[00:00:01] [SPEAKER_03]: You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network and this is the Political Cesspool.
[00:00:13] [SPEAKER_03]: The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist
[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_03]: conservative radio program.
[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James
[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Edwards.
[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_12]: Ladies and gentlemen, buckle up for tonight's show.
[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_12]: As excited as I always am to come into the studio, even after 20 years, I am even more
[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_12]: excited tonight.
[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_12]: We have got a great, and I do mean exceptionally good program lined up for you tonight.
[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_12]: And stick around for the entire show this evening.
[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_12]: I've got some messages and some announcements and some things I want you to know.
[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_12]: I'll be speaking to the audience one on one in the third hour.
[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_12]: You're going to be thoroughly informed before we get there though.
[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_12]: Coming up in the second hour of tonight's live broadcast, this final day of August,
[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_12]: turning the corner, preparing for the home stretch of this presidential campaign.
[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_12]: Coming up in the second hour tonight, Lou Moore.
[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_12]: Lou Moore was a congressional chief of staff and the national campaign manager for Ron
[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_12]: Paul's presidential campaign.
[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_12]: And I got to talk to this guy on the phone this week, and I couldn't have been more
[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_12]: impressed and I couldn't get him on the show fast enough.
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_12]: I think you're going to love what he has to say, his insights, his thoughts.
[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_12]: How does this savvy political operative see things shaping up?
[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_12]: What does he think of the modern GOP?
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_12]: We're going to cover all of that and more with Ron Paul's presidential campaign manager
[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_12]: in the second hour.
[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_12]: But first, but first, is President Kamala Harris inevitable?
[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_12]: To answer that question is our dear good friend Mark Weber, director of the Institute
[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_12]: for Historical Review, making his second appearance this month and padding his all-time
[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_12]: stat total as one of our top five guys here in terms of appearances made.
[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_12]: Mark, great to have you back.
[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_12]: I think between you and Lou Moore, we've got a powerful one-two punch for the folks
[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_12]: tonight.
[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_13]: Well, thank you very much, James.
[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_13]: It's always great to be on with you.
[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_13]: And I agree these are very important issues we're talking about, especially during this
[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_13]: very exceptional election campaign.
[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_12]: Is it not?
[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, I have said this many times.
[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_12]: I'll say it again.
[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_12]: I can remember about a year ago, about a year ago right now, and all the way
[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_12]: Christmas and New Year's of 23 saying, folks, you're going to see things in 24 you've never
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_12]: seen before.
[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, this is going to be a year unlike anything in American political history.
[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_12]: And certainly it has been.
[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_12]: It has been in so many ways, ways that I can't even fully recount now because
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_12]: things have happened and shifted so many times.
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_12]: But the trials of Trump and the felony convictions and the assassination attempt
[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_12]: and this, I mean, the most democracy dies in darkness.
[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_12]: So they tell us the most undemocratic coup I've ever seen installing as a
[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_12]: nominee for one of the two parties, a person who's never received a vote for
[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_12]: president in her life.
[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_12]: And I understand there has to be a mechanism if someone is incapacitated or dies.
[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, there has to be I understand that.
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_12]: But this was a coup plain and simple.
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_12]: They knew that Biden was suffering all of these infirmities before that debate.
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_12]: And it was all structured.
[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_12]: We've talked about that.
[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_12]: But I will tell you this, if Biden was six points ahead instead of six points behind
[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_12]: after that debate, he would still be in there.
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_12]: And that's all there is to that.
[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_12]: So yes, it has been an unprecedented year, but that is what we are here
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_12]: to talk about now without any further ado.
[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_12]: Let's turn the program over to you, Mark.
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_12]: You think that Kamala Harris is increasingly likely to be elected president.
[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_12]: Let's start there.
[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_13]: Yes, I do.
[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_13]: And one of the reasons I think that was her remarkable acceptance speech
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_13]: at the Democratic National Convention.
[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_13]: What struck me most strongly about that speech was how she positioned herself
[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_13]: as a patriot in that speech.
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_13]: Much of what she said in that speech could have been written
[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_13]: and spoken by speechwriters and by Ronald Reagan when he was president.
[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_13]: I have not heard any Democrat in recent years talk so, quote unquote,
[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_13]: patriotically as Kamala Harris did in that speech.
[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_13]: I'm just going to read just a few lines of that.
[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_13]: She said, on behalf of Americans like the people I grew up with,
[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_13]: people who work hard, chase their dreams and look out for one another
[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_13]: on behalf of everyone whose story could only be written
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_13]: in the greatest nation on earth.
[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_13]: I accept your nomination for president of the United States.
[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_13]: With this election, our nation has a precious fleeting opportunity
[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_13]: to move past the bitterness, cynicism and divisive
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_13]: at battles of the past, a chance to chart a new way forward,
[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_13]: as members of any one party or faction, but as Americans.
[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_13]: She said, you can always trust me to put country above party itself
[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_13]: to hold sacred America's fundamental principles.
[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_13]: I will be a president who unites us around our highest aspirations.
[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_13]: Now, that's the way Ronald Reagan used to talk.
[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_13]: Now, that rhetoric is spoken by her in a way that
[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_13]: is surprising for many people who, of course, say she's a leftist.
[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_13]: She is a leftist.
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_13]: But that's the point is that America has been a leftist country
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_13]: who has been moving in that direction for many years,
[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_13]: even when Ronald Reagan was president.
[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_13]: Anyway, the parallels are very striking.
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_13]: And because her speech is really aimed at reassuring people
[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_13]: who want to hear a patriotic message because she already knows
[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_13]: she can count on the support of, for want of a better word,
[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_13]: the left or the liberal side in America,
[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_13]: this will resonate with a lot of people.
[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_13]: And it's very hard for people who call themselves patriotic,
[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_13]: conservative to criticize her for what she said in that speech.
