[00:00:01] You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool. The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program. And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
[00:00:28] Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another broadcast. Another month here in TPC, the first year of 2025, and the book's already? You better believe it, it is Saturday evening, February the 1st, and we are live, and welcome, welcome, welcome, James Edwards and Keith Alexander as the show rolls on tonight.
[00:00:53] What a great show last week, I might add, with Brad Griffin traveling into Memphis to do three hours worth of opinion and analysis on the opening days of the new Trump administration. And I do stress the word new. It is totally different than the first, at least so far, and demonstrably so. Brad Griffin, along with Christian Sikor last week, recently pardoned. Jay Sixer, Christian Sikor, what a magnificent interview that was.
[00:01:23] But I tell you, about ten years' worth of content have been packed into the first ten days of Trump 2.0, and we will continue with that tonight. How is President Trump performing so far? How should we interpret his actions during the first few days of his new term? Keith has got a Frosty over there, and we all know that now.
[00:01:46] But drove him from Wendy's and got him a speeding, not a speeding ticket, but you got a, you did a, you got a moving violation. Yeah, he ran a stop sign trying to get to the studio tonight. I tell you what, I'm going to have to get more money for this. We're going to continue to explore these questions, though. How is Trump performing? How should we interpret his actions so far? We're going to continue to explore these questions and much more this evening with some great guests.
[00:02:12] Mark Weber, Director of the Institute for Historical Review and Hour No. 2. Hour No. 3, Veteran Commentator Dr. F. Roger Devlin will also join us. But first, we are back with our good friend David Zutty, the Executive Director of the Homeland Institute. David, welcome back. Hey, it's great to be here in the second week of the Golden Age. Is it? I mean, this is it. This is the question.
[00:02:35] And I'm so glad to have your first response lead the conversation in that direction because one of the things I was telling Keith just a moment ago, one of the things we need to be sure to do, regardless of what topic any scheduled guest is on to discuss in any given hour and any given program for the next few weeks, we need to have a poll, which you're so good at administering, and we'll get to one of yours in just a moment.
[00:03:01] But I'd love to poll our regular guests and our regular contributors about how they are seeing the Trump administration. So without further ado, David, how do you see the first 10 days? I am pleasantly surprised because Trump tricked me, and by tricking me, he tricked everybody. I thought I was very, very much disturbed by his disavowal of Project 2025. There are some other issues with the campaign, some other noises.
[00:03:27] I actually wrote an article frankly lambasting him because I wasn't trying to tear him down. I was trying to build him up, encourage others to do so. But he was playing the long game, and usually when politicians break their promises, it's bad, it's terrible, it just goes full leftist neoliberal. This is the good thing, he was keeping it quiet, and not just about getting, that's good, not just because of him getting elected. I think it would have been better if, he would have won even bigger if he had been more aggressive.
[00:03:57] But it has completely caught our enemies by surprise. He fooled me, while he also fooled my enemies, so you know what? I'm very happy with that. This is basically Project 2025. Maybe not the whole deal, but most of it. And that's what it was. People have kind of blown Project 2025 into this mythical darkness. But really, this is what everybody does. A lot of politicians, they need to have other people propose policies, like I do with the Homeland Institute.
[00:04:24] Well, Project 2025 was the better half of mainstream conservatism. Basically, the Homeland Institute on steroids and NORMI, and they had their policies, and it looks like it's being enacted. What I like compared to the first term is that Trump seems to have a plan. I think the first term, he's blindsided by just how bad. We've all got a very harsh lesson in civics and how the high school civics course is fake.
[00:04:52] It's more about a deep state and Carl Schmitt and will to power, and that's all gone. But no, this is great because he's caught the enemy by surprise, and it's wonderful how the roles have been reversed. We're no longer are moaning about, imagine if the roles were reversed. Back in the olden days, it was hard to keep up with all the horrible things the left was doing. It just seemed like one outrage after another, and we were powerless. So Trump is doing the same thing. This is important because he has seized the initiative.
[00:05:20] And this is demoralizing. They don't know how to fight it. But everything seems very well put together. For example, even Matt Gaetz. He's keeping Matt Gaetz around as basically a threat where if these current cabinet appointees are not appointed, he'll do the nuclear option and go to emergency appointments, which would probably be Matt Gaetz. So I'm pretty sure he will get his full cabinet appointed. Liberal tiers will flow. But this is very, very good.
[00:05:48] And of course, there's more that can be done, but I'm very happy with this. This has exceeded my expectations. I'm very pleasantly surprised. David, this is Keith Alexander. I think it was a great stroke of good fortune that Trump did not get reelected in 2020 because I don't think he would have come out swinging the way that he is now if he had.
[00:06:12] I think all of their attempts to persecute him and oppress him and torment him have just resolved his will to go after them and to make it count, make it hurt. And you're right. I remember in the civil rights movement and back in the old days, the conservatives were always back on their heels. And now it's the liberals that are back on their heels. And that's such a wonderful change.
