Radio Show Hour 1 – 2025/07/05

[00:00:01] You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool. The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program. And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.

[00:00:31] Happy Independence Day weekend, ladies and gentlemen. We are live with you tonight, this Saturday. July the 5th, and had a great 4th of July yesterday at my house, my wife and kids, my parents, her family, extended family, food, music, fireworks. We did it all as families are wont to do this time of year. We normally have an Independence Day spectacular here on the program.

[00:00:59] We're still going to touch on some of those things, but we're not going to do the usual show because everything has been pushed back as a result of the foreign policy situation over the course of the last month. It's just pushed back our programming, but we do have a great show for you tonight, nonetheless, and it begins right now with Lou Moore. Every time we introduce Lou Moore, we remind you that he was Ron Paul's presidential campaign manager, congressional chief of staff for six years in Washington.

[00:01:24] But Lou is a lot more than that, as you'll find out at loumoore.com, where you can get his podcast, our decision, get the book if you don't have it already. Be sure to check it all out. Lou, it is great to have you back on this holiday weekend. Great to be here, James. I want to read something to you to set the table for our first topic of conversation.

[00:01:51] It's a letter that came from an attendee at the conference that you spoke at, our Will to Power conference, just about a month ago. Here's what it reads. A listener and an attendee from New Hampshire writes, Dear James, thanks for another great conference in Carolina del Sur, as Bill, Jose, and I would say at the Hispanic table. Great speakers, food, and fellowship, as expected. I'm not sure if I'm glad the Iran issue came to a head just afterwards. It would have made for some interesting conversations

[00:02:19] and the hottest, freshest take from our best thinkers, but it would have cast a pall over what I felt was an otherwise festive occasion. I am hopeful that this largely blows over and the new Trump presidency continues to deliver. I was highly dubious about the prospects of punished Trump, but I was happy to be proven wrong so far. Another debacle in the Middle East as Trump morphs into W, the would-be vindication I wouldn't welcome. If that happens, I guess I'll sit with Rich Hamblin and Warren Bailog at their table next conference.

[00:02:48] I'm not wedded to the Trump cult of personality, as so many normies are, and will leave him behind like flotsam and jetsam if it comes to it. I was quite ready to leave mainstream politics for the alternative community option in 2014, and still am today. But I enjoy your conferences, partly for the chance to network with people who are ready to build parallel societies, which is in the end where we need to go anyway. Thank you for you and all your crew does for us. So that is the question, Lou. Lou, that is the question. So now here we are.

[00:03:18] Where do you stand on Trump taking the big picture? We're trying desperately to move off of this topic, but we need to talk to you about it before we can do that. Yeah, well, I think, James, what happened over the last month just shows that Trump does not have enough leverage over the Israel lobby. Now, I'm aware that some of your listeners see more nefarious things going on as far as Trump and Israel and all that, but this was a total derailment,

[00:03:48] just like you're talking about. It is a derailment for our conversations, our planning, our analysis of things. I think it's a tremendous derailment of MAGA, and I do not think he wanted that. But he was trying to get this bill through Congress, and as your old boss, Pat Buchanan, said more than once, Capitol Hill is Israeli-occupied territory, and that hasn't really changed. So I think it was just a leverage situation

[00:04:17] where he just didn't have enough leverage to stop them, at least initially, but they tried to suck him into a war, not just hitting these nuclear facilities, and so far he seems to be resisting that. I mean, reports I heard, he literally told Netanyahu to turn around 200 aircrafts that were heading straight for Iran as Netanyahu was planning to bomb the living hell out of them

[00:04:45] as they were trying to start this ceasefire. So, I mean, every day is a new day in this world. We seem to wake up into a new world every day here, but I'm still, I mean, I am still solidly with Trump at this hour of history, at this time, at this time for our movement. I think he is far more positive than not, but it was not his finest hour when he bombed those facilities, and it was certainly a horrid thing

[00:05:15] that we may not be out of yet to think that the Israel lobby still has this much leverage and that we came within an inch, at least so far, of being sucked right into a war in the Mideast, which we do not need under any circumstances. I'm tossing this to Keith right now, Lou, but I just want to chime in very quickly to say that I agree with your assessment. Every word of it I echo. Keith? Well, I see it very much the same, but just a little bit different.

