[00:00:01] You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool. The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program. And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
[00:00:28] We broadcast Saturday evening, January the 25th, which fills a world away from where we were even a week ago.
[00:01:31] Just last week when we had Congressman Steve King and Lou Moore and Jared Taylor and Jason Kessler on the program, and we were thinking about some of the things that may happen after Trump was sworn in, and some of our most optimistic predictions, they have failed by a factor of many to live up to what has actually happened. I mean, what has happened has surpassed even our best hopes and dreams, even as recently as last week.
[00:02:01] Welcome to the program, January the 25th. We are live, and I am your host, James Edwards, Keith Alexander, polishing off a Chick-fil-A combo meal here. And let me just tell you, folks, the second Trump administration has gotten off to a roaring start. So much has happened this week, so much, in fact, that regular TPC guest and contributor Brad Griffin of Occidental Dissent, we had to actually call him into Memphis. That's how serious it is.
[00:02:30] And he is here with us in the studio right now. And, you know, Brad is so big, really. He travels with an entourage. He's here with his wife, his children, his mother-in-law, the legendary Linda Baum, wife of the late great Gordon Baum, Bill Lord, who goes back to George Wallace's time, working with George Wallace, not as a volunteer in the field, but, I mean, right there with him side by side. And we've got some great people. We went out to an awesome steak dinner last night.
[00:03:01] Some other friends are in town as well, long-time friends and supporters. And we had about a party of 15 last night. And we're just kind of, well, getting together and celebrating all of that, this momentum. I talked to our friends at Dixie Republic today. I talked to Steve King on the phone for an hour yesterday. And I think if there's, and a lot of other people this week, and I think if there's one common denominator, it is that there is a spirit of just total uplift right now.
[00:03:32] Much different than the feeling of complacency that normally comes after Republican wins, where we just think, well, at least now maybe we won't be put in prison for the next four years. There's actually a sense of advancement that is taking place right now, a sense of optimism so incredible that people are coming up with ideas. Listen, we spent all day together talking about ideas, brainstorming last night, some things we can do,
[00:03:58] some things through organizational help and foundational help that we are going to do. And that is palpable throughout really the people I've talked to in our listening audience. Let me just say this before we bring Brad on. We're going to skip the first break of this hour. We're going to make up. There's just too much to cover. But I think, again, you know, look, you're looking at news like Trump directing the DHS, the DOJ,
[00:04:25] and the State Department to immediately repel, repatriate, and remove illegal aliens using military aircraft to remove these people. There are roundups happening. Stephen Miller said on the news this week that there's going to be a massive scale up of these deportations in the days to come. Well, you haven't seen nothing yet. It is beginning to happen. 10,000 troops sent to the border. So given the January 6th pardons, these border proposals, talk of only two sexes, that's going to be the official policy of America now.
[00:04:54] This declared war on DEI. All of these people are out of a job in the government now. I am willing to grant, as I read in an email from someone this week with a minor bit of trepidation, the boy from Jamaica Estates, another day of our forbearing. This seems to be a new sheriff in town, a different Donald Trump, a radicalized Donald Trump. And you need to assess Donald Trump by remembering that he never said he was a white nationalist. He never pretended to be that.
[00:05:22] If you judge him compared to, you know, your A-plus candidate along those lines, you might be disappointed. You can't compare him to a hypothetical President Kevin McDonald. But if you judge him by the things that he has done since he has retaken the oath that will benefit whites, especially when compared to his opposition, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris, then he starts to look a lot better. That's the first thing to keep in mind.
[00:05:50] But I've got to tell you, the things that he has done has superseded and surpassed, I think, what we could have thought of. Frankly, what we could have thought of. And all of the things that fascinated us with Trump in 2016, most notably his position on immigration, he's actually getting it right this time. By this time in 2017, the disappointment had already began to take hold. I never imagined a president doing these things 10 years ago or even 10 days ago. Most of the people who blocked him the first time are gone.
[00:06:18] The Democrats are voting with him because they fear the rising tide of nationalism in this country will sweep them out of office. 10 years ago isn't a long time to replace a government, but it has happened to a large degree. And what we're going to do tonight is we're going to look at the things that have happened just since he was sworn back in. We're not looking at Donald Trump from 2017 to 2021. We're going to live in the present for tonight. And here's the question. Has Donald Trump taken concrete actions this week that helps white people? That is what we are using as the measuring stick.
[00:06:47] And I think the answer is a resounding and indisputable yes. Yes, he has. We are going to spend the show tonight explaining why. If you don't believe yet, we're going to try to make you believe. Now, why do you tune into this show? There's a lot of reasons, but I think one of the ones is that we see things pretty clearly. And we have had for all of these years on the air a pretty impressive track record of calling things correctly. Our record in that department isn't 100%. Nobody is, but we are better than most folks.
