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[00:01:09] Welcome to tonight's live broadcast, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:01:12] Saturday evening, November the 30th, only five shows left in our 20th anniversary year, and as much fun as this year has been,
[00:01:21] we have so much to be thankful for, so much to be excited about, so much to be hopeful for,
[00:01:27] and we're going to make these last five shows of the year entertaining and fun.
[00:01:33] We're going to have a lot of fun together.
[00:01:35] Let's just leave it at that.
[00:01:36] I hope all of you had a wonderful Thanksgiving.
[00:01:38] Happy belated Thanksgiving to you, and let me be among the first to wish you a Merry Christmas.
[00:01:44] Great Thanksgiving at the Edwards home.
[00:01:46] My wife does a wonderful apple bourbon turkey, and I think, you know, you really got to do that
[00:01:51] because the turkey's giving you everything.
[00:01:53] There's nothing more the turkey can give, so we give him two cups of bourbon
[00:01:57] before we put him in the oven, and it just makes the meat so tender.
[00:02:02] It's great, and everybody was over for the corn casserole and the sweet potato casserole
[00:02:07] and the honey-baked ham, and great way to kick it off, and wow.
[00:02:13] You ever notice how today you can't just have turkey and dressing?
[00:02:18] It's all – everybody's got to have a special spin on it.
[00:02:22] You've got to have the cornucopia.
[00:02:23] You've got to have all of it.
[00:02:25] I mean, we had a big spread.
[00:02:26] Great to have you here tonight, Keith, and we are doing it now with Lou Moore,
[00:02:32] our first guest to kick off this Christmas season 2024.
[00:02:36] Thank you again for joining us, everybody.
[00:02:37] Let's get to work.
[00:02:39] Lou, how was your holiday weekend, sir?
[00:02:42] It's been great, James.
[00:02:43] Thank you.
[00:02:44] Thanks for asking.
[00:02:45] Well, I'm glad to hear it.
[00:02:47] I'm glad to hear it.
[00:02:47] Of course, as you know, ladies and gentlemen,
[00:02:49] Lou spent years in Washington as a congressional chief of staff
[00:02:54] and was also the national campaign manager for Ron Paul's historic presidential bid.
[00:02:58] And we got to know Lou during an hour-long interview a little bit earlier this fall.
[00:03:04] He was on for our Election Day preview show the last Saturday before November the 5th.
[00:03:09] And let's just start right there, Lou.
[00:03:11] As I have told you, I watched you on a – or listened to you on a couple of different Election Day preview shows.
[00:03:21] So these were shows that you appeared on on the day of the election.
[00:03:24] And I was astonished at how accurate you were in your predictions.
[00:03:29] I mean, while we all had, you know, some things we were looking at
[00:03:32] and some things that we thought we saw,
[00:03:34] you predicted exactly what was going to happen just a couple of hours later.
[00:03:38] What were you looking at that enabled you to see things so clearly?
[00:03:42] Well, I appreciate that, James.
[00:03:44] You know, a guy can get lucky once in a while.
[00:03:46] I don't think it was that.
[00:03:48] But, no, there was a number of things.
[00:03:50] I mean, first of all, the issue set.
[00:03:52] You know, Trump had several issues that were very potent to use on the electorate,
[00:03:58] the economy, the wars overseas, immigration.
[00:04:02] I mean, the list is pretty long.
[00:04:04] But – and, you know, Kamala had, you're Adolf Hitler, and let's go kill some babies.
[00:04:10] I mean, that – you know, that was not actually – not a spectacular issue set to run on.
[00:04:17] You know, the feel of the whole election was a change election.
[00:04:22] I was talking about this on my show before I really had a lot of statistics or a lot of facts on the ground to go by.
[00:04:29] But, you know, it felt locked to me like dating myself now.
[00:04:33] Like Ronald Reagan, 1980.
[00:04:35] It just had that feel about it, that there was change in the air.
[00:04:39] And then as things progressed, we saw that there was very little energy on Kamala's side.
[00:04:47] I mean, she blew off a billion and a half dollars.
[00:04:49] They had grassroots –
[00:04:51] In 100 days.
[00:04:52] A billion dollars.
[00:04:53] In 100 days.
[00:04:53] They had people on the – they had people on the ground everywhere, but they were just kind of leaning on their shovels, kind of just collecting the check.
[00:05:02] Where our team had a ton of very enthusiastic young people, enthusiastic older people, you know, and I'm not always the biggest fan of this guy,
[00:05:13] but you got to give Charlie Kirk a lot of credit.
[00:05:15] Tyler Boyer at Turning Point Action.
[00:05:19] You know, there was these other grassroots groups, and the RNC was very smart to farm this out and not take it on themselves because they would have totally screwed it up.
[00:05:28] But the grassroots effort was spectacular.
[00:05:32] And, you know, they got those low-proclivity voters, most of them white voters, to the polls as a – you know, which was their target.
[00:05:42] And so all these things were coming together.
[00:05:44] I just saw it happening.
[00:05:45] And then all the people lining up down in these rural towns in Georgia, you know, quarter-mile-long lines to vote early.
[00:05:53] I mean, this was just, you know, a great thing.
[00:05:56] I just knew it was going to be good.
[00:05:57] Well, you called it.
[00:05:58] And, again, you're not – you weren't just calling Trump win.
[00:06:01] You were calling it with almost exact detail, and it was pretty astonishing.
[00:06:05] I got one follow-up question that's related to the question I asked you, and then Keith wants to jump in.
[00:06:09] He's got a lot for you, too.
[00:06:10] We're excited to have you for the full hour.
[00:06:11] This guy – listen, this guy knows he was a part – not a part of the machine, but you spent years working in Washington.
[00:06:18] You know how this system works for better and worse.
[00:06:20] And then you were, of course, a very important part of one of the handful of campaigns between Buchanan and Ron Paul that really paved the way and set the stage for Donald Trump.
[00:06:31] So this is a guy, Lou Moore, who when he speaks, we listen.
[00:06:34] But I was asking you about how you saw things so clearly.
