Jason Bartlett, a South African farmer who has come to live in the United States, returns to TPC after being invited by the Trump administration to a private meeting at the White House earlier this week. Bartlett, who walked across America to raise awareness about the farm murders in South Africa, will share with our audience an exclusive report about what transpired during his visit to Washington.
[00:00:01] You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool. The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program. And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
[00:00:32] Welcome to tonight's live broadcast of TPC, everybody. Summer is here for sure. The weather of summer, as we know it here in the American South, has finally hit. And it is Saturday evening, June the 13th. James Edwards, along with Keith Alexander, as things heat up outside and inside the studio alike. We have had a very busy calendar year. So busy, it has gone by so fast. It's already half over, basically, this week.
[00:01:01] And coming out of March Around the World and Confederate History Month, it has just been jam-packed. And tonight is no different. Next week will be no different. And it doesn't appear to be letting up any time as I look at the schedule a few weeks out from here. But first, let's welcome back to the show Keith Alexander, who was out last week. And, Keith, we missed you. It was a good show last week. We had Nick Scanlon on from the U.K. A lot of action going on there.
[00:01:31] Sasha Rossmuller talking about his new book. And then in the second hour, Mark Weber. Always great to have him on. And Leonardo Gianni making her debut appearance on TPC in the third hour. So not a wasted moment. But it's great to have you back tonight, and we'll preview tonight's show in just a second. Say hello. Great to be here again. Everybody needs a little bit of time off. But I tell you what, it's always good to sit back and listen to it. I tell you what, that female comedian was really a hit.
[00:01:59] I think she was – everybody was great, but she is someone I wasn't familiar with. And she really, you know, I think was impressive. Well, I mean, we tried to bring in new voices and new personalities from time to time and form these relationships, what we've been doing here for very nearly a quarter of a century. And tonight, old friends and newer ones alike will align.
[00:02:25] I don't know, Keith, if there is one of our regulars that has changed his opinion on Trump as much as Brad Griffin has over the course of the last year. And he put up a post at Occidental Dissent a week or two ago, a few days ago,
[00:02:49] that made mention of the fact that he had spoken at our Will to Power conference, which was, of course, last year. It wrapped up on June the 1st, so it was very nearly a year ago. He was kind of instrumental in putting it all together. Absolutely. When he comes on with us in the second hour, we'll actually retrace those steps and how it went from an idea in January to a very hastily put together conference,
[00:03:15] but hasty only in the sense that we put it together very quickly. I don't think I've ever planned a better conference. And anyway, it came together fast, but it came together very well. We had a lot of help with it. And Brad was part of that. But going into that conference, the enthusiasm being propelled by the things that Trump had done up to that point was really palpable.
[00:03:44] And here we are now exactly, almost to the day, a year later, and exactly to the day of the bombing of Iran when the war started last year. It was on June the 13th. And so we'll be getting Brad's take on that, but his opinion on Trump, we'll let him tell you. He has reevaluated Trump, I think we could say. We'll talk to Brad in the second hour.
[00:04:08] In the third hour, you and I are going to have some time unto ourselves to talk about the Carmelo Anthony verdict. We're going to be talking about Thomas Massey raising awareness about the USS Liberty from the House floor and some other interesting news headlines and trends. That'll be in the third hour, but that's still coming up. First hour, though, coming up right after this first break as we just set the table here, this first segment, we're going to have back with us Jason Bartlett.
[00:04:36] Now, he's been on the show a couple of times. We did a feature with him in the American Free Press last year. Jason is a South African farmer who has come to live in the United States. And much more than that, he made a big name for himself. I believe it was back in 2020 when he walked across America, walked across America to the White House to raise awareness about the murders of the white South African farmers. If I'm not mistaken, he met with one of Trump's sons back then.
[00:05:05] And since then, he has become really, I think, probably the most identifiable South African national living in the United States who is talking about these issues. He has just become a huge sensation on social media, especially TikTok. And Jason will be back with us tonight. But why? Well, there's never a bad reason to talk about this issue. But Jason just left the White House as a guest of the Trump administration.
[00:05:31] And we're going to find out what he was doing there and how he received such an invitation and how he thinks the meeting went and perhaps even who exactly he met with in the Trump administration. So Rich Hamblin, our friend, put that together. And Rich will be on with us as well. Rich, you hear his wife, Janice, every time we have a ladies ensemble. But Rich is very clued in to the issue in South Africa and is, in fact, broadcasted live from South Africa a couple of times with us, even though he's a fellow Tennessean, Keith.
