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All men are created equal, that they are endowed by their
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Creator with certain unalienable rights.
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By Liberty. If liberty means anything at
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all, it means right to tell people what they do not want
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Welcome back to the big, big SHOW.
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Of course, I'm your host, Lance Miliaccio with my Co host George
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Ballantine. Rise and grind, tip of the
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spear, edge of the knife. You know how we do it on this
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show. Cause of course, you know, if
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liberty means anything at all, means the right to tell people
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what they do not want to hear. And that's what we plan to do
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each and every episode. If you're joining us for the
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first time, you know, the plan is to educate and unify the
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country because on this show, nobody's safe.
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We go after both sides of the aisle because again, there's
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only two teams, traders and Patriots.
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George Ballantine, what's up, bro?
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How was your weekend, man? How's it going?
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My weekend was actually pretty good.
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You know, it was good. A lot of good games this
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weekend, to be honest. You know, good games between
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football and baseball. Yankees took two out of the
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three in Boston. That's good.
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I'm happy with that. At least I didn't get killed.
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My team, Giants lost. They suck.
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But a lot of good games, close games and everything.
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It was good, though. Giant they went into overtime.
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Alabama had a game the other day I didn't see.
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How did they do? They kicked ass.
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They did good. It's good.
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It's good. You got to be feeling.
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Yeah they did good. Georgia almost lost.
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They should have the kicker 3 seconds left and the other team
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garden than a gardener in a war. We're joined by a great guy.
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I'm excited about this because I've followed him for a long
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time. I've always watched his post.
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I love how outspoken he is. Of course, you know, as a New
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Yorker and George, George, myself, kind of a couple of New
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York boys, we like people that speak what's on their mind, that
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they don't sugarcoat it, they don't hold back.
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Of course, I'm talking about John Rocker.
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He's back in the the green room. George referred to it as the
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bullpen for the day for a number of reasons.
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You guys know why this guy's fiery, right?
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He's a former MLB. They may not know why
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everybody's a baseball fan. He's a relief pitcher.
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Yeah, well, he he was a closer with a crazy, blazingly fast 98
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mile per hour fastball. That was in the late 90s.
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However, Lance, I will say his closing abilities did not work
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well for him in 1999. Oh, no, you're you're taking a
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pick at the Pennant. That's ugly.
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George, let me tell you something.
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John will take that personal. I know he will come out of that
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bullpen. He may come after you for that.
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But Sir, here's the deal. But this guy's brought.
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He's filtered. He did good.
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He he brought the He 19. He they want to see the Pennant
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in 1998 with him. So you got a ring there?
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No, I think it was 99 was the Pennant winning series season
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for him, wasn't it? I hope I have that right.
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Well, he's going to straighten us out to make sure.
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I'm pretty sure he won in 99, but he had an interview in 99
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with Sports Illustrated where he really spoke his mind.
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It was raw and filtered. I thought it was a great
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interview, but of course he took some He took.
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He's probably one of the first guys to really deal with cancel
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culture. I think it was early on when
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when they came after him and they wouldn't have him for a lot
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of reasons. But I but I love the way he's
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come on social media. He's always said exactly what's
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on his mind and we're going to talk about some of his career,
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but we're also going to talk about current events because
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he's had some posts that have gone really vital as of late,
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some stuff about Charlie Kirk and otherwise.
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Let's bring him in. There's no reason to leave him
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backstage. I'm sure he's going to want to
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take a shot at George early out of the gate and I and I would
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support him in that. Sometimes you have to take the
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shot if it's clean. All right, John Rocker, man,
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thanks for coming to the game. Welcome him.
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Welcome to the big, big show, John Rocker.
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I just had to set my alarm when we didn't wake me up again.
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Yeah, yeah, that intro took a while.
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Guys, guys, do your show prep. That's all I got to say.
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Your show Prep 99. Yeah, I knew it was 99.
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No, you said 98. It was 99.
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Yeah, we. Got 9098.
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We got beat by the Padres, the NLCS.
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Yeah, yeah, they, they, they got NLCS.
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Exactly so. They they actually had it right.
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Yankees got them four straight. That was back in a in a year.
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What was it, 98992000? The Yankees won ten straight
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World Series games, I think. Yeah, yeah.
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Unbelievable. That team, that team.
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Was Oh yeah, wait, you got swept in.
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You got swept four O 99. Yeah, and the Padres got swept
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in 98 Yankees beat. I'm sorry you won in in 2021.
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My bad. Yeah, yeah, many, many, many
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years later. That was old and broke down.
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You won, though. Yeah, that's what he did.
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Yeah. The Yankees played Arizona, I
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believe it was Arizona next year was the Mets next year and won
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the 1st 2. At one point in time, the
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Yankees won 10 consecutive World Series games.
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That that might be one of the best teams in in in the history
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of baseball, one of the unbelievable staff they had.
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OK, that. Was that that was crazy.
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It really went in for that for obviously for the we all grew up
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as Yankees fans. I don't know.
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I couldn't tell. I always, I always questioned
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giving a bunch of drunk people bats on bat day.
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I was never sure about that but. I know I'll tell you a quick a
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quick aside. So you've been to Yankee Stadium
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a number of times, I'm assuming? Yeah, maybe once or twice.
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I am I pitching in in janky Stadium or what?
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What year it was. Look back and check the runner a
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second. I see Andrew Jones sprinting in
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from center fields. This is like, this is like live
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game action. I'm like the hell, I'll step
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off. Andrew runs up to the second
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base umpire system saying that everybody off the field like the
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fuck is going on here getting dugout.
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Umpire's talking to Bob. Yeah, there was Bleacher
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Creatures in centerfield, the centerfield bleachers Yanks.
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They throwing bored darts at Andrew Jones darts.
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Oh no. Do you play darts with the lawn?
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Darts. The big lawn dart.
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Oh yeah. There, there, there.
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That's. Those are your pythons, right
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there. Those are your pythons.
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Yeah, you know, there, there's no doubt.
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My, my, what might have been you?
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Yeah, you know, I never threw any lawn darts in anybody.
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We might have thrown some trash on the field.
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A different talk. I can say with 100% certainty
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was never me because I never sat in the bleachers so.
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I'm putting too much, too much money in there for the
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bleachers, yeah. Yeah, you know, George might
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have. Been what was the one year was I
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can't believe it was there Shay the private mission was a can a
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canned good like like a canned yeah that was shade wife and.
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Shade did that. Yeah.
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You want, you want you all. You want those animals, those
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monsters coming here for a 900 cent can of beans.
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Yeah. Yeah, it was.
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It was. Crazy, you know that?
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How much it? Was a crazy crowd back then, you
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know it's. Changed.
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Well thought out, not a well thought out promo.
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Yeah, the, the, the ground is still pretty animated.
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But of course, you know, back then, I don't know, things have
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changed, you know, you know, even Major League sports, it
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just seems so different now. There's so many things
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politicized about it, but I want to go back a little bit with
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you. I was, I looked at some of your
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history here. You know, first you grew up in
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Georgia, but you threw three no hitters.
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I hope I have that right in high school.
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Yeah, something like that. I mean, that's, that's, that's,
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that's crazy for a high school ball.
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Ball high school hitters there, they're tough.
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And you were drafted by the Braves straight out of high
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school, correct? I was I was supposed to.
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I noticed you you guys brought up some some Georgia football a
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few minutes ago. I'm a drunk, obnoxious Georgia
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fan. I was supposed to play college.
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My college baseball there gave the gave the scholarship back
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when but I started my career with Atlanta.
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Did you ever have a what if moment?
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Did you ever think maybe that was a good or bad decision?
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A couple of hours ago. Yeah, a couple hours ago, as a
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matter of fact. Wait, are you a Dogs fan?
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Drunk, obnoxious Roll Tide 24/7, baby.
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Yeah, I know I'm not allowed to swear on the shell.
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I am right. Blame Evan and.
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Evan set you up for that? I always want to check, you
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know, and make sure the FCC is not going to fucking fucking
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hand me together. No, no, you, we we go all in on
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this show. You pretty much there's it's
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since we're on rumble, we've already been suspended on
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YouTube multiple times. Since we're on Rumble, we pretty
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much say whatever the hell we want.
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YouTube has never been a huge fan of this show.
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For sure. We've had our fallouts with
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them. Of course, all we ever did was
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post the truth, but you know how that is.
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They don't always like the truth over.
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There Oh you, you YouTube, you know controlled by the like
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controlled by the libs. So yeah, so let.
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Me ask you about your rookie year.
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Do you have any stories you haven't shared yet?
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I know you, you know, and, and obviously you authored quite a
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few of your stories, but anything behind the scenes that
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happened to your rookie year that was pretty funny or that
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you were never really mentioned before?
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You know, rookie year has been 27 years ago.
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Jesus Christ. You know, I won't say anything
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funny. I will tell you probably one of
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the funniest stories I've got. You guys are obviously a fan of
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Jim Tommy. Yeah, one of the most beautiful
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guys ever played with. Jim Tommy.
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Yeah. This is my first year in
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Cleveland. This is my rookie year in
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Cleveland. If we want to focus on rookie
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years, Jim, Baby Huey, the guy's got ankles for wrist.
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You know, that was back the steroid era.