[00:06:38] Alternatively, you know, James Carville is a guy who is always brought on as an expert, particularly when it comes to making predictions.
[00:06:46] He's a pundit.
[00:06:47] He's all over MSNBC.
[00:06:49] He's a Democratic contrarian.
[00:06:50] Well, but he predicted – he was predicting at the same time you were calling things, he was predicting not only a win for Kamala Harris, but a landslide.
[00:06:58] Did he really get things so wrong?
[00:06:59] Was he just cheerleading?
[00:07:00] I mean, a lot of people were saying that.
[00:07:04] Well, James Carville, who honestly I respect, respect him as far as being a political professional, he knew what was going on.
[00:07:12] I mean, he was pleading for the open convention because he and all the other smart people in the Democrat Party knew very well that Kamala was a terrible candidate.
[00:07:23] And so he was pleading for that.
[00:07:25] Anyway, he went into cheerleading mode.
[00:07:26] Absolutely.
[00:07:27] He's operative to the core.
[00:07:29] And, you know, he's going to get his paycheck no matter what.
[00:07:33] But he's been pretty brutal since the election.
[00:07:35] And those are his true feelings.
[00:07:38] But, yeah, I mean, he was gaslighting people.
[00:07:40] Yes.
[00:07:41] Yes.
[00:07:41] It was just a 100 percent.
[00:07:42] Different James Carville.
[00:07:44] Yes, indeed.
[00:07:45] But, you know, the whole Kamala caper was just one big gaslighting operation and, you know, didn't work.
[00:07:52] Well, that's it.
[00:07:54] Gaslighting and guilt tripping are about the same thing.
[00:07:56] And I've got the impression, listening to the Democrats, that they basically were trying to hide themselves.
[00:08:05] They're trying to hide the ball from their own constituents.
[00:08:07] And I don't think they did anything to really inspire confidence.
[00:08:12] On the other hand, what we had said on this show was that everybody had made up their mind they were either pro-Trump or anti-Trump.
[00:08:22] And I don't know that anybody was really pro-Kamala.
[00:08:26] But our –
[00:08:28] Well, there were a few.
[00:08:29] Anyway.
[00:08:30] Well, basically, they're basically anti-Trump.
[00:08:33] But what we were waiting for was having, you know, our – we had to find some way to get these lukewarm or tepid people that basically grudgingly said that Trump was better than the other side but to get them to come out and vote.
[00:08:50] And I think that's what the Republicans were able to do.
[00:08:54] I think Barron Trump played a big part by telling his father to start going on podcasts.
[00:08:59] What do you think?
[00:09:01] Oh, yeah.
[00:09:02] Well, there's no doubt.
[00:09:03] I mean, we're in a new era now.
[00:09:05] You know, the fact that you're not on Meet the Press or Face the Nation, I mean, that don't mean diddly.
[00:09:11] I mean, when you have Joe Rogan getting millions of people listening to his podcast every time he comes on, Tim Pool, you know, even the size now of the War Room audience, Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, all these other people.
[00:09:25] And then there are – Keith, you're absolutely right.
[00:09:27] There's these young influencers, and I'm not even up to speed on a lot of these people.
[00:09:31] You know, James was talking to me about this guy the last time we talked while I was on his show.
[00:09:36] He has 100,000 listeners.
[00:09:38] You know, no offense, anybody.
[00:09:39] I've never heard of him before.
[00:09:41] Yeah.
[00:09:42] I'm an old guy.
[00:09:43] I'm 70 years old almost.
[00:09:44] You know, it's a new era.
[00:09:46] It's more than MSNBC.
[00:09:47] Well, this was actually something I wanted to get into with you, Luke.
[00:09:50] Yeah, exactly.
[00:09:51] I mean, and I saw where Rachel Maddow just signed a new $25 million five-year contract, and she's not getting as many viewers as some of these live streamers are getting, just people doing it at their house.
[00:10:02] And it's just incredible.
[00:10:03] I mean, Jake Shields did a show yesterday.
[00:10:06] We'll talk about it more in the next hour.
[00:10:09] Sure.
[00:10:09] And I think just the preview alone on X got like a million views.
[00:10:13] So I don't know how all that's calculated all the time.
[00:10:15] But I do know this, Lou, and I would love, with you being a savvy and seasoned political operative working with Ron Paul, Congressman Jack Metcalf, I mean, you have a hell of a portfolio.
[00:10:26] So you know how the game is played.
[00:10:29] Was this the year that alternative media definitively took center stage, as my friend Sam Bushman likes to put it?
[00:10:35] Well, we'll leave you hanging on that, folks.
[00:10:38] And we'll continue with Lou Moore right after this, the first segment of the first hour of the first show for our Christmas season here at TPC.
[00:10:47] And I couldn't think of a guest I'd want more on this particular show right now than Lou Moore.
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[00:12:55] Well, we're back now with a man, ladies and gentlemen, Lou Moore, who helped pave the road that we've traveled on with his work with the Ron Paul campaign,
[00:13:59] specifically, I think, in helping us get to this point that we're now assessing and wrapping our minds around.
[00:14:07] Where are we at now with the second Trump administration taking form?
[00:14:12] Is it fool's gold again, or is there something different this time?
[00:14:15] We're going to ask Lou Moore that in just a moment, so much more still to cover with him.
[00:14:20] But, Lou, before the last break, we were talking about, well, you had mentioned that there's all of these different live streamers and podcasters now.
[00:14:28] There's just been, I mean, we've talked about this a lot over the last several years, but really, just in the last decade, really not even that long, really 2015, 2016,
[00:14:36] there was just this explosion, this proliferation of new content creators that have now really, I think, at least stood toe-to-toe with the legacy media, the establishment, controlled media, whatever you want to call it.
[00:14:50] Tell us your take on all of that.
[00:14:54] Were they really as important as some people are saying?
[00:14:58] 100%.
[00:14:59] No, 100%.
[00:15:00] And, you know, the biggest thing I noticed toward the end of the campaign is the swing of the youth over into the Trump column.
[00:15:10] It was borne out.