[00:06:42] I love, I just, you know, there's no telling how much he can get accomplished in this first two years if, I think he's totally thought this out. It was like the D-Day invasion. He had everything planned and it's just going exactly the way he wants it to. And he's rocked them back on their heels and they don't know what to do. Right. I think too, he has a lot of good staffers. And I can't speak directly to this, but there are rumors that a lot of our guys are in the
[00:07:11] White House or in some of these policy think tanks or young Republicans and feeding up good ideas. Because J.D. Vance, he is a historical first. He is the first extremely online American to be in an office, at least in the presidency or vice presidency. And he seems to be open to our ideas. There is a, the left is correct about this. There is something of a pipeline from the racist group chat on Discord or Telegram to White House policy.
[00:07:39] I don't think that's over-exaggerating it. I think our ideas are being heard. They're being refined and they're being passed on. And we're all, and people, we have a lot of good ideas. And I also want to go back to what you said about, we had to earn this through four years of, of this terrorism. When you think about it, a red terror, basically a pastel terror, a pastel Soviet Union. We had to endure that to get the good ending. And 2020, 2021, it felt like darkness had fallen. But we had to do it.
[00:08:07] We had to learn the same lessons that Eastern Europe learned under the Soviets. But thankfully, we got to learn it in four years and with a lot less, with a lot fewer dead bodies than Eastern Europe did. And I think it's good because it's not just Trump who's been radicalized. I think ordinary people, ordinary people are saying, I voted for revenge. I'm willing to take a hit economically for the price of eggs to do this. And the left had to really show their true colors. That is to show that they're nasty, they're evil, they're petty.
[00:08:36] Before, I was saying, people like us would say, like, this is, they will throw us into cages. They hate us. We would sound a little hyperbolic. Well, the left did a good job of explaining that that is actually completely correct. We were right. And so we should be listened to. And really, the country had to be brutalized. I think we had a very harsh crash course in Carl Schmitt's concept of politics, the front
[00:09:00] and enemy distinction, and political realism to kind of get over the facade of decency that we're all part of one team, this faux patriotism when liberals, they'll stop waving the trans flag and pick up an American flag when they want something. That's all gone now. People are cynical, but in a good way, they're realistic. And they're down to fight. And we're never putting Humpty Dumpty together again. There will be no return to decency. The delusion is shattered.
[00:09:27] And so I want to thank the J6ers, because we all suffered. This lesson came from suffering. We all suffered through this to learn. But the people who suffered the most, and therefore the greatest teachers of the country, were the J6ers. Their martyrdom is what really taught America what we are dealing with. So we have them to thank for Trump's, not just Trump's victory, but Trump's policies. Well, we had one of those people that was pardoned, Christian Secor, on the show.
[00:09:55] What you don't know yet, Keith, is that, and I should give credit to this, and I'm glad you're mentioning this, it was actually none other than David Zutty who facilitated the introduction to Christian Secor. And I tried to, he was trying to be high-minded and whatnot. I said, you need to put that behind you. I said, they basically robbed you of four of the best years of your life. I'm a lawyer. I know what people in jail go through. A lot of people don't. I mean, it's despair. It's desolation.
[00:10:24] It is fear. It is, you know, it's such a wrenching experience that I think everyone, I think that there should be a class action brought against the federal government for all of those J6ers. I'm sure some of them got broken and some of them got hardened. And if you listened to that young man's testimony last week, I think not only has he come out of it with a sense of direction and purpose.
[00:10:51] I'm sure he had one before, but I think so much so that this is a guy that we should be advancing for leadership positions and who will be a leader in the future. Christian Secor. David Zutty with us right now at the Hawaiian Institute. Marx is on the sworn enemy of Western civilization. Karl Marx crafted his communist ideology with the genocidal goal of destroying the European peoples. Key concepts of communism are atheism and materialism, that God and spirit do not exist. Germany was smashed at the end of World War II, and communism emerged triumphant.
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[00:12:16] If you take a 1% pay cut across the board, you have more than enough money to actually pay for the disaster relief. But nobody's going to do that because they're fiscally irresponsible. Who are they? Republicans. Who are they? Democrats. Who are they? Virtually the whole body is careless and reckless with your money. So the money will not be offset by cuts anywhere. The money will be added to the debt, and there will be a day of reckoning. What's the day of reckoning?
[00:12:45] The day of reckoning may well be the collapse of the stock market. The day of reckoning may be the collapse of the dollar. When it comes, I can't tell you exactly, but I can tell you it has happened repeatedly in history when countries ruin their currency. Welcome back.
[00:13:15] Of course, our guest right now is David Zutty. He is the executive director of the Homeland Institute, a very unique, relatively new institution that is doing work that other folks on our side have not done with regards to polling. You need to check it out. There's certainly nothing on our side like it. But homelandinstitute.org, homelandinstitute.org. David Zutty is an attorney in California by trade.
[00:13:42] He has a B.A. in political science from the University of California, San Diego, and a J.D., a fellow attorney, Keith, from the Chapman University's Deli Fowler School of Law. Before studying law, he served six years in the U.S. Air Force as an airborne linguist and achieved the rank of staff sergeant. He is a veteran in our movement, although he is younger than me, anyway. And he is another one of these leaders that has already assumed the position, and you'll be hearing a lot more from him and about him in the future.