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Jim was absolutely naughty. Steroid guy was just country
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bucking strong and it's August dog days.
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We're all dragging ass. And you know, I was, I was a
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guy, you know, I did. I've had to keep it with the
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Joneses. I'm not going to walk into a
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knife gunfight with a knife. So it was me, Jim, Tommy, Travis
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Fryman and Russell Brandian in the the clubhouse in Cleveland
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in dog days. We're all dragging asses, you
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know, 101 degrees every freaking day and walk up on a
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conversation where Travis Fryman is talking to Jim about creatine
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chips like 3132 had never heard about creatine.
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Like Jimmy, you've been in the big league for 10 years.
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You know what creatine is. All right, Jimmy, whatever.
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And so they're sitting there listening to Travis.
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He was something a guy, but he was and Travis is not a steroid
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guy either. Was Brandon just was just clear
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the air on that. Listen to Travis tell Jim about
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creating. He was like a 13 year old boy
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hearing about sex for the first time.
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I mean, Jim was like, Oh yeah, I need I need some of that.
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Oh yeah, they're like, hey, don't do this, don't do that.
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And he was like, yeah, but I need some.
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I need some of that. Yeah, go do some.
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I'm just some of that. Travis finishes off his
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instruction with Jim. Make sure if you take creating
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Jim, make sure you hydrate. I shit you not, Jim's next time
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was where can I get some of that hydrate at?
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Oh no. That was Jimmy's comment.
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We all believe he does with just got to walk away like that's
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enough. Too, you know some of.
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Those guys in a country. Strong, though, you have to give
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me credit, right? Hold on John, move back to your
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left because you're cutting your half yourself off there.
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So they want they want to see your beautiful mug.
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Yeah. Why?
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But they don't look look real hard.
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It is interesting when you meet a country strong athlete.
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You know, there was a couple of guys, I remember I was, I was a
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government contractor at one point and there's a couple of
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guys that you could just see. These guys were burly from the
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get go. They probably came out like a 12
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LB baby, you know what I mean? They were just burly.
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They didn't. Need a lot of help in the 4th
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grade. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, I used everything, of course, always.
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I used every performance enhancing drug I could get my
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hands on. They did a bunch of.
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Look how well. They worked for you.
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You. Know.
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Yeah, look what it did for my hand.
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Yeah, you used to be endorsed, should be endorsing Winstrol on
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your show here. Exactly.
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Maybe some anavar, some deca, you know, go go, Maybe, maybe.
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A What's the worst thing now? Stack.
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You know the worst thing now I turned 51 in a month, which is,
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which is depressing, you know? So yeah, I tell people now I've
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got to take the the TRT just stop for replacement therapy,
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yada yada, a 34 year old girlfriend and yeah, she's not
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going to have any, any slip UPS in in in a certain room of the
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house. Hopefully, hopefully you're,
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you're bringing the game there. Yeah, so now I say I used to
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take steroids so I can play better.
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Now I think just so I can get a boner.
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That's that's why I take them just like just so I can.
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Get a boner. Well, it's still performance
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enhancing. It's just a different kind of
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performance. John, we don't, we don't want
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you. We don't want your reputation to
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be ruined in the city. What did it?
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What did it give me to sypenate? And, and in fact, good because
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she's more forgiving than commissioner is because she
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doesn't drug test me or anything.
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So yeah, of. Course I like to.
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Say no, But this is all me. This is all me you.
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Don't have to carry around any fake urine with you, so maybe
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just in case you have to. Yeah, or, or, or drink tons of
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apple cider vinegar. Like the day of or any other
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test. You have to choke.
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Choke. You have some apple cider
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vinegar, which tastes disgusting, by the way.
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It's awful. Yeah, yeah.
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What did? It's fine.
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What did it give? You you cipinate.
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I I I switched back more cipinate and I think.
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I want to give you both. What do you think?
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How many makes a week? Back and forth what 1 milligram
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a week, 250? Yeah.
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Yeah, it gives you back your energy and everything too.
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It's not, I mean. Oh it definitely does it letting
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you pencil for sure. Yeah, my, my wife is an IFBB
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bikini competitor, pro pro. And you know, of course the the
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performance enhanced drugs are still pretty prevalent in all
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divisions. Is he?
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Is he currently active? Yeah, she is.
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She's actually, she's got a show coming up, I think in another 60
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or 90 days. But.
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She's she's going to be doing probably at this point Masters,
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although she competes and opens, she's taking some seconds.
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She's just never taken a first which you need the 1st to get to
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the Olympia, but she's got a pretty.
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I've been all I I dated a girl named Alicia Marie for about
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three 3 1/2 years, black girl and for four years the media
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said it was a publicity stunt. She, she actually lived, lived
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in New York. She lived at night, Chelsea.
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That's a long publicity run for you, yeah.
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So I kept saying, yeah, this is this is a, you know, a hell of
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an effort just trying to fool you fucking clowns.
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But if she she got her pro card at at the Arnold I think where
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she got her pro card. Yeah, that's a tough, that's a
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tough show. The Arnold's no joke.
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You really? Yeah, she got her card, you
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know, but that's, that's a hard life.
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I'll say hard life, but you know, a lot of these a lot of
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these folks though that you know own in season offseason and
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they'll blow a whole bit, you know, gain 1015 lbs during the
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winter. I mean she's stuck to her diet
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24/7 365. I mean you can really pressing
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on the side of 11 Aldens and like how do you do this shit
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too? But.
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I want to tell you something. It's really like that.
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And the problem is the science is also constantly changing.
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I remember when creatine first came out and that was a game
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changer. Of course there was Andrew
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Stenodine and there was lots of other products out there that
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different people use that, you know, and then of course, and
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they put a ban on it and it was growth hormone.
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But it's interesting how the technology has changed so much.
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The peptides now have taken a key position.
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Along that, have you ever have you ever tried tharms?
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You know, I haven't, but I've tried some other ones.
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I've got a bad shoulder. I what?
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Is it? What's it called?
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Tharms. Self anded and regulating
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modulators. I don't exactly actually though
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what the hell that means. But when I was training for that
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celebrity fight, that non fight with Pat Mahone senior my I got
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a dear friend of mine Atlanta that owns 5 rejuvenation clinics
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and he hooked me up. He said about a $5000 care
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package of just any things you want and there was 5 sarms in
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there. I mean an anabolic without the
00:17:08
side effects and come on getting your ass shredded holy shit.
00:17:12
I was down about maybe 8% body fat and it's.
00:17:15
And it's really unbelievable really at the end of the day how
00:17:19
the industry's constantly changes.
00:17:21
Even now. I saw another one of peptide the
00:17:23
other, I think it's NA 931. It was yeah.
00:17:28
The the now they're blending them, you know, where they can
00:17:30
actually get muscle gain. You don't lose, you can lose
00:17:33
fat, you know, so the science is constantly transitioning and
00:17:36
that's tough enough to keep on top of it.
00:17:38
But I want to talk about the 99 season you you racked up I think
00:17:41
38 saves and of course the. Brace Storm the World Series man
00:17:46
playoffs saves out. Well, it was, it was a big year
00:17:52
for you, of course. Did you have a, let me ask you,
00:17:54
a lot of guys, dude, did you have a pregame ritual at all?
00:17:57
Anything that you used to do or anything that you had that maybe
00:17:59
you were a little superstitious. Same pair of socks or I had to
00:18:03
eat 4 Nutter butters in the first inning and a banana in the
00:18:06
fifth. There we go.
00:18:08
And we didn't have Nutter Butters at the clubhouse.
00:18:10
One of the clubies was going to the store and get me some Nutter
00:18:12
Butters and I'll pay you 50 bucks and get me 4 packs of
00:18:15
Nutter Butters. One pack for every day, every
00:18:17
every day in the six. And that was the trick.
00:18:19
What was the fun? Did you have anybody that did a
00:18:21
pre game ritual? What was the craziest pre game
00:18:24
ritual that you became aware of? Anything.
00:18:27
Nothing 2 nuts. Yeah, that nothing, nothing that
00:18:32
would live is like, like show worthy.
00:18:33
Like, what the Hell's that guy thinking?
00:18:36
Yeah, I remember it was a Turk Wendell.
00:18:37
He used to leap over the over the baseline on his way to and
00:18:41
from the dugout that was, you know, live, you know, nothing
00:18:45
really comes, you know, of course, guys doing ridiculous
00:18:49
shit on a daily basis. But something.
00:18:51
Well, all right, this, this, I don't know if this I guess we'll
00:18:54
call for pregame ritual. Then we spoke off off air.
00:18:59
My, my podcast, the uncased John Walker podcast.
00:19:03
We're in our 6th episode and I'm I'm filming again this week.
00:19:05
We always shoot about four or five shows at a time.
00:19:07
I'm filming again this week with Pete Rose Junior.
00:19:10
I've known Pete for 20 plus years and I played with Pete
00:19:17
once, one of all Puerto Rico and once when I was rehabbing my
00:19:19
busted shoulder for the Long Island ducks down centralized.
00:19:24
It was like 213 off the off the LIE.
00:19:27
Yeah. So anyway, so we had a a female
00:19:30
trainer, her name was Dottie and we loved.