[00:15:12] I mean, even places like up at Penn State, where in some of the student precincts up there, Trump was running 50-50 with Kamala.
[00:15:19] And, I mean, nobody was predicting that.
[00:15:22] But I have to admit that my wife is very enthusiastic for President Trump.
[00:15:26] We have a big banner out on our house, and we live by a high school.
[00:15:32] And, you know, a bunch of high school kids were coming up one day.
[00:15:35] I thought, uh-oh, here comes the mob.
[00:15:37] You know, they're going to be upset with me.
[00:15:38] They're going, hey, dude, this is great, man.
[00:15:41] Hey, thanks for putting the banner up.
[00:15:43] I mean, they're so different, so different than the last two election cycles.
[00:15:51] And I think these influencers have something to do with that.
[00:15:56] Well, there's no doubt.
[00:15:57] I mean, look, you could go back.
[00:15:58] We've mentioned this as well.
[00:15:59] You go back eight years.
[00:16:01] Maybe you could hang the election win on the fluke of the Comey timing and all of that.
[00:16:08] But then now you've had now nearly a decade of impeachments, indictments, convictions, assassination attempts,
[00:16:13] this constant vilification in the press that has led to what I believe, you know,
[00:16:19] Nixon is not the greatest political comeback in American history anymore.
[00:16:22] And so I think Trump derangement syndrome was the best thing that ever happened to Trump.
[00:16:27] Well, but this has been a repudiation of the controlled media establishment now,
[00:16:31] after all of this having been baked into the cake for two cycles now, three cycles.
[00:16:36] Now, this is the third time.
[00:16:38] Three cycles now, and he still wins.
[00:16:40] And so, again, we're talking about this being the year that alternative media supplanted the media that has locked us out for so long.
[00:16:49] And it's just amazing.
[00:16:50] I mean, as you said, Lou, I mean, and I have to say, you know, I do this, you know, for a career as well.
[00:16:56] And I'm seeing new people all the time that I haven't heard of that are just having these massive followings and reaching so many people.
[00:17:03] So, anyway, that's another thing that we can be thankful for this Thanksgiving weekend.
[00:17:10] Donald Trump's rhetoric, though, on touchstone issues like immigration was particularly blunt late in the campaign.
[00:17:16] And the more frank he was, the more he surged.
[00:17:20] What does that reveal to you about his half of the American electorate?
[00:17:23] Well, I'll tell you, James, I think really for the first time in mass political communication,
[00:17:31] we were able, through Trump's rhetoric, to connect immigration with wages, to connect immigration straight up with crime.
[00:17:43] And this helped him with women.
[00:17:46] And it helped him with the working people all across this country.
[00:17:50] And I think, honestly, it did help him with Hispanic voters that they were saying, you know, wait a minute, another 5 million people come in.
[00:17:57] I'm going to, you know, I'm never going to get a raise.
[00:17:59] And I think that connectivity was made better than before.
[00:18:04] And, you know, so true.
[00:18:06] It is so true.
[00:18:07] And this is why they all got to go, by the way.
[00:18:09] That's why we got to deport all of them, because we owe that to the working people of America.
[00:18:15] But, you know, I still hear some people from the Trump campaign saying, well, we're really not going to do that.
[00:18:21] We're just going to get criminals and stuff like that.
[00:18:24] But what are those people?
[00:18:25] Are those people, is it going to be another one of these when all is said and done, more will be said than done?
[00:18:30] Well, this actually leads into my next question, Keith.
[00:18:33] If you'd pardon this add-on to your question, this is where I was going next with Lou.
[00:18:37] So, of course, people who follow politics loosely or perhaps avidly, everybody's got an opinion.
[00:18:44] Now, you are, again, Lou Moore, are a man who really knows his stuff here.
[00:18:50] So you've seen a lot from the inside.
[00:18:54] David Axelrod said a couple of weeks ago that this time it feels different.
[00:18:59] And he was talking about the Trump appointments or at least the proposed nominees for some of these positions.
[00:19:04] In your opinion, is it different this time from the recycled neoconservatives that populated the first administration?
[00:19:10] Do you believe that the president-elect has learned a lesson?
[00:19:14] And how would you grade?
[00:19:15] And is he going to get them actually appointed?
[00:19:17] Okay.
[00:19:17] A lot of questions there.
[00:19:18] How would you grade this current transition period so far?
[00:19:21] Well, I rate it pretty good because, you know, Trump still had to go to the special interests for some of his funding.
[00:19:30] I would say he's the most independent elected president that way that we've had, at least in my lifetime, but not as independent as we wish he was.
[00:19:42] So, you know, not every – and plus, you're always governing in a coalition.
[00:19:47] I don't care who you are.
[00:19:48] I don't care what historical figure you pick.
[00:19:50] I don't care if they were a monarch or whatever they were.
[00:19:52] You always govern in a coalition, and some parts of the coalition he's governing with are no good, in my opinion.
[00:20:01] But that being said, I don't think it's a matter of him learning a lesson, James.
[00:20:06] I think he just has more options now.
[00:20:10] He has more experience, and he has a team.
[00:20:12] I mean, Project 2025, they got poor-mouthed so much.
[00:20:16] They got like 20,000 vetted people in a database that he can pick for the lower positions.
[00:20:23] When he came in in 2016, he had nobody.
[00:20:27] I mean, you know, before –
[00:20:28] Exactly. Yes.
[00:20:28] You know, George Bush Sr., and, of course, George Bush Jr. took advantage of it.
[00:20:32] You know, the man had the biggest Rolodex in politics.
[00:20:35] And that is important when you take over a position like the White House where you've got to appoint 4,000 or 5,000 people right off the line.
[00:20:44] And Trump was just not ready to do that last time.
[00:20:47] This was one of Keith's lines.
[00:20:49] He was a bull in a china shop the first time.
[00:20:51] He was coming in and then completely outmatched by the system.
[00:20:55] But this time – and I'm not so sure.
[00:20:57] I mean, listen, we're coming into the spiritual season of Christmas.