[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_13]: I'm not saying this is sincere or honest,
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_13]: but the point is that message will resonate with a lot of people
[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_13]: who want reassurance, who want to believe that this is
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_13]: the greatest country on earth and who don't want to hear criticism
[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_13]: by people who say, no, there's big, big, big problems in America.
[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_13]: They want to hear things are great or we might have trouble,
[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_13]: but this is the greatest country on earth
[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_13]: and we're going to move ahead to the future.
[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_13]: In other words, we're going to continue the trajectory
[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_13]: that America's been on for 40, 50 years.
[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_13]: And the Republican Party has a confused answer to that.
[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_13]: And anyway, this is one of the reasons why it's very hard
[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_13]: to see how she could fail to really win
[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_13]: unless something dramatic happens.
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_13]: And as you know, a lot of dramatic things have been happening
[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_13]: in this campaign and so it's still not certain.
[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_13]: But there's momentum in the Harris campaign
[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_13]: that there's not in the Trump campaign.
[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_13]: And that's why at this point, it certainly looks like Harris will win,
[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_13]: a point that's confirmed increasingly by polling data as well.
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_12]: Well, if you go back to you set the table expertly,
[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_12]: as you always do, we're going to spend the rest of this hour
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_12]: unpacking so many different aspects to what you just laid out.
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_12]: But there is no doubt that at the time of that debate,
[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_12]: and I was talking to Congressman Stockman a few days ago
[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_12]: and just how everything as in hindsight, you look at it now,
[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_12]: how everything was just so perfectly planned out by the Democrats,
[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_12]: how they have just utterly out maneuvered the Republicans
[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_12]: and setting that debate up so early to give them plenty of time
[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_12]: to replace Biden before the convention and so much more.
[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_12]: We got into that in a recent interview.
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_12]: And they have eviscerated Trump's lead.
[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_12]: In the battleground states and the national polling averages, it's all gone.
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_12]: However, I would submit that Trump is in much better standing at this point,
[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_12]: August 31st than he was on this day in 2020 or even 2016, the election he won.
[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_12]: He is in better shape.
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_12]: Within the margin of error, it's literally within.
[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't care if Harris wins the national vote by 20 points.
[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_12]: All that matters is these five or six swing states.
[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_12]: So that's it.
[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_12]: So that's where people have to focus.
[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_12]: So he is in better shape now than he was at this point
[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_12]: in either of the last two presidential cycles.
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_12]: But with that being said, I do agree with your assessment
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_12]: that her speech was good.
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_12]: Did she mean any of it?
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_12]: Certainly not.
[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_12]: Certainly not.
[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_12]: But the Democrats were smart enough to say, listen, we've got, as you mentioned,
[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_12]: all the left-wing vote locked up.
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_12]: Let's try to entrench some of these moderates or uncommitted
[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_12]: or independents or whatever, conservatives who don't like Trump.
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_12]: Let's give them this rhetoric and see if we can skate in.
[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_12]: And if they do, and if they do, and if that's effective,
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_12]: you're going to see, I think, the most radical left-wing administration
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_12]: in the history of America.
[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't think it'll even be close.
[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_12]: Writing for Counter Currents, Jim Goad submitted this.
[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_12]: Since most voters are so dumb, it's a miracle that they can even fill out
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_12]: their ballot.
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_12]: And since they wouldn't understand the issues,
[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_12]: even if politicians were honest about them,
[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_12]: most presidential campaigns amount to little more than flagrantly deceptive PR blitzes.
[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_12]: And I think that's exactly what we're seeing here, Mark.
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_12]: And they're counting that they can ride the crest of the novelty
[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_12]: of this woman being put in just a few weeks before the election
[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_12]: all the way through November.
[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_12]: And if it's effective, hey, more power to them because they were smarter
[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_12]: than the opposition.
[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_12]: And we've got to be as smart and as ruthless and as cunning as our enemies are.
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_13]: Well, yes, that's true.
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_13]: But candidates coming to the fore through a media blitz
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_13]: is nothing new in American history.
[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_13]: That's an old story.
[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_13]: In 1940, the loose...
[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_13]: Media empire.
[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_12]: Hold on.
[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_12]: I promise we'll pick it up right there.
[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_12]: I hear the music.
[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_12]: We've got to take our first break.
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_12]: We are talking about the ascension of Kamala Harris,
[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_12]: now the front runner to be the next president of the United States
[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_12]: and how and why that happened and what Mark Weber thinks about it.
[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_12]: We'll pick it up right there, these PR blitzes.
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[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_12]: Back with Mark Webber talking about the current political conditions as we said here
[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_12]: at the end of August, very beginning of September.
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_12]: This election is really coming fast now.
[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_12]: When Mark was on a few weeks ago, we were looking at this thing in wide screen.
[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_12]: Regardless of who wins the current election,
[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_12]: what is the future for our people and our nation and all of this?
[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_12]: And we looked at historical precedents and tried to extrapolate that.
[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_12]: It was a fascinating conversation as it always is when Mark is on.
[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_12]: But tonight, we are talking about the current, the here and the now.
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_12]: Yes, Mark, obviously PR blitzes and trying to fashion public opinion around a candidate
[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_12]: is a tale as old as time.
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_12]: But I don't know if this one doesn't take the cake.
[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know if there isn't a little bit something extra going on here because
[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_12]: I would submit to you, and we've mentioned this on several shows in recent months,
[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_12]: but Kamala Harris was so far to the left,
[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_12]: she was so hugely unlikable in the 2020 presidential campaign cycle when she
[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_12]: ran in the Democratic primaries.
[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_12]: She was in all of those debates on the Democratic primary debates in 2019.
[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_12]: She finished dead last in the field and was polling at, I believe, 0%.
[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_12]: She didn't even make it to New Hampshire and Iowa in the early contest of 2020
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_12]: because she had no support.
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_12]: But because she was a non-white woman, she gets tapped as VP.
[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_12]: And now, as we've seen, the rest is history.
