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[00:00:31] Quintessential TPC. Remember those words over the course of the next three hours. Tonight's broadcast is going to be quintessential TPC. We have blitzed into the new year of broadcasting with great zeal, and here we are on week two of 52, and that momentum is going to carry over tonight, I can promise you, when we welcome back three truly mainstay guests, three guests who I've met, all three of these guests and dear friends of mine, at the same time for the first time,
[00:00:59] all the way back in 2004. Tonight you're going to hear from Sam Dixon, David Duke, but first the great and legendary Paul Fromm, joining us from our neighbor to the north to discuss a lot of things. Paul Fromm, of course, is the director of the Canadian Association for Free Expression and so much more. But let's say hello very quickly and welcome him back, and happy new year still to you, Paul. I think it's still January the 11th we can say happy new year. Happy new year, Paul. How are you in Canada?
[00:01:30] Oh, really great and very active, and a happy new year to you from the great and no longer very white north. Well, still whiter than we are, so to us, it's still something to aspire towards. But I tell you, my friend, there is a lot of stuff going on up there, and of course we were already anticipating your next appearance on the program in a few weeks when we kick off our annual March Around the World special programming.
[00:02:00] And I guess having you on tonight sets you up to be the first guest of the year who will make a repeat appearance when we have you back in March. But we couldn't wait until then because there's so much going on. And let's start now with the resignation, the capitulation of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Let's talk about the significance of that and the chain of events that led to it. Take it away, Paul. Yeah. Well, after months of pressure in a minority government,
[00:02:30] Justin Trudeau has stepped down as prime minister, and there will be a race for the liberal leadership, which will take place, I think, around the 10th of March. And then Parliament has prorogued, which means it's ended. And actually this is a very good – well, it's bad and good. It's bad because we should have a functioning Parliament
[00:02:56] because we have some very big issues in terms of Canada-U.S. relations. It's good, though, because all the rotten legislation that was working its way through Parliament dies. And what's going to happen is as soon as Parliament reconvenes, all three opposition parties are now pledged to vote non-confidence, which means the government falls and there's an election.
[00:03:23] We desperately need an election to settle things and to get rid of the Trudeau liberals. And that's what the polls show. They'll be massively defeated. Well, let me ask you this, Paul, before we get to Keith. Keith, he is chomping at the bit to get on with this, too. It's certainly a big deal. It's a bigger deal than I think people may realize, and we'll get to that in just a moment. But again, let me just ask you,
[00:03:51] what was the catalyst that led to this resignation? I mean, prime ministers don't normally just resign in the middle of a term. No, well, the polls show the Liberal Party perhaps winning six seats in the next election, down from 154. They'll be reduced. Yeah, this will be, they'll be cleaned out.
[00:04:16] There's been a massive growing disillusionment with Trudeau, the woke agenda, the anti-energy agenda, the immigration invasion. It's caught up to him. And finally, his own members of parliament, who generally tend to be more passive than a submissive in a brothel,
[00:04:45] seeing their own imminent fate, defeat, have finally rebelled and said, you know, we can't follow you anymore. You're leading us to perdition. And he's, you know, he's very egotistical. He's a totally woke boy and, you know, believes he can guide Canada to the new world order, the first post-national state and all this other stuff.
[00:05:14] And that pressure, I think pressure from the business community, which is saying we need somebody who has the respect of the United States to negotiate with Donald Trump. And you're not it. You're yesterday's star and you're no longer shining. So that and some recent by-election losses,
[00:05:42] they lost absolutely safe seats in Toronto back in June, in Montreal two months ago, and then in Vancouver, where they got less than 10 percent of the vote. They held the seat. The member of parliament resigned. They had a by-election. That member of parliament, oh, I'm exaggerating, but barely beat the Marxist-Leninists. But it was just a complete tumble. They're losing support right across the country.
[00:06:11] That's what the polls show and that's what the by-elections are showing. And so the pressure is inexorable, and he very reluctantly resigned on Monday. And believe me, there was both a sigh of relief and a few hoots of joy across the Dominion. Okay, Paul, Keith Alexander here. I had heard that there may have been some type of pressure that began with the trucker strike from several years ago. Is there any truth to that?
