[00:00:01] You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool. The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program. And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
[00:00:28] What a show we have for you tonight, ladies and gentlemen. This Saturday evening, January the 18th, it is bitterly cold in parts of America, and it's going to be even colder in the days to come, but we are keeping you red hot right here on these airwaves, and that continues, our fast start to the year continues right now.
[00:00:53] It is Inauguration Day weekend, if that's a thing. Inauguration Day is on Monday, that much I know, and we're going to take full advantage of one last chance to express our hopes and concerns before the incoming administration begins its work in the coming days. We're going to do that with an all-star lineup of guests tonight. More on that in just a moment. It's really a two-part series tonight and next week as well.
[00:01:19] And kicking off this series is none other than our good friend and brother Jared Taylor, editor of American Renaissance and the author of Paved with Good Intentions, White Identity, and If We Do Nothing. Jared, welcome back to the show, your first appearance of 2025. Happy New Year. We can still say that. Thank you so much, brother James. You do so much good for us. It always warms my spirit to be on your program.
[00:01:46] And here we are in the waning hours of the Biden-Kamala Harris administration. Doesn't that feel great? Well, it does. It really does. And I've got to say this as well as we kick this one off. Whenever we are together, whether we are together on the air or in person at a live broadcast that we're doing together, it is always to the credit of this program and to yours truly. But, Jared, we have been together at more places than that.
[00:02:12] In honor of this weekend, of course, my mind goes back to eight years ago. Eight years ago. Can you believe it has been that long? That's a fast eight years, that's for sure. But we were together, you and I, eight years ago this very weekend at a, well, an almost equally cold inauguration. Perhaps not as cold because they're canceling this one and moving it inside. But there we were eight years ago, Jared, watching Donald Trump be sworn in for the first time.
[00:02:40] And that would lead me to my first question for you. And that is, is the overall position of the founding stock of this country, Heritage Americans, as our friend Peter Brimelow would put it, or whites as I call them, are we better off today than we were that weekend eight years ago when we were in Washington together? And negative balance.
[00:03:09] Eight years ago, we must have had probably, what, 20 million fewer non-whites living in the United States? And the fact that Kamala and Biden added those people, that was a terrible thing, an absolutely terrible thing. On the other hand, I have never felt more optimistic about the chances of white people waking up.
[00:03:34] And although you certainly cannot say that there are genuinely racially conscious white people in the incoming administration, at least they are infinitely better than anything, anything that a President Harris would have given us. So I think that the mentality of whites is very forward-looking. More and more of us are waking up. But as every year goes by and as the country gets darker and darker,
[00:04:00] that is a challenge that is going to make any kind of solution more difficult down the road. So in terms of the number of people waking up and the kind of momentum we have and the kind of indirect encouragement, we won't get direct encouragement from the Trump administration, but at least they will be fighting some of our fires for us. That is a real advantage, and also I'm very optimistic about what's happening in Europe. So psychologically we're in a better place, and psychologically that is the first step to being physically
[00:04:28] and in terms of power in a better place. I'm going to talk about the psychology that goes into how we're feeling and how we should be feeling quite a bit this hour. And I would follow it up with this. Psychologically speaking, what has happened to the resistance? Because I can remember, of course, Jared, when we were there, we had some pretty plum seats. We had press credentials. We were probably 50 feet from the President, something like that.
[00:04:56] And we were very close to Donald Trump when he was being sworn in. But we had to walk through the unrestricted areas to get to where we were. In other words, we didn't just parachute into our seats there with the media. We had to walk through the city. We had to take the train. And, of course, there was a lot going on. There were fistfights. There were random fires. I think at least one car was set on fire.
[00:05:24] There was a lot of that. And then there was all of those disgusting women and the pink hats. And you're just not seeing that right now. So where is the resistance right now? I mean, has the left just resigned themselves to being vassals of the Trumpian era now? I think they are very, very demoralized. It's like the people who show up at American Renaissance conferences, the protesters. You know, we used to have people out there roaring and raging.
[00:05:53] You could count them by the score. Now they're down to a pitiful handful. And this time they did have a march. They didn't call it the women's march. I think they called it the march for something else. But it was tiny by comparison the first time around. And they're just demoralized. And you can understand why. And, you know, something, though, that really, on the one hand, it disgusts me.
[00:06:19] But it's just going to show you what wind veins they are. But people like Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Tim Cook, Sundar Pichar of Google, they're all going to be at the inauguration. These people are changing their tune. They are coming around. Boy, oh, boy. And, you know, Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg is the one. I just shake my head over that guy.
[00:06:45] He says the results of the recent election have led me to believe that we should be moving away from censorship. What? What? What? This is the man who first censored the president. That's right. That's right. And is he, in effect, saying, well, you know, if Kamala had won, we'd have just tightened up on censorship. God, either censorship is bad or it can stick is good. Yes, sir. I think it's exactly that.
[00:07:13] And if you will recall, and I made this point last week with a guest last week, if you will recall, I actually said this. And I've been saying this for years, but I said it in my Amron speech in 2023. I just said you will see these corporations. You will see these titans of industry. The moment where they believe that our side has more leverage than the other side, they will begin to trim their cells and become like, at least verbally like us.
