White Coat Waste, Stop Taxpayer Funded Animal Experiments |EP634
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White Coat Waste, Stop Taxpayer Funded Animal Experiments |EP634

THE BIG MIG SHOW

AUGUST 18, 2025 

EPISODE 634 - 11AM

 

Justin Goodman is the Senior Vice President of Advocacy and Public Policy at non-profit government watchdog White Coat Waste. For more than 20 years, Justin has led high-profile, winning grassroots and lobbying campaigns to expose and end wasteful and cruel taxpayer-funded experiments on dogs, cats, primates and other animals

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You guys know, as you've heard me many times, be very vocal.

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I've always been an animal advocate.

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You know, I grew up with lots of pets when I was a kid.

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And, you know, I was always rescuing animals.

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And my godfather in New York, he owned a pet store.

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So that's the environment I grew up in.

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And you know, you guys have seen me repost.

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You've seen me engage with Laura Loomer.

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She's a friend of mine and we've talked about how much we can't

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stand what's going on, You know, animal testing and funding.

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At this point, it's just draconian.

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It's unnecessary. I don't believe it's not.

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I don't know if it was ever necessary, but I always feel

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like it's one of those things that people did and, and just

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because you could do it doesn't mean you should do it.

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People like Anthony Fauci and others, what they've done to

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these animals and horrendous for anybody out there that's

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familiar with it, you've seen the pictures of the testing,

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you've heard the stories about the beagles vocal cords getting

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cut, you know, the sand flies literally chewing their face

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off. And there's lots of other

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horrendous, horrendous animal testing.

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I could go on and on. It doesn't take much a simple

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search on Google or any other search platform Brave, you would

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find it. And joining us today is a guy

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that's really been busting his ass.

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He's he's been really doing the work that's necessary when when

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you know, and I and I always think, you know, what really

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makes a person is what they do when nobody's watching.

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And Justin Goodman has been fighting for animal rights for a

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very long time. He's the founder and president

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of White Coast waste. You know, he's, he's been doing

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it for more than 20 years. He's LED a high profile winning

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grass roots and lobbying campaigns to expose and the

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wasteful and cruel taxpayer funded experiments on dogs,

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cats, primates and other animals.

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And his team at White Coast Waste was the very first to

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expose Dr. Fauci's funding for gain of function at the Wuhan

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lab. That of course, we all know now.

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Even even the agencies are admitting that it was a lab

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leak. Probably intentional.

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I don't think it was accidental. And, you know, and, and, and

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he's done an amazing job of shining light on Fauci's Beagle

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torture. I've said it very often, I think

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that Fauci should have the same testing done in him.

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I would stick his head in one of those boxes with the sand flies

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and allow them to go to town because I, I think there's one

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thing I've always thought, I've always thought the people that

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took advantage of animals were bullies.

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And, and, and they did it because they could do it, not

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because they should have done it.

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And the, the, the, the way these animals have been treated in

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these labs around the globe, it's just disgusting.

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So let's bring Justin in. I know this is a, it's really

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something near and dear to his heart.

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So let's get him in here. And there's no reason to leave

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him backstage. Welcome to the big, big show,

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Justin Goodman. How you doing, Sir?

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Hey guys, thanks for having me. Great to be here.

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Man, we appreciate you coming on.

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You know, there's there's you guys have been in the news quite

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a bit as of late and I think no, no small help.

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Laura Luma did a great job of shining some light on it and

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she's got really direct access. And I think there's there's lots

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of other people's that are animal advocates that people

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don't know. Like Rodger Stone, he's a big

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animal advocate. He's got two small dogs and he's

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a big animal guy. So I know that he's also done

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what he could behind the scenes to kind of influence that.

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But I. Don't know if.

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You know, let me ask you this, Justin.

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First of all, let's start off. I don't want to jump in too

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fast. Let's start of how did you get

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started? How did you decide to go down

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this vertical? You know, were you always an

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animal guy? Was your childhood?

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Were you raised on a farm? You know what kind of triggered

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all this? I'm from New York and, you know,

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like a lot of other people, I grew up with an Infinity for

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animals. I actually have a very vivid

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memory of being at the Queen Zoo when I was a kid and meeting

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this little doe and crying my eyes out when my family was

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like, we got to go and I was like, had this connection with

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this little deer. But my whole life I had a

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connection to animals. We had a cat when I was a kid,

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other pets, and I was never really an activist or anything

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like that until I got to college.

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I was my wife and I got to the University of Connecticut and I

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learned there was a monkey lab on campus and no one had known

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about it. So I registered.

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I started this little student group and taught myself how to

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use the Freedom of Information Act, taught myself how to write

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a press release, started investigating federal spending

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databases to see how this lab was operating, who was paying

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for it. And it turned out that the US

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government was shipping millions of dollars to this laboratory to

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drill holes in monkey's head, destroy the part of their brain

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that controls eye movements with acid, and then implant coils in

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their eyes and lock them. And these are strange chairs and

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just make them watch TV screens and track targets on the screen

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for hours and hours at a time. And at the end of the project,

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they killed these monkeys. And this was, I didn't go to

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college right out of high school.

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I did a bunch of other stuff. But I this was the early 2000s.

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And I thought, this is the 21st century.

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I can't believe this is still going on and that taxpayers are

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being forced to pay for it. So we launched this campaign to

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expose and end it, expose all these violations of the law

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that, of course, these government inspectors and

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bureaucrats had ignored. And we shut this laboratory

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down. And to this day, there hasn't

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been. And I was just a student at this

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point. And to this day, there's never

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been another monkey laboratory at the University of

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Connecticut. So I was, I was in, I was in

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grad school and I was supposed to get a PhD.

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But I realized doing this that my heart was really an activism

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for animals and not academia. So I left and basically for the

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last 20 years, I've been working on campaigns to find exposed and

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defund taxpayer funded animal experiments.

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I mean, I think a lot of people, you know, maybe their exposure

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to animal testing issues is, you know, see stuff on social media

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about cosmetics testing cruelty free products.

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And that's great that people are doing that.

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But the truth is that the federal government, the US

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government, is a single largest funder of animal testing, not

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only in the country, but in the entire world. the US government

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currently wastes about $20 billion a year, billion with AB

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just on animal testing. Of course, you know, as you

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mentioned, Anthony Faucher is kind of publicly Public Enemy #1

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when it comes to animal testing. He ran a division at the NIH for

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40 years that funded more animal testing than any other division

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in the NIH. But he wasn't just a paper

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pusher. He wasn't just some bureaucrat.

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I mean, he certainly was that, but that wasn't it since the

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1980s. Fauci himself has been infecting

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chimpanzees trying to give them HIV and AIDS.

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Turns out they don't get sick from it.

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And anything he did to create a vaccine was a failure.

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And until he left the government just a few years ago, he was

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still personally involved in designing and conducting

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experiments on monkeys to give them different viruses.

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So, yeah, he's a, he's a really bad guy, certainly, You know, I

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think he's probably responsible for more suffering of animals

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and laboratories than any other single individual in history.

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And when you lay on top of that, of course, the what he funded in

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Wuhan that killed 20 million people and cost trillions of

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dollars, there's probably nobody worse.

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He's just, you know, the worst mad scientist in the history of

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humanity. So that's what I've been

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fighting since the, you know, my early days of college.

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And I joined forces with the guy who founded White Coat, Anthony

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Bellotti, also from the tri-state area.

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He's from Jersey. And he worked at an animal

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laboratory when he was in high school, thought he wants to be a

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doctor. So he got an internship at a

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hospital. Turns out they sent him into an

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animal lab. And he was so horrified, buddy,

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by what he saw. And he also has been on a

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mission since then to get the government out of the animal

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testing business. You know.

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Lance, hold on. I have a great idea.

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I mean, because I'm, I'm 100% against using animals for this.

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We should start using all these treasonous actors, you know,

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because we have a lot of Dems that, you know, committed

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treason, among other things that should be getting arrested soon.

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We should use them for the testing.

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I mean, why not, right? Leave the.

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Animals alone. To you to switch things up.

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Yeah. I mean, we, yeah, go ahead,

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Lance, Sorry. Well, you know, and a lot of

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times people, you know, it's, it's difficult, right out of

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sight, out of mind. But when I look through and I, I

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did something, I just kind of randomly searched some of the

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top 10 dumbest animal testing things that were listed.

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I asked the AI to kind of do it. I asked Brock and I and I, when

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I, when I saw the list, I was actually shocked at how

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incredible it is. And I always think that the

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people that do this, you know that and you see it on you see

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how intuitive animals are and you know that that this has got

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to hurt and be so damaging to them.

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You know it, it not only that they're, they're, they're killed

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afterwards, but Can you imagine having your eyes strapped open

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and, and, and what the having your brain attacked with acid?