[00:21:02] I'm not so sure God's hand wasn't in this whole thing and him losing and then coming back stronger now.
[00:21:09] And I like the fact that he might have a sense of vengeance.
[00:21:13] Listen, Ann Coulter had the cleverly titled column a few days ago,
[00:21:19] The Enemy of My Enemy is RFK Jr.
[00:21:21] And so, listen, for whatever reason, his enemies certainly are enemies.
[00:21:24] And if he comes in with a righteous sense of vengeance, more power to him.
[00:21:28] But it does seem like it's kind of taking on that field, and it sounds like you agree.
[00:21:32] So, this was something that you have covered.
[00:21:34] And by the way, folks, if you go to Lumore.com, and that's L-E-W-M-O-O-R-E, Lumore.com,
[00:21:41] you can find his Hour of Decision podcast.
[00:21:44] Now, again, a lot of content creators out there, but very few who ran Ron Paul's historic presidential campaign
[00:21:50] that I think probably everybody listening to this show tonight voted for in the primaries.
[00:21:56] He's got some great takes, and I enjoy listening to it, and I think you will too.
[00:22:01] This is something you tackled, Lou, in a recent episode of your podcast.
[00:22:05] Is Trump bringing in the right personnel to successfully wage a war against the deep state?
[00:22:11] You know, I think basically yes.
[00:22:13] If you go position by position, I would say no.
[00:22:16] But I don't, you know, again, he's governing in a coalition, and you're going to have some people in there that are just not the greatest.
[00:22:23] But I think, you know, Steve Bannon and others have called them the four horsemen of the deep state apocalypse.
[00:22:31] One of them, unfortunately, bit the dust, Matt Gaetz.
[00:22:35] But, you know, with Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hegseth, and RFK Jr., you are talking about some genuine change agents.
[00:22:43] I mean, if Hegseth can just get DEI out of our military, just that, that would be a humongous accomplishment and one that's greatly needed.
[00:22:54] So it's a mixed bag.
[00:22:56] But in the key positions, other than attorney general, I think the jury's out on his new pick.
[00:23:03] That's just my personal opinion.
[00:23:04] But I think he really was going for the change agent types in key positions.
[00:23:12] What about the military, Lou?
[00:23:16] You know, is Austin gone?
[00:23:18] Is Millie gone?
[00:23:19] Is Admiral Rachel Levine gone?
[00:23:21] You know, tell me how he's going to clean house in the military because I think that's a matter of utmost importance
[00:23:29] because I don't think our military is, you know, capable of taking care of the children crossing the street from schools nowadays,
[00:23:40] much less waging a war.
[00:23:42] Well, I hope, Keith, you're not completely right about that.
[00:23:45] However, I totally get what you're saying.
[00:23:47] I think Hegseth, you know, he had a little whiff of neoconservatism about him, a couple of books he wrote and everything.
[00:23:54] But I think he's very sincere about getting all the transgender garbage, all the DEI, all the political correctness,
[00:24:03] all the non-warfighting crap out of the Pentagon.
[00:24:07] And you combine that with this doge effort, this effort now that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are heading up to cut the budget,
[00:24:16] which is absolutely imperative.
[00:24:19] I think that's going to be kind of a pincer movement that should bring us some good results as far as the Pentagon and the military.
[00:24:26] I could do this all night long.
[00:24:28] It's Christmas time.
[00:24:29] There's a little extra enthusiasm because of that.
[00:24:32] I mean, the joy of Christmas is real.
[00:24:35] And to have Lou Moore on tonight as we continue to just sort of process this transition period,
[00:24:42] it's hard to believe it's been less than a month since the election.
[00:24:45] It's Christmas in November.
[00:24:47] Almost December.
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[00:26:00] The president of Taiwan has departed for a Pacific visit with a two-day stop in the U.S., and China is not happy about that.
[00:26:09] Taiwan's president, Lai, is departing for a trip to the South Pacific, including a two-day transit in the U.S., his first since becoming president.
[00:26:17] But the planned stopovers in Hawaii and the territory of Guam are already drawing critical reaction from China.
[00:26:23] Beijing claims Taiwan as its own territory and objects to official exchanges between it and the U.S., the island's biggest backer and military provider.
[00:26:31] The trip sees Taiwan's president visit the Marshall Islands, Tuvalu and Palau,
[00:26:35] and it's unclear whether he'll meet with any members of the incoming U.S. administration during the transit.
[00:26:41] I'm Mimi Montgomery.
[00:26:41] Powerful blast has damaged a water canal, temporarily cut water and power supply to Kosovo cities.
[00:26:48] Prime Minister Albin Kirti blames groups supported by Serbia, a charge denied by Belgrade.
[00:26:55] Breaking news and analysis, townhall.com.
[00:27:00] Southwest Airlines ending its cabin service earlier starting next month.
[00:27:06] Here's Bob Agnew.
[00:27:07] Beginning on December 4th, flight attendants will begin preparing the cabin for landing at an altitude of 18,000 feet instead of the current 10,000 feet.
[00:27:16] The company says it's making those changes to reduce the risk of in-flight turbulence injuries.
[00:27:21] For passengers, that means they'll need to return their seats to an upright position or do other pre-landing procedures earlier than before.
[00:27:28] While turbulence-related fatalities are quite rare, injuries have piled up over the years.
[00:27:33] Bob Agnew reporting.
[00:27:34] Vietnam approving the construction of a high-speed railway connecting Hanoi in the north with Ho Chi Minh, formerly Saigon, in the south.
[00:27:43] It is expected to cost $67 billion and will stretch 957 miles.
[00:27:51] Train expected to travel speeds up to 217.
[00:27:55] More on these stories at townhall.com.
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[00:30:00] Slave bells ring.
[00:30:02] Are you listening?
[00:30:04] In the lane, the snow is glistening.
[00:30:09] A beautiful sight.
[00:30:11] We're happy tonight.
[00:30:13] Walking in a way.
[00:30:17] Well, it is that time of year, is it not, ladies and gentlemen?
[00:30:20] And welcome back one and all to TPC.
