Radio Show Hour 1 – 2026/08/08

[00:00:01] You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool. The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program. And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.

[00:00:31] You know, if there has been one name that has been a constant in political commentary over the course of the last decade, it is, of course, Donald Trump, and for obvious and good reasons. But tonight we're going to take a little bit different approach to the Trump question. Welcome to the program tonight, ladies and gentlemen. I'm your host, James Edwards, along with Keith Alexander. It's Saturday evening, August the 8th, brutally hot, sweat going to the car in the parking lot.

[00:00:59] We parked tonight, came into the door here at the studio, sweating just from that little walk. But this, too, shall pass, as will the Trumpian era. We are going to be looking at the post-Trump right tonight. And helping us do that is a guy that, as I say, we just can't keep him off the air this year. Because when we want coverage and commentary and insight and opinion and analysis on questions like this,

[00:01:23] who better truly than Lou Moore, our dear good friend, fast friend the last two or three years, the former congressional chief of staff for Jack Metcalf, as you know, Ron Paul's presidential campaign manager. He knows D.C. He knows Republican politics. And he's back with us right now. Lou, great to have you again. How are you, my friend? Just fine, James. Thank you. Well, let's get right to it. You and I were both.

[00:01:51] Now, Keith and I covered it last week, but I want to revisit it briefly, and then we'll use this as a springboard into adjacent topics. But this whole bombshell report from Politico that you and I were eyeballing last week, we were texting about it even in advance of last week's show, claiming that Groypers, these are young men who are associated with white identitarianism, most closely associated with certainly Nick Fuentes,

[00:02:18] have essentially taken over as GOP staffers and congressional aides in Washington. A couple of questions I would have for you about that, a man who would know this if any of our guests would. Is it true? Could it possibly be true? Yeah, well, James, taking over might be a little bit strong in terms of description, but there is a huge number of staffers on Capitol Hill, in all the think tanks,

[00:02:48] in the college Republican chapters around the country, who are definitely at least facing in that direction, open to that kind of thinking, not friendly to Israel, very aware of the demographic decline that is the end of our people if we don't do something about it. And so, you know, there's a conglomeration of folks. They don't all have, they don't have one ideology. They don't have one frame of reference,

[00:03:18] although Nick Fuentes is certainly probably the biggest name associated with this phenomena. But there's a lot of them. And I mean, they're there. There's no doubt about it. There are presence and there are growing presence. Because as you know, when you're looking at these reports, again, I want to go to a guy who knows, and that's you. And because I'm looking at this, and certainly it wouldn't be beyond the left or the writers at Politico

[00:03:45] to embellish or exaggerate the threat that exists. And it wouldn't be even beyond some of our fellow travelers to accept this, even though it may not be true because it makes them look good. So what we want now is just the facts. And again, a takeover, not a total takeover, but I think, you know, we heard everything from Rod Dreher's handicapping it at 30 to 40 percent. Politico, I think, was up to 50 percent of the aides and staffers. Now, that's what we're focusing on right now. We will talk about young Republican clubs.

[00:04:14] We will talk about some other things that are going on in the grassroots, the base of the next generation of, I guess, Republicans is what they're calling themselves. But so we will take this as fact that certainly over the last 10 years, you have more aides and staffers on Capitol Hill who are adjacent to our views in some ways than you would have had before. So, Lou, you've been there. You've been there as a chief of staff for sitting Republican congressman. How much does it matter?

[00:04:44] How much effect does an aide or a staffer have on policy or on the decisions a congressman or woman makes? Well, James, I don't know if you've heard this phrase before. It came out of the Franklin Delano Roosevelt administration, the New Deal, and that is very simple. Personnel is policy. Take it to the bank. Ah, very good. It is absolutely critical.

[00:05:09] I can remember a piece that Rexford Tugwell wrote, who was the first agriculture secretary for FDR, and he's talking about going down the row of all these secretaries. He's asking where they're from and all this. It's because they're getting rid of all of them. I mean, they were just utterly ruthless, the Roosevelt administration, was at getting rid of staff that weren't with them.

[00:05:34] And that's only increased and become a more exaggerated fact today. But no, no, this is absolutely significant. No doubt about it. Well, so, Lou, I am surprised, but quite pleasantly so, to hear you, a man of your expertise on this very question, say that.