[00:07:14] And we are neither Trump sycophants or people who never see any good in anything he does. We try to be objective. And in being objective, I can tell you that I watched the full inaugural address. I agreed with the vast majority of what I heard. Yes, he gave lip service to blacks and Hispanics and all of these people without, you know, he seemed to forget whites. But that's Trump. He made a fleeting reference to MLK. Hey, that shouldn't be done. The black preacher who prayed during the benediction put on a full minstrel show and was rhyming and doing all of that as they like to do.
[00:07:45] But, but, so you can pick at that if you want to. But I agreed with nine out of ten things that I heard. And, you know, for the people who complained that he didn't mention whites, I mean, the fact is that he reversed this executive order that LBJ put in on affirmative action. This Obama order renamed Mount McKinley, he didn't rename it, Dr. Martin Luther King Mountain, as you say. And I think that speaks some volumes. Sometimes you just let somebody do something for you.
[00:08:14] Now let's move on from rhetoric to the actual policy. The official policy of the government, there's only two genders now, male and female. I like the repeal of the DEI, as I mentioned, the support for free speech. It's reinstating back pay to military personnel who were fired for their refusal to take the COVID vaccine. The external revenue service, tariffs, restoring the name of Mount McKinley, as we mentioned, taking back the Panama Canal, deportations. The 14th Amendment thing that's going to go to the Supreme Court. And I think you can win there. These are massive wins, massive.
[00:08:43] Declaring Mexican cartels as terrorist organizations. I mean, that's certainly better than going after white activists like Merrick Garland, Doge, Drill, Drill, Drill. All of this, all of it is good for white people. Now, if it does come to pass that this was all an elaborate scam to get whites to fight in a war for Israel, then I will be wrong. But in 21 years as a public commentator, I have been wrong very seldomly. And I hope I'm not wrong about that, but I don't think that I will be. I don't think that I will be.
[00:09:11] So, again, in closing, before I toss it over to Brother Brad, have things that have happened this week helped our people? Would any other president have done this? Mitt Romney, John McCain, Jeb Bush? I don't think so. And as Brad wrote at OccidentalDissent.com this week, it's going to take us, there's been a year's worth of news in four days. It's going to take us several days and for us several weeks of shows to dig out from all of this news. But here, as promised, is Brad Griffin to help us do just that.
[00:09:39] Brad, you have compiled these things. The OccidentalDissent.com website has actually been smoking. I go to it and I just smoke starts to billow out because you've been typing so much and posting so much. There's so much to cover. Where do you even begin? As you put it, he's done a political blitzkrieg. The left is on their heels and he is hitting them in so many different spots that if they even were to mount a resistance, where would they begin? Brad, what has happened this week? I mean, you just literally took the word out of my mouth.
[00:10:06] It's a blitzkrieg and it's something we have never, I mean, it's not unusual for a president to come into office and sign a bunch of executive orders. But I looked back at 2017 and I want to say on his first day in office, he did one and it was something about the Affordable Care Act. And then he comes into office this week and in four or five days, we have a year's, six months to a year's worth of news to unpack.
[00:10:34] There's all kinds of, you didn't even mention the biggest thing. Pardoning virtually all of the January 6th protesters, right? And even before he came into office, he was, you know, quelling the war in Lebanon, quelling the war in Gaza. And there's already news he's working on the war in Ukraine. And the one that really just took me back is he's going to put his Middle East envoy, Steve Whitcoff, in charge of Iran policy.
[00:11:03] So, I mean, and the idea there is to negotiate a new nuclear deal. Now, that one really, I mean, we had expectations for Trump and we knew he would do a lot of it. Like we knew he would come in. We knew he would rebuild the border wall. We knew that was a given. He would authorize that. We knew that he would reinstate, remain in Mexico. We knew he would do basic things like on energy, like with the Keystone Pipeline or abortion rights.
[00:11:32] There's some policies that always flip back, back and forth between presidents, you know, Republican, Democrat. All that's normal. But, I mean, what he did this week went above and beyond even the most wildest, you know, Trump stand, optimistic. He'll come in and do this. I mean, I was positive about Trump, but I was just taken aback by the sheer breadth of the subjects he tackled. Let me say something very quickly and bring you right back into this.
[00:12:01] You mentioned J6. I mean, again, one of the most obvious and glaring, we were talking with Steve King and Lou Moore about that very topic. And they were both saying he needs to pardon them all. But I don't know if you will. He did pardon them all. And then even people, and I say even, I don't have a problem with these people, but the black white supremacist from the Proud Boys, you know, that guy that they call him a white supremacist. He was doing 22 years. He's out. Stuart Rhodes of the Oath Keepers.
[00:12:26] So even the ones that he was doing 18 years, even the ones that could have gotten Trump some blowback, the press has been so neutered. Nothing matters. The Camp Auschwitz guy who was wearing the Camp Auschwitz shirt. All of those groopers. He didn't leave anybody behind. All of them, 100%. I knew he would pardon. My expectations was that, yes, he would pardon some of the J6 protesters, and they would do it on a case-by-case basis. They would blanket. And he would go over the course of a year.
