[00:00:01] You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool. The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program. And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
[00:00:30] Welcome one and all to tonight's live broadcast of TPC. I'm your host, James Edwards. As our march around the world continues, just last week we kicked it off in grand fashion. We're getting our telephonic frequent flyer miles, racking them up, traveling throughout the United Kingdom, Canada, Puerto Rico, and Brazil.
[00:00:51] Tonight we're going to punch your ticket to Croatia and Australia when retired diplomat Dr. Tom Sunich and Professor Andrew Fraser, respectively, join our world showcase. But that is not all. We will also be critiquing Trump's speech to Congress this week and discussing other news and current events stateside. How do our esteemed guests this evening feel as though our people are faring in their respective nations?
[00:01:19] And what are their thoughts on Trump's two-month blitzkrieg thus far? To find out, let's not waste any more time. Let's go right now to Zagreb in the heart of Central Europe where we are joined by the one and only Tom Sunich, who is a mainstay on this program during March Around the World. And it is great to have him back on this evening. Tom, how are you? Thank you very much for your invitation, James. And my best wishes to all Southerners.
[00:01:48] You know, I feel very much attached to the South at this stage. I'm not ruling out that I might relocate back. You know, I can tell you more about that now, especially with the situation now in Europe deteriorating. So I guess this time I'll just have to switch gears a little bit. Well, I want to talk to you about the situation in Europe. But let's first talk about your reaction to Donald Trump. You have been a staunch critic of the United States system.
[00:02:17] But you now see the Trump administration as the only salvation for the Western world. That is very strong praise coming from a veteran of your caliber. Absolutely. I would have never thought about this, but this is exactly what's happening. Let me tell you one thing. Like Trump is not just affecting the situation in Europe.
[00:02:42] He's also standing up to the legacy media and to the system in the United States of America. And I guess at this stage, all people, all dissident-minded people in Europe and, of course, in the United States of America have to back him up. I guess at this stage, he's really the best person that we have.
[00:03:11] And I guess we all have to support him very, very, very much because most of what he's doing now in the United States is spilling over in Europe. And I can see realignments. I can see some new paradigms. I don't like this word very much, but I can see that people are shifting gears.
[00:03:34] And as I said a while ago, along with the deteriorating situation here in Europe, I'm not ruling out that this time I may be relocating back to the United States of America. And I was extremely happy when I heard it. I just couldn't believe my ears when I heard him talk.
[00:03:53] When actually, when he dressed down, this guy, this ex-clown, ex-comedian, when he started talking about, when J.D. Vance, when he started talking about the lack of free speech in Europe, I guess this is something we barely, we barely need. I hope you realize, and we already discussed about this on your program, James,
[00:04:18] that we don't have the First Amendment here in Europe. So more or less, I envy you in a sense, and I hope that things will continue in the right directions. Although I cannot rule out that he may be facing some troubles within his, within, within the, within some of his detractors in Washington, D.C. Tom, this is Keith.
[00:04:48] Hello, Keith. One thing that I seem to see happening over there is that the liberal establishment is used to America falling in line with their desires, for example, how the Ukrainian war is waged. And now they're running into headwinds. What do the average man on the street or woman on the street think about Trump and about his approach to Ukraine? You mean in Europe, right?
[00:05:18] Look, Europe is very much divided on the issue of the Ukrainian war. And I don't want to call it the Russian aggression, because if you look at the, I got to be a little bit more careful with my, the choice of my words, because even if you want to study the so-called Russian aggression, we got to look at the root causes of this aggression,
[00:05:43] at the role of the Clinton and the role of Obama's and of course Biden's environment in Russia, in Ukraine prior to the Russian aggression, two or three years back, two years ago. Particularly Victoria Neuland. Yes. And again, Europe is deeply split. Now you have a very strange alliance. Now you have the extreme right. I don't like using this word extreme right. That's how the legacy media call them.
[00:06:10] The AFD, for instance, a very, very strong party in Germany. I know some people firsthand there. And also the Rassemblement National, the French party ruled by Marine Le Pen. They are very much in the French party. And they are very much in, for the cessation, cessation of hostilities. And they, I don't want to call them pro-Putinists, but they certainly are very much advocating for the rapid solution of this conflict.