[00:05:56] Because so you're saying that the aides and the staffers are, what would you say, on par, perhaps have more influence than lobbyists or other forces of influence that would try to persuade a congressman? I know we're not going to say they're the ultimate force. We know what that is. But, I mean, these people have more influence than the average person would expect, you're saying. Oh, 100 percent. Yeah, I'm not saying they have – it's not really the right way to look at it, I think, James, to say,

[00:06:24] do they have more influence than lobbyists or whatever? Or do they, like in a congressional office, do they have more influence than the congressman? I mean, obviously the congressman decides what he's going to vote on, but who's putting the information under his nose and who is helping to direct traffic as to who the congressman sees and which lobbyists he sees and which staffers are letting which lobbyists, you know,

[00:06:48] buy them drinks on Friday night and just fill their ears full of crap so then they start influencing the congressman. The whole thing kind of works together, and it's not cut and dry hard and fast. But trust me, the staff is very significant. Well, the $64,000 question is how is this going to affect the Jewish question? You know, the Democrats have at least half of their contingent that's anti-Jewish.

[00:07:17] And, of course, what the Republicans are going to try to do is assure the Israelis and the Jewish people that they're totally on board. But do you think you're going to see an erosion of Jewish power and influence within the Republican Party? You're already seeing it, Keith. And, I mean, to answer your question, these young staffers are emblematic of a larger problem that organized jewelry has

[00:07:46] and that the Zionist lobby or the lobby, as they call it, has. And that is they are losing the youth of America left and right, and they dang well know it. And that's why they've gotten so aggressive, in my opinion, in the last couple of years, both in trying to influence presidential policy, foreign policy, the war,

[00:08:06] but also why they are pushing these hate laws, you know, ending free speech, this law in Florida and when they passed in South Dakota, and then these other areas because they're trying to clamp down, clamp down on the free speech, maximize the influence they have with the president. Having a bill right now sitting in, I think it's in the Senate, that would essentially merge the industrial bases, the military-industrial bases of the United States and Israel,

[00:08:35] another bill that would bring Israel into the Five Eyes, and essentially we would be sharing almost all of our intelligence with them. They're pushing this stuff hard because they know the time is coming down the road, maybe not very far, where they will not have enough influence to do these kind of things and to operate the way they have operated for the last 40 years,

[00:08:58] where they could slaughter a bunch of our servicemen on a ship and nobody even knows about it or denies that it happened, you know, in the case of the USS Liberty. You know, the impunity that they have operated with for all these years is coming to an end. They know it. That's really something. Yeah, what's Netanyahu going to do if that thing passes? Is he basically going to get a Christmas list and say,

[00:09:24] I want these weapons and we're just going to, without blinking, provide it for them? I, quite frankly, don't know how this thing would operate, but it's, you know, the last thing we need is more influence by Jewish power and influence. Oh, Keith, they're going to have a 10 more influence. Excuse me, I didn't mean to interrupt you, Keith,

[00:09:44] but Netanyahu has bragged in Hebrew on Israeli TV that he wrote essentially the bill that they're considering, or the segment of the bill, Section 224, I think it is in the Defense Act, that is one of the two pieces here that we're talking about. And he sent some note to the chairman of that committee in the House, basically also saying that, as well as thanking him.

[00:10:13] So, I mean, they got everything to do with this happening, and they're planning on having a guarantee of a ton of leverage and influence over our military affairs, our foreign policy through these two moves with the intelligence community, and then with all of the industrial military technology on the other piece.

[00:10:37] We had talked about, I think, going back to late last year or last summer when you had Operation Midnight. I can't remember what it was actually called. Brad Griffin always calls it Operation Midnight Boomer. Cover your ears, Keith, but Midnight Hammer. But it felt as though, it felt to me at least, that Netanyahu and the State of Israel had to put his card to the table now. Some of the latest additions to Antelope Hill's varied catalog

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[00:12:48] Under my administration, we will always defend the very first right in the Declaration of Independence, and that is the right to life. All right. Well, so when we have Lou on, we have so much fun. We can entirely disregard breaks. We don't even care about that. We'll just talk over them, through them.