[00:06:01] Yeah, that is one of the issues that Trump is really good on. It seems to get lost in the shuffle nowadays. Everybody is just focused on Iran. But, you know, a lot of things have happened for the betterment of white people. And, of course, we're white advocates. So that's first and foremost in our minds under the Trump administration that never happened in any other administration during my lifetime. And I'm no spring chicken. So, you know, we need to keep all that in mind.
[00:06:30] We would never under any other president that we've had had a total revamping of the refugee program so that it gave priority to white South Africans emigrating to America. Do you think just name a president? Do you think that, you know, George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, you know, Obama, Joe Biden?
[00:07:00] None of those would ever have done that. Well, I think this is what's going to make the second hour conversation with our friend Brad very interesting, is that everything that Brad says about Trump is true. And I can understand why people have soured on him and some more than others. But I think there is also a case to be made. And, again, when you're making this case, it doesn't come out of some misguided sense of loyalty or devotion to Trump. I don't have that. I do have that for our people.
[00:07:27] And has he, as a tool, been able to be something that has been utilized to advance our interest, whether he had that by design or by happenstance? Has that occurred during the Trumpian era? So we're going to go all the way back to 2015 with Brad and just quickly race through the last three terms and see where we land. But I think there will be a little something for everybody in that conversation.
[00:07:50] Before we go a moment further, I want to make mention of the fact that we are now halfway through our second quarter fundraising drive. I want to give a big-time shout-out to Carol in East Tennessee for helping lead the way so far. And we've got a lot of work still to be done. We are up for renewal as a program four times a year, as it were, and we can't miss once. But I do appreciate all of the people. There's another Carol really big with Carol.
[00:08:19] There's another Carol up in Illinois who has supported us. But Carol in East Tennessee has just been a huge, huge blessing to the program over, well, really a long, long time, really for more years than I can remember. But she has been a massive help the last several months. And we need it. And so we thank her and we thank everyone who has contributed so far. And we thank everyone who still will before the end of the month because we want to be here come Fourth of July. So we need a strong second quarter.
[00:08:51] But, yes, so that's pretty much what's coming up tonight. Do you want to give – I was going to say, do you want to give a quick hit on Carmelo? We're going to save Carmelo. We're going to really sink our teeth into that in the third hour. But we'll talk about it a little bit later this hour after Jason comes on. But it's great to be able to welcome people like this one. I mean, Leonardo Gianni last week, first-time guest, as you mentioned. But it's had a lot of success in the arts and comedy.
[00:09:16] And then you get somebody like Jason Bartlett, who's just an activist, who has really helped raise awareness as much as anybody in the world on the issue of South Africans leaving the White House, coming on TPC tonight. And I think he's got some pretty big interviews lined up for next week as well. But every night that we're here, it's always something that we think is thoughtful and something that we want people to listen to.
[00:09:41] And by the way, I see Keith has his latest issue of the American Free Press on the desk here at the studio. This one features our Q&A with Roger Devlin for the paper. Got a nice one with Lou Moore that's going to tie in well with what we're going to be talking about with Brad Griffin in the second hour, basically asking Lou to assess Trump in 2026 in the administration. And it was very balanced, very balanced.
[00:10:05] What I love about Lou is he agrees with us 100 percent on the issues, but he also knows how Washington works. He is a political professional. He's savvy. He's savvy in the issues that he makes his living at, which is managing campaigns. And he needs to know what will float, what will – he knows what you can run up the flagpole and people will salute, as I used to say in the old days.
[00:10:30] Well, it's great to have people that have worked at the highest levels of power, worked in Washington, D.C. I mean, he worked on, as we said before the show tonight, I mean, I think, you know, certainly one of the two most influential campaigns of the last 40 years prior to Trump. And that was the Buchanan and the Ron Paul campaign, which Lou Moore didn't just work on. He was the national campaign manager. So it's great to have him on and his insights. We've got to take a break. We're just getting started.
[00:10:57] We're going to go to Jason Bartlett and find out what was going on at the White House. Hey, friends, it's James. Did you know that every issue of the American Free Press now features my own published Q&A interviews with one of your favorite guests from the radio program? That's right. The American Free Press has officially partnered with TPC to expand our audience into the realm of print media. I encourage you to read it for yourself by subscribing today at AmericanFreePress.net.