[00:05:45] I think that Trump really doesn't want to be the tool of Bibi Netanyahu and the Israelis, and that he basically worked up a strategy. He said, you're complaining about a nuclear threat? Well, I'm going to take care of the nuclear threat. So he bombed what was basically an empty facility by then because the Israelis have been bombing the bejeebers out of it for about a week. Or 10 days before. And then he declares

[00:06:14] this most effective and efficient bombing mission ever made in the history of mankind. And, you know, all of these people like Philip Giraldi and whatnot that are trying to put down or cast shade on Trump for that. Paul Craig Roberts said it best. Don't do that. Let him claim victory. Do like they said back in Vietnam. I forget who said this to LBJ. He said, let's declare victory and get the hell out. Well, this is something, Keith,

[00:06:44] you bring up a good point. Lou, I would say your opinion on this is just as good as anyone else's, but that would be untrue. Your opinion on this is going to be much more informed because you're one of the people that we have the privilege of being able to talk to that knows a little bit more about how the system truly works because I know you always say, well, I don't ever want to be associated with the system, but you have been in Washington. You have played power politics. You've worked with congressional members of Congress. And so you do know more. The coverage we've tried to present

[00:07:12] on this program the last month, we've tried to bring in the best of the best of the people. You know how the swamp creatures think. Well, this is my question to you then, Lou, is, I mean, 12 days and you can't hardly say that Israel could declare any realistic victory. How do you make sense of the confusion that it seems like everybody's declaring victory, but nobody really won anything? Yeah, well, of course, everybody tries to declare victory in politics if they're not blaming somebody else

[00:07:41] for whatever isn't a victory. But, you know, I mean, they're saying, oh, we've got to go back in because maybe we didn't get all of the nukes. We've got to go back in to protect our troops at these outposts that we have all over hell out there. And, you know, they're manufacturing these things, but I think Trump pretty effectively shut that down for now, for now. And, I mean, we shall see, but, It's pretty ominous, though, isn't it, that he's going to have

[00:08:10] this big hoop-de-raw in Washington that Netanyahu's coming over to see his sycophants like Johnson and whatnot, you know, mowing and scraping. Well, we hold our breath for what will take place the first couple of days of next week, but, well, any, any, any, what's your guess? Any guesses on that? Well, first of all, it's terrible optics to even have him over here, in my opinion. But, again, it's a leverage

[00:08:40] situation. You know, we can't keep this guy, but this guy's been inviting himself in. How many times has he been over here now since Trump was in office? And I've been told that he was not invited every time he's been over here. And, anyway, he thinks he's the real president of the United States. Well, I think, well, continue on. I want you to flesh out that thought and then I'll give you my two cents. Yeah, I mean, I don't think that. I don't think that. But he just, it's a leverage situation. He just has, he still has a lot

[00:09:10] of leverage. He's going to go see the Congress. And, again, Trump has been in a heated, very complicated negotiation, which he came out on top. I don't know if the American people came out on top. But he came out on top of this big, beautiful bill. But he's dealing with people who, the Israelis seem to have a ton of leverage over. And that, you know, we're still electing, this goes back to some of my earlier episodes, James, on my show. We're still

[00:09:39] electing members of Congress the way we always have, which is special interest money is buying these races. Money talks and BS walks. Everything except money is BS. Yeah, you know, at the presidential level, we've got this aberration with Trump, but certainly at the congressional level, it's the same old deal. And we just, he does not have that many friends on Capitol Hill. I can tell you that for a fact. That's actually one of the things that I had considered being a layman compared to