[00:13:18] It doesn't even matter to us. But I don't know exactly what happened there, but our producer came in my ear and said, don't you know your own break? No, we didn't. So I don't know exactly what you, the listening audience, last heard before we went into that break, but I think what we were saying, what I was saying was it seemed as though going back to Operation Midnight Boomer, as Brad Griffin calls it last summer, the first bombing of Iran, that... I call it Midnight Fundamentalist.

[00:13:46] Yeah, because the fundamentalists are really running the government. But anyway, what I was saying was it looked as though Netanyahu and the State of Israel were putting all the chips on the table for an all-in move because they don't think that the future is projecting very well for them right now because of what's going on with the youth, as Keith mentioned and as Lou also mentioned, on both the left and the right. But what we're focusing on right now is the post-Trump right. What we established in the first segment was, according to Lou's expert opinion,

[00:14:16] as a man who's worked on Capitol Hill at the very highest levels of power, that it does matter who these GOP congressmen are staffing their office with. And now let's talk about... I want to move quickly on a couple of issues. We've got so much more we want to cover as we examine the post-Trump right and what it's going to look like because, I mean, we are now 10 years into Trump and he's going to be entering in his twilight now. Whatever happens and he's probably going to lose the Congress in November, we'll see. But it's going to be the last two years.

[00:14:45] Yeah, we just don't know whether it's going to be a fade out or a blackout. So we'll see. But we're going to... We're beginning to look towards that eventuality and prepare for it. Lou, you wanted to talk about what was called the crack-up of the Heritage Foundation and what that means in terms of the post-Trump. It probably means they've run out of money. What's going on there, Lou? Well, I don't know if they've run out of money.

[00:15:08] They've still got donors that are not happy with a lot of the youth that are being produced out of the Heritage Foundation. Heritage Foundation was part of the staffer conveyor belt. In other words, you know, there are certain places in D.C. where you tend to, if you're a conservative, if you're a Republican, where you get staff or where staff maybe goes.

[00:15:32] The other way around is they're climbing up the ladder and getting more involved with creating policy papers and things like that. And so Heritage has been very much kind of a Bush, neocon type of outfit going way back. But that has changed more recently, and it has everything to do with these staffers that are coming in, these young staffers.

[00:15:59] It actually was also true with the Leadership Institute, which, you know, we have a good friend that was a trainer at the Leadership Institute, and there was a bunch of bright young men there around 2007. This is an outfit that was cranking out nothing but kind of pro-Bush, standard corporate Republicans. And suddenly there was a whole infestation of students for Ron Paul at the Leadership Institute,

[00:16:25] and that was really the nexus of that group, which turned into, I mean, we had chapters, James, on 500 campuses by the end of Ron's campaign. I take no credit for it. There's a young man by the name of Jeff Frazee actually organized it, and this one just proliferated. It just exploded. And I think that was a little bit of a precursor, as many aspects of Dr. Paul's campaign was in 2008, his campaigns then in 2012,

[00:16:54] of this further development into more of a robust nationalism that we saw, you know, with Donald Trump and continue to see the progression as we see the Gripers and a lot of these other folks on the scene now. You know, Lou, you are foreshadowing something I want to close this hour with, and that is, well, we're going to talk a little bit more about the threat of Tucker Carlson's third party

[00:17:20] and his 10-point manifesto and what is the best way to actually solidify and get in as concrete policy a lot of the things that Donald Trump campaigned on that we all loved but that he wasn't. And how much of a threat is Tucker going to be? Well, it's like he's Minnesota Knives personified. Well, I don't want to get to that yet. I want to work up to that, but we will get to that, Keith. But let me ask you this. So we're talking about the Heritage Foundation, and you mentioned the Heritage Foundation to

[00:17:49] Halls of Congress, conveyor belt of staffers and aides. Let's talk about also what's going on. You mentioned also some of the Ron Paul clubs that were, you know, 500 strong. And let's talk about the Young Republican clubs. Now, the term Young Republican club will probably ring a bell with some of our listeners because of the controversy involving the New York Young Republican club,

[00:18:15] which, if you go to their website, is, as they say, the oldest and largest Young Republican club in the country. And they've basically been cast, for reasons either real or imagined, as sort of a white nationalist group, even though they are the New York Young Republican club. What is the New York Young Republican club, and what are Republican clubs writ large? What's an accurate characterization of their political position?