[00:06:39] And keep in mind that now also this is the extreme left, let's call them the, that's how the legacy media calls it, they call them. They're also for the cessation of this conflict. So basically what you hear from the, from the, from the media, from the mainstream media in Europe, you have to take with a great deal of caution, with a great doses of suspicion.
[00:07:05] suspicion because this guy, Macron, the French president, I mean, he acts, I guess, again, I have to be careful with my words, but he's not a serious gentleman at all. Because the French parliament, for instance, just for information, doesn't have the majority of votes in, in favor of, how can I put it, of this war.
[00:07:33] In fact, the majority of votes is carried by, the majority of seats rather is carried by the Marine Le Pen's, uh, uh, Rassemblement National and, uh, and, uh, and, uh, the, the other party, the left, uh, left wing. So again, you have a very strong, strong, strange alliances now popping up like the, like, uh, like the extreme left and extreme right being opposed to the war. And then of course, in Germany, Germany has a fragile government.
[00:08:03] It's not even a government yet. So I guess it seems to me that they're just trying to cover up their fragile, fragile institutional framework, both in Germany and France by doubling down by rather mimicking this, this, uh, anti-Russian hysteria. Just like, you know, two years back, we were witnessing this COVID hysteria. And now we are, we are witnessing this anti-Russian hysteria.
[00:08:31] And now if you follow this logic, we'll soon, we'll be banned to, banned to, to, to, uh, to read Solzhenitsyn for probably some anti-communist authors. So I guess the, the, the, I just heard the phone ringing, but now it stopped. Are you? Yeah, no, that's fine. We're going to, I know we have a little bit of an echo folks. We're working on it. Liz, I just tried the information I gave you and it just rang through to him. I heard it ringing.
[00:08:58] So I don't know exactly where we're missing here, but we have a little bit of an echo and we're going to troubleshoot that during the break. But by all means, my friend, continue on. Uh, we're talking about the state of affairs in central Europe. We'll dive a little bit deep, more deeply into that in the next segment, but I did want to open, uh, with you tonight, uh, Tom, uh, asking you your response to everything that is happening here. State side Trump's incredible speech to Congress this week.
[00:09:21] And if you believe that the current trends that are developing in America will wash over to Europe's shores, that's, uh, that's a recurring question. We're going to be asking many of our guests this month, your thoughts on that. Well, yes, this is really a historic speech of his. And I, first, I admire this gentleman. Don't get me wrong. I don't want to append it to him. I'll fall on over with some false love for, for Trump.
[00:09:45] What I fear most, and I need to stress that is, uh, well, there's always this possibility that somebody from the inside, especially folks who lost their jobs, you know, with us, with, uh, with us purges, so to speak. And I'm glad that he's conducting those purges, uh, President Trump, I guess it's good for all of us because this is sending the right message to those, uh, the creation, the Eurocrats.
[00:10:11] I call them, uh, and I can imagine how many Eurocrats we have here. So I guess what Trump is doing is truly something unprecedented, something historic and historical at the same time and sending the right message to all of us in Europe. Of course, I do have some misgivings about some of his policies, especially as far as the Middle East is concerned. And we can cover that a little bit later on.
[00:10:35] But by and large, he's truly the only president I, the way I can think back, like, uh, since 1945, I haven't seen such massive changes occurring. And of course, now you basically want to find out how Europe is doing and what is the mental framework of Europeans as far as Trump is concerned. We'll come up with that in a second. That's what we will come back to. We're going to arrest this echo during the break, recalibrate. Marxists are the sworn enemy of Western civilization.
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[00:13:24] But nevertheless, I would rather have Tom with a slight echo than not have Tom at all because he is one of the guests who adds the intellectual heft to our march around the world. So, Tom, I think you were trying to call the studio there during that last break. But you can just cease and desist that and hop back on your laptop there. And we will continue on if that's all right with you. Absolutely. Listen, you've got to apologize. I'm a little bit retarded as far as those computer gadgets are concerned.
