Tim Ryan Pragmatic • Working Class • Mindful • Bridge Builder • Reformer |EP850

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[00:00:33] America, great again. The Big Mig Show Welcome back to The Big Mig Show. Of course, I'm your host, Lance Migliaccio, with my ride or die co-host, George Ballantyne. Of course, it's edge of the knife, tip of the spear. Monday morning, you know, lots going on as always. Of course, just some of it you're shaking your head at. And thanks for tuning in. You guys know the drill. You know, hit that follow button and hit the subscribe button if you do the $5 paid subscription. Great.

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[00:01:32] So it's kind of like noisy out there. They got you unlocked. Don't you have to park the car up the street? No. They can't lock you out of your house. I didn't know. I used the, I'll pull the handicap card. We're talking about that. Some of that had you had to move the car or something. Yeah, we thought we did, but I just got to pull the disability card. We're here. You pulled the disability card? No, anybody. They can't stop you from going to your house. It's just. That's like the poor man's VIP. It'll get you right to the front. But of course, you don't want to get caught, you know, playing games with that. Of course, it's not very nice. It's not a game. I don't play games. No, I know. You have a bad knee.

[00:02:02] I know that. Bad knee, bad back. I'm just bad. Plus my mother. You know, if I got to take my mom somewhere. Yeah, same thing. I have the same thing here. We've got the card. I hang. But I don't use the card when I'm out solo. I'm not that kind of guy. I mean, there's a lot of other things probably I think about. There's something about that that just rubs me in the wrong way. When I see people jump out of the car that took a disability spot, you know what I mean? And they're like, really? And they look like they could run a marathon. You know, I just want to say, so Tina Peters got free today, everybody. So make sure you send her a little message on X or whatever.

[00:02:32] Yeah, I'm sure she's relieved. I don't think her feet felt with you all that well. All right. Well, listen, we got to always give a shout out to our sponsors. You know how we do it, of course. You know, we love our crypto, as you guys know. But we also love our gold and silver. And the guys over at Genesis Gold Group, in my opinion, do it right. This is the 62.2-gram Prepper Bar. And they came up with this because they thought, how are you going to walk around with a one-ounce token? You know, what are you going to carry around, a pair of tin stamps if you have to make a payment? Having some gold and silver on hand is always a good idea.

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[00:04:24] Well, he is a politician. We can. A little bit. If you want. You know, they make us wait. They make us wait around a lot, of course. No, but he's not a. You know, he's a recovering politician. We'll find out. Let's bring him in. Hold on. We're going to let him bury himself. All right. I got it. Welcome to the BigMig Show. Congressman Tim Ryan or former. Are you recovering? What's up? Are you recovering? I feel fully recovered, actually. Oh, yeah? Yeah. You know. Yeah. Wait. Hold on.

[00:04:54] Hold on. Wait. You want. You switch from Democrat to Republican? Ah, George. That would not be a recovery. Yeah. No, it wouldn't. George. George. The shot was clean. He had to take it. You know, Tim, I don't know if you've watched our show. On our show, we talk about the uniparty in D.C. And I feel like a lot of times, you know, what the founders and framers had in mind isn't necessarily what we see in daily activity. And there are some people that stand out. I think you were interesting as a Democrat.

[00:05:23] You stand out for a lot of reasons. I looked at a lot of your material from, you know, past and present. And I want to give people in the audience a little background. So, of course, he's former U.S. Congressman. He served for over two decades representing Ohio. He became a leading voice, you know, on American manufacturing, economic revitalization, health care, and working class communities. And, of course, today, you're co-founder of Unlikely Majorities and a national speaker focused on rebuilding trust in American institutions. That's not an easy job.

[00:05:49] Improving public health, strengthening local food systems, and advancing bipartisan solutions around the growing meha. Maha. Maha. You know, I guess you say potato. I say potato. He's the author of the best-selling books, Healing America and the Real Food Revolution. We'll get the information where you guys can get those books. And recently launched his sub-stack, Spiritual Citizenship, focused on mindfulness, connection, purpose, and rebuilding community in modern American life.

[00:06:17] Drawing from his experience in Congress and his advocacy for mindfulness, nutrition, and community well-being. Man, well, it's a mouthful. I love the fact that you're a Maha guy. You know, you came to us through Trevor. We've been big Maha supporters. I don't like what they've done to our food system. But let's back up for a minute. You know, I know you started at the state level. But what made you decide to go down the path to be a politician?

[00:06:46] I grew up in Northeast Ohio. I grew up just outside of Youngstown, Ohio. Super working class, you know, halfway between Cleveland and Pittsburgh. And, you know, our economy just got absolutely wrecked. So I actually ran from more of a, where are the jobs? Where's the economic activity here? Who's leading this whole thing? And I played sports my whole life. I was a quarterback. So I was comfortable in a leadership position and taking hits. Yeah. Sometimes.

[00:07:15] You're in good shape. You look like you've been hitting the weight. Well, no one, Lance. He says you're a quarterback. So let me, you're from Ohio. So in trying times. Yes, sir. In trying times, you must buck with the eye and roll with the tide. I got a brother-in-law. I got a brother-in-law from Alabama, bro. I just was, I spent the whole weekend with them. And I'm about to hear what the Alabama stuff. Yeah, George is a roll-time guy through and through. He's taking that shit to the grave. Maybe your brother-in-law is watching it and said, thank you.

[00:07:45] Yeah. Yeah. He's looking for some help. Blame your sister, man. Because he's got the whole. Blame your sister. She's the one that married him. Blame your sister. She's the one that married him. Exactly. He's a great guy, except for like 12 weekends in the fall. I mean, other than that, he's a great guy. You know what, though? It makes it fun, right? Because I always say if everybody thought the same, acted the same, it'd be real boring. That's why politics can be somewhat exciting. Because, you know, everybody has different views.

[00:08:12] As long as you show respect, which we'll get to later because that stuff's getting out of control. I do wish, now that you mention that, I do wish that politics was a little bit more like sports in the sense that you shake hands, then you go on the field, and you try to kick each other's ass. Contact sports, yes. As much as you can. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then you get off the field, and you shake hands, and you're a gentleman. You know? You're sportsmanship. You know, you say that. Lance, hold on.

[00:08:41] You say that. But I think they do that shake the hands, but it's behind the scenes so the public don't see. You know, that's where you get the uniparty stuff. Yeah, that's true. Here's my thing. Here's my thing that I'm going to ask you this because you were in there for two decades. You know, and maybe when you started, maybe it was different. You know, I really sat on the sidelines for a very long time. I wasn't really politically driven.

[00:09:05] And after a while, I just got sick of watching what was going on, and it was tough just to sit there because I just, you know, you're supposed to be government for the people, by the people. You know, when you first started, I don't know. You know, I wasn't paying attention back then. I'll have to be honest. I was way too focused on everything else I was doing. Do you feel like things really have taken a turn because maybe the Democrat Party you joined back then was different? Maybe the Republicans were different. You know, to me, it just seems like it's done this. And even the quality of the people. We've got some real low IQ people in Congress.

[00:09:35] I mean, there's some people there. Seriously? Seriously? I feel like should be, you know, maybe making sandwiches over at Chiba Hut, maybe, or Subway. I don't feel like they should be. They don't seem to try as the best to me. Give me some input here. What do you think? Yeah. Well, I think a couple things happened. I'll give you a great example. So I got in in 2003. The Iraq war had just started, which I was against.

[00:10:02] And we actually, you know, Bush was very unpopular. I think even after his reelect, he was like 30 some percent. Democrats took over in 2006, the House and the Senate. We literally were passing budgets. Like Bush got what he wanted with PEPFAR and some of the African stuff. And Dem's got an increase to the minimum wage and some investments in education or whatever. But the budget still passed. There was no shutting down the government. We're going to default on our debt.

[00:10:32] Like all this bullshit you hear that is all performative. And it has no substance to it. So when I got in, it was like, okay, we lost the Congress. So I'm going to get about one third of what I want because I'm the president. Maybe a little more because I'm the president. But the Democrats are going to get almost two thirds of what they want. And we're going to try to just, you know, provide some stability for the country. And then in 10, and then, you know, it just got progressively worse.

[00:11:01] And then people started hating each other. The algorithms took over. No one has a freaking conversation. There's no exploration of where. I mean, we're in such uncharted waters right now. We need complete reform of the government. And some of that may be we got to innovate within the government. Some of that's going to be free market. Like there's going to be some balance of this. And if we don't talk to each other, we're never going to know where that sweet spot is.

[00:11:29] I think our government is, it's far too gone. And I mean, as a whole, from Congress, Senate to our three-letter agencies. It's in our constitution. You know, if we're unhappy, we can install new government, get rid of it. I think that's where we're at. It's too far gone. Yeah. So much stuff is hidden. So much more stuff comes out. It's just crazy. And the thing that's hard for me, right, because I'm a transparency, accountability, and consequences guy.

[00:11:55] I feel like there should be equal application of the law, equal protection under the law. You know, I'm a true constitutionalist at heart. And for me, when I look at D.C., you know, and that's the thing about this show, we go after everybody. I mean, like if I don't like what somebody's doing, I don't care about the Democrat name or the Republican name or the non-political. I don't care about any of that. Because to me, I feel like that's turned into more of a kind of a David Copperfield sleight of hand.