[00:18:43] Well, just to answer the question about these clubs, there is a whole network of clubs that are in kind of a quasi-sponsorship relationship with the GOP, with the RNC. There's the Young Republicans, and then there's the College Republicans, which is yet another group, which also has many members right now, including like their political director,

[00:19:07] who are pretty far to the right and at least pretty adjacent to the views we hold on many of these key issues. And with both of these clubs, the YRs, as they call them, and the CRs, this phenomenon has been kind of bubbling up, emerging all over the country. And that's definitely a piece of it. And these clubs, you know, they're local and whatnot, but kids can plug in on their campus.

[00:19:36] It's another way they can get to D.C. if that's their goal, whether in the think tank world or on Capitol Hill and in all the adjacent interest groups and whatnot that are there, the whole constellation of conservative ink, which is kind of a derogatory term that's been used by a lot of our people. But more and more, our people are infiltrating these organizations.

[00:20:03] And getting back to Heritage, I kind of wandered off that for a second. No, no, no. We'll tie it all in. Go back. It wasn't just the bubbling up of young, fresh-faced, 20-year-old kids that furtively listened to Nick Fuentes at night on Rumble or whatever, but the chairman there, Kevin Roberts, he comes from the Texas Policy Institute, which in itself was becoming more and more radical in Texas. And I'm not accusing Mr. Roberts of being a griper,

[00:20:32] but he was defending Tucker Carlson, having Nick Fuentes on his show. And that's what kind of caused the – that's the direct cause of this crackup that that article that you and I talked about, James, was covering. And, of course, the donors, the donors, many of them are from organized jury or corporate America. You know, they were apoplectic. But, you know, Roberts has to pay attention to the donors,

[00:21:01] but he has to also pay attention to his own staff and to the pool of young people he wants to bring into his staff and then turn around and push out into the White House and to other federal agencies and into some of these other organizations. So there's just a whole lot of issues, these more global issues, running through this controversy that's been going on at the Heritage Foundation. Okay. So all of this is happening at once.

[00:21:29] It's overlapping what you have going on with the congressional staff offices, what you have going on with, you know, obviously mainstream conservative groups like the Heritage Foundation breaking bad and going to the right, and then these young Republican clubs. The New York Young Republican Club, mired in controversy. I mean, they've had – Peter Brimelow is a guest of honor. Not that Peter Brimelow – I mean, Peter Brimelow is a great friend of mine.

[00:21:56] He's a very dear good friend of mine, as Lou is, as Keith is. We're on the Christmas card list. He's one of my closest friends in this thing. But, I mean, it just goes – but, of course, he's cast as, you know, verboten. But he was there as a guest of honor, and you see it across the country now. And you mentioned Texas, Lou. You mentioned Texas. Texas has a particularly vibrant circuit of young Republican clubs. And Texas is – and that's no secret.

[00:22:26] Texas – I was giving speech – my Ameren speech at American Renaissance back in 2023. It was in the late summer of 2023, right before, you know, the campaign proper of 2024, Trump and Harris, or Biden and Harris. And Texas was something that I had been talking about in speeches for about a year up to that point. I remember talking about this at my countercurrent speech in 2022.

[00:22:53] The platform of the Republican Party of Texas, the state platform of the GOP of Texas, reads like – I mean, our mission statement here at TPC, I mean, to give you an idea. I mean, for instance, some of the things – I'm just going off memory now because I haven't looked back on it since Trump got reelected. But there are things in that platform such as, you know, repealing the Civil Rights Act.

[00:23:20] I mean, there's some very hardcore points in that thing that would have come straight out of the mouths of anybody you would hear on the show on any given night. And that is codified in the platform of the Republican Party of Texas, which is the – what? I guess the biggest Republican state in the country, that and Florida. So that's no small thing. Now, that is just a state party platform, but it is Texas. It's not like the Republican Party of Massachusetts,

[00:23:48] which exists to be beaten by the Democrats every year like the Washington Generals and the Harlem Globetrotters. So, you know, what is the effect of these young Republican clubs or the college Republican clubs? We were talking about the effect that these staffers and aides may have over a congressman. What is the effect of these clubs? Do they influence the state party in the state in which they're located, or what is their purpose? Yeah, no. They – I mean, the stronger they get, the larger they get.