[00:06:41] Is this guy just copying an attitude, or is he really seeing, you know, basically transformation of the Canadian electorate? They've just given up on liberalism. What do you think? How do you read all this? Keith, yeah. I think the Canadian electorate has given up on woke liberalism. It's done enough damage that a lot of people can see it.
[00:07:10] Yeah, the beginning of the end was the trucker's convoy. It was basically a mass rebellion, peaceful. And he brought in the most serious piece of legislation Canada has. It used to be the War Measures Act. It's now called the Emergencies Act. It was designed for an emergency that could not be handled by Parliament. Let's say a Red Chinese invasion of the West Coast, and everything's in total chaos, and you need extra powers.
[00:07:39] This was a parking problem. It was a parking problem. The truckers drove to Ottawa, occupied a section of the city. They had a joyous rally that lasted a month in freezing Ottawa temperatures. They had bouncy castles dancing. People were hugging. And this was a parking problem. And he treated it as the equivalent of a foreign invasion.
[00:08:09] January the 6th. Just like January the 6th. And the fact that while the Act was in power, they could seize people's bank accounts, not just the organizers of the trucker's convoy. Some lady in Chilliwack, British Columbia, a single mom, gave $50. And she was perhaps unwise enough in this repressive state to mention it on Facebook.
[00:08:38] She said, I gave $50 to the truckers. Well, some Snoopy teller at her local bank drew it to the attention of the bank manager. Oh, you know. And so-and-so over there gave $50 to those truckers. They froze her account. And frozen seas, you know, they may seem like a difference, but they're only a legal difference. If your bank account is frozen, your mortgage payment bounces.
[00:09:07] You can't get money out for food. You can't pay your taxes. Oh, well, why should you? Or you can't pay your car insurance. It's catastrophic. That reached a lot of people. I'm told by people who are in the banking community, there was a run on the banks. As soon as people heard about that, all sorts of people, and not just people who supported the truckers, but there was a run on the banks.
[00:09:30] People thought, if they can seize my bank account, I'm taking my $47.33 out of my $10,000 or whatever it might be. And that really soured people, even those who didn't support the truckers. Well, you could- You know, the government- Well, I was just going to say, Paul, you could see tremors in Canada, even in some ways more demonstrably than you could here,
[00:09:58] with the truckers strike and everything that was going on leading up to this for the last several years. The COVID restrictions there were so much more diabolical. And I would ask you, is this implosion of the Trudeau regime and his party, do you think that that's indicative of the collapse of what appears to be a collapse of the liberal woke order worldwide? Yeah, I think so.
[00:10:28] I know Trump, he may have won on with a couple of slogans. You know, when I get in, it'll be drill, baby, drill. And we're going to close the border. We're going to deport them. And that has moved the perception. You know, we like to think we're different from the Americans. Well, we're not. Hold on right there. We're going to come back with that question. I'll repose it to you. Is this what's happening in Canada? What's happening in Canada?
[00:10:55] Is that part of what we are seeing going on worldwide here with wokeism in a reverberation of Trump's election? We'll be right back. We'll be right back.
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[00:13:11] It has been a little bit like Canada down here in Memphis this week. We got about, what, six to eight inches of snow yesterday, and we've been out building snowmen and sledding and having snowball wars and all of that. As a matter of fact, I've been with my family all day, and they came with me to the studio tonight, and I'm looking at my wife and youngest daughter. My son's on the other side of Keith. But then, before we continue, we're going to take a break for a little comic relief. My four-year-old daughter has a joke she would like to share with us tonight.
[00:13:41] Let's see if she can do it. Okay, what's the joke? It's only me listening, and I'm only wearing these headsets so I can hear what you're saying. Okay, so you're only talking to me. This is Caroline. Why did the chicken cross the road? Why did the chicken cross the road? Because. No, no, you have to do it, though. You have to answer. All right, try again. Why did the chicken cross the road? Why? Yes! Okay, there it was. All right, do you get the joke, Keith? No, but you're always playing for me, I'm sure. But she's making like a chicken sound.