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I'm sure that they yeah, a lot of this happens when they're not

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properly sedated. I I can't even imagine, but I

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started looking. Up some of the worst.

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Drug testing. So they talk about spiders being

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injected with drugs in 194895. Baby jellyfish in space in 1991.

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Transparent frogs for Cancer Research in 2007.

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Monkey head transplants 1970s 2018.

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Human ear on a mouse 1997 Chimpanzees raised as humans

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1931 Monkeys given hallucinogens 2012 alligators with drilled

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skulls. And that's recent.

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They drilled holes in their skulls for electrodes attached

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to study brain activity. Dog's teeth removed and gums

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cut. Sweden.

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That's a recent test. Octopus is given MDMA recent I

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mean. I'm, you know, and I'm, I'm

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curious, you know, the nature of these tests and when I just look

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at that list seems so idiotic. And I know there's much worse

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than this. What's some of the worst?

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Stuff just for the audience. Not that I'm trying to make

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people cringe, but what's some of the worst stuff you've

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discovered as far as testing that when you got to the root of

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it, you thought, what the hell? What kind of a moron thinks this

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is a test that matters? Because I feel like a lot of

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times this is done just to secure funding.

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They create some test that has some random justification that

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really doesn't isn't going to help humanity.

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And at the end of the day, they take the funding and I'm sure it

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gets funneled into lots of. Different things that we have no

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idea. Yeah, you're absolutely.

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You're right. Animal testing is bad science,

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but it's big business and that's why it continues.

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And it's big businesses that subsidized by federal tax

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dollars because the private sector would never in 1000 years

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pay for the type of stupid crap that the government is paying

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for. And when you look at kind of the

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rate there's 100 million animals in laboratories just in the

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United States, 100 million. And when you look at the types

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of experiments they're being used for, certainly they range

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from the silly to the sadistic and everything in between.

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So you have examples and studies we found that were funded by the

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National Science Foundation where they put fish on a

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treadmill or shrimp on a treadmill.

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So obviously on the stupid side of things.

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But then you have, you know that seems like.

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Important work. I've always wondered if a shrimp

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could work a treadmill or maybe an elliptical that's one of one

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of the big. Questions in my head, you know,

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when are shrimp going to be able to move from the treadmill to

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the elliptical and maybe start to work some free weights so

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they can bulk up? Go ahead.

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Yeah, I mean, no, you know, the only people benefiting from this

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stuff or the people lining their pockets with billions of our tax

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dollars, that's not giving a return on investment to

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taxpayers, improving public health.

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You know, the NIH budget was double 25 years ago.

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People are not living longer and chronic, you know, chronic

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disease is worse than this country.

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But so we have those stupid examples, animals on a treadmill

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and basically every animal who is who is in Noah's Ark has been

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put on the treadmill by some kind of taxpayer funded

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laboratory still going on to this day.

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You know, a more kind of egregious, horrendous version of

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that is we exposed an experiment a few years ago where they were

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buying Beagle puppies from these commercial puppy mills that

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breed puppies just for animal testing.

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They were injecting latex into their arteries to give them

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heart attacks and then forcing them to run on treadmills and,

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and variations of that experiment are still going on

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today and being funded by the government.

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And you don't have to, you know, you mentioned that.

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You can benefit humanity though. Explain to me that you falsify a

00:17:44
heart attack and then you torture the animal by putting.

00:17:47
How can humanity be? And that's my thing.

00:17:50
I guess if I could feel real justification for any kind of

00:17:53
improvement, but to me I don't know how that fixes a human

00:17:56
being from having a heart attack.

00:17:58
You synthesize the event. You know, and let's face it, Big

00:18:02
pharma and, you know, general medicine, the policy isn't, you

00:18:08
know, to, to treat and and fix the disease.

00:18:11
They just want to figure out a Band-Aid for the symptoms

00:18:14
because healthy people don't make money.

00:18:17
So perpetuating the cycle of sickness is really what it's all

00:18:21
about. That's where the money is,

00:18:22
right? We, we've seen it.

00:18:24
We've seen the way they overcharge us for services.

00:18:26
You know, Donald Trump is just, he's just basically scraping the

00:18:29
the very top of the iceberg when he's trying to talk about how

00:18:33
we're getting gouged on pharmaceutical prices versus

00:18:36
other parts of the world. But we're getting gouged.

00:18:38
I mean, I see the hospital bills.

00:18:40
We've had people come on the show and talk about the impact

00:18:43
of how they've gotten a bill that was just so excessive for

00:18:46
minor services. And because it wasn't covered,

00:18:49
they ended up, you know, in bankruptcy because they got

00:18:51
hundreds of thousands of dollars in charges.

00:18:53
I mean, three block ambulance bills that were were were

00:18:57
$25 for three blocks of ambulance carries.

00:19:01
So, but go ahead, Justin. No, I mean, you're absolutely

00:19:04
right. The incentives are very

00:19:05
perverse. There's actually no incentive to

00:19:07
solve the problem because the second you solve the problem,

00:19:09
the money goes away. So the incentive is to keep the

00:19:13
experiment going, to actually never find a cure, and to keep

00:19:16
saying, well, we just need more money.

00:19:17
If you just give us five more million this year, five more

00:19:20
million, and then all the sudden you have projects literally that

00:19:23
are going on for 4550 years, continuously funded with tax

00:19:26
dollars that have never done a single thing to improve human

00:19:29
health. There's a great example of that

00:19:30
inside the National Institutes of Health headquarters that we

00:19:34
exposed through our Freedom of Information Act lawsuit a few

00:19:36
years ago. We got videos of monkeys.

00:19:40
This is an ongoing experiment, been going on for nearly half a

00:19:42
century with they destroy the part of the brain that controls

00:19:45
fear. And these monkeys, they lock

00:19:48
them in a tiny cage. They can barely turn around and

00:19:50
chain them up by the neck. And then they open the they open

00:19:54
a, a screen in front of the cage and they startle the monkeys

00:19:58
with fake snakes and fake toy spiders.

00:20:01
This is this is all videotaped. And they are judging the

00:20:05
reaction of the monkeys who've had the fear part of their brain

00:20:09
damaged, who are horribly startled and terrorized and

00:20:13
terrified. And they're cowering in the back

00:20:14
of their cages trying to escape what they believe is a threat.

00:20:17
Like, you know, like humans, they're innately scared of

00:20:20
spiders and snakes. So they just do this and they

00:20:22
videotape it for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours.

00:20:25
And we have even have videos with the the scientists are

00:20:28
laughing while they're doing. This here's my question.

00:20:31
What could possibly when, when, when I hear about such a

00:20:34
horrendous experimentation like that, what, what's the sole

00:20:38
benefit? Well, how could the government

00:20:39
have that proposal? Here's what we're going to do.

00:20:42
We're going to lock these monkey in the cage.

00:20:43
We're going to damage their brains.

00:20:45
We're going to take out the fear part, and then we're going to

00:20:47
give them nothing but frightening images.

00:20:49
And here's what we're going to learn from that.

00:20:51
What, what's the take away on that?

00:20:52
Just that we're a bunch of miserable rotten, you know,

00:20:56
human beings that have the ability to terrorize a monkey.

00:21:00
I mean, what, what are they thinking that they could maybe

00:21:02
take a, a, a soldier and remove his ability to have fear and

00:21:06
they think he's going to become a more effective.

00:21:07
So I mean, what's the selling point?

00:21:09
How do they pitch that? Because I understand that you

00:21:12
guys have identified that we're spending over 20 billion

00:21:15
annually. Is that correct?

00:21:16
Is that number accurate? 20 billion.

00:21:18
Billion on this bullshit. I think it's wasteful and cruel

00:21:22
and ineffective. I mean, to be honest with you,

00:21:24
I'm, I'm not, I'm not the right guy.

00:21:25
I, I struggle with dark thoughts a lot because my thing is, you

00:21:29
know, I normally feel like a lot of things could be fixed with an

00:21:31
industrial wood chipper when it comes to these individuals.

00:21:34
And that's the difficulty I have because I've never liked

00:21:37
bullies. I was always a relatively tough

00:21:39
kid in New York. And I, I started boxing.

00:21:41
I did Silver Gloves and Golden Gloves.

00:21:43
I was a pretty tough, you know, SLB when I was little.

00:21:46
And I would often, you know, watch people pick on somebody

00:21:49
and I would step into it to kind of resolve it very quickly.

00:21:53
And because I was pretty highly skilled at an early age, I can

00:21:55
usually effectively take a bully out of action relatively quickly

00:21:59
as compared to them picking on somebody.

00:22:01
What? What?