[00:30:24] Live tonight on Thanksgiving weekend as we segue into Christmas in the next few days.
[00:30:31] And for the coming month, we're going to have a lot of fun together.
[00:30:34] And great to have Lou Moore back with us tonight to talk about all these things.
[00:30:38] Lou, is it a winter wonderland?
[00:30:39] If it's cold down here in the south, it may already be a winter wonderland for you in the Rocky Mountain region.
[00:30:46] How are you doing over there?
[00:30:47] Well, snow line is coming down those mountains, but it's not sticking on the ground.
[00:30:51] We've had some hit, but it's not sticking yet.
[00:30:57] I predict you'll get there.
[00:30:59] Yes.
[00:31:00] We're going to go out on a limb.
[00:31:01] It's going to snow up there before it's all said and done.
[00:31:04] Okay.
[00:31:05] Well, let's get back to it.
[00:31:08] Well, I want to give a big shout out to our friends at the Conservative Citizens Foundation
[00:31:13] who are having a listen party at their Twitter account or X account.
[00:31:19] And we want to thank Kyle for putting that together.
[00:31:23] And always good to work with them and to hear from them as we have done tonight
[00:31:32] and as we are making mention of just now.
[00:31:34] So one more thing you talked about, Lou, on your Hour of Decision podcast recently.
[00:31:43] Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, you just mentioned.
[00:31:47] Vivek, these are two people that you've taken a keen interest to.
[00:31:52] How much do you believe that DOGE, D-O-G-E, the Department of Government Efficiency,
[00:32:00] what do you think the prospects are that that's going to deliver the hammer blow that we hope?
[00:32:05] I think the prospects are pretty good, James.
[00:32:08] I mean, first of all, they really have to.
[00:32:11] I mean, we're going broke.
[00:32:12] And, you know, the bondholders may be pushing this as much as anybody else at this point,
[00:32:18] which would be kind of a new turn in American history.
[00:32:21] But, you know, there's also the landscape, legal landscape changing with the Supreme Court.
[00:32:26] The Chevron deference decision has been a couple of other decisions
[00:32:30] which have weakened the position of government employees
[00:32:34] and weakened the position of the administrative state.
[00:32:37] And then the fact that, you know, more and more,
[00:32:40] and I don't want to knock anybody in your audience,
[00:32:43] it might be fine parts, fine members of the federal workforce,
[00:32:47] but most federal employees now are liberal Democrats and are the enemy.
[00:32:52] I mean, there's no incentive for a conservative Republican to do anything but gut this federal bureaucracy.
[00:33:01] Well, we've got to clean them out, Lou.
[00:33:02] And if we don't, if we'd clean them out,
[00:33:04] another consequence probably unintended will be that we might turn Virginia back into a red state.
[00:33:14] Miracles could happen.
[00:33:15] I mean, you never know.
[00:33:16] But and then the other thing is, but a lot of people haven't talked about,
[00:33:19] Musk is setting up a pack.
[00:33:21] I mean, a lot of these senators that are going to be obstructive and members of Congress and whatnot,
[00:33:28] he's going to pour a ton of money against them in the next election if they don't play ball.
[00:33:33] This is a new dynamic.
[00:33:35] This is totally new.
[00:33:37] So we'll see.
[00:33:39] Well, listen, there's every reason to be hopeful.
[00:33:41] Look, and it's a time for that, this time of year especially.
[00:33:44] But in this transition period, Trump has not yet had the opportunity to disappoint yet
[00:33:49] because we're not to Inauguration Day.
[00:33:50] And, of course, you have to be real.
[00:33:53] You mentioned governing in a coalition.
[00:33:55] I know that every activist wishes you can get 100% of everything 100% of the time from 100% of everybody.
[00:34:00] But it just doesn't work that way.
[00:34:02] And he still has a narrow margin in the Senate that he's got to maneuver around.
[00:34:06] And all it takes is a couple of Republicans defecting.
[00:34:09] And then it doesn't matter how good Trump's vision is, it's not going to get realized.
[00:34:13] Something that I've heard about, which is very alarming to me, is that there is some type of deal that's been made with the Democrats
[00:34:22] about U.S. district court judges that they're going to basically allow them to stack those up in return for them allowing us to stack circuit court judges,
[00:34:35] you know, the next pellet level up.
[00:34:36] I haven't quite heard that one yet.
[00:34:37] But anyway, you know.
[00:34:39] No, that's for real.
[00:34:40] But that is.
[00:34:42] Go ahead.
[00:34:42] But that's just until.
[00:34:43] Excuse me, Keith.
[00:34:44] Let me interrupt you.
[00:34:45] That was just until Trump takes office.
[00:34:48] So, you know, they had a.
[00:34:50] Biden didn't get the job done.
[00:34:52] He still had like 25, 30 appointees.
[00:34:55] He's the worst of the lot that had difficulties in their screenings, initial hearings, meetings with Republican senators and all that.
[00:35:05] And so they they cut a deal.
[00:35:07] I'm not saying I was happy about this, but the Republicans would have had to gone to the wall with every kind of procedural thing known to mankind
[00:35:14] to keep all of them, including the appeals or circuit court judges from going through.
[00:35:21] So they cut a deal.
[00:35:21] They got the four judges in that.
[00:35:24] They blocked the four judges in the higher court, but they brought in all these Bolsheviks at the lower court level.
[00:35:31] And it was unfortunate.
[00:35:32] I understand there are a lot more than four, though.
[00:35:35] Yeah, yeah, 12.
[00:35:36] I think you were right.
[00:35:37] I think it's no.
[00:35:38] I think it's 12.
[00:35:39] But anyway, this isn't ongoing.
[00:35:41] This is just until the new Congress comes in, I think, January 3rd.
[00:35:46] And at that point, you're going to have the White House.
[00:35:48] You're going to have the Senate.
[00:35:49] You're going to have the House.
[00:35:50] You're going to have the Supreme Court, you know, for all intents and purposes.
[00:35:53] So we'll see what he does with it.