[00:14:10] I encourage you to go to homelandinstitute.org. And David, let me just roll through very quickly. Yeah, go ahead, please. This quick thing. I also have the great pleasure of studying under John Eastman at Chapman, and he got into a lot of drama over January 6th. He was viciously defenestrated from Chapman, but he has put together a very fine article explaining why there's a strong argument for birthright citizenship to be terminated under the 14th Amendment. So I'm excited to see how that plays out. There you go.
[00:14:39] I mean, he has studied under some very interesting people. He is working with great people. He is associated, of course, with countercurrents. The Homeland Institute is sort of a sister organization to that, or at least adjacent to it. They work together. But be sure to check it out, homelandinstitute.org. So, David, and again, I want to say again, thank you for putting us in touch with last week's guest, Christian Sikor. Very impressive. As you said he would be, it exceeded expectations. If you missed it, folks, go into the broadcast archives.
[00:15:05] Now, besides the hour with Christian last week, the other two hours were spent just trying at a breakneck pace and quite feverishly to keep up with everything that Trump has been rolling out in these opening days. I will do the same here and then let Christian respond. This is just sort of all over the board, but just some things that are happening right now that would certainly, to say the least, not have happened otherwise. So, how was this for example? Boston University is closing its Center for Anti-Racist Research as its founding director,
[00:15:36] Ibram X. Kendi, has left for another job. There was a photograph that made the rounds this week, folks, at the FBI Academy in Quantico. And it is a picture of like rainbow adjectives on the wall, compassion, equity, inclusion, diversity. And it's been painted over in this drab gray, you know, which you would expect for a serious organization. That's a good color for a wall at the FBI. So all of this just being... Unvirgined by what has been. Just being painted over.
[00:16:05] Trump has ordered a sweeping memorandum that effectively eliminates gender ideology from the federal government. But ICE is responding to your calls. I love this in Alabama. Some woman contacted ICE about illegal aliens. She's suspected to be living in an apartment complex near her location. And they showed up with full tactical gear, rounded them up, and shipped them out. That is happening. Here's a reporter speaking to this. How many of these migrants being deported...
[00:16:34] This was asked of Caroline LeVette, Trump's press secretary. How many of these migrants being deported have a criminal record versus just being here illegally? Her response? All of them. They broke our laws. They are criminals as far as this administration goes. And I'll just very quickly go on. And the tariffs are happening. 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico and 10% on China, all effective this week. I mean, this is wild. Trump on the executive order to ban the mutilation of children. As he puts it, it is my great honor.
[00:17:03] Our nation will no longer fund, sponsor, promote, assist, or support so-called gender-affirming care, which has already ruined far too many precious lives. Again, taking the moral high ground on these issues is very important for the general public. So it appears that this is a serious regime change. And then Stephen Billings... I think he's trying to knock out the transgendered from the military, too. That whole thing is a scam. People don't realize that the only reason these people are in the armed forces is so they can get extensive medical care and treatment.
[00:17:32] Because if you get made a transgender, you will have a lot of medical bills. And regular insurance is not going to cover it. So that's why they're in the armed forces. They're not there to provide some type of wonderful diversity or something like this. They're basically to sponge off the federal government. Well, with regards to the armed forces... Or sometimes there's a darker side of that. It's also maybe a good combat experience. These people are very mentally unstable. They're extremely violent. There's a darker side to that, too.
[00:18:03] A lot of it is, of course, leeching. That's like 90% of it. But 10%... There has already been rumors of some type of weird trans-rational cult killing people. I think we're going to see them pop up. And what's dangerous is that a third of transgender individuals are veterans. That's a lot. And a lot of them are like, we're not in tactical stuff. But still, like about a third. That's just insane. We're being fleeced. It's more ridiculous than women getting pregnant right before going on deployment. It's out of control.
[00:18:33] And it is bad. Well, I would ask you this, David, and then turn it back over to you to comment on, again, sort of a hodgepodge, but in the best possible way of things that have been coming out in the news this week. But with your background as in the military, I think you would be perfect to comment on Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth. And he declared this week that effective immediately, the Department of Defense components and departments will not use any official resources for any identity month.
[00:19:02] Now, this includes Black History and Women's History Months. Pete Hegseth also announced this week that the U.S. military can now perform special ops against Mexican cartels following President Trump's designation of them as terrorist organizations. He says all options are on the table. And then lastly, he said on an interview this week, I believe it was with Fox News, quote, one of the dumbest phrases in military history is our diversity is our greatest strength. He went on to say our diversity is not a strength.
[00:19:32] Our unity and our shared purpose is a strength. So, David, coming from a military man, how do you respond to that? And then all of this. Let me add one more thing to that. He has restored the names of all these military bases to the, like, Fort Bragg. Has that happened? I don't know that yet. Well, he's proposed it. Well, the other stuff has definitely happened. I think it's happened because I've seen a picture of them changing the sign outside of Fort Bragg. I'm not sure about that. But the other things have happened. Maybe it has. I just don't know. But anyway, go, David.
[00:20:00] Yeah, so I was very much perturbed how back in, what was it, 2012 or 2013, the Airman's Manual said that diversity was military necessity. As a great fan of history, I minored in history. I'm focused on ancient history like Rome. That's simply not true. The best militaries are very monolithic and very uniform. So that was nonsense. What Hegseth is facing is a rot that has been going on since the Vietnam War.