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[00:13:10] We are working to connect with Jason Bartlett, our featured guest of this first hour. We do have a dual interview format for the next two segments. Rich Hamblin is with us. And now, by the way, Jason is as well. As I just mentioned before the last break, Jason has risen to pretty extreme prominence on this issue and certainly probably more so than anyone else on this continent who was born in South Africa.
[00:13:40] He's walked across America to raise awareness of the foreign murders there, and he's going to be sharing with our audience right now a report about what transpired during his recent visit to Washington this week. Jason, welcome back. We've got you for 30 minutes, and I don't want to waste a second. It's good to have you back this evening. James, great to hear your voice again. It's been quite a while. I've been silent, but it looks like my voice has been amplified, and I've got to do my work again. So I don't mind speaking the truth any time.
[00:14:09] Well, you were with us, of course, back during your famous walk around the world, walk across America, and that was some years ago. And then you were back with us last year when Trump had that very interesting meeting with Ramaphosa and the White House and over the asylum and all that ordeal back last spring. But this is a year later. What are you on for tonight?
[00:14:35] Very interesting that you would get an invitation, an official invitation to the White House. This is Keith, too. Tell us who you talked with in the Trump administration. Tell us what you can. Let's put it that way. Go ahead, Jason. Yes, let's put it that way just for their safety. These people also have children, and I will be honest, my walk combined with everything over the last few years has led to way less death threats than I've ever got.
[00:15:02] The last two days since I've been back in Alabama has been atrocious. Man, I obviously have done something right. All I can say about the White House is I've spoken to several people in the Trump administration, and we're truly hoping for a massive difference because, you know, I don't stand with AFRI Forum. I don't stand with any type of people.
[00:15:32] I'm solely a single person who talks the truth. Although I do like AFRI Forum and I like what they stand for, I don't belong to any entity. And I was personally invited to the White House, and I've just spent five days up in Washington. And what transpired is not something that I could have ever imagined myself because it's clearly it's God's work because I couldn't make it up.
[00:15:59] The people I spoke to, while I spoke to them, after 30 minutes, they stopped the conversation and said, would you please wait for five minutes while we invite more people to hear your story? And I just simply told them my story. I told them about the South Africans stuck in limbo, and I also, you know, that are in the refugee program that's actually being sabotaged by many people. And I'm very happy that the Trump administration listened to me because,
[00:16:26] although I thought I had an empty message, it turns out my message needed to be heard because they did not know that this was happening. I also spoke about the refugees that are current or the asylum seekers like myself that are in America that have been denied asylum by Democratic judges that are completely going against the will of the American people, as well as President Donald Trump.
[00:16:52] They are overriding what he is, executive order states, and much, much more. So it was more than a successful journey, and I humbled myself to just say I told the truth, and I told the raw, hard truth. When you sit there with the Trump administration and you just tell them, hey, I'm a farm boy, I came here with a tie, I do not belong in this tie, and I loosened my tie, and so did everybody else. And we just spoke for a little bit over three hours. Wow.
[00:17:22] Let me ask you this, if I could. Basically, is it true that you have received a more receptive audience in the Trump administration than you and other people who are advocates for the white people of South Africa have received under any other U.S. presidential regime? 100%, sir. I will be very honest.
[00:17:47] When I sat with the Trump administration, they treated me like I was the important person to talk to. And they also stated that the Afrikaner are extremely close to President Donald Trump's heart, as well as that it is a priority to reform the immigration system and fix it
[00:18:11] so that people like myself, as well as pilots, doctors, and other people that are actually educated and suffering real persecution get invited and welcomed to South Africa, not the Somalians and the degenerates of Africa and the rest of the world that are leeching off the wonderful nature, kind nature of the Americans.
[00:18:37] When it comes to our coverage of South Africa, I shudder to imagine what that would look like over the last many years on this radio program had it not been for the impact of Rich Hamblin, who has joined us to help co-host this interview with you, Jason, this hour. And Rich first put us in touch with Simon Roche, and through that introduction,
[00:19:04] we have had countless interviews and have met with Simon in person at many different events, and he's spoken at one of our conferences and other collaborations as well. And then he also more recently put us in touch with you. And I say more recently, even that goes back to six years ago. But there is nothing that has happened as a result of our coverage on South Africa on this program that Rich has not had his hands in, up to and including he and his wife broadcasting live from South Africa a couple of times. So when Rich got in touch with me to tell me about what you were up to, I said,
[00:19:33] well, we can't have Jason on to talk about it unless you're on as well, Rich. And with that having been said, thank you again for all you've done on this issue and want to have you and Jason be on the air together. You're certainly very well familiar with his trip to Washington and probably have some insights and questions that Keith and I don't. Well, you're too kind, James. I've gotten to know Jason. He stayed in my house. I helped him on his trip to D.C.