[00:12:19] And interestingly enough, I'd have to say that when you're in the chat rooms and you're in because we're in lots of chat rooms and lots of newsrooms and lots of stuff all over the Internet, you know, on Telegram and everywhere else. The general trend of the American public is that the level of trust with any institution in government, any agency and the rest of it, is extremely low.

[00:12:38] Because the theft that's been exposed, when you look at USAID and you look at people that have gotten this incredible amount of money like George Soros, I mean, I think he's a incredibly disruptive and divisional and chaos person. You take a person like Reid Hoffman, you know, and you take Mark Zuckerberg with the Zuckerbucks. You know, I want free and fair elections. And my opinion is, is that if we pick a Democrat and he was elected freely and fairly and there isn't a bunch of nefarious things involved, that's so be it.

[00:13:05] He's the top, you know, public choice. And the same thing would go for the Republican. But, you know, I just wondered, Tim, you know, are we too, you know, George, like I knew right away when you said that, he started smiling because he feels like this is unfixable. And when I'm starting to see the trend online, I would have to tell you that a lot of Americans feel like that. And they're tired of the division and chaos and all the bickering and all the childish, you know, ridiculous stuff that's been going on.

[00:13:32] I don't care what it is. You know, and then we've got a we've got a legal system that is so freaking weaponized in its own way, depending on who installed, you know, and I know they're I know they're placed or, you know, who put the judiciary in place? What what judge is sitting there? They're not they're not unbiased. You know, they say when you put the robe on, you're supposed to be unbiased. But that's not what we're seeing. We've seen an incredible amount of bias. We've seen the alphabet agencies. And the truth of the matter is, when I talk about transparency and accountability and consequences,

[00:13:58] if a government official or an agency individual commits a crime, my expectation is that they're going to arrest me for that same crime. And that should be the same thing. It's much like insider trading. I have always thought that congressional members were underpaid. But but but with that, if I was going to give them what I think they're the more money that I think they absolutely should have, then all the other crap, all the insider trading and all that stuff. If you step off the curb, you're in oncoming traffic. You're going to jail because I can't insider trade.

[00:14:26] And if we're not going to equally apply the law and if we're not going to do it in a system that's supposed to be the best thing for the country, well, then I think all bets are off. I don't I don't. Maybe I'm wrong. You tell me because I'd like to hear from somebody who's had the experience, you know, in the back doors, in the hallways. You participated and, you know, probably more than anybody what's really going on. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I got in the Congress as the poorest member and I left 20 years later as the poorest member. So I agree with you 100 percent.

[00:14:53] I knew that about you because I think it's all. I mean, look at Nancy Pelosi, right? Yeah. I mean, look, look at Dianne Feinstein, 96 million dollar net worth flying around in a paid for 63 million dollar jet. Nancy Pelosi making hundreds and hundreds. And I don't want to just pick on the Democrats because the Republicans are doing it, too. My issue is if the laws are on the books and if they're going to come and get Tim Ryan because he just got a tip from somebody in Congress and they're going to come for Lance Miliacho and George Ballantyne, then I want him to go get the congressional members.

[00:15:22] If a if a if a federal prosecutor destroys evidence in a case and I don't care whether it's a J6 or or it's another case that has nothing to do with anything on the Republican side, because that's a more Republican leaning topic. I want those people. I want those I want those agents sanctioned, fired and immediately indicted. And I want the same thing for judges and I want the same thing for federal prosecutors. And we're not doing it. Yeah. No, I agree. I agree with you 100 percent.

[00:15:47] I mean, that's the only way you're going to ever rebuild trust in the system is to make sure that regardless of what political party. I mean, who's the who's placing the 500 million dollar bet with the war on Iran and the oil markets? Like, come on, like, what are we doing? It's not what we're here for. They're getting fat over there, Tim. Can I get the tip? Yeah, if I can inside me a bone, can I get a bone?

[00:16:13] I mean, I'm saying, if the law is not going to be equally applied, then let's go. Let's go wild, wild west. I'm ready to go full gangster mode if I'm not going to get prosecuted. Great. Let me go. Let me go out there and make a living just like the congressional members do. And I also think the lobbying control. It's gotten worse and worse and worse. And they're just buying congressional members. They're buying senators. And it doesn't stop. Yeah. I mean, this is when I say there needs to be reform. You need campaign finance reform.

[00:16:41] You need immigration reform. You need economic reform. You need educational reform. I just want to go back to what George said about, you know, I'm personally not ready to give up on the American experiment. And I hope I hope you guys aren't either. And I hope your audience isn't. But from time to time, as Jefferson said, he talked about having a revolution every 19 years. I don't think that means, you know, guns and violence. I think it means there needs to be.

[00:17:09] And I'm not saying you work, but I'm just saying, like, I think it needs to be a revolution of thinking, an evolution of thinking. And what gives me and the unlikely majority's work that I'm doing and the spiritual citizenship is to try to get us upstream of politics. We keep looking at politics through or looking at the world through the lens of politics. That's a fucking terrible idea. Like there's a horrible. That's a terrible idea.

[00:17:36] Why would we want to do that? Hold on. Lance, hold on, because now we're going to get deep in this. So, yeah, I agree with you when I just show everybody knows everybody watching when I say, you know, disband the government, I talk about doing it peacefully. It could be done through the court systems. We just need a lot of money and backing. But the problem is you said hopefully we didn't give up on the experiment. I think a lot of people have because you can't fix this experiment because there's too much other stuff going on.

[00:18:06] And in order to get that fixed, you need Congress to do it. But when everything is they're doing for their own personal benefits and we'll talk. So we can talk about voting. Right. If we have problems with our voting system, we have illegals that are registered to vote and are voting and we have a problem. And we and we know this because it's happened. There's a lot of stuff out there. So then how can we get the right candidates to fix it? We can't. That's a step. I mean, we need ID for everything in this country.

[00:18:35] You need an idea to get in a plane, buy alcohol, to get in concerts, to get into ballparks sometimes. But you don't want to have an ID to show who you are to vote. I mean, why is that so such a bad thing? And there's people on both sides that don't want it. Some don't. I mean, there are there's a lot of rhinos look at and I'll just say soon because. He's he's he's worthless. He's done nothing. But this is a problem we're facing.

[00:19:01] So we can't it's we can't fix stuff because we can't get the right people in it if it's not if it's rigged in their favor. And that's why you see Republicans that don't want to vote for voter ID because they're they're part of it. And it's sad. I mean, well, I would just thoughts on me. We we we well, we need what you need is you need in people that are engaged. That's why I'm saying, like, if you just look at the politics, it looks awful. Why would you get into it?

[00:19:31] You know, it's very much corrupted. Your family sacrifices. You're never at home. You don't see your kids. I mean, it's a it's a brutal profession in so many ways. So there's already so many barriers. But here's the here's the issue here. We've got a 40 trillion dollar debt. We've got broken systems across the board. Like there is no talk about the debt or deficit right now in any political conversation going on.

[00:20:01] And I keep telling the Democrats like one of the reasons Bill Clinton won is because he looked freaking responsible. He kept talking about the debt and the deficits and interest rates and up private investment. So we've got to get back to that where you hear a politician talk about being responsible. And the other the other piece that I wanted to mention, George, to the comment of, you know, like the lack of trust and all of that is that you guys probably see this, too.

[00:20:30] When I when I read, when I travel, when I go, there is there is so much cool stuff happening in the country. You know, how are we going to use A.I.? We hear the doom and gloom about A.I. And there's a whole, you know, data center thing we need to talk about. But how do we use A.I. to absolutely transform our health care system? How do we use it to absolutely transform our education system? Well, you said health care. So it could light this country. We have a solution for that. Yeah.

[00:21:00] There's a company called Solem Global that's created an A.I. health care wallet and A.I. system that could basically remove all the fraud. If they if the so if the federal government would work with Solem Global, they've already perfected the system. It's already built. They could literally install it and all that Medicaid and Medicare thought, you know, theft and all the leering centers and the autism and all the rest of that crap that's been going on. I mean, there's a big there's fraud in every state.

[00:21:25] Right. So let's just but it's tough because when you look at the stuff that that Elon Musk started to disclose in USAID, like the 14 magic money computers that were sitting on solo systems that weren't connected to the Treasury that I could just go in and go. Yeah. Let me send 10 Ryan over 10 million dollars. And literally, you could just and he came out and of course, he got attacked for it. He ended up, you know, he was getting death threats and all the rest of it. That's why he bolstered himself up with that deep, you know, security team.

[00:21:51] He had all kinds of X special forces guys and they all got approved to carry small SMGs. The point is, that's the problem, because, again, I always feel like this with the analogy we use on this show a lot is if you have a bartender just stealing from you, he steals the first drink the first night. He gets away with it and he steals a couple of drinks the following night. Then a couple more. And by the end of the month, you're paying his rent on his apartment. Right. The point is, we've empowered Congress. We've empowered our institutions.