[00:10:08] you when it� comes to working in Washington professionally. And that is that I understand there are people on our side who take the position, well, if we can't get everything from Trump, we'd rather have just had Kamala. And they want Trump to say we're cutting off all aid to Israel. Now that's somewhat, hold on a minute, that's somewhat, you know, he could probably get away with that more so than, as unrealistic as that is, you can cut off funding to every other

[00:10:38] nation, but more so than saying, you know, listen, I'm going to tell you the truth about who really controls America and why I'm hamstrung. You know, he's not going to do that because if he did do that, if he did do that, as you just mentioned, Lou, I mean, he would get that really would get him impeached because he is the president now in 2025. He's not the president in 2045 when I think the power of this particular

[00:11:08] lobby will have waned much more so. You do that right now, you know, Congress will impeach you for that. And so I look at our side, our side even more so, James, MAGA fundamentalist will go berserk. Well, anyway, but I look at our side. Our side did have a hand in electing Trump. You look at when they said he lost in 2020. We won't quibble, but three to five percent of the white base that voted for him in 2016 set out.

[00:11:37] He reengaged enough of that number in 2024 compared with a historically weak candidate in Kamala Harris. And he's back in. So, yes, we were an important part of that. But you're the president of the United States. You have a lot of people that have helped you and a lot of people that want things from you. Yes, including the Jewish lobby, the Israeli lobby, AIPAC, and Adelson, Miriam Adelson, Sheldon Adelson, all of the people like that. So he is pulled in different directions. We have to be honest

[00:12:06] about that. And we have to look at this thing as a whole. Are we better off, still to this day, even with a few minutes ago. Yeah, and I do. But James, this is where you're a glass-half-full kind of guy. I've known you well enough now to know that. And this is the long line of things, as I call it.

[00:12:36] Even Netanyahu has said, aid to Israel will be coming to an end. I mean, we can see the end of it. The youth of America have had it with these endless wars. Israel is totally in the tank with those numbers. Rich Barris, who is a friend of mine, a pollster that's in Trump world, he just did a poll. He said, we would have lost Michigan, we would have lost three states if this attack would have happened before. When people understand Trump causing this attack,

[00:13:06] he wouldn't have won the election in these key states. politics is changing as far as more people getting involved, which allows more races to be funded outside of the Beltway. So many things are going our direction, and all of those things going our direction are not going in the Israel lobby's direction. We're just not there yet. Well, the one thing that we do need to keep in mind is

[00:13:35] the Wolfowitz Doctrine and the Clean Break Memorandum. This is the last piece of the puzzle. You know, that was landed, they landed that particular aircraft carrier on us back in 95, and they've gone through every Muslim nation that they had on their hit list except for Iran, and he wants to finish that up. I think basically the whole Clean Break Memorandum has been a

[00:14:05] failure because they didn't replace anti-Israeli leaders with pro-Israeli leaders. If anything, they got even more anti-Israeli people coming in, but we have got to, you know, this is a last gasp chance for Netanyahu. The walls are closing in on him. They're starting the prosecution on him, as far as I know, in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv.

[00:14:34] This is his last chance to get it done, and he's going to give it his best shot when he comes to D.C. He would certainly, in that lobby, would certainly like a certain outcome. And Lou, I think I agree with what you're saying here, is that Trump threaded the needle in such a way that he appeared to satisfy as many people as he could with this action. I mean, it was really a tight-roping thing. I don't think a previous American administration, a neocon administration, a Bush administration, would have

[00:15:04] pulled back after 12 days. But let's talk to you more about this. What we're doing right now, folks, is we're talking to the great Lou Moore. He's offering his thoughts on the Middle East, and the latter half of this hour, we're going to refocus our attention finally on some more positive news. We're going to talk about alligator Alcatraz. We're going to talk about the big, beautiful bill, Lou's take on that. But I've got to direct you, I have to direct you to loumoore.com. Click over on Hour of Decision. Insightful, prescient analysis from Lou.