[00:20:01] We've been down to his place in Alabama and met his little girl. And he's the kind of immigrant this country needs. And I think the word needs to get out, and apparently it is now. And, you know, I'm humbled just to play a small part in that. Jason's a fine Christian man.
[00:20:24] And, you know, like I tell everybody I meet, South Africans or white South Africans are closer to Southerners than any people anywhere. In fact, they're more Southern than a lot of Southerners, if you know what I mean. So I'm proud to be here. Let me ask you this, Jason. Did you go up there by yourself? Were you the only one that they met with or were you with a group? So I'll tell you a funny story.
[00:20:53] Every single person I know and that knows me and has physically phoned me or done business with me or contacted me has been approached by left, woke, mind virus, pathetic people. And they are trying to spread hate and misinformation about me, telling my boss that I'm impersonating other people. I'm trying to open accounts and bank accounts with other people's names.
[00:21:22] And all this. And they got hold of my boss. And they, I'm talking, they bombarded him. And he looked at me and he's like, dude, this is crazy. What on earth is happening? I own a business and you are under attack. And let me tell you one thing. I'm going to drive you up to the White House. And he drove me all the way up to D.C. just to take me to the Trump administration. So it was me and me alone. However, man, my boss was absolutely awesome.
[00:21:52] He paid for everything with an open heart. And he just said the amount of evil that is and hatred from the Americans towards their own country. He had to drive me up there because he saw an immigrant and knows an immigrant. He's known me for more than five years. And he realized this guy loves the country more than many of the own Americans. And I was proud to say, yes, sir, let's go do this. Let me say this in response to what you just said, Jason.
[00:22:20] You said that you had some Democratic judges that are trying to undo what Trump is wanting to do, which is to bring over Africaners and other white South Africans to America. You need to tell your people to avoid blue states and get in red states so that they will not have the local district judge as an enemy. I'm sure Jason's aware of that. That is important. Yeah, that's not as easy as can be because you've only got a certain amount.
[00:22:49] Like Alabama is a red state, but it's got no immigration court. So you get sent to Atlanta. And Atlanta is basically Africa. Well, you need to tell the Trump administration that's what they need to do is have immigration courts in places like Alabama as well as metropolitan areas. You know, when I sat in front of the Trump administration and I looked them in the eye and I said, you know, I come here with no agenda and I'm not asking for any handouts.
[00:23:19] I'm just asking for honesty and realness. And I said to them, can I be real with you? And they said, yes, please. I think they took it with such an open heart because they saw that I have zero agenda. I'm not standing for any group and I don't want any handouts. I've been very successful in this country. I pay a heck of a lot of tax proudly. And they said to me, I said to them, can I please take out my phone and show you the thousands and thousands of messages I've got?
[00:23:49] I didn't know I had. I only recently found my message requests. And luckily I found them because there was over 5,000 messages from South Africans all around Mexico as well as Canada and America that are pleading asylum. And I discovered 22 of them that have been denied this year. And fortunately, each and every one of those people were so honest that they gave me the judge's name.
[00:24:18] And I wrote those 22 judges' names down. And I gave it straight to the Trump administration and said, here we go. These are the people going against your president's very orders and not doing what the state is meant to be doing. Jason doing God's work on this issue. Jason Bartlett, our guest, Rich Hamblin with him. And they will be with us in the next segment as well. We'll be sure to get all of Jason's contact information.
[00:24:43] I think more than anyone else on this continent, he is doing the job on this issue. Stay tuned. Exposing corruption. Informing citizens. Pursuing liberty. You're listening to Liberty News Radio. News this hour from Town Hall. I'm Mary Rose. There are reports that an agreement to end the war in Iran appears to be close. Correspondent Luke Garrett reports from London.