[00:22:17] We've been empowered the president. I mean, we've got a billionaire in the House and he doesn't want to talk about budgets. I mean, me personally, that's a problem. I want to pay Congress more money, but I'm going to tell him, yeah, but you don't get paid if you don't balance the budget. You don't because at the end of the day, when you know, you know, originally the founders only wanted congressional members and senators to be part time. They were supposed to go in there, do their thing and get out. Now, I know the job has gotten much more complex. I don't think the founders expected government. It got complex because they complicated it. Exactly.

[00:22:46] You brought up Bill Clinton. I love Bill Clinton was great as a president. He had the budget was balanced. I can't say so much for his wife. She's a whole different story, but he did great. I mean, the country was running well under Bill Clinton. It wasn't bad. Not like Obama or Biden. Be careful. We don't want him to get suicide. Or Bush. Why? Well, I mean, it was. He laughed at that when he noticed. Well, I think when you get. A nervous laugh is what he did.

[00:23:16] I don't want to go down. I don't want to go down that algorithm right now. Don't go down there, brother. Do not go down there. I try to stay away from it. I just think when you when you get like a Bill Clinton type where he's center left, he understands economics. Yeah. He thinks the government can be when run properly a force for good. I mean, he had a whole reinventing government plan. You know, if you're able body American, you have to go to work.

[00:23:43] I think he aligned with American values in a lot of ways from a public policy perspective. And I think we're at this moment right now where that's what we need. You need someone who doesn't just say, oh, the hell with government. It's broken. You need to see somebody to say this could be a force for good and it's corrupt and it's bureaucratic. But my God, we have AI now. We have the blockchain now.

[00:24:09] We've got great opportunities to provide the transparency that you were talking about to provide the reform. There's a school called Alpha School. I don't know if you guys heard this. It's an AI school. Nope. They're piloting. They're piloting two or three schools right now. And I think they're trying to grow. But they use AI to teach kids everything they need. And it's two hours a day. And the rest of the day, they teach them life skills. They teach them public speaking.

[00:24:37] They, you know, do other kind of ethical trainings and that kind of thing. But anyway, the point is they would sit down with you and they would say, little boy, little girl, they say, who are your friends on the playground? And they would tell them, oh, it's Johnny and Nick and George and Tim. And then they would create a story at their reading level with all their friends in the story. And they got in a fight on the playground.

[00:25:02] And so now the kid who needs to learn how to read and go from fifth grade to sixth grade to seventh grade is engaged in the story. And that taps into something in your brain where you're now curious. Now you're interested. And these guys are like four to five X on test scores compared to normal schools. And my only point in saying this is you guys are talking about health care, waste, fraud, and abuse. How about you could get my blood work? You could get my genes.

[00:25:31] And you could run them against the world and figure out that in 10 years I'm going to get cancer X. And if I switch my diet, nutrition, blah, blah, blah, blah. The modeling could change the health care industry because you could preemptively stop certain things dead in your tracks. But that's the thing. You can take AI, for example. I've written a couple of books. I wrote one that I'm just publishing them now. I'm just in the middle of it. Self-publishing. I'm doing – I had to learn a lot of stuff. But I got one called Blood in the Streets, which is from the Rothschilds. And it's about AI.

[00:26:00] But it's not really about the AI Terminator panic thing. It's the fact that this is an opportunity like never before. It's a gold rush. And it's beyond anything that I've ever seen in my lifetime at least when you look at historically the possibilities. But even when you talk about predictive modeling in the health care industry, what's incredible is it's the research that's going on, say, in Japan, Korea, India. Because you could be facing a health issue here. And because the doctors aren't up to speed, you could run a search on Claude.

[00:26:30] If you created a medical agent in Claude and you deep researched that medical agent, you could come out with some stuff that would completely save your life, change your medical situation. But then you've got a problem. You've got the FDA. You've got the CDC. You've got all these organizations. You've got people like Fauci running around doing stuff that we know wasn't the right thing to do. And that's the problem because these doctors, they don't necessarily have the bandwidth to do it, although I think they're using more AI.

[00:26:56] When you go into your doctor, a lot of times they're recording the minute notes and they're making sure they didn't miss anything, which, of course, I'm sure is a great way to get your insurance down. But it's a tough thing. I love what you're doing, the fact that you recognize the food. I want to talk – I'm going to switch gears here a little bit. I want to talk about your mindful nation and your real food revolution. And that's one of the things that drew me to you because I really love your position because I don't like GMO food. I don't like what they've done to our food. I think it's dangerous. I talk about it a lot.

[00:27:24] You go to a foreign country, like you go to Italy, for example, and you eat pasta or wheat or food. And you don't get the bloating. You don't get all the crap because that food is not what we have here. The glyphosate is a major issue. But that's a problem, right, because we have the agricultural industrial complex that have so many senators in the world. So jump in there. Let's talk about the books, and you talk about health. Yeah, for sure.

[00:27:50] Well, you'll be glad to know that although my name is Timothy Ryan, my mom was 100% Italian. And I grew up – What was his name? My grandfather was Rizzi, R-I-Z-Z-I. He was from Calabria. We got a friend, Mike Schwartz, who says he's Italian too. Yeah. Dr. Mike Schwartz. I'm telling you. We made his name match. He's now called Schwartz-Aroni. But you just said Calabria?

[00:28:19] My grandfather's from Calabria. My grandmother was from Buzz Legat. You know, a lot of – Calabria, Tim. You know, he's one of ours. Hey, you know. He's a friend of ours. They solve a lot of problems. I mean, yeah, we could go back to that. So I grew up – My grandparents lived a couple streets down from me, and our little Catholic elementary school was in between.

[00:28:45] So either after school, my grandmother was at our house cooking, or we walked to their house, and it was pizza and pasta fazool. But they would always – They were picking stuff out of the garden. They had this huge garden. Yeah. You know, we had peppers and eggplant, tomato. So I grew up in an amazing childhood of, like, eating great food that was made from scratch. I mean, my grandmother made fried dough. She'd make cookies.

[00:29:15] Like, I'd drive back. I had a three-hour ride to college. She'd give me a box of cookies. I'd have to go from Youngstown, basically, to Toledo. Well, those cookies didn't make it past Cleveland. Like, they were gone. You couldn't have taken those cookies into the college, Dorn, because you would have been attacked. They would have thrown into the ground and stolen the cookies. So you had to eat them before you got to college. You had to eat them.

[00:29:38] So the point is, like, I grew up really appreciating, like, healthy, clean food from the garden and how good it was. And, you know, we all have our grandma's sauce as our favorites. Our mom's sauce is our favorite. Like, we ate great. And then you start experiencing what we experienced. My grandmother gets so mad. If we bought a pizza, if we went out to dinner, she'd be mad at us. Why don't you come down here? I'll cook for you. You know? Like, so...

[00:30:08] The thing is, once you eat... Inform me. You eat good food like that from your grandmother, going out to eat, it doesn't compare. It's like, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's like going on... People think Olive Garden is Italian food. Come on. That didn't count. We were fortunate. You get the unlimited breadsticks. You know? I've never been there. I never went there. I never go there. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. We had... I've been eating there a few times because of other people. And I have to say, it's a pretty disappointing...

[00:30:36] You know, when you grow up in that kind of culture, right? You know, where they're growing the vegetables and they're making... You know, the sauce has been on the gravy. Some people call it gravy. Some people say it's sauce, depending on your family. But the point is, it's sitting on the stove for, you know, 10, 12, 15 hours. Oh, God. You can't wait to dip a piece of bread in there, you know? And, you know, it's funny. I talked to Roger Stone a lot about cooking and food, right? And cooking and food. And basically, in the case of Roger, he's a foodie, right? A lot of people... I don't know if you knew that about him. He loves to cook. He does it.

[00:31:06] He cooks every Sunday. And his family grew up like that. We talk about it. And the point is, it's not... It's a family bonding event, too, right? It's this culture of sitting and sharing and eating and enjoying. And it's a different scenario. It's just a different world in a lot of ways. And how good it is for kids, too, to, like, sit there and, like... I mean, I think about, oh, how did I get into politics? And politics is, you know, speaking to people and connecting to people. And I just remember everyone telling stories.

[00:31:35] And I would learn how to tell stories with just enough little bullshit in there to make it, like, a little bit of a better story. How long ago was that? That might... Well, growing up, yeah. So you learned to be a politician from a young age? Very, very... Well, some of the skills transfer, for sure, from an Italian dinner table. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. And so, like, but the community piece and the, like, having a kid sit there and listen to adults talk. And we would talk about politics.

[00:32:03] And we would talk about the Cleveland Browns, which wasn't always fun. But we would, you know, we'd talk about sports. And you would just learn. So it's not just food. I mean, obviously, that's an important part. But the community piece and the connection piece and how much we read today about loneliness and suicide rates and, you know, just people that don't feel connected to other people. And that's why the spiritual citizenship that I'm doing is really, I keep saying, we've got to go upstream of politics.

[00:32:30] And we've got to connect to the divinity within ourselves. And we need to see divinity in others. You know, we're all God's children. And if we just do that, the conversation about politics changes dramatically because we're actually going to have respect for somebody and we're going to listen and that person's going to listen. And, hey, you may not be right. Yeah. You know, but it's right. You may learn something.