[00:14:11] Oh, okay. You know, the because is. Oh, my God. That's right. All right, all right. She'll be here all week, ladies. All right, well, anyway, thank you, Caroline. It is a family show, is it not? I mean, you know, here we are. And our guests are like family. I mean, we've known, I've known Paul for all my entire adult life. He's been like a, I don't know, I mean, an uncle, I guess, you know, but the uncle you want to have and all of that. So, Paul, let's get right back to it.
[00:14:38] So, the, is what's going on in Canada, the question I was asking you before the break, is what's going on in Canada sort of just a part in what is apparently this collapse of wokeism worldwide. You see it in retreat from everywhere now to Facebook and even McDonald's reeling back their DEI policies. There definitely seems to be a backlash. And is this a reverberation of Donald Trump's election where sort of the gauntlet was thrown
[00:15:04] down, at least in theory, that a lot of this stuff is not a rising sun right now? Yes, I think it is. As I was saying just before the break, Canadians like to think of themselves as different from Americans. And we are up to a point.
[00:15:27] And, but what so often happens is there'll be a trend in the United States. And we adopted about 10 years later, when I was in education, we saw this quite often. The latest thing since sliced bread, like open concept classrooms. Well, it failed in the States, but after it failed, we adopted it as the latest thing since sliced bread.
[00:15:56] And what I see happening is that Donald Trump has changed the agenda. I think maybe five years ago, very few Americans would say yes to mass deportations. He's moved the, he's moved the needle completely. There's a majority in favor of it. And I believe he's going to do it. And in Canada, it would be even more liberal.
[00:16:23] But now we've got protesters in cities across Ontario. They are kind of like flying squads. They'll appear in a mall with a big banner, mass deportations now. And they wait about 15 minutes, take off. They go to a highway overpass, same thing. And they're, they're, they're reflecting a big change.
[00:16:48] Canada, Canadians have absolutely turned on immigration because for one thing, Trudeau brought in millions in the past three, three years. Parts of Canada look as though it's their Calcutta. I mean, it's incredible. And even the most liberal Canadians now see that the reason our housing prices are absolutely out of sight is that we're not building houses fast enough.
[00:17:17] We are about 3.5 million houses short of what we need for balance. We're building houses at about the same rate as in 1974. And that's, that's about a quarter of a million houses a year. And in 1974, we had 22 million people. We've got 40, 42 million. Now the houses are not being built.
[00:17:42] Every body that comes into this country, whether it's a, as a, on a phony student visa or temporary foreign worker or a landed immigrant, they've got to, they've got to put their brown butt somewhere to sleep. And then housing is insane. That's finally, that's finally reached people. You know, people were dumb in the mainstream media, resisted like hell. But finally over the last year, it's now common knowledge.
[00:18:09] The reason housing is out of sight is mass immigration. People don't like it. Who did it? It's Trudeau. And I see a similar rebellion on other issues. I know one of the sleepers, I think, for Donald Trump's campaign was his promise. When I'm elected, there are only two genders, man and woman. And there won't be boys in the girls' washrooms or boys on the girls' teams.
[00:18:39] That, I think, won over a lot of women who might not have supported Trump in other ways. And the same sort of thing is beginning to happen in Canada. There really is a turn on the masochistic, anti-white, anti-straight, anti-Christian regime we've had for the last nine years. Okay. Paul, is this the end politically for Justin Trudeau?
[00:19:11] Yeah. When he steps down, as far as I know, he's not going to make himself a candidate for the leadership. My guess is he will go on to some cushy job at the United Nations or something like that. I mean, in politics, anything's possible. But I would say in the near future, there's not going to be a revival. His name is well and truly mud for a whole lot of reasons.
[00:19:38] I think it would take the electorate some time to accept a new, improved... He'll probably land, I don't know if it's the same way in Canada as it is in America, but say Ben Sasse, for instance, once he got, once MAGA took over and they got rid of a lot of these, you know, ridiculous Republicans like Liz Cheney and Ben Sasse. Ben Sasse landed as the president of the University of Florida. I mean, it could be things like that. Or some NGO like John Kerry did.