00:22:02
How do you pitch that to somebody that you're going to

00:22:04
torture monkeys and do this to them?

00:22:06
What's the upside for this? How do they get the money?

00:22:09
It's all fear mongering. It's all fear mongering and

00:22:12
propaganda where the animal experimenters say, OK, we have a

00:22:15
human health issue, whatever it is.

00:22:17
You know, COVID was a great example of how any public health

00:22:20
crisis, any bio defense problem that the the world or the

00:22:25
government or the country is facing becomes a monkey grab and

00:22:28
a money grab where they say, oh, well, we're you know, there's

00:22:31
anthrax. This is how Anthony Fauci got

00:22:33
his power back in 2001. And there was those anthrax

00:22:36
attacks in O one that turned out to be an inside job from

00:22:39
somebody who works in the government.

00:22:41
And he and others use and the Defense Department use that as

00:22:45
an excuse to open up billions and billions of new funding for

00:22:48
quote, UN quote, bio defense programs, which are the type of

00:22:51
programs that created, funded the research that created the

00:22:54
Covic virus. So it's, you know, it's it's

00:22:59
this insidious, it's, you know, people use this term and it's,

00:23:02
you know, it's kind of hacking at this point.

00:23:04
But there is this deep state element of people who have built

00:23:07
these industries inside the government and do everything

00:23:10
they can to rake in more money every year by scaring the public

00:23:14
into thinking we need these programs or their and their life

00:23:16
depends on it. When really it's not doing

00:23:19
anything except enriching the individuals who are running

00:23:21
these programs and becomes like a self.

00:23:23
You know, the term in Washington, the self licking ice

00:23:25
cream cone. And that's a perfect example of

00:23:27
it is the government creates the virus.

00:23:29
The virus gets out and then the government and far and its

00:23:32
friends and farmer get rich by creating the the the quote UN

00:23:35
quote, treatment or cure for the virus.

00:23:37
And that goes on forever. So COVID is a great example of

00:23:41
that and no one's held accountable as the problem.

00:23:43
And that's, you know, to your point about the wood shipper, I

00:23:45
mean, these programs to end up, we should absolutely end up in

00:23:48
the wood shipper. You know, Donald Trump proposed

00:23:50
a 40% cut to the NI HS $48 billion budget specifically

00:23:55
because of what we exposed in Wuhan that gain a function

00:23:58
disaster. But instead of cutting the

00:24:00
funding, the Senate Republicans just gave NIHA raise refused to

00:24:06
cut its budget. And the current NIH leadership

00:24:09
is made-up of people Fauci's former colleagues, Obama and

00:24:12
Biden appointees, and people who don't share the agenda.

00:24:17
Why don't they? I don't understand how come

00:24:19
they're not getting fired and stuff?

00:24:20
Why are they still around? Well, This is why we've been

00:24:23
working closely with Laura Loomer because obviously she's

00:24:26
been able to get a lot of folks fired across the government who

00:24:29
are interfering with progress. And we're going to start doing

00:24:32
that at the NIH because there are people who, again, they're

00:24:34
trying to protect these programs.

00:24:36
I mean, literally a gain of function mad scientist who

00:24:39
resurrected the Spanish flu by working with someone to dig up a

00:24:42
dead body and harvest the virus from it, who worked for Fauci

00:24:47
for nearly 16 years, got promoted and took the Jay

00:24:51
Bhattachary, the NIH director under Trump gave this guy

00:24:54
Fauci's job. This guy was involved in the

00:24:56
COVID cover up since early 2020, published papers saying lably

00:25:00
was a conspiracy theory, saying that this came out of nature.

00:25:04
It was not created in the laboratory.

00:25:06
He was involved in that crazy dangerous research and now he

00:25:09
got a promotion because of it. That's the type of perverse

00:25:12
incentives that the government gives people is be a lunatic and

00:25:15
a liar and we're going to reward you handsomely.

00:25:18
And that's what's been happening at NIH.

00:25:19
Meanwhile, it did depend department Pete Hedgeseth has

00:25:23
been looking at our investigations and essentially

00:25:25
overnight cutting these programs.

00:25:27
So. You know, that's the thing that

00:25:28
I think's incredible that, you know, you guys, again, you guys,

00:25:31
everybody that watches this show, anybody that's new to the

00:25:34
show today, First of all, thanks for joining us.

00:25:36
You know, we go after both sides of that.

00:25:38
You heard him use the R word, right?

00:25:40
You heard him tell you that it's the Republicans that just stop

00:25:43
this funding from getting cut, and you have to ask yourself

00:25:46
why. You know, I often believe it's

00:25:49
because of the dark money, the foreign money, the lobbyists,

00:25:52
the Super PACs, the NGOs, the foundations that are funding

00:25:56
people's elections. Of course, a lot of wealthy

00:25:58
individuals get involved. You've seen it.

00:26:00
You've seen the backwards funneling that's been partially

00:26:03
exposed by Elon Musk, USAID and others.

00:26:07
But you know, it's really simple.

00:26:08
If NINIH is doing stuff we don't want him to, then why don't we

00:26:11
just cancel NIH? You know, we always talk about

00:26:14
Miley on this show. It's very simple.

00:26:16
He just, you know, if Wuego, if Wuego, he just started cutting

00:26:19
stuff because they didn't have the money to do it.

00:26:21
We're $37 trillion in debt and the last fucking thing I want to

00:26:24
pay. For.

00:26:25
Is to see a bunch of animals get tortured because when I get to

00:26:28
the root of these if and this is when, you know, on this show,

00:26:31
Justin, a lot of times we talk about common sense.

00:26:34
We say forget political affiliation, forget the

00:26:37
individual that's talking to you.

00:26:39
Just reach inside yourself and that's just common sense.

00:26:42
Does this make sense to you that that when you look at the actual

00:26:46
testing and you say, well, how does this 10 testing benefit

00:26:50
humanity or the animals themselves?

00:26:53
Let's say, you know, there's a new, new virus that supposedly

00:26:56
has been attacking rabbits in Colorado.

00:26:59
They're growing some kind of horns or whatever.

00:27:01
They've been choking around saying they're jackalopes.

00:27:03
But it's it looks pretty rough and I'm sure it's really painful

00:27:06
for the animals. If somebody was doing testing to

00:27:08
try to fix that, then I would kind of get it.

00:27:09
Or if we were trying to fix mad cow disease, or if we thought

00:27:13
there was a real link between cancer spreading through your

00:27:17
bones and maybe if that testing was going to.

00:27:19
When I look at these tests, 95% of the time for the life of me,

00:27:23
I can't figure out what the fuck they're trying to prove, Justin.

00:27:26
And that's the part that I'm baffled about, that how the

00:27:29
people in power, the Republicans and Democrats or anybody else

00:27:32
that's in charge of these budgets, how do they justify

00:27:35
this crap? Because, and this to me, this is

00:27:38
what I think is difficult. The American public maybe just

00:27:41
let's go because they don't understand really what's going

00:27:44
on. Am I right about that or is it

00:27:46
just me? No, you're 100% correct that

00:27:49
this gets the, you know, falls under the the umbrella of, you

00:27:53
know, public health research and people think it's as necessary

00:27:55
evil or that's what they've been told by people like Doctor

00:27:58
Fauci. But it's not necessary.

00:28:00
It's just evil and it's wasteful.

00:28:03
You know, you mentioned 95% of this, you know, you off the cuff

00:28:05
kind of said 95% of this crap seems insane.

00:28:08
It is. And that's actually the same

00:28:10
statistics that the NIH gives out for how much of this stuff

00:28:12
fails when it gets to people. So again, the return on

00:28:15
investment for for for taxpayers, for Americans is

00:28:19
horrendous. And to your point about who is

00:28:22
benefiting from this, why Senate Democrats, Republicans, everyone

00:28:25
alike is kind of on the same page with keeping the the spigot

00:28:28
on is because says look who's getting money, colleges and

00:28:32
universities that are spread out in States and congressional

00:28:34
districts across the country who are giving donations to these

00:28:38
members of Congress. A lot of this money from the

00:28:41
NIH, especially for dog testing, is going directly to

00:28:45
pharmaceutical companies to develop, to do live, you know,

00:28:50
to do testing on dogs to avoid liability and to bring in new

00:28:54
investors. And they even say in their

00:28:56
applications to the NIH give us millions of dollars to do dog

00:28:59
testing and other animal testing for our new drugs so we can go

00:29:02
out and get investors to invest in our drug.

00:29:05
Why the hell are taxpayers footing the bill for

00:29:07
pharmaceutical R&D that's going to generate billions of dollars

00:29:10
for private companies and millionaires?

00:29:12
And we're never going to see most of those drugs are going to

00:29:15
fail, and we're never going to see a penny of that money.