[00:32:58] If, like, Grandma Rizzy, you've got two ears, one mouth, you may actually learn something if you listen to somebody else. But it's really difficult when you look at the people that have a nefarious undercurrent of what they want to do to the country. When I look at the Soroses and I look at their Open Society and the 64 NGOs worth of money they got out of USAID, and then when I look what the funding was used for, or I look at somebody like Reid Hoffman, the vision and chaos for the people that get involved with that in the United States, you know, they don't have good intent for people.

[00:33:27] So it's really difficult when you talk about the school system, and we have the worst ratings since 2009. Is it the Board of Education's fault? Is it the teacher's fault? Is it the parents' fault? I don't know who's at fault. But can you imagine that we've gone to that point and that our kids are getting their education from something as god-awful as TikTok? You know, let's put a challenge up there that you're going to lick a toilet seat to win a challenge on TikTok. When you look at Chinese TikTok, it's a completely different product.

[00:33:54] It's a high education, high value, athletic events, you know, scholastic events. It's a completely different product. And what we have over here is booty shaking and men dressed up in dresses, you know, talking about how they want to, you know, their kids can come and talk to them, and I feel like it's just a grooming operation. And it makes it hard. I mean, I don't care politically. You're going to tell me, I don't want to hear about there's more than two genders. I believe there are three genders. There's men, women, and mentally insane people.

[00:34:24] It's not a gender, Lance. Yeah. I'm being sarcastic. I know. But it's a struggle. And you've got the school system that they want to be part of that. It's like, you know, some kid, the fact that they even think they have the authority to talk about transitioning your child. I'm very fortunate my daughter's older and she's got her head on straight. She always went to private schools. Because I have to be honest with you, Tim, I would probably end up in jail. Tim, you got grandkids? If somebody talked to me about grooming, you know, about transitioning my son or daughter. Tim, you have grandkids?

[00:34:55] No. He said no. Oh, no. I've got a 23, 23, 22 and an 11-year-old. Yeah. All right. So 11-year-old. So he or she, if she's in school and they got drag queens coming in teaching them, how is that healthy for a kid? Because kids' minds are still developing. They're easily swayed. Once they start going to school, they get more. They start swaying more from what kids have to say and from what their parents do.

[00:35:23] But listen, one of my best friends is gay. I got nothing wrong, nothing against gay people, listen to that. It's just you can't push it on kids. And that's what's going on. It's crazy. It was like a battle. Why is it a battle? If a PTA mom stood up at a meeting talking about, you know, trying to stand up for kids, she would get persecuted. And this is one of the big issues in this country because kids can be manipulated.

[00:35:50] I don't, I don't, I've not seen that in my kid's school. I've not seen anything like that. And maybe, maybe, maybe we're fortunate. You know, we've got a great school system and great teachers and they focus on, they focus on the reading, writing and arithmetic and, you know, developing their social and emotional skills and all of that good stuff. And I think that's where we want to be. I don't think we need to get distracted by these other things.

[00:36:14] And this is why, this is why you need people to run for office and run for school board and be competent, smart, strategic leaders in these communities. And we can't all just check out and say, well, it's someone else's problem because then you get what we got. You get people who don't have the skill set. I mean, you think about like a city council in, you know, small town Ohio somewhere.

[00:36:44] It used to be like the president of the bank, the superintendent of schools, the guy who ran the local factory, the head of the union. You'd have like five to 10 community leaders who were the city elders. They were the wise people who like start to see themselves as stewards of the town, stewards of the school. This is not your Bob Kraft says this all the time about the Patriots. He says, I'm not the owner.

[00:37:14] I'm a I'm the steward of this football team. And one day I'm going to be gone. And if we had other people say, I'm the steward, I'm the president of the United States. I'm just a steward of this. I'm in a long line of other people. I'm a congressman. I'm a steward. I'm on the board of directors of the United States. And we just we get so narrow and so ego focused and so greedy. And like all of these things where we operate from fear 100 percent of the time, it seems like now.

[00:37:44] What team, what company, what church functions at a high level going from fear? Yeah, it just doesn't work. It's a short term thing. But we're everyone's afraid. We talk about on this show a lot that common sense. This is George's saying. I don't want to steal it. Common sense is not so common. And I always say that about the people in D.C. when I say, well, what do you think? Republicans? I said, I don't think either. I think I want to look at a candidate.

[00:38:12] You know, because in some cases, some of the things Fetterman did, I thought he was going to be terrible when he first started. Some of the things he really showed some common sense. And it's not because I'm looking for anybody. You know, one thing we don't do, we don't, you know, we don't kiss ass here. I don't I don't go along because Donald Trump says something. If I don't like what he says or does, we come right out and say it. And I'll say it about any politician. For instance, I'll give you one right now. He endorsed Lindsey Graham. I think Lindsey Graham is one of the biggest rhinos. The war monster Lindsey Graham. Say it right there. The Israel mouthpiece.

[00:38:42] But, you know, that's the issue, right? Common sense is not so common. The level of integrity and the level of knowledge and the level of, you know, just I'll say IQ points. I mean, we don't have that. I mean, Ilian Omar and, you know, and Jasmine Crockett and many people on the Republican side and even AOC that seems to be getting, you know, groomed and filled. Maybe she's going to make a presidential run. It's frightening. I mean, I'd like to see AOC and Kamala run together on a ticket. Oh, yeah. The brain trust.

[00:39:11] But the point is, my argument is forget the. I always tell people in the audience or people that I mean on the street, if somebody comes up to me, I always say forget. Forget that. Get rid of the R and the D. Just ask yourself, is this person who you want in that seat? And are they doing the job for the American people? Or did they go in there to, you know, to make a shitload of money for themselves? You know, like MTG. I mean, she rolls out of here. She comes into Congress with less than $700. And she rolls out in five years. Of course, she waited until she was confirmed to get that retirement package. Right.

[00:39:41] So she can keep it in the chain. And she rolled out of there with $25 million. You know, the average person can't do that on 176 or 190 some odd thousand dollar a year paycheck. By the time you pay the bills, and especially a congressional member that has to travel and, you know, go out and entertain. I know there's some other funds you guys get or you did get. But it's bullshit. She shouldn't be rolling out of there with $25 million. Because if you and I did that, it would be a full SEC investigation. And they'd probably be coming in the door right now with flashbangs and kicking our dogs. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:40:11] I didn't know she left with that much money. Wow. 25 mil. Are you sure it's 25? 25. You go look it up. You know, I have a personal vendetta of that. That's crazy. Her and her family, they did have a construction business. But it's not worth that much money. So she is shady. Yeah. I mean, you can go down the list of people that went from nothing to having this fabulous amount of money. And I get it. Look, you're being put around billionaires and very successful, you know, the geniuses of an industry, right? You're dealing with all this kind of stuff.

[00:40:41] And that's why I think they're underpaid. But I think there has to be a family. Who is it? Elon Omar? What did she do? She said they were worth how many million? Then she changed it just recently on a report or tax report. Wasn't it a wine company that she somehow, you know, was that never existed? Right. You know, I mean, let's face it. Let me ask you this, Tim. When you saw all the fraud in the healthcare, because you're a healthcare guy, and I love that about you. Did you just get fucking angry? Because I got angry. I was like, you, Leering Center.

[00:41:10] Man, where's the tasers? And, you know, where are these? I mean, and honestly, Waltz? And it looks like Omar knew. I mean, why aren't we just grabbing people in droves? I mean, put me in charge of it. I won't take that long to go up and snatch people. I just can't believe it. And they were walking out of the house with suitcases full of cash. You and I, if we go through the airport with $10,000, we're going to get stopped. And they're going to say, show me where you got this from the bank.

[00:41:38] How are you walking through Minneapolis Airport with suitcases with millions and millions of dollars and just strolling your way right through? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to me, I don't care what party you're for, you know, what red hat, blue hat. The corruption, zero tolerance, and the waste, fraud, and abuse. Like, we now have the tools to be able to figure this out.

[00:42:03] Now, is Trump doing it in Minnesota because of everything going on there and walls and that? Yeah. There's probably a lot of red states that have it just as bad, and we should do them all. Because when I was in, we had, I think the Medicare number for waste, fraud, and abuse was like $50 billion a year. $50 billion. It's insane. So, like, do you know how much health care you could provide to people who don't get it or get shitty care or whatever?

[00:42:34] Or give half back to the taxpayer, pay the debt down with that if you put another $50 billion every year? And you could do that across the welfare state. You could do – there's a lot of big corporate welfare, too, that's out there, a lot of tax breaks that companies get that don't need it. A lot of rich people don't pay anything in taxes. Like, that's not fair either. So if you're going to go after the poor person who's running a scam, nobody should be running a scam. You've got to go after the rich people, too.

[00:43:03] And, like, that's how you start to build trust, right? That's how you start to say, well, this government's actually working. Okay. You know, and that's why I always said, like, I got in a lot of trouble because I would take on Democrats. You know, like, the student loan forgiveness. I was against that. Okay? But I would get calls from very – I got calls from very powerful Democrats. Like, show me you got guts. Take on your own party.