[00:20:28] And it's very deep, and he's going to have to clean house. He's going to have to deal with the Wilk brass. He's going to have to deal with some of the enlisted people. So this will be a struggle that is ongoing. But he's made some very aggressive first moves, and I strongly congratulate him on that. These things may not seem like a big deal. They might seem cosmetic, but it sets the tone. And the tone goes downhill. And what I recommend that Hegseth do is set up a hotline for insubordination, because there will be rampant insubordination.
[00:20:56] I saw insubordination against Trump's policy on transgenders. That didn't go anywhere. But people were very rude about that and out of control. Based on Offit, they actually ran a whole story about this transgender individual, and several stories actually slotting this creature, despite how they didn't do anything else, apparently. But in the meantime, you had all these white, mostly white, male, heterosexual guys on the flight line
[00:21:25] in extreme cold or extreme heat working long hours on dysfunctional jets, and they're not giving any type of applause. So that was very insulting. Another thing that's good, I think that it's very good that we focus on defending our borders instead of Israel's. I know that there was some legitimate concern about Hegseth and Zionism with talk of, you know, the Red Heifers and all that and Christian Zionism. But if you look at the objective actions of Hegseth and of the administration,
[00:21:54] it seems that they're much more focused on America than Israel. And that's a good thing. And people don't like it, and that's good. So I'm very happy about that. But no, there's a culture of careerism throughout the whole military that's very pervasive. And I actually wrote some articles, I think under my old pen name of Thomas Joybin, that Christian mentioned last time, talking about a culture of careerism and the military being dysfunctional. A lot of it comes down to how they are not focused on the mission.
[00:22:23] They're focused on the holiday party, all these little things. And we need to refocus on the mission because, first of all, it's good for America. But, too, that's good for white men because we're the ones who are most mission capable. That's – it naturally favors us. And it will push out all these little parasites and adversity hires that they can no longer play their game and get promoted and playing silly games. And they'll be gone. But this will take a long time. Well, we live in a serious world now, too, David, and it's dangerous.
[00:22:50] And I wanted to bring up to you, what about Ukraine? We talk about defending our borders rather than some foreign nations. Look at all the money we've spent trying to defend the borders of Ukraine. And what do you think is going to happen regarding Ukraine? Is Trump going to end it? Is Trump going to just bluff an ending to it? You know, it's just such a hole, you know, a giant sucking sound, like Ross Perot said, of money for America.
[00:23:19] How can we get out of that quagmire? They've certainly cut off the funding for now. Go, David. We've got just a few seconds left before the break. Ukraine is probably the one instance that NATO has been used for what it actually is intended for as opposed to spreading liberalism. But I do want to see the war ended. And I think what Trump is doing, his strategy, is art of the deal. He starts high, he starts bombastic, and he'll meet in the middle. So yeah, he's going to threaten Russia and talk big.
[00:23:45] But I think he will eventually come to an agreement with Putin because Putin and Trump are both adults who are focused on interests. The whole Ukraine war has been sabotaged by the left because they're focused on these ridiculous ideas like democracy as opposed to blood and soil. And they're hysterical, and Trump doesn't respect hysterics. They know they're weak at home. Putin will respect strength.
[00:24:08] They actually made an article, made this point on countercurrents actually, is that Reagan, even though I don't like Reagan because of amnesty, Reagan is a great case study in this. The Soviet Union didn't take Reagan all that seriously until he brought the hammer down on these striking air traffic controllers. Well, if Trump is aggressive on domestic policy by all these wonderful things he's doing right now, paring the J6ers, Putin is more likely to respect him and therefore make a deal. So I'm cautiously optimistic about Ukraine.
[00:24:37] We're going to get back on the topic of immigration in the next segment with David Zutty, Executive Director of the Homeland Institute, homelandinstitute.org. Stay tuned. Your daily Liberty Newswire. You're listening to Liberty News Radio. News this hour from townhall.com. I'm Jason Walker.
[00:25:04] President Trump today signing an order to impose tariffs on imports from Canada, Mexico and China. Here's Bob Agnew. President Trump is declaring an economic emergency to put the duties of 10% on all imports from China and 25% on imports from Mexico and Canada, America's largest trading partners, except for a 10% rate on Canadian oil. The move fulfills Mr. Trump's campaign promise, but also raises the prospect of increased prices for American consumers.
[00:25:34] However, the White House says the order includes a mechanism to escalate the rates if the countries retaliate as they threaten to do. For the second time in two days, a deadly plane crash in the eastern United States. This time, all six on board are dead. One person on the ground has been killed when that aircraft went down shortly after takeoff in Philadelphia.
[00:25:55] Also at townhall.com, federal investigators, meanwhile, speculating on the cause of the midair collision near Reagan National Airport Wednesday. They're asking for the public's patience as the work continues. Juan Brown is a retired Air Force pilot and current commercial airline pilot. He says one of the key moments prior to the collision, the late warning from the tower to the army chopper. Late call out to the helicopter, do you see the airliner?