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_12]: But she was running a very far left campaign in 2019.
[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_12]: And now she is repackaged and rebranded as a Reagan acolyte, which is interesting.
[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_12]: And I guess, you know, as Jim Goad said, American people are so stupid that they
[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_12]: that they may buy this.
[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_12]: It seems like right now they are buying it.
[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_12]: Trump still has two months to set the record straight on this.
[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_12]: But I think one thing I would also point to, Mark, and then get back to your
[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_12]: thoughts on this PR blitz and how it's helping her and how it's been done in
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_12]: the past, but the economy, the economy, literally the Democratic message
[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_12]: without any exaggeration when Biden was still in the race was
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_12]: the economy is great under Biden.
[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_12]: And now that Kamala Harris, she's running as if she wasn't part of that
[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_12]: administration.
[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_12]: She's running as if she's the challenger to Trump's incumbent, incumbency.
[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_12]: It went from the economy is great under Biden to Kamala Harris is going
[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_12]: to fix our terrible economy.
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_12]: And nobody's supposed to notice that.
[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, what is going on here?
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_13]: Well, in many ways, James, the public understands that neither
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_13]: candidate is really very sincere.
[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_13]: That's just taken for granted now by everyone and flip-flopping on the
[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_13]: issues is nothing new.
[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_13]: It's true of Donald Trump as well.
[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, I was going to say in 1940, Wendell Wilkie was the media made him
[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_13]: a big figure and he got the Democrat nomination in 1940.
[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_13]: Even though up until 1940, he had been a registered Democrat, even
[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_13]: though he had never held any office whatsoever.
[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_13]: But the Time magazine, Life magazine, the Life Time newsreel effort boomed
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_13]: as a candidate and he got the nomination and did reasonably well.
[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_13]: Actually did much better than the Republicans did four years earlier, but
[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_13]: there's nothing new.
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_13]: And Donald Trump essentially could never have gotten the traction he did
[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_13]: if he wasn't known from the show of television show, The Apprentice.
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_13]: But the reason people are rallying around the Democrats are rallying
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_13]: around Kamala Harris is because they don't want Donald Trump.
[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_13]: And Donald Trump in a sense got the nomination in 2016 because millions
[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_13]: of people didn't like what the Democratic Party and the trajectory
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_13]: of America stood for.
[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_13]: That's why this election is really an election about whether you believe
[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_13]: in the trajectory of America, not just people don't care really
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_13]: particularly that the specific issues that Kamala Harris might be
[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_13]: flip-flopping on or squishy on and so forth.
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_13]: What they basically think is with Kamala Harris and her entourage,
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_13]: you could say in power, America will sort of continue as it has been
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_13]: for the last 50 years.
[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_13]: Again, the push to the left isn't something that just Democrats
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_13]: have been guilty of, Republicans have been guilty of themselves,
[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_13]: including even Ronald Reagan.
[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_13]: It was Ronald Reagan who signed Martin Luther King Day into a national
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_13]: holiday.
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, Republicans are guilty of this themselves
[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_13]: and all they do end up doing is to affirm the trajectory only belatedly,
[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_13]: only after it's already in place.
[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_13]: And then they say they promised to embrace it and make it even better
[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_13]: but they don't return to what the situation had been before.
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_13]: Both parties are guilty of this.
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, so that's not a big issue.
[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_13]: The big issue is basically who do you think is going to provide
[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_13]: more reassurance or stability for the future?
[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_13]: And millions of people, even though they are not happy,
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_13]: they don't really trust Donald Trump to chart any reliable way
[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_13]: to the future.
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_13]: Donald Trump has a lot of defects.
[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_13]: He's gone back and forth himself up until 2010.
[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_13]: He gave more money to the Democratic candidates than the Republican
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_13]: candidates.
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_12]: You will remember, Mark, of course, that Warren Balog did an expert
[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_12]: treatment on the differences between Trump in 2020 when he was,
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_12]: excuse me, 2000, Trump of 2000 when he was going challenging Pat
[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_12]: Buchanan for the Reform Party nomination and how left-wing he was
[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_12]: compared to what he came back as as a repackaged candidate in 2016.
[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_12]: But at least there was a decade plus there.
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, what we're seeing with Kamala Harris is a shift over
[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_12]: a few weeks.
[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_12]: I understand that that is not necessarily anything new, but it is,
[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_12]: in fact, noteworthy.
[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_12]: But I would go back to the economy though, if for no other reason
[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_12]: than the economy is usually the one thing that will get an
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_12]: incumbent replaced.
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_12]: If it is bad and you're suffering inflation and you're suffering
[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_12]: higher prices, that is normally something that people just will
[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_12]: not tolerate.
[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_12]: And she is getting an absolute free pass, even though she was a part
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_12]: of the whole Biden administration, obviously, for the last four years
[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_12]: when all of this has occurred.
[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_12]: And it looks like people are willing to overlook that as well.
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_12]: Normally, if you know, this was going to be a very big cloud for
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_12]: Biden, but she is basically been able to absolve herself as even
[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_12]: been a part of this administration and just be this new shiny new
[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_12]: thing in politics.
[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_13]: Yes.
[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_13]: Well, that's all true.
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, of course.
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_13]: And the economy is how most people will.
[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_13]: But it's more, I think, a sense of kind of which candidate seems
[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_13]: more reliable over the next four years.
[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_13]: Donald Trump has a lot of flip flops of his own, a lot of defects
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_13]: of his own.
[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_13]: You know, polls show now that if the election involved only men,
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_13]: Donald Trump would win handily.
[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_13]: If the election involved only women, Kamala Harris would win without any
[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_13]: further ado.
[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_13]: Donald Trump, well, to put it bluntly, is very offensive to many women.
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_13]: Many women don't like the way he talks.
[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_13]: It's not the way any American politician of any party would have
[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_13]: ever talked just in the sort of insulting way he personalizes his
[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_13]: attacks in American history.