[00:35:55] But right now, based upon what we've seen, I think by this point in 2016, we were already beginning to scratch our heads a little bit and saying, well, what's going on here?
[00:36:04] Not so much this time.
[00:36:06] I know.
[00:36:06] Look, if you people could justify anything.
[00:36:09] That's what the late great Bill Rowland told me.
[00:36:10] And it stuck with me.
[00:36:11] If you want to find a reason to be despondent, there's material out there.
[00:36:16] But if you want to find reasons to be hopeful, Brad Griffin at OccidentalDissent.com, a good friend of ours who's tuned in tonight and says hello.
[00:36:24] And we say hello right back to you, Brad.
[00:36:26] He's dropping white pills all over the place.
[00:36:28] I mean, there's just a lot going on.
[00:36:30] He monitors the headlines and the polls as he's really a savant.
[00:36:35] Trump says Gaza wants ceasefire before the inauguration.
[00:36:40] Mexico tends to help Trump stop illegal immigration.
[00:36:43] He goes into all of these things.
[00:36:45] The issues that are priorities for voters, Israel and Hezbollah reaching a ceasefire agreement.
[00:36:51] He has a post entitled The Bright Side.
[00:36:52] There's just so much going on that's actually good that he couldn't cover it all.
[00:36:58] They just put it all in one post.
[00:36:59] And then the thing in the U.K. where the Labor Party is accusing the Tories of supporting open borders.
[00:37:06] So now you've got this Keir Starmer trying to sound like a nationalist.
[00:37:09] So there is a lot going on out there.
[00:37:11] The reverberations.
[00:37:13] Perception can be the ultimate reality sometimes.
[00:37:16] The reverberations of what this thing means is hitting in distant ports of call around the world.
[00:37:23] Had Trump lost, they could have very easily said nationalism was on the ballot and it was rejected.
[00:37:28] They can't say that right now because our issues were winning issues.
[00:37:32] We'll talk to Lou a little bit more about that in his final segment in a moment.
[00:37:36] But first, Lou, I just want to ask you of all the things that have happened since November 5th, what has been the most pleasantly surprising to you?
[00:37:46] Well, I got to say I'm pretty excited about this Doge thing, James.
[00:37:51] I mean, you know, I've been involved in Republican politics literally since I was like 10 years old.
[00:37:58] I mean, I was licking stamps in the Ronald Reagan campaign office when he ran for governor in California.
[00:38:04] I went around with my mom for Barry Goldwater.
[00:38:07] But, you know, the Republicans have talked every election cycle since then.
[00:38:10] Oh, we got to cut the budget.
[00:38:12] The most important thing is we cut the budget.
[00:38:14] And, you know, it's just been a joke.
[00:38:16] It's been ridiculous.
[00:38:17] But it isn't a joke anymore.
[00:38:19] And to me, that is because, I mean, we absolutely have to do that for every 100 reasons.
[00:38:26] Is this a new department, something that we haven't had before, this Doge, or not?
[00:38:33] It's not a new department.
[00:38:34] It's really just Elon Musk and Vivek and people that they're getting to work for free for them and then working with the House and the Senate Appropriations Committees in some fashion.
[00:38:46] But it's actually just a blunt instrument that's off to the side that Trump has that he can use.
[00:38:53] And, you know, I didn't mention this earlier, but with these court cases, you know, civil service employees still have their protection.
[00:39:01] So you can't go up to a civil service employee and say, you know, you're fired.
[00:39:05] You know, you can't hardly do that unless they've committed a murder or something.
[00:39:09] But you cannot remove.
[00:39:10] A hatchet.
[00:39:11] That's a hatchet, right?
[00:39:12] Yeah, but you can't remove a whole department.
[00:39:15] You could take out a whole department as a reduction in force, a force reduction.
[00:39:20] And these court cases have made that a lot easier to do because they've said a lot of this administrating stuff they've done and regulating and whatnot can be whacked.
[00:39:31] And so, you know, that's two good things that can happen at the same time.
[00:39:34] And the table's set for that.
[00:39:36] So we'll have to see.
[00:39:37] But I'm, you know, that's not the only thing I'm excited about, but I'm pretty dang excited about that.
[00:39:43] Plus, people are now even talking about getting rid of the Fed.
[00:39:47] I'm sorry, go ahead.
[00:39:49] I thought I heard the music.
[00:39:51] Anyway.
[00:39:51] No, if there's anything in particular that you have inside information about that they're about to cut out.
[00:39:57] Yeah, we want you to be sure to tell us publicly on the air.
[00:40:02] Hey, I will tell you one thing about Doge, getting back to that and Musk.
[00:40:09] Look, Musk is mostly the real deal.
[00:40:13] I know people could say he's schizophrenic here and there, but there has been so much that he's done that is good.
[00:40:20] And he is motivated on a very personal level by this terrible story about one of his children who, you know.
[00:40:27] Yes.
[00:40:28] He'd gotten bad advice and underwent the hormone treatment and all of that.
[00:40:32] And Elon Musk is very sincere in waging this righteous battle against wokeism.
[00:40:40] And again, this benefits us.
[00:40:42] This is our program.
[00:40:43] I mean, this is very congruent with what we are about.
[00:40:46] And Elon Musk, I don't want to say he has veto power on the Trump appointments, but he is advising Trump every step of the way.
[00:40:52] And Trump is listening to him.
[00:40:53] This is all good to say.
[00:40:55] It is not good.
[00:40:56] You're not right.
[00:40:57] It is good.
[00:40:58] We'll be right back.
[00:40:59] One more segment with the great Lou Moore.
[00:41:00] Stay tuned.
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[00:43:36] Whatever your disposition is, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to make you smile.
[00:43:40] We're going to make you happy before the end of this year if we've not done so.
[00:43:45] Hopefully we do so every week.
[00:43:46] But if you're a conservative, we will do that.
[00:43:48] Well, populous.
[00:43:49] We'll probably irritate the daylights out of you if you're not.
[00:43:52] I don't think they listen to us.
[00:43:54] But populist, nationalist, you name it.