[00:12:54] And even then, not all of them would be released. But, no, he went on the first day. He was signing that EO in the Oval Office, and they asked him twice just to make sure they got it right. He said, blanket pardons, full pardons. You know, boom. And he's just coming in here as if someone who has been radicalized by everything he's been put through the last four years. And I don't know who was putting together his agenda. I'm sure he had a hand in it, you know, to be sure. But who was putting together this plan of attack that we're just going to throw everything at them on the first day.
[00:13:24] But whoever, if it was Stephen Miller or whoever it was that came up with all of these plans and they targeted each of these executive orders, I mean, there was a lot of research and preparation in getting all this put together. That didn't just randomly happen. Somebody put together a masterful plan of attack. Yes, you're absolutely right. That is a huge difference. When he first came in the first time, he acted like he didn't. He was turning to people who were experienced, like Reitz Priebus, leaning on GOP people. He didn't really know what to do.
[00:13:52] He did the Muslim ban, and it caused the fiasco. And he was very inexperienced. But this time he came in, and it was just a methodical plan of attack. It was so well executed, and it hit. I can't think of one executive order. Maybe there is one out of all the ones there were that I disagreed with. But did you see any that you disagreed with? Well, yeah, there's some stuff in there, like about Israel.
[00:14:18] I think he – there was one about, like, deporting foreign students who are sympathetic to Hamas or something. All right. There might be some. And I saw that foreign aid was effectively ended for every country that's receiving it except for two. Israel's one. And people say, ah, see, I told you so. Well, of course the Jews are going to get concessions. They put so much money into his campaign. Well, the big one was Ukraine. Ukraine has gone. The other one is Egypt. Egypt. Egypt – what is it, the Egyptian lobby?
[00:14:48] That's the one you've got to look out for. I mean, the amount of money we've spent on Ukraine in the last two years, dwarfs like everything else. That's what was – So that's gone, you know, at least for now. And so mentioning this, I've got to say this. There's just been such a palpable energy from so many people I've talked to since last week's show that is just sort of – not because we're necessarily Trump fans demand, but if you look at what he's done, I don't see how you could be disappointed.
[00:15:15] I want to ask you about that next, Brad, and then we're bringing Keith Alexander. Chick-fil-A is in the – it is done. And it has been eaten. But the – I would say this very quickly. So we're going to do two hours with Brad and friends tonight, old members from the Council of Conservative Citizens. They'll be with us in the third hour, Brad with us in the first and third hour. And in the second hour, coming up next, we're going to sort of spread it out a little bit tonight. Brad in the first and third hour with Kyle Rogers.
[00:15:44] He's here in the room with us now. Old friends and old faces from battles past. But in the second hour, we're going to have one of these J6 – former J6 prisoners. His name is Christian Sikor, and he's written a book about his experience that has been published by Antelope Hill. And you can find it there at antelopehill.com. It's called The American Regime.
[00:16:09] But he was a very – his case was widely covered. Tucker Carlson covered it at least twice. Christian Sikor actually made it into the Capitol with a flag, and he sat in Mike Pence's chair, and they really went after him. And they gave him three and a half years in prison. And we will hear from him directly in the second hour. He's going to tell us his full story.
[00:16:36] And I pre-interviewed him this week because we're doing a feature in the American Free Press with him as well. And he was so smart. And his vision and his determination were so inspiring. And I'm thinking if this is what we've got coming, if this is what those actions led to – and he said he got radicalized. You know, he was radicalized by the experience in a way. But if this is what has happened, that all of this that everybody had gone through turned them into activists like this,
[00:17:05] then there is no chance for the left. And when you hear him in the second hour, you'll know what I was talking about. One more thing and then to Keith. But, Brad, there's so much going on that even the states are being emboldened now. The state of Mississippi has – tell them about that, Brad. We'll toss it over to Keith. Yeah, I mean, we heard the news story about Mississippi. I think it was – it was going to offer $1,000 bounties for people who go like and tackle and arrest like illegal aliens.
[00:17:31] And in Florida, I know DeSantis is rolling out this big thing where DeSantis aspires to be the top deporting governor in the country. So what Trump has done is he set a new bar, and people who want to succeed him and follow him are going to be judged by their deportation numbers, like how successful they were. It's just setting a new bar. It's – Yeah, let me tell you that thank God for the people of Mississippi.
[00:18:00] I tell you what, they're always going to lead the pack, right? I see David here putting your fingers up. Basically what they're going to do, they're going to make these – they're granting a bounty of $1,000 per illegal alien that you can turn in, verify, put the police on.
[00:18:21] And if that doesn't – you know, if – I can just see a new movie with Clint Eastwood back from – you know, that's what he did in those early Spaghetti Westerns. He was always a bounty hunter. Well, they have outdone themselves. In fact, you know, it was the attorney general for DeSoto County, which is a county adjacent to Memphis and to Tennessee and where we are, that did this. And he basically got their representative in the state legislature to sponsor this legislation.