[00:13:54] And I've got to tell you, when I talk to Kevin MacDonald, when I talk to my friends, including yourself, I usually switch to Zoom, whatever you call it. And it just works perfectly. And I'm surprised I wouldn't like to embarrass myself and embarrass your listeners with those incompetence of mine. But, again, go ahead. I was trying to call you. Because we have perfect alliance here.
[00:14:20] The Croatian network is connected to the German whatever satellite. So, I mean, I can hear you. I talk to folks in Australia. I mean, hello to Andrew Fraser as well. Yes, you'll be coming on tonight. Yes, but my best wishes to all of you. And don't forget to extend my wishes to your southerners and my southerners as well. Well, we will look forward to seeing you again. We're going to do a little more troubleshooting at the bottom of the hour. But let's not waste any more time talking about that.
[00:14:48] We have a five-minute break coming up at the end of the next segment. But, Tom, I want to get back to this. And then I want to talk about what's going on in Croatia. I mean, this is one of the highlights of our March Around the World series is talking with thought leaders, elected officials, activists in these various ports of call about what's going on on the ground in their respective homelands. And so we certainly want to hear from you about what's going on in Croatia and Central Europe in general. But before we do, I just want to go back to this very quickly.
[00:15:15] Because there does seem to be a consensus developing, and it's one that you share. And it's not a unanimous consensus, mind you. We have good friends who are still very skeptical. But I will just, for the purposes of polling, some of our most regular guests on the air since Trump has been inaugurated,
[00:15:41] you have Jared Taylor, who is very skeptical of Donald Trump in the months leading up to the election. Jared is now singing the praises of the administration. You have Kevin MacDonald, who is perhaps certainly one of the world's foremost authorities on Jewish power and influence and Jewish groupthink, if you will. He wrote an article at the Occidental Observer recently entitled The Possibility of a New Elite. He thinks we are turning a corner, even with that issue still being...
[00:16:09] And particularly the European elite. And then Paul Farahm, last week on the program, said that Trump has done more good for white people in the last 45 days than any president since Calvin Coolidge. And then Nick Griffin, who was more than a Trump skeptic, frankly, saying that Trump has won him over. Nick Griffin was on last week. And this is where we go back to you, Tom. You wanted to talk about the illusion of NATO, and I'd like to know what you mean by that.
[00:16:36] Nick Griffin said last week that in light of Trump's summit with Vladimir Zelensky, that we may be witnessing the beginning of the end of NATO. Do you believe that? And what do you mean by the illusion of NATO? Creating it. And what was the purpose of NATO? It was created primarily as a policy of what we used to...
[00:17:02] When I was in grad school in the UC system, it was for double containment, containing communism, containing the Soviet Union, ever since it was founded in 1949, it was Truman, and afterwards. That was why double? Because its purpose was also to contain Germany, to contain the central European power, the strongest power. Of course, it was not explicitly formulated and laid out in such manner,
[00:17:31] but basically NATO's purpose was the double containment. Now, after this so-called Cold War ended, whatever, I don't know why they call it Cold War, and I don't like this pep talk and all this palaver that we used in the graduate schools. And again, it was sort of assumed that the NATO would not spread out further east,
[00:17:56] but as we know very well, you know, the Warsaw Pact, of course, don't forget for Warsaw Pact, was created six years after the NATO was created. It was created in 1955. So again, I don't want to exonerate now the Russians or the Soviets, but definitely the Soviets did their job, and rather correctly. In fact, they pulled out of Eastern Europe, they pulled out of Poland. You know, Poland is now the fervent member of the NATO,
[00:18:23] and of course, it's very anti-Russian in the sense. Of course, there are also historical reasons for that, you know, if you want to understand the Polish attitude towards Russia. You know, of course, the Baltic countries, it's a different ballgame. Even my friends who are quote-unquote nationalist and right-wingers in Finland, you know some of them well. In Sweden, they're very much pro-Ukrainian, much more so than Hungarians or Croats, or for that matter, Slovaks.
[00:18:51] We haven't had over the last 40, 50, 60 years, and even earlier back if you go over the last century, we haven't had such terrible experience or terrible bad experience with the Russians as the Finns did, as the Soviets, the Swedes, and the Bolting countries. So again, you have to look from different perspectives. There's this squagmire now in Europe. Now, back to your question.