[00:07:41] Now, they're not ever going to be true believers and you can't count on them for anything. But I never thought, even in those dark days 10, 20 years ago when we first started this thing, I never thought that we were as far away from a turnaround as it may have appeared. And I think now we are. I mean, at least in some ways, maybe it's flimsy. But, I mean, continue with your thought.
[00:08:08] It clearly is the case that they trim their sails to the prevailing winds. And as soon as the wind shifts, oh, boy, it's just like a flight of birds. You know, the way they'll be flying in one direction. All of a sudden, they zoom. They fly in the other direction. It is just hilarious to me.
[00:08:28] Even Bill Gates is bragging about what a fine dinner he had with Donald Trump and what a smart and engaged and energetic guy this fellow is. These people who have been just slashing him and trashing him at every opportunity, now they're lining up and saluting. Oh, golly. You know, I'm so naive sometimes. By the time you're in your 70s, you'd think you'd stop being naive. But I am sometimes under the illusion that people believe what they say.
[00:08:56] But, no, they just go where they think the money and the bucks and the prestige is all going to be. It's a sorry sight. But at least they're going in the right direction, at least for now. At least for now. And, of course, we know how temporary that can be. And they'll move back the other way, which is probably their natural inclination to begin with at any point. But it does go to show. I think the late Gordon Baum put it.
[00:09:26] And I said this recently as well, a line from Gordon Baum. They're all prostitutes. But if they're going to be prostitutes, they might as well be our prostitutes. And so I think there is some truth, some fundamental truth to that. And, well, here we are. But what permanent good can be built upon this? That is shifting sand, to be sure. That is the thing. What permanent good can be done?
[00:09:50] And I think this time, certainly, unlike eight years ago, he's coming into office with a far better understanding of how Washington works. And the people that he has appointed are real wreckers of the current state of affairs. Unlike, you know, he didn't have experience eight years ago. And he did basically what the Republicans told him to do. And they sort of staffed things for him and said, this guy's good, this guy's good.
[00:10:18] No, this time he's picking his own guys. And, you know, it looks like there's only one affirmative action guy on the team. And that's housing and urban development. He's a former football player. And he's a pastor and a professional mentor. His only real qualification seems to be that he's black. This is Scott Turner for housing and urban development. But as far as I can tell, he is the one black face that's so far been appointed. Everybody else looks pretty white to me.
[00:10:45] And, of course, you know, well, and I think these are people who are on his side and, by and large, on our side. And we're going to see real changes. All right. That is the topic of the entire program tonight, this week and next. We're going to take a quick break. God tells us in Hebrews 10, 25 that we should gather together to worship him. This isn't a request. It is a command. Going to church isn't an option. It is your Christian duty.
[00:11:11] With the hellish apostasy of mainstream churches, attending church these days can be difficult. That is why your King James only traditional services in the ancient church of St. Mary Magdalene are live online. And I invite you to gather with our congregation to study God's Holy Word. Join us every Sunday at thetemplarchurch.com. And especially on the first Sunday of the month for Holy Communion.
[00:11:38] This do in remembrance of me is also a command that all Christians must obey. I'm Reverend Jim Dowson, ordained Puritan minister, nationalist and a veteran pro-life campaigner. Tune in to my weekly sermons at thetemplarchurch.com. Based in Ireland, this old-time religion is the faith that built America. God bless you. Refer to the listening ear.
[00:12:07] Listening professionals dedicated to hearing you. Hello, listening ear. Who am I listening to? Um, Carrie, but I was calling my mom. Yes, you were, but your mom was so busy she felt it was important for you to have someone who could completely focus on listening to you and you alone. So she subscribed to our service. Go ahead. I'm listening. Well, I'm not quite sure. Where to start? Well, I can listen to school issues like science projects. I can listen to boy problems, although that's an extra $3 per call because of the emotional drain on me.
[00:12:36] How about we start with how you wish you had made Cheerleader? I didn't try out for Cheerleader. Uh, this isn't, uh, Mary? Carrie. I'm Carrie. Oh, oh, sorry. There is no substitute for a loving parent. And when you really listen, love is what they'll hear. From the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. For more tips on strengthening your family, visit family.mormon.org.
[00:13:10] We are going to pick up the pace here because we have got to. There is so much more to come tonight. This week and next, we're looking at the incoming administration with people who can deliver firm opinions, informed opinions, impression analysis. We have coming up in the next hour, another one of Jared's former AMRIN speakers, Congressman Steve King, coming up in the next hour, along with Lou Moore. Next week, Congressman Steve Stockman.
[00:13:38] Congressman Stockman is supposed to be on tonight, but he ended up going to an inaugural ball tonight that his wife wanted to go to, and you know how that is. So we are going to have him on next week, and he can tell us how the inauguration was. So it will really work out better this way, in fact. But I want to thank Jared again very quickly, not only for his time tonight, but it is 2025 now. And a few years ago, a book was written, Suicide of a Superpower. Will America Survive to 2025?
[00:14:05] Well, I guess, you know, in a way, the jury's still out. It survives in a way. But we had a transcript of that interview with Pat Buchanan that we did, and it's up at amran.com tonight at the top of the blog roll. And I want to thank Jared and Mr. Wolf publicly for posting that. Jared, you're a real guy. Well, thank you for doing that interview. It was so timely, and it's such a pity we don't hear from Pat Buchanan anymore.