[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_13]: This is almost unknown in American history to make fun of people
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_13]: because they're fat or to make fun of, talk about how he's better looking
[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_13]: than another candidate would have been considered just out of bounds by all
[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_13]: Americans 30 years ago and before.
[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_13]: But now all that goes because the media has, Donald Trump benefits from
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_13]: this kind of media driven kind of society.
[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_12]: I was going to say actually, I think it's an attribute for him at this
[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_12]: point because people are so tired of the other side that they like
[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_12]: someone who will dish it back to them.
[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_13]: Well, yeah, it gets attention but it makes Donald Trump look unreliable
[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_13]: and Donald Trump himself as people who try to follow his own, who
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_13]: followed his campaign know he's gone back and forth on all sorts of
[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_13]: things at one time as you indicated but didn't say explicitly.
[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_13]: He thought the ideal vice presidential candidate would have been
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_13]: Oprah Winfrey.
[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_12]: That's right.
[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, he was he was in favor of a national health care plan
[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_13]: when he ran for president near 2000.
[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_13]: Now, he doesn't even talk about Obamacare which he promised to repeal
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_13]: and replace.
[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_13]: Now it's just not even talked about.
[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_13]: There's many other examples with Donald Trump.
[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_13]: My point is each of the candidates has defects but there's not
[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_13]: Kamala Harris herself but what she represents, the
[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_13]: Democratic Party or Continental Party, even the support of many
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_13]: Republicans in general and so forth who don't like Donald Trump
[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_13]: because you don't know what he'll actually do.
[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_13]: That makes Harris look more reassuring I think to millions of
[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_13]: Americans but I think what's really going on is something much
[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_13]: deeper.
[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_13]: You said earlier that you think Harris is not sincere when she
[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_13]: says America is the greatest nation, greatest country on earth.
[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_13]: Why not?
[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_13]: Well, what makes you think she's not?
[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_13]: She says we're a great country because a person like me with a
[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_13]: mother born in India and a father born in Jamaica, I've gotten to
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_13]: the point where I'm the nominee for the presidency of the United
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_13]: States.
[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_13]: She says that's proof that America is a great country.
[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_13]: That's what she means by that.
[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_13]: That's what a lot of people think they mean by it.
[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_13]: What do Republicans mean by it?
[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_13]: Well, it's a little unclear.
[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_13]: They talk about they want a country to be great again.
[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_13]: Well, what does it mean exactly to be quote great?
[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_13]: They're very vague about defining that precisely.
[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_12]: Well, I think certainly Kamala Harris is talking exclusively
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_12]: about the post-1965 America and not the historic America that
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_12]: you and I see it as being and what it is not anymore.
[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_12]: And the Republicans of course are too afraid to cater to
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_12]: their base and we'll talk about this with our friend
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_12]: Louis Moore on the next hour.
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_13]: James, that's the critical point is when we talk about
[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_13]: America or we what are people really talking about?
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_13]: When Ronald Reagan was had the backing of what was president,
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_13]: most white people assumed he wanted to keep America a kind
[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_13]: of white basically Christian Western kind of society in
[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_13]: which yeah, people who are not European Americans would
[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_13]: do okay.
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_13]: But it would essentially still be our country and by that
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_13]: I mean white Americans.
[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_13]: Kamala Harris has gone one step further.
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_13]: She says I want an America country for all Americans and
[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_12]: that's quick time out mark.
[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_12]: Pardon another interruption brother, but we're going to
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_12]: take a quick break.
[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_12]: We're going to come back.
[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_12]: Fascinating conversation.
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[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_14]: include record high spending on defense.
[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Tusk has described the main points of next year's budget as
[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_02]: generous and supported further economic growth.
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Tusk said some 48 and a half billion dollars will be spent
[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_02]: next year on increasing the defense of the nation, which
[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_02]: borders war-torn Ukraine and where security concerns are
[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_02]: high.
[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Tusk says the amount in defense spending was a
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_02]: significant increase from defense spending in 2024,
[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_02]: which accounts for over 4% of Poland's GDP.
[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_14]: That is correspondent Jeremy House reporting.
[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_14]: British police say two people have been critically injured in
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_14]: attacks while attending a carnival in London this week
[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_14]: and they've now died.
[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_14]: Two arrests have been made so far.
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[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_14]: Carnival, a two-day celebration that is billed as Europe's
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[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Extensive data suggests a fixation on appearance also can
[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_05]: affect self-esteem and body image and fuel anxiety,
[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_05]: depression, and eating disorders.
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_05]: The skincare obsession offers a window into the role social
[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_05]: media plays in the lives of today's youth and how it
[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_05]: shapes the ideals and insecurities of girls in
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[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Ron Taylor reporting.
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[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm back with my good friend and longtime
[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_12]: colleague Mark Weber of the Institute for Historical
[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_12]: Review.
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[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_12]: We're at the halfway point of this hour with Mark and so
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_12]: we'll recap just a few things we've covered before
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_12]: continuing on talking, of course, about the likelihood
[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_12]: of a Kamala Harris presidency and what it means
[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_12]: and how she got here.
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_12]: Now, I think somewhat interestingly, she didn't get
[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_12]: huge or the post-convention spike in polling that some
[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_12]: might have expected.
[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_12]: She seemed to have absorbed most of that before
[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_12]: the convention so that's relatively good news for
[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_12]: Trump, I guess, but she has taken over the
[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_12]: battleground states.
[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_12]: She has taken over the lead in the polls.
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_12]: She is the front runner.
[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_12]: Trump still in better position now than he was in 16
[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_12]: and in 20 on this day, August the 31st.
[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_12]: But Kamala Harris has been able to do this as
[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_12]: least known presidential nominee in history,
[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_12]: going from far left in 2020 to Ronald Reagan's daughter,
[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_12]: I guess.
[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_12]: Now she's a centrist and a patriot.