[00:43:28] Like, the one thing I just don't like is, like, I'm on this team and I'm going to turn my brain off and I'm just going to believe everything that they say and toe the line. Or on the other side, that's just – that's not why you're elected. You're elected to lead. You're going to take some hits, going back to the quarterback thing. Some of them are blind sides. You don't see them coming. But you take the hits because you're there to lead. That's why people put you in that office.

[00:43:52] And if you think it's just going to be, you know, everyone stroking you all the time because you got the title congressman, that's not why you're there. And if you're there for your own ego or your own mommy and daddy issues, then you need to go find another job because you're not going to be able to provide the leadership. That's why I love this – a lot of the work we're doing with unlikely majorities in the Maha group. It's like why wouldn't Democrats support the vaccine thing? I understand that may be a little bit more complicated.

[00:44:19] But when Kennedy is talking about the food piece – and I wrote this a year and a half ago. I said Democrats should be all over this. They should work with him. He's going to be the secretary of health. Food dies. He flipped the food pyramid. This is great stuff. Why wouldn't we support that? I can tell you why, because it's under Trump's presidency. That's the only reason why. If they really cared about the people, American people, they would support it. Well, they're starting to.

[00:44:47] This is – I mean, this is some of the work I'm doing now. Like Cory Booker was at the Supreme Court on the glyphosate. Shelley Pingree, Jim McGovern. There are leaders within – and I think the more that kind of step up and show some leadership. So here's an instance. Glyphosate is terrible. It's bad. But then Trump put out a post on True Social something saying, oh, it's okay, this and that. No, it's not okay. Yeah, that was bullshit. I started to do that. I didn't agree with it. Because it's not okay. It's dangerous. And you look at what they're doing.

[00:45:15] When you look at the things like what they're doing with the GMO foods, right, the fact that – and the chemicals they're spraying. They're killing the biome. You know, there's a lot of people that have done a lot of biome research. And basically the positive bacteria and fungi and everything else in the soil, they're literally crushing it. So then they have to come out with these crops that are so engineered, and they're horrible for us. Like you made one of the smartest comments of this interview when you said you can use AI to fix so much of this.

[00:45:45] You can fix the fraud, waste, and abuse. You could probably lower the medication. Because, of course, the medical industry has come to a point where I believe in a lot of ways they would rather just treat the symptoms and not treat the disease. Look at the way they fought fenbendazole, you know, and menbendazole and ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. Proven, you know, and they came out and called it horse paste. I'm like, well, I don't know. It won a Nobel Prize. I mean, at the end of the day, people were going to the horse paste because at the end of the day, they were trying to stop it from coming in. It's very inexpensive.

[00:46:12] But none of the pharmaceuticals companies want inexpensive. They want remdesivir. You know, run death is near. It didn't work. You got a guy like Fauci getting this incredible amount of funding. I'd like to stick one of those buckets on his head with the stand flies like he did to the beagles. And I'd like that to be the consequences for what he's done because I think it's horrible. I don't like the animal testing. I think it's unnecessary, especially with AI. You can plug in. I did something about a month and a half ago.

[00:46:40] Did you see the product that a guy invented that's harder than diamonds? No. Okay. So a guy makes a carbon that's harder than diamonds. They structure it, proven, they've tested it. So just for the hell of it, I take a bunch of his data and I tell Grock. I said, hey, Grock, just for a whim, I'd like to see, I want to make a product harder than this guy's product. Can you structurally reverse engineer a product that not only is harder than diamonds, but now it's much harder than what this guy created?

[00:47:08] And I called it Grockite. I said, I want you to make Grockite. And it literally, I don't know if it works. I don't know if it's anything. It literally spit out everything and said, this is what you would do. And we bond the molecule. I mean, it had the manufacturing process. Whether it works or not, I have no idea. But imagine the power of that when you apply it to health. You know, there's been proven treatments all over the globe. And I'm not giving medical advice on the show.

[00:47:32] But there are people that are putting their cancer into remission with treatments that include ivermectin, keto diets. Because it turns out that a lot of the things that happen with cancer are identical to parasites. Yeah, I've seen that. But they don't want, they got to cover that up, right? They don't want peptides. You see these people, people are buying peptides black market because you have to buy them with, what do they call it? For market research. It's not really for better. For research purposes only. Yeah, research purposes only. Correct.

[00:48:01] You know, and why should we have to struggle like that? Because the FDA doesn't want us to have it? I mean, that's the issue. Because when you have big government, you know, it was supposed to be a government of limited jurisdiction, of limited involvement, 17 specific subject matters of the Constitution. That's what it was supposed to be. But as we create these institutions, even when we recognize, hey, the Board of Education, oh, man, our grades are in the tank. Why would it take that long to defund something like that? What a waste of money. And for you, my question would be this.

[00:48:29] You see the burden of these healthier costs. You see the rest of this. How do we get this to go mainstream where you don't just because there's a president in there that you somehow have, you know, you don't like Donald Trump. You don't like George Bush. You don't like. But yet you're making decisions that impact regular families, regular Americans all over the country. And there's no common sense of what they're doing, whether it's soil health or family farms or lunches, school lunches or any of the rest of it. I just don't.

[00:48:55] It makes me literally like I think we should have a contest and I'll be the opponent. I think everybody in Congress needs a power slap. That's what I think. One of those ones that you bring from like New York to the east and west coast, because at the end of the day, I don't know how to wake them up otherwise. And I'll tell you, well, if you do something stupid, remember, you line up and we decide at the end of the week whether you get a power slap. So if you were smart all week and you showed common sense to the American public on your policies instead of acting like a bunch of childish jackasses, you don't get the power slap.

[00:49:25] I don't know how else to fix these people. Well, I think you need to build and I get excited like when I hang out with my nephews and my older kids. There's a there's a sentiment out there with with the younger folks that they're starting to get pissed. Yeah. Like this is all bullshit. You know what I mean? It's all performative. And they a lot of them were with Trump on Maha. And then they see the glyphosate. They see the war in Iran. They're like, what? What?

[00:49:54] I thought he was going to be, you know, whatever. They're like open now and they're mad. And they're they they get enough information now through the technology. And they they're they're watching videos, especially I'm working on a project now with young men from 18 to 30. I think with the right leadership, you would try to inspire these people to run for office and kick everybody out and start with new people who have new ideas, who understand AI.

[00:50:24] You know, many people in Congress probably have no freaking clue what AI's potential is. And I understand this. Typing something in the chat is completely different than doing a project. And you brought this up earlier, Tim. So in our government, our computers in the government are so antiquated and old. So if you upgraded all those systems, computer systems, even with AI, you'd probably be able to stop a lot of that corruption, the abuse of money being just sent out anywhere. The question is, will it ever get done? Yes. Will they ever do it?

[00:50:54] Yes. Yes. I mean, that's why they want the old company. That's why they want the old computers and stuff. So they want to keep the old computers in place. Exactly. I think it's intentional. Because you're smart enough, Tim, to recognize the power of AI. Because when somebody just types something in the chat, like, hey, give me a, you know, I need a recipe for sauce. It's cute. It's fun or whatever. But it's way beyond that. We're not even talking about quantum computing.

[00:51:17] Because when you start talking about autonomous agents and LLMs, and you start talking about agent swarms, and then you tie that into quantum, you're talking about a level of mental acuity that exceeds probably every brain on the planet times a thousand. Because I already see AI. The AI I was talking to in early 23 when I said, oh, this is neat, is a completely different AI. Because I created a legal agent that I trained at Harvard, Yale, Oxford.

[00:51:44] I literally took this agent, and I used deep search, and I created a project folder. That agent that I was talking to in late 23, that's like talking to my dog compared to the agent that I'm talking to now in 26. It's a completely different thing. It is so ridiculously powerful because, you know, the law is such a tricky thing, and they manipulate the law.

[00:52:05] But my question, do you think that with this current group we have in there on both sides of the aisles, is this even possible to get these idiots to get on board with somebody and say, you know, you're right. Forget Donald Trump. Stop acting like a bunch of little bitches. RFK Jr. is making some serious common sense decisions, and we've got to get behind him instead of attacking him because he's got a problem with his voice. Every time they do that to him when he sits down in Congress and they talk over him, that's when I think of power slap.

[00:52:33] I want to walk up and say, Sergeant at Arms, that's the issue of power slap. Dressed in your black jacket and black shirt with the thing in your ear. You shouldn't take advantage because he's got a disability of his voice and talk over the guy because he's got a lot of smart things he says. Well, here's the thing, like, what I think the conversation needs to be is like, okay, how are we going to deal with AI? Because it's complicated.

[00:53:03] So how are we going to regulate it? What's the intellectual property regime, legal regime that you need for something like this? Or is there one? I mean, who knows? But if you create something using AI, is it still your intellectual property? How do we build those out? That's a high-level discussion. How do we implement this in our – so that if you're in Appalachia, Ohio, you could get some really good health care. You know? And you don't have to be poor and unhealthy and then get bad grades and get locked into a bad system.

[00:53:32] You could have a good school and good health care. And guess what happens to the United States if all 330 million people get a good education and they're healthy, eating good food? All of a sudden, we light it up economically. Right? All of a sudden, you rebuild the middle class. How do we handle the data center issue? You know? I've written about, like, how do we capture the rainwater so you're not using a shitload of water to cool these things? You just keep recycling the water. How do you use geothermal? How do you use solar?

