[00:00:01] [SPEAKER_16]: You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network and this is the Political Cesspool.
[00:00:13] [SPEAKER_16]: The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist
[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_16]: conservative radio program.
[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_16]: And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James
[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_16]: Edwards.
[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Ladies and gentlemen, it's Saturday evening August the 24th.
[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm your host, James Edwards, along with Keith Alexander.
[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Great to be back in the studio with you tonight.
[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_04]: We were on the road last week in Alabama broadcasting from a conference that yours truly, along
[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_04]: with Sam Dixon, Jared Taylor, Brad Griffin and others spoke at was packed house, standing
[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_04]: room only.
[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Great time with the folks down there.
[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And if you were there, we enjoyed being there.
[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_04]: We look forward to seeing you again next year.
[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_04]: But we are back now.
[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_04]: The Democratic National Convention is in the rear view mirror and that's what we're
[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_04]: talking about in the second hour tonight.
[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Keith and I will be reassessing the presidential wake, excuse me, the presidential race in
[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_04]: the wake of this week's DNC as we now turn the corner and prepare for the home stretch.
[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot to unpack in the second hour.
[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_04]: So be sure to stay tuned for that and stay tuned for the third hour as well.
[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Why don't you?
[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to be having the eighth installment of a 12 part series TPC at 20, a retrospective
[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_04]: where, of course, once a per month during this our 20th anniversary year, we are revisiting
[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_04]: some classic interviews, very memorable interviews if for no other reason than their novelty.
[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And we are splicing some clips and offering you fresh reactions and commentary as we
[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_04]: revisit some of these interviews that were done years and years and years ago.
[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_04]: We did so far we have revisited the interview we did with Drew Lackey, the
[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_04]: who arrested Rosa Parks.
[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_04]: We did that in January and February.
[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Anthony Kumia, when he first started Breaking Bad.
[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Anthony is going to be speaking at the Amred Conference in November but right when
[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_04]: he was first coming out we got him on right after his serious ex-M run ended and
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_04]: he was becoming who he is at that time and had a good talk with him.
[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Zeljko Glasnovic, former general in the Croatian War for Independence, also a member
[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_04]: of the Croatian Parliament in March, revisited the interview with sitting US Congressman
[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Walter Jones at the time of its airing in April and May, action movie star Sonny Landon
[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_04]: in June Donald Trump Jr. last month, Hutton Gibson, Mel's Dead, what a fun interview
[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_04]: that was and tonight we got a special one we are going to revisit in the third hour.
[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_04]: That's all coming up, that's all coming up.
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_04]: We are going to have fun tonight as only we can during these trying times but first
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_04]: and right now we are going to go live to David Zutty, the Executive Director of the
[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Homeland Institute.
[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_04]: He is kicking this show off tonight to discuss the most recent polling results on canceling
[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_04]: cancel culture.
[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Some good news I think David is going to give us.
[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_04]: David, how are you tonight and thanks for being with us.
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_17]: Hey it's great to be back.
[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_17]: I'm doing excellent.
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I am glad to hear it.
[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_04]: We have, I don't know, a little bit of pep in our step tonight.
[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe we shouldn't but we do and we are feeling good about it and great to
[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_04]: have you back.
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_04]: This is your fourth appearance this year so I think by this point we probably don't need
[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_04]: to ask but for the benefit of those still getting to know the work of the Homeland
[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Institute I think right now at the cusp of its one year anniversary, a one year old
[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_04]: organization doing very unique work.
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Give us a 30 second reminder about the work of the Homeland Institute particularly
[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_04]: as it applies to the polling that you are doing there.
[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_17]: Yes, so we are a non-profit 501C3 and our goal is to explore the negative effects
[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_17]: of diversity and multiculturalism and globalism and most importantly how to propose
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_17]: humane and workable solutions.
[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_17]: And polling has become our bread and butter because that was a huge gap that
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_17]: needed to be filled.
[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_17]: We had to rely upon other people's polls and their information and if they
[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_17]: found interesting or useful information, don't think they would probably share it
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_17]: with us but now we can ask the questions we want when we want to and then share
[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_17]: it.
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_17]: And they'll see the Lincoln Project, they would never do this or ask the type of
[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_17]: questions I ask.
[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_17]: This is a huge benefit and also it's getting the movement I hope legitimacy
[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_17]: because it's an alternate institution but it's doing mainstream things.
[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And of course you're taking this data that you're compiling and trying to
[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_04]: find applicable ways that we can reach the normies out in Main Street USA
[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_04]: and in America, the people that we need to come over into our fold.
[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_04]: You're finding ways that we can reach them through this polling.
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_04]: It's an interesting thing.
[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_17]: Absolutely because we're trying to find out what the public mind actually is
[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_17]: and just move beyond anecdotal evidence or gut feeling or people
[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_17]: projecting their hopes and dreams and fears upon the people and actually
[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_17]: find out what they really do think.
[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_17]: And most importantly how to change your consciousness.
[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_17]: For example, we can ask questions and some of the other polls we've
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_17]: asked, well how does this change your mind?
[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_17]: What's your opinion on the statement?
[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_17]: And therefore we can find out which arguments work the best in changing
[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_17]: public consciousness.
[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_17]: And also it's a very nice way to pressure policymakers because now we have
[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_17]: hard data to back up our threats and our claims.
[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_15]: Well I've always had the question David is it a chicken and egg situation?
[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_15]: Do we have polls creating opinions or do the people have the opinions and they
[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_15]: create the poll result?
[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_15]: I suspect that it may be the former somewhat.
[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_15]: So it's good to have a polling branch to our movement now so that we can
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_15]: at least have some input in whatever the true dynamic of polling is,
[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_15]: whether it follows opinions or creates opinions.
[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_17]: That's absolutely correct.
[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_17]: I frankly don't trust the establishment pollsters.
[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_17]: They were blindsided in 2016 with Trump's victory.