[00:18:51] So that's great. But, you know, in a bigger sense, there are a lot of people around here. I'm looking at one of them right now. Now, I'm not going to mention his name unless he tells me to. But, you know, people from the old days, basically the right has been back on their heels ever since Brown versus Board of Education. It looks like we've finally turned the thing around. We've turned the corner. And we are taking the offensive now. And, I mean, we're battering the left. The left doesn't know what to say about all this. And it's incredible.
[00:19:21] And it is something we've been waiting for all of our lives. And I'm not a youngster, folks. Yeah. I mean, I'm not exactly a youngster either. I've been in this for 25 years. And I've never – for 25 years, I've never once seen a week where I'm, like, just stunned. I know. We came in like Hurricane Carter, man. I mean, we're just battering them. They have no idea what to do. They've never seen an offensive like this mounted against them.
[00:19:50] Well, Brad, another thing – well, you compiled the list par excellence at occidentaldescent.com. I mean, there's like 30 things, over 30 things. That was just the first day. There's been more. Oh, and it's all good. We won't even try to rattle them all off just by headline. But, I mean, we've covered some of them already. But the thing that you mentioned, which could be a far more significant development, is the – and I'm quoting you directly here, Brad.
[00:20:18] Normally I quote you when you're not on, but now I'll just quote you while you're sitting here with me. But the significant development is the vulnerable swing state Democrats surrendered on immigration and voted – you had Senate Democrats voting to pass the Lake and Riley Act. On the first day, immigration legislation uncoupled to amnesty for illegal aliens is clearing the filibuster in the Senate. And as you wrote, and this is something people need to remember, normally the House passes these bills to throw red meat at the base, which the opposing party predictably kills in the Senate with the filibuster.
[00:20:47] But now the gridlock in the Senate due to partisan polarization is why nothing ever gets done except for these huge budget reconciliation bills. But now the Senate seems to be changing on immigration, so no longer a graveyard of legislation. Democrats are helping to pass Trump's vision. And the reason is because they will not be reelected in these swing states. And the popularity of Trump, he's plus six, he's surging, and there is just a will to power. Say what you will.
[00:21:16] We can all focus on the negatives if we want to. The will to – the sheer will to power that he had is a textbook case. And let me address that. That is – I remember – I know you – we talked about this last year. I came on Political Assessable, and I wrote a bunch of articles about what I thought Trump would do. And it never – I was – I never would have believed that he would have succeeded in breaking polarization in the Senate,
[00:21:45] where the Democrats would be so shook on immigration that they wouldn't – swing state Democrats would not put up a fight – not executive orders, because executive orders can be issued and, you know, that will go to court, and some of them will get struck down and there will be a legal fight. But to actually break the logjam of polarization on immigration and actually get legislation through the Senate in your first week,
[00:22:09] because they are so scared of how damaged they were by the immigration message. And it wasn't – if I'm not mistaken, it was all the swing state Democrats, Nevada, Georgia, Michigan. Fetterman – Fetterman voted for it, I want to say. Wisconsin. Kevin, Fetterman was actually going – Yes. Yes. I mean – He's a wild card in the deck, I believe. I mean –
[00:22:40] I mean, there were people who were bullish on Trump, but no one was that optimistic, and it happened. And he's going to sign that. He might have already signed it tonight. I haven't even looked. Well, the thing that I found most impressive just recently is that Hedgepoth got through. Got through on a split vote with the vice president voting for him. He is now the Defense – Department of Defense Secretary.
[00:23:05] Now, I have some misgivings about him, but that was going to be one of his hardest sells. And he – I mean, he got it. He slam-dunked it on the first day. And I think that really is – it bodes very well for the prospects of Tulsi Gabbard and Robert RFK Jr. getting through there. And if they do, I mean, we're looking at real change, folks. What I would like to see him do – I haven't seen him do this yet, and I'd like to see this happen.
[00:23:33] And I'd like to see him go after all of the people, the BLM people down in Portland and Seattle and San Francisco, people like that, that actually did commit crimes. They didn't just exercise their First Amendment rights. And go after them with the same or even more ferocity than Biden went after the January 6th protesters. Well, Keith, I mean, speaking – I mean, we've gone across the map, but I mean, you nailed it right there.
[00:24:01] We have – according to these people, you know, Kamala Harris actually said in the campaign if Trump won, we would be in fascism, right, that Trump was Hitler. Well, you know, all the anti-fascists have certainly been quiet. This inauguration was very different from the one I was personally at in Washington in 2017 when hundreds of them showed up. We talked about this last week, yeah. Hundreds of them showed up and they arrested. They all got off scot-free, but they haven't, you know, showed their face. They've got the tail tucked between the legs.
[00:24:30] So much more to come tonight with Brad Griffin, Keith Alexander, our friends from the old Council of Conservative Citizens, the great Bill Lord, Linda Baum, Kyle Rogers are here tonight. If we can get – the council's revenge is at hand. We'll be right back. Protecting your liberties. You're listening to Liberty News Radio.
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[00:30:42] Yes, we are playing Donald Trump's fight song, his fight anthem on YMCA in the first hour. Now, we're not celebrating the disappointments of yesteryear or what may come tomorrow. I cannot forecast him sending people to war for Israel. I cannot forecast him putting us in prison for hate speech or any of the fears. I don't want to say the word fear. Any of the concerns that we may have where this thing could all go sideways.