00:19:33
Again. And John, you're off to the side
00:19:34
there. OK, man, it's all right.
00:19:39
It's all good. So anyway, so I call it a
00:19:43
ritual. I'm not really sure, but he he
00:19:45
did it every day. And there's certain things that
00:19:47
you do that are funny. If you do them one time, it's
00:19:49
pretty fucking funny. If you do them every day, it
00:19:52
gets really, really funny. Like, like the, the redundancy
00:19:55
you see sometimes in Family Guy, the, the, the jokes the writers
00:19:58
write where it's just over and over and the more it's done, the
00:20:00
funnier it gets. So Pete Rose Junior, like I
00:20:04
said, we had a female trainer. Her name was Dottie.
00:20:06
Dottie was a bit heavy set and we used to fuck with Dottie
00:20:11
relentlessly. And this was a good sport.
00:20:13
We would fart on her, white boogers on her.
00:20:15
I mean, we just did what, what, what degenerate 30 year old ball
00:20:19
players do what we've been doing our whole lives.
00:20:21
You know you you when when you, you, you get in a pro ball. 18
00:20:25
years old. Great form of years 18 about 25.
00:20:28
And when you're being raised by a bunch of other type Aida
00:20:32
generous, you come out kind of fucked up when you're done
00:20:34
playing you just too. So anyway, so Pete Rose junior
00:20:38
was a huge, I'm assuming still this Star Wars thing.
00:20:42
And that was back when all that new new Star Wars trilogy stuff
00:20:45
was was coming out, you know, so he was back and then watching
00:20:47
Star Wars and all that. So he had a Darth Vader mask and
00:20:52
he would always be coming from for batting practice.
00:20:54
He would go shower after BP before the game every single
00:20:58
day. So the clubhouse is here,
00:21:00
shower's here, training room right in the middle with one big
00:21:03
like 8 foot wide doorways. Pete Junior does not have the
00:21:07
best body. In fact, his body's pretty bad.
00:21:10
Ginger freckles, little tuffs of red hair on his nipples and
00:21:14
whatnot. He would, he would put his Darth
00:21:16
Vader mask on. Do it one time.
00:21:19
It's funny. Well, that one time, but he did
00:21:21
this every single fucking day. His shower shoes would carry his
00:21:26
towel put his Darth Vader mask on what was little chubby body
00:21:31
pass Dottie in the training room turn to to to to to Dottie go
00:21:35
Dottie, I am your father. He pulled the shower, did it
00:21:41
every single day, just full. That's.
00:21:43
Bordering. On.
00:21:45
That is bordering on creepy. One time was funny, multiple
00:21:48
times might be creepy. But I would not be laughing
00:21:51
about it this much else He did like 100 straight days.
00:21:55
Yeah, that that makes it. Well, he was committed.
00:21:57
He was committed to the project. He was all the way in.
00:21:59
You can't blame him. Makes it legendary every day.
00:22:01
Hey what time is it? It must be 458.
00:22:05
He just gave Dottie full front of his Darth Vader mask on.
00:22:08
Yeah. Every day, same time.
00:22:11
And you guys are known for your pranks.
00:22:12
You know, of course, Major League sports in general,
00:22:15
everybody's got some of their go to pranks and some of your best.
00:22:18
What did you have a go to prank you used to do to people at all?
00:22:21
I mean a go to. Yeah, I was, I was a, especially
00:22:25
at Braves clubhouse, you know, was kind of young.
00:22:27
And you look around Hall of Famer, Hall of Famer, Hall of
00:22:29
Famer, Hall of Famer, you know, I was I wasn't quite, you know,
00:22:33
to the level like getting those guys singing those guys.
00:22:38
I'm trying to think, well, I will tell you he's on a prank.
00:22:40
This is this is kind of par for the course and and I'm sure
00:22:42
we'll get into politics here at some point.
00:22:44
And this is this is a little precursor of how much I fucking
00:22:47
hate liberals. So, you know, after all my SI
00:22:51
shit going on the road was fuck, I just a nightmare.
00:22:54
I mean it's. Just, well, let me stop you
00:22:55
there for a minute because the audience might not know.
00:22:57
So in 99, you had that. Well, it's become legendary now.
00:23:00
It's kind of, it was controversial and you you got
00:23:03
you faced massive boos. You even had to get an NYPD
00:23:07
escort, I think at Shea Stadium as I remember.
00:23:10
And that so for the audience, he did it had an interview where he
00:23:14
was really outspoken. He's the John Rocker you guys
00:23:16
know and love on social media. And a lot of people took it, you
00:23:20
know, and, and made all kinds of statements against you.
00:23:23
So take it from there, John. I just want to make sure the
00:23:25
audience knew about that, because they might, yeah.
00:23:26
So anyway, so this this goes on for years.
00:23:29
Every time I go on the road I'm just going to catch a load of
00:23:31
shit. Home games were were great, but
00:23:35
Rd. games were an absolute pain in the ass, especially when I go
00:23:38
to places, you know, liberal cities like New York, like
00:23:40
Baston, like Philly. So I was in Seattle.
00:23:43
I was in Seattle for this one specific incident.
00:23:46
We know how liberal you know Seattle's and how, how, how,
00:23:49
how, how tolerant of conservatives that the Seattle
00:23:53
folks are. So that was back when I guess
00:23:57
they're still doing it now. All these clowns that designed
00:23:59
the same, they're trying to make them so fan friendly.
00:24:01
They're doing everything but let the fans come in the fucking
00:24:03
clubhouse. And so in Seattle is conforce
00:24:08
where you got all the beer vendors and the food vendors and
00:24:10
all that. A chain link fence in my mound.
00:24:14
Like seriously, dude, like I can like like reach the fence and
00:24:16
just like poke you like why that doesn't seem good.
00:24:19
Why do you give these fucking animals this much access to, to,
00:24:23
you know, to, to tell us that we're, we're trying to work.
00:24:26
And so I'm sitting there for a good 2 1/2 hours just there's
00:24:29
about 3 or 4 deep of, of, of maybe a dozen guys that that did
00:24:34
not leave the entire game. They're just oh, I mean 2 1/2
00:24:38
hours this shift. I finally have enough.
00:24:41
I get up, I go to the the bathroom they have down there
00:24:45
forcing the bullpen take a piss in the toilet, get a cup, scoop
00:24:49
it out. Half float water.
00:24:51
Half pissed water fucking made them wear it.
00:24:55
Oh, real tough. You threw water on us.
00:24:57
You threw water on us. Not really.
00:24:59
You better check maybe you need to check Adna swab on that.
00:25:02
You took a little bit of John home with you that today, and I
00:25:05
don't blame you. Some of this behavior by and
00:25:08
we've seen it, you know, cross country on this show, like we
00:25:10
said earlier, we go after both sides of the aisle.
00:25:13
It it took a moment for me to get, I guess, weaponized in my
00:25:17
own way. I don't know if I was
00:25:18
radicalized. A lot of people said it's the
00:25:20
Charlie Kirk moment that did that.
00:25:21
But in 2011 you dropped your autobiography Scars and strikes
00:25:27
and and you were really outspoken in that and you just
00:25:29
said it like was was there something?
00:25:31
You know, I got to ask you this, John, because everybody has
00:25:33
George and I had our own moments.
00:25:34
Of course, there was many things, you know, 911 and other
00:25:37
things triggered me. I, I, I struggle with the dark
00:25:41
side. My problem is I start thinking
00:25:44
about the well meaning that because of my background,
00:25:48
sometimes I think the easiest solution for a lot of what's
00:25:50
going on in Washington DC would be a giant industrial wood
00:25:53
chipper. And I, I feel like sometimes we
00:25:59
candy ass what's going on there? And when you wrote scars and
00:26:02
strikes, was there something prior to that that politicized
00:26:04
you? Was it the that was it when you
00:26:06
when you got attacked for the Sports Illustrated cover?
00:26:09
Was it because you grew up in a very political family maybe or a
00:26:12
very patriotic family? You know what, what kind of
00:26:15
brought you kind of that thought process?
00:26:19
The article is what is what created the reason for that
00:26:23
book. I think I have a line.
00:26:26
Again, I have not read that book probably since I've finished it,
00:26:29
but I had a line in the book. There's a cliche.
00:26:33
Don't ever. Sorry, my bad.
00:26:36
Don't. Don't ever pick a fight with
00:26:39
someone who buys 8 by the truck. Look, and I have a quote in
00:26:42
there. Well, I decided to buy my own
00:26:43
truck. So I want to write that book as
00:26:45
kind of a counterbalance, a fight back against, you know,
00:26:49
against all, all of the propaganda that had been letting
00:26:52
against me for below those many years, about 10 years at that
00:26:55
point. And, and yeah, I wanted the,
00:26:58
the, you know, that that article written by that power suck of
00:27:01
shit, Jeff Pearlman, which if you, if you look at his history,
00:27:04
everything the guy writes is motherfuking somebody.
00:27:08
He, he wrote a book about Walter Payton after Walter was dead.
00:27:12
The whole book is motherfucking about his drug usage, his
00:27:17
infidelity, his bastard kids. I mean, all like after the guy's
00:27:20
dead, you shit me and to, to, to, to trash a, you know, a
00:27:25
national icon like Walter Payton.