[00:19:18] NATO was created, and of course, it's still controlled, by the way, by the United States, and of course, it's the U.S. taxpayers, you know, who pay for it, and I feel sorry for U.S. taxpayers, including myself, you know. The Europe actually should shoulder this burden, and not the American taxpayers. Now, again, we have another story, and I don't know how this is going to work out, because most of those facilities,
[00:19:47] most of those satellite facilities in NATO facilities in Europe, and let's just focus for a second, in Germany are controlled basically by the American troops. You know, there is over 100,000 American troops all over Europe, from Finland all the way to Greece, and then from Spain all the way to, of course, to Ukraine, although not officially. So somebody has to,
[00:20:13] somebody's in control of all those different codes and numbers and ciphers, or whatever you want to call it. So basically, I'm very, very, again, I must stress again, and I'm happy that President Trump chose the right rhetoric. He chose the right language, you know, to confront the Europeans and tell them, look, folks, if you want to have some security, if you want to live high on the heels,
[00:20:41] you have free health service and everything, please, you know, pitch in. Get to dish out some money, and we, our taxpayers can't do that. And that's the reason I really admire Trump. And again, I keep in mind, as I said earlier, I'd like to focus on that a little bit. He's basically unraveling this legacy of Clinton and this guy, Biden, and of course, Obama. I mean, those were terrible politicians.
[00:21:10] They were not American politicians. In fact, they were just, I would call them, they were bad politicians to start with. And I'm happy this is literally the last moment in our life that we could probably come up with, that America, the American citizens and American voters could come up with a man of such stature and such skills. And I truly, and I'm not joking this time,
[00:21:39] and truly, this has been a massive moment in my personal development. You know, once upon a time, you know what I wrote, I wrote a book, Homo Americanos, and I made this comparison between Homo Americanos and Homo Sovieticus during the Clinton's time and during Obama's time. But now the moment has come where I have to completely reverse my stance toward the United States of America. And I'm not joking again, because I'm not America by accident. I'm by choice.
[00:22:09] And I'm not ruling out that if things considered in such bad direction here in Europe, I might go back to your place, to the West, and settle down in the United States of America. America. And I'm so happy, indeed, that Trump has won, and I'm so happy. The only thing I fear, I am a little bit, I must say, I'm a little bit paranoid, because you remember what happened during the first tenure of his, half of his staff walked out on him, betrayed him,
[00:22:39] lied to him, and I hope that his new crew is more committed and more... It seems different. Yeah, more committed to the... So, yes. And how much are they going to be able to read the mindset of Europeans and their shifty politics here going on and constantly changing alliances and allegiances? I don't know. Other than that, of course, you know, I don't know if it's worthwhile talking about this. I am a little bit skeptical
[00:23:08] about his policies to the Middle East, but I understand that he has to balance out a little bit. Let me put it somewhat diplomatically. I don't want to use harsh language. I guess he had to satisfy the neocross in a way, and in a sort of Jewish lobby as well in Washington, D.C. I just read the comments by Alan Darshowitz, and I follow also the syntax and the morphology, or rather the rhetoric of ADL and SPLC.