[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_17]: So something went wrong there.
[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_17]: And two, one of the things that we I do at Homeland is that I've released as
[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_17]: much of the raw data as possible.
[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_17]: The raw results, including the order of the questions asked.
[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_17]: For example, I did a poll on the green card proposal that Trump did about
[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_17]: giving green cards out to college graduates like candy on Halloween, which
[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_17]: would be a disaster.
[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_17]: And over the course of the poll, I found that their opinion of that
[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_17]: drop by about 10 percent across all party lines.
[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_17]: But it's also about it.
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_17]: In fact, even brag about I expose these people to a battery of statements,
[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_17]: some of which were actually in favor of Trump's proposal proposal,
[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_17]: most of which were negative and that changed it.
[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_17]: So now we know why that came about.
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_17]: But I still have the data from before they got to those statements.
[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_17]: This is a lot more in depth, a lot more honest, a lot more interesting
[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_17]: than these mainstream polls, which frankly, they're overrated.
[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_17]: I think they're kind of they're just running off the fumes and
[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_17]: respectability and brand naming.
[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_17]: They're not really interesting or in depth.
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_15]: David, let me ask you this.
[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_15]: Trump's opinions are kind of like the autumn leaves.
[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_15]: They change over time.
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_15]: I have not heard much talk this go round about building a wall, but
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_15]: somehow that's going to so go ahead.
[00:07:41] Disappeared.
[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_17]: We're supposed to forget that that campaign promise was ever an issue or
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_17]: ever a thing, despite how we could easily find it using people sending
[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_17]: money back to their home countries.
[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_17]: Just simply by taxing that we don't even need to make maximum pay for it.
[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_17]: We simply have to tax people sending money back to foreign countries.
[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_17]: But yes, he is.
[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_17]: I actually had pointed an article I wrote about Trump and his
[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_17]: decision making process.
[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_17]: It's I think he is translating his business experience to politics where
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_17]: for whatever reason, he treats his friends and allies and supporters
[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_17]: poorly like their employees who can.
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_15]: He follows a long line of Republicans that have done that before.
[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_15]: But let me ask you this.
[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_15]: What do you think?
[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_15]: Uh, you know, what is driving these changes in his opinions?
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_15]: Are they, for example, his Jewish donors or are they, uh,
[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_15]: like you said, organic?
[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_15]: Uh, I have like, like, uh, women say I have the right to change my
[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_15]: mind and whatnot.
[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_15]: What is going on?
[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_15]: How is he, why is he changing these things?
[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_15]: And he apparently expects his support not to be affected in
[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_15]: the least by this.
[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_15]: And is, is that a miss assumption on his part?
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_17]: I think there's a number of factors.
[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_17]: The one of ones going to the same before is that he treats
[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_17]: his enemies like rival businessmen who he has to make a deal with.
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_17]: So he treats them better, but he has absolutely the Jewish donors.
[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_17]: The money talks.
[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_17]: He speaks of Mary and Maddelson and all of a sudden he's pro-business.
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_17]: He changes on a whim.
[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_17]: And it's also there's something more deeper in his psychology about this
[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_17]: for he was always new money.
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_17]: I think he has a chip on his shoulder where he was never really
[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_17]: accepting the, in the artsy fartsy urban liberal establishment of New
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_17]: York who would want to anyway, anyways, there's, there's ridiculous
[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_17]: people and putting on their air.
[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_15]: Heaven forbid.
[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_17]: I know, but he's always been trying.
[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_17]: He might pretend to be a populist, but I think a part of him wants to
[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_17]: desperately be part of the establishment for social acceptance.
[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_17]: I want to be part of the establishment to make policy,
[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_17]: savor people go to Mars, stuff like that.
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_17]: He wants a little pat on his shoulder and have a little fun finally
[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_17]: be accepted by people.
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_17]: The arm of God is here about who cares about these, these dumb people.
[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_17]: But this is all important to I don't understand it, but that's his
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_17]: psychology, I think in that component Jewish donors and the very
[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_15]: countless perspective that he's got a yarmulke in his pocket, ready
[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_15]: to flip out and put on his head at any time.
[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_17]: Well, they all do.
[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_17]: He's aspirational like the way he's aspirational, like Jewish
[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_17]: in my opinion, he really is.
[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he said that even well now who, who wasn't that said that?
[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Somebody actually knew that exact, exact term, but at any event,
[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_04]: that was me.
[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_04]: What is.
[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that's right.
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, but the point is though making things socially acceptable,
[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_04]: becoming socially acceptable.
[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_04]: We want our ideas to become socially acceptable and you can't wish
[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_04]: that into existence by having hard data and evidence that you can present
[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_04]: to people that you can present to decision makers and even politicians.
[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Listen, you're going to have to have rogue members of the elite come over
[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_04]: to our way and you can't break them apart.
[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_04]: It can't happen.
[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll be right back.
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[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_13]: This isn't a request.
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[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_03]: It's swung on strike was down here.
[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm winning the seventh game on a strike out.
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[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_02]: So I came on with my fastball.
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[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Is this the greatest moment of your life?
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely not.
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Jim, the best moments for me are breakfast with the kids, long walks
[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: with my wife just holding her hand, you know, marriage.
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[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_04]: We started to chase a rabbit there with Trump just a moment ago.
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I think the point is this, though, and why I'm so high on the work
[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_04]: of the Homeland Institute.
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_04]: By the way, if you want to refamiliarize yourself with some
[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_04]: of the polling that they have been doing over the course of
[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_04]: the last year, it's only a year old.
[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_04]: This organization is freshly minted.
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I go to the Homeland Institute, excuse me, homelandinstitute.org.
[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_04]: This is for the Homeland Institute.
[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_04]: The URL is simply homelandinstitute.org.
[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that this work is listen, you can go and tell
[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_04]: anecdotal stories and say, hey, I heard people are thinking like this
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_04]: and you need to get in and be a part of a rising tide by supporting this issue.