[00:15:34] So we had the episode, episode 82, staring into the jaws of hell. Lou talks about that nothing in this conflict can be looked at effectively without considering the situation in Ukraine and the South China Sea. I want to get your take on that, Lou, and then also in your most recent new upload at Hour of Decision. Loumoore.com, you can find it. It is, well, you look at the history of Israel and the Zionist movement as it relates to American presidents and

[00:16:04] foreign policy in the light of intertwined roles of the U.S. and the Jewish state in the last few weeks. So, again, let's talk about anything pertaining to this issue that you feel the need to convey to our audience before we move on. Well, I mean, as far, you know, I've been telling my audience that there are four existential, a word I really have grown to hate, but four existential crises that I'm counting on Trump dealing with because we can't. I mean,

[00:16:33] we can do a lot on the ground and we need to do a lot on the ground even right now, but these are four that he has to deal with and that is the border, our civil liberties, the dollar and our economy, but the fourth one is three potential World War III flashpoints, the Mideast, Ukraine, and China. And the only one where if you talk about kinetic conflict, the only one that's really in our national interest, and we don't want to get in a kinetic

[00:17:03] conflict in any of them, but the only one in our national interest is the China issue with Taiwan because Taiwan produces 60% of our microchips that we use in this country right now and the trade lanes coming out of Korea and Japan and China and Taiwan, Vietnam, et cetera, et cetera. Unfortunately, that's still the lifeline of our economy, which is a terrible thing. But anyway, so we need to be paying a lot of attention to that area. China has

[00:17:33] been ramping up confrontations on the high seas with all kinds of countries, but meanwhile, because of the Mideast, we've moved two battle groups out of there, two whole battle groups, not just a few ships. This is like, what is that, 60 warships? And one of them was going to be decommissioned, but we moved it out into the Mideast and the other one, and then we moved another battle group in there. So we're actually down. They have larger battle groups. They have two aircraft

[00:18:03] carriers with full battle groups around them, the Chinese do, in this hot spot in the South China Sea, and we only have one. I don't know what that means to some people, but to me it's like, what the hell is going on here? That's our priority. And this is for the Mideast, which is our lowest priority, but we've got a big problem with Ukraine as well, and Russia has just unloaded in the last, I think, 24 hours. The strikes on Kiev

[00:18:31] are incredibly intense, and I'm told now, I understand Putin is assembling almost 700,000 troops to finish off Ukraine. We're in endgame there, I believe. Do you think that's related directly to what happened in Iran, that they've used this as an opportunity? All these things, James, are always interrelated, and I'm not an inside player to tell you, it happened exactly like this.

[00:19:01] You can count on this being related. First of all, we blew off 25% of our THAAD missiles, which are defensive missiles, 25% of them protecting Israel in the last three weeks. And the other 75% will go if Bibi Netanyahu has his way. I think China and Russia, Russia wants to get it over while we're in Ukraine, while we're distracted. We, you know, whether the China is waiting for us

[00:19:30] to deploy. If we get into a war with Tehran and with Iran, we won't have the resources to fight a war with anyone else. That's what, you know, one thing, Lou, that you brought up a second ago, I mean, it was interesting when the fleet was pulled out of the South China Sea. I was almost looking for the chairman there to make a move on Taiwan. It would have certainly been serendipitous timing, but it was, you brought this up, it was so interesting to see so many ships, so many planes moved,

[00:20:00] 200 planes, all the fleet, and nothing really happened. That's bizarre. Yeah, but, you know, the hour's young, unfortunately. I mean, I don't know what's going to happen over there. But, you know, there's so many things. Go ahead. Go ahead, Lou. China is hurting. I mean, you know, foreign policy is always super complex. China is really hurting internally, and I think they would like to get the trade revved up a little bit more with us,

[00:20:29] at least in the very short term. And, you know, there's intrigue with the royal family, even though they're not royals, but the family that pretty much controls the Communist Party and the other three families that support them. I mean, there's so many things going on over there. I don't know. I mean, I'm kind of with you. Why didn't you move on us, you know, right then? But, you know, that would be it. I mean, if they did that, I mean, there'd be missiles flying. It wouldn't be conventional warheads. So, I mean, the thing about the missiles,