[00:20:07] He's going to land into some money, but that, you know, at least it's not, he's not going to be in charge politically. But that does beg the question, Paul, what's next? I mean, if the ceiling is Paul Fromm as prime minister of Canada and the floor is Justin Trudeau continues, what do you expect is coming in to replace this void? Well, in the Liberal Party, that's a good question.
[00:20:33] There are a number of current members of parliament, all of them tied to Justin Trudeau's policies, who might contest the leadership. There is an international banker, Mark Carney, who was Trudeau's choice. He has bad news on steroids. He was the former president of the Bank of Canada. Then he went to England, became president of the Bank of England. Now he holds a prestigious position with the UN.
[00:21:02] He's in charge of trying to get capital, big pockets of money, not to invest anything in, you know, oil and natural gas. He is not a politician. He's never been elected. He wrote a book about the Great Reset. And it's just a dystopian future.
[00:21:28] He wants a world because we're in an existential climate crisis. And so we're going to have less heat in the winter, less cooling in the summer. We're going to have to get away from automobiles, I mean, except for the rich, and air travel. And we're going to have to have less meat, much meaner food. I look at that and say, oh, that sounds like a great vision of the future. Count me in.
[00:21:56] This is the guy that Trudeau favors. Now, he may crash and burn. He's not a politician. But I wouldn't look for anything from the Liberal Party. The Conservative Party is on a roll. They're 25 percent ahead in the polls. They're led by Pierre Polyevre, who's a career politician. I would say he's middle of the road, though he sounds, quote, right wing. His slogan is ax the tax.
[00:22:24] That's the carbon tax, which is massively unpopular and massively destructive. That's good. He has, in an interview I've seen, said that he's going to go after woke in the Federal Civil Service. Our National Museum of Canadian History will no longer be promoting white hatred. You know, our history is just terrible, anti-Semitism, cruelty to the natives. All of this is lies.
[00:22:54] But that's what we've had under Trudeau. So that much is good. I don't entirely trust him, but particularly on the vital issue of immigration. He has never been a big opponent of mass immigration. He's criticized it around the edges. He has said, though, that under him, the annual immigration quota will be set on the basis of our labor needs.
[00:23:22] Well, with 6.8 percent unemployment, I think that would be zero. Housing, well, we're a three and a half million units behind, so I'd say intake would be zero. Well, if that's the case, why doesn't he say so? The only person really with a good immigration policy is the leader of the upstart populist party, the People's Party of Canada under Maxine Bernier. I know Maxine personally.
[00:23:51] And their policy is a moratorium. And that's the only sane immigration policy. Cut it all out until we have a breather. And that breather might take a decade or more. Now, they came a long way in the 2021 election. They didn't elect any members, but their numbers are increasing.
[00:24:12] An election could be very interesting where Bernier may bring up this really hot issue of immigration. The mainstream party. The final question, last time, is Trudeau actually Fidel Castro's son? Only his mother knows for sure. You're not ruling it out, though, right, Paul?
[00:24:43] I'm not ruling it out, no. We'll be right back. We're going to look at this thing widescreen. Stay tuned. You're listening to Liberty News Radio. News this hour from townhall.com. I'm Jason Walker. If you had any doubts about it being winter, well, think again. Temperatures this morning, international falls 14 degrees below zero. Chicago is a little warmer.
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[00:29:58] You know, it's always great to do this show and to have people like Paul Fromm on, a dear friend, a guy who has been in the trenches. I mean, this guy has lived his life on the front lines, sacrificing for our people, being attacked incessantly for his entire life.
[00:30:26] So when Paul's on, this is a guy who has the experience, he shares scars, and he is able to survey a political battlefield. And so when I ask him this next question, what he says is going to carry a lot of weight because he's been down with all of us through the anti-white regime of Western civilization for the last several decades.
[00:30:53] So if you would indulge me here just for a moment, Paul, I'd like to read this. This is our annual time in the program, or annual rather, but the time in the program each week where we cite something from another friend, Brad Griffin. And I'd just like to read this because I think it takes our conversation widescreen. It looks at it wide angle. And then I'd like to get your response. And this is what Brad has written, that we've entered a new era. Donald Trump has overthrown the liberal establishment.