00:27:27
I mean, he wrote a book about the, the 1986 Amazing Mets.
00:27:30
What angle do you think he took all our transgressions and
00:27:34
etcetera, etcetera. I mean, the the guys just
00:27:36
absolutely. They're asking you in the chat,
00:27:39
what's the book's name? You guys are talking book.
00:27:43
Stars and strikes George. Stars and strikes the cover
00:27:46
George. If you grab it, throw the cover
00:27:48
up for the audience so they can see it.
00:27:50
Yeah. So go ahead, John.
00:27:51
I mean, he cut you off there, so go ahead.
00:27:53
So you're right. I mean, he did write a a bunch
00:27:55
of motherfucking. Well, the the the.
00:27:57
Nothing like taking a shot at somebody that's dead, that can't
00:27:59
defend himself, right? I mean, that's.
00:28:01
Just just just just coward, honestly, just unnecessary.
00:28:04
Like what? What are you fucking trying to
00:28:05
prove here? You know, I could go on and on
00:28:08
because I, I've been given a ear full of dirt, this guy over the
00:28:12
years about just what a piece of shit he is.
00:28:15
But never let's, let's cut that, you know, cut that short.
00:28:17
So the way the interview happened, the interview occurred
00:28:20
over an entire day. It was like an 8910 hour
00:28:22
interview. I love talking politics.
00:28:25
I was only 24 years old at the time and did not get the memo.
00:28:29
As a conservative, do not talk. Were you always Did you come
00:28:32
from a political family? Was your?
00:28:33
Was your? Were your.
00:28:34
Parents political, but yeah. But one of the reasons why I did
00:28:36
go to college for a couple of quarters during the offseason,
00:28:40
university, university and I was I was going to be a poli sci
00:28:43
major. I major in political science.
00:28:46
Yeah, that's what I took in college.
00:28:48
Political science major. Yeah, it's.
00:28:51
We just lost them. He was touching back here.
00:28:57
He was touching his phone, his phone using his camera.
00:28:59
He probably hit off. I already know.
00:29:02
It happens sometimes. We'll get him back here in a
00:29:03
minute. I want to talk John when he
00:29:05
comes, George, when he comes back.
00:29:06
We'll bring up his stint on Survivor with his girlfriend.
00:29:11
Was he, Was he ever married? You know, I don't know.
00:29:14
We'll, we'll ask him that when he comes back.
00:29:15
I don't really know, but he had a a really attractive girlfriend
00:29:18
named Julie McGee and he you. Know what, Lance?
00:29:21
Let's go to break. We were at the mark anyway.
00:29:22
Let's go to break. Yeah.
00:29:23
We'll take a break while he's coming back in all.
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John, I've been waiting to ask this question because I think
00:34:33
there's and I'm trying to I'm I can I picture in my mind you got
00:34:38
you the MLB made you do some sensitivity training or classes.
00:34:43
You want to hear your isn't hear about that, huh?
00:34:45
I want to hear about that. I want you to tell us, but then
00:34:47
I have a question to ask or something, so yeah, please tell.
00:34:51
I got to hear about this because I I.
00:34:52
Can't oxy moron sensitivity training for John Rogers?
00:34:56
I can't see you in moron. I can't see you in sensitivity
00:34:58
training, but you know. This this story's going to take
00:35:01
about 45 seconds, which will be 15 seconds longer than I was in
00:35:05
sensitivity training. So anyway.
00:35:11
Plus, it's nuts, the old, the Oldstein Commissioner, Bud Selig
00:35:16
clown, by the way, absolute utter clown.
00:35:20
Yeah, we, we, we think, we think today's commissioner's a clown,
00:35:23
which he is. But yeah, Selig Selig, you know,
00:35:25
definitely shown the ropes of how to be a fucking Dick Head of
00:35:28
the Commissioner's Office. So, yeah, my, my, my punishment
00:35:32
levied for speaking my mind with MLB was a A2 week suspension, 14
00:35:37
inch suspension. I think it was like A50.
00:35:42
No, they, they, they tried to levy a $50 fine.
00:35:46
The association got 11. I got it reduced to 5000, which
00:35:51
I didn't pay $1.00 for that fine.
00:35:53
And then it was X amount of hours of sensitivity training.
00:35:57
So I still, I can take you right where the office is today around
00:36:00
Cheshire Bridge Rd. Cheshire Bridge and Lennox Road
00:36:02
right there in Bucket, Atlanta. I walk into some, you know, some
00:36:08
sweater wearing, you know, palm pedaled hand.
00:36:13
I'm not going to say all the words I'd like to pussy.
00:36:16
Did he have a. Sweaty handshake Did he have a
00:36:18
sweaty? Yeah, yeah.
00:36:19
And, you know, dad bod and the the perfectly groomed little
00:36:23
little beard and the like, you should have been part of the Bee
00:36:25
Gees, but it's 30 years after the Bee Gees.
00:36:28
So what are you doing dressed like that?
00:36:30
You're like a fucking idiot. So I walk in there and, you
00:36:33
know, they always try to, like, buddy up and get you started.
00:36:35
He's feeling comfortable. He's like, you know, John, I
00:36:38
don't, I don't, I don't really see any reason why you should be
00:36:40
here. Oh, yeah.
00:36:42
Then I'm leaving. Got up, walked out.
00:36:46
So after. But you're saying as well, like,
00:36:49
I don't really. I don't really think you belong
00:36:51
to your job like you know, do you do?
00:36:53
You think I. Think so?
00:36:54
Hold on. Let me let me just chill for a
00:36:56
second. So you weren't married at the
00:36:58
time, unfortunately, but you should have really got some.
00:37:02
Any girl, any broad, whatever, pick one, put a ring on her
00:37:04
finger and tell her she should have sued the MLB saying, yo, I
00:37:09
didn't, I didn't marry no be engaged with no soy boy.
00:37:12
You're turning him into a soy boy with this sensitivity crap.
00:37:15
That would have been a great lawsuit.
00:37:17
You think so? That what turned out for me
00:37:19
wouldn't have been great. You know you.
00:37:22
Could have, you could have shoot him too, he said.
00:37:23
Look, I'm married. I.
00:37:24
Can get married now, talk a bunch of shit.
00:37:26
We can. I can try it when I'm 50.
00:37:29
Listen. Listen, if they can change, if
00:37:32
they can change the statutes on Donald Trump, maybe you can
00:37:35
still open that back up. You can open a case back up if
00:37:37
they'll change the laws for you on the bill.
00:37:39
There you go. Seems to be standard operating
00:37:41
procedure. George, I might get you some
00:37:42
sensitivity training. I don't know.
00:37:43
I'm thinking about it. Maybe somebody hook us up.
00:37:46
He's got to connect in the sensitive.
00:37:47
If anybody needs sensitivity training, I think it's.
00:37:50
You Yeah, it's not here, here. Here's what a what a what a sack
00:37:53
of shit. Just crawl under his desk, hide,
00:37:57
bite his lip because he knows what's going on is good for the
00:37:59
game, even though it's I want to say morally, ethically, maybe
00:38:05
something not right about all the PEDs back in the day.
00:38:08
And I have heard guys like Rod crew and George Brett and those
00:38:11
guys, I've heard them verbatim say no PED guy will ever be in
00:38:14
my Hall of Fame. I heard Rod crew say that like
00:38:17
clear as bell like so they're all people that didn't like it.
00:38:20
Was it was it good for the game? Was it more entertaining?
00:38:23
And then people I was I've said that for years.
00:38:26
Maisley baseball was more entertaining when you got Mark
00:38:30
McGuire hitting 70 hold on and battling Sammy Slosen that yes,
00:38:35
he's painting himself. You have 40 just over
00:38:38
batting practice to watch McGuire.
00:38:39
You know, hit him on the roof and hit the freaking big
00:38:42
Chick-fil-A chicken out in the in the left field.
00:38:44
Everybody wants everybody wants to see that at the end of the
00:38:47
day. I've always thought that the you
00:38:51
know, when you think about professional sports and I don't
00:38:53
care what professional sport we're talking about, even
00:38:56
performance enhancing. I think it's part of the
00:38:58
industry even in special forces government contract and we all
00:39:02
use performance enhancing because at the end of the day,
00:39:06
yeah. And so.
00:39:08
If it's available to everybody and they can get it.
00:39:10
So it's really not and. It's only cheap if you win,
00:39:13
otherwise you're trying to feel better about yourself.
00:39:15
But anyway, so let's get back to the point I'm trying to make.
00:39:17
See, look here. So you know, back back in the
00:39:21
day collected the collective bargain agreement.
00:39:23
They could not test us for any drug whatsoever.
00:39:25
Not cocaine, not marijuana, not anything unless we had an off
00:39:28
field, you know, incident. I had an off field incidents.
00:39:31
You could not test me. Bud sends down in January for me
00:39:36
to take a test for steroids and I'm like, OK, I'm not doing that
00:39:39
shit. My eating is like, they're
00:39:40
pretty pissed at you. I'd go ahead and take the test.
00:39:43
Failed miserably. Did you ever hear anything from
00:39:48
Bud Selig about I failed my test but I failed my test and maybe
00:39:52
we should be testing the whole league and push for that the
00:39:54
next CBA? Absolutely not.