[00:26:24] Because when you merge targets like this, you will get a collision warning on your radar. But because the helicopter is assuming responsibility for visual clearance of the airliner, that relieves the air traffic controller of his responsibility to maintain that clearance. More movement today in the Middle East.
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[00:30:07] Welcome back, everybody. David Zutty, as we continue to ask some of our regular guests their opinions on how Trump is doing so far and how we as white advocates should be responding to it and receiving it. And so far it's been almost a unanimous decision. Everybody is excited. Everybody is happy. I think it has exceeded expectations.
[00:30:31] And I have talked to, we've talked to a lot of people on the air since he was reinstalled or since he retook the oath. And even, let's see, Steve King, Jared Taylor and others of the weekend of the inauguration. And everybody is just really, really happy right now. David, let me ask you this. One thing that I personally would like to see, and James can tell you it's been a long time concern of mine.
[00:30:57] I was one of the first victims of affirmative action when it came to getting into law school. I had to go to a lesser law school while a classmate who was black, I had a 170 out of 180 on the LSEAT. He had below a 150, and he got in, and I didn't even get put on the waiting list. I don't know what the situation is going to be. It's like they said, we've changed things back to the original language of the 64 Civil Rights Act.
[00:31:26] But it's like they're not encouraging people to bring suit for past racial discrimination based on affirmative action. What do you think about that? Is that something that you think would fly or that Trump might possibly get behind? What are your thoughts on that? I think you should unleash the Department of Justice on these people and see what happens. And I think just the threat of it would get people in line.
[00:31:52] And there's been a problem with the Supreme Court trying to deal with this and wrangle it. So the case of Grutter, Grutter, in so many words, basically said, yeah, you can break the Constitution and do racial discrimination. But hey, guys, do it only for 20 years. And that's not what the court said. The court said that we expect this problem to be resolved in 20 years. Well, you need to read between the lines there.
[00:32:19] They basically told academia and the broader world, you can bend the rules, but you need to fix this problem. And I think a lot of the justices who made that decision were civic nationalists. They were authentically race-blind. They thought that black outcomes are purely due to socioeconomic reasons. Well, then they're too stupid to be in positions of authority. But what I saw was that the 64 Civil Rights Act basically gave us what everybody wanted,
[00:32:49] which was that race can't be taken into consideration for any appointments or any type of jobs and things like this. And instead, Alfred Blumrosen, under the Chevron Doctrine, made it exactly the opposite of what the language of the law says. Yeah, they essentially used the fact that black people did not magically catch up because they have issues, a skill issue, as the gamers would call it.
[00:33:16] And what this came down to is that after this, so Christopher Caldwell, I believe that's his name, he wrote a really good book on this called The Age of Entitlement, explaining how after the original 1964 Act, all these subversive judges just completely tore the law apart and basically made a new constitution. So I think that's a good point. But a lot of that case law, it's been looked down upon. The recent Supreme Court case on affirmative action was not as aggressive.
[00:33:45] They left a dangerous little poll in it, but they seem to be saying that time's up. You didn't fix the problem. We're done indulging this. You can no longer violate the constitution. It would be even better to say that instead of that, you know, it was wrong then. It's wrong now. It was wrong in the interim. And basically you owe these people that suffer because of your unconstitutional actions reparations. You want some reparations there. We're going to get in on the act now. I got it.
[00:34:13] My whole career as a lawyer has been under the, you know, dark cloud of affirmative action. All this wasn't bad. It's not Vanderbilt, but it's not bad. Well, see, in Memphis, Vanderbilt is the gold standard. And when I didn't get into that, I had a lesser career because of it. Well, we'll file a reparations, but we've got to put a pin in that right now. And let's move to this before we come up on the next break. And this was the topic of this segment, or at least it was supposed to be.
[00:34:37] The last poll that you ran, David, at the Homeland Institute, homelandinstitute.org, was about the great H-1B war. Now, this is a war that was over rather quickly, and we won. But there was, of course, that period of unrest right before the inauguration or a few days before it where Elon Musk weighed in and got his hat handed to him and then basically came back to heel in a way. But what were your findings there? There are some interesting findings there.
[00:35:03] So this is great because we were able to do a snap poll very quickly in response to current event to apply pressure and data. But 90% of respondents agreed or strongly agreed that if we're experiencing a shortage of skilled workers, it would be better in the long term to reform education and training for Americans. Now, yes, that's a very common sense statement, but I have never before seen something where it's 90% of all respondents agree with something. Maybe 90% of one political party will say something,
[00:35:33] but this was unheard of in all my polling history so far. So that's good, I think. And what that means is that there's very strong bipartisan support for reforming education and training. That might fall apart as people go hysterical about Orange Van Bad, but still that's a very good thing. We can get independence that way. People agree it's broken and we can and should reform it and make our own people better. This shouldn't be controversial. You have a mandate. It's popular. Trump should do it.
[00:36:02] Another thing was that 68.9% of all respondents agreed or strongly agreed with a statement that, it's commonly said that immigrants are the jobs Americans won't do, but the reality is that employers just want to pay their employees less, which is good because that's what this all comes down to. It really is about employer greed. And when they say, we will see this, we will see this. Construction has been paused across the country, but you know what? They will start paying white men an honest wage. And you know what?