[00:31:23] Liberal internationalism, which has guided our foreign policy from the New Deal to the war in Ukraine, is dead. MAGA wants to return to the days of national expansion at the expense of a NATO ally. Evidently, Trump may be serious about the acquisition of Greenland. This is a radical break in the last 75 years of American foreign policy. Here are some things that Trump says are in play. Canada becoming the 51st state.
[00:31:46] I think there's a little bit of hyperbole in there, but maybe not so much with annexing Greenland, maybe using the military to retake the Panama Canal. I think what he wants is. Invading Mexico, renaming the Gulf of Mexico, liberating the people of the United Kingdom and tariffs. So this is sort of like a return to manifest destiny. And as I said before, Paul, in America, Mark Zuckerberg just announced that Facebook is ending its censorship. The content moderation team is being dismantled.
[00:32:12] He says this is just his way of extending a middle finger to journalists because Trump is now in power. So it goes to show what I have been saying for a couple of years in speeches is that all of these people, you know, support for a lot of these things was always a mile wide and an inch deep. I always said if things begin to shift politically and it will favor people to adopt some of our positions, they will.
[00:32:38] And here in Canada, what we've been talking about, Paul, with you is that Justin Trudeau just resigned as prime minister. So Brad writes that this rebellion against the liberal ruling class that has dominated the country since the New Deal has sort of come to an end in a way that Trump has won. And the fighting between the liberal elites and the populist counter elites didn't take place on 19th century battlefields, but rather that liberals were a race of lawyers.
[00:33:05] And that the fighting between the two sides, which began with Russiagate and the Mueller probe, ended with Jack Smith withdrawing the J6 case. It all took place in the courtrooms. That violence isn't always necessary for one establishment to replace the other. And that the downfall, this is where I toss it back to you, my friend. The downfall of the American liberal establishment is now reverberating around the world. It's like the head has been cut off of the snake or it has at least disappeared. Justin Trudeau is now out in Canada. Keir Starmer is on the ropes in the U.K.
[00:33:34] The German government has collapsed. The Freedom Party is posed to take over in Austria. And the Atlantic is comparing all of this to the fall of the Soviet communism in 1989. So again, Paul, is this a reverberation of what we've seen here in America that is sort of washing up ashore in your nation and others? Yeah, absolutely. James, I noticed something about Christmas.
[00:34:03] In the week before and week after Christmas, I watch Fox News for more or less common sense, CNN for my daily dose of poison, and the Communist Broadcasting Corporation up here for my crack cocaine. And I was noticing on CNN and Fox, you know, they have little segments.
[00:34:29] They'll deal with an issue for maybe 10 or 15 minutes, and they have a panel, and they express their views, and then they move on. And the chairman of the panel on Fox would be saying, Merry Christmas, Joe, and Merry Christmas, Mary, and so on. I saw the same thing on CNN, and I nearly croaked. Dana Bash, who's a Jewess, was interviewed with some congressman, and she said to him, Merry Christmas, you know, congressman, and so-and-so.
[00:34:59] And it wasn't just she. There were others, and I thought, what's happened? There must have been a coup overnight. But, you know, these people are sensitive to the shifting sands. And, yeah, there is a change. Trump is—Trump's changes will be irresistible. The liberal left up here will kick and scream and call him a Nazi. But they called him a Nazi. They called him Hitler.
[00:35:29] They called him fascist. It didn't do any good. He swept both houses of Congress and the presidency. And I think they pretty much shot their bolt with the Nazi stuff.
[00:35:47] And Trump has said he'll be bringing in 25 percent tariffs if we don't get our Immigration Act together and crack down on the importation of fentanyl, a lot of which goes across the border into the United States. These are not unreasonable demands. I mean, securing our border is in our interest, insurance in the interest of the United States.
[00:36:12] And they are already taking some measures to do it. Probably not enough. But Trump has absolutely scared the Trudeau regime into some action just to show you how unserious our country is. We have what's called the third safe country agreement with the United States. So the idea is if somebody lands in the United States and wants to claim refugee status, they must claim it there.