00:39:57
And of course. He's he's not Mr. Candidate by
00:40:02
any fucking means, but he's not done over the thing we caught
00:40:05
the one we got, we got, we got, we got the guys think stairways
00:40:08
in the big leagues. He sees what's going on.
00:40:11
He knows half a league is on it, but he sure as hell didn't let
00:40:14
it get out that I was taking it because that the can of worms
00:40:18
that would open now. So he sat on it, knowing,
00:40:21
knowing the whole time exactly what's going on.
00:40:23
Don't you think the testing is kind of a weapon that the, you
00:40:27
know, the pros use against players?
00:40:31
Sometimes it's not disclosed even when they get caught, but
00:40:33
they use it to hang it over their head with the threat of
00:40:36
well, you know, I could end your career because you know about
00:40:37
your testing that didn't. Work that and, and get contract
00:40:40
stuff too. You know, they, they use to hang
00:40:42
on their head about, you know, maybe I, I get a $5
00:40:45
discount next time. This guy's contracts too.
00:40:47
But you know, the, the, the whole thing and, and the, you
00:40:51
know, the, the folks out there with drinking problems and drug
00:40:54
problems and all that, they were creating a huge stigma.
00:40:57
Oh my God I can't believe the athletes throw steroids as I do
00:41:01
my line of blow. You know you self-righteous pile
00:41:04
of shit. You know, he'll be doing it for
00:41:07
for for PR reasons that they call such Flack, such backlash
00:41:11
over the PR of this, you know, America's pastime, grandma apple
00:41:15
pie and baseball. It was this pure institution of
00:41:18
Major League Baseball. We can't believe this is going
00:41:20
on. See, it was, it was a, it was
00:41:23
APR, you know, definitely a definitely PR.
00:41:26
You know, when I see news get weaponized against, it doesn't
00:41:29
matter whether it's a player, it's on social media or it's
00:41:32
some somebody that's on the political spectrum.
00:41:35
You know, we always talk about how quickly it can turn on you.
00:41:37
You know, we know the operation runs, you know, deep within the
00:41:41
narrative, right? They want to control the
00:41:42
narrative. If they're going to control John
00:41:44
Rocker, they want to control George Ballantine, they want to
00:41:47
control Donald Trump. It doesn't matter who it is, the
00:41:50
system is really sophisticated. And for people out there that
00:41:53
haven't dealt with it, now you've doubled down.
00:41:56
First of all, not only have you been incredibly outspoken on
00:41:59
social media, but now you've decided to pick up the podcast
00:42:03
Microphone. I watched a couple of your
00:42:04
episodes. You know what I'm getting.
00:42:07
Better. I'm getting better.
00:42:08
No, you are. You're doing great.
00:42:10
I actually saw your one with the I'm watching on.
00:42:12
Podcast I'm like. Practice makes perfect, John.
00:42:14
We're all like. That I never off my guess too
00:42:16
much. I'm getting better.
00:42:18
I'm I know know some adjustment. No, I'm always chewing gum upon
00:42:22
not chewing gum anymore and mumbling on on on on 4 sticks of
00:42:26
gum. So I'm I'm making some
00:42:27
adjustments. I'm getting better.
00:42:29
Who's running your production for you?
00:42:33
Long well, it's it's it's Sandlot media is this company.
00:42:37
I'm, I'm also a part of so great, great team, man for
00:42:40
absolutely fantastic team. Wait, who is it for?
00:42:44
Sandlot Media. Sandlot media and you're only.
00:42:47
Only run three shows right now. No, but I think it's great.
00:42:51
I I actually think you're doing a really good job.
00:42:52
I think it's a real comfortable environment you kind of created
00:42:55
there. I watched one of your interviews
00:42:57
with the Navy SEAL. We do a lot of Special Forces
00:42:59
guys because of my Yeah. So we've had quite a few of them
00:43:03
on. And of course, it's really
00:43:04
engaging. It's kind of a playbook.
00:43:05
We we run our playbook out of like Joe Rogan, Shawn Ryan, kind
00:43:09
of that style is what we try to do on this show because we do a
00:43:12
lot of variety. We do musicians and we do MMA
00:43:15
and we do Special Forces. But what made you decide you
00:43:19
weren't you? You Because I've watched you on
00:43:21
social media for a long time. I followed you for a long time.
00:43:23
I like your post. I like when you go all in on
00:43:25
people. What made you decide to pick up
00:43:29
the microphone now? Was it just you finally said
00:43:32
enough of this bullshit? Yeah, I've, I've wanted to do a
00:43:34
podcast for years. I've had a conversation with,
00:43:37
with various production, you know, companies around the,
00:43:41
well, rather SE mainly. And it was just just never the
00:43:43
right fit, just just kind of small, kind of chintzy.
00:43:45
And, and this, this, this production company is a young
00:43:48
company, but everybody involved has got, you know, they, they,
00:43:52
they, they, and they spun away from what they were doing
00:43:54
previously to form this company. The company is young, but
00:43:57
everyone is very experienced. And that's great.
00:44:00
You know, our, our, you know, the, the, the, the camera crew,
00:44:05
if you really actual producers that are, that are, that are
00:44:07
entity and set everything up, they, they, they've won I think
00:44:10
4 Emmys in podcast production. I mean, they're there.
00:44:13
That's quite, quite substantial. Yeah, that's great.
00:44:16
The Western members of the company, there's pretty much
00:44:18
nobody as far as interview wise that we can't get to.
00:44:22
I mean, this this weekend I'm going to Athens to, to interview
00:44:26
Cole Swindell. If you guys are country fans,
00:44:28
Cole Swindell, AJ Styles, Pete Rose Junior and Rick Ankiel.
00:44:34
That's a great lineup. The first interview I ever show
00:44:38
I ever did was with John Rich and Big and Rich.
00:44:42
Yeah. And.
00:44:42
And one of the girls that works for us, actually.
00:44:45
Her name is Tiffany Savage. She ran Donald Trump's Georgia
00:44:49
campaign, ran his campaign. I.
00:44:51
Know savvy, I'm friends with her.
00:44:52
Oh. You do.
00:44:53
OK, so we'll we'll at some point, you know, probably get
00:44:55
Don Junior on, but but everybody kind of brings their own, their
00:44:59
own niche and can make one, if not 2 phone calls and get
00:45:03
whomever on the show. So yeah, where do they?
00:45:06
Where do you? Know savvy really well?
00:45:07
Hold on. I just met her for the first
00:45:10
time about maybe six months ago, someone said.
00:45:12
I know her really well, but sweet she can be.
00:45:14
I like her a lot. She's great.
00:45:15
I. Was going to, I was going to
00:45:16
text her right now, so I got John on, he says hello.
00:45:19
OK, great. I'm here this weekend.
00:45:21
Yeah. So John, where do they just for
00:45:23
the audience right now before we dig in the rest of the way here,
00:45:26
where do they find on Cage? So you're on YouTube and where
00:45:28
else are you right now? YouTube, Spotify, Apple, I know
00:45:34
those 3 for sure. They've told me a couple other
00:45:36
ones but I usually just just watch it for my.
00:45:39
No Rumble yet, huh? You're not on Rumble yet?
00:45:40
You're not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not big time.
00:45:42
I'm still like a ball. Just like a ball.
00:45:44
You guys are. You guys are like, you know, 3-4
00:45:46
year big league veterans. I'm still just a balling.
00:45:49
No, but I'll, I'll tell you something to watch.
00:45:51
It over there on YouTube and I'll tell Asia.
00:45:54
Yeah, I did a Tim full show. I don't know if not not to not
00:45:59
to plug another show on your show, but I didn't tend to no
00:46:02
plug. Away we, we, we're supporters.
00:46:04
We. About not the hater crew here.
00:46:06
Just because somebody watches Tim Poole doesn't mean they
00:46:08
don't watch us just because. And at the end of the day, I
00:46:10
want you to plug your show. It's part of it because we want
00:46:13
to help you grow. Because the more of us out there
00:46:15
that are fighting the good fight, the better it's going to
00:46:18
because, of course, educating and unifying the country.
00:46:20
Well, I will. I will say at some point, maybe
00:46:23
it's time to stop fighting a good fight with this and start
00:46:27
fighting with this. It's going to have to happen,
00:46:29
man. Running our fucking mouths
00:46:31
clearly is not enough. I mean, these, these fucking
00:46:34
freak fucking liberals, they're willing to go out and surround,
00:46:39
harass, get physically violent with people at Trump rallies and
00:46:43
wherever. They're going to burn down
00:46:45
police stations, burn out police cars, take shots at Trump, kill
00:46:48
Charlie Kirk, and all we do is go on a podcast and fucking yap
00:46:51
about it. At some point in time we got to
00:46:54
step out in the street. I, I've got to tell you that,
00:46:56
that George has to restrict me a lot of times.
00:46:59
I, I'm probably wants to take it into that arena.
00:47:05
I try to, I try to modify my talk because at the end of the
00:47:08
day, like I told you earlier, I struggle with a dark side,
00:47:11
meaning that I always believe that actions speak louder than
00:47:15
words. I'm with you.
00:47:16
It's it's hard for me. I have to restrain because of
00:47:18
course that's the next thing they do.