[00:31:09] If and when that day comes, then I will own that. I will say, you know what? It just didn't work out the way it looked like it might. But all we can go by is what has actually happened, not what may happen, not what may go wrong. What has actually happened and what has actually happened in the last week hasn't been good for White. So, Brad, I've got to ask you. I mean, you see, you know, some of our friends, there are very good people, many of them much smarter than I, who are still very skeptical about this whole thing.
[00:31:34] I would think the majority, the vast majority of our audience is probably in agreement with us, maybe not to quite the enthusiastic level that we are, but maybe even more so. I don't know. I talked to Paul, you know, to Mansa Jolly over at Dixie Republic today, and he said all the Jolly boys, all the Southern nationalists are on cloud nine. So I don't know. But the question is, two questions, and I've got to get something to you and the Lord over here.
[00:32:02] But is it good for White people? And for the White activists who can find no good in anything that's happened this week, how do you respond to that? That's a real challenge. I don't see, like, anything that's gone wrong this week. I mean, I know Israel is the major concern, but if we just look at Israel, look what's happened.
[00:32:27] Even before Trump was inaugurated, the day before, the war in Gaza is temporarily over, ceasefire, temporarily over. The one in, even before the year began, Lebanon quieted down. Now, that's probably, you know, also. Well, they're never going to stop fighting over there until Christ comes back. We know that. A ceasefire isn't a permanent end, but, like, things quieted down on both of those fronts.
[00:32:53] And then the most surprising thing of all is when, after Trump got all the praise for the Gaza thing, you know, he's putting Whitcoff, of all people, in charge of Iran and wants to negotiate. Now, if you would have told me even two months ago that Donald Trump would float the idea of negotiating a new nuclear deal with Iran and just punting Iran and trying to forget about Iran, not antagonizing Iran after 10 years of this,
[00:33:23] and especially after what's happened in the Biden administration, I would have said you're crazy. But I guess he's got – I really do think he's got more important things going on this time. Well, as you said, and to go back to this, the Democrats are so traumatized from their defeat in the 2024 election, which they rightly attribute to their position on immigration, that they aren't even putting up a fight right now. I mean, there is no left. The media has no voice now.
[00:33:46] I saw some, you know, article about Trump, how this is going to hurt blacks to repeal all the affirmative action and DEI stuff, and it just seems so weak and pathetic now, far from being, you know, the venomous media that could hurt you. It just looks like a cat's meow now, and nobody takes it seriously. And you said, Brad – and look, you've been in this all your adult life. I have too. We've got people in here that have been in it a lot longer in the room tonight.
[00:34:11] But I think we can judge the political playing field fairly well. And when you look at it right now, you survey it. We've had some dark years. Hey, I mean, let's just say Buchanan had ever been elected president. He couldn't have gotten done any of this stuff. I mean, because he would have been – the timing wasn't right. He would have had these recalcitrant neocons and Democrats. I mean, it just – Trump is doing things now that we've always fantasized about.
[00:34:40] Now, before we go back to Keith, and I've got something for Keith and Bill. This was another good point you had. Make America great again. What does that mean? When was America great? You think that Trump's giving us an answer on that this week? Oh, definitely. Trump has unquestionably, you know, made it to the point that – the time he – he said it repeatedly himself. When he sees America was great was at the end of the 19th century when William McKinley was president. The last time it was great, yeah. Yeah, before the progressive era.
[00:35:10] And I even wrote an article about that. It's like if you look at it through Donald Trump's eyes, right? He's not a Southerner. You know, we Southerners, we might like – when was America great? Oh, back in the Old South when everybody was sipping the mint julep on the plantation. And that would be true, too. That would be true, too. But if you're a New Yorker like Trump, you might look back at the time of the Vanderbilts, the Carnegies, when, you know, electricity was coming on in New York City. It was just an exciting, dynamic time to be there.
[00:35:38] And that's the era he romanticizes. Well, I think he's absolutely right, Brad, because, you know, the way I look at it, 1913 was the year that everything changed. Woodrow Wilson was elected the first – well, he was the only one except for Grover Cleveland between the end of the Civil War and 1912 election. Yeah. And he basically did it through some Jewish connivance where they basically talked Teddy Roosevelt into running against the Republican.
[00:36:08] And Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose Party actually came in second in 1912. But under Woodrow Wilson, we had the Federal Reserve. We had the 17th Amendment taking basically the last bit of sovereignty away from the states. We got set up to get into World War I and fight wars that we had no business in fighting.
[00:36:29] You know, we were so perfectly situated, and it stayed that way since the founding of the republic, protected by two large moats called the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean and the polar ice camp. There's no reason for us to get involved in any foreign war, but that all started in 1912. And he's right. William McKinley, I guess the fateful day was when we got involved in the Spanish-American War. But, you know, I think Trump is right.