[00:36:41] They can't slither across the border to Canada and claim refugee status and vice versa. Okay, that makes sense. However, the way Canada interprets it is if you cross at a regular crossing like Niagara Falls from the States and you say, oh, I'm a refugee. Well, we have to say, oh, well, sorry, go back and make your claim in the United States.
[00:37:01] However, if they're dumb enough to go 100 yards up the river and swim across, assuming they don't get drowned, we have to accept them. Oh, that's not a regular border crossing. Well, that just completely subverts the intent of the agreement. It gets even more stupid. If a border security officer sees that guy swimming, he can't do anything about it.
[00:37:26] He's got to call the RCMP, call them at the nearest donut shop and see if they can get down there fast enough to fish them out and arrest them. A country that's laws are being so subverted is clearly not serious. But we are getting serious. But fentanyl is a disgrace. It's coming in by the shipload from Red China. The interdiction will be relatively simple. You've got to search all the containers.
[00:37:56] And there's a lot of fentanyl being cooked in labs. Well, that's a matter for local police. You make that a top priority. Disband the hate squads. Disband the squads that look after the LGBTQ+, and get them into real policing. But Trump's demands are not unreasonable. And his policy of drill, baby drill,
[00:38:26] it's going to destroy the anti-carbon policies of the liberal government. We will simply have to drop these costly anti-development policies, anti-pipeline policies. We'll have to. In order to function, we're going to have to do it. It doesn't matter what government it is. So I see Trump's revolution paying off real dividends up here.
[00:38:55] I think in many ways what he wants is irresistible. Sure, they can bitch and complain and jump up and down and carry on. But Nazi-Nazi just doesn't cut it anymore. Hey, Paul Keith here. I think that the Canada policy and the Greenland policy are both, you know, there's method behind the madness. It seems kind of strange based on, let's say,
[00:39:22] the last 75 years of American foreign policy to actually make demands like this. But I think he sees a need to really solidify the northern border. Also, there's so much speculation about rare earth minerals in Greenland and in northern Canada. I think that he wants to make sure he gets into that. And then on the southern border, beyond the southern border, giving up Panama, the Panama Canal just shows what happens
[00:39:49] when you elect a liberal wimp to be the president, Jimmy Carter, okay? Yeah. Now they've basically turned it over to the Chinese. The Chinese are in control of our maritime trade, not only trade but our maritime military capacity. And Trump doesn't like that. You know, it's really kind of refreshing to hear him talk like this. You there?
[00:40:19] Okay. We'll get him back during the break. We just lost connection with Paul. We'll call him back. Our producer will call him. But, yeah, it was interesting to hear Paul say, hey, listen, I do think that Trump will pay some dividends to our explicitly pro-white interests. So, again, I wanted to get his take on that because this is a guy who's been fighting this battle for so long. And I have to agree. Is he a white nationalist? No. Are we going to be better off than we were otherwise? I think, yes. And I think you see that.