[00:43:56] We've got some good stuff coming your way before the end of the year.
[00:44:01] Only five shows left.
[00:44:03] That's a little bit sad as that means another year is behind us.
[00:44:06] But it's been a great year.
[00:44:08] And was it Junior's wife who said at the convention in 2020, the best is yet to come?
[00:44:18] We're going to try to get there.
[00:44:20] And we're getting there right now.
[00:44:21] Lou Moore, fantastic.
[00:44:24] Lou, I've got to tell you, and I have told you this.
[00:44:27] I have told you this, and you know this.
[00:44:28] But really, this is a special year for us, as you know, 20 years on the radio.
[00:44:34] And one of the highlights of this year has really been getting to work with you
[00:44:37] and to get to know you better.
[00:44:39] And we hit it off fast, and we've seen each other, and we've met,
[00:44:43] and broken bread, and had you on the show a couple of times.
[00:44:45] But I really appreciate your work and your constancy and your dedication to all of these things,
[00:44:51] going out and ringing doorbells with your mom for Goldwater.
[00:44:54] And still, all these years later, still in the fight.
[00:44:57] And now, finally, we're all seeing the fruit of that.
[00:45:01] And this brings me to a question I've got to ask you.
[00:45:04] I think you and Pat Buchanan are the only guys that can track back to Goldwater that are left.
[00:45:08] There's a few.
[00:45:09] But, yeah, I'll tell you, that goes back a minute.
[00:45:12] But so you look at all of these things, and this is what's bigger than Trump.
[00:45:16] Because, again, it has to be bigger than an individual.
[00:45:19] It has to be a movement.
[00:45:20] It has to be a collective.
[00:45:21] But you look at not just border security, but deportation.
[00:45:26] This is a winning issue now.
[00:45:28] The whole Republican Party, I mean, the neocons could always come back.
[00:45:32] But they're out right now.
[00:45:34] Trade protectionism.
[00:45:35] This is a big issue for Buchanan and Paul.
[00:45:38] Withdrawing from foreign entanglements.
[00:45:40] Big issue.
[00:45:41] Tariffs.
[00:45:41] So many issues.
[00:45:43] These are winning issues now.
[00:45:45] They have been made winning issues by, you've got to give it a name, Donald Trump.
[00:45:51] So I've got to ask you, this was something you've worked on your whole life.
[00:45:54] Those Paul campaigns were transformative.
[00:45:56] Do you feel, and be honest, do you feel a personal sense of satisfaction having served as the campaign manager of a bid that really,
[00:46:06] as we've said it a couple of times already, whether it's given credit or not, it absolutely laid a foundation for the Trumpian era.
[00:46:15] Paul and Buchanan.
[00:46:17] Trumpian era.
[00:46:18] Do you feel as though this is something that's very satisfying to you personally?
[00:46:24] Oh, absolutely.
[00:46:25] Oh, absolutely, James.
[00:46:26] I mean, there's no doubt about it.
[00:46:27] And there's not any reason for me to take a lot of credit for that.
[00:46:31] But Dr. Paul, Dr. Paul lit a fire across this country.
[00:46:36] And, you know, I mean, I say in my book, Ron Paul ignited a grassroots explosion.
[00:46:42] But in 2016, a bigger bomb went off inside the GOP.
[00:46:48] But, you know, the first Tea Parties were part of our campaign in 2008.
[00:46:54] And, of course, you know, that's the real precursor as far, you know, as a lot of the actors that are still around Donald Trump today,
[00:47:04] you know, they came out of the Tea Party.
[00:47:06] But the Tea Party really got launched with the second money bomb that we did and this big rally that Rand had in Boston.
[00:47:16] And so, you know, I do take a satisfaction in that.
[00:47:21] But, you know, there was a trifecta.
[00:47:23] I think we've talked about it.
[00:47:25] I did a show on it.
[00:47:26] The trifecta of issues, trade, immigration, and endless wars.
[00:47:34] And, you know, this is where Buchanan was at solidly.
[00:47:37] He was completely right about what was happening.
[00:47:42] And completely alone at that time as Paul was.
[00:47:44] Pretty lonely.
[00:47:44] Pretty lonely back then.
[00:47:46] He had a big ally in my old boss, Jack Metcalf.
[00:47:48] But, you know, the trade issue.
[00:47:52] And then, of course, just the unbelievable illegal immigration.
[00:47:57] This goes back to the 1970s.
[00:48:00] Immigration across our border.
[00:48:01] And most Republicans didn't even have the guts to even bring it up for years.
[00:48:06] But those two issues.
[00:48:07] And that begs a question.
[00:48:09] Yeah.
[00:48:09] The question it begs is, why did Trump succeed where Buchanan and Paul were failed?
[00:48:20] I think in some cases you have to wait to arrive at the intersection of timing and circumstance before something can take flight.
[00:48:28] But I would love to hear Lou's answer to that question.
[00:48:30] No, no, 100 percent.
[00:48:31] But, you know, Trump brought a lot else to the table outside of similar issues.
[00:48:37] Universal name recognition.
[00:48:38] A billionaire.
[00:48:39] He was a billionaire.
[00:48:41] Yeah.
[00:48:41] Totally.
[00:48:41] He definitely had some intangibles.
[00:48:43] And he also had more brass than a monkey has on his ass.
[00:48:50] Yes, that's a good way to put it.
[00:48:52] But, you know, I mean, I take nothing away from the Tea Party.
[00:48:57] And, you know, those folks were out there.
[00:48:59] And I went to Tea Party rallies.
[00:49:01] Pretty big rallies up in western Washington.
[00:49:04] They didn't stick the landing, Lou.
[00:49:06] I mean, they were good people, but they didn't, you know.
[00:49:09] They didn't have that magical confluence of factors that Trump had.
[00:49:15] Well, I was sympathetic.
[00:49:17] Yeah, they were.
[00:49:17] No, but there was a network.
[00:49:20] I mean, there was a network there.
[00:49:22] They were much purer ideologically.
[00:49:23] Yeah, and there was a lot of astroturfing going on.