[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_12]: Classic bait and switch but as Mark said, obviously,
[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_12]: that's nothing new.
[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_12]: If you're looking at this, and I want to be very clear,
[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't want people to read between the lines
[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_12]: and what I'm saying and what I'm getting at.
[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_12]: Of course, when I heard that Trump was first running
[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_12]: in 2016, the first thing that came to my mind was,
[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_12]: oh, this guy.
[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_12]: This was the guy who called Pat a Nazi in 2020
[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_12]: and was doing all of this.
[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_12]: And didn't think anything of it.
[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_12]: Then I started listening to what he said
[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_12]: and I was like, well, we don't have any other
[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_12]: horse in this race so what the hell?
[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_12]: Maybe he's sincere.
[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_12]: I'll vote for him just in case.
[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_12]: What else am I going to do?
[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_12]: And he was at that point still a relatively
[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_12]: blank canvas upon which we could project our dreams
[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_12]: and hopes and desires.
[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_12]: And a lot of time has passed since 2016
[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_12]: so we could debate the pros and cons of Trump
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_12]: and we have for a decade now a lot to be said there,
[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_12]: a lot lacking.
[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_12]: But if you want to make a case,
[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_12]: if you want to make a case to still support Trump,
[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_12]: I think you could say that the left
[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_12]: is still our greatest enemy.
[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_12]: They're going to come for us.
[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_12]: There's no doubt about that.
[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_12]: I think they would have come for us
[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_12]: in this Biden administration if Trump hadn't
[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_12]: reemerged as a front runner.
[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_12]: They focused all their attention on either
[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_12]: putting him in prison or killing him.
[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_12]: That attention would have otherwise been gone
[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_12]: to putting in some UK Keir Stormer type
[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_12]: of legislation here in the states.
[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_12]: So he's a shield for us in that way.
[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_12]: A lot of folks getting appointed
[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_12]: not just to the Supreme Court.
[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_12]: Trump is better on the courts,
[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_12]: better on Ukraine, better on the economy,
[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_12]: better on immigration.
[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_12]: I think you could argue the platform is good.
[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_12]: This little 20-point, very small platform
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_12]: that Trump has put forth is good.
[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_12]: Does he mean any of it?
[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_12]: Is he any more sincere than Kamala?
[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_12]: Believe me, that can be debated.
[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_12]: I think here's where I land on this mark.
[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_12]: Here's where I land personally.
[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_12]: I will vote for Trump for a third time
[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_12]: for two reasons.
[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_12]: Not because I believe in him,
[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_12]: not because he's my hero,
[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_12]: not because I believe that our cause is his
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_12]: or anything like that.
[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_12]: Number one, I will vote for him to deny
[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_12]: the left the pleasure of seeing Kamala in.
[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_12]: One of the things that I have enjoyed the most
[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_12]: as a political commentator was watching
[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_12]: the wailing and the gnashing of teeth
[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_12]: in November of 2016 when Hillary was denied.
[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_12]: That is a petty reason, I will admit,
[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_12]: but I will vote for that reason.
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_12]: And because I think more practically,
[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_12]: the unhinged overreaction of Trump's enemies
[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_12]: has been a driving force of polarization
[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_12]: in American politics.
[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_12]: And if we can keep him active and around
[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_12]: for another four years to instill further chaos
[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_12]: into the system, I think we need the system to break.
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_12]: And I think he is an agent of chaos
[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_12]: and their overreaction makes him that.
[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_12]: So those are my reasons there.
[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_12]: Mark, how would you respond to that?
[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_13]: James, you gave very succinctly
[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_13]: and very well some reasons to vote for Trump,
[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_13]: but they're exactly the reasons why he's likely
[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_13]: to lose.
[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_13]: You called him, you said you're voting for him
[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_13]: in part because he's an agent of chaos.
[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_13]: That's not what most Americans want.
[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_13]: I agree with that.
[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_13]: They want an agent of stability.
[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_13]: They want an agent of reassurance
[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_13]: and Trump is not that man.
[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_13]: That's one of the reasons why oddly enough,
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_13]: Kamala Harris seems more quote unquote conservative
[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_13]: in the sense that if you want things to be stable,
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_13]: if you want things non-chaotic, you would vote for Harris.
[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_13]: That's one of the reasons why it's hard to see
[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_13]: how a man who you yourself say is an agent of chaos
[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_13]: is going to win the election.
[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_13]: He won the election in 2016
[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_13]: because he was the anti-establishment person.
[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_13]: Nobody knew quite what he would do,
[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_13]: but he called out the people in power.
[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_13]: That was a great thing.
[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_13]: That was a good, it was a necessary thing.
[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_13]: It's a valuable thing.
[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_13]: But as president, you can argue about it,
[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_13]: how much he really changed.
[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_13]: One of the things that I think almost all Trump supporters
[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_13]: will agree is he didn't do anywhere near
[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_13]: what he should have or what he promised
[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_13]: he was going to do and he's disappointing in that way.
[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_13]: But anyway, to go back to your point,
[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_13]: that's exactly the point I'm trying to make.
[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_13]: If the choice is between somebody who is a flip-flop,
[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_13]: a party, a member of the Democratic establishment
[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_13]: and who represents continuity, it's Kamala Harris.
[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_13]: If you want an agent of chaos,
[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_13]: a man who's you don't know what he'll say one day
[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_13]: or the next, yeah, you might vote for Trump.
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_13]: But most Americans don't want that.
[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_13]: They want stability.
[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_13]: They want reassurance.
[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_12]: But how about this though, Mark?
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, again, I'm not trying to make a case for Trump per se
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_12]: because I'm a big Trump supporter.
[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm just looking at this objectively
[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_12]: and my question is, as always, what's best for our people?
[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_12]: Is it better for us that Kamala comes in
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_12]: and we take our medicine
[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_12]: and whites have this great awakening?
[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_12]: If that's the case, then I'm all for that.