[00:23:38] I don't know if you have noticed or your listeners, they've toned down somewhat, somewhat, their rhetoric against Trump. They've smoothed over a couple of things, which just two months ago, two months back, you know, I just couldn't even think about. So, yes, I guess there must have been not a secret deal. I'm just talking about the matter of political survival, you know, even what... Exactly. Again, this... Even... I guess this is something I'd like to focus on a little bit because I can... You know,
[00:24:08] I know very well what's going on at the Columbia Universities. What's happening, what's happening, and it's still happening at some place in Europe. Like, now you have a strange alliances now that right wing, quote, I'm going right wing, is siding up with Trump and also making their pilgrimages to Israel and making their pilgrimages to Tel Aviv. We'll talk about this in a while. Listen to this pro right here, Tom Sunich, Dr. Tomislav Sunich. He knows when to take a break. He's a radio professional
[00:24:37] after all these years with us, and he heard the music, and he's taking a time out. We'll take it with him. We'll be back in five minutes. We're going to talk a little bit more about NATO, the EU, Russia, and Croatia, his homeland, where he is tonight. How would you like to help this program reach more people and earn silver at the same time? Call or text 801-669-2211 for complete details. News this hour from townhall.com. I'm Jason Walker. Results are in concerning the death
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[00:29:59] A lot of credit due to our production team on the other side of the glass tonight, Liz and Jay over there making this show go out to a global audience every Saturday night and we have... You never know from week to week what snafus will run into every week but they're always up to the task. That is correct and when you're doing
[00:30:29] live radio things happen and you've seen it on other programs and you've seen it on TV even and these things happen when you're doing live production that isn't edited with a spit and polish and so somewhere between Memphis and Zagreb tonight there was a gremlin in the phone line a little bit of an echo and they did a good job of mitigating that by the way in that last segment. We're going to skip the break here for the floater and just go all the way to the wall. It is 1.35 a.m. in Zagreb the heart of Croatia
[00:31:00] this beautiful coastal nation. Tom is losing his beauty sleep tonight. That's right. All for us. Handsome guy he doesn't do too much but I will remind you very quickly that Dr. Tomislav Sunich our guest right now holds a doctorate in political science. He gives lectures all around the world. Keith you were just enamored by a recent speech he gave. He has authored several books including the aforementioned Homo Americanus Child of the Postmodern Age. He has previously served in various diplomatic positions with the Croatian government in Zagreb
[00:31:29] London, Copenhagen and Brussels and he was just in Belgium again a few days ago. So again we are recapping the fact that over the course of the last 45 days since Trump has been re-inaugurated people like Kevin MacDonald Jared Taylor Paul Fromm Nick Griffin Tom Sunich are reassessing their opinions on just how good this is. These are not rookies these are people with vast amounts of success and experience and so we were talking about NATO a moment ago you know by the way a listener of the program
[00:31:58] reminded me that Eisenhower met with John F. Kennedy briefly during that transition of power and he said to him get the United States out of NATO Nick Griffin believes that it now may happen as a result of Trump but I want to talk to you about this now Tom very quickly EU hypocrisy you write in your outline to me and you're talking about the arming of extreme Ukrainian militants against Russia yet banning and throwing into prison in places like Germany and the UK
[00:32:27] for instance nationalists who engage in the wrong types of speech and thought elaborate on that yeah by all means and I'm so glad that you brought this up and in fact I've written about this for the Occidental Observer and some other podcasts I did and this is something folks in the United States and also in Europe have to be aware of Germany for instance is giving a vast amount of money
[00:32:57] to Ukraine providing them with logistics and so on and of course they're also arming both explicitly and implicitly the Azov battalion and I'm not talking from the top of my head but there are quite a few of Azov nationalists which you call them neo-Nazis Ukrainian Nazis whatever that means I'm a little bit always skeptical of using those big words but they're fighting they're extreme extreme nationalists they're supporting them the European Union
[00:33:27] is supporting them because the fiercest and the best fighters under quotation marks in Ukraine are actually white nationalists now at the same time here you have this massive hypocrisy that I'm not talking again from the top of my head because I know this firsthand I'm not going to cite you the names but you know some of them very well they have very harsh penalties they have very harsh legislations being enacted more and more so in France and in Germany
[00:33:56] and elsewhere against free thinkers against dissidents whatever they call them revisionists or you know Holocaust deniers or you name it so even nowadays in Germany you have strict what they call anmeldungsstelle appointments now I'll try to translate appointment centers where people can denounce their citizens who make jokes about Muslims or Muslims or for that matter foreigners
[00:34:26] who do not fit foreigners by and large and of course Germany is sick it's an erotic nation it is completely self-censored nation in a sense I feel very much sorry for that and I guess the same scenario you have in France although to a lesser extent and I must tell you I'm very critical of the Christian government itself they're just you know they're
[00:34:57] mimicking they're actually doubling down in many instances and trying to be more people than the Pope himself by implementing those hate laws or whatever the hate crimes whatever this word means scale hypocrisy that we're witnessing on the one hand the European Union pumping in lots of money into Ukraine and arming their best soldiers who are definitely all right wingers