[00:49:26] And they tried to keep them away from the immigration issue and the trade issue, the corporate people.
[00:49:31] But all that being said, there was a network out there that Trump could seize onto.
[00:49:37] I mean, you know, it couldn't just be Trump.
[00:49:40] There had to be people out there in the grassroots to carry his message.
[00:49:43] And so I give them credit.
[00:49:45] I give them credit for that.
[00:49:46] But anyway, it is very satisfying.
[00:49:48] Well, yeah, we were all sympathetic.
[00:49:49] But, I mean, you could see at some point it began to get co-opted.
[00:49:53] And it just wasn't going to lead us to where we are now.
[00:49:57] But that's not taking anything away from the people and their sympathies.
[00:50:00] Because they were certainly in line with us on a lot of things.
[00:50:03] Now, Lou, time is fleeting.
[00:50:07] We're just about out of it for this hour.
[00:50:10] We will have you back on as soon as we can, as soon as you're available.
[00:50:13] Let me put it that way.
[00:50:14] Hopefully no later than maybe the first of the year, maybe sometime in January.
[00:50:17] I would love to just have you back when things settle down a little bit.
[00:50:20] It's been such a frantic year with everything that's been going on.
[00:50:23] And it's been too much to even possibly recap it with everything that's been in the news.
[00:50:30] But I'd love to have you back on for just a show to talk about Ron Paul.
[00:50:33] You'd be our man from Havana or our man from D.C.
[00:50:35] We need to get the inside scoop on this.
[00:50:38] Well, Ron, you had some great Ron Paul stories.
[00:50:41] I'd love for you to tell the story about how he outpaced the press at Mackinac Island in Michigan.
[00:50:47] That was a great story.
[00:50:48] We'll get to that next time you're on.
[00:50:50] But I want to plug your book very quickly because it's something we're going to get into the hands of a lot of listeners this month.
[00:50:57] And more on that in the next hour.
[00:50:59] But your book, Forerunner, The Unlikely Role of Ron Paul.
[00:51:02] I love this book.
[00:51:03] I have it.
[00:51:04] It is a behind-the-scenes look into not only the campaign but the issues that animated it and led us to where we are today.
[00:51:13] We've been touching on it, obviously, this hour.
[00:51:14] Or you can get it for yourself at lewmoore.com, and there will be other ways you can get it, too, with our Christmas appeal here with TPC.
[00:51:25] Again, more on that in the next hour.
[00:51:27] But, Luke, give us the thing that people should be taking away from the book.
[00:51:34] What is the one thing you want people to take away after they receive and read your book, as Keith and I have done?
[00:51:41] Well, if you can work around the corporate media, which we've been able to do, and you get some people with some courage, which we've been able to do that, too, I think, to a degree.
[00:51:52] You know, we can beat this B system, this corporate tyranny that's been over our people for, what, 100 years now?
[00:52:01] And the timing is right for that.
[00:52:03] It's just been building, you know, starting with Buchanan but certainly starting with Dr. Paul's campaign in 2008.
[00:52:11] And, you know, and it continues.
[00:52:13] And we will be disappointed by Trump on many things.
[00:52:15] But there are a lot of openings.
[00:52:17] I mean, for crying out loud, James, I'm hearing this guy on TV working with Elon Musk saying, this is great.
[00:52:23] We're going to get nothing but high IQ people in the government.
[00:52:27] Yes, yes.
[00:52:28] What does that exactly mean?
[00:52:29] Well, we can read between the lines.
[00:52:32] Well, and then his stuff on immigration about poisoning the blood and all of these things.
[00:52:39] I mean, yes, there's that out there.
[00:52:42] But it's all right.
[00:52:44] There's nothing to be ashamed about.
[00:52:45] I mean, we shouldn't be beating around the bush on these issues.
[00:52:48] But get the book, by the way, with Lou's book.
[00:52:51] And be sure to go to loumore.com and tune into his Hour of Decision podcast.
[00:52:57] Great insights.
[00:52:58] Prescient analysis.
[00:52:59] It's all there at loumore.com.
[00:53:03] And, Lou, I know we'll talk again, at least hopefully behind the scenes or even with a text message or what have you, before Christmas.
[00:53:11] But just in case, Merry Christmas.
[00:53:13] God bless you.
[00:53:14] And thank you.
[00:53:15] Thank you for all you've done in your career and for being with us tonight.
[00:53:18] We are all here.
[00:53:19] We all stand on the shoulders of the people who came before us.
[00:53:22] And thank you for being there and for sticking your head above the parapet.
[00:53:27] Well, thank you, guys.
[00:53:28] And Merry Christmas to you.
[00:53:29] And thank you for the last 20 years of sticking to it.
[00:53:33] I mean, come on.
[00:53:34] You guys have done great with this.
[00:53:34] You know what you would call 20 years, Lou?
[00:53:37] You would call it a good start.
[00:53:38] But we're proud of it.
[00:53:39] You've been around longer than us and doing these things and have had a great impact.
[00:53:44] And, again, we're happy to be a part of it and happy to be able to be in contact with you.
[00:53:52] Keith?
[00:53:52] Let me leave one thing with you about Goldwater.
[00:53:56] Goldwater apparently had a big supporter in Michigan that took him to the country club at Gros Point.
[00:54:01] And he was told that they didn't allow Jews to play golf there.
[00:54:06] Goldwater had the best reply ever.
[00:54:07] He said, well, I'm only half Jewish.
[00:54:09] Can I play nine holes?
[00:54:11] I know that story, Keith.
[00:54:13] Keith?
[00:54:15] Hey, in your heart, you know he's right.
[00:54:18] That was, I believe, that was the old KFA commercial.
[00:54:21] Thank you, Lou.
[00:54:22] We'll talk to you again soon.
[00:54:24] Enjoy the rest of your holiday weekend with your family.
[00:54:26] I know you're busy.
[00:54:27] And we'll be back with the second hour next.
[00:54:29] It's going to be hard to top it, but we're going to try.
[00:54:31] Stay tuned, everybody.