00:29:17
So, yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:29:18
You have to look at where this money is going.

00:29:20
That's our whole organization is built around the idea of

00:29:22
following the money. And that's why we're constantly

00:29:24
suing the government to see who's getting these contracts,

00:29:27
who's who's benefiting from them.

00:29:30
And it's certainly not the American taxpayer.

00:29:32
It's private companies. It's part of pharmaceutical

00:29:34
companies, it's mad scientists, it's professors, and it's

00:29:38
colleges and universities across this country that are literally

00:29:41
raking in that billion and billions of dollars every year.

00:29:44
And even if colleges and universities, you know, one of

00:29:46
the reasons they fight so hard for this money and oppose our

00:29:49
efforts to end animal testing is because they get, they have an

00:29:52
administrative slush fund that Trump has tried to attack, thank

00:29:55
God. But they're getting in some

00:29:57
cases, 100% on top of the grant money.

00:29:59
They get a matching 75 or 80 or 100% of money just for

00:30:04
administrative costs, so to keep their lights on, to keep bills

00:30:07
running for salaries and. For nice salary raises,

00:30:11
probably, you know, you know, vehicle leases, private jets,

00:30:16
limousine service, you know we saw that with we saw that with,

00:30:20
you know many of the. Political organizations you know

00:30:24
$100 for the you know the people running the RNC it for

00:30:29
floral yearly you. Know millions of dollars in

00:30:33
private jet services, you know, that's what happens.

00:30:36
They get they get this money and it comes so easily.

00:30:38
They get the big grant and then they get matching funds and they

00:30:41
probably don't even know what to do with all the money because

00:30:43
they never counted on getting that much.

00:30:45
But you know, you know, it's funny that the mission seems so

00:30:48
flawed out of the gate, which is incredible to me.

00:30:51
And that's the problem, right? We have, we have and I always

00:30:54
say this probably if we if we went through all their

00:30:58
communication devices and we went through all their finances.

00:31:00
And we drug tested them. I'd be surprised if we have 10

00:31:03
or 15 honest men and women in Congress.

00:31:06
I'd be shocked, right? The result would probably be

00:31:09
that we would find the majority of them are criminals and they

00:31:12
are up to no good. Their intent isn't good.

00:31:15
You know, even just the people that are taking funding from

00:31:17
George Soros. You know, I've looked at the,

00:31:20
the amount of things he finances and, you know, to me, he's an

00:31:23
international terrorist. I would put him on the list.

00:31:25
They're fortunate that I'm not the president of the United

00:31:27
States. The swiftness in which I would

00:31:29
stop NIHI would just close it overnight.

00:31:32
I, you know, I, I see so much of this stuff when it comes to the

00:31:35
FDA and the NIH. So many bad policies and bad.

00:31:38
There's George before I know we're probably heading towards

00:31:41
a. Break we are.

00:31:42
Yeah, you had something you wanted.

00:31:43
To come with. Oh, you didn't?

00:31:45
OK, Yeah, right. So one of our mods just got a

00:31:47
new puppy and I said send me a picture because everybody's

00:31:49
asking in the chat. However, I, I just want to, I'm

00:31:53
going to bring it up. This is picture of Bailey or a

00:31:57
new puppy. So I asked is I go with Bailey,

00:32:01
isn't it? I go Bailey.

00:32:04
You know, it's a boy's name, but also known as a girl's name.

00:32:08
It's true. I looked it up.

00:32:09
I said, what are you trying to confuse the dog making a TG dog?

00:32:12
You know what she said? She's supposed to be a

00:32:13
conservative hardcore. She will identify as she he sees

00:32:18
fit. Oh, no.

00:32:20
Yeah. So I have to put, I have to put

00:32:22
her out there for her saying that.

00:32:24
Go get her. Go get her in the chat, peeps.

00:32:26
No, it's a beautiful dog. Look at a boxer, right?

00:32:29
Yeah, I think so. Yeah, Bailey, she's adorable.

00:32:32
She is adorable. We're going to take a short

00:32:35
break. When we come back, we're going

00:32:36
to be talking to the Mission, Stop the money, stop the

00:32:39
madness, talk about some of the achievements of White Coat

00:32:41
Waste. But stay tuned because you guys

00:32:43
are going to have some homework. We're going to have you calling

00:32:45
Congress after this. We all want you to get on the

00:32:47
phone with your congressional members, House and Senate, and

00:32:50
tell them let's cut the bullshit.

00:32:52
This waste on animal testes got to stop.

00:32:54
You guys always want to know what you can do.

00:32:56
It's a simple phone call, 3 minutes out of your life to

00:32:59
leave a shitty message and how ridiculous this is.

00:33:01
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00:33:06
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00:33:28
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00:33:40
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00:33:41
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So while we were on the break, we were talking about some of

00:38:58
the stupidity of this. So for everybody at home, I know

00:39:00
you guys would be concerned in case your dogs have a drug

00:39:03
problem, in case you're using cocaine or methamphetamine, the

00:39:06
government is actively working on a program to maybe get them

00:39:10
the help they. Need.

00:39:11
Maybe they can get. Into a three-step program.

00:39:13
Of course I'm being a smart ass. Justin was just telling me I'm

00:39:17
going to have them tell them yourself, but they are still.

00:39:20
Injecting dogs with methamphetamine and cocaine.

00:39:23
Now my question is why the fuck are we doing that?

00:39:25
That just that is beyond ridiculous.

00:39:27
Justin, can you explain to the audience where is the the the

00:39:31
mites? And I guess you probably read

00:39:33
the paperwork on the program. What do they expect to learn

00:39:36
from injecting dogs with cocaine and methamphetamine?

00:39:40
Yeah, so they're doing lots of recreational drug experiments on

00:39:44
animals, from primates to dogs to rabbits to hamsters to all

00:39:49
kinds of animals. But the National Institutes of

00:39:52
Health, and we've been working with Senator Rand Paul that cut

00:39:55
the funding for this program for a few years, but it was actually

00:39:57
recently renewed, unfortunately, under the Trump NIH.

00:40:01
Is there pharmaceutical companies out there?

00:40:04
They're trying to develop drugs, And this is, you know, a

00:40:07
laudable goal to develop drugs to help people get off, you

00:40:11
know, if they're a cocaine addict or meth addict, help them

00:40:14
get off those drugs. And the way they're testing them

00:40:17
is they're injecting beagles. With methamphetamine and cocaine

00:40:22
and then injecting them with these experimental drugs to see

00:40:25
if when those drugs interact, they sicken or kill these

00:40:30
puppies, these little Beagle puppies.

00:40:31
Now, I'm pretty sure there's not a shortage of cokeheads and

00:40:35
speed freaks out there that be willing to volunteer for the

00:40:40
trial that they would get paid for and actually give us some

00:40:43
results that would be helpful to people.

00:40:45
But for, you know, these companies say that, well, for

00:40:48
liability reasons, we want to shoot this, shoot these drugs

00:40:52
into dogs 1st and see what happens, even though it's

00:40:54
completely irrelevant to what's going to happen to people.

00:40:57
And that's a project that has continually got renewed.

00:40:59
I think it's gotten close to $5 million already from the NIH.

00:41:03
And those beagles, of course, were killed at the end of the

00:41:05
experiments. And that's, you know, that's the

00:41:07
tip of the iceberg when it comes to this stuff.

00:41:10
The NIH just there's lots of dog, you know, all these, not

00:41:13
only are they funding this stuff, again, the pharma

00:41:15
companies, but colleges and universities across the country

00:41:18
are doing similar types of experiments on dogs, cats,

00:41:21
monkeys, rabbits and other animals.

00:41:24
Hold on, cocaine, methamphetamine pretty easily.

00:41:26
All you got to do is go to former or prior whatever, or

00:41:32
people in active addiction are doing cocaine, meth.

00:41:35
They'll tell you they're going to.

00:41:38
It does soup them up to get to have sex and stuff.

00:41:41
So we didn't even need animals for that to know that the

00:41:43
answer's right there. I think it's just something for

00:41:46
people to have jobs and get waste money and funnel money.

00:41:49
That's what I think it was all about.

00:41:51
I think it's the heart of it. I think there's a lot.

00:41:54
Of money laundering involved but if you wanted to solve the

00:41:56
methamphetamine and cocaine issue it's very simple shut off

00:41:58
all economic. Travel coming in from South, all

00:42:02
economic, you know, service coming in from the border, the

00:42:06
northern and southern borders. Don't let anything come in for a

00:42:08
while and then drone strike within those countries.

00:42:10
The cartels, if you really. Want to solve this?

00:42:13
There's a way to do it. If you got this kind of money

00:42:14
where you've got billions to spend, they wouldn't give Donald

00:42:17
Trump 5 or $7 billion to. Build a wall.