[00:14:29] He's really one of the few people that I've met in my life that I would say is a genuine great man. It's been a privilege to actually know him, and I'm very sorry he is walking off the stage. It's really a pity. But the time comes for all of us, for you and for me, too. But Pat's been a great, great, great man. Hopefully a little while longer. Well, interestingly, I don't know if people, and I don't want to dwell on this, but I would love to have you back at a later time to talk about this when the time comes. But we've interviewed Pat Buchanan.
[00:14:59] Pat Buchanan has interviewed you. I don't know if a lot of people know that. You appeared on Crossfire. You got a chance to do that and have dinner with him. Just fascinating stories. We won't talk about it right now, but I have loved listening to you and talking to you about that at some of our private gatherings. Anyway, so coming up in the next hour, a team-up, actually. We're going to pair Steve King and Lou Moore together.
[00:15:24] We did that with Sam Dixon and Jared Taylor when we were last in Alabama last fall, and that was a lot of fun. It's always fun when we can pair some of our favorite guests together and just let that synergy take place. But, Jared, back to – go ahead. No, by all means. I have a question for you. Sure. This is a criticism that's going to be leveled against a lot of the people that Donald Trump has appointed.
[00:15:52] And let's take, for an example, Pete Hexeth. People are saying, gosh, he's never had any administrative experience. Okay, he led men in combat. Okay, that's fine. He should have been a guest on Fox News. But he's going to be in charge of how many million men and women in this huge department? He's got no experience doing that. Now, I can't decide whether there's any validity, really, to that point of view.
[00:16:18] To me, what's important for a guy like Pete Hexeth is that he is absolutely opposed to DEI. He is absolutely opposed to anything that gets in the way of the mission. And my guess – and correct me if you have any other impression about this – the people who he needs around him are the ones that can tell him which levers to push if you want to get something done. They're people who are experienced with the bureaucracy.
[00:16:45] But if you have a guy at the top who's got the right ideas, it probably doesn't matter that he's never been the president of General Motors, he's never been a governor, or anything like that. What is your view? That's a criticism that's going to come to a lot of the people that Donald Trump has appointed. How would you reply to that yourself? Well, Jared, I appreciate that question. And it's a good one. And I have an answer. I think so many of our comrades – you and I were actually talking about this on the phone
[00:17:14] what, a week or two ago. A lot of people are just going to look for any reason to not support somebody. And if that is your goal, you will always find it. You will always be satisfied. There are reasons out there to rain on Pete Headset's parade. But at the same time, compared to what is realistically possible, not if you or I were stalking the administration, we would do things differently. I mean, we would love to see Sam Dixon in a cabinet position and people like that.
[00:17:40] But out of what we could realistically get from Donald Trump, I think to have a heterosexual white male family man in there who has actually been in combat and is against DEI and is against, I think, a lot of this females in combat and things like that, ridiculous things that shouldn't even be an issue because they are so ridiculous. But, yes, I think as a whole, what we're getting – and you can extrapolate this to include Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr.
[00:18:10] and some of the others that have been tapped – I think this is without question an upgrade on all levels and on almost all fronts. There may be some few exceptions, but I think the incoming administration, based upon what is realistically possible for us as white identitarians or white racial advocates, we are better off now than we were last year, four years ago, eight years ago, 12 years ago, 20 years ago. That's what I believe. You know, my sense of it is this.
[00:18:38] People are going to want folks who have, oh, been maybe Army secretary before or they've been some four-star admiral or general or something. But people have gotten to that point. They are already completely sold out. They got there by supporting all of the stuff that has to be slashed, gotten rid of root and branch. So you take a guy entirely outside the bureaucracy.
[00:19:04] And as I say, if he is smart and if he can judge the people who are in there with him – I mean, he'll bring some people in on his own. But like Tulsi Gabbard, as you say, these people, if they've got the right ideas, I think the bureaucracy can be made to conform as best as it can be expected to. Now, of course, that's one of the things they say about Donald Trump. You know, he had some good ideas last time he was in, but the bureaucracy thwarted him.
[00:19:33] So this is going to be a challenge to anyone. But at least if you've got a guy at the top of the pyramid who is really pointing in the right direction saying, go, go, go, go, damn it, that to me is perhaps more important than somebody who has kind of been wishy-washy and limp-wristed and gotten his way to the top by being a yes man who is not going to be going in the right direction. That's my general hope. I agree. I agree.
[00:20:01] You know, we don't want to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. And the perfect is an ethnostate. An ethnostate is what it is. You know what that is and I know what that is and our audience knows what that is. And that is still the platinum standard and that is still what we should be striving for. Donald Trump being elected doesn't change the overall trajectory that Pat Buchanan was mentioning in that book in 2011. We are still on that course. I like the fact that we're going to get apparently some deportations and I think that that will happen.
[00:20:28] But will it happen to such an extent that it reverses the 20 million that have come in since Trump's first term? You know, so again, are we just regressing back to where we were eight years ago or not regressing, but getting back to where we were and how much of a gain is that overall? So all of these things play a part. But no, I think overall I'm excited about where we are. We still do need that ethnostate and we will still work for that. But people say, well, you need experience. Pete Hegseth doesn't have experience and this, this, this.