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[00:43:11] Dear James, I just came to listen to the first show of 2025, and it was excellent, very informative, and with incredibly intelligent and informed guests. Congratulations on your great work. It was a very impressive start to the year. Well, thank you so much for that. It was last week we kicked it off with Ron Unz and then regular contributors Rick Tyler, Tim Murdoch, Patrick Martin, and Jason Kuna. And then tonight, a quintessential TPC lineup,
[00:43:39] Paul Fromm, Sam Dixon, David Duke. That is red hot and rolling right out of the gate, even though there's ice all around us. Keith, you know, you saw a snowman. We built a snowman in the yard. I sent you a picture of it, and we put one of those Duke for Senate hats on it, and the hat was still on. It warmed up a little bit today, and his head fell off, but otherwise the hat would have still been on it. But we had a snowman with the Duke for Senate hat
[00:44:08] up in the neighborhood in a nice little scarf. He was a handsome fellow to be sure. But anyway, getting back with Paul Fromm, Paul, I was saying there when we were reconnecting with you that, yes, when you say that as a pro-white partisan, as a pro-white advocate, that you see things through your career, decades into a career of unflinching, uncompromising pro-white advocacy, that you see some things that are coming from Donald Trump and his incoming administration
[00:44:38] that are going to be good for our people. I listen to that, and I take note of that. And the fact of the matter is that we still haven't even seen the full implications of what happened in 2024 yet. Some people are saying that the, you know, it's totally different than the first inauguration. I was at the first inauguration with Jared Taylor and Sam Bushman, and we were there, and there was just a fierce backlash. Everybody was wearing these pink hats,
[00:45:05] and the left had mobilized and organized this resistance, and there's really nothing. I mean, Paul, they have been completely silent since November. And I don't think they're going to completely disappear, but they may be relegated to this nuisance subordinate of regional elites, where they can control the social policy in the Northeast and the West Coast, like we've already seen with abortion. But the dominant part of the country, which is now people who more or less think like us,
[00:45:34] is going to move forward. And so anyway, that's where we're at right now. And again, I have to tell you, the fact that you, as I do, as I do see some good things coming from this, is very good news. But let me ask you this. So this whole thing about Canada being the 51st state, Greenland being annexed, and the Panama Canal being taken back by force, perhaps militarily if need be, what do you think? Is all that, is that rhetoric, is that negotiating tactics, is that hyperbole,
[00:46:04] or is some of that real? Is that showmanship? I don't know. I think Trump is really just trolling Trudeau and mocking him. I'm not sure you'd want Canada as the 51st state. The 51st state would be larger geographically than the entire United States today. It could, not always, but it could be very liberal,
[00:46:32] or maybe not quite as California, but it might not be quite what you'd want electorally. You might want to divide it up into, well, we've got 10 provinces and three territories. You might want to divide it up into 11 provinces. I don't think that that's going to come to pass. I think that's more of like something to do with trade. That's going to be some sort of a ploy to get a better trade deal. But I do, I mean,
[00:47:01] of the three things that have been so widely talked about this week in the media, I think that's obviously the most fanciful. But about Greenland and the Panama Canal, what do you think about that? Greenland bothers me because it's a colony of an American ally, Denmark. Denmark has shown no signs of being obstreperous. I think what Trump wants some assurance of is a huge chunk of real estate
[00:47:30] with a lot of, as you mentioned, rare minerals. He doesn't want that to fall into the hands of the Red Chinese or the Russians. Maybe a bigger commitment to defense. And I think that may be what he's angling for with Canada. We've been a slacker. I mean, our armed forces is pathetic. We might actually have trouble taking on Denmark. We use... We use...
[00:47:57] In the 1960s, under John Diepenbaker, a great conservative prime minister, we had 48,000 people in the Canadian Air Force. We were a population of 18 million. Today, with 42 million, our entire armed forces is supposedly 60,000. The equipment's massively rusted away or obsolete. Out of date.
[00:48:26] We're going to have to make major, major economic commitments to defense, not in the next decade, today. Now, I think with that promise, especially from a new government, I think Trump might be getting some of what he wants. It's... You know, America shouldn't have to carry the entire defense burden for Canada. Panama, that's a different matter. And I agree with you, Keith. And I've seen it with my own three eyes.
[00:48:55] I was down in Panama early last year. And yeah, huge Chinese, Red Chinese presence. You know, I could see it conceivably that the United States might have to, by force or bribery, retake the canal. I mean, that won't be popular. And Panama, believe me, but if they're so hot to trot about their independence, well, why give control over the Red Chinese? That, I think, is very much...
[00:49:25] They just got a little bit more money from the Chinese, and that's all it takes. Well, yeah, yeah. You've described Latin American politics, right? The Red Chinese bribed them better than anybody else. Well, excuse me for being cynical, but... Well, I have to have the Israelis come to the rescue, and then they can out-bribe the Chinese. Well, I was born there, not in Panama, but in Colombia. I'm not a Colombian.