[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_12]: But sometimes worse is just worse.
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_12]: And I don't know for sure that her getting in
[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_12]: and worse being better is going to be the way it goes
[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_12]: because if they stack the Supreme Court
[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_12]: as they could do if they control both houses of Congress
[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_12]: and the presidency, if they end the filibuster,
[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_12]: if they try to go after DC and Puerto Rico as states
[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_12]: and put in four more permanent Democratic senators,
[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_12]: they're going to come down on why it's like nothing
[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_12]: we've ever seen before.
[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_12]: And again, if that's what's good for us,
[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_12]: if that's what it takes, then bring it on.
[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_12]: But I guess, frankly, after November,
[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_12]: we're not going to have to worry about it
[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_12]: because whatever is going to happen will happen
[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_12]: and then we can get on with it regardless.
[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_12]: But it's just hard to know because I will tell you,
[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_12]: and we talked about this the last time you were on,
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_12]: there's no consensus even amongst this audience,
[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_12]: which marches in lockstep on so many issues.
[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_12]: But as to what's better for us with this election,
[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_12]: you'd be shocked to find pro-white, white advocates
[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_12]: who think that, hey, we need to get on with it.
[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_13]: When you say what's better for us,
[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_13]: what do you mean by us?
[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_13]: What you really mean is European Americans.
[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_13]: You mean white Americans, really?
[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_12]: Of course.
[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_13]: You're not talking about all Americans.
[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_13]: And neither Trump or Kamala Harris as president
[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_13]: is going to change the basic demographic shift
[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_13]: that's already been in place for many years
[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_13]: and which both Republicans and Democrats,
[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_13]: including Trump, say that they like.
[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_13]: Trump isn't against it.
[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_13]: He's never objected to that.
[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_13]: In fact, the Republican convention recently
[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_13]: was a celebration of American diversity, if you will.
[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_13]: It was a celebration.
[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_13]: That's right.
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_13]: It was disgusting.
[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_13]: Ongoing third-worldization of America.
[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_13]: So what's really necessary and what is happening anyway,
[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_13]: no matter who wins, is what's dying is not America
[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_13]: but an illusion about America,
[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_13]: an idea of America that was never really quite true anyway
[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_13]: but is now increasingly obviously untrue.
[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_13]: The idea that we can have a first world country,
[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_13]: even if the population is a third-world one.
[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_13]: Look, I'm in California.
[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_13]: Voting for Trump or Harris here is almost meaningless.
[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_13]: It's like voting for Trump or Harris in Hawaii.
[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_13]: It's going to be overwhelmingly for Harris.
[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_13]: And that demographic shift that happened already in California
[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_13]: and in many other states is happening all across the country.
[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_13]: And as long as white Americans still think
[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_13]: that somehow if they just get the right candidate,
[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_13]: they can turn things around.
[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_13]: If they can just sort of get the right policies,
[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_13]: it's going to turn around.
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_13]: That's a delusion.
[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_13]: That's a fantasy.
[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_13]: And so what's necessary, what's important,
[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_13]: is for Americans to be realistic,
[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_13]: especially our people to be realistic,
[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_13]: to be grounded in reality.
[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_13]: Not in wishful thinking, not in delusion.
[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_12]: As Gregory Hood wrote in his article for Amron recently
[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_12]: under the surface, he writes again about the way
[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_12]: he channeled Pat Buchanan's 1992 culture war speech
[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_12]: about the Democrats being a bunch of cross-dressers
[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_12]: trying to appear as moderate when they were anything but.
[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_12]: And that was 92.
[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_12]: Gregory Hood writes this week,
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_12]: delegates to the convention talking about
[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_12]: the Democratic Convention,
[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_12]: which you've been talking about, Mark,
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_12]: worked hard to look moderate.
[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_12]: Delegates flew American flags, chanted USA,
[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_12]: and held USA signs.
[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_12]: Tim Walz played up his exaggerated Army record
[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_12]: and the DNC brought out the football team
[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_12]: that he coached, well, assisted, coached.
[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_12]: Kamala Harris even claimed to be for border security.
[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_12]: I guess, you know, what do you expect from the media?
[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_12]: The Democrats figured out that they could win
[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_12]: a campaign in 2020 with Biden not leaving his house,
[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_12]: much less doing interviews.
[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_12]: Kamala Harris is not doing interviews.
[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_12]: She did one with CNN.
[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_12]: It was a powder puff interview.
[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_12]: They're going to run cover for her.
[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_12]: And that's also something that is certainly not to be
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_12]: unexpected.
[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_12]: Gregory Hood writes with the media covering for her.
[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_12]: He agrees with Mark Webber that Kamala Harris is
[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_12]: favored to win.
[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_12]: Whites argue about ideology and what is good
[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_12]: for the country.
[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_12]: Non-whites don't.
[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_12]: It's all about what's good for them.
[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_12]: We have got to learn that lesson.
[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_12]: And yes, when I say what's best for us,
[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean our people.
[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_12]: That is all I mean, and that's all that I care about.
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_12]: One more segment with the great Mark Webber.
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[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_12]: One more segment with Mark Weber, IHR.org.
[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_12]: And I wanna give Mark all the time that we have left
[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_12]: to flesh out his thoughts and the things
[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_12]: that he wanted to share about this topic this hour.
[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_12]: But first I will just read one more excerpt
[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_12]: from Gregory Hood's excellent piece at amren.com
[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_12]: under the surface talking about,
[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_12]: forget how they are being packaged
[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_12]: by the media and their handlers.
[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_12]: But let's take a closer look
[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_12]: at who these people really are by way of their record.
[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_12]: And he focuses on Tim Walz in this excerpt,
[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_12]: Minnesota Governor Tim Walz serves as the pathetic
[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_12]: white sidekick straight out of a TV commercial.
[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_12]: This is not just the usual pablum
[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_12]: of sticking to cliches and avoiding specifics.