[00:36:31] Homer Simpson will be able to afford a house again and a family. That shouldn't be a cartoon from the 90s. It shouldn't be a fantasy. It should be the standard lifestyle. That should be common. Yes. You need to read James' interview of me in the Barnes View back in November and December. That's exactly the type of stuff. He said, what did he miss out on not growing up in the 50s and 60s? And I said, a vast blue-collar middle class for starters. Yeah. Exactly what you're talking about.
[00:37:00] And too, what's going on with blue-collar jobs right now in tradesmanship is that it seems to be getting more and more technical. You want white men doing this because, for example, drones are being used for agriculture. It's getting more and more technical. And you don't want a bunch of illegals doing it. You need to have competent white men doing these jobs. Or else you wind up with these pictures of... They're fluent in English. Yes. In English. Put in hablar el inglés, por favor.
[00:37:24] I used to be an airborne Spanish linguist, so I like using that training to make fun of these invaders. But yes, another big finding was that 34.7% of white Republicans were in some form of agreement with the statement that many people who support immigration are motivated by racism against whites. And that was a jump from four months ago, four months before this poll, of being 27.6%. Now I have to do...
[00:37:51] I have to warn against this a little bit. This might be a methodology thing because during the previous pollings, I was controlling for Biden support. However, for this poll, because it was in the interregnum before Trump took office, I also controlled for Trump support. So that might have had some influence on it. I'm not sure. It might be a methodology issue, but I don't think so because 27.6% to 34.7%, that's pretty... That's a nice jump.
[00:38:20] And yeah, there's a margin of error, but I think that's helpful. I think part of it was driven by just how nasty immigrants, and especially Indians, were being on Twitter and elsewhere and disclosing and essentially saying, we will replace you, and being so nasty about it. And very draining. They're not capable... Before Jews, at least the old Jews, current ones seem to have the same issue, but they could be a little bit more sophisticated about this and hide their true intentions.
[00:38:47] But no, the H-1B crowd is very anti-white and nasty. They're not sophisticated. Particularly the Indians. The Indians are about the most tribally ethnic group that you can name. To David's point, though, when the H-1B thing was raised by Elon and MAGA basically reacted very strongly, the Indians just really showed out. I mean, it was just... I mean, they sunk themselves, really. They have no culture, and it really shows that they did not assimilate toward culture because they would know it's culturally...
[00:39:16] That's not how you act in America, or you're not supposed to. And so they really have not assimilated culturally, and they had no intention to, and they can't. This is just how they are. They're very vicious in their own country with the caste system where they stomp on people beneath them. People who are on the lower rungs are always acquiescing. It's a vicious country. It's not nice at all. It's not some great place of enlightenment. That's all gone. That was destroyed. They're so great, why don't they improve themselves?
[00:39:44] Yeah, it's what Spimgur called the felaheen. That's a whole other topic. But the significance of the H-1B war is big because Elon Musk treated us as an equal. Before, the elites would simply do what one of the chapters of Tucker Carlson's book, Shif a Fool Said, was, which is, shut up, they explained. Elon didn't tell us to shut up. Now, yes, he banned some people, but he had a debate. He dispatched this Adrian Dittman guy, who I don't think is Elon.
[00:40:12] I think it's actually a de facto spokesman of Twitter to have a discussion with Keith Woods about this. Can you imagine in 2016 a tech guy, the richest man in the world, having a discussion with someone associated with what was back then termed the alt-right, or adjacent to it? Unheard of. But no, there was some diplomacy here, and they had to deal with us. They heard us, and despite the censorship that happened, despite some weird stuff that happened with people's blue check marks
[00:40:41] on this free speech platform, but with some terms and conditions, not always valid, we still won. And what's big is that we extracted, I think, a compromise from Elon Musk where he agreed that employers should have to pay a large salary or a fee to show that they are serious. And this is good. Now, I would prefer to completely abolish the H-1B visa, especially since way more, like 10 times as many, are granted than are congressionally authorized.
[00:41:10] But I'm happy with that because it will force employers to get serious and stop replacing Americans. I think that's an okay stopgap measure. I will, of course, advocate for disabolishing it outright, lowering the cap, enforcing the cap. But I would like to see a large fee that goes towards Americans from these employers who hire H-1Bs really show that they just don't want to pay an employee less. They actually can't find someone. And you know what? That job actually is important. It's important enough where they're willing to pay
[00:41:39] a lot more than they usually would for this guy. Make it real. Money talks, not your dumb principals or these platitudes of doing the jobs Americans won't do. It's not just about changing things now. It's about recompensing people for the damage that was done to their careers beforehand. Well, let's get it stopped. Let's make sure we get it stopped and then we can talk about... I mean, but yes, I mean, all of it is... It's like J-6. It's not all right just to say you're pardoned.
[00:42:08] What about four lost years? Well, being pardoned is better than they were a month ago. And I get that, but... No, I'm saying we don't need to be satisfied just with... Well, here's what we've got. We're not against Trump, but we need to insist, like the left would, if she was on the other foot, that they pay for it. Well, the blacks never got reparations. They always wanted them. They never will. They've had reparations for 70 years. I'm pretty sure we're going to see our own January 6th committee that will have something of an inquisition.