[00:20:57] Well, Donald Trump had no electoral experience. He went straight to the presidency. He had been elected to nothing. It was I think Dwight Eisenhower was the only other president in modern history that had not been a politician but went straight to the White House. So I think we can dispense with that. But I would ask you this. With perception being the ultimate reality, this goes back to psychology. You know, we know what the perception of Donald Trump has been or at least what they tried to make it be, the mainstream media that is. And you have so much experience in the media.
[00:21:26] There are very, very few, if any, very few that have more experience in our circles in dealing with the media than you. And to see all of the ordinance that the media deployed against Trump for these last eight to ten years. And then now he's back in the White House, even in spite of all of that and the arrests and the indictments and all of that, the assassination attempts. How much credit is owed to Trump for this relatively newfound ability for our people to discuss immigration?
[00:21:54] And yes, race, real or imagined, he's been a catalyst in this. Do you agree or disagree? I certainly do agree. Now, you and I would be saying the same things just as loudly, no matter who is president. We could have had President Kamala. That would not stop you. That would not stop me. We would, if anything, redouble our efforts.
[00:22:16] But for a lot of ordinary people out there, and even for the media, the fact that the people have spoken and the people have chosen the very man that all of these media organs were telling us was a Nazi, a fascist, going to end democracy. This has really made them stop and think. And I just saw two articles recently. One was in the New York Times, and it was a series of polls.
[00:22:43] And they are reporting with obvious, shame-faced astonishment that the American people support Donald Trump's policies, whether they like him or not. And they are reporting with the American people, not just the criminals, not just the illegals that have come in during the last administration. They want to deport every single illegal in the country. So the New York Times, this is, of course, horrifying. Fifty-five percent of Americans say they want to do that.
[00:23:13] At the same time, the Washington Post had an article. It said, unlike the last time when Donald Trump came waltzing into Washington, D.C., this guy knows what he's doing. This guy has got Washington figured out. He's got experience. He's got support. He's got very savvy advisors. So you liberals, hunker down and watch out.
[00:23:36] So on the one hand, the New York Times is giving us what they think is the bad news about the American people, and the Washington Post is recognizing what they think is the bad news about the kind of power that is being marshaled against everything that they've been trying to promote for the last 20, 30, 40 years. So even the media is cowed to some degree, and I think it's a wonderful, wonderful thing. All right, Jared, last question.
[00:24:04] You've got a busy night ahead of you, and we've got to let you go after this segment. You've got another appointment. But looking at it from our perspective, the perspective of the regular guests on this program, and A-plus being Jared Taylor as president and F being Kamala Harris, where would you grade Trump right now, at least in terms of the prospects of this incoming administration? Well, you know, you know the way I feel about Donald Trump personally. You were cool on him in the months leading up.
[00:24:34] I realize that. You were objective, I should say. The music is playing. What, C-plus? B-minus? C-plus? Maybe even a B-minus. I mean, I hope springs eternal, James. It does! You and I both are cheerful men. We are cheerful men. We are happy warriors. Give them a B-minus. Your daily Liberty Newswire. You're listening to Liberty News Radio. News this hour from townhall.com. I'm Jason Walker.
[00:25:04] I'm Jason Walker. Officials in Qatar say the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas will go into effect tomorrow morning, 830 local time. Now, there are reports indicating some plan is in motion that will see some prisoners of war exchange. Exactly how many and exactly when is still not clear. Donald Trump about to move back into the White House.
[00:25:27] For his second term, 8 in 10 Republicans say Trump will be great or good as president, while the same proportion of Democrats expect him to be poor or terrible. Only about 2 in 10 polled said they're highly confident Trump will be able to lower the cost of groceries, housing, or health care this year, with low expectations even among Republicans. 3 in 10 Americans are highly confident Trump can improve the job market and the economy. Respondents are especially skeptical of Trump's ability to bring down the cost of health care. Jennifer King, Washington.
[00:25:55] Mr. Trump says he will most likely give TikTok a 90-day reprieve. That from a potential ban once he takes office Monday at issue, the Chinese-owned company posing a security risk. Also at townhall.com, bitterly cold conditions coming across a big part of the nation. We're looking at some really very, very cold air coming down across the northern plains in the Midwest here over the next couple of days.
[00:26:21] And this is going to be driving all the way down into the Ohio Valley and much of the eastern seaboard here as we get into Inauguration Day. And as this happens, we're also going to have a winter storm that's going to be impacting areas of the central Appalachians, the mid-Atlantic, and up into New England. That is National Weather Service meteorologist Andrew Orison. More than 1,000 prison inmates are helping firefighters to battle the blazes in Los Angeles.
[00:26:51] Those fires have killed at least 27 people so far. More on these stories at townhall.com. A lot of times you have to choose between something high quality or something that saves you money. But if you could get both, why not? Especially when it comes to health care, and that is MediShare. You get both. Many families save $500 a month with MediShare, and that's huge. But it's also true that people wind up way more satisfied, too.