[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_12]: Vice President Harris refuses to list policies at all.
[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_12]: No center right candidate could wait such
[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_12]: an empty campaign and count on the media
[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_12]: for adoring coverage and protection from scrutiny.
[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_12]: Now, of course we knew she would have that.
[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_12]: They always have that.
[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_12]: But looking into Walz again,
[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_12]: and we did a whole hour on him
[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_12]: when he was first announced as the running mate to now,
[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_12]: presidential nominee Kamala Harris.
[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_12]: We know that Tim Walz pushed to turn Minnesota
[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_12]: into an abortion safe haven
[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_12]: just one day after the Supreme Court.
[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_12]: They didn't overturn Roe versus Way.
[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_12]: They kicked it back to the states.
[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_12]: But his first executive order as Minnesota Governor
[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_12]: was to establish a diversity inclusion and equity council.
[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_12]: He designated himself as the chair
[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_12]: of the one Minnesota council
[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_12]: on diversity, inclusion and equity.
[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_12]: He founded on his own volition
[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_12]: an LGBTQ club for high school boys.
[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_12]: Now that's weird.
[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_12]: You know, this whole thing, he's a genius
[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_12]: for saying that Vance is weird.
[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_12]: That's weird to me.
[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_12]: He signed legislation into Minnesota law
[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_12]: in March of 2023, allowing illegals
[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_12]: to obtain driver's licenses,
[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_12]: which opened the door for another 81,000 aliens
[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_12]: in Minnesota, signed legislation into law,
[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_12]: giving state funded healthcare
[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_12]: and free college tuition to illegals.
[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_12]: As governor, he has signed a bill
[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_12]: making Minnesota a trans refugee state,
[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_12]: no age limits for minors
[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_12]: who could receive gender affirming care,
[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_12]: so-called gender affirming care.
[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_12]: Created a snitch line for COVID mandate violators.
[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_12]: I could go on and on and on.
[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_12]: And Kamala Harris is right there with him
[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_12]: on all of that stuff.
[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_12]: So this is who they really are.
[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, you know, but does it matter?
[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, is it better for us that that happens
[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_12]: and then they come after us
[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_12]: because she's already said
[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_12]: she's gonna use the government
[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_12]: to come after hate speech and haters and all of that.
[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_12]: And we know who she's talking about.
[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_12]: But, you know, I could be sold on that.
[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, I'm not saying it's not.
[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_12]: Maybe it is.
[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm an agnostic on that question
[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_12]: because I just don't know.
[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_12]: I do know that I wanna deny them the satisfaction
[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_12]: and I like Trump as an agent of chaos.
[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm very much in the minority
[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_12]: where most Americans don't, but I do.
[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_12]: And I think that's because I want the country
[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_12]: to break apart.
[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_12]: I want us to be, I want there to be a secession.
[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_12]: And I think Trump helps us in that way.
[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_12]: But, you know, again,
[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_12]: that's not the majority of Americans.
[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_12]: Of course, the majority of Americans
[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_12]: aren't very smart either.
[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_12]: Mark, the rest of the show is yours.
[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_13]: Well, you've covered so much ground here.
[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, the real question is what's really at stake here
[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_13]: and what really is at stake is our vision of the future.
[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_13]: What's the vision of future
[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_13]: that both candidates offer
[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_13]: and what even people who call themselves conservative offer?
[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_13]: The conservative message is really a pretty anemic one.
[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_13]: It wants to go back to what they call
[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_13]: restoring our freedoms.
[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_13]: Well, exactly what does that mean?
[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_13]: Very few people who call themselves conservative
[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_13]: really wanna go back to 1930 or 1950 even.
[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_13]: They all claim that they wanna go back,
[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_13]: but exactly to what?
[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_13]: Because when it comes down to actual policies,
[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_13]: they're not in favor of going back
[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_13]: to the America of those years.
[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_13]: What they wanna go back to is basically a white America.
[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_13]: In 1950, America was something like 85% a white country.
[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_13]: Today, it is either majority
[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_13]: or very close to being majority non-white country.
[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_13]: Would people rather have a conservative government
[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_13]: in a country like Honduras or South Africa
[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_13]: or a liberal society in a country like Denmark or Norway?
[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_13]: Well, the answer is pretty obvious.
[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_13]: Conservatism, it fails time after time.
[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_13]: They don't win because the priorities are all wrong.
[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_13]: The priorities of limited government or individual freedom
[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_13]: are not the most important things in any society.
[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_13]: In many ways, Americans have more freedom as individuals
[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_13]: than they ever used to have.
[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_13]: Men can marry men.
[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_13]: They didn't used to be able to.
[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_13]: There's lots of individual freedoms we have in a sense
[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_13]: that we didn't used to have.
[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_13]: America used to have a motion picture industry
[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_13]: that was essentially censored until the 1960s.
[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_13]: Is that better or worse?
[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_13]: It's much more open ended now than it was then,
[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_13]: but see those aren't the most important thing.
[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_13]: People don't die for individual freedom.
[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_13]: They die for their people, for their heritage
[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_13]: and for the future of their children,
[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_13]: not anybody's children, not everyone.
[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_13]: They die for, they sacrifice for something more
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_13]: important than that.
[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_13]: Yes, that's right.
[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_13]: The answer of Republicans or even most conservatives
[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_13]: is a very evasive or flabby one
[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_13]: when confronted with these ultimate questions.
[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_13]: Does it matter if America, who lives in America?
[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_13]: They have this idea.
[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_13]: Many people seem to have this idea
[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_13]: that there's something magical about America
[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_13]: just because it's got a constitution or whatever reason.
[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_13]: No, it's made by the people who are here.
[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_13]: It was settled and built by Europeans
[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_13]: by people who wanted it to be a European
[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_13]: or a white country.
[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_13]: If it would have been settled by Chinese,
[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_13]: it'd be a very different country.
[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_13]: If the majority population had been black,
[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_13]: it'd be more like Haiti.