[00:42:37] And careers will be destroyed and we will have the data needed to get these guys and reparations they deserve, like millions of dollars. At least 10 million in my opinion. That would be great. Now, let me go through this very quickly. So if you go to homelandinstitute.org, you will find David's scientific data on this poll regarding the great H-1B war that took place earlier in January. Again, just to recap,
[00:43:05] 90.1% of respondents agree or strongly agree that, quote, if we are experiencing a shortage of skilled workers, it would be better in the long term to reform education and training for Americans, end quote. David himself just said he has not seen anyone agree on any question at that high of a level, 90%. 68.9% say that, quote, it's commonly said, agree or strongly agree with the following statement. It's commonly said that immigrants do the jobs Americans won't do,
[00:43:35] but the reality is that employers just want to pay their employees yes, less, almost 70% agree with that statement. And then this is, I think, very interesting, David. 34.7% of white Republicans are in some form of agreement with the statement that, quote, many people who support immigration are motivated by racism against whites. You just mentioned that a moment ago, but 34.7% of white Republicans now agree with that. It was 27.6% only four months ago. So that's the question is,
[00:44:04] is there a growing consciousness amongst white Republicans? I think two of these deportations and seeing the pushback to the deportation, that's only going to grow. And two, one of the reasons why the left was so opposed to any type of national populism, racial pride, borders, was because they know if people got a little taste of this, they want more. It's going to become addictive because, first of all, it feels good. People were taking this natural ethnic pride
[00:44:34] and funneling it into video games and sports ball teams. Now they get to do it in real life. And not just are they allowed to release this primal impulse to advocate and fight for your people, which we've been doing since we fought the Neanderthals in the depths of time. Well, life is going to get better because rents go down, wages go up. There will be some pain. Stuff will become more expensive in the short term. But I think we have to go through this little leap forward,
[00:45:01] a little skip forward, to get to what we want. And it's going to get a lot better after we go through this little skip forward. And it will be worth it and life will improve and they will want more. They will want to then deport all the anchor babies. They will want to retroactively revoke birthright citizenship. They will start aggressively addressing black crime. And once we start talking about ethnic issues, well, at least maybe talking about the Jews too. So this is good. I'm very happy. Well, you know, diversity, David,
[00:45:31] has been so toxic and terrible for public education in America. You know, you need to look back at it and see just how good public education was in America before the Brown decision and racial integration of public education. And now we have not only blacks, we've got Hispanics, we've got all sorts of other minorities that don't speak English. And, you know, our public education isn't worth a bucket of warm spit anymore. And we've got to get...
[00:46:01] I went to, I attended the aptly named Martin Luther King Middle School, which was in white suburbia, but they bust a bunch of the diversity in. And they attacked my seventh grade teacher, not physically, but were very vicious towards her. I mean, and it was so dysfunctional that I had a... They didn't even cover medieval history because they had no interest in learning about African or Islamic history, which is, I find, very ironic. They weren't even interested in the gold of Ghana or Mali.
[00:46:30] So I ended up having to teach myself medieval history on my own. And I don't think they realized what they were doing. That led to me, like, playing Age of Empires 2. That's where I got... That led to radicalization. And, yeah, it's bad. They just shut down classrooms. They don't respect teachers. Others, you can... I learned so much more just on my own because I had to. And it's ridiculous. Well, see, diversity turns education into a babysitting service, basically. That's what we've got. Yeah. Well, let me say this very quickly, David, before you continue.
[00:46:59] I just want to be sure to plug this again before, because the hour is fleeting. Mark Weber is up next. And then another member of the Countercurrents family, Roger Devlin, will round out the program tonight in the third hour. We will continue to ask all of our regular guests their take on the Trump administration. And so far, to a man, I have not found one that says, you know, this isn't good for white people. Nobody's saying that. Quite the opposite. But be sure to go to homelandinstitute.org,
[00:47:28] homelandinstitute.org, and you can read the complete findings of this poll. You can see the data. You can see the percentages. I mean, it is very well laid out. We are covering the broad strokes and barely that. There are a lot of details, all fascinating. Check it out at homelandinstitute.org. And you can see, perhaps, the growing of a white racial consciousness. And then here, I would say... The little boy is telling the emperor he has no clothes. It's happening. It's happening. And then, you know, interestingly, David,
[00:47:57] and almost comically, but they were serious. You would think that this is like a skit. But there was a Trump surrogate. It wasn't Stephen Miller, and I'll say this in the next hour with Mark. We're going to be talking about American identity vis-a-vis immigration and deportation and things like that. But Stephen Miller may be the most important man in the world right now. He's the one driving all of this. I believe that. I don't have any evidence for that, but I believe that. But there was another Trump surrogate, Scott Jennings, who had to go on TV to explain
[00:48:27] that immigration laws are, in fact, laws to be enforced. They were saying, like, well, what do these people do? What kind of violent crimes do they commit? Well, you don't have to commit a violent crime to run afoul of the law and deserve to be deported. And then the actual argument, David, did you see this? It was on MSNBC, but one of the ubiquitous Democratic strategists, some woman said, and she didn't say this to be a joke. You're going to think that this is like a punchline. But she said, what are white women going to do when they can't afford,
[00:48:57] when there's no blueberries for their smoothies? That was actually her argument for keeping these people in the United States, and that was a real thing. We will have a great leap forward. We will pick our own blueberries. We will suffer for it. We will develop robotics. There was a hilarious, a hilarious, a hilarious image or some meme or response that white people will pick these things. All you've got to do is give us a cute basket and a place to take pictures.