[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_04]: But when you have actual hard polling data, you can get somewhere with it.
[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And by just being normal and being professional, listen,
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I rattle off a bunch of folks we've worked with over the years.
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_04]: In some cases, they become very good friends.
[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And sometimes it's just an interview.
[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But I had a member of Congress this last week.
[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to say who, but he knows my penchant for oldies music.
[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And he had a ticket to go see Tony Orlando that his wife couldn't go.
[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And he asked me to come.
[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm just saying sometimes people will work with you behind the scenes
[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_04]: if you put your best foot forward.
[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what's going on here with the Homeland Institute.
[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_04]: So that being said, back to David Zutty, the executive director.
[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: We spent the first segment
[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_04]: refamiliarizing you a little bit with the work of the organization
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_04]: and its importance and of course, it's novelty in a good way
[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_04]: and doing something groundbreaking for our side,
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_04]: coming up with polls that it can package and present to folks
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_04]: and how we can better present our message to the people
[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_04]: and how we can take the findings that they are gathering
[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_04]: and take them to decision makers.
[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Now, David, all that being said, the most recent poll, August twenty twenty four,
[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_04]: you did a poll on the public's temperature on canceling cancel culture.
[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think you've got some good news for us.
[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_17]: So take it away. Yes, I do.
[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_17]: So last year, this was the this is a repeat of the first poll
[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_17]: that we did last year.
[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_17]: However, we decided to expand it and ask several new questions.
[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_17]: The new questions were very interesting.
[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_17]: So on a podcast on countercurrents, we had Jason Lee Van Dykhan.
[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_17]: He's a great attorney.
[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_17]: He fights for free speech.
[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_17]: And he had a great idea about a law
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_17]: making it illegal to fire an employee for exercising
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_17]: a constitutional protective right while off duty.
[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_17]: And so I decided to propose this law to the respondents and see what they think.
[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_17]: And the reason I did that, this happened shortly after the.
[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_17]: So we were going to we were going to rerun this poll anyways,
[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_17]: but it happened right after the Trump assassination.
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_17]: And there was an incipient right wing cancel culture where Libsutik talk.
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_17]: They docked a Home Depot lady who had wished that Donald Trump had not survived.
[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_17]: Now, Libsutik talk is Jewish.
[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_17]: So take that with a grain of salt.
[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_17]: I'm not sure it's a complicated situation there,
[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_17]: but regardless, that right wing cancel culture became a hot topic.
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_17]: So. And the law people were saying some will have some people
[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_17]: are saying this is being used to other people saying, hey,
[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_17]: I for an eye, this will be treated as another choice.
[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_17]: I'm definitely more part of the vengeance crowd on this.
[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_17]: I don't believe we should behave honorably towards people who have no honor.
[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_17]: However, a big part question of this, unless creating
[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_17]: right wing cancel culture is for what purpose or doing this,
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_17]: this has been a frustration for spite.
[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_17]: That's not necessarily a bad thing, but what's our productive angle?
[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_17]: What's our concrete demand here?
[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_17]: Are we just kind of.
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_17]: Cancelling them to destroy them, to be mean and nasty now,
[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_17]: they might deserve it, but what's our concrete goal here?
[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_17]: I think a concrete goal should be a ceasefire.
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_17]: I'll explain why a little bit later, but I do believe
[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_17]: there should be a ceasefire where we simply agree both on a cultural level
[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_17]: and legal level that you don't fire people for their opinions anymore.
[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_17]: You cannot fire them for having a for exercising their constitutional rights
[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_17]: while off duty.
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_17]: And this is big because the Constitution only really protects you from,
[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_17]: first of all, federal journey, and then as extended
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_17]: towards the states via the 14th Amendment.
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_17]: So read this government abuse of your rights.
[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_17]: The free market is free to do whatever you want, and that's a huge problem.
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_17]: One of Oswald Spengler's critiques is that there is no Constitution
[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_17]: which knows as money as a political force.
[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_17]: Therefore, they're pure theory one and all.
[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_17]: This is the problem.
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_17]: The government is if you look at business versus government,
[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_17]: we're not in 1789 anymore when the original Constitution was enacted.
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_17]: Business is it seems just as powerful as the government, probably more powerful.
[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_17]: In fact, there is a question whether Jewish.
[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_17]: This is all, of course, Jewish power.
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_17]: So it's a Jewish government, Jewish business.
[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_17]: But of the two, there's at least it seems to be relative parity here.
[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_17]: So business employers, those are the ones you have to worry about,
[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_17]: not the government. The government.
[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_17]: I don't know. Well, today the one that founders of the telegram
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_17]: was arrested in France.
[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_17]: So in some countries will definitely arrest you.
[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_17]: They arrested Mackey for making names about the 2016 election.
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_17]: But generally speaking, the government isn't the threat here.
[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_17]: It's usually private business.
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_17]: So we really have to push back on that because that's a threat to our rights,
[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_17]: especially doxing and that the fear of doxing has chilled public participation,
[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_17]: especially the employment aspect, the social aspect.
[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_17]: I think people just need to get over.
[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_17]: You just need to be tough. Who cares?
[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_17]: But the economic thing is what they worry about because it's not just them.
[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_17]: It's their families.
[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_17]: This question about their future career.
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_17]: And so this is great because our finding found
[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_17]: that there is massive widespread support for this law
[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_17]: across party lines for employers cannot fire employees
[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_17]: for exercising constitutional rights or off duty.
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_17]: This, of course, would include stuff like jury duty, like
[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_17]: like on a jury voting to exonerate Derek Chauvin.
[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_17]: That's a little tangent here, but it's very high.
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_17]: So 39.6 percent that strongly support
[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_17]: 25.1 percent slightly support.
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_17]: So that is huge.
[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_17]: That is a total of, I'm doing my math right, two thirds, 65 percent,
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_17]: give or take, would support this law.