[00:24:17] I mean, they're a pool of volunteers. You know, when all the campaigns I ran, I always wanted to check in with the local college Republicans, young Republicans, to recruit staffers. I mean, there's just a number. I hear the music. Yeah, we do hear it this time. There's just a number of things. Yeah. Well, we're going to pick up there. I mean, they're very important. We're going to talk about their importance when we come back and what it all means. You know, what does it mean to have all of these clubs breaking our way and aides breaking our way? What can we do with that?

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[00:30:39] We've been talking about the utility of having like-minded, right-minded people in congressional offices. And what's going on with the Heritage Foundation. A few more quick words on the young Republican clubs because as you say, I mean, Lou, you were saying you would check in on these things. That these are important. Young Republican clubs, college Republican clubs, if you will. They are two separate things. But, and again, from your position on the Ron Paul campaign, and let's make no mistake about it,

[00:31:09] as you write in your book, Forerunner, this was a campaign of consequence. Unlike, you know, the campaigns of also-rans like Rick Santorum or Carly Fiorina or, you know, name your candidate. It was Pat Buchanan, it was Ron Paul, it was Donald Trump. And we can debate forever, and history will probably do so, on the pros and cons of Trump. But, Lou made a stop

[00:31:39] on that train, and it was in 2008. So, the young Republican clubs, Lou, just finish your thoughts on why this matters. Why it matters that they are breaking our way, that they are being built with an ideology that matches ours or being, in fact, taken over by people who would think somewhat like us. Yeah, well, I just want to get right down to something practical here along those lines, James.

[00:32:07] James Fishback in Florida. This guy was a 1%, 2% looking guy. He's in it now for the governorship of Florida, and it has everything to do with these young Republican clubs, and not just young Republican clubs, but the youth. The youth is the fuel of his movement and his campaign for governor in Florida, and whether he wins or not, he is scaring the living daylights

[00:32:37] out of the establishment pick who is sweating bullets right now to see if he gets across the finish line for the GOP nomination there. And, you know, James, I'm looking at the Mass Deportation Coalition right now, which is a D.C. outfit. And, you know, first of all, we weren't even allowed to use the word, the term mass deportation 25 years ago. I mean, not in Washington, D.C.,

[00:33:06] not among anybody that was supposed to be so-called legitimate. But not only do we use that terminology now, we have candidates like our current president who promised that he would provide mass deportation if that hasn't happened. But this coalition is lobbying for it. Almost half their coalition partners are these groups, College Republicans of Florida. I mean, you go on and on here with the youth groups, the Utah College Republicans,

[00:33:36] some young Republican groups, some young women's Republican groups, the young conservatives of Texas. It just goes on and on. And so the spine that is still in the MAGA movement that is in the conservative Republican movement, it's being fueled heavily by these organized youth. It's just a fact. Reminds me of that. Wasn't there a James Bond movie, Never Say Never Again? Never, wait. No, no,

[00:34:06] no. What was it? Well, anyway, that's what it reminds me of. That saying reminds me of what's happening. You know, for example, mass deportation, that was taboo to say. And now, and people would say, well, that's a nice idea, but it'll never happen. Well, things that were never supposed to happen are happening. That's the thing, Keith. Exactly, Lou. Trump made these winning issues, and perhaps only Trump could have made them winning issues, and for that he deserves acknowledgement.