00:47:20
That's how they get us banned and permanently suspended.
00:47:23
I was pretty outspoken on X got suspended under the Jack Dorsey
00:47:28
reign of terror. I've never gotten the momentum
00:47:30
back. And I think there's still
00:47:31
restrictions on my account that nobody wants to acknowledge.
00:47:34
You know, I've got my personal account.
00:47:35
I've got about, I don't know what the two accounts are
00:47:37
probably 400 and some odd thousand.
00:47:39
And George never got his account back.
00:47:41
George, how many death threats do you think we've had in the
00:47:43
last 12 months? In our DMS?
00:47:46
In an e-mail? Otherwise, what do you?
00:47:47
Think I don't know dude. I stopped counting, but you know
00:47:49
John. Probably 20-30 death threats.
00:47:52
I I feel there's a violence threats.
00:47:53
I always welcome him. I tell look, anytime you want to
00:47:56
come up and you want to step up, I'm here.
00:47:58
There's only two things standing between you and me, fear and
00:48:00
atmosphere and. When it when it comes to like
00:48:04
with Kirk, yeah, I'm, I understand where you're coming
00:48:07
from, even Lance. But for a person like me, I
00:48:12
don't say it. I won't say it on any social
00:48:15
media or anything. You just got to be able to
00:48:21
handle it. Do it, go out and do it and just
00:48:23
handle it. Handle your business.
00:48:24
You know what I mean? That won't.
00:48:26
Step up. I actually tried to fight.
00:48:28
I don't know if you know that Jackass Brooklyn dad dude, he's
00:48:32
gay. He's faking gay, why would you
00:48:35
even think he would? Doesn't matter, I'd still like
00:48:36
to knock him the fuck out for the way.
00:48:38
He's right here in Brooklyn. He's by me.
00:48:39
You want me to go get him? I.
00:48:40
I offered many times to fight him in the cage I also went
00:48:43
after. I live in North New Jersey, 10
00:48:46
minutes from the. City John, Who's that?
00:48:47
Who's the actor? George.
00:48:49
But they now he's kind of flipped the script.
00:48:50
The guy that had the big mouth, I was talking about Israel.
00:48:53
I offered to fight him too. He wouldn't do it.
00:48:55
I offered. I put a big mouth.
00:48:55
You'll be more specific on that. So here's what I I pulled a
00:49:00
clip. We're talking about the insanity
00:49:02
on the left. You, you bring up a valid point.
00:49:05
I think there's a mental health crisis in the United States.
00:49:08
Here's a clip I grabbed this morning.
00:49:10
Let's throw it up. George.
00:49:12
I don't even understand what's going on here.
00:49:14
Honestly, this is beyond me. And you, you know, listen, you,
00:49:17
you grew up, you were young guy in the same period as us.
00:49:19
I just didn't see all these transgender fucking psychos.
00:49:23
I didn't see this crazy. They were there.
00:49:25
And it's not just not like the, the, the champion of like this
00:49:29
is the next frontier that liberals have to conquer.
00:49:31
It was, you know, the, the, the fight for the gays and gay
00:49:34
marriage, you know, 15 years ago.
00:49:35
Now. Let's move on to the next, you
00:49:37
know, Yeah, Weird, bizarre way out in the left field of the
00:49:42
social norm. Let's try to make that normal
00:49:44
now. I mean, you, you think that
00:49:45
there there can't be more than what, half a million?
00:49:49
Tops. Transvestites in the in the in
00:49:52
this country. There's a.
00:49:53
Number is so small, but we've given him a platform, haven't
00:49:57
we? Hasn't TikTok given?
00:49:58
And I hate TikTok. Let me be clear, I hate it.
00:50:01
I think at the end of the day. Actually, you know what, there's
00:50:03
a deal they they made, they're going to announce it Friday.
00:50:06
They just didn't talked about it today.
00:50:08
Trump and them they actually there's some the deals in the
00:50:11
works is pretty much going to be finalized.
00:50:12
They're going to talk, they're going to share it on Friday.
00:50:16
What? What's the deal, George?
00:50:17
They didn't. They were excited.
00:50:19
Well, let let's hope so. I'm going to tell you this.
00:50:21
I don't like the stuff that's on TikTok.
00:50:23
I think it's accp run platform that was meant to undermine the
00:50:27
youth in America. I think they've done an amazing
00:50:29
job because when you look at TikTok in China, the platform is
00:50:32
completely different. You don't see this kind of
00:50:34
garbage on there. But on our end, we promote this
00:50:36
garbage. Let's throw this clip up.
00:50:37
Here's another TikTok insane person.
00:50:40
I don't even know what this person is.
00:50:41
Saying I don't know if this is real, but.
00:50:46
Slam everyone. I just got to ask who's
00:50:49
cosplaying? See, cosplaying is when you
00:50:51
dress up as something that you aren't or someone you aren't.
00:50:54
I am a Muslim woman. I wear what a Muslim woman
00:51:00
wears. I dress like that.
00:51:02
So who's cosplaying here? I think you need to learn the
00:51:07
words that you're trying to use because they ain't working for
00:51:10
you. Hey I'm working.
00:51:16
For you she has. She has an Adam's album as big
00:51:19
as her balls. Yeah, I just, again, not knowing
00:51:23
a lot about the Middle East, having spent time there, I, I
00:51:25
don't think that this person, this guy would be embraced by
00:51:30
the Muslims anywhere. I I personally believe he'd be.
00:51:33
Beating his dance, probably that's why.
00:51:35
Yeah, I mean, and John, you, you reacted to a lot of stuff.
00:51:38
Charlie Kirk is obviously the big news.
00:51:40
And I, I reacted the same way you did.
00:51:42
First, I was shocked when George texted me.
00:51:44
I wasn't online at the moment. He said Charlie Kirk was shot.
00:51:47
I was hoping it was going to be, you know, it was going to be a
00:51:49
shot he would recover from. The minute I saw the video,
00:51:52
having seen some injuries like that when I was a government
00:51:55
contractor, I felt like it was probably not going to end well
00:52:00
for him. Of course it didn't, but you,
00:52:02
you went into OverDrive. You had some post code seriously
00:52:05
viral, but you were right. You came out and said this is
00:52:08
just crazy. Let's talk about that a little
00:52:09
bit, kind of what your reaction was when you heard it.
00:52:12
And of course, what you felt like the left because there were
00:52:15
people just celebrating. And I, it made me so angry that
00:52:18
I actually had to disengage from social media because I was ready
00:52:21
to just start telling everybody I was, you know, come and see
00:52:24
me. I'll take care of you.
00:52:24
You won't have to worry about it.
00:52:26
We'll put an end to what you're thinking right now.
00:52:27
And I had to just stop, so go ahead from there.
00:52:30
Yeah, it made me extremely angry.
00:52:35
You know, I've said for for years, guys, I don't even know
00:52:39
where to start conversation. You know, liberals always talk
00:52:45
about their, the party of inclusion, their, you know,
00:52:48
inclusion for the weirdos, the freaks, the, the, the, the, the
00:52:52
fringe, all the, all the fringe thinkers, the, the normal folks
00:52:55
that have nine to five jobs and families.
00:52:57
And we, that, that is not our ideology.
00:53:01
And there's no place for us in the, in the Democratic Party.
00:53:05
There's no place for us in that liberal mind thing.
00:53:09
Liberals, you know what, what was it?
00:53:11
You know, Biden over and over and over again, the most
00:53:13
dangerous group to American democracy is MAGA supporters.
00:53:18
Are you shitting me? It was not a Magnus supporter
00:53:22
that tried to shoot Donald Trump twice.
00:53:24
Not a Magnus supporter that killed Charlie Kurt was not a
00:53:26
Magnus supporter that had over 400 riots back in in in in 1920
00:53:31
and 2021. Burning police cars and police
00:53:36
stations, rioting, looting, murdering.
00:53:40
Those are, those are those are not Trump supporters.
00:53:42
The left is the group of violence.
00:53:45
Now, are they the group of violence because they just are
00:53:47
violent people, They're angry people.
00:53:49
Or are they the group of violence because they're paid,
00:53:52
the term paid agitators? I have fought for years and
00:53:55
years and years. I made some T-shirts and it's
00:53:58
got me sideways with the Atlanta Braves because they told me to
00:54:00
take them on my website. I told to go fucking # saying
00:54:04
this is liberal for pussies. I wear that shirt all the
00:54:08
fucking time. And keep in mind I'm 6, five,
00:54:10
£250. I'm still in pretty damn good
00:54:12
shape. I wear that shirt all the time
00:54:16
and just eyeball people. Who's going to say something?
00:54:17
Come on, fucking say something. And people rarely do.
00:54:20
I was in Washington DC about four years ago and toured all
00:54:24
the monuments and all that on a Friday afternoon.
00:54:26
Or my little shirt, pussy fucking T-shirt.
00:54:28
I had one person make a comment that was a jogger and they
00:54:31
picked up the pace once they fucked off.
00:54:34
So really? And you see some of these just,
00:54:37
I mean, a liberal has a look to it.
00:54:40
I mean, they're, they're, they're, they're generally out
00:54:42
of shape. They're generally pasted, have
00:54:43
some kind of fuck up haircut. You can tell growing up, they
00:54:47
were a fucking loser. They had no friends.