[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_17]: Only the vast majority of the 8.6 percent who opposed the 9.7 percent
[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_17]: who opposed. And if you look at the numbers, it's very consistent
[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_17]: across party lines.
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_17]: Thirty five point five percent Democrats strongly support.
[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_17]: Thirty nine percent Republicans strongly support.
[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_17]: So this isn't just bipartisan, it's nonpartisan.
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_17]: So there's no reason why we couldn't do this.
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_17]: If you like, for everybody, I think everybody is kind of getting tired
[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_17]: of cancel culture, maybe even people on the left, where they're worried
[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_17]: that the boot might be on the other foot soon and they might be coming
[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_17]: to regret that.
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_17]: So this is a great concrete goal.
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_17]: We want this law. We want it passed.
[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_17]: And after that point, people do need to stand on the right.
[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_17]: Just this won't just magically solve it.
[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_17]: You have to stand by the law.
[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_17]: For example, California is very
[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_17]: would seem to have very robust protections of employee free speech.
[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_17]: This is from a California labor code section one thousand one hundred
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_17]: one, if I recall. But you have to use a lot.
[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_17]: But I think creating a new law where it's black letter law
[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_17]: and frame it in this language, this very defensible language,
[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_17]: constitutionally protected right will off duty.
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_17]: Everybody could get around that.
[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_17]: And this would be in accordance with previously established case law.
[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_17]: For example, there is another case where they talked about how
[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_17]: Dominion over property doesn't mean dominion over people.
[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_17]: So this would be great. This is our goal.
[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_17]: This is our demand.
[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_17]: When we start doxxing leftists is you have to come to the table
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_17]: and give us this.
[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_17]: We're going to make a deal, as Trump would say.
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_17]: But yet give something return, which means you have to protect.
[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_17]: You have to respect our rights if we're to respect your rights.
[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_17]: And two, we've learned to live the cancel culture.
[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_17]: Now, the left has more support, but they're also more fragile.
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_17]: Emotionally, we're more fragile being more on the fringe,
[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_17]: but they're more fragile emotionally.
[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_17]: They don't take pressure well.
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_17]: They'll buckle. So this is I think we have.
[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_17]: Well, we need to force a ceasefire.
[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_15]: David, this is Keith. Let me say this.
[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_15]: Whenever I think about mutuality with the left,
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_15]: I think of Vilfredo Pareto, the Italian socialist from the 19th century
[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_15]: who said that when I am weak, I ask you for justice and equality,
[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_15]: because those are your principles.
[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_15]: When I am in power, I deny that those same principles to you
[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_15]: because that is my policy.
[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_15]: I really don't know that they're capable of, you know,
[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_15]: varying from that, they just have a will to power, as Nietzsche said.
[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_15]: And that's, you know, that's going to manifest itself.
[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_15]: They'll tell you anything.
[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_15]: But do you feel that
[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_15]: there's any type of accommodation
[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_15]: you can reach with the left that will make you make them
[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_15]: abide by their agreements?
[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_17]: Yes, this will the law can have teeth.
[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_17]: If employer violates a law.
[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_17]: Have lots of monetary damages.
[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_17]: This this will change the balance of terror into one of the things
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_17]: that we found later on was whether they balance the terror between.
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_17]: So say someone is doxed.
[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_17]: The business feels that they need to fire them
[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_17]: or else there will be terrible repercussions.
[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_17]: Well, here's the thing.
[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_17]: They were people were not very keen, including leftists
[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_17]: about going along with that.
[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_17]: So I asked if a business fires an employee due to pressure from the left,
[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_17]: would you more likely to support them, less likely to support them
[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_17]: or no real fact either way or not sure?
[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_17]: The same thing for pressure from the right.
[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_17]: And lo and behold, 49.5 percent
[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_17]: said less likely to support them if the fire was due to pressure from the left.
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_17]: That was from all respondents.
[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_17]: And these are just, you know, these are white registered voters I polled.
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_17]: And then for pressure from the right, it was 45.5 percent.
[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_17]: So we have a little bit of an advantage here.
[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_17]: And this is important because we're not getting this by going to their
[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_17]: morality or their honor or sympathy.
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_17]: It's brute force.
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_17]: Yes, we're asking for a law.
[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_17]: But we're going to start doxing your people and throwing your people
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_17]: and harassing them if you don't give us this.
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_17]: So we're not doing this from
[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_17]: that's very important because if we start doing what lives at Ticktock,
[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_17]: lives at Ticktock did where they got the Home Depot lady cashier fired.
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_17]: That's what we're aiming for. We don't need to have parity.
[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_17]: We just need to have substantial parity.
[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_17]: Because they are much weaker than we are.
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_04]: What Keith said about the will to power, we could learn from the left
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_04]: that our principle, our only principle should be
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_04]: there is one question that should decide our position on any issue.
[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And I've said this many times over the years.
[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_04]: The question is, is it good for our people?
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_04]: That is our bar that from the Jews.
[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's fine.
[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, we can learn a lot from them, you know, as far as
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_04]: ethno politics is concerned and racial identity and all of that.
[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to tell you why this interview and this work is so important.
[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_04]: If I haven't touched on it yet, I'm going to drive a fine
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I nail right to the heart of it when we come back.
[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_04]: David Zutty, the executive director of the Homeland Institute.
[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Our guest for talking about the recent poll canceling cancel culture
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_04]: and why it's important. Stay tuned.
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[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Experts now say that Iranian hackers may have infiltrated
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[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Correspondent Jackie Quinn has an update on the story.
[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Metta says it received reports of suspicious messages in WhatsApp
[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_00]: accounts held by staffers of President Biden and former President Donald Trump.
[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It says the hackers try to access accounts in the US,
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_00]: the United Kingdom and the Middle East, as well as political and diplomatic officials.
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_00]: U.S. intelligence officials say Iran is increasingly using cyber attacks
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[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: in democracy and to oppose candidates.