[00:49:26] You go to these orchards that's called agritourism, agricultural tourism, and you go and you pick your own and you take pictures and the whole family dresses up. In Southern California, we do it every year. In Carlsbad, they have the flower fields and the strawberry fields, and yes, white people go and do these little agricultural things on their own, because it's fun. We do it here. Every fall, we go out and pick pumpkins and take pictures and we go to the orchard. It really is a good, gets you close to your roots. That's where all our ancestors did.
[00:49:55] You actually pay to go and pick them, much less, not only are we not being paid, we paid for the right to go and pick these things. Anyway, but that was a funny response. David, with five minutes remaining, I want to be sure to touch on this because it was something you said you wanted to talk about. We are seeing these illegal aliens in handcuffs being herded onto military planes, and Pete, I believe it was, no, it was Homan, Homan, Tom Homan said, we can have any of them back in seven hours, and that goes down to South America.
[00:50:24] How do we speed up the deportations? Because if there's one thing the Trump administration is doing, it's indicating that there's not enough of them happening. What's been happening is that with all these ICE raids, all the illegals are staying home, so it's harder to get them. They go to a job site and the job site is empty. So I have three solutions here. The first one is that all these liberal states, they have these license plates. Sanctuary cities. Yeah, they have basically driver's licenses for illegals where they just skip
[00:50:54] the part where you have to prove that you're legally here in America. And so this naturally means that these states have huge databases of people's names, faces, and residences. And a lot of illegals don't even get this driver's license because, you know, why not just break another law and they're a little worried about these databases being raided? there's still enough in them. We can raid them and this will make them very scared. We'll know which homes to go to. Thank you, libertards. I'm sure some judge will issue an injunction, but the mere fact that they're raided or Trump talks about targeting them
[00:51:24] will make people scared. This comes down to voluntary deportations. And this is always going to be a thing. This isn't cucking. This is how things are. We can apply different incentives and pressures. And two, what we need, and this is dear to me as a California, I think I mentioned it on the previous show, is a federal version of Prop 187 which should deny non-emergency services to legal immigrants because they get these things without paying for them and that's not fair. Two, and this goes with,
[00:51:53] and the third issue going with number two is tariffs because, right, these illegals don't pay taxes. But it's cool about tariffs. People complain about how to make everything more expensive. I like that. That's a feature. That's not a bug. We want things more expensive because it's more expensive for everybody. And so there will be, again, some rough time as we do this great leap forward where we might be partially paying taxes and adjusting to tariffs and maybe hit with both at the same time. But we can eventually transition to tariffs instead of taxes.
[00:52:23] And tariffs, it doesn't matter if you're an illegal or not or you're not filing taxes, you're getting hit with higher prices. So under the current system, illegals get free stuff without paying for them. If we do a federal version of Prop 187 and switch to tariffs, they will pay for stuff but not get them. And I think this will motivate them to leave. And two, with all of these people staying home, they're going to run out of money if they're not working. And there's not enough criminal cartel activity for them to do. But this is why we really need to do a federal version of Prop 187
[00:52:53] because a lot of blue states are going to try to put these people on welfare, I think, so that they will stay here. And we cannot allow that. We have to go after these states and not allow it. And that way, once you want chipmunks to be gone, you stop feeding the chipmunks. Stop giving them free services. Make them pay via tariffs. Get the license plates. This will shoo them out. And it will work wonders. But this going door-to-door is not enough. We have to back that up. And I think once we get some momentum with voluntary mass deportations, it's going to be beautiful.
[00:53:22] It will take off. Well, ladies and gentlemen, there you have the informed and always well-delivered opinion of Mr. David Zutty. Be sure to check out and support the work of the Homeland Institute at homelandinstitute.org. David, I would give you before the movement starts and before the movement has started, the movement is in progress. Before the music starts... There are so many people that said you can't do this and you can't do that
[00:53:50] and Trump is defying them every day by doing what they said was impossible. Well, we're going to be talking about that with Mark Webber in the next hour, but it really has been a political blitzkrieg. And David, the music is playing, so about 20 seconds remain. They are yours, my friend. Until the next time we talk, what's your final message for the audience? It would be that, yes, you can just do things. And all these rhinos are going to be embarrassed because we've decisively proven that they chose to fail on purpose and that America can be a great country again. We just have to exercise
[00:54:20] our will to power. Hear, hear. How transformative have these last two weeks been? We will find out, but we will continue to process it week by week here on TPC with the very best guests in the world. David Zutty, homelandinstitute.org. Thank you, David. Have a great rest of your evening. Mark Webber is up next. Stay tuned, everybody.