[00:36:56] That was the zenith of our power, and our power came from just taking a pass on all these foreign entanglements that George Washington and whatnot warned us against. And we need to get back to that. And I think Trump senses that somehow. I mean, another element of it is that was the last time the wealthy white Protestants, you know, really controlled the country. And it was really— That's right. The Jews started coming over in the second great wave of immigration starting in the 1890s.
[00:37:25] They were here, but they weren't the elite yet. I know, but they took over Hollywood. They did all this stuff in the 19-teens. And basically, they supplanted the old Yankee wasp elite that we had before. And it's never been the same. But, you know, I— That's—and that's one of the things I think that's one of the most striking changes is we can talk about Elon and his specific— His role in this, giving $250 million to Trump. All right. Well, this is a question, actually.
[00:37:55] Okay, and this goes back to Jewish power and influence. And I'd love to get your take on this. Thank you for bringing that up. So Kevin MacDonald's theory is that—just to boil it down to one sentence—is that the evolutionary behavioral psychology of Jews makes them hardwired to be in constant conflict with their host population. So for argument's sake, let's just accept that. And I think—for argument's sake, let's just accept that as fact for the purposes of this conversation. So you've got that elite on one side.
[00:38:24] And then you've got this tech bro elite that seems to be displacing them, Brad, on some levels, on many levels. Some of the tech bros are Jewish. Well, I get that. I get that. But their primary goal, the ones that aren't, is to make as much money as they can. And they're not necessarily biologically engineered to oppose—yeah, Zuckerberg, of course, is both. But they're not—the ones who are Gentiles are not necessarily, like Musk, biologically engineered to oppose the founding stock.
[00:38:51] So, you know, of course, sure, they'll go with whatever side is winning if it benefits their bottom line. But between the two, who would you rather be on top? So, you know, of course, the Jewish lobby is, of course, going to get concessions from Trump. If you're waiting, you know, for the first time, Trump does something subservient to Jewish power, you're not going to have to wait too long. But I'm more interested in the forecast. Is their power, Brad, beginning to wane? They're still highly organized. They're funded beyond our wildest imaginations. I get all of that.
[00:39:20] But have they passed the high-water market? Between the two, would you either have titans of industry who will trim their sails to whatever side is winning or people who are biologically hardwired to be in opposition to you until the bitter end? Yes. I mean, you already know my opinion on it. And it is, yes, we are actually, I think, I think their power piqued a long time ago in the era of, you know, the television and the SPLC and the ADL were at their height. And they're really starting to come down.
[00:39:46] And one scenario I think, I think we lack the imagination to see it, but it's clearly evident now, is that we've had many elites in American history. Our own ancestors were the great plantation owners. And if you look back at the 19th century, you can interpret the whole Civil War era as our ancestors were on the way down, losing out to these new industrial tech barons, what they were at the time.
[00:40:12] And the people who won the Civil War, as I repeatedly stress on my website, were the railroads. And it seems to me that that's what's happening, again, in that the richest people in the country are all in tech, whether it's even if they are Jewish, whether I think Ellison and Zuckerberg are the two who are Jewish, who are the richest. But it's also Bezos. It's also Musk. It's other people. And they're all in tech.
[00:40:41] And this has been the story of the year, is the absolute ascendance of tech in terms of money, wealth, power in Washington. And how would the Jewish elite ever go down? Somebody would come up with another industry and would make more money than them. They'd take it over. And, yeah, they're not as – George Soros isn't as wealthy as Elon. And that's what – that's how I see it ending.
[00:41:08] I like the way that James said, you know, who's on top. It used to be the Jews. Now it may be instead the tech bros. Yeah, the tech. But one thing that doesn't change is who's on the bottom, and that's us. Why, Gentiles? I mean, if we want to be honest – We're better off now than we were a week ago. And if we're going – like, I'm blessed – and I've said this. I'm a lot less concerned about a war with Iran than I am with – you've seen it ever since artificial intelligence. Look, look, two questions.
[00:41:37] Are you concerned that they have outmaneuvered us again? And I'm not mocking this. I am not mocking this at all. This is a very – there is very much a possibility that this could be true. I don't think it is. But if it happened, I wouldn't be entirely shocked either. They have outmaneuvered us again. They have reinstalled Trump because they know that's the only way they can get in a war for Israel. Do you believe that? No. All right, next question. Question, Trump will sign legislation that will criminalize so-called anti-Semitism.
[00:42:10] You're talking about the thing that passed the House last year under Biden. I haven't seen the status of that. I think he would on college campuses. But I don't know what the status of this is. This is a new Congress. Does that apply to Occidental dissent and depolitical cessation? Probably. You know, these leftists aren't our friends anyways. If they get them for that, they get them for anything. Just get them out. That is a possibility, but we'll see.
[00:42:33] We just can't let that genie out of the bottle because, quite frankly, they will come after us if they have anything that arguably does it. Well – You know, puts us in the crosshairs. But would they? I mean, would this Justice Department? I'm not quite as sure as Merrick Garland. You know, if Merrick Garland hadn't been so busy trying to kill Trump or put him in prison, they would have come after us the last four years. I do believe that. Oh, yes. Trump – if Trump had decided not to run again or just laid down and let him steamroll him, I think they would have spent the last four years coming after us.