[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It believes will increase tensions between Tehran and Washington.
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Jackie Quinn.
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[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Justice Department launching a probe into a privately operated prison in Tennessee.
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[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Ladies and gentlemen, back now with David Zutty
[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_04]: of the Homeland Institute.
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't go anywhere in the second hour.
[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_04]: We are going to turn our attention exclusively
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_04]: to this week's Democratic National Convention in Chicago.
[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to break that down, turn over every rock.
[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to talk about the significance of
[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_04]: R.F.K. Junior dropping out of the race and endorsing Trump.
[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_04]: All of that's coming up in the second hour.
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[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_04]: 12 part series, part eight of 12 tonight
[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_04]: for the eighth month of the year with our TPC at 20, a retrospective.
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of good stuff still coming up, but a lot of good stuff
[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_04]: still coming up this hour as we continue with our friend David Zutty.
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_04]: He's an attorney in California.
[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_04]: He has a B.A.
[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_04]: in political science from the University of California, San Diego,
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_04]: and a J.D. from Chapman University's Dale E.
[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Fowler School of Law. Before studying law, David served six years
[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_04]: in the U.S. Air Force as an airborne linguist,
[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_04]: linguist and achieved the rank of staff sergeant.
[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_04]: He has been involved in our movement for a long time,
[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_04]: was an activist and a chapter leader with the erstwhile identity Europa.
[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_04]: So all great credentials there from David Zutty.
[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And I am telling you, folks, you say, hey,
[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_04]: you take stuff like this to policymakers and decision makers
[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_04]: and you're just going to get shown the door.
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_04]: That is not true.
[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_04]: It is true, overwhelmingly so, but it is not true in all cases.
[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I think TPC over the 20 years we've been on the air
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_04]: have proven that you can have breakthroughs with people who are entertainers,
[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_04]: people who are celebrities, people who have
[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_04]: bigger microphones than we do, people who are former
[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_04]: and even current elected officials, especially elected officials,
[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_04]: sitting elected officials in Europe.
[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_04]: We have great ties with them.
[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Some here in the United States as well, a lot of former elected officials.
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And these people all still have ties.
[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_04]: So, yes, if you can't present the message well, if you could package it
[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_04]: and you come across as normal and listen, David is a guy who's a sharp looking guy.
[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_04]: You take David into the halls of Congress with some of these findings.
[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think you're never going to get the majority, but you don't need it.
[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_04]: You've never needed the majority to start turning the rudder.
[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_04]: You need a tireless and unapologetic minority.
[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think you can get that.
[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, even Pat Buchanan, he said, well, what did Pat have to lose
[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_04]: when he defended his appearances on these shows?
[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think I don't know if it was after his third or fourth appearance.
[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_04]: They went after him.
[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_04]: He still had a million dollar, you know, a seven figure deal with MSNBC
[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_04]: that was on the line and they eventually got it.
[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But he went on National Public Radio and defended his appearances on this program.
[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Same for Hutton Gibson, who had his son to think about.
[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But he said, hey, this is my home away from home talking about the show.
[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_04]: You can find people and you can break through.
[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Now, let me cut through to the Cliffs notes of this poll we're talking
[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_04]: about with David Zutty canceling cancel culture.
[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Not that anyone's ever read Cliffs notes, and I'll never admit
[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_04]: to reading the Cliffs notes to old man in the sea in eighth grade.
[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Mrs. Kraft, I'll never admit to that.
[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But here's some takeaways.
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's go to the conclusion of this, because David, I think this is where
[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_04]: it really gets interesting and where you could take numbers like this
[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_04]: and and start to siphon off a little bit of that monolith in Congress.
[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Here you go.
[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Almost two thirds of respondents at sixty four point seven percent
[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_04]: would support a law making it illegal for an employer to fire an employee
[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_04]: for exercising a constitutionally protected right while off duty.
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Another takeaway, another point in this conclusion,
[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_04]: almost half of the white voters, forty nine point five percent,
[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_04]: are less likely to support a business if it fires an employee
[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_04]: due to pressure from the left among Republican respondents.
[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_04]: A charge of woke was almost twice as damaging as a charge of racism
[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_04]: regarding whether they should support a politician.
[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_04]: That is huge.
[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_04]: If you get called a racist, it might actually help your chances
[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_04]: of winning an election now, according to the Republican respondents
[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_04]: that you pull a charge of woke was twice as damaging.
[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And then finally, last year's poll.
[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_04]: This is a follow up to a poll you did last year, both strongly suggest
[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_04]: that Republicans pandering to minorities will backfire
[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_04]: as it risks risks voters perceiving them as woke.
[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Such voters may choose to punish the GOP by staying home
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_04]: like they did in twenty twenty two and in contrast to the mass mobilization
[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_04]: in twenty sixteen. David, that's a lot to unpack.
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_04]: It's all there at Homeland Institute dot org.
[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I'm talking too much this segment, but I wanted to unpack
[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_04]: all of that because that's stuff that will get a politician's ear.
[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think, David? Absolutely.
[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_17]: And I really want these polls and these articles to wind up on a on a congressman's desk.
[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_17]: I don't need to.
[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_17]: I'm not I'm not interested in chasing cloud.
[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_17]: I'm interested in making policy.
[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_17]: So someone else were to pass this off to a congressman and say, well,
[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_17]: I don't know if I fully agree with these people and they're a little radical,
[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_17]: but they have hard data.
[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_17]: And of course, you know, perform really disadomi even though they think it's awesome
[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_17]: and just flip it to a congressman that that would be what I really want.
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_17]: I'm not interested in being an E celeb or e-drama.
[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_17]: I'm interested in making policy.
[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_17]: So, yes, if someone needs to disavow me, do it.
[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_17]: And then just slip it, slip this to a congressman.
[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_17]: And I think we're going to have a lot of rogue elites
[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_17]: more and more who are going to escape the establishment plantation.