[00:27:18] The member satisfaction rate for MediShare is double that of the typical health insurance plan. Double. That's because MediShare works. It has for more than 30 years. It's a community of Christians who have shared more than $5 billion of each other's bills. People love having telehealth. They love the huge PPO network. So, yeah, really, you can save a ton and like it better. Imagine being happy with how you're taking care of your health care. So if you're self-employed or part of the gig economy or you just want to plan you're happy with,
[00:27:46] you can call right now and get a price in two minutes. Here's the number. Just call 888-SHARE-19. That's 888-SHARE-19. 888-SHARE-19. Hey, y'all. Do you enjoy great-tasting coffee but are tired of supporting companies that hate you? If so, let me tell you about Above Time Coffee. Above Time Coffee is a privately owned and operated small business. They hand-roast coffee and ship it to customers throughout the United States and abroad.
[00:28:15] Above Time Coffee was launched because they saw a need for more pro-white businesses serving our people. The time has come to take our own side. And did I mention their coffee tastes great? It's the best coffee I've ever tasted. When James brought home a sample from a conference, I was hooked and threw out all the other brands. I think you will too after you make an order at AboveTimeCoffee.com. Living a healthy and active lifestyle is important to us. And I appreciate the effort Above Time Coffee invests in keeping its products organic.
[00:28:43] And there are so many flavors to choose from. Check it out for yourself by visiting AboveTimeCoffee.com. It's the only coffee we drink at the Edwards Home. Delicious coffee. A company that serves the interests of our people. Check out their selection today at AboveTimeCoffee.com. It is common for politicians, major media outlets, and non-profits to hype white on black murders aggressively. Or even claim that blacks are living in fear of white people. Lence for simply being black.
[00:29:13] Hard to believe, but that's what was done. And some people still want to do that. This is why National Conservative launched the Interracial Homicide Tracking Project. We have now documented well over 2,000 confirmed interracial homicides since January 2023. And created the most comprehensive overview of these killings anyone has ever made. We plug the gaping holes in data left by other homicide trackers and government crime stats.
[00:29:39] Rather than engaging in hyperbole and vitriolic rhetoric like everyone else, we are simply creating a massive sample size of empirical evidence so people can form rational and informed opinions about a sensitive and politically charged issue. Visit natcon.life. N-A-T-C-O-N dot L-I-F-E.
[00:30:08] Welcome back, everybody, to a pretty interesting two-week special miniseries here on TPC as we talk about the inauguration. Here, if you're listening live, we are a couple of days prior to the inauguration. Next week, next Saturday, a week from now, will be a few days beyond it. And we are taking full advantage this week and next of one last chance to express our hopes and concerns
[00:30:38] before the incoming administration begins its work. And we're doing so with a roster of guests who can certainly provide us diverse opinions. This is the only type of diversity that the left doesn't like. They like diversity in all things except in opinion. Here at TPC, we love it. And you just heard from Jared Taylor. In the next hour, you're going to hear from Steve King and Lou Moore. We're actually going to be teaming up Steve King and Lou Moore.
[00:31:06] So, of course, Steve King spent 18 years as a United States congressman. Lou Moore ran Ron Paul's 2008 presidential campaign, but he was also congressional chief of staff for six years. We're going to get these two guys together in the next hour. Next week, Congressman Steve Stockman will be on. And he's actually at an inaugural ball right now. And that is actually the reason. A spot opened up. And the first thing that I did when that spot opened up was I called Jason Kessler.
[00:31:35] And Jason Kessler is back on for the first time since last month. Jason, welcome back. Always great to talk to you. Hey, great to be with you again. Well, I appreciate you giving us the time on such short notice. And Jason is, of course, a journalist and a guy whose takes we like so much we really can't keep him off the radio. He has become quite a regular guest.
[00:32:04] And so, Jason, I follow your telegram, as you know, and I enjoy reading your comments there. And I'll start with this one. And I think it's timely considering the topic at hand this evening. You wrote this. And in many ways as Trump failed in office to live up to the hype, it's just not credible to say that he is no better than McCain, Romney, and Bush.
[00:32:31] The Republicans that came before him were demonstrably worse. Now, you are, too, Jason, a very objective guy when it comes to Trump. You're not a sycophant, but you're not one of these people that look for any reason to be opposed to the things that he may or may not be trying to do as president.
[00:32:53] So pick up on that topic, that comment that I just read, and take it away as we get ready for the Trump 2.0 administration. Yeah, I think that the McCain's and Romney's of the world wouldn't have had any difference whatsoever with the Biden administration. And we've seen what they've done, you know, in foreign policy. You know, they've allowed conditions to get where you've had this Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the Russia-Ukraine thing,
[00:33:21] which could have happened during Trump's first administration but didn't because he seemed to have a good relationship with Putin. And, you know, I mean, there's a lot of people who try to claim that there's no difference between Trump and any other Republican politician. But I'd say that he actually has a pretty good start out of the gate. A lot of people have been concerned that he would just be a sycophant for Netanyahu.