00:42:20
They could beef up security. They could cut off the conduit

00:42:23
if they continue the pressure on China.

00:42:25
That's not the only way they get precursor chemicals at the end

00:42:28
of the day. I don't, you know, when I think

00:42:30
about the animals aren't voluntarily saying, yeah, shoot

00:42:33
me up with some cocaine and methamphetamine.

00:42:35
And like you said, there are plenty of people on the street

00:42:37
damn near killing themselves every single day, if not killing

00:42:40
themselves car, fentanyl, other drugs.

00:42:42
And there's a whole bunch of new ones that are out now.

00:42:44
You know, to me, I don't see how this is going to help.

00:42:47
I don't see how it changes things because I don't think

00:42:50
because you can prove that a drug works in a puppy, which is,

00:42:53
you know, if they were doing this to primates and not that I

00:42:55
agree with that either, at least that would be closer to our

00:42:58
evolutionary chain. I don't see how a dog has the

00:43:02
same DNA or mRNA or anything else it's got that's similar to

00:43:06
human being. It doesn't make any sense.

00:43:09
But this to me often seems like make.

00:43:11
I would guess that the tremendous amount of this money

00:43:14
gets funneled off and, you know, money laundered is my guest.

00:43:18
How many times have you identified money that was

00:43:20
supposed to be going into one program and then found out that

00:43:23
the money was being funnelled into something completely

00:43:25
different or maybe even funnelled into the pockets of

00:43:28
the people that were involved in these operations?

00:43:30
And if you could put a number on it, Justin, this is a tough, I'm

00:43:33
putting you in a box here, so answer what you can.

00:43:36
How many times would you say if a, if, if 10 billion was given

00:43:40
out, how many actually goes into the testing that was applied to

00:43:44
and doesn't go into, you know, allegedly administrative or

00:43:47
other ways or just directly just flat out stolen?

00:43:51
What do you think the percentage of actually goes down to the

00:43:53
actual testing? Out of, I think the NIH may

00:43:58
have, the government may have estimated earlier this year that

00:44:01
at least 10% of the money that the NIH was giving out for

00:44:05
research was going into administrative funds.

00:44:07
So 4 billion out of something like 48 billion.

00:44:09
But the money is the dollar amount is much higher than that.

00:44:12
When it comes to waste #1 the programs themselves are wasteful

00:44:14
even if the money is being spent the way it's supposed to be.

00:44:17
But I'll give you a great example of money being misspent.

00:44:19
You know, I mentioned Fauci is not just a bureaucrat, he's a

00:44:22
monkey abuser. And he was until he, the day he

00:44:25
left on December 30, 1st, 2022 from the NIH, but he had funding

00:44:30
from the NIH to do SIV experiments on monkey on female

00:44:34
monkeys. SIV is the monkey version of

00:44:36
HIV. Monkeys don't get HIV.

00:44:38
So they have this monkey version of SIV of HIV.

00:44:41
They give to the monkeys and they expose them in lots of

00:44:44
horrible ways. But it turns out that the

00:44:47
monkeys, the monkey HIV experimentation money that Fauci

00:44:51
was receiving once COVID hit was all the sudden Fauci and his

00:44:57
colleagues was redirecting it to COVID research.

00:44:59
All the sudden they were doing COVID infection experiments on

00:45:02
animals. They were no longer doing what

00:45:03
the money was spent was intended for.

00:45:06
All the sudden they're doing COVID experiments with the same

00:45:08
money, which was not what it was earmarked for.

00:45:11
And of course we know, you know, when we talk about, you know,

00:45:13
these double dipping programs thought she got he got paid

00:45:17
well, obviously he was the single largest.

00:45:19
He was the single highest paid employee in the federal

00:45:23
government. So he's getting a huge salary.

00:45:25
He's getting millions and millions of dollars a year to do

00:45:27
these crazy monkey experiments. He's getting, he's giving out

00:45:31
money to do the gain of function research that created the virus.

00:45:34
And then he's raking in even more money.

00:45:37
And he and his colleagues are, you know, raking in even more

00:45:39
money to do the, the COVID experimentation after the virus

00:45:42
breaks out. So the yeah, the, the system is

00:45:46
so corrupt and the, and the incentives are so perverse.

00:45:49
And unfortunately, you know, he got pardoned last minute,

00:45:52
pardoned by Joe Biden. Now, it turns out that that

00:45:55
pardon was probably signed with an auto pen.

00:45:58
And there are legitimate questions about whether that

00:46:00
pardon was legitimate and whether it's going to hold up.

00:46:04
The senator. Rand Paul is already asking for

00:46:07
charges to be brought against Fauci for the gain of function

00:46:09
research. And there's two very clear

00:46:12
charges that Fauci can be indicted for if Pam Bondi

00:46:18
decides to do it. And there are things that have

00:46:19
come out of our investigation. One is that he repeatedly lied

00:46:24
to Congress, underoath both the House and the Senate about

00:46:27
funding gain of function in Wuhan.

00:46:30
He denied it, denied it, denied it to Rand Paul and to the House

00:46:34
Subcommittee on Coronavirus research on coronavirus

00:46:37
pandemic. So we never funded gain of

00:46:40
function in Wuhan. We have the receipts.

00:46:42
We have literal emails where the NIH and the people he funded to

00:46:46
do the research are saying thank you for lifting out the gain of

00:46:50
function pause. So we continue.

00:46:52
We can continue doing the gain of function experiments and

00:46:54
Wuhan. We have emails where they say

00:46:57
that. And also the NIH is after fact

00:46:59
she left, admitted that they funded gain of function at

00:47:01
Wuhan. So he repeatedly lied to

00:47:03
Congress. That's perjury.

00:47:05
That's up to five years in prison and a hefty fine.

00:47:08
The second thing is that he was using his personal e-mail for

00:47:11
NIH business to evade FOIA and open records.

00:47:14
And we have an e-mail when the Washington Post was running hit

00:47:18
pieces against white coat waste for exposing Fauci's Beagle

00:47:20
testing. He, Fauci was working hand in

00:47:23
love with them to put out this information to discredit us and

00:47:27
to defend him. And we have emails that he

00:47:29
exchanged with the Washington Post reporter where he says,

00:47:33
e-mail me at my Gmail. I'm not going to talk about this

00:47:36
on my NIH e-mail. And that again, there, there

00:47:40
could be an obstruction charge there.

00:47:42
It's illegal to that's a federal records charge there.

00:47:45
So he's looking at he could be in prison for up to 20 years and

00:47:49
face millions of dollars of fines.

00:47:51
He's got a presidential pardon, though.

00:47:54
But if the pardon was invalidated by Pam Bondi because

00:47:57
it was signed with an auto pen, If Biden didn't actually intend

00:48:00
to give him that pardon? If there's not evidence.

00:48:01
He did nothing, was in jail. No, nothing was invalidated yet.

00:48:06
No, that's correct. Yeah.

00:48:07
He's saying if that was to happen, if.

00:48:09
It was. You know, that's a big yeah,

00:48:10
because we got a lot of, we got a lot of auto pen part things,

00:48:15
pardons that should be reversed, but.

00:48:17
You know, but George, what's your feeling on this?

00:48:19
We haven't seen nothing. Yet that these pre emptive

00:48:22
blanket pardons that allegedly cover every single crime that

00:48:27
aren't specific. They aren't saying you're

00:48:29
getting a pardon related to COVID, but you're not getting a

00:48:32
pardon. For any of the rest of this.

00:48:35
My issue is, is that, you know, Fauci's become fabulously

00:48:38
wealthy off of this. You know, he's got a high level

00:48:40
net worth. For the longest time he had

00:48:43
Secret Service protection. I still question the legality of

00:48:48
Blanket, You know, everything you ever did in your life,

00:48:51
immunity, pardons. I don't understand the legality

00:48:54
of that. How you get a pardon pre

00:48:55
emptively when you haven't been charged #1 and #2 how it

00:49:00
allegedly covers every single crime you've ever committed in

00:49:03
your entire lifetime. Explain to me how that's even

00:49:06
possible, George, Because I can't.

00:49:08
When I look at the presidential parties of presidential immunity

00:49:11
and I look at some of those things.

00:49:12
And again, I'm not an expert in those areas.

00:49:14
There's other things I know about this particular thing.

00:49:16
I'm not an expert. But my point is, how does that

00:49:19
work? Hey, by the way, Justin, it

00:49:20
doesn't matter if you committed a crime when you're 10 or now,

00:49:23
I'm giving you a full blanket immunity.

00:49:24
I mean, give me one of those and I'll just go on a crime.

00:49:27
Wave the only. One that got blank.