[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_13]: America has been quote unquote great
[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_13]: not because of this or that policy,
[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_13]: not because the government was large or small,
[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_13]: but because it was settled, built,
[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_13]: maintained by European Americans.
[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_13]: That's more critical than focusing on individual freedom
[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_13]: or some of these other issues
[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_13]: that are limited government.
[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_13]: Those are all secondary really to the health
[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_13]: and welfare and wellbeing of any people
[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_13]: or any nation.
[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_12]: Ladies and gentlemen, if you are enjoying
[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_12]: this conversation and undoubtedly you are,
[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_12]: how could you not?
[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_12]: It's Mark Weber.
[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_12]: Stay tuned for the next hour.
[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_12]: We are gonna continue it.
[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_12]: We're gonna continue it with Lou Moore
[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_12]: who was Ron Paul's presidential campaign manager.
[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_12]: He was also congressional chief of staff
[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_12]: and there's a lot more to him than that.
[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_12]: He's gonna be making his debut appearance
[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_12]: on the program tonight
[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_12]: and I just am very much excited
[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_12]: to be able to present him to you
[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_12]: and we're gonna talk about this.
[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_12]: We are gonna talk about some of the things
[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_12]: Mark just hit on,
[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_12]: but unlike hearing it from me,
[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm just a political commentator.
[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_12]: We're talking about hearing it from a gentleman
[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_12]: who is very much and has been a savvy
[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_12]: political operative in the GOP system
[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_12]: and that certainly credentials carry weight.
[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_12]: They do.
[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_12]: And Mark Weber's credentials carry weight
[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_12]: as a scholar and as a historian
[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_12]: and so we try to give you the best of the best.
[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_12]: Mark, yes, look, I mean,
[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_12]: you could make a case for or against Trump,
[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_12]: even some of our own people,
[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_12]: for or against Kamala,
[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_12]: not because they like her issues
[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_12]: or believe in her or have any faith in her,
[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_12]: but only because they think that it will bring about,
[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_12]: it will wake us up from this stupor
[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_12]: that we've been in
[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_12]: and there is some credence to that argument.
[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_12]: I am not saying I'm on Trump's bandwagon.
[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, I could vote for you
[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_12]: and Trump's gonna win,
[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_12]: and I would frankly rather,
[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_12]: but Trump would win Tennessee 70-30
[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_12]: no matter what I do.
[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_12]: So it doesn't really matter who I vote for.
[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_12]: Everybody's gotta make their own minds up about that.
[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_12]: But anyway, I've stated my opinion tonight.
[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_12]: Mark, a minute left.
[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_12]: It's yours, my friend.
[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_13]: It's just that I just wanna conclude by saying
[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_13]: it's changing anyway.
[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_13]: There's already, as you indicated
[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_13]: by the next guest is coming on
[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_13]: and many other people,
[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_13]: there's a greater and greater awareness
[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_13]: that whether the government is limited or not limited
[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_13]: or the old divisions and categories of right and left
[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_13]: or conservative and liberal
[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_13]: are really less, really trivial
[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_13]: compared to this fundamental question of who we are.
[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_13]: What kind of vision for our people do we have
[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_13]: or for the future of the country?
[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_13]: And that's gonna change anyway
[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_13]: if Kamala Harris is elected or if Trump is elected.
[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_13]: The division in America,
[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_13]: this division is fundamentally a big division
[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_13]: over what does it mean to even be an American?
[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_13]: What kind of country do we want?
[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_13]: And that will become greater in the months
[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_13]: and even years ahead.
[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_13]: If Trump is elected, it'll be a real ride
[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_13]: and it'll be a real coaster ride
[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_13]: if Kamala Harris is elected.
[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_13]: And these issues will become even more acute,
[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_13]: even more strong.
[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_13]: Our work right now isn't political.
[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_13]: Our main job right now is educational
[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_13]: and that is happening.
[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_13]: It's already going a long way
[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_13]: and it'll go even faster
[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_13]: and it can happen much more quickly,
[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_13]: it will happen much more quickly in the months ahead.
[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_13]: It's a little bit like in the months
[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_13]: and the years just before America declared independence
[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_13]: of the mood of the country changed,
[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_13]: of the 13 colonies changed radically.
[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_13]: In 1774, the vast majority of Americans
[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_13]: were still loyal subjects of the British Empire,
[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_13]: of the British crown.
[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_13]: And they hoped that they could somehow work out something
[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_13]: with Britain.
[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_13]: That changed in 1776.
[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_13]: In a space of just basically a few months or a year,
[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_13]: people said, no, we're not British,
[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_13]: we're Americans, we want our own country.
[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_13]: This question of identity is really crucial
[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_13]: and it can change it,
[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_13]: I think it will change in the months and years ahead.
[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_12]: If in some unintentional way,
[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_12]: Kamala Harris, her election is going to wake us up,
[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_12]: then I'm all for it.
[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm seeing through a glass darkly right here
[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_12]: at the end of the summer on that issue.
[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_12]: But whatever is best for our people is what I want
[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_12]: and that's all that I want.
[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_12]: And in the meantime, I encourage you to support the work
[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_12]: of the people upon whose shoulders we stand
[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_12]: like Mark Weber Institute for Historical Review,
[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_12]: IHR.org catches weekly roundup.
[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_12]: Each week, Mark has his own show with Frody Midyard
[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_12]: and it is exceptional.
[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_12]: Every week it's exceptional, IHR.org.
[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_12]: Mark, Godspeed brother, we'll talk again soon.
[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm sure before the election.
[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_13]: Thank you very much, James.
[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_13]: It's great being on with you again.
[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_12]: As always, stay tuned for Lou Moore,
[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_12]: former campaign manager for Ron Paul
[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_12]: in his presidential bid.
[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_12]: We all remember that insurgent bid.
[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_12]: We're gonna hear from him next.
[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_12]: Thank you.