[00:25:11] Pakistan's prime minister said on Saturday that a deal is closer than ever before and is expected to be signed in the next 24 hours. Pakistan is preparing for an electronic signing of the agreement, followed by technical level talks next week. Part of the deal includes provisions for Iran's nuclear program. Iran's foreign minister has said that terms of the dealing with the program would be finalized in the 60 days after the initial agreement is signed. Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen says the Trump administration
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[00:30:08] Very thankful for Jason Bartlett giving us his time tonight. Fresh off a visit from the White House. He is very much in demand at the moment and making a stop here on a Saturday night. I want to thank also Rich Hamblin for helping to facilitate that. Jason, born in South Africa, came here a few years ago to live in the United States. He is in Alabama working as a farmer, among other things.
[00:30:35] I mean, South African farmers will do what they do wherever they are, and he is recreating that for him and his family down in northern Alabama. But, Jason, you know, I remember your first time on this program, and I just want to be clear. You are not some astroturfed phenomenon that had, you know, corporate or elite funding behind him. You came here and very much as a man on a mission in an organic and grassroots way,
[00:31:04] self-funded your walk across America to raise these issues. And I can remember having you on back then, and we were plugging your fundraiser. Rich, I know you contributed to it, and he stayed at your house even during all of that. And so this is a very organic thing that has broken through to the highest levels. I would ask you the question, but it's pretty much, I guess, understood that it has to be surreal
[00:31:31] that you went from that to being invited to the White House to basically give a briefing to members of the Trump administration. It went so well that they extended your time to three hours and brought in more people. So the question is this. What was the purpose of your meeting? What were you invited there to share with them, and what were the goals that you had that you might want them to take action on? Perfect question. I'll just start first and foremost. I'm still living proof that the American dream is real.
[00:32:01] I came here with less than $1,000 in my pocket with my now wife, and I was earning, I think, $12 an hour, and I now earn six figures. I own a house. I have a beautiful 150-acre farm, and I work two jobs. I work my buttocks off, but I'm living proof that the dream is still alive. And the reason I went to the White House is I was personally invited by someone, and when I sat in front of the Trump administration,
[00:32:30] I thought I was going to tell them everything they knew. And then I opened up the doors, and they looked at me, and they were absolutely stunned when I told them that there are several South Africans caught in limbo in South Africa, as well as people like myself caught in limbo. Now, we'll talk about the people in South Africa that are caught in limbo. There are farmers that I know personally. This is not a hearsay. This is someone that I actually spoke to for hours today about it. That's in a horrible position all of a sudden.
[00:32:59] I can say they're very big African gray farmers, and they were approved very first for their safety to get out of South Africa. And they went through all the medicals, the whole refugee program, and their tickets were even bought. So they sold the farm, they sold their cars, they sold their houses and everything, and then their tickets were canceled, and they're still sitting there now more than a year later. And I told the White House this, and they were absolutely shocked,
[00:33:28] and I said, excuse me, gents, but this makes the administration look stupid. And like I say, I was raw. I used these words. And I know President Trump is a prideful man, and I know when these words get to his ears, things are going to change. And what I did bring up, I kind of insulted the person, but as I told them, I was like, hey, I'm going to be raw and real. I said whoever created the program to be that you bring over farmers
[00:33:58] and you disperse them to places like Ohio and Chicago and all these parasitic-filled places, you are not only destroying the community, you are ripping it apart. You're even ripping the nuclear family apart, as well as the strength of community. What the South in America and the South African farmers have, the white South African farmers have in common, is the strength of community. So what I brought up, which I thought was foolish,
[00:34:27] but they literally clapped hands at my idea. There's a place called the Scheme in the Foul Hearts in South Africa where I believe it was the First World War where they broke up for the British, they broke up about 50,000, 60,000 acres into 20,000, 30-acre farm lots and gave it to these British soldiers to reestablish themselves. So I brought that up to them. I said, you should be bringing over families, 10, 20, 50 families,
[00:34:56] and resettling them in these little ghost towns in Texas or these little towns in Arkansas or these little towns in Alabama, basically anywhere in the South where people have a common sense. And you should let them open up Afrikaans schools and Afrikaans churches so that they can assimilate with Americans and speak English, learn English, but also preserve their language because the Afrikaans language is part of the genocide. They're trying to kill the genocide itself.
[00:35:26] They're trying to kill the language in this genocide, not only the people. They're trying to destroy the history, as Richard will know he's been there. So I came up with an actual farm. I call it my farming initiative, which takes these Afrikaners and puts them in a community where they are going to absolutely thrive. And I thought this was maybe just a foolish idea. And they looked at me and they said they never thought of this. So if I have achieved one thing, I believe that is one of the most key things I have achieved.