00:54:49
They were, they were an outcast socially.
00:54:53
And it's like these, these people like grow up and they
00:54:55
form their own group, you know, all the, the losers band
00:54:58
together to become liberals and they, they grow up angry, they
00:55:02
grow up fucking pissed off. They grow up on the lash out and
00:55:04
fight back and and they feel strong and bold in their groups.
00:55:10
Like when you see Antifa and they're throwing rocks at cars,
00:55:13
they're bashing Teslas and shit like that.
00:55:15
They feel emboldened because there's 20 or 30 of them, all
00:55:19
the games looking like that. Even the Crips, the blood,
00:55:21
they're all like that. You take them one-on-one, they
00:55:23
ain't shit. They'll do like that because
00:55:25
they got all their friends. With them all you know, they're,
00:55:27
they're, they're, they're, they're 45% body fat.
00:55:30
They're fat. They're unathletic.
00:55:32
The men throw like women. I would and and you know, are
00:55:35
they are they paid by George Soros or paid by some left wing
00:55:38
bank? Probably.
00:55:41
Let me ask you this, John. Do you think it's nature versus
00:55:44
nurture or do you think it's a combination thereof?
00:55:46
Because my opinion, when we grew up, everybody was in better
00:55:49
shape. Everybody wanted to be in good
00:55:51
shape. But I look at these kids now and
00:55:53
they just seem so weak and mealy, you know, They don't look
00:55:56
like they really want to do a day of working.
00:55:58
Out is like the cool thing though.
00:55:59
You know, and I think it's, I think it's a combination of the
00:56:02
food. I also wonder, you know, Alex
00:56:04
Jones has made some comments about what's in the water.
00:56:06
We've talked about what's happening.
00:56:08
We talked about the vaccines. It seems like these kids, I mean
00:56:11
they, they look like they start out of the gate.
00:56:13
Maybe we screwed up our testosterone taking steroids and
00:56:16
performance enhancing drugs, but it looked like they had no
00:56:18
testosterone to begin with. These guys look so fucked up.
00:56:22
Very, very effeminate. And you know, and here, here's
00:56:25
what I think stops this. And when I was on Tim Poole's
00:56:28
show, he's like, you say it on Rumble.
00:56:30
Don't say it on YouTube. They'll fucking ban my ass or at
00:56:33
least, or at least, you know, suspend me for a prolonged
00:56:35
period of time. I'll say you've got Soros and
00:56:38
he's paid 100 of these, you know of these these emasculate
00:56:42
individuals to go down and and and riot pick it, whatever pre
00:56:47
havoc at a Trump rally. Why aren't there 100 good old
00:56:51
boys in their fucking pickup trucks with shotgun shotgun
00:56:55
racks, you know, on the fucking back glass.
00:56:59
Meet him in the fucking St. And and just because because.
00:57:04
I'll tell you why. Because if you, if you, if you
00:57:07
have these stupid soy boys or facts, what do you want to call
00:57:09
them if they're there trying to protest, if you put
00:57:13
conservatives with blatantly showing their shotguns or guns
00:57:17
in. Their trunks?
00:57:17
No. Don't pull your gut out.
00:57:18
No, no. But I know, I know.
00:57:21
But doing that is just, you know, you don't have the median
00:57:24
everybody going to spin. But here's here's what stops it.
00:57:26
So when about half a dozen them, a dozen them go to the hospital,
00:57:31
they're there for about a week and a half.
00:57:32
A month later, you got Soros called up.
00:57:34
All right, Who wants to go to this rally, that Trump rally?
00:57:37
Who's going to have to get this run?
00:57:40
Yeah, well, I would, George, be the last time I got the shit out
00:57:43
of me. So I'm going to sit this one
00:57:45
out. I want to tell you.
00:57:47
Something is you beat the piss out enough of them, next
00:57:50
opportunity comes up. Yeah.
00:57:52
I'm for that. I'll probably sit this one.
00:57:54
Listen, I'm for that going and beating the piss out of them,
00:57:56
but just don't be showing the guns in the trucks they.
00:57:59
Don't let me. He was talking about it, I know,
00:58:01
but George, he was talking to that type of person.
00:58:03
And here's what I do agree with. I'm going to tell you something.
00:58:06
You saw them do it at the J6 Fed's direction.
00:58:09
They put fear in people so they couldn't peacefully protest,
00:58:11
right? Because they arrested, you know,
00:58:13
soccer moms and grandmothers and veterans, people that really
00:58:17
didn't participate. They, they created the event
00:58:19
that they use less lethal munitions to agitate the crowd.
00:58:23
They had lots of federal agents that were agitating the crowd,
00:58:26
pulling down barriers. They opened up the magnetic
00:58:28
doors. But they did that because they
00:58:30
wanted to make sure people weren't going to go to more
00:58:32
events and they and it, and it worked.
00:58:34
I agree with you. Here's the problem.
00:58:35
I voted for transparency, accountability and consequences.
00:58:39
I, I voted for the rule of law. And at the end of the day, when,
00:58:43
when you have a group like Soros using the Open Society
00:58:45
Foundation and all the other NGOs, he got literally 10s of
00:58:50
millions of dollars, maybe even hundreds from USAID.
00:58:53
That's the problem with what I call the deep state, and I
00:58:57
always, I don't always say it's the left.
00:58:58
I believe it's a more deep state organization.
00:59:00
I believe the government officials, politicians,
00:59:03
judiciary, these people are compromised.
00:59:06
They compromise them and then they manipulate them.
00:59:08
Sometimes they manipulate them through money, sometimes they
00:59:10
compromise them through an operation like Epstein.
00:59:13
Whatever it is, they do a very good job of it.
00:59:15
And people like Soros puts his money where his mouth is.
00:59:18
One of the things that I think is lacking on the right is that
00:59:20
we haven't. Seen that?
00:59:23
We don't have any capitalization, John, and you
00:59:25
probably probably know this from these shows.
00:59:27
They start out as a labor of love.
00:59:29
Even when you have a big agency behind you, you have to use all
00:59:33
your resources. You've got incredible resources.
00:59:35
You've got lots of, you know, public figure relationships.
00:59:38
You have to develop it. And what I think is really
00:59:40
frightening in a way is it they, they not only have they well
00:59:45
monetize that vertical, they have taken our own government
00:59:48
and weaponized it. So if you take a group like
00:59:50
USAID and you watch how much money got funnelled out, look at
00:59:53
the Chelsea Clinton a know nothing worthless sack of shit
00:59:57
got $84 million from USAID. She spent, I could never figure
01:00:01
out when I watched her buy her $11 million mansion, I thought,
01:00:04
wow, her parents really must take care of her.
01:00:06
Turns out the $11 million came from the American taxpayers.
01:00:09
She got 3 she spent on a wedding she got funded through,
01:00:13
you know, 84 from US. ID Why isn't she being
01:00:15
prosecuted? Why isn't that money being
01:00:18
clawed back? And let me say this, on this
01:00:19
show, I've mentioned, said it many times, and we know that
01:00:22
Donald Trump is tuned into our show as well as JD Vance.
01:00:26
I've said it, George Soros, Alexander Soros are
01:00:28
international and domestic terrorists.
01:00:30
They have, they have weaponized himself against the American
01:00:33
people. Even in my own state.
01:00:35
I'm stuck in the socialist state of Colorado for the moment.
01:00:37
My mom lives here. She's 93 and I take care of her
01:00:40
and her friends are here. So I haven't made the move.
01:00:42
I really want to move to Florida like you.
01:00:44
But here we are with a very sophisticated system, you know,
01:00:48
operating behind the scenes. Let's face it, if I'm going to
01:00:50
start putting money into shows, I'm going to pick a guy like
01:00:53
John Rocker. I'm going to pick the Big Ming
01:00:55
show and I'm going to put some money into those shows because I
01:00:57
know these guys are real Americans.
01:00:59
They're true patriots. They want the best for the
01:01:02
country, but you don't see that happening.
01:01:05
Do you find that you've now that you've gotten into the podcast
01:01:07
game, do you see how the that vertical on that side, when they
01:01:10
want to weaponize against us, those people get an unlimited
01:01:13
amount of capital to promote and grow their shows.
01:01:16
Yeah, their their their job is to create strife throughout this
01:01:20
country and most specifically against the Conservative Party.
01:01:23
That is, their job is to be be advertised.
01:01:27
And an incredible amount you, you look at people Bill Kristol
01:01:29
got, I could never figure out how Bill Kristol could promote
01:01:32
so negatively. Right.
01:01:33
I, I was surprised his soul wasn't being sucked out of him.
01:01:36
And then I heard about the $8 million a year he was getting
01:01:38
from USAID. He's probably hiring some guy to
01:01:41
run a social media for a hundred a year, being extra generous.
01:01:44
And he's putting 7.9 million in his pocket at 8 million.
01:01:47
You can understand, you saw how you know Kamala Harris comes off
01:01:51
her election run 24 negative.
01:01:53
But here she is paying Megan Thee Stallion, Beyoncé and, and
01:01:57
and and even Sean Penn getting paid for that Ukraine
01:02:00
appearance, $5. Just these tremendous amounts of
01:02:03
money and none of it is coming from the right into the right
01:02:06
organizations of the top 100 shows or up and coming shows
01:02:10
with public figures like yourself.