[00:54:00] How do you – you know, don't build it on an aquifer. Keep it – you know, do the people work there? Are they union? Do they make money? How does that work? That's all common sense. I mean, you're hitting it. I mean, forget about the D that you used when you were in there for 20 years. You just said exactly what's supposed to happen. You're not supposed to just blindly agree with people because they've got the D or they've got the R. You're supposed to look and say, no, that's really freaking dumb. I'm not going along with you on that. Or, hey, I love what you're saying here. I don't care if you're Republican. This is a good idea.

[00:54:31] I think we could save a bunch of money. Let's do it. But, you know, the stubbornness – and, you know, like, of course, I always believe that the Democrats do a better job in pooling together than the Republicans do, right? Because you've got – I think there's more agreement when it comes as a group. I'm not saying it's perfect, but I watch it from the outside. I think, well, at least – these guys all at least – you know, they try to use their power. I'm not saying it's for all the right reasons, just like the Republicans. But it's tough watching it from the outside. And literally the people that are in all these – you know, we're in lots and lots of rooms and lots and lots of people talking.

[00:55:00] A lot of times I just – I don't really say anything. It just comes up in my feed and I see what people are doing. They're angry. They're fucking pissed off. Yeah. They're tired of it. And they don't want to listen to bullshit. Well, leaders – here's my criticism of leadership today is that you don't – you don't pray on that. You take that energy and you lead people into a new direction. You know what I'm saying?

[00:55:29] Like we could sit here and bitch all day long about shit. There's – it's endless. Like what we could talk about, what's going good that we can take this energy – like all the AI stuff we were just talking about. All these cool ideas around how we could redo data centers, educate. That's exciting to me. That's why I got into politics.

[00:55:51] So take this energy and let's get out of the negativity and the fear and the ego and the greed and the power plays. And let's get into aspiration as to like go to the moon. I mean I just listened to the Kennedy go to the moon speech the other day. I've listened to it probably 100 times in my life. You've got to watch that thing. It is the most inspirational freaking thing. He's talking at the stadium. Yeah, and he's talking to the scientists that are there.

[00:56:21] And basically like you guys are badasses. This is what we're doing. We're going to go to the moon. Da-da-da. And I'm like, oh my god. I'm getting chills listening to him. Where is that? I want to go to the freaking moon, bro. Yeah, and I agree with you. But you know, you look at what he wanted to do. He wanted to get rid of the Federal Reserve. Probably one of the most corrupt things that we have. They print a fiat currency. It's private. Don't say it. The gold's not there. Yeah, George and I believe that there isn't any gold in Fort Knox. And somebody took it out of there at the $43 it was valued at.

[00:56:51] Or just straight smashed. Yeah, you know, believe that, Tim? The Federal Reserve values the gold there for $43 an ounce. I actually offered. Seriously, I sent an email. I offered them $100 an ounce. They can have all that profit. I'll take all their gold. They didn't respond. But how did they value it at $43? I'm shocked. In Nepal, they didn't respond, George. We were going to split that. No, we wasn't. Well, that's like a post-World War II price, right? I mean, that's... I think so. But you know... Decades ago. That's the thing.

[00:57:20] But you look at the Federal Reserve. You look at the IRS. You understand why it's in the territory of Puerto Rico versus being here in the United States. If you really understand the system, the Federal Reserve, you know, I guess I probably wouldn't be in there very long because I would probably be a hammer. But if I was President of the United States, we wouldn't have a Federal Reserve. I would go after all those institutions and all those families, and I would claw back every dollar they ever made from us. I think it's a corrupt institution. I don't think it's good for the country. But that's the issue, right?

[00:57:47] Because if we really get down to the core of what we're looking at, if you and I were, Tim, if we were sitting there because I think you're a common sense guy, I'm probably the angrier of the two of us. But if I was a common sense, I would probably say, Mr. FDA, what is this bullshit right here? Like, let's talk about this right now. No, we're getting rid of this. The peptides are coming in because I want people to be safe. I don't want a bunch of bad peptides.

[00:58:11] The peptides, because you get them so cheap at prices, that'll just take away from everything with Big Farmer. Yeah, but that's the problem I have. See, I don't like the lobbyists. That's the problem we all have. Yeah, the lobbyists, in my opinion, if you're going to take- Perfect example. Let me give them an example about lobbyists. But let me finish this. No, no, because I give them an example because I have a question. I was going to suggest NASCAR jackets, that if you take money from lobbyists or you take money from NGOs, foundations, or super PACs, and congressional members have to wear a-

[00:58:41] And it's going to have to go to the knee because, of course, you're going to have a lot of patches. And the patches are put on you based on how much money you got. So when you go to the American public, because we know we have the speech and debate clause, which allows congressional members to basically lie in Congress. We know that. It works. You can get away with it. I think they have to go to the podium with their jacket on. And just like I do, just like when I say Genesis Gold Group sponsors this show because there's laws on the books, FCC. I can't make a recommendation by a sponsor if I don't acknowledge that they're paying

[00:59:10] me to make that acknowledgement. I think they should have to do the same thing. Oh, by the way, I'm going to talk about why we need to continue to give people the jab. I'm sponsored by Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson, Moderna. And now I can tell you what I'm going to say. Because I think we need clarification because that's the tricky part about the media and Congress. A regular American doesn't know those things. So when he hears somebody in Congress, Congressman so-and-so and all the proper, you know, hit the gavel and let's make it proper.

[00:59:36] And he gets up there and he makes a statement that we all know is bullshit if you have any experience. It's an ugly thing. And then what happens is, of course, the paid media sources, which I believe they should also have to acknowledge they're getting paid and they're being funded by George Soros or anybody else. I don't care who it is. I don't think that's a disservice to the American public. That lying. I mean, I'll be honest with you. When they edited Kamala Harris's 60 Minutes. Yeah. Her interview, 60 Minutes. I would have snatched their FCC license. They're lucky I'm not the president.

[01:00:06] They would have been out of business overnight. I said, if you're going to lie to the American public, you're fucked if you got me in there. My nickname for her was Thunder Lips Harris. So here's the thing with lobbying and what's happening right now. Are you familiar with the Clarity Act? So the Clarity Act, you know, it's for crypto. So and the bankers, I guess, Drew, they're getting to the Senate Bank Committee have been fighting to get staking left out of it.

[01:00:34] And staking is you can stake your crypto and earn money off of it, which banks, you know, if banks don't want to change their ways, that's on them. But they don't want to compete with that. And I don't even know. It said it came out of committee. It's supposed to go to the fourth vote. But we still don't know what they changed in that bill. I haven't seen it. I'm waiting for them to put it up. They haven't put it up. So but. It's these. But these are the politicians that are right in this bill to either allow it or not allow it.

[01:01:04] And that, you know, that's a problem. Even because even. Well, they don't they don't want. Yeah, I mean, interest rates. The banks have been inherently terrible. I mean, 30 percent. When I heard Donald Trump said he was going to get us get people 10 percent credit card interest. I was it didn't happen for a year. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he can't force that. That's why he can't force that. I know he can't. But Congress should have jumped on board with that because every American would love to see that 30 percent interest on credit cards. And then you put money in a CD and you get one and a half percent.

[01:01:33] It's the it's the nastiest thing. And now you've got staking, which you can get these amazing amounts, which changes retirement for people. At the end of the day, there's a lot of big companies. They can pay anywhere from three, four or five up to 10 percent for staking in safe vehicles within the decentralized finance world, right in the crypto world. But you've got these bankers in a way. And again, it's that kind of stuff that I think the American people are seeing that. And they're really there's a real anger that I see. I see people talking and I'm not talking. And it's both sides.

[01:02:00] They're just angry about stuff and they're getting angrier and angry and angrier. And I I'm worried about it. I don't know what's going to happen. It's a real anger. Tim, I have a question because this just they just came live, I think, last week because you have 11 year old. Did you open up a Trump account for him? Yeah. Or no, because any kid from under 18, a parent can open for their kids that Trump savings account, which is a great thing. There's a lot a lot of like Dell.

[01:02:29] They put a lot of money into a couple of other billionaires matching matching funds, which is great because the kid will have something once they turn 18 to have these savings grow. I mean, I don't know. I'm just reminding everybody on here to that. It just went live, I think, last week. Yeah, we're saving first college. We got a fund. I wasn't able to do that for older two kids because I was in Congress. But the young one will have college taken care of. But look into that because you can open up that savings account for.

[01:03:00] Dude, I don't care whose name's on it. I'll say if I'm going to make some money off it, I'm good. Yeah. No, of course. The point is that you, through your history, I looked at a lot of stuff because, you know, we put everybody on the show. And we look at everything from a different perspective. We're pretty unique that we don't lean one way or the other. We don't blindly follow. But that's the interesting part about it.

[01:03:22] So I guess what I really want to say to you, because I know we're going to be close to running out of time with you, if you were to make a decision right now, if you could make a decision right now, what do you think the top priorities? What do we fix first? And how do we get these congressmen, other than a power slap, how do we get them to start using the word common sense instead of division and chaos? I think you need a reform agenda. First and foremost, we have to deal with the debt and deficit.