[00:35:56] And on that note, there are South Africans like myself who are sitting in limbo, who have, we are now asylees, not refugees, but we're sitting here for almost a decade, many of us, and we're getting denied asylum, yet the refugees are being brought over from South Africa. So there's a complete, there's no nice word to, no nice word to put it, but it's a confusing situation that looks very,
[00:36:24] very unprofessional. So I have laid this on the table, not with a hearsay, but with a bunch of facts, as well as my personal testimony, which is always the most moving. And when that Trump administration clapped hands for my idea, I got very, very inspired. I think they're going to make a difference. And they asked me two questions. And this, this just shows me that we are, we are under the right administration at the moment. They asked me, obviously,
[00:36:54] please, you know, keep our personal names quiet because for our safety. And I was like, okay, what's the second one? They said, we just ask that you and your fellow churches and your fellow people pray for us, because we are under relentless attack for helping you. Rich, do you want to take it from there? Well, we have a couple of more minutes and we want to be sure to give Jason the opportunity to plug his contact information before he flies. And then we're going to wrap this up in the next segment before the end of the hour. Yeah.
[00:37:23] Tell us what kind of, what kind of, um, what kind of flack you've been getting lately. I know you've, you've, you've, you've got quite a presence on Tik TOK and you're still doing YouTube, I think. Uh, and I see you on X. I mean, uh, is it, it's really intense, isn't it? I mean, it's, tell me about it. Richard, these people don't want to dislike me. They want me dead. And they want people who look like me dead. And I'm on a radio. So I'll tell you very, very straightforward.
[00:37:53] I'm a white Christian male and they want me dead. I mean, you've literally got people with three, 400 likes when they say, Oh, people like you shouldn't be alive. And then you get three, 400 likes from Americans. They, and it's these democratic Americans, these leftists, they want us dead. They don't want to hurt us. They want to eradicate us and get rid of us. Well, is there a way to, not, let me just add,
[00:38:21] is there a way that you can make sure that everything is going through red States? Didn't they seem receptive to that idea? Or was that even brought up? No, nothing is going through any States. They go, they're sending people to agencies. And for example, they sent my personal, one of my personal family members for safety. I'm not going to say who they, they phoned us and said, would we look after them and take them to all the interviews? When they get there, we said, yes, the next day they, we phoned them back to get details.
[00:38:51] And they say to us, no, we're sending them to Chicago. I mean, what the living hell do we want to do? All right, rich. That's a great question. Well, Jason, we're going to bring rich back in, but Jason, I want to be sure to give you the opportunity to plug your contact information. If people are hip to this issue, if they're interested in it, as so many people are who tune in, we want them to be able to contact and follow you and where this goes from here. Well, just be careful. I'm very,
[00:39:19] very honest and very truthful as my good friend, Richard will know. And you James, my Twitter handle is predominantly what I post on because you just get deleted off everything else. And it is Jason, then the number two and then Bartlett, like the pair. So Jason to Bartlett on X. And you'll see, I make videos every day. Some of them are silly, but they've always very, very factual and true. Well, we appreciate that. Rich, you want to say anything else to Jason before he flies this,
[00:39:49] this segment? And then of course, as I mentioned, you'll be back with us after the break. Well, tell us what kind of plans you got for your future. I know we've, we've bought some lamb from you and, and, and how's that going? Oh, Richard, it is absolutely awesome. We just sent our first cow in for processing. So we'll be getting our animals, meat back soon. And we probably going into beef.
[00:40:13] And I just had a investor from the place where I work that came to my farm who wants to buy 20 to 50 cattle for me, as well as I'm going to be doubling my sheep. So soon, my website is almost going to be up and running where you can click a button and you can have lamb and beef anywhere around the United States. It is grass fed and grain, not grain finished, but ethically finished and wonderful quality lamb. I know you've bought some too, but yes, at the click of a button soon,
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[00:43:07] You know, Rich knows Jason Bartlett much better than we do, but we know him well enough to say that this is a very busy time of year for a farmer. And we appreciate him coming on tonight and regaling us with that story. And I said we would do as best as we could to get it verbatim, Rich, but Jason said something during the break before we let him go
[00:43:35] that might have been a show stealer this hour. Can you recite that? Yeah, he was meeting with them, and he pulled out a picture of his little daughter, and she's cute as a bug, let me tell you. And we went down to visit him. And he said all he wants to do is raise beef and lamb for the American public, and raise a white family in a safe, white country.