[00:20:59] Lou, is this. Tehran and Iran have a great, you know, they have tons of missiles. And all it takes is for one of those intercontinental ballistic missiles to hit one of our aircraft carriers, it'll go down like the Andrea Doria. And, you know, they will, that will be the greatest, you know, embarrassment to American military power imaginable. And everybody

[00:21:29] else, you know, it's just too much at stake to roll the dice because B.B. wants to keep playing at the casino. Again, I have to say, I think Trump has shown more restraint than we could have expected after it kicked off the way that it did. now, again, realistically speaking. Lou, as we mentioned, we've got a break coming up in a couple of minutes. We have skipped the first break so we could work more time in on this. I do want to move on to domestic issues in the last half of this hour with you, my friend. But a final word

[00:21:58] to you on this foreign policy, Iran, Ukraine, Russia, China, you name it, the time is yours and the floor is yours. Yeah, well, for whatever mysterious reasons, at least at this moment, I think Netanyahu might be back in the box, as I like to say, or that's where I like to keep him, foreign policy-wise. But I think right now, honestly, just from what I've heard and seen, talked to two or three people last 48 hours,

[00:22:26] Ukraine is a serious situation right now. So we shall see what happens there. But, you know, Trump has admitted our missile stores are way down, all of them. I mean, we were saying, Ukraine, tons of these defensive missiles and offensive missiles and drones. I mean, we've just been pouring it in over there and we don't have a manufacturing base anymore. You know, this isn't World War II, the arsenal of democracy

[00:22:56] where we can crank out 5,000 tanks in three months. And we've got Jewish parasites. We've got Zelensky in Ukraine and we've got Bibi in Israel and they have an insasible appetite for our munitions. That is incredible, Lou. You bring that up. You are correct. That is what has changed. You would think that with American industrial might, we could crank these out on a spit and polish, but it is not 1940 anymore, 1942 anymore when you had an industrialized

[00:23:25] and manufacturing-based country that you could do this. And so, that does certainly change the trajectory quite a bit. And so, now that they are depleted, what happens? Well, and again, even this whole thing with Ukraine and Russia, it happening this week, a slow news week, it's 4th of July weekend. I still haven't seen very much in the news about this. Much more coverage on the big, beautiful bill. Yeah, well,

[00:23:55] my understanding is, I think it was last night, there was a hellacious missile and drone attack on Kiev from the Russians. And then, and then this has been, I mean, it's been building, but it's becoming obvious that Putin is putting all his chips in the center of the table. And he told Trump on the phone, no thanks, we don't need, we're going to have a bilateral negotiation as he's getting ready to, you know, Don't you think

[00:24:24] it'd be better for us, Lou, if Russia went ahead and finished the job on Ukraine? Well, I'll tell you what, we'll pick that up in the second hour, we've got Christine Lynn coming back on, and that's her bailiwick. I mean, Lou could certainly give a great answer, and we can get his answer when we come back, but the music is going. I want to remind you, though, LouMoore.com, L-E-W-M-O-O-R-E. L-O-O-O-R-E.com. We'll be right back with the man next. Your daily Liberty Newswire.

[00:24:54] You're listening to Liberty News Radio. News this hour from townhall.com. I'm Jason Walker. A sheriff says the deaths and that flash flooding in central Texas now has claimed the lives of at least 32 people among the confirmed dead and number of children. More than two dozen children from a girl's summer camp and many others are still missing. Search and rescue efforts continue. President Trump yesterday

[00:25:24] signing that huge bill into law. One big, beautiful bill. And before I start, I want to tell you that I've never seen people so happy in our country because of that. Because so many different groups of people are being taken care of the military and civilians of all types, jobs of all types. Legislation extends Mr. Trump's 2017 multi-trillion dollar

[00:25:53] tax cuts and cuts of a lot of fat from Medicaid and food stamps by $1.2 trillion. It also provides for a massive increase in immigration reinforcement. Russian missiles and drones hammering Kiev in an overnight attack, the largest aerial assault on the Ukrainian capital since the war began three years ago. Also at townhall.com. More on that now from correspondent Anna Archehova.