[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_17]: Trump could have been one, but then he went back to just being part
[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_17]: of the establishment. But Elon Musk is very, very promising.
[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_17]: I'm actually reading a book about him right now, which I'll write an article on
[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_17]: for countercurrents. It's kind of a big book, so this will take a while.
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_17]: But this one I've seen in that book and I've seen about him recently.
[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_17]: I think he could get pretty wild.
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_17]: So I'm not sure if you'll ever fully read with us,
[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_17]: but I think he could become very friendly or adjacent.
[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_17]: He did comment just a few minutes ago about the issue of the
[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_17]: one of the founders of Telegram being Jonah Franz on silly charges,
[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_17]: which basically come down to that you didn't censor and so we're not.
[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_17]: We're mad at you.
[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_17]: That's going to radicalize a lot of people.
[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_17]: They see the the the rainbow curtain is falling.
[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_17]: It's like the Iron Curtain, but fake and stupid.
[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_17]: It's flowing across the West.
[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_17]: They see where we're going.
[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_17]: It's pastel, pastel Soviet Union.
[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_17]: And so I think a lot of these rogue elites will become radicalized
[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_17]: want to work with us, then we can show them, hey,
[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_17]: we have an alternate institution doing mainstream things.
[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_17]: They can perform.
[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_17]: We can be respectable and we have data to back our positions up.
[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_17]: And this is very big, especially the whole
[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_17]: the importance about a charge of woke, be more dangerous than charge of racism.
[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_17]: The GOP convention this year was a disaster.
[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_17]: You had some.
[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_17]: Nasty woman with a face tattoo who I won't go into her
[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_17]: previous activities and all this multiculturalism.
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_17]: And this was off tone.
[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_17]: It wasn't 2016.
[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_17]: It was actually very woke because it panicked everyone except for white people.
[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_17]: That's what it is.
[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_17]: It's let's let's panic to every single victim group, every minority group,
[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_17]: but not the base, not the people who the so-called silent majority
[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_17]: of white people who make the country work or vote Republican.
[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_17]: And that's simply unacceptable.
[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_17]: We deserve our place at the table.
[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_17]: If we don't get it, we will flip the table over.
[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_15]: Well, there are so many people, though, David,
[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_15]: that think they're being high minded by saying that
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_15]: we don't want to persecute our enemies the way they persecuted us.
[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_15]: I think that the founding fathers would be absolutely dumbfounded
[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_15]: if they looked at today's America, because you can read them
[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_15]: provisions of the Constitution that obviously support our position.
[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_15]: And it just doesn't register.
[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_15]: I don't know if they're too dumb or just too doctrinaire
[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_15]: to agree to things like this.
[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_15]: And, you know, you live in California and we live in red state America.
[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_15]: What's it like living in California?
[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_15]: What is the zeitgeist of South Carolina, of South California now?
[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_17]: We cannot afford housing or Chipotle burritos.
[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_17]: That is the zeitgeist.
[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_17]: And one of our people are fleeing.
[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_17]: It's it's the Golden State.
[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_17]: Well, people are not going anymore.
[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_17]: Just like kind of brown.
[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_17]: Everyone wants out.
[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_17]: I had a lot of friends who moved out of state, actually,
[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_17]: and we're still good friends, but they left.
[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_17]: And it just isn't the same state I grew up in.
[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_17]: It's a whole different country, basically.
[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_17]: And it's horrible.
[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_17]: And I was radicalized by being living in ground zero of the Great Replacement.
[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_17]: California is 10 years ahead of the rest of the country, and that is terrifying.
[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_17]: I got to see where this is going.
[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_17]: This is why California has so many good
[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_17]: it's produced so many good people in the movement like Nathan Domingo,
[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_17]: my friend Ryan Sanchez, the Nationalist Network.
[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_17]: We had one of the most robust identity Europa chapters
[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_17]: because we saw the future and we were terrified by it.
[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_17]: We were trying to warn people like this is coming to you, too.
[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_15]: See, that's how the people like you are moving,
[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_15]: but they're being replaced by people from the third world.
[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_15]: They'll do anything for a burrito.
[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_15]: So, you know, they will.
[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_15]: California will continue to keep its 54 electoral votes.
[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_15]: It will continue to have far left policies as long as they give away
[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_15]: the free burritos.
[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_15]: I just, you know,
[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_15]: that is, you know, I think it's Bertold-Breckman said back in the late 40s,
[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_15]: if you don't like the election results, replace the electorate.
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_15]: And that's apparently what is happening in California today.
[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_15]: Am I right or wrong?
[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_17]: Absolutely. And we try to stop it with Prop 182, but struck down by a Jewish judge.
[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_17]: And that was really the death of the country and the death of California.
[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_17]: California used to be a red state, just like Texas is currently a red state.
[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_17]: But then not that long ago.
[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_15]: Furthermore, today, the interior, the non-coastal counties are,
[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_15]: at least the last electoral map I saw red counties.
[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_15]: It's just that they don't have the money or the influence
[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_15]: and the wealth that of the coastal counties have.
[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, you know, it's like that in Oregon.
[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_04]: All the all the counties in Oregon outside of the Columbia River Valley
[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_04]: is are red, but Portland and Salem and Eugene could sink the whole state.
[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it just takes a couple of cities to sink a state.
[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_04]: To your point, David, about the woke Republican National Convention,
[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I have a response to that as we talk one more segment with David Zutty
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[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_04]: One more segment with David Zutty, our featured guest of the evening.
[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Then we're going to get into the Democratic National Convention and everything about it,
[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_04]: everything about I mean, we've been talking about it since Biden dropped out of the race.
[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_04]: This bloodless coup, a woman who finished dead last in the primaries of 2020,
[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_04]: didn't receive a single vote for president ever.
[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And now she's the nominee.
[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to we'll revisit all of that, but we're really going to focus on what happened
[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_04]: over the course of the last week.