01:02:11
George, you and I have discussed this so many times about the
01:02:14
lack of funding and we've allowed the left to become so
01:02:18
weaponized. Even these influencers, I
01:02:20
believe many of the influencers, JoJo from jurors, the
01:02:23
Krasensteins, Brooklyn dad, that little, that little coward fag,
01:02:27
Chris Mallory, Harry Sisson. I don't you know, I'd like to
01:02:30
slap each one of them with a bitch slap.
01:02:33
George. We talked about it and that's
01:02:34
one of the things that's really horrendous that they have been
01:02:36
given so much capital to promote these negative anti US and US
01:02:42
people messages. George, your thoughts?
01:02:44
Because I know you and I have made this discussion.
01:02:45
Well, that's the thing the the left and all our organizations,
01:02:49
somehow, no matter what, they always come together.
01:02:53
You know, they'll fight on the same issues and stick to their
01:02:55
guns. They'll always get the money to
01:02:56
advertise to pay, pay social media influencers on this on our
01:03:01
side doesn't you bit you can't even get them to even throw
01:03:04
money at a show to throw some commercials or anything.
01:03:07
I mean, I don't know if they're cheap or whatever.
01:03:09
They got it. They have like maybe 5
01:03:12
conservative social media influencers on like X that you
01:03:16
know, that they pay and believe me, they're not worth the shit
01:03:20
anyway. Those people with their posts.
01:03:22
Yeah, but that looks. Like, conservatives do have a,
01:03:26
you know, a very loud voice in talk radio.
01:03:29
I was thinking services probably dominate talk radio.
01:03:31
So but speaking space though. Speaking of this, like over the
01:03:35
weekend this came up which is getting a lot of attention.
01:03:38
It's called they're calling for to overturn the Smith Mundact.
01:03:42
I don't know if you're familiar with.
01:03:43
That Mund. I'm not, no.
01:03:45
So Barack Obama literally made it legal for the US government
01:03:48
to lie and use propaganda on U.S. citizens in the Smith Month
01:03:53
Modern Modernization Act. Yeah, he overturned it.
01:03:56
Actually. Smith Munt made them so they
01:03:58
couldn't do it and Barack Obama cancelled it.
01:04:02
He's about right. Yeah, he cancelled it because
01:04:05
what it does is it allows the US government to lie and manipulate
01:04:08
the press to, of course, spread a narrative.
01:04:12
Right now there's a push to rename the Smith Month Act, the
01:04:14
Charlie Kirk Act, bring it back into a force where the US
01:04:17
government cannot weaponize media against us.
01:04:21
But I got, you know, now that you're a podcaster and you and
01:04:23
you clearly you've got a good game plan.
01:04:25
You've got a great team behind you.
01:04:27
What's the what? What is the message you really
01:04:29
want to convey? I know we don't have a whole lot
01:04:31
of time yet here. So what is the message you
01:04:34
really want to convey from your show?
01:04:35
What's your plan? Because you're a guy that's
01:04:37
never held back and I respect you for that.
01:04:40
Regardless of the shots you took, you're you're a real
01:04:43
fucking GI mean. You're not playing around.
01:04:45
You've always said what the fuck was on your mind and you didn't
01:04:48
care what the impact of it was. I don't think you have any
01:04:51
regrets about it because you don't seem to be a guy That
01:04:53
strikes me because I don't have a lot of regrets.
01:04:55
I've definitely lived on both sides of the fence and there's
01:04:57
different moments when things have happened to me, but I've
01:05:00
never regretted what I did. I've always looked back and said
01:05:02
there was justification for it. What's the the big message
01:05:06
behind on Cage and what's your plan moving forward?
01:05:09
For, for now, let's establish an audience.
01:05:11
And of course, the bigger you get, the more chances you can
01:05:14
take, the more risks you can take, the more credibility you
01:05:17
create, the bigger you get. So, you know, now it's trying to
01:05:21
get, you know, I've already had some great guests, I guess some
01:05:24
great guests coming up. And to get, you know, to that
01:05:27
size where you're, you're 50 or 80 or 100th show, you've got
01:05:30
some credibility. And then just just keep saying
01:05:34
the same show always says now I I do again.
01:05:38
When I was I I tried to hit this a couple times and keep me to
01:05:41
see me a sidetrack. When I did Tim pool show and we
01:05:44
did the first we did the first like 2 hours.
01:05:47
It was it was 3 hours, 3 hours on Tim pool show.
01:05:50
Like how long Tim? Like Jesus, Yeah, but yeah, but.
01:05:53
The time goes fast, don't you think Timbo's a?
01:05:55
Good. It was fun.
01:05:56
It was fun. We did the first two hours on on
01:05:58
YouTube and he said, you, you can't talk about 3 things.
01:06:01
You can't talk about transvestites, about the COVID
01:06:04
shot or violence in any in any fashion.
01:06:07
You can't you do that shit. I will get suspended by YouTube.
01:06:10
Like no shit. I thought this was a free forum.
01:06:13
No FCC's like yeah, technically, but YouTube will fucking shut my
01:06:16
showdown. You talk about violence, the
01:06:18
COVID shot or trainees. Oh shit, I was like, we get a
01:06:22
rumble last hour. Fucking have at it.
01:06:24
So it's still it's still that, you know, I always want to do a
01:06:28
podcast because there is no FCC. There is no fucking dump button.
01:06:31
I guess what the fuck I want to say.
01:06:33
Well, evidently you can't and without the fool, without the
01:06:36
platform and of course YouTube, you know, you still got Spotify,
01:06:39
you still got rumble, you still got Apple.
01:06:42
But I would honestly don't know about Spotify specifically, but
01:06:45
I would say Apple would probably be, you know, of the same
01:06:48
mindset of YouTube and God knows apples literal as hell.
01:06:51
Guess what, You ain't got to worry about none of that shit
01:06:54
here on Rumble. Yeah, I know, I know.
01:06:55
And then hopefully I get as big as you guys want to have my own,
01:06:58
my own Rumble channel. But yeah, it's going to be yeah.
01:07:03
I mean, it's going to be same the same shit that I've said.
01:07:06
You know what? Time do you do your show?
01:07:08
By the way? What's that?
01:07:10
What time do you do your show? We we film like 4 to 5 shows a
01:07:14
month and they come out once a week.
01:07:17
They come out 6:00 Thursday nights.
01:07:19
All right, as long as you don't come around 11:00 AM, you're
01:07:21
good, bro. But you.
01:07:23
Guys do a show every day. I'm I'm not, but we're 11.
01:07:25
AM everyday, 11 AM. We've also got our big MIG talk
01:07:28
radio show. And then we have the number one
01:07:30
crypto show on Rumble, the Crypto Power Hour.
01:07:33
That's at 9:00 AM Eastern standard two days.
01:07:37
So we have quite a few shows we do.
01:07:38
But you know, John, let me get this.
01:07:40
Scars and Stripes. Where do they buy your book?
01:07:43
Right now it's just out of print.
01:07:45
I did. I did 22 prints of it.
01:07:48
Basically got tired of fucking around with it.
01:07:50
Yeah, it came out in 2011. We did a second round of
01:07:53
printing in 13. I think they actually want to do
01:07:56
a third round. I'm like, eh, I'm kind of, I'm
01:07:58
kind of booked out. You can still go on Amazon.
01:08:01
OK, so you're on YouTube uncaged podcast, your social media on X
01:08:05
is it's John Rocker. Give him a follow, go check his
01:08:08
show out. Please go over to YouTube,
01:08:10
support him and subscribe. You know how it is.
01:08:12
He's trying to get out of the gate.
01:08:13
He's got a good plan. I trust John Rocker and you
01:08:16
know, I don't say that about a lot of fucking people.
01:08:18
I think he's the real deal. He's proven himself over history
01:08:21
on X. So check him out.
01:08:23
And of course, you guys, the most precious commodity you have
01:08:25
is time. Thank you so much for turning
01:08:27
in. Take the short form, take the
01:08:28
long form. We're not coming after you.
01:08:30
We want you to promote, promote the show, promote John Rocker,
01:08:33
go over to X after the show, go follow him.
01:08:35
He can use all the support he can get because he's in a real
01:08:37
fight. It is what it is.
01:08:39
You guys know how that works. Of course, don't forget to
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It's a way to thank us for these great interviews all the time we
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We've got some QR codes over there, George Ballantine, a last
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words on the way out of gate and we've got an interview tomorrow.
01:09:06
I'll give the details after you get done, George.
01:09:07
Or you can do it now. Yeah.
01:09:09
I don't know what just happened. We just lost the feet over there
01:09:11
and rumble tomorrow, I don't even know what.
01:09:15
Analyse what interview we got tomorrow, right now.
01:09:16
Well, not tomorrow, but we've got Jonathan Otto, which is
01:09:19
going to be great. I'll give you some details over
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in the Big Me Show channel, so check it out.
01:09:23
George Last words, my brother. John, thank you.
01:09:26
It was a pleasure. Hopefully we'll get you on
01:09:27
again. Hopefully when I come to
01:09:29
Florida, I'll come meet up with you if you have time.
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