[01:03:52] Like everything else, it can absolutely undercut our economic growth moving forward. And so we have to take care of that. And then we need reform across the board. And I think, like, the president, you know, and Congress, they've got to bring these things to light. Like, you remember when Clinton got in, he had this big economic kind of conversation. It was a roundtable, and he had all the smart people there. And he actually stayed there and listened and talked.

[01:04:20] And you need one of those on AI. You need one of those on industrial agriculture and how do we rebuild the soil and have all the stakeholders there. I think you need, like, a series of these national discussions where all the people who don't trust can actually have a voice at that table or someone who represents their voice at that table. And how do we build a coalition around each of these issues to move forward? Immigration.

[01:04:47] I mean, to me, like, I don't even think there's that much for most people. There's not that big of a difference. You need to know who's in your country. You need to absolutely know who's here. And you should not get to skip the line unless there's a massive humanitarian issue. Then we understand, right? You're escaping a gang. They're murdering kids in a country. Okay. There's an exception for that. I think everybody would agree with that. But you need to know who's here.

[01:05:11] And you need a process of getting people assimilated into the country and speaking English. And this is the national language. And da-da-da-da-da-da-da. You pay back taxes. You pay fines. Let's roll. That's fixed. Done. Okay. Next one. Medicare. AI. Education. How do we reform education? AI. These other things. I love the crypto blockchain for reforming the finance, the financial system here.

[01:05:39] You know, how do we rebuild the middle class and get prices under control again for people? All of these things are absolutely doable. But it's got to be like everyone says this is broken. This sucks. We want reform. And you're not going to agree. Here's the other thing that's important. And anybody who's married understands this. You're not going to agree with me on everything. Or I'm not going to agree with you on everything. We got to be okay with that. Yeah. And you got to be okay. You got to be able to just. Here's the thing.

[01:06:08] We can disagree, but we respect each other. That's how you have a conversation. Let's go get a beer. I don't drink, but I'll take a soda or water. I'll buy you a beer. But it's true. I agree with you 100%. And that's, you know, when we look at the whole spectrum, if the whole country is the 10 points, right? Far left to far right. We're only going to really get the middle eight points because you're always going to have these extremist, crazy people on the left. You're going to have these far right, neo-Nazi, crazy racists on the far, far right. Right.

[01:06:37] So we can only really hope to get the eight points in the middle because you're going to have one group screaming at the top of their lungs about one thing and the other group. Those people aren't really winnable in their own way because they're extremists. And I see it on certain platforms. I see extremist rhetoric and things that I'm not, I don't really like. It's not what I believe the U.S. is supposed to be. I know when my grandparents came here, you know, they came here, they were one of the, they came into Ellis Island. They opened up one of the first three Italian restaurants in New York. And that's how they started. Yeah. One of the first three, it was number, it was the third Italian restaurant to be opened in New York at that time.

[01:07:07] But the point is this, what you're saying is exactly what it's supposed to be. You know, it's interesting. I would bet that when we put you on the show today, there was, you know, cause we have some hardliners that watch our show and we get, we get all kinds of people watching the show. I get comments that like you guys are just doing a show differently. I'm sure somebody's like, Oh wow. I wanted to put a Democrat on the show. What the hell are they doing? But I'll tell you what is interesting that when I sit down with anybody that, that isn't,

[01:07:33] that isn't a moron and they have any kind of love for this country and they really believe in what, what the founders and framers created the grand experiment. We agree on probably 80% of the things we want safety and security. We want our borders protected. We want low inflation. We want innovation. We want to know that we've got, you know, we're protected by the, maybe the finest military in the world. We want to have intelligent leaders, right.

[01:08:01] That make good decisions and don't waste money and maybe have a background in business or maybe, maybe leadership in the white house where they've got a background in, in, in military and, and business and the combination that they can be, be a, you know, a powerful, good leader. And the truth is that's the thing that I think what, what I look at is the nefarious operation of division and chaos that it's that we are getting groomed in our own way,

[01:08:29] just like TikTok does to the kids with these stupid challenges. They want to know that the Chinese want a low IQ populace in the United States. When I sit down with people from the other side of the aisle, we agree on most of it, but it's interesting that the media presents is if we're just rabid dogs, that we don't disagree and that we want to attack each other and we hate each other. I mean, the, the violent rhetoric, regardless of anybody thinks about Donald Trump, good

[01:08:54] or bad, the violent rhetoric of them trying to compel assassinations, because you and I both know there's a lot more assassinations of what's hitting the public. His first presidency from a guy at secret service that I know they had 25 or 28, what they believe were verified assassination attempts on Donald Trump. It's ridiculous that we even have to have that. But when you take a Congress that wants to salivate like a bunch of moronic animals, you know, and get up there and say all the wrong things. And it's not just Donald, it's not just the one aisle. It's both aisles.

[01:09:24] American public sick of it. They've had it. And I'll be honest with you. I'm a little concerned because of the rhetoric I see that people are talking about. They're, they're very, very angry. And they, and when they heard about the waste and they know that their social security, for example, you know, the Congress borrowed what? 2.7, 2.8 trillion dollars from social security. If that money was back in there, my mom could get more social security that she's living on. It's disgusting. And it shouldn't be happening. There should be consequences for those actions, but nobody wants to talk about that.

[01:09:53] They don't want to, they don't want to disclose the Epstein files. They don't want to talk about the Seth Rich laptop. They don't want to really put the truth out about 9-11, you know, because we have a lot of resources that we talk to. And there are so many lies, but they don't even want to release after all these years, the full Kennedy files. I mean, I know that because Roger Stone saw files because of course he was very close to Richard Nixon and he was writing his books. He saw more files than anybody. He couldn't talk about it. He said, there's a whole lot of stuff that I'm not seeing here that I saw.

[01:10:22] He never talked about it to discuss it. And he can't because it was all classified, but that's the point, right? It's horrible. George, I know you got a question. I don't want to. I do. First, I got a good statement for Tim because, you know, I think you'd be a great person to try to save the Democratic Party and get them back on track. I mean. I thought you liked me, George. I do. Actually, I do. Listen, I would love him giving a good life now. Why would you wish that for me? Because I'm trying to, you know, listen, they need to be saved.

[01:10:52] You're a person of, you know, you're smart. You're, you got common sense. I think you'd be a great person to do because they're just so far left that and they just keep going, going. But I know we got, we don't have a lot of time. I'm going to ask you this question. You don't have to answer. I get, I get if you don't want to answer it, but you left Congress one, 2023. Yeah. Okay. What was wrong with Biden? He'd be stuck on stage. He'd walk off and just stand there. We know there's a lot of stuff wrong, but it's a loaded question, right? You don't have to answer.

[01:11:22] He can plead the fifth. I, I was, I, I honestly, I think, I think I was probably the first Democrat to be out saying he should not run. And I got my ass kicked. I mean, I was, I was getting hammered, but I mean, I did, I was like, guys, don't you want to win? Like we should have a primary and let everybody get these governors in there that are seem to be doing some good stuff. Let them debate.

[01:11:47] And, you know, iron sharpens iron, you know, iron sharpens iron, like let's go. And, and, and then I, you know, I kept pounding it and then the debate happened. And all of a sudden I was smarter than I was like two weeks before that. But I mean, that's the kind of thing. It's like, you can't put the party before, like the party is there to bring ideas to the country. The party is not there for the existence of the party.

[01:12:17] Yeah. You know, you know, Kennedy used to say, what, what good is a great national political party if it's not used in the service of the country? That's you got your ideas that are conservative. These are liberal. We debate the ideas in the service of the country, not in the service of the party. And, and what I didn't like about the whole Biden thing too, was that everyone was saying, well, Trump's a threat to democracy, you know, all of that stuff.

[01:12:44] And he gives, he gives, you know, examples of how that could be true. But at the same time, you had Biden rigging the democratic primary, like no debates, you know, you moved it from New ham. Hold on. You moved it from New Hampshire to South Carolina, the primary, the first primary, like you completely rigged the primary for him.

[01:13:11] And then you're going to, you think you have any standing that'd be critical of, you know, saying someone else is against democracy. You just, you, Robert Kennedy's son couldn't get on the democratic debate stage. John Kennedy's nephew could not get on the democratic debate stage. Okay. You got a problem with his vaccine position. Let them go up and tell everybody what it is. Who cares? Like, let them do it. And then you criticize them and you have a debate. And if he's wrong, he's wrong. And let the people decide what they want. But, but that's common sense. That's what you want.

[01:13:41] You want to just hear the truth, but, but they've gotten so far away from the truth. They don't, it's like, they don't have the ability to tell the truth. I mean, you know, I thought there was going to be a lot of disclosures. I thought that Donald Trump would finally pull the drape back on a lot of things that we know are fact. I mean, we're getting some trips and drabs about aliens and UAPs and UFOs, but there's no doubt that there's way more of that material. You know, we know that there's way more than what they've released so far. They're dribbing and drabbing. And this is, I think, George and you and I have discussed this so many times.