[00:34:36] Now, the question is, how can we take all of these good things? the blueprint that Trump left us, with the rhetoric that are winning issues, even if he failed to deliver or was subverted somewhere along the way for reasons unknown, how do we take the, hey, and listen, if I gotta say, you know, I'm in my mid-40s now, beyond middle aged, I guess, and all of my friends are older than me,

[00:35:05] but if I could choose for any group of people to share our beliefs, it would be, you know, certainly the generation that's gonna come to power in the future, the teens, the late teens, the early 20s, and that's really what's going on here. How do we get all of this to come together with the obstacles that we face to codify, to solidify, to put into policy the things that Trump was

[00:35:35] running on? How do these young people in the clubs, in the offices, et cetera, how do they take this and harness it into actual power and outcomes? Well, they help recruit candidates, so they recruit candidates, they get out in the precincts for the right kind of candidates, they scare the hell out of the candidates we don't want by various means, and it's just part of the, I mean, as long as we're in this system and this political

[00:36:05] process, which some days I wonder how much longer we will be in it, but as long as we're in this process, this is what you want. You want to radicalize and give the young people the tools to do something about it, and they're doing something about it. See, I agree with 100% is, we've got to look at it from all angles, metapolitical, practical politics,

[00:36:34] getting involved in the parties and the existing system, also building our own institutions and media. We have to apply pressure at every fissure, and we have to, all, advancing on all fronts, but I mean, also, as you say, while the system is still in play, you're a fool not to engage in the Republican politics. Yeah, lead, follow, or get out of the way. Now, the Republicans, certainly, the GOP system itself, the establishment, certainly has

[00:37:04] well-developed antibodies. I mean, I couldn't believe it, actually. I mean, certainly, we saw Thomas Massey, and we talked about that with you this year, and Marjorie Taylor Greene jettisoned, but Steve King, you know, before that, and others who were totally our people. I was shocked to see Andy Ogles lose, actually, this week, and so the GOP system and its establishment, whores, do have a great immune system to this sort of change

[00:37:34] we're hoping for, do you think it can be overcome? Yes, but at what point and at what price? I mean, I'm not sure about that. Well, the Fishback thing is a good example, though. At least Fishback is not Byron Donald. My God. But the thing is, James, we have to get our people more organized. Whether we're going to boat our way out of these problems

[00:38:03] or not, the more organized we are at every age group and at every level, the better. And there's no group, as you were just alluding to, that I would rather be organizing than the youth. I mean, they're the future and they're our only hope. How did actually, you know, I mean, you know, of course, with the Groypers, I mean, Fuentes has had an focus on this thing. I don't even know how he did it. I mean, was it originally

[00:38:33] video games? He spoke at a conference that organized in 2019 or 20. And, I mean, what happened there is it's certainly remarkable. But, you know, how does, what was the question? I got sidetracked thinking about Nick and all that. But, what were we talking about? What was the topic? What would the... Well, as far as his influence, seriously, James, I think it's just

[00:39:02] opening up a vision for a lot of these young people. I think he does a very good job doing that. And, you know, I like a lot of the things he tells these youth. Like, if you have a college Republican chapter and you walk in the room and you have our beliefs and 19 of the people there and everyone else there doesn't have your beliefs, shut your mouth and just join and just start climbing the ladder in that group and as you recruit more people in,

[00:39:32] they do. I mean, he provides a lot of smart tactics. He does. He does. We use it over and over. Yeah. We use it over and over, James. Go ahead. Well, I was just going to ask, how did the youth arrive at this terminus, though? I mean, you know, Fuentes himself didn't bend the will of the entire generation. Well, it's like both the Democratic youth and the Republican youth have both gained a pair of cojones and decided we don't need

[00:40:02] to count out the Jewish power and influence anymore. Well, for entirely different reasons they did, but I mean, how did the, what I'm concerned about, the right-wing youth, how did they arrive at the intersection of racial reality and concern of the lobby, as you put it? I mean, how did that happen? I think it has everything to do with the free flow of information and the internet and then the so-called, I hate this term because it's used so much, but the

[00:40:31] opening of the Overton window, which just has everything to do with Donald Trump and then the current issue, we call it an issue set politically, but the issues facing this youth, they can't afford to live. Economy, exactly. 100,000, exactly. That's it. It's all of that. Lou nailed it. There's nothing else. It's what he just said. It's that plus the inability to

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[00:43:44] As the sun begins to set on another summer, the party will continue here every weekend on TPC. We're in the second week of August now and everybody's back to school here in Memphis. I mean, back in my day, we didn't go back until Labor Day. And my niece actually in another part of Tennessee went back at the end of July. I mean, they're barely giving the... They can't even give them two months off before they have to get back to the indoctrination. But as we get into late summer,

[00:44:12] the dog days of summer, Indian summer, we're still here for you and we've got some great programming like we have tonight with Lou Moore. And Lou, yeah, I mean, you nailed it why the youth, I think, is where they are. The cost of living, they feel like they don't want to buy into the system. They can't. Well, they've been moved out of the system and replaced by non-whites. That's quite frankly the whole situation in a nutshell.