[00:35:27] or nationalists and on the other hand they're imprisoning people they're punishing people they're stripping of their jobs and their tenures in all of Europe so again if there are some folks in the United States of America who still have some illusions about the European Union they've got to be very very careful and again I must command J.D. Vance whatever we may think about him and also
[00:35:56] Mark Rubio let's leave aside some of their other policies but by and large they need to be commanded for bringing up this issue which has been bothering which has been how can I put there I'm trying to find the best word which has been assailing European intellectuals for such a long period of time especially in Germany which is basically a police state so again I'm very happy I hope
[00:36:25] that this will spill over and I am sure that President Trump will go will not stop there but that he will continue with his free speech policy and also try to be a little bit more aggressive vis-à-vis European bureaucrats you know I could not talk for an hour about the European Union or what we call Euroslavia because that's what awaits the European Union most likely
[00:36:55] it will break apart in us who knows but it's basically a corruption prone area look I don't know if I mention that because I guess we don't have so much time but keep in mind that none of those European commissars or commissioners is being elected you know even Ursula von der Leyen and this guy and this lady Katja Kalas you know
[00:37:24] she's from Finland she's in charge of foreign policy I mean these are really high skilled folks and even if you look at their faces even if you look at their phenotypes you sometimes wonder I don't want to be vulgar on the phone you wonder what type of who is running running the show in Europe and this guy you know he reminds me of Moliere of Stathieu and Sganarelli you know there's two figures from Moliere's comedies his name Macron he plays big now like there are some vulgar words
[00:37:54] and I'll tell it in the French here the expression il pète plus haut que son cul he farts more than his ass allows him literally the French are very good you know homonyms so again there's another one they have the French is full of homonyms and synonyms so you can play with words much better than with the English language so again when you look when you study in depth the political class and even those what do you call them poodles
[00:38:22] those lapdogs here in Croatia again I know some of those people very well as a former diplomat that raises the question I don't know very well what they privately think they're fully in line with you James believe it or not but publicly they just want to keep their tenures what we call sinecure they want to keep their their pre-bond as the French say they just turf and they just don't want to
[00:38:52] lose their good life I guess I could go on with some graphic descriptions of this whole situation in Europe but to be more specific sure what I would like to ask you is this here in America and in the West when we think about the European position the European position is basically Germany France England now Western Europe what does
[00:39:21] Central and Eastern Europe think about Trump and about the Ukraine war I think they basically are horrified with Trump and regarding the Ukraine war they want to fight the war to the last Ukrainian what do the leaders of Central European nations Eastern European nations do they differ at all from the France England Germany triumvirate or not good question thank you very much look if you look
[00:39:51] at the recent election in Germany you will notice that the former communist Germany the East Germany Eastern part of Germany voted massively in favor of the AFD so basically this is the mindset of most well I should say not most but many many East Europeans or rather folks who actually were subjugated by the communist terror they have a much healthier
[00:40:20] much better attitude towards this conflict going on now in Ukraine and certainly I can't give you the right statistics I guess that's why I've got to be careful with that but they're certainly much more pro-Trump much more in favor much more sympathetic to Trump's administration than the decadent we can call it Western Europe and the bureaucracy in Strasbourg and Brussels so yes in Croatia if you talk
[00:40:50] to people in church like tomorrow if you talk to people in cafe coffee shops and even in Serbia regardless despite all historical feuds Croatia and Serbia very much pro-Trump I even hate to use this word because it has a negative connotation but by and large given the fact that we all experience communism first hand we know very well
[00:41:19] what this ethnic sensitivity training means what this DEI we call it differently but basically DEI I gotta tell you that Keith it's a carbon copy what we had back in communist Yugoslavia back in the 50s and 60s when I was born and I'm so happy diversity equality and whatever this is a typical Aurelian language
[00:41:49] a glossary I call it the glossary Aurelian glossary a lexical we're gonna be getting into this in the next hour so folks stay tuned and in the third hour we're gonna head down to Australia and check in with Drew Fraser Professor Fraser right now in Croatia during this stop on our march around the world with diplomat Tom Sunich but we're gonna be talking about a lot of these words have been stricken from the government that's exactly right we're gonna talk about that and dive into Trump's
[00:42:18] speech to Congress in detail in the next hour but I do want to check in with you on the state of Croatia itself you being a representative for that nation in this series of ours but first if I could get a quick answer on this before we focus specifically on Croatia just the EU at large you write that the self-delusional EU their lies that they pontificate about the integrity of Ukrainian borders yet they keep the borders of their