[00:43:03] Do you agree with that? Oh, yeah. But they spent all their time battling Trump who killed him. He beat him. Right, right. They really overstepped their bounds. I'm not really worried about Trump's federal government coming after us. I'm not. Well, the thing is that I think that our people, you know, we are – Shellshocked. Well, we're shell shocked. We don't know what to do with it. And Trump was the only person in the entire world that could have pulled this off. He had the celebrity. He had the disposition.
[00:43:33] And he had the wealth. And he just – you know, basically you just make him mad when you oppose him. You know, he doesn't fold like a cardboard outhouse in a hailstorm like so many people would. And, you know, he's really the only person that could have pulled this off. So whatever his shortcomings are, you know, it's better that he won than he lost. And quite frankly, this is the most – in a bullion I feel the ride has been in my lifetime. Yes.
[00:44:03] Yeah, me and James were talking about this earlier. We've been underground effectively since the 90s. We're like a zombie movie where the hand comes out of the soil. That's where we're at right now. We're not nearly where we need to be. And there's a lot of problems, Brad. I mean, as I said last week with King and Lou Moore and Jared, you know, if you look at the – you Google Canada total population or Germany total population or Russia total population or whatever white country total population. It will give you the total population.
[00:44:32] And then it will give you the birth rate. And it is all below 2.0. I didn't even see one that was 1.9. So we've got a lot of problems. We're not out of the woods by a damn sight. But there are some things that have sort of buoyed us here. And I'll give you a couple of more. Trump to begin large-scale deportations, which has happened. That's the Wall Street Journal. This is it. Trump ran for president on a bold promise to carry out the largest mass deportation in the United States history.
[00:45:02] Tom Homan, the administration's incoming border czar, appeared to preview the operation during a visit to Chicago last month. Quote, we're starting right here in Chicago, Illinois. End quote. Listen to this, folks. And if the Chicago mayor doesn't want to help, he can step aside. But if he impedes us and if he knowingly harbors or conceals an illegal alien, I will prosecute him. Tom Homan seems to be the real deal.
[00:45:30] And I like how the media responded to this. If the intent is to instill a sense of terror and persecution, that's what the Trump administration is doing very well. Well, good. Good. Good. Good. And how about this one? This is for Keith and Bill Lord, our elder statesmen here tonight. And I've got to say this. And I want to say it on the air, and I want to say it while I'm looking at him. It's an honor to be in the room with you, Bill. I appreciate everything you have done. Yeah, please.
[00:45:58] With all those private schools that you helped set up in the South going back how many years? Back in the 60s. Setting up private schools to give our kids a chance to learn without fear of being beaten down or raped or accosted. Let's just do a minute on this. Comment on Bill Lord, Keith. Bill Lord is a true hero, okay? He's the guy that put his money where his mouth is and all his efforts.
[00:46:26] When they integrated the schools through Brown v. Board of Education, what they did basically was they brought down our birth rate. Because the only alternative for white people living in places like the Mississippi Delta, where they were outnumbered greatly, was private schools. You know, back then there was no such thing as homeschooling. If you tried to keep your kid out of the schools, they probably would have arrested you, okay? The authorities would have.
[00:46:56] So he came up and gave us an alternative. I think he developed about 12 of these so-called segregation academies. Most of them are still alive and kicking today. Put him right down the road. Yeah, and to tell you the truth, if it were not for those schools, I don't know what would have happened to the white kids in places like Greenwood, Mississippi, or Fayette County, Tennessee. Yeah, I don't know about Memphis. Oh, yeah, all of them. What about Briarcrest? Yeah, all of these places. You know, it's just you had to have an alternative.
[00:47:25] And that's why, for example, the white birth rate. You were talking about the white birth rate being so low? That's what happened in America. Basically, white people, particularly white working class people, had to limit the size of their families to the number of children they could send to a private school. If they lived in a black area. And Bill is the one that sent out the lifeline, and God bless him. He did a wonderful job. He is exactly twice my age. He looks better, and he's in better shape.
[00:47:58] So, but nevertheless, it's an honor to always be in a room. We go back a lot of years together, those old council meetings and so many good times. And Bill was always the life of the party. But I got a story here. I said all that to say this. Here's a story from Politico, the odious Politico. The headline reads, National Guard troops worry Trump will deploy them for mass deportations. And here's the sub-headline, there's not much a blue state can do to stop the president from federalizing their National Guard.
[00:48:26] Now, how about that? How about that? Isn't that a change from the 60s where Kennedy and Johnson were federalizing the state guards or the National Guards to work for the forces of darkness? Now, you know, Trump very well federalized. You know, could you imagine federalizing the California, you know, Guard, National Guard to go in there and get – and it could happen. I mean, what do you think about that, Brad?