[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_04]: We've done a whole hour on Tim Walz in the last couple of weeks.
[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But we'll touch on him again as well.
[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And then that's coming up.
[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_04]: But listen, David, the thing is about Trump, this thing about the.
[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, lackluster Republican National Convention.
[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Will it be the Trump of 2016 or the Trump of 2020?
[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Here's what he has to do to win, even after all of this upheaval, even after.
[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_04]: The installation of Kamala and this media manufactured enthusiasm and the whole hysteria
[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_04]: surrounding her and the madness of these crowds.
[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Trump needs to do one thing to win this race.
[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_04]: If you want him to win, if anybody out there is voting for I voted for Trump the first two times.
[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I will vote for him again.
[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll talk about that next hour.
[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_04]: But if you want Trump to win, this is what he needs to do.
[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_04]: All it takes at any appearance between now and Election Day is to say this.
[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Say what he always says.
[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm for this is what I'm going to do for the Jews.
[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_04]: This is what I would do for the blacks.
[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, he's going to say that if he just works in.
[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And white Americans.
[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to fight for you, too.
[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_04]: We need a platinum.
[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_15]: We need a platinum plan for the working class or else.
[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_15]: We need that plus he needs to go back to the trying
[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_15]: to get to the truth of formula that got him elected in 2016, which is build the wall.
[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, all he has one sentence just mentioning white Americans, especially working class
[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Americans, the white Americans without a college degree.
[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_04]: He ups his percentage there just a little bit and it's all over.
[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_15]: Go where the ducks are.
[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_15]: That's what Pat Buchanan said.
[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_15]: And that's where the ducks are, the white working class.
[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_15]: Hopefully, you're a future.
[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_17]: Paul's like this will help.
[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_17]: Sorry.
[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I was just saying, hopefully, polls like this will influence that going forward.
[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Go ahead, David.
[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_04]: My apology.
[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_17]: Yeah, we're about 70% of the electorate and 70% of the buying power in America right
[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_17]: now.
[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_17]: So we are the biggest bony block and they absolutely should pander to us just like
[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_17]: the pan or to everybody else.
[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_17]: They blacks Jews doing their pan or the Jews.
[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_17]: It's not for the votes.
[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_17]: It's for the money because they're only about 2% of the population.
[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_17]: But we absolutely can't take it and tank it.
[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_17]: And that's why I support the great power.
[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_17]: We have to do for Trump's own good.
[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_17]: We have to apply pressure and essentially hold an intervention for him.
[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I see.
[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I know exactly what you're talking about with this.
[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_04]: That this the commentary out there with people coming out against Trump.
[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And so you think that's a tactical and a strategic move?
[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_17]: Yes, because he responds a lot of pressure for whatever reason.
[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_17]: He treats his enemies well.
[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_17]: Like, for example, he's now despite RFK running against him.
[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_17]: They're now friends.
[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_17]: They're all buddy buddy.
[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_17]: Kyle Brittenhouse said he was going to vote for Ron Paul.
[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_17]: But then there is some type of deal made and now he's back on the Trump
[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_17]: train. Everything is forgiven.
[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_17]: So whatever reason, Trump does respond to pressure and we have to pressure him.
[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_17]: And I think this is for his own good because if he has people like Suzy Wiles,
[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_17]: this is the quote that just amazes me.
[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_17]: She said something along the lines that for every Karen that we
[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_17]: will get a Jamal and an Enrique.
[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_17]: And this thinking for using never here, she is using that
[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_17]: has never happened against us.
[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_15]: Now, this one ever.
[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_15]: That's the whole problem with this thing seems to be that
[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_15]: we have to speak up.
[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_15]: We have to speak up like the blacks do, like the Hispanics do,
[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_15]: like the gays do and whatnot or else we never present any
[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_15]: pressure on him.
[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_15]: And if we don't, then we'll never get any consensus.
[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_15]: Well, of course, there is a difference.
[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_17]: I want to win.
[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_17]: Yes. It's like how you want someone who's addicted to drugs
[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_17]: to get off drugs and get clean.
[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_17]: You have to somebody discipline them.
[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_17]: You might have to make them homeless and kick them out.
[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_17]: You have to be tough.
[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_17]: Interventions are tough and aggressive.
[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_17]: Well, I want Trump to win.
[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_17]: Why have to be?
[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_17]: We might have to play hardball with him to for his own good.
[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly. Listen, you are onto something, my friend.
[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_04]: You're absolutely onto something.
[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course, there is a little bit difference with what Keith was saying.
[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course, all of the other racial advocacy groups are not only allowed
[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_04]: to exist, but they are encouraged to exist.
[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_15]: They don't really have to put pressure on him.
[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_15]: He stumbles all over himself trying to ingratiate himself to them.
[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_04]: We don't have the opportunity to exist.
[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'll tell you this.
[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_04]: When you have an organization like the Homeland Institute
[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_04]: that is that is doing things the right way, that is that is a start.
[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And I do think that people can be won over.
[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Now we've talked about this this hour.
[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_04]: So, yes, if Trump just gives one sentence between now and election day
[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_04]: that winks an eye and he did a lot of dog whistling in 2016,
[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_04]: like his son coming, you know, his son soliciting
[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_04]: or the Trump campaign soliciting an appearance for his son on this show.
[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And then they immediately denounced the appearance.
[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, the whole rest of the year,
[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_04]: the media was debating whether or not he came on.
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_15]: I dare say he got more votes out of his appearance on this show
[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_15]: than he did from attending the NAACP convention
[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_04]: or the National Association of Black Journalists.
[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, the whole thing, you can still go to Donald Trump's Wikipedia entry today
[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_04]: and it questions whether or not he really believes in the great replacement
[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_04]: or he just pretended to on this show for the political gain.
[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_04]: That is in his official Wikipedia.
[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_15]: Is that the same Wikipedia page that has the horns growing out of your head?