[00:42:48] own nation states the nations that make up the EU open wide open to thousands of non-European invaders and so at once how can you reconcile this Tom and do you believe that the EU will meet a pivot point as America has apparently done well I'm glad that you raised this question again you see there's so many issues we can discuss about look first and foremost Zelensky this guy let's call
[00:43:18] him an ex-comedian I don't want to use brutal words against him but he's not even an ethnic Ukrainian you know his background very well he's not Slav and you hear him on all wavelengths on all frequencies talk about the unity and integrity of Ukraine borders I wonder and of course then you have those European commissars who pair at the same slogan unity and
[00:43:48] integrity of Ukraine now what the heck are you talking about they're not even familiar with the ethnic composition of Eastern Ukraine there are lots and lots of Russians and Russophones who live there so you don't get the whole picture in the mainstream media it's far more complicated than that again don't get me wrong I'm not advocating Putin I'm not advocating strong Russia I like Solzhenitsyn of course I was raised on
[00:44:17] Solzhenitsyn's boxing communist Yugoslavia which was forbidden literature back then but again I'm deeply disturbed with this hypocrisy on the part of Western governments especially EU governments when they talk about preserving unity integrity of Ukraine and yet there are several million people Ukrainians who have fled the country let alone that Europe itself can you imagine how big it is like Croatia is now
[00:44:47] literally on the border how can I say the external border of the European Union literally hundreds and thousands of people on the daily basis illegal migrants there are felons when you cross the border without appropriate papers documents you're committing a felony and those folks are not just being led through they're even being
[00:45:17] housed and taken care of and you're not even supposed to make a joke against them you're not even supposed to criticize them I don't want to say that you're going to go to prison but you can be debanked you know the word debanked you can have some troubles at your work so I guess the only legitimate refugees in the EU are refugees from Ukraine you know all these other ones are you know that's just an excuse
[00:45:47] to be there they were going to be there one way or another well let me let me let me ask this because we are beginning to run a little bit low on time and I want to be sure to work this in because I want to be sure to touch on Croatia we cannot have a guest this month that doesn't talk about his native land his home yes that's right but I would say this I saw the odious John Bolton on the news here this last week or at least since the Trump and Zelensky meeting at the White House
[00:46:16] and I think you could make a very compelling case that John Bolton is a traitor and should be brought up on charges of treason just look at this guy John Bolton I mean I freak out when I see his face and when I see the way he talks I mean I expect that Mrs. Lady Bondi she looks very good by the way she's my type you know anyway I don't want to sound like a macho but and also
[00:46:46] this lady Tulsi Gobbard she's really an extraordinary lady they need to be supported and we gotta give credit to Trump for choosing the right picks and I hope she'll bring him to justice this guy Bolton I agree with you Pam Bondi and Tulsi Gabbard especially Gabbard but Bondi has done well so far in her position one of the best things that Trump has done is he found the Achilles heel of the left in America and that's money government money
[00:47:16] and I mean they're squealing like stuck pigs and we'll talk about that in the next hour too but John Bolton said this to get back to that John Bolton said speaking of NATO that NATO was established to counter Russia and the existential threat that they pose to democracy now you know that's interesting Tom and I know that you'll appreciate this that's interesting because NATO wouldn't have been and as you mentioned earlier NATO will fall apart without the United States bankrolling it so if the United States will pull out of that
[00:47:46] you're going to have a totally different very weak NATO if it exists at all but you wouldn't have even needed a NATO to so-called counterbalance Russia if the United States had not blundered into going to war in the 1940s to make the world safe for communism which is exactly what they did and if it had not been for that then you wouldn't need this and a lot of problems would have resolved themselves in advance but this actually leads me to Croatia so when you were on last year as a participant in this series
[00:48:16] Marched Around the World you shared with us that Croatia is the safest and most ethnically homogenous nation in the European Union and I asked you how has Croatia been for the time being but listen even the demographic profile of Croatia is changing because look what I don't like about the Croatian ruling class is they are just like lap dogs they just want to parrot to the European Union big big rulers and
[00:48:46] they sometimes want to even outsmart and how can I say they want to double down on the European Union you because I don't like it very much you got good bones there Tom you've got good bones there with your people though because I mean this goes back historically speaking you shared with us last year and then I an integral part of this series again this year but I mean Croatia still though right now
[00:49:16] ruling class perhaps not withstanding still the most ethnically homogenous nation the most white nation in Europe but it goes all the way back to the world wars where Croatia was Germany's last ally the last man standing to the bitter end in world wars one and two so you've got some people there who obviously have a good head on their shoulders so what is Croatia what is going on there now and what does the future look like look
[00:49:46] you've got to keep in there and Europe literally whatever you want to put it has been
[00:50:16] fused with Germany the Austro Hungarian Empire and all the way and now this new political class which wants to play the big time Europeanists you see they want to than with trying to exonerate themselves from their quote-unquote fascist past.