[00:48:51] Oh, I mean, you know, the guys who are, you know, extremely black-filled, there was a really – looks like it was going to be a really challenging four years. Put Gavin Newsom in the situation of being Ross Barnett back in 1962. It would be great. But even they didn't necessarily say they would arrest George Wallace. And Bill is another guy who knew Wallace and worked with Wallace, but, you know, in the flesh. But, I mean, now you've got the Trump – you know, Tom Homan saying, I will arrest the Chicago mayor.
[00:49:20] It's about as good as it gets. You know, I mean, that's the – How could you not see this as a good thing? Yeah, that's the Overton window, like, stretching beyond – The Overton double door. Yeah. All right, Brad. I want to give you – so here's what's coming up, folks. Here's what's coming up. I could do this all night long. In the next hour, we have Christian Sikor, an actual J6 hostage.
[00:49:49] He went to prison, and he will tell you about his time in prison. I pre-interviewed this guy this week. I told you this earlier, and I was so impressed. I wasn't just impressed. I was inspired. He actually made me believe that our future victory is just a matter of time. And I hope that he can convey that to the audience tonight. I think that he will. If what we can do on the radio tonight is half as good as what we did earlier this week, he's going to impress you. He's going to inspire you, and it's coming up.
[00:50:19] And this is the guy who's paid the price. I love people who've paid a price. I love people who've taken a stand. Everybody in this room has taken a stand. Everybody in this room has been beaten down time and time and time again, and we are still here. And, Brad, you're still here. And Keith and Bill and Kyle and Linda and David, and we're all here tonight. It's been a long road and a lot of lumps. The last three minutes, my friend, are yours. OccidentalDissent.com. I am there. That is not a daily read. That is a multiple daily read.
[00:50:48] So anything we haven't covered this hour that you wanted to touch on, two minutes, then we're going to go to Christian Sikor, talk about J6, and then Brad will be back with us in the third hour. Go, Brad. Yeah. We'll return to what we were talking about earlier this afternoon. What would it be like to not be underground for the first time in two or three decades? Are we there? Are we there? That's the question. We'll know more six months from now. Now, we were talking about 2017 and how people were really enthusiastic about Trump, and that's why Unite the Right happened.
[00:51:18] And there was an energy of, you know, to come out, to come out from the underground. And that's what happened prematurely in 2017. But we'll see if there – six months from now, we'll know if there has been. We'll know more next week. I mean, this whole thing could turn next week. It could turn tomorrow. But right now, right now, we're living in the present moment. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. But let's be hopeful. No, no. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. And let's not say that the next four years are going to be, you know,
[00:51:44] that many more years of what we've seen the last six days. But we understand that. But tonight, Brad, are we being overly exuberant based upon what has happened since Monday? No. And only that. No, no. This is the appropriate reaction to something happening well beyond our expectations. We should be happy, I think. I think so. We should be celebrating. I think so. And I think that opinion coming from you, coming from Keith, coming from Bill, coming from Linda, coming from Kyle, people who have been in the trenches all of these years.
[00:52:14] We've seen a lot. When you – The lows. We've seen the lows of – When this collective can say that, the council has taken so many hits. The council out there almost standing alone for so many years. When people that have been through all those fights can say, you know, this is what I feel and I'm feeling it too. Keith, 30 seconds. We basically have turned the thing around. And what turned it around from the days of the council and their predecessors, the White Citizens Council, is the Internet. The Internet gave us a voice.
[00:52:45] And they have plenty of people – Give a pause for Kyle. That's it. Right. But see, this is what did it. All we had to do was get something like an equivalent of a level playing field, and our ideas carried the day. And this is bearing fruit now with the Trump election. I got one thing. Kyle Rogers is going to be on the program in the third hour,
[00:53:11] but I got to give Kyle some credit on January 20th. They call it a certain day on the calendar. Kyle put a thing up saying today is Robert E. Lee Day, and it got like 8 million views on Twitter. It had a picture of – you know, from Gettysburg, the movie Gettysburg, where Martin Sheen plays Robert E. Lee, and he's on his horse. And he's – That's one metric that we want to do. 8 million views. Are we back? Are we? We might. Are we so back? Or are we just back for a few days?
[00:53:40] Are we about to jump off the deep end, or are we – I don't want to be – I don't want to go too far and say, you know, it's over. There are a lot of problems. And Trump is not the answer. I mean, the answer is an ethnostate. You're not going to be able to live with – in a Tower of Babel, even though it's been a good week. And you're not going to be able to survive with our birth rates being below replacement level. We got a lot of problems still, but it's been a good week. And we will celebrate that tonight, and we will continue to celebrate it in the third hour. But got to take a break.
[00:54:08] We're going to have a J6 hostage, Christian Sikor. Tucker Carlson covered his case twice. And, Keith, if you can say it in 10 seconds, the music's playing. Well, let's do this Civil War analogy. Like General Forrest, we've certainly put the skier in the left. All right. Well, listen, we will continue tonight from Memphis with an entourage. Our dear friends from the Council of Conservative Citizens of years past
[00:54:36] and many generations represented here tonight. There are many, many decades, anyway. Christian Sikor up next.