[00:44:04] Now, not all of the U.S. is safe, but where he is is pretty damn good. And he is the absolute salt of the earth. And I'll tell you, he's typical of most of the South Africans I've met while I was over there, the farmers. They are the greatest people in the world. They're self-reliant, and they're hardworking. He only left out one thing, and that was he said he wanted to go to a white Christian culture. Yeah, that's right. He said white and Christian.
[00:44:33] Well, I think the one thing that was left out was they said, according to his testimony there during the break, the members of the Trump administration said, I can't think of anything more America first than that. Yeah, they said, if I did America first, what is? So, I mean, I think he's got a very good reception with him, and I hope it pays off for him. He's certainly put in the hard work. Well, again, Rich, I mean, and you were a catalyst in that. I mean, you were a cog in the engine.
[00:45:02] You were one of the people who played a role in this journey. And what I think is important as we work here on the radio is to view each of us and all of us as a collective. And our tentacles, you know, reach different places. And in your case and in Jason's case, you brought him to us and hopefully through us to a wider audience. But he has just really exploded by entirely his own efforts.
[00:45:32] Again, I just want to reemphasize the fact of what he shared with us earlier. You know, he came over to the United States with his then-girlfriend. And, Rich, there was a distinction that you had drawn between the people who came here last year. I think they were designated as refugees. His official designation is a little bit different than that because he came prior to this police administration. Yeah, he's an asylum seeker. And he's being slow-walked through the system. I mean, he's here on a work permit pretty much.
[00:46:02] He doesn't have any other legal standing. I mean, he's subject to deportation. In fact, he made that point to him and asked him for assistance on his case. And he's trying to get his family members over here too because he said it would look pretty bad if I'm meeting up here with you all and then all of a sudden I get deported by some judge, some immigration judge. In Atlanta. Yeah, in Atlanta or whatever, Birmingham, whatever the closest district is for him.
[00:46:32] So, yeah, he's different. He's not part of the 17,000 that have been authorized to be granted citizenship or cars as soon as they get here. He's had to fight his way tooth and claw to get where he is.
[00:46:48] And he deserves citizenship more than most of the, I'd say probably 100% of the non-white refugees who have been let into this country in the last five years. Just don't apply in Minnesota. Well, you know, he's coming over here and he's farming. I mean, he's providing a public service to all Americans. He's raising grass-fed lamb and beef.
[00:47:16] And, again, it's just, again, you can take the South African out of South Africa. You can take the farmer out of South Africa, but you're not going to take, you know, he's going to come here and do exactly what he was doing there. And he's just so wholesome. He's just such a great guy. And, again, he came over here with nothing. With his then-girlfriend, you know, making $12 an hour, as he said. And then now, not only has he been able to carve for himself a good living in this country, he's got a daughter now. He's got a family here. He's got a house.
[00:47:46] He's making a good living. But he has been able to also simultaneously raise awareness on this issue that is so important to the extent that very few, if any, others have been able to do. I mean, I'm looking at his Twitter handle right now. It's, you know, nearly 100,000 followers. He's even bigger on TikTok. I mean, how does that happen? That's just an amazing thing. That's a miracle. He's just, you know, he's just a hell of a nice guy. And he's, you know, very personal, as you well know, well-spoken. And he impresses people.
[00:48:16] He impresses people. He's a good Christian man, and he's sincere about it. You know, I can't say enough good things about him. Well, we've got to be able to find out, I think, some way that we can get, you know, the mechanism, the governmental mechanism, streamline so that these people can get in before Trump is out of office. Okay. It's got to be done.
[00:48:39] Well, is there anything else, Rich, that we haven't covered that you want to be sure to make mention of to the audience about this issue before we transition? Well, it's, you know, it's, from what I'm hearing, you know, and I'm sort of plugged in. I haven't been there in six months. But it's grim in South Africa. Really grim. I mean, water shortages, electricity outages.
[00:49:05] There's going to be food shortages because of the, you know, because of this idiotic war with Iran and the closure of the Persian Gulf. It's, South Africa is heavily dependent on fertilizers and stuff and chemicals for the farming, and as well as petroleum, petroleum products. So they don't have any, really, when you get down to it.