[00:50:44] So to some extent you can draw the parallel between the political class in Germany and the political class in Croatia. That's a big parallel we've got to make, except of course we had the recent war here, so folks are a little bit brave. You don't have such harsh punishment like the German criminal code 130 or what they call it, popular incitement. We don't have it, so Croatia still has a certain margin of maneuvering,
[00:51:13] even for revisionists, which Germany does not. But by and large, both Germany and Croatia, and to some extent Slovakia and Hungary, they were also good allies of Germany during the Second World War. It was not just Germany, bad, ugly crowds, as they say. Almost half of Europeans were fighting. We all had parents fighting on both sides, both on the communist and the fascist side. So things are far more complicated.
[00:51:37] So by and large, Croatia now, as I said, I'm not very happy with the political class in Croatia because it's way too much preview, how can I put it, too servile, too submissive to every demand from the European Union. I do hope, however, that Trump will play a decisive role in changing the mindset of European politicians in the months to come. I do, too.
[00:52:05] And when we talk to you again, it'll be very interesting to see how far that progresses. How far down that road we've gone. Last question for you, Tom. And this is just sort of almost an aside, but it's curious. Folks, pull up a map of Central Europe and look at Croatia. This is a very uniquely carved nation. It looks as though Croatia had, at all costs, was not going to give Bosnia and Herzegovina any coastline there.
[00:52:35] It looks like there's some parts of Croatia that slims down to about a mile wide, and they block off Bosnia and Herzegovina from the coast there in the Adriatic Sea. How did your borders come to look like that? This is a very interesting-looking nation. A diplomatic victory. Well, first, those borders were actually designed and laid out by the communists in 1945, and afterwards they were accepted by the international community,
[00:53:04] whatever that word means, the international community. And, of course, during the war of secession 30 years back, Croatia wanted to recuperate one quarter of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and so did Serbia. And let me tell you one thing. Things are, of course, very good, racially speaking, if you want to put it ethnically speaking. But in terms of tensions, don't rule out, you know, don't be too optimistic, because Bosnia and Herzegovina itself is over 2 million.
[00:53:34] I'll recap, 2 million Muslims. These are European Muslims, these are not Arabs, but those are people who back in the 16th, 15th century had adopted Islam as their religion. So the whole area, you know, we are talking about the area which you can literally, you know, if you have a bicycle or you can travel in 24 hours, you can cross this whole area from Bosnia and Herzegovina all the way to Zagreb, you know.
[00:54:01] And, again, Bosnia and Herzegovina is a very, I don't want to say dangerous, but a very fragile hotspot. Go to Croatia. Don't rule out. You want to go to that part of the world, folks, and you should? Go to Croatia. Croatia. You are going to see beautiful country, beautiful people. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And Tom will greet you there. He is there in the heart of it all in Zagreb.
[00:54:28] Tom, thank you again for coming on tonight, for lending us your talent and your wisdom and for being with us during this very special time of year on the program every year. We will be back in touch with you again very soon. We have to take a break. It's 2 a.m. Go get some sleep, my friend, and we'll be in touch. Stay tuned, folks. Thank you, and please, sir, for those technical problems with the...