[00:26:24] Russia bombarded Ukraine with hundreds of drones last night and it became the largest aerial attack since the outbreak of the war. Many people sought shelter at the metro stations at the parking lots especially those with children and those who remained at home were listening to explosions of drones that gunfire in the air as air defensa was trying to protect the city. Shortly after that President Trump

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[00:30:16] You and me Ain't that America

[00:30:45] Saw a post this week It's Independence Day weekend Saw a post this week that a person I don't know who it was It was some random commenter on one of the social media platforms They fly the Betsy Ross flag the Union Jack and the Confederate flag and they see no contradiction in that whatsoever We are an extension of Europe and if you can allow yourself to think of America as that there is still something to celebrate here even with all the mistakes and all the backward steps we've taken

[00:31:15] since the founding of the republic there is still something about that that is worth remembering and with that we toss it back to Lou Lou, let's move on now if we can to more positive news I want to get on to some domestic issues outside of the Middle East Let's talk about immigration for a moment Alligator Alcatraz has been in the news this week This is a facility that is in the middle of impenetrable swamps in the Everglades

[00:31:45] If you've ever driven down Alligator Alley which is I-75 from Naples across to Fort Lauderdale I mean you are going through some sure enough swampland and I have made that drive a few times and it's something I mean it is primeval and then now you've got this facility that's accessible only by boat or airplane in the middle of the Everglades I've seen a picture of it with literal actual alligators all around it in the water and this is where they're going to be housing some illegals this is I think the optics

[00:32:15] of this are very very good for a base that wants this this is another thing about Trump that I like without Trump this would not be the majority of the voting public wants mass deportations this is an issue that would have not been a winning issue had it not been for Trump we need to remember these things too Lou Alligator Alcatraz your thoughts well I mean it's fine it's kind of a gimmick it's great I mean I'm all for having more detention facilities they need about a hundred of these James I mean

[00:32:44] this is a state in the ocean but it's good but you know the stated purpose I listened to the press conference the stated that they had with DeSantis and Trump which was kind of a soap opera in itself but anyway the stated purpose is to have a place for them to reside while they're getting their due process and my violent objection is we need to get these people the hell out of here suspend the writ of habeas corpus

[00:33:13] and get them out and I think that I tell you what I want to see Lou I want to see them have a U.S. district court judge convention in Alligator Alcatraz there you go maybe we can house 5,000 judges in that place but anyway so it's great but you know it is a gimmick but Trump does a good job and he's working the problem DeSantis got a bunch of points you know he's trying to get his wife positioned to run against the black congressman

[00:33:43] down there I forgot she looks a lot better she looks a lot better than he does I'll tell you that yes yes indeed and you know he's had all kind of DeSantis has had all kind of problems down there with the state legislature and all that anyway this is all good for him and Trump's being very solicitous to him although he did invite Byron Donald to the press conference where they were bragging about this but I tell you what he's got quite the soap opera quite the soap opera DeSantis' wife is the new Lurleen Wallace

[00:34:13] well I mean yes I mean that's the most direct parallel you could make of that it does remind me of that but in any event go ahead I was just going to say Keith we could only wish she was but anyway touche well I think yeah well you know certainly in terms of procedure if not ideology but nevertheless so listen we got to be fair one thing here

[00:34:42] that we like to do is to be is to be real about Trump things we don't like we'll call them out we'll tell you things we do like we do like we'll tell you that too and we'll weigh it all in the balance now I you know people are bringing up that this quote unquote amnesty to hotel and restaurant workers to appease you know big agriculture the restaurant industry lobbyists things like that but even in doing this Trump said hey you know some of

[00:35:13] he called us the people who think like us the radical right he said some of the radical right are not going to like this but you know I really like these people but hopefully they'll understand well anyway wink and a nod what do you what do you think about that and is this a big deal when compared to what we were talking about during the break and that is that Tom Homan mentioned this week that in June border crossings were down to zero