[00:49:29] So there's a lot of deserving people that want to get out of there, and they'll be as productive as Jason has been. And he's just a, you know, he's a beacon for anybody that's got questions about, you know, the utility of the South African farmers. I mean, he's a good guy. You know, he's managing two golf courses. He's got a farm, 150 acres. I've been down there.
[00:49:59] I mean, he's got four or five horses on there and a bunch of sheep and a bunch of cattle. And he's, you know, he's making his way. He's trying to get his brother over here and some other family members to work with him. And he needs all the encouragement that we can give him. And, you know, people need to, when he gets his website up, get on it and buy some of his lamb and buy some of his beef. It's good. Let me ask you this, Rich. You would know this about as much as anybody who is American.
[00:50:27] What percentage of the Afrikaners and white South Africans want to come to America? 50 percent? Well, there's a 75 percent? Well, I don't know. No, no, no. Not that many. Not anywhere. I mean, there's just not that many people want to pull up roots and leave. But there's a wait list for the program. I know that. And the bad thing about the program is, like Jason said, there's people that have been accepted, you know, had their ticket punched and all this kind of stuff. And at the last minute, they've been held up.
[00:50:58] I mean, it's a real sad situation. And there's so many people. Is it the South African government or the U.S. No, no, the U.S. government. The U.S. government. The people that are running this program for the State Department are a bunch of, well, what's a polite way to say it? No, they're a bunch of DEI hires. I mean, he, for instance, his wife's mother is trying to get over here. And she had applied for the program.
[00:51:27] And they called Chris up to get some kind of message or whatever. And they had some Nigerian who could barely speak English that made the call that was working for the State Department. And I think Jason made that point clear to the guys of the Trump administration. And they were clearly not aware of it. And, I mean, you know, it's just absurd stuff like that. The U.S. government is dysfunctional in case you haven't noticed.
[00:51:57] Well, that's why Northern Virginia has changed Virginia from a red state to a blue state because of all those federal governmental employees. Keith, it's in Nashville. It's in Birmingham. It's in Huntsville. It's in Memphis. It's everywhere. Well, it's probably not in Stuttgart, Arkansas, or Fairhope, Alabama. That's the type of places where we need to have that big city. Any place you've got federal employees, you're going to run into that.
[00:52:27] I know. We're coming into the end of the hour. But I've got to say two things, Rich. Again, thank you, number one. That's number one. And number two, you just mentioned six months ago, and it triggered the memory. Our very first show of the year, the first Saturday of 2026, you were live with your wife, Janice, and Simon Roche, live from South Africa. That very first broadcast of this calendar year.
[00:52:54] So here we are now six months later, and your friend and mine, Jason Bartlett, ours, is meeting in the White House with the Trump administration. Big deal. But, yes, when he gets that website up where people from outside of the local area where he is, where his farm is, can buy his meat and support his family. I mean, everybody's got to eat, right? So let's do what we can to raise awareness of that. Final word to you, Rich. We wanted to talk about Carmelo Anthony this hour. We'll get into it. But final word to you on this.
[00:53:24] This was just a big topic. It was good to have it be a singular. Yeah, I'm glad to give Jason all the time he deserves. As far as Carmelo goes, there's a lot of stuff you can watch online about this case. And not so much the case. I mean, it's a clear case of premeditated murder. He didn't even testify in his own defense. And his family is going around saying, you know, he was railroaded and all this kind of stuff.
[00:53:51] And if you watch Black Twitter and Black X and TikTok, I mean, it's unbelievable. Mark Dice has put together some videos that point this stuff out. And they're really, I mean, it's absolutely amazing. And about the only person, Black person I've heard speak sanely about this is, well, a couple of people. Myron Gaines is pretty level-headed and Jason Whitlock. But otherwise, these people, I mean, it's ridiculous.
[00:54:17] I mean, Blacks are going out and posting videos of themselves urinating on the kid's grave. And I mean, it's just, you know, and I saw Jeff's interview with Jeff on Megan and Kelly. And he's been getting death threats. And, I mean, all kinds of just horrible stuff. We're going to cover it more in the third hour. But that was a great way to set the tape. My God, in 30 seconds, you said about it all. We're going to talk more about that in the third hour. Brad Griffith up next.
[00:54:46] He's going to talk about Trump. Great. Stay tuned. Thank you. Thank you, Rich. Thank you, Jason. Thank you, James.