[00:49:54] My dad was in the oil business, and he knew Latin American politics, so that's why he told me, everybody's for sale. Well, I mean, speaking of... I mean, look at it, Paul. I mean, look at it. Historically speaking, I mean, you know, buying Greenland, this thing, it seems, you know, a little bit outrageous, but hey, I mean, history is history. We bought basically half the United States, all the territory from the Mississippi River to the Rocky Mountains and the Louisiana Purchase for the price of less than one of these Malibu houses that burned down this week. And what we'll do,
[00:50:24] we'll corner the market on ice cubes. If we have... You know, so I mean, you know, things can happen. Things can happen, but... I mean, you know, of course, Canada is only barely... only barely has more total population than the state of California. I think 40 million or something like that. So anyway, final word to you. At least we didn't get burned out. I think it's a judgment, either of the gods or God, what's happening in California now. We're going to be talking about that with Sam next.
[00:50:54] Pardon the interruption. Sam's going to be talking about that next. I won't intrude on that, but I see it as, well, justice. Well, you know, Mel Gibson's house burned down, unfortunately, and he was actually giving an interview with Joe Rogan, and he said, I know my house is burning down right now, but it just makes me feel better to be talking to you. And of course, his father was actually a good friend of ours here on the program. We had him on several times. He's a brilliant man. He really was. He was. And a very,
[00:51:23] a very Christian man. I never met him, but I've heard his tapes. He was. He was a solid guy. He died not, too, just a few years ago. He heard his tapes. You probably heard them on the says pool. He made it over 100. Well, he was around. Now, he actually spoke at Barnes Review conferences. I mean, he had made the circuit, and we put him together, and he got together with Kevin McDonald for supper one night in California. Great guy. But anyway, so we hate to see Mel's house go, but some of those other guys, it's just,
[00:51:53] anyway. Kevin Costner, let him handle it. Well, I don't know if they got Kevin's house, but they got a lot of celebrities. I mean, it was a lot of celebrity houses. And I just want to make it clear. I don't rejoice in anybody's house being burned down, but the fires and the, and the inabilities of control are results of left liberal policies. That's right. And we'll just explore that more. But I mean, yeah, you know, you, you, you elect screw ups of the first order. Well,
[00:52:23] things get screwed up. I don't understand why Trump doesn't come after Hollywood after the way they've come against him. I would love to see him reduce their copyright protection to two years and basically starve them out. Cause you know, look, people like Costner and, uh, you know, I'll even people like, you know, Taylor Sheridan, people like this, these people are left wingers.
[00:52:47] They are lacing every show that you see with liberal anti white male, uh, messaging. And, uh, you know, quite frankly, they're getting what they deserve. In my opinion, in a lot of ways, this is, this is, um, this is divine, uh, retribution. Well, it's like Paul said, not that we would wish that on anybody, but it is a logical result of, and we'll get into it in the next hour. What? I think their top three, uh, in charge at the LA fire department were these butch lesbians.
[00:53:17] And then, uh, they're redirecting water for, for minnows in the Pacific ocean. Lesbians there, their role was to root out white racists. Apparently. and people who didn't take the COVID shot. I mean, it was just, I mean, you couldn't make it up. Paul, listen, I got to tell you, brother, thank you for being back with us tonight. This is our second show of the year. And I tell you, we are burning up with these guests and it's always great to talk to you. You have been such a regular prime minister. That's what we're going to be touting.
[00:53:45] You've been such a regular for since our inception and we'll, we'll have you back on in March. So that's just a few weeks away. We'll have you back on an early March because I don't feel as though we were able to end the conversation, but Paul, we've got about 20 seconds remaining. Final word to you. Final word to you. Take it, Paul. I think things really are changing. I don't think it's just a wine hopefulness. Things are changing in the United States because of Trump and, and other things. And they're going to be changing in Canada too.
[00:54:14] This will be a different country in a year's time. A grizzled veteran. This is the words of a grizzled veteran and the pro white calls his entire life. And few, very few have done it better and more effectively and more ardently. I mean, he is always out there. He never stops. Paul from is a hero. Like the energizer bunny. And when he says something like this, you got to take note. That's right. He is like that with the bullhorn and with, uh,
[00:54:44] Paul, we love you, buddy. We'll talk to you again soon. Sam Dixon up next. Take care. Thanks, James.