[00:35:44] flat zero so compare and contrast those two things good and bad well I mean it's fantastic that border crossings are zero of course we had some Republican senators that thought we would have to let in 5,000 a day no matter what and made that deal with Biden and every one of them should never be great and that's part of the problem but we got two other big parts of the

[00:36:13] problem one is legal immigration which we don't have anywhere near the political leverage to take that on as we should and the other thing is getting at least and I believe the number is closer to 20 million I hear everything from 10 at least those people out of here if possible while we

[00:36:43] have a friendly administration friendly to that idea and we are not moving very fast well I want to ask you this while you're on that exact topic while it's on my mind so this is this is Tom under Biden also none of the 6070 were released into the

[00:37:13] US zero so you know that is the most secure border in American history maybe that is something that is a feather in the cap of the Trump administration no doubt about it but what you're talking about is deportations yes everyone wants to see these massive deportations now Brad Griffin our friend who was a fellow speaker along with you at our conference last month he writes this and I'll see if you agree and if you can tell us a little bit more about it he

[00:38:02] put a blame on the Senate parliament parliamentarian and the weak senate leadership that let her rule that illegals could still get Medicaid and you know my old boss Ron Paul used to say that was the biggest single magnet after possibly the chance of employment but the second biggest magnet of drawing illegals into our

[00:38:32] that has to be changed but it was not changed in the house but the senate parliamentarian wouldn't allow it in the senate bill so it wasn't in the final bill that's got to be changed we got a lot of problems still with immigration what can

[00:39:02] be those people are talking about nose at MAGA yeah yeah the dot indians not the feather indians yes sir but well I mean we talked about this in December and I got all excited about that issue because it really charged the MAGA movement and particularly on social media and kind of reminded them how important

[00:39:32] campaign and promised those guys he wouldn't touch it and it's terrible there's almost a million people in this country on H1B visas right now they're essentially chattel serfs for these tech bros and a whole lot of other companies and it is terrible I watched what it did to Microsoft way back in the day completely transformed Kirkland Washington my old country that I used to hang out in and it's

[00:40:02] terrible but there's absolutely no political will of those in power to do a dang thing about it so it's not an engineering school here in Memphis Christian Brothers University and their graduates can't get jobs in America it's completely phony that there aren't Americans to take the jobs they don't want to hire people who have the will and determination and self confidence that our people have

[00:40:32] when they go out in the workforce they want to bring in as many drones from other places as possible I hate to be blunt about it but that's just a fact lewmore.com lewmore.com lewmore.com get his podcast you'll love it hour of decision it's there weekly episodes check it out he's with us for one more second we're going to talk to Lou about the big beautiful build and we're going to back to Russia with Christine Lynn God

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[00:43:16] we have a half time air was sweet perfume while the sergeants played a marching tune we always tried to take the field the marching

[00:43:46] band refused to yield do you recall what was revealed the day we started singing live by this American pie drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry them good old boys were drinking whiskey this will be the day that I die this will be the day that I die

[00:44:15] interesting thing about music it can take you back immediately to a certain place in a certain time this Independence Day weekend I hear that song it takes me back a vivid memory the year 2000 August of 2000 it was nearly as hot as it is today I was on an airplane flying into Long Beach California for the Reform Party convention Pat Buchanan's nominating convention I was a delegate among other things and I had a disc man you had CDs back then

[00:44:45] and you changed my life it was all still ahead of me then I am here today having this conversation with Lou Moore because of that year

[00:45:16] and Lou I just got to tell you

[00:46:09] see every Democrat to a one stand in unified solidarity against it there's got to be something good there I see Hakeem Jeffries with this eight hour filibuster I mean break it down the good the bad and the ugly here on the big beautiful bill yeah well the first thing is and you know some people just don't seem to keep

[00:46:41] bill and as soon as you do that and you go away from the regular order of the normal appropriation process and the 12 bills and all that when you every single time