[00:33:46] But actually, he had some negotiators who pushed Netanyahu pretty hard and were able to get a ceasefire deal in this Arab-Palestinian conflict. And then, of course, he's been selling himself for a long time as the guy who will put to bed this Russia-Ukraine thing. And there's never really been a better time to get concessions from Zelensky because they've been – Ukraine has been losing so much territory to Russia,
[00:34:13] and Russia has pretty much just shrugged off the economic sanctions from the West. Well, this actually came in – you mentioned Netanyahu, and that reminded me of this email that came in from a listener and supporter in Texas. And he writes this,
[00:34:57] The listener asks enough to be slyly referring to Netanyahu has been widely criticized in Israel for not doing enough to get the hostages back, and Netanyahu just canceled his trip to America for this inauguration. Do you have an answer to that, Jason? It's an interesting thought. Well, I mean, based on the hard negotiating tactics with Netanyahu, that's a distinct possibility. I think that Trump has been selling himself for a long time as a guy who's really great on foreign policy.
[00:35:24] And to his credit, I mean, that was the best thing about the first Trump administration. And so I think he wants to clear the slate of all these international conflicts that cropped up during the Biden administration that seemed like conflicts of choice in many ways. You know, the Biden administration jumped in the way of the early peace talks between Ukraine and Russia, and they really didn't put any pressure whatsoever on Netanyahu.
[00:35:54] They just rolled over for him. You know, as the Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, you know, a devout booster of Israel. His father was a really prominent Zionist, and they just wore canning gloves. So I think that we have reasons to potentially be optimistic about it. Well, let me ask you this. So, of course, again, you have people out there who, and perhaps quite rightly,
[00:36:23] will say that Trump is beholden to Jewish power and influence. Trump himself is a Jew. I don't know if that's real or imagined, but all of these things. Just looking at this objectively as we try to do. Again, I think psychologically, we were talking about this earlier, the psychology behind this is if you have to steel yourself for the disappointments that will inevitably come, whether they be substantial or minor.
[00:36:53] And so you tell yourself these things to just prepare yourself for what we have always had here as whatever you want to call us, anything between paleo-conservatives and white identitarians. We have always been betrayed. The Republican Party has never been our friend. I get that. I understand that. I see that. I see that better than most. But at the same time, we need to be objective enough to let good things happen.
[00:37:22] And, Jason, are any good things likely to happen under this incoming administration that would not have happened otherwise? That is what we're examining tonight. That is what we're talking about. And you're a guy who's paid a price more than just about every white man alive. I mean, you know, there are some that have paid more, of course, but I think, you know, you're maybe in the top 1% to 5% out there
[00:37:45] who have paid a price for having beliefs and flexible beliefs and standing on those things and going out and fighting for our people in the public square. So I think your opinion on this carries a lot of weight. Are we better off now than we would have been? Yeah, I think people just got to recognize that the electoral strategy is not the end-all, be-all for the white ethnic power block. You know, we have a long way to go. Our people have been deracinated.
[00:38:11] They don't look at themselves as white people first the way that blacks and Indians and Jews and just about everybody else does. And so we have a lot of work there to do. But Trump is not going to do that for us, and he's not going to fix everything for us. But what he is going to be is better than Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. There's just no doubt about the fact in the black and white numbers, there was a lot of illegal border crossing in the Biden administration.
[00:38:40] Not that it, you know, was contained as well as Trump had told us he was going to contain it during his administration. But, I mean, it was a catastrophic crisis to the point that even Democrats and liberal journalists were commenting about what was going on at the border. So that has to be brought under control. And Trump is promising that on Tuesday raids are going to begin in Chicago.
[00:39:08] So he's really making some bold claims that can either be proven or falsified very quickly. So we're going to have an indication of whether he's going to back up his tough talk this time or not. Well, let me ask you this very quickly. The music is about to start playing for this break. And then when we come back, we're going to focus more on the current events of this weekend, inauguration weekend, and some things we can expect in the next few days and perhaps even the first 100 days,
[00:39:36] which is always an interesting benchmark. But do you believe, Jason, that Jewish power and influence is waning and that maybe it's being replaced by these tech bros who, you know, Kevin McDonald has written so much about Jewish evolutionary psychology and what motivates them to do the things that they do, whereas maybe the tech bros are just more interested in their own bottom lines and number one and profits and that they may be actually more amenable to some of our ideas than the previous elites.
[00:40:04] Do you think that there is a changing of the oligarchy right now taking place? I'm not sure that it's changing that much at the oligarchy level. At the street level, it's definitely changing where you have a lot of these activists and students and just the rabble on social media that are very much turning against Israel and they're starting to understand a lot of the criticisms that have been coming from the white advocates for a very long time.
[00:40:32] As far as the oligarchy, I kind of see an entrenchment by some people like Elon Musk. You know, he's adopted so many of our talking points. He uses tech and Pepe and all this stuff that comes from right-wing mean culture, and yet he is totally bucking the trend on the Israel thing, and he is solidly with Israel. So that's something that is going to be harder. We'll come back with that right after this.
[00:41:17] The Antelope Hill Catalog includes books you won't find anywhere else, such as Pelface, The Philosophy of the Melting Pot, which criticizes white self-hatred, The 60-Year Caucasian War, and other books about Russian history and politics, The Sword of Christ, which argues for restoring Christianity as the foundation of the West and combating heresies like Christian Zionism, books on the Spanish Civil War, speeches by Mussolini and other historical figures, original translations of previously unavailable 20th century works, and much more.