[00:44:41] And they are implied enough to recognize it. They are. They are that. And let's give a quick shout out to our newest affiliate, AM1470 WBCR in Maryville, Tennessee. That is on the other side of the state near Knoxville. I want to give a big shout out to Harry, the program director there, Harry the Lineheart for bringing us on to the family of programs there at WBCR in Maryville.

[00:45:11] And they're getting Lou Moore. You know, we really, actually, we've been on this station for two weeks, three weeks now. We really wanted to put our best foot forward. That's why we called you tonight. So thank you for coming in and making us look good. I'll try not to screw up here. Okay. Well, let's talk about this. This goes back to something we were talking about is we're talking about all the things that are going on with the youth and how it could benefit us going forward and how even it could play well through traditional

[00:45:40] party politics even as people like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey, Andy Ogles, Steve King, before them have been jettisoned. There's still hope in entryism with the Republican Party. I know a lot of people don't believe that, but let's give these kids a chance. It's going to take a little more time for them to develop. And what other play do we have right now? I mean, yes, let's move forward on all fronts, but this is one we should be tending to as well.

[00:46:10] But Tucker Carlson and, well, the people I just mentioned, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Joe Kent, Thomas Massey, and others sort of, you know, debating starting a third party. Now, when you were last on with us, a couple of weeks ago, you were talking about, hey, pollsters that you trust and know to be major players and on top of the game say that this is a very serious thing. There's some serious numbers behind this.

[00:46:39] But then Tucker came out this week with his 10-point manifesto. And I'm just going to read it. I mean, this is it. These are the 10 adjectives that are the purpose and driving force behind this movement he's trying to create. And I like Tucker, but this party is going to stand for, well, these are their principles. It's weighty. Fair, sovereign, productive, beautiful, healthy, honest, optimistic, wise,

[00:47:09] decent, united. I mean, I don't know. I add feckless to that. Well, I mean, you know, I don't, I'm not going to say that, but I'm just going to say, I don't know what that means. I mean, I don't think that's what we need. I mean, what we need is a revolution. What we need is mass deportations. What we need is confrontation. What we need is we need somebody that'll kick ass and take names. So, I mean, what do you, what do you make of all of this? Well, I mean, a couple of things, James. I mean, one, they're embarking and we don't still know if they're going to actually

[00:47:39] go to a third party, if they're going to try to make a big move on the establishment of the Republican Party. It's kind of leaning more, it seems to me, by what's happening that they're going to go third party. But they got a real structural problem because you've just got too many entrenched Republicans that are not going to vote for a third party. And, and of course, you still have a titular leader of the party who claims he's the populist. He's the big change

[00:48:09] you want to have. He's the guy that's going to do all these things, even though he hasn't been doing them. And so you're going to, there's a lot of those votes are not going to be gettable for this new group. So where are they going to get votes? Well, they're going to have to get some votes out of the Democrat stack. And so that's a real problem. I mean, when Perot was running, that was not nearly as much of a problem. When George Wallace was running, goodness knows that wasn't a problem. But in

[00:48:38] 2026, to get a bunch of Democrats to vote for this kind of enterprise is a problem. I mean, I don't, you know, so they've got a big structural problem if they're really going to have success. And I don't know if that's why we got so much of this language, but I'll tell you one thing. When he talked about immigration, it was straight up libertarianism across the board, which is great. I want to cut all the government money and every government program

[00:49:08] and every aid possible away from and don't give illegal aliens access to these things. But that's not going to be enough. That is not going to be enough. I want to hear somebody say that ship is sailed. Libertarianism is sailed. We need to perp walk every employer who knowingly hires an illegal alien. That's how we're going to get mass deportation. I mean, there needs to be a realistic conversation

[00:49:37] about that that really hasn't been had yet. It needs to be had and then it needs to happen. But I don't, what Tucker was talking was, you know, a way to try to avoid a big confrontation on an issue at the same time trying to address that issue. So to me, that was a big, big disappointment. And I just wasn't hard enough. It wasn't hard enough. I mean, we need a revolution. We don't need, I don't want unity with these other people.