00:49:28
Only one who got a blanket pardon.

00:49:32
I thought she did. Fauci got 1 going back to 2014.

00:49:34
And what's interesting is Fauci started working in the

00:49:37
government or he he started his role as the head of NYAD in 20

00:49:41
in 1984. But the pardon didn't go back to

00:49:43
1984. The pardon went back to 2014.

00:49:46
And you know what happened in 2014?

00:49:48
That's when he first started the research in Wuhan.

00:49:51
Well, so. The specific part in coincides

00:49:54
with that year just and there's many other things that Fauci did

00:49:57
wrong over the over time, but but it was not going to

00:50:00
coincidence at that the period that it covered.

00:50:02
So we need to subpoena Fauci's bank records and see who he gave

00:50:07
a donation to or wired money to, and that will probably lead you

00:50:11
to who he had to pay to get that parted.

00:50:15
Yeah. Because a lot of those partners.

00:50:17
They were. They were charging for those

00:50:19
pardons. I mean, so I don't know what's I

00:50:24
don't know. What's going on for about 15

00:50:26
minutes? Let me head to Home Depot. 1st

00:50:27
and I can probably get you all the answers you want out of

00:50:30
Anthony. Why don't you go Home Depot?

00:50:31
Well. I'm just going to pick up a few

00:50:34
items I might need to convince him that it's probably best.

00:50:36
You don't have them already, Yeah.

00:50:38
I might have some. I got them already anyway all

00:50:41
right, but. Let's talk about, but hold on, I

00:50:44
want to give the audience. Before we jump, no, no, hold on.

00:50:46
So go ahead. I put that up because someone

00:50:49
was asking if they could donate. So I went and I showed them

00:50:51
where to donate Button is so top right corner white button.

00:50:54
Everybody question is, will anything be done about these

00:51:00
pardons? I mean, we all know is autopen.

00:51:04
How, how much, how much long is it going to take?

00:51:06
How many investigations are or Lance?

00:51:08
Are they just going to do 1 big swooping investigation and

00:51:11
arrest? And that's why they're

00:51:12
federalizing. They're deputizing the National

00:51:16
Guard in DC right now. Maybe.

00:51:18
Could because of your theory. There are some discussions out

00:51:21
there that this is going to be. Kind of a big sweep up that the

00:51:23
reason the National Guard is not only because of the crime wave

00:51:26
in DC, but they've got some other things on the table.

00:51:29
Justin, I want to make it clear, I want to go back to something

00:51:32
just for a minute. I know that you've the the

00:51:35
cruelty in these experiments. You know, as graphic as they

00:51:39
are. I'd like you to just go through

00:51:41
maybe a couple of them. Very quickly for the audience,

00:51:44
because I want them to understand that this is, we're

00:51:46
not just talking about they go in there and they shave the the

00:51:49
animal on one spot. I mean, they're mutilating

00:51:51
kittens, they're poisoning these beagles or sticking electrodes

00:51:54
inside of cats. Can you just give the audience a

00:51:57
little bit of the graphic details of maybe one or two or

00:51:59
three of these experiments? Because they have to, I think,

00:52:02
to make the connection, to realize how important it is to

00:52:05
help somebody like your organization and to pick up the

00:52:08
phone. They have to understand those

00:52:10
same pets they've got in their homes.

00:52:12
They're taking someone out. You know what?

00:52:14
They're not pets. Of course, they're being raised

00:52:16
for this, but they're torturing these animals.

00:52:19
And I think the people need to really connect with that to

00:52:21
understand how important this is.

00:52:23
Yeah, thanks, Lance. And yeah, the dogs and the cats

00:52:25
who are being tortured in laboratories obviously are no

00:52:27
different than the ones who are sharing people's homes.

00:52:30
And actually, there's massive commercial puppy and kitten

00:52:34
mills that breed 10s of thousands of dogs and kittens

00:52:37
every year. They're born to die.

00:52:40
There's they breed them specifically to sell them to

00:52:43
laboratories to be killed. And some of these animals are

00:52:45
being tortured from their first week of life and experiments.

00:52:49
Not only are these commercial puppy and kitten mills, but some

00:52:52
of these government laboratory, these government funded

00:52:54
laboratories, some of them intentionally are with our tax

00:52:57
dollars, are breeding kittens to be crippled, dogs to suffer from

00:53:01
genetic disorders where they bleed out and they can't even

00:53:04
stand up. There's this massive operation

00:53:08
across the United States to breed sick and deformed animals

00:53:11
specifically to experiment on that's being funded with 10s of

00:53:13
millions of tax dollars. But two projects we recently

00:53:16
ended just to kind of talk about what these, what this looks like

00:53:21
is the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hedgeseth working with us,

00:53:24
Elon Musk, Laura Loomer. We did an investigation of a

00:53:28
laboratory at the University of Pittsburgh that was buying

00:53:31
kittens and shoving marbles up their asses and then

00:53:37
electroshocking them to make them poop the marbles out in

00:53:42
Constipation and erectile. Who was doing this?

00:53:44
Experiments The Department of Defense was paying for this to

00:53:47
happen at. The how?

00:53:48
How would we take some fucking bowling balls, shove them up

00:53:50
their asses and and do that. See if they can with Electro.

00:53:53
See if they can fucking shoot them out.

00:53:54
The nature of that, right, what exactly could potentially what's

00:53:58
the learning curve on that and what is that going to do for

00:54:01
anybody? I just, you know, and to me, a

00:54:04
person that's able to do that. Right.

00:54:06
I, I, I would never be capable of doing that.

00:54:09
It would be different maybe if I was dealing with a member of

00:54:11
Congress that I realized was, you know, an enemy of the

00:54:14
people. And really, I mean that, you

00:54:17
know, the person that can do that is a.

00:54:19
Sociopath that the person that can actually victimize an animal

00:54:23
and do this on a daily basis. That person, in my opinion, is

00:54:26
dangerous. They can cross over the line in

00:54:29
a manner they're dangerous for society because you know, when I

00:54:33
travelled and I and I saw some of the things first hand in

00:54:35
foreign countries of how people behave, often somebody that was

00:54:39
cruel to an animal was just as, you know, even more cruel to a

00:54:42
human being. The the thing was, once they

00:54:44
crossed that line, they were pretty much capable of doing

00:54:47
anything. And I think this person, they

00:54:48
can say it's in the name of science.

00:54:51
But it's all unnecessary, and I know this, and I want to make

00:54:53
this clear to the audience. Some people might say, well,

00:54:56
they're doing important testing. Somebody might be trying to

00:54:58
justify this in their head. You have to think about quantum

00:55:01
computing at this point. You have to think about AI.

00:55:03
And I want you to talk about this, Justin, because I think

00:55:05
this matters. There are other ways to do this.

00:55:08
There's advances in non human alternatives, white coast

00:55:12
weights. There are technologies like, you

00:55:14
know, Organon a chip, computational modeling, in vitro

00:55:17
methods that provide a much superior result to animal

00:55:22
testing. Now, first of all, we have to

00:55:24
get to the common sense. I don't think we need to shove

00:55:26
marbles up kittens asses or give MDMA to octopuses.

00:55:30
I don't think that's necessary. We have to get down to the maybe

00:55:32
the 10 or 20% of these tests and it might be common sense and

00:55:36
then use a computational model, use computer testing, quantum

00:55:39
computing and AI. That is far superior to animal

00:55:42
testing because at this point, even at the state we are right

00:55:46
now, and everybody sees this, AI has gone to a a point where the

00:55:50
truth of the matter is you could probably plug a disease in of

00:55:53
your own and get better answers than maybe 85 or 90% of the

00:55:57
doctors out there because it's able to scrape data from across

00:56:01
the entire globe. And we're probably only 12

00:56:03
months away from giving definitive answers.

00:56:06
Now. Does big pharma want that?

00:56:08
No. Does the medical industry want

00:56:09
that? No.

00:56:09
They'll probably be put out of business in a lot of ways.

00:56:11
If anybody this is common sense, can you tell us about these

00:56:14
advances and non animal alternatives?

00:56:17
Yeah. So right now the problem is

00:56:18
there's a lot of great technology out there.

00:56:20
There's just no incentive to use it because the government is

00:56:23
happily willing to waste $20 billion a year on animal

00:56:26
testing. So if you've only known animal

00:56:28
testing, only done animal testing, and built your career

00:56:30
on animal testing, why stop? You're not being forced to, you

00:56:34
know, so our model is cut the money, stop the money, stop the

00:56:37
madness is obviously our motto. But what that means in real life

00:56:39
is cut the funding. If the private sector wants to

00:56:43
pick up the the tab of pharmaceutical companies or Bill

00:56:45
Gates or someone wants to pay for this, let them go ahead.