[00:41:45] With new titles added every month, there's no doubt that Antelope Hill Publishing will have something for everyone, even children. These books will enhance your personal library, and they also make great gifts. So be sure to check out the complete catalog at antelopehillpublishing.com. Order online today at antelopehillpublishing.com. As you are aware, America is divided over every fault line possible. This is intentionally fostered by those who do not love God, family, or country. We believe a peaceful future as a free people absolutely depends on civility.
[00:42:14] Clarion Call for Civility is looking for funding and volunteers at every level to make our hopes and efforts a reality. Please donate, sign our pledge, and help us in our sacred cause. Please visit callforcivility.com for more details. Callforcivility.com. Bypass the mainstream narrative with Liberty News Radio at libertynewsradio.com. Engage with charismatic hosts live or on demand. We cover the crucial news focused on God, family, and country.
[00:42:43] News that other networks simply refuse to use. Think of LNR as hard-hitting news and podcasts at your fingertips anytime, anywhere. Join us at libertynewsradio.com. Empower your day with the truth, because the truth will set you free. Liberty News Radio.com.
[00:43:09] So much more still I want to cover with Jason Kessler, and we only have about 10 minutes to do it. But first, Jason, if we can move at a brisk pace, I want to go back to what you were mentioning before the break, Elon Musk. I mean, Elon Musk certainly is schizophrenic on some levels. I think when you have that level of genius, maybe that just comes part and parcel.
[00:43:29] He says some things that are so good on, like, ADL and even white identity on some levels that it defies belief. It baffles you. And then he'll do the exact opposite on another day. And then, you know, the Christmastime HB1 visa kerfuffle was certainly a bad look for him.
[00:43:51] But overall, if I got to take him or, you know, the powers that be from, you know, the last several decades, you know, let's roll the dice at least every now and then it's going to hit on our numbers, right, with guys like that. But now I have this email in from a friend in Illinois who's listening right now. And he writes, these tech moguls and such are not changing anything substantial. They're just offering Trump a pittance to keep his DOJ from going after them.
[00:44:20] I wish I could share your and Jared's optimism, talking about Jared Taylor in the first 30 minutes of this hour. So, again, with regards to, you know, Zuckerberg now becoming a Trump fan, I mean, how do you interpret all this, Jason? Well, I think that Elon Musk is a trendsetter in the tech world in the same way that Trump is in the political world. There was a survey recently that came out showing that leftism is down across the world.
[00:44:50] You know, right-wing candidates are winning everywhere. Even in South America, we have these Trump of the tropics type candidates. And in a similar way, you know, Elon Musk is pushing Bezos and Bill Gates now is a fan of Trump and all these guys to support Trump.
[00:45:11] It was only a year ago that Mark Zuckerberg was publicly opposing Elon Musk so much for his alleged racism that he created threads to try and compete with Twitter. And now, only a year later, he completely did a 180 and is praising Elon Musk and Donald Trump. I think part of this is just this sea change that's happened since Trump got reelected,
[00:45:38] where all kinds of people who in his first administration wouldn't have been caught dead associating with him. They feel like, you know, with the second victory, that the culture has changed and it's no longer toxic to associate with these things.
[00:45:54] I think that people like Zuckerberg want to have cachet in the Trump administration because they're going to be deciding a lot of things that are going to be crucial to their bottom line regarding crypto and AI legislation and the H-1B stuff. All right, Jason, give me this. First of all, let me give you this.
[00:46:17] And that is a full-throated, wholehearted endorsement of your book, Charlottesville and the Death of Free Speech. Folks, if you have not gotten that book yet, please go to dissident.press. Dissident.press. Dissident.press. DISS. And when you're buying the book, get the hardcover instead of the softcover.
[00:46:44] I think if you get the hardcover, you get a little blurb that I wrote for the book that is not included in the softcover or the paperback, as they call it. But either way, dissident.press is where you need to go. Get the book and start your year off right. Charlottesville is something that's just been a mainstay topic for the last eight years and will continue to be. That was a historic moment, and we're talking now with the man who pulled the permit and put it all together, that Jason Kessler.
[00:47:12] But, Jason, you know the regular guests we have on this program. You among them, most certainly. Why should people who are white advocates, well, or should they? Where do you fall in terms of being optimistic about what the next four years may bring because Trump is in office? What is one thing you can point to to say, this is one reason why we're better off? If only one reason, this is it. Well, I think that we have to wait and see, really.
[00:47:42] I mean, there's been so many people making so many blanket statements, you know, saying that Trump has been a success or condemning him, and he hasn't even gotten into office yet. So we'll see if he falls through on his promises. But I really think no matter what he does, whether he's learned to wield the levers of government power better than in his first administration or not, his primary benefit is that he is pushing the Overton window.
[00:48:09] He is a trendsetter not just for the United States but for the entire world. He may not be explicitly promoting white identity, but he is sort of a fellow traveler, and he throws fuel onto what we are trying to do. I see. Now, you're cooking with Greece now, Jay. This is the way I see it because I'm not pro or against Trump. I think some members of my audience who are pro-Trump think I'm anti-Trump. Maybe some people who are anti-Trump think I'm pro-Trump.