[01:14:11] I don't need government to be daddy and mommy for me. I'm a grown up adult. I don't need them to filter everything and go, here comes the choo-choo. Open up a little mush banana for you. I don't need that. What I need is just honesty. I need integrity. I need morality. I don't want to hear about, I don't want to hear about, there's more than two genders. I don't care about the DEI stuff. I don't want to hear about it. Those people can live their life whatever the way they want. I don't want to cram down my kids' throats. I want inflation to be low. I don't want $5 gas.

[01:14:40] I don't want $11 eggs like they were during the pandemic. I don't want all the nefarious operations. I want the truth about everything. I want them to do just one big giant disclosure of all the lies. And let's just get it on the table and let's start from scratch, right? I mean, look, we're dealing with adults. They say, oh, I don't know. If we tell them about the little green people, it's going to be a problem. Oh, we can't tell them the truth about 9-11. I mean, building seven, there's no doubt. And I'm not going to get into conspiracies here because it's not a conspiracy.

[01:15:09] I know a lot about time demolition and using constructive demolition. I was a government contractor. I get it. That could never have happened to building seven without anything striking it. So that whole narrative. Oh, now you're going on a big rabbit hole, bro. But I'm not trying to put Tim on that spot. But my point is you can't. You know how a relationship goes bad when one person lies and the other person lies? And there's little tricks and twists and the relationship just goes off the rails. Because I've been in the middle of that. I know exactly what it is. Because that's the problem.

[01:15:38] And they just can't seem to look at themselves in the mirror and say, God, I've just been lying so much. I'm using that speech and debate clause. I'm so full of shit. I've got to stop. But they don't stop. And I'm not sure how to get them to stop. And I'm hoping that maybe there's a way. Tim, I want to say this, man. I really appreciate you coming on, first of all. Thank you so very much for the time. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Let's plug your books while you're here. And let's plug your sub stack. And let's plug your social media. This is a shameless plug, brother. Jump in there. Lay it all out.

[01:16:08] Get in there and lay it all out. Tell us what will be. I'll channel my old congressman voice here. That's shameless plugs. Yeah. I have two books. One's The Real Food Revolution, which I wrote, I think, in 2013, which was basically the Maha food agenda. Yeah. The Forwards by Dr. Mark Hyman, who's a friend of mine and the functional medicine doctor, which that's when we talk about health care, too. That's where we need to go down the functional medicine path.

[01:16:38] And the other book was A Mindful Nation. It was about the practice of mindfulness meditation that I practice. And just helps you kind of cut through. It's a lot like what we were talking about. When you sit in quiet, you can start trying to understand how your mind's working. And you realize these stories you tell yourself, just like we were talking about the stories in the country that are complete illusions, delusion, you know.

[01:17:05] But if you don't sit with yourself, you can get wrapped up around stuff, too. And that's what causes high blood pressure. And you got anxiety and road rage and all this stuff. So that's the book, A Mindful Nation. Also, I re-released it. It's called Healing America. Because I think we all have to take responsibility for our own physiology, our own temperaments and all that stuff. And then spiritual citizenship is my new sub-stack,

[01:17:34] where I'm writing about civic life with the cross-section of neuroscience, sports psychology, just fat meditation. I'm fascinated by how coaches coach kids, like especially at the collegiate level, how they discipline them, how they make them better. Like that's what our school should look like. You know what I mean? Like what are we feeding our kids in schools? It should be excellence. It should be innovation. Right.

[01:18:04] I mean, the food should be perfect. Boom. Listen, at the end of the day, they're here to replace us. We want to get replaced by the finest and the best. I mean, is that what the plan would be? Yeah. I should have said this earlier. Well, think about like George. Yes. Well, George, you were talking about like Alabama football or Ohio State football. Like here we go. I'm going to bring us together, my man. Hang on. Hang on. I'm bringing us together here.

[01:18:32] But like think about how Saban or Ryan Day or Jim Trestle or whoever, like how they take a kid that's 18 years old and turn them into a freaking man. You know? And the study tables and the food that they eat and the training that they get and how they work in a team and how they next play mentality. You made a mistake. Like, so what? Move on. You hear Calipari. You hear these guys.

[01:19:01] Rick Pitino, that great clip of him, you know, coaching his kids up in the St. John's in the locker room. You know, you miss a shot. Who cares? Get back on defense. Like that's what we need in our education system. Make freaking Rick Pitino the secretary of education. You know, Nick Saban, you're the secretary of education, bro. One more trip for the country. But that's my point is like, and you used a great word, excellence. Yeah.

[01:19:28] That's an ancient, stoic, like that was the goal. Personal excellence. Correct. You know? And that should be the standard. And let's talk about how we get there, you know? And so that's what spiritual citizenship is all about, like elevating these conversations to a higher level, deeper level and a higher level so that we can actually start solving these problems. And, you know, you got to love each other and care about each other. You know? You know?

[01:19:57] Like we can't focus on all our negatives. We got to see what's best in each other. So you brought up college and I think they need a commissioner for NIL because I think it's sending these kids in the wrong direction. My belief is they should get some money because they're going through school. They're so dedicated in their sports program. They can't get jobs or nothing. And they need money to live on.

[01:20:21] Where I, one of the things I don't like is, is you sign, if you sign to go to a school through a scholarship, they should stay at that school. So there's all this try to trade and leave and this and that. I think it's ruining, ruining the sports somewhat. And it teaches kids to be responsible. Look, you sign a contract, you abide to it. Or, you know. Yeah. We'll see. I don't know. I would give them, I would, I would give, I'd give them one transfer. You know? I mean, everybody makes a mistake.

[01:20:50] Everybody makes a bad decision. Things don't work out. A coach leaves, whatever, whatever. You get one. All right, one transfer. But are they eligible that year or they got to wait to play? I don't know. I'll figure it out. Doesn't matter to me. But, like, you get one out, you know? Yeah. But I think you're right. You can't be going four different schools in four years. Bouncing, bouncing. It's a bad. And then there should be some. I don't know if they have this already or not.

[01:21:12] But if a kid gets all this money in college, there should be some kind of money manager helping or assist them so they don't just blow that money. You don't want to invite them? Well, they're doing that now. Are they? Okay. Yeah. I didn't know. A lot of these schools are setting up, like, I don't want to say a department, but, like, financial planning for these kids and showing them they can be set the rest of their lives even if they never go to the pros. And, you know, no doubt. And they deserve it.

[01:21:42] They're putting in a lot of hard work. I think it always matters. Tim, where do we find your social media? Give us our ex. Give us wherever you're at. Oh, yeah. At Tim Ryan, I think, is my ex. You think? You handle your ex account or you got somebody doing it for you? You got people doing it for you? No, I do it. I mean, I have an assistant that every now and again I'll say, hey, just post this. But I usually do 98% of it. We'll follow you from your accounts. We've got some pretty decent accounts over on ex. Cool. Is your handle Tim Ryan on ex or what's the handle? Yeah. Yeah. At Tim Ryan.

[01:22:12] Just Tim Ryan? Yeah. Let's see. If I put congressman on there, no one would follow me. George. That's it. I can't do that. Is there a picture of you with your kids with the hats on? Is that you? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's me. Oh, it doesn't say former congressman or not, huh? Leave that. No. We leave that. We leave that. He's trying to hide that. You know what? We want Tim to be able to walk down the street where this is heading. I don't know if that's going to be going like that.

[01:22:39] I just sent you a follow because I take a lot of short-form content and I'll tag you on it so you get it and you see it. Yeah, please do. The big ming show and for my personal account, Lance. I don't even know what we've got now. We've got a pretty awesome account. I'll follow you guys, too. We've got to bring you back on just to do like, when you have time, bring you back on. Just go over whatever that day's politics or the day before. Come on. Yeah. It's good to have other people's insight. And like I said, as long as everybody's respectful, we have fun. Look, I like you. Where are you guys at?

[01:23:09] Are you in New York? I'm in North New Jersey right by New York City. Yeah. I'm living in the socialist state of Colorado currently. Ohio. So not so great. Where are you at? The socialist state of Denver, you know, with Colorado. Denver's a city, bro. Colorado. Denver's a great town. Denver's a great town. I love Colorado. I don't like the politics here. Not because it's the Democrat side. It's just that I see a lot of non-common sense.

[01:23:36] This city could be just incredible if they would just get their shit together. And it's horrible what they've done. I think Jenna Griswold is a horrible, horrible person. I really do. It's got not only just Tina Peters. I've just heard a lot of stories. I'm not a big, you know, Polish fan. There's just a lot of people here who met regardless of Democrat or Republican. I don't think they have the best interests of the Colorado state people. I just don't think they do. Hey, Tim, so listen, first of all, thank you very much. Great interview. Great having you on the show. Thank you. Great perspective. Thanks, guys. All right.

[01:24:05] If you guys like the show, you know the drill. Thumbs up, comment, share, hit a subscription button on the way out. Maybe a Rumble Rant tip, 10, 20, 30 bucks, whatever you want to throw us. And of course, follow us on social media. Follow Tim Ryan, George Ballantyne, Lance Migliaccio, and The Big Mig Show. Catch us here Monday through Friday, 11 a.m. Eastern Standard. You know how we do it. Going after everybody, trying to bring you the truth. We'll see you guys tomorrow morning. Thank you. Last word. Tim, thank you so much for coming on. I'd like to get you on again, just to do a roundtable.

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