[00:47:10] that's why there are terrible provisions in this bill just one dimension quickly the house tried to whack you know they're saying oh we hate the green new deal we just hate the green new deal but you put it back

[00:47:40] in and so we're going to have a power crisis in this country because we got too much investment and too many power companies are still going for this wind and solar and stuff that is we're going to

[00:48:11] be finding out for days about more and more of those kind of things that aside as far as the tax cuts they had to be renewed we would have the largest tax increase ever if we didn't keep the Trump tax cuts that is the basic purpose of it and then secondarily we

[00:48:42] from my standpoint my worldview and I think you guys that's non-negotiable we have to have that we got to get what we can and jettison things that we can't get that was the sweetener Lou the added funding for deportations we want to see that become realized and we hope that this helps us advance on that issue now one of the big drawbacks the thing that the Democrats are sinking their teeth into is that it's going to take all these millions of

[00:49:12] people I've heard a lot of different figures 11 million 15 million whatever off of health care who are we talking about here Lou who's getting off health care is it the deadbeats is it the dregs is it not the MAGA base well I mean or is it I mean who is it I don't know well the problem is is politically for Trump and for any of us that are wanting to succeed a huge amount of the MAGA base is on Medicaid which shows that the party system is changing and our whole ideological basis underneath these

[00:49:42] parties are changing it's about 20% so you know he's got to be very careful the Republicans need to be careful but most of them are not that careful in the House and the Senate they do a terrible job messaging as soon I you know I had almost like a stopwatch out for the first Democrat that would get up in the well in the House and say people are going to die some African American gal from somewhere but anyway

[00:50:11] I believe that primarily we're talking about people changing work requirements and they also tried to go after the insurance companies that have been cheating Medicare and Medicaid and New York Times had a story that United Healthcare probably stole 50 billion with a B dollars from our federal health insurance programs over the last few years now we know

[00:50:41] why their CEO got assassinated well I mean look all seriousness I mean Trump is saying and he's pretty resolute about this that it's fraud and abuse that they're going after the people who need to be on Medicare or who need these entitlements that that's not going very few of them will lose that unlike Democrats that are frauding the system and excuse you James no I hear you but there are other issues like you know the funding formula for

[00:51:11] rural hospitals they make all this stuff so complicated I but I'm sure some people will get caught in the crossfire here I just hope there are not too many because that would not be good politically

[00:51:41] for our president so well brother brother Paul would not have liked the I wrote more than one radio commercial with those words in them and they were true for Dr. Paul but you know the reality of the moment is no

[00:52:11] different than the reality with the Israel lobby that special interests have way too much leverage over the Congress Elon Musk was a failure in my opinion on Doge Doge was a failure he promised $2 trillion in cuts in the first year then he promised $1 trillion in cuts then he promised $500 billion in cuts then he promised $150 billion in cuts over time and the Doge bill had nine

[00:52:40] the first one the first rescission had $9 billion and half of that was NPR I mean about the lightest lift possible for these guys so cutting Congress does not like to cut anything incumbent Congress people of both parties everybody's happy when the pie gets bigger and bigger and bigger and everybody gets angry when the pie gets smaller and that's just a fact what we need to do on this is we need to start identifying Cui Bono

[00:53:10] who benefits and if it's not MAGA people to hell with them 100% and you know we need to keep building this movement that's why I don't like to see my brothers and sisters abandoning Trump even though he will do many things that will drive you crazy there's no doubt but this movement is still I think the primary political vehicle to move us in a position where we can do even

[00:53:54] but my personal opinion is in line with yours and I want to thank you again for shedding an hour of your holiday weekend to be with us I know you're on vacation tonight and I appreciate you stepping away to join us it's always so good to talk to you and I know we'll talk again soon same here thanks guys

[00:54:25] that's where you need to go folks there you can get his book forerunner about his time on the Ron Paul presidential campaign of 2008 and also his podcast hour of decision you're going to want to catch it every week blue more dot com we're going back to Russia with Christine Lynn in the second hour stay tuned for that