00:56:48
They're going to be much more choosy about what they put their

00:56:50
money into. And taxpayers won't be forced to

00:56:53
foot the bill for these things that have a horrible return on

00:56:55
investment. So, yeah, there are great

00:56:57
technologies out there. RFK has been talking about them.

00:57:00
There's things where you know you can.

00:57:03
It typically takes many months or years to screen how a

00:57:06
chemical or drug is going to impact the human.

00:57:09
But with things like AI and computational modeling, you can

00:57:12
screen thousands and thousands of drugs very, very quickly in a

00:57:16
fraction of the time it takes to do with animal tests and way

00:57:18
more accurately against human, human biology.

00:57:22
So, yeah, it's, you know, this cutting animal testing.

00:57:25
It's, you know, it's about saving tax dollars for us.

00:57:27
It's about saving animals lives. But ultimately it's going to

00:57:30
save human lives. It's going to improve human

00:57:32
health. So it's really a win win for

00:57:33
everybody. But we're not, you know, you

00:57:36
know, we're there. There are organizations out

00:57:38
there that are saying cut, you know, ban all animal testing

00:57:40
across the board. And great, that wouldn't that be

00:57:42
nice? But right now, the government is

00:57:44
Public Enemy #1 the single largest funder.

00:57:46
And we would change the face of this problem as we knew know it,

00:57:50
because their government got out of the animal testing business

00:57:53
and let the private sector deal with it.

00:57:54
Because again, you know, pharmaceutical companies are not

00:57:57
going to pay to put fish on treadmills or shrimp on

00:57:59
treadmills or the other nonsense that the government is paying

00:58:02
for. They're going to be way more

00:58:03
particular. And they also have to be

00:58:06
answered there. They also are answerable to

00:58:09
shareholders, to the public. And the government is not.

00:58:11
You can't boycott the government unless you don't pay your taxes.

00:58:14
So we're being forced to pay for something we don't want, we

00:58:17
don't like, and we don't need. And that's what that's the model

00:58:20
we're trying to change to create some more accountability because

00:58:23
you can boycott cruelty free cosmetics all day long.

00:58:26
The truth is animal testing isn't really happening for that

00:58:28
purpose anymore. It's this type of lab

00:58:30
experimentation you and I are talking about now that is

00:58:33
happening at colleges and universities under the cloak of

00:58:37
secrecy. You know, these these agencies

00:58:40
are refusing to turn over documents.

00:58:41
We have no idea how our money is really being spent.

00:58:44
So, you know, sunlight is the best.

00:58:46
It's effective. Show us what we're paying for

00:58:48
and let us hold the government account for wasting our money.

00:58:52
So there's better technology out there.

00:58:53
There's a lot of waste, fraud and abuse happening.

00:58:55
People like Anthony Fauci's fingerprint.

00:58:57
Fauci's fingerprints are still all over the NIH.

00:58:59
He's been gone for three years. But billions of dollars of

00:59:02
programs that he personally set into motion are still there.

00:59:05
His colleagues are still working there.

00:59:07
And we haven't cleaned that mess up yet.

00:59:09
So until we end that legacy at the NIH of waste, fraud, abuse,

00:59:13
cruelty, the problem's not going to get better.

00:59:16
And that's why we're frustrated right now.

00:59:17
The Defense Department, the Department of Veterans Affairs,

00:59:20
the EPA, all doing a great job. Lee Zeldin at the EPA, Pete

00:59:25
Hedgeseth, John Phelan, Secretary of the Navy, Brooke

00:59:28
Rollins at the at the USDA, Doug Collins at the Department of

00:59:32
Veterans Affairs have all made great decisions to cut animal

00:59:35
testing virtually overnight, cutting programs that we

00:59:38
exposed. Meanwhile, with the NIH, they're

00:59:40
renewing programs set up, set into motion under Fauci, and

00:59:43
they're starting up brand new funding, millions and millions

00:59:46
of it every single week for new experiments on dogs, cats,

00:59:49
primates, other animals, Money going to pharma, money going to

00:59:52
colleges and universities. This is not what Trump wants.

00:59:55
He made it very clear cut 40% of funding at the NIH.

01:00:00
He wants to get rid of these programs because of what happens

01:00:02
in Wuhan. He knows how bad the problem is.

01:00:05
But there are these holdovers from previous administrations

01:00:08
who don't have the same vision for what the agency should be.

01:00:12
And we're, you know, we're disappointed.

01:00:14
And NIH Director Jay Bhattacharyya right now because

01:00:17
he's been letting the spending, you know, keep, keep going.

01:00:20
And that problem's actually gotten worse on his watch.

01:00:22
Why do? You think he's continuing to let

01:00:24
it go when he's heard from Trump, the policy?

01:00:26
Do you think as he's a holdover, do you think he's getting

01:00:28
kickbacks? What's your what's the

01:00:30
reasoning? Why is he continuing to allow

01:00:32
going? And why do you think the

01:00:33
Republicans voted against cutting the NIH budget is

01:00:37
because they're benefiting from, you know, payments or dark money

01:00:40
or money that's getting funneled in one way.

01:00:42
I mean, just spell it out like it is because I'm also going to

01:00:45
have you give the audience some homework.

01:00:47
I'd like you to tell them, you know, you can always call a

01:00:49
congressional member and let them know that you're going to

01:00:51
tell your friends and family to not vote for them.

01:00:53
If they don't fix this. You can leave a, you know, a

01:00:55
very short message on their line and say, if you don't cut this

01:00:58
bullshit out, I'm going to make sure in the next election my 30

01:01:01
or 40 family members are not going to vote for you.

01:01:04
It's one of the ways you can try to intimidate them, you know, to

01:01:07
leave those kind of messages. I do them all the time.

01:01:09
They probably hate my guts. I'll tell them I'm going to

01:01:12
expose your ass if you don't fix this.

01:01:14
So why do you think that those people are still allowing this

01:01:18
to continue when they know that the Trump administration wants

01:01:20
to put an end to it? So with NIH Director Jay

01:01:24
Bhattacharyya, you know, he was appointed, nominated by the

01:01:28
Senate, appointed by Trump to take over the NIH.

01:01:32
He was a COVID contrarian. You know, he he challenged

01:01:36
lockdowns early on and he was really maligned for it.

01:01:39
And I think he wants to redeem himself and earn back the

01:01:42
respect of the scientific community.

01:01:45
And so he it does not have the slash and burn approach that

01:01:48
Trump and I think RFK to some degree have with regard to the

01:01:52
NIH, just see it as irreparable, you know, irredeemable.

01:01:57
And I think the NIH is in a lot of ways irredeemable.

01:01:59
There is just so much corruption and ways for I think it's time.

01:02:02
To fire him is a time for the Trump administration to replace

01:02:04
him already because he's not doing the job he was brought in

01:02:07
to do. I think he needs a stern talking

01:02:09
to and, you know, some of the some of the decisions he's made

01:02:12
about, you know, replacing Fauci with another gain of function

01:02:16
lunatic who helped cover up the COVID lab leak.

01:02:20
He's made animal testing czar out of a Obama holdover who is a

01:02:26
Fauci actor. Sounds like lots of bad choices,

01:02:29
right? It sounds like he's continuing

01:02:31
the NI HS criminality. He's just he's the legacy of

01:02:34
Fauci continues on through this guy.

01:02:36
Sounds to me like he needs to go, you know, once in a while

01:02:40
Scavino and Donald Trump watch this show.

01:02:42
So my thing would be like, look, you guys made a mistake.

01:02:44
You put the guy, the wrong guy in place.

01:02:46
Let's get rid of him and replace him because it sounds like he's

01:02:48
just another Fauci style trader. I would recommend boot his ass

01:02:53
out and let's find somebody else.

01:02:54
Maybe ask Justin who might be a good appointment because

01:02:57
continuing to waste the American public's money like.

01:02:59
This is just. You know, I, I, you know, I see

01:03:02
a vision for a future. Without the, you know, animal

01:03:05
testing, government animal testing.

01:03:07
I think it's unnecessary. And I think as the, the, the,

01:03:10
the modelling that AI and quantum computing can do, I

01:03:13
think a lot of this kind of testing is going to be

01:03:15
unnecessary because it's going to be able to do the work of,

01:03:18
you know, thousands of tests and thousands of human beings in

01:03:21
matter of seconds and determine what the outcomes are going to

01:03:24
be without any of it. Yeah, and I know Jay.

01:03:26
I know Jay for a long time. We were very excited when he got

01:03:30
when he got appointed to the role and got nominated and got

01:03:34
confirmed by the Senate. He took over on March 31st.

01:03:38
We're almost six months in. He's made a lot of empty

01:03:41
promises about cutting animal testing.