[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just saying so if he would go back.
[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, but Trump did a lot of that in 16,
[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_04]: acting like he didn't know who David Duke was and all of this stuff.
[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And he has become more establishment, as David is saying.
[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_04]: He is the Republican establishment now.
[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_04]: There's no doubt about that, but he's playing it a little bit too safe.
[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And he just wants trying his best.
[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_15]: He's got to be able to embrace the establishment without betraying his base.
[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_15]: That's the yes, we go off.
[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_15]: He's going to have to go ahead.
[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_17]: Yes, you go off script on immigration.
[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_17]: It literally saved his life.
[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_17]: If he does it again, he'll save his campaign and to the establishment.
[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_17]: They have to understand they have to to deal with us.
[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_17]: I think there is a rise of single issue voters on immigration.
[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_17]: And this is a question for the poll, which I'm currently conducting.
[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_17]: I ask, are you a I have a bunch of questions.
[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_17]: I'll give you a sneak peek at two one.
[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_17]: Are you a single issue voter on immigration?
[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_17]: Another question asked their opinion on the statement,
[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_17]: demographics is destiny.
[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_17]: And here's the thing.
[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_17]: They have to deal with single issue voters on pro-life,
[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_17]: on abortion, gun rights, gun grabbers, everything.
[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_17]: There's always two voters.
[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_17]: We are a new voting block, a single issue immigration voters.
[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_17]: They have to deal with us and calculate us and just like everybody else.
[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_17]: And we're totally legitimate and we cannot be disregarded or deprecated anymore.
[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_04]: David, let me ask you one last question upon.
[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, let me ask you one more question as we're running out of time
[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_04]: and as we run out of time this hour, I want to remind everyone to check out
[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Homeland Institute dot org.
[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Take a look at how these findings are packaged to, by the way,
[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_04]: it's not just the meat and potatoes numbers, although those statistics are there.
[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_04]: You get a breakdown. It's all well formatted.
[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_04]: It's ready to be emailed to your congressman.
[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_04]: So take a look.
[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And but David, you're not just pulling the countercurrents
[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_04]: mailing list on this.
[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_04]: You are. How are you coming into contact with your respondents?
[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_17]: Correct. So it's an online polling system that I use.
[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_17]: And this is the general population.
[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_17]: It's white registered voters.
[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_17]: I want to poll people of other races, too, but that's proven difficult
[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_17]: because you have to balance their different characteristics.
[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_17]: Now the white voter electorate down and they're the most important one
[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_17]: because they're 70 percent.
[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_17]: And we control for education level, age, party affiliation, ideology,
[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_17]: BLM support and make it look like the electorate, like like the actual electorate.
[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_17]: And therefore, we can extrapolate from that to electorates.
[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_17]: So I'll make sure we're very certain here that the homeland polls
[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_17]: in the internal countercurrent polls are two completely separate things.
[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_17]: This is a professionally done scientific poll of the general population
[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_17]: of people who resemble the white electorate
[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_17]: for these different characteristics, as opposed to the internal
[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_17]: countercurrent poll, which is very different people.
[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_04]: So you're pulling the general electorate.
[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_04]: You're not just pulling those amongst the faithful.
[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_04]: You are pulling everyone out there.
[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_17]: They have no idea who I am.
[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_17]: It's an anonymous poll and they don't know who I am.
[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_17]: And I actually write the questions to be as neutral as possible
[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_17]: and maybe even hint that maybe I'm a liberal.
[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_17]: I've used words before like undocumented immigrant
[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_17]: because that's what a mainstream polling firm would use.
[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_17]: So I ask alternate questions for an alternate purpose
[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_17]: by doing it in a very mainstream fashion.
[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_17]: So these are people who are part of a I'm not going to say which one,
[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_17]: but the online polling saying that people can sign up for a new work on
[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_17]: and they're pulled by a bunch of people for research.
[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_17]: And I simply am a alternate institution,
[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_17]: but I act being scream and they don't know who it is.
[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_17]: And this creates a good result.
[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_17]: And folks, I've also have been advised by people,
[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_17]: certain insiders in the industry.
[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_04]: It's hard data, it's hard science, it's being done the right way.
[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_04]: You are not seeking confirmation bias.
[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_04]: You're not asking questions that will get answers we like,
[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_04]: because I look at some of these polls and I'm like, man,
[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_04]: this isn't as good as I wanted it to be.
[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And I look at some polls like this one that, you know,
[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_04]: found that amongst Republicans, a charge of woke is twice as damaging
[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_04]: as a charge of racism
[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_04]: regarding whether they would support a politician.
[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, wow, I'm glad to know that I'm not just saying
[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_04]: that this is something that something else driving it,
[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_15]: because there are an awful lot of executives getting fired for being too
[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_15]: woke. But then the more things change, the more they stay the same.
[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_15]: They get another woke guy in charge.
[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_04]: He's not polling fortune 500 companies.
[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_04]: He's polling the the the white electorate.
[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And so anyway, but this is it.
[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I will tell you this.
[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_04]: When we break through, when we break through,
[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_04]: there'll be programs like this in institutions like the Homeland Institute
[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_04]: that will be responsible for it.
[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course, all of the other folks we work with and promote
[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_04]: and support on this program.
[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_04]: There is a growing movement out there.
[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Homeland Institute dot org is an important part of it.
[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_04]: David, thank you so much for being on with us tonight.
[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_04]: It's always so good to talk to you.
[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And we will talk to you again soon, I am sure.
[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But until then, folks, stay tuned for the second hour.
[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_04]: All about what we saw, what we suffered through at Chicago this week.
[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And then in the third hour, we will revisit TPC at 20,
[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_04]: a retrospective part eight of our 12 part series.
[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, David. We'll talk to you again soon.
[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_15]: Have a good day.
[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_15]: Good day. Have a great polling season.
[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_15]: Thank you, everybody.