[00:48:39] Whatever he can do for us, I welcome. And whatever he can do for us, whether it's purposeful or inadvertent, I'm for it. But I do see what I think you're seeing here, and I think what you're articulating is that there are some good things, at least from the perception. This is one thing that I think regular listeners of this program may have forgotten, and maybe sometimes I forget too. For the other half of the world, the other half that voted for Kamala, the other half of America, we just elected Adolf Hitler.
[00:49:08] All right, so that's the perception on that side of it. And the truth is somewhere, obviously, in the middle. For our people, we just elected this Zion Don. For the other side, we elected Adolf Hitler. And the truth is somewhere in the middle. Truly, it is somewhere in the middle. Right, Jason? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, things don't necessarily map onto 1930s Germany as much as both sides want it to be. And Trump is good for us on some issues. He might be good for us on the illegal immigration.
[00:49:36] He might be bad for us on the legal immigration. He might be bad for us on Israel. Although, you know, with this peace agreement, maybe he'll actually kind of break even. But ultimately, the other side is going to be out protesting him at the inauguration. Antifa and all those people are going to try to wake up and show that they're not dead. And so if you want to see what the bad guys look like, they really look like it's those people.
[00:50:03] And Trump, when he does a good thing, let him do a good thing. And when he does a bad thing, let's not, you know, make it a blanket thing that everything he does sucks. It's somewhere in the middle, as you say. Well, yeah, our identity is not wrapped in Donald Trump. Donald Trump is the president, whether you wanted him to be or not. And I think, you know, I think 85% of this audience voted for Donald Trump. But, and I did. I voted for him three times. Not because I love him, but because there were reasons.
[00:50:31] And, well, the reasons are probably the reasons that all of our people voted for him that did. That is, I didn't want to see Kamala Harris in there. And, but I think it did work into our favor that he lost to Biden. And now he can come back, sort of this reinvented, punished Trump. And I hope that there's hell to pay. I hope heads roll. I sure do. But you, I want to finish on this, Jason. We just got two or three minutes remaining. You mentioned Antifa.
[00:50:59] I mean, if anybody knows what the reactionary criminal left looks like up close and personal, it is you. It is you. You saw it in Charlottesville all too well and all too closely. And I was asking, you know, where is the resistance this time? You wrote on your telegram, if anybody's going to the inauguration, be careful. You think that Trump moved it not because of the cold weather, but because the atmosphere is going to be volatile and that they are worried about another assassination attempt.
[00:51:29] And I was asking, Jared, you know, where is the resistance we saw even in the inauguration in 2017? You know, a few cars were set on fire. There were some fist fights. There were some, you know, a little bit of that going on. But this time, I mean, it doesn't seem, even in the immediate aftermath of the election, we haven't seen it. So where is the resistance? When will it come back? And what do you expect on Monday? Yeah, it seems like there's been a muted response.
[00:51:52] There's been a cultural acceptance for Trump winning this time that wasn't there the first time when the left was just in shock. But, you know, just before coming on the air, I was viewing videos that RT News was putting up from Washington, D.C., where both the Trump supporters and the far left counter protesters, if you want to call them that, or armed terrorists were out there.
[00:52:17] And they're, you know, attacking people and mobbing people and the police are trying to separate them. So it's much more familiar scenes that leave it kind of up in the air whether the far left is going to finally start to wake up. And I think that that's going to be one of the most important things that happens during this Trump administration. Because if they go on a rampage like they did in 2020, that's going to be huge.
[00:52:43] Well, you know, and it'll be interesting to see his response this time, whereas in 2020 he let Washington burn, the likes of which it hadn't since 1812, the War of 1812. Will he respond a little more forcefully this time? I never could understand that the first time, why he'd let those people do all those things. But again, so here we are. And the left has been punch drunk since November.
[00:53:07] But you think, yes or no, that they will either, what, continue to drift for how long or mount this counteroffensive and win? I've been surprised at their silence since November. Completely adrift. Antifa becomes much more dangerous when they're backed by the elites.
[00:53:27] It's when the elites are, you know, going to bat for them in the court cases pro bono and sending them money and their bail funds and all this other stuff, you know, promoting their point of view in mainstream media. But they may or may not have that this time, or it may be slightly muted because of the difference in the culture on Trump.
[00:53:48] But from what I was seeing of these videos in D.C., it looks like the radical street activists are going to be out there, whether they have the support from higher up or not. I did find it interesting, Jason, that Trump did move this indoors. You've got 250,000 people. He loves a big crowd. Estimated crowd of 250,000 coming into town. He's going to move it to the Capital One Arena that seats 30,000.
[00:54:12] If you pull out the basketball court and put people on the floor, Capital Rotunda, they're going to have to watch it on a jumbotron over at the arena. Didn't make sense to me. I know it's going to be cold, but hell, it was cold in 2017 when I was there. And, I mean, what's the difference? You know, 10 degrees? So, I don't know. Interesting take you have, as always. Dissident.press. Get his book.
[00:54:34] QR codes, pictures, insights to the Charlottesville incident, the likes of which you cannot get from anyone else. Jason Kessler. Thank you, Jason.