[00:50:07] I don't want any of this stuff. I want cutthroat. I want ruthless. I want Vlad the Impaler. I want, uh, we've tried to be on that doesn't work. Hey, listen, I got to tell you folks, uh, the hour of decision. If you go to Liberty news, radio.com, Lou Moore is also a brother and fellow, uh, host of a program on this network. Liberty news, radio.com. Go to the, uh, family of programming here and, uh, that Sam Bushman makes available to you and you'll find the hour of decision.

[00:50:36] That's Lou's show. And he, uh, just yesterday, in fact, uh, posted, uh, uh, episode, uh, documenting third party fever. Is it the right move? And this is the description is the hubbub around the picture of a Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Green, Joe Kent, and Thomas Massey. It prompted Lou to go over the history of the two party system as well as some history about major and minor third parties. Lou then, uh, pivoted in this podcast. It's an hour long.

[00:51:11] America first base he had built into an electoral majority and the prospects of, and problems with building a third party around, uh, many of the principles Trump ran on. And if you want just straight commentary, no breaks, pure expert opinion and analysis, uh, that's what you're going to find at Lou's hour of decision available on demand at Liberty news radio dot com. Uh, but yeah, I mean the pitfalls of building a third party, Hey,

[00:51:41] we gave it a good shot with Pat and, uh, you know, there's not going to be anybody more compelling than Pat. The Republican party has a lot of problems, but I'm willing to give the youth a little bit more time to simmer. I mean, what else can we do? That's my opinion. Lou, you're the political pro though. What do you think? Well, I mean, I, I just, I, as I was just saying structurally, I just don't see how they go about this in a way where there's going to be success in the near future. And as you mentioned, James,

[00:52:11] your last show, we don't have a lot of time. You know, we, if we get swamped with another big wave of 25 million illegal aliens, I mean, it's over. It's going to take a different solution at that point. It's going to take a different solution, but we can still do it. We're basically that we're running on that. All we, all we need to do is let the camel's nose in the tent one more time, let the Democrats get in and we will have an irretrievable situation. that's the thing I hate to say about the Republicans is, I mean, you know,

[00:52:41] you can say what you want to about establishment, GOP ism. Let them get the trifecta and see how much, see, see, see where you stand and let, let the left get what Trump has had twice and squandered in a lot of ways. I'm not saying we're not better off now than we were 10 years ago. We are. A lot of that is credit to Trump, whether he meant to or not. We've said that so many times, but let the left get a trifecta and see what you want and see what you're better off as. I've got one question for Lou.

[00:53:11] Why is Thune and why are some establishment Republicans fighting the SAVE Act? What are they trying to avoid? And does it bear examination in the light of day? One minute to go, Lou. Yeah, I mean, I don't know exactly what Leader Thune's motivation is, but he's not our friend. He's not Trump's friend. He won't even let Trump have recess appointments because they've technically never recessed the

[00:53:40] Senate since Thune's been in there. And, you know, I think it just goes along with the big business love of all of our illegals that are in the country right now. And, you know, past that, I can't say. I mean, it's the most commonsensical legislation out there, and yet you've got people opposing it that are supposed to be Republicans or not pushing it hard enough. And, of course, a lot of this also has to do with the filibuster. And they don't want to get rid of the filibuster, which the Democrats will get rid of as

[00:54:09] soon as they take power next time. Exactly. They play to win, and I've got to give them some credit for that. I admire them in a way for that. They're far more ruthless and cutthroat than we are, and we should be that. We need to learn that lesson. I haven't learned it yet in the Trumpian era. Maybe the next wave, if the kids can ever get control, they'll do it. Hey, a big shout out to Justin, who is listening in downtown Memphis tonight. He writes, I love listening to Lou Moore on the political cesspool. You're not the only one,

[00:54:39] buddy boy, but thank you for tuning in. Lou, thank you. We'll be back with the second hour next. This is as good as it gets. Lou Moore, we'll be right back. Thanks, guys.