01:03:42
He's saying that they're looking at investing in moving towards

01:03:46
reducing animal testing. Meanwhile, the other agencies,

01:03:49
they're overnight just cutting these programs.

01:03:53
It doesn't take a. Lot of, you know, when people

01:03:55
start telling me they're investigating, we're

01:03:57
researching, we're holding a committee or a panel, to me,

01:04:01
that's just a bunch of bullshit. You know, if you want to

01:04:03
actively fix something, it's very simple, especially when

01:04:06
you're the head guy and you're in charge.

01:04:07
You just cut it off at the neck and then you figure out anybody

01:04:11
that tells me that they they've got to investigate and think

01:04:13
about it and research and they're in panelling.

01:04:17
Normally that's a total crock of crap.

01:04:19
It never goes anywhere. And to me, it's just.

01:04:21
It's a major. It's yeah, it's just

01:04:23
stonewalling. Let's talk about.

01:04:26
I want to give you time. Yeah.

01:04:28
I just want to say one thing. You know, he and his deputy had

01:04:30
they didn't after pressure from us, Laura Loomer and some

01:04:33
others, they did. AJ does a podcast every week,

01:04:36
maybe every week, where he he features somebody.

01:04:38
Last week, he featured the his replacement for Fauci.

01:04:42
But who's this also problematic. But he and his deputy who he

01:04:46
made his animal testings are recently said, you know, all

01:04:48
these problems predate them. Meanwhile, we're tracking brand

01:04:51
new contracts and grants every week that have happened since

01:04:54
then. And with regard to Congress and

01:04:56
Republicans and the Senate refusing to cut the NIH budget,

01:05:00
it's because they are beholden to the colleges and universities

01:05:05
and the professors and all these mad scientists who work in their

01:05:07
state and district. They're bringing in billions of

01:05:09
dollars for animal testing. So for them, this is a cash cow.

01:05:13
Why would they? Why would they cut the funding

01:05:15
off? They don't care about animals.

01:05:16
They care about getting re elected.

01:05:18
Yeah, tell him he's more than welcome to have George and I on

01:05:21
his podcast. I'll volunteer to come on.

01:05:23
He may not like the result because I'll call out his

01:05:26
bullshit on spot. I'll probably cut the feed at

01:05:29
the end of the day, but that's the problem, right?

01:05:31
If you if you if you if you run a show.

01:05:33
We put on pretty much people from both sides of the aisle.

01:05:35
We put on contrarians on this show.

01:05:37
I'm ready to challenge any of them on a discussion.

01:05:39
If they've got facts, they can make an outman us, but they're

01:05:42
not willing to do that right? They've always got to have yes

01:05:43
men around them. And at the end of the day, you

01:05:46
can talk the talk, but are you walking the walk?

01:05:48
Sounds like he's not walking the walk.

01:05:50
We don't have enough time. Donald Trump's in here only for

01:05:53
a four year term. We've already burned up.

01:05:54
You know, whatever it is now six, 7-8 months.

01:05:57
It's time that action speaks louder than words.

01:05:59
So let me give you a chance to George, you got I I want to make

01:06:03
sure George, you got anything out in the chat or anything you

01:06:04
want to mention? Here, no, I put up the website

01:06:07
for him. OK, so tell me where the go

01:06:11
ahead and let's do the shameless plug part.

01:06:12
How can people get involved? Where can they support you?

01:06:16
And then finally, I want you to give our audience some homework.

01:06:19
I want them to pick up the phone today and leave a shitty message

01:06:23
for all their senators and congressmen, state and federal,

01:06:26
and tell them that they're going to tell their entire family

01:06:28
members to not vote for them. And they've got you can tell.

01:06:32
You can exaggerate your families.

01:06:33
You can tell them you got 50-60 people in your family and you're

01:06:35
going to tell them how they support torturing kittens with

01:06:38
having marbles shoved up their asses.

01:06:41
Let's go ahead and have the audience.

01:06:42
I want you to give me some homework, Justin at after you do

01:06:45
everything else and plug everything that you need for

01:06:47
support. All right, yeah.

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platforms at White Coat Waste. We're very active on X.

01:08:17
We post on Instagram, we have videos up on YouTube, Facebook,

01:08:21
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01:08:24
think we mentioned the beginning at Justin R Goodman.

01:08:27
If you want to go on X and follow me there and see me

01:08:30
talking shit about how the government's, you know,

01:08:33
torturing animals with our money and giving people ways to take

01:08:36
action. Are you guys on true social?

01:08:40
We, I think, have a truth social, but I don't know that

01:08:42
we're very. You should work that because

01:08:44
you'd be surprised how much Davino and Trump pay attention

01:08:47
to what's in the feed over there.

01:08:48
You might be surprised if you put up some of that stuff

01:08:51
talking about what's still going on and how people that that are,

01:08:55
you know, in, you know, land pocket still.

01:08:57
Here's my prediction because we all know Trump watches his show

01:09:00
from time to time because sometimes we talk about stuff

01:09:02
and boom, all something happened.

01:09:03
So Trump, let's go make this happen.

01:09:06
Get rid of this freaking animal testing once and for all.

01:09:09
We'll see what. Happens.

01:09:11
We'd love that. Thank you, George.

01:09:13
Yeah. And his you know, he probably

01:09:14
knows this already, but the first family are big supporters

01:09:17
of ours. Don Junior, Eric Lara Trump have

01:09:21
all been supporters of white coat for a long time.

01:09:23
Sharing our content, doing, you know, Lara's, you know, was a

01:09:26
big support of black during the first Yeah.

01:09:28
Huge animal person, so yeah. She was just hanging out.

01:09:32
With cows or something this weekend or some shit.

01:09:35
So that Laura Loomer was. Hanging out with cows.

01:09:38
Lara Trump. Yeah, Lara Trump.

01:09:40
She's been doing a lot of work with us together.

01:09:41
Laura Loomer is such a great animal advocate.

01:09:44
She and I talk, you know, whenever she's posting to save

01:09:46
some animal that's on death row or otherwise.

01:09:49
We reposted. She, she and I chat once in a

01:09:51
while about it because. I appreciate how she puts her

01:09:54
money where her mouth is when it comes to animals and we try to

01:09:56
do the same thing. So, so let me say this to the

01:09:59
audience. Make sure, number one, you

01:10:00
follow his accounts, Justin R Goodman and of course, white

01:10:03
Coat waste. I would recommend you guys get

01:10:06
on true social and start posting your content regularly, not

01:10:09
necessarily because of the growth that's available there,

01:10:11
but because I know that Donald Trump pays close attention to

01:10:14
what comes into the fees there. And I think that if you got

01:10:17
reposted over there, we'd help you get reposted.

01:10:19
We'd try to do what we can. To get you in front of him.

01:10:22
We know that. Let me read some of our posts.

01:10:23
We've had some interaction. My point is, is I think that

01:10:26
would get you right on top of it because this is a bunch of

01:10:29
bullshit. It's continued government waste.

01:10:32
You know, you and you guys know, does this make any common sense

01:10:35
to you? And you know, and again, I don't

01:10:37
need to repeat myself, but shoving marbles up kittens

01:10:40
asses, I don't think this is a top priority for government

01:10:43
spending. We've got veterans living on the

01:10:45
street. There's lots of other things

01:10:47
that are getting impacted. So the work that Justin is

01:10:50
doing, you know, make a financial contribution, repost

01:10:53
his content, reposting and getting this stuff to go viral.

01:10:56
Take his content right now. If he's not on true social, take

01:10:58
it off X, post it on true social, Post it on Getter, post

01:11:02
it on Gab, all that stuff, that repetitive stuff.

01:11:05
And then I I've got some homework for the audience, for

01:11:07
the big, big mafia and subscribers and the listeners.

01:11:09
I'm not giving, I don't give homework away so he could be

01:11:12
back. A little.

01:11:12
Homework. I want you to pick up a phone

01:11:14
today, and I want you to leave a a message for your senators and

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congressmen and your States and tell them that they don't fix

01:11:20
this. You're going to make sure your

01:11:21
entire family doesn't vote for them.

01:11:23
And then maybe graphically let them know you don't want to see

01:11:26
any more kittens being tortured, any monkeys having their brains

01:11:30
splashed with acid, that Anthony Fauci is a criminalist.

01:11:33
As far as you're concerned. Leave that message and let them

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01:11:39
If they don't fix this, you're going to try to make sure they

01:11:41
don't get re elected. And that includes people on both

01:11:44
sides of the aisle. If we don't work together, it's

01:11:46
never going to happen. So of course, Justin, first of

01:11:49
all, thank you so very much for joining the show.

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George last words on the way out the gate, my brother.

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