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All men are. Created equal, but they are
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endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, by
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liberty. If liberty means anything at
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all, it means right to tell people what they do not want to
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hear. Make America great again.
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All right, welcome back to the Big Make Show.
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Here we host George Ballantine. Lance Migliacho is with me.
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He just got on. If y'all give me a second, I'm
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going to bring him in. Take me like 2 seconds.
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He must have got hit by the CIA or something.
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They didn't want him talking today so they shot something.
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A bullet to his system. Here he is.
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Hey apologize for being late guys.
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My computer had to reboot it and it was being.
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Acting. Don't worry about CIA bro.
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Yeah, listen, it happens. Whatever.
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You know how it is with the tech anyway.
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So welcome back to the big big show.
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Of course, I'm your host, Lance Miliantzo with George B.
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Here he is rise and grind, tip of the spear, doing what we do.
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Of course this is a truth telling show.
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We try to do all the research. You don't have to bring you the
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right guests and the rest of it. George, how are you man?
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How are you this? Oh, I'm good.
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I've been watching the clown clown show hearings all morning
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with Tim Waltz and Keith Ellison.
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You know, just more waste of time and money as they just, you
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know, banter back and forth and, you know, no consequences,
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nothing gets done. Waste of time.
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Then we have, you know, Iran getting bombed to hell.
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The one of our one of our submarines sank one of their
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ships with a with a torpedo and that hasn't been done since
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World War 2. I talk about making headway.
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Yeah, I saw, I saw that this morning.
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There's a lot going on, you know, and it's it's funny, the
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news cycles are so full of phony stuff.
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Guys, be careful out there. Don't get sucked into any of
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these videos. A lot of game footage is being
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repurposed with AI. They're putting out a lot of
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false narratives, so watch what you're assuming is truth.
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I'm not even sure what to believe on some of it.
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You know, we heard some stuff from Colonel McGregor last
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night. He was talking to Matt Gaetz and
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said that a lot of our bases have been destroyed.
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We haven't seen that in the news.
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I don't know if it's true. A lot of our bases.
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Yeah, Colonel McGregor was on Matt Gaetz destroyed.
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Yeah. Not destroyed.
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I mean, they hit in Qatar the base.
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I'm going off just what I heard of the show.
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I don't care what? Yeah, I'm just telling you what
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I know. McGregor's sources, But he does
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have some pretty good sources you.
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Know he's been wrong too. He's a great guy, but he's been
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wrong too. But no, our base has not been
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destroyed. It was hit in a one in Qatar,
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but it's not destroyed. No, no lie.
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Nobody was injured or nothing. CI State CIA stationed in South
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in Saudi Arabia was stung. Off of what McGregor says, he
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still got contacts within the military.
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He made a comment that seemed pretty on on, you know, I
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watched the interview, got to tell you.
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I'm just going to say that it's possible.
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I don't know what they're covering up.
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There's a lot of news that I don't think is true right now.
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This was last night. Last night, Yeah.
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So can I find a clip? If you want to change.
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It comes over through the channels.
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No, I don't want to check it out.
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But you know, as much as people, their credibility, I love
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Colonel McGregor. I think he's a very credible
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guy. Sometimes people go on shows,
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you know, like Matt Gates. They, they, you know, they, they
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embellish a little in order to get clicks and views and stuff.
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So bass is not destroyed. But anyway, my uncle, I'll tell
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you what, my uncle isn't guitar. The bass is not destroyed.
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I, I didn't say guitar. What I said was bases.
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He actually indicated that several bases had been attacked
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and that they were not operational at this time and
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that they were using India as a jump point.
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Now, whether it's true or not, I have no idea.
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Again, like that's what I was bringing up.
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I was just trying to say that there's a lot of stuff right now
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that you have to really wonder what's true and what isn't.
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I don't know. I saw a lot of stuff last night
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that I validated that wasn't true and it sure looked
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legitimate when they posted it. I don't know, we'll have to see.
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We'll keep an eye on it for you guys, of course.
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You have to get it out. You got a great, a great guest
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for you guys today. You know, you, you've seen us
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cover lots of stuff when it comes to the pandemic.
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We've had a lot of great guests on over the years.
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Some of us got us suspended at different times on YouTube and
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otherwise. So, you know, we always try to
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bring you what we believe are the legitimate sources and
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facts. And today we're joined by Doctor
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Joseph Sansone. He's a psychotherapist opposed
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to psychopathic authoritarianism and writes A newsletter to host
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a podcast called Mind Matters and everything else on his
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website. Got a great sub stack over at
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josephsansone.com. And he's no stranger to the
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America first moved. Of course, Joseph was a chairman
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in one of Patrick J Buchanan's presidential campaigns, received
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a written endorsement to run for public office from Mr. Buchanan.
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Dr. Sisone has been litigating for the past couple of years to
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try and stop Governor Ron DeSantis from continuing to
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facilitate mRNA in the state of Florida as they are biological
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and technological weapons of mass destruction.
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We've talked about it on the show over and over again.
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We've had all the the experts. You guys know it.
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Doctor Sansone's going to be testifying in the Netherlands in
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a civil case against Bill Gates and others.
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We've talked about that. For some reason, Bill Gates
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thinks he's a medical expert with no medical experience.
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He wants to decide what you're going to eat, when you're going
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to eat it, and how you're going to get vaccinated.
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He wants to put it in our food. You name it.
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He's not the only one. No reason to leave Doctor
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Sansone backstage. Let's get him in.
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Let's get him in. Welcome to the big, big show,
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Doctor Sansone. Eyes on.
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Hey, how you doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Thanks for joining us today. First of all, I want to
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apologize for being late. My computer was being stubborn
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on the reboot. I had a problem with my audio
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so. I apologize.
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You're good. You're good.
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To prep you a little bit. Listen, you know, we've had a
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lot of people on, on this show that we've, you know, and we, we
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were lucky, but I think we were very fortunate that George and I
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never got vaccinated. We realized very early on that
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the mRNA vaccine was dangerous. We've had on Doctor Malone, Judy
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Mikeritz, Peter McCullough, you, you name it, we've had him on
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the show. And when I got the opportunity
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to have you come on, I was extremely interested in what
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you've been doing, you know, over this entire time period.
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You seem like you'd be fighting like crazy.
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But I like to start off with our guests and always ask him.
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You know, George and I weren't really political guys.
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And we were on Twitter posting and started to put a lot of true
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stuff out. I, you know, I recognize there
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was a lot of things that didn't seem right.
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Didn't take long for us to get suspended right after Donald
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Trump. They came right after George and
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I, minute and 46 seconds for me and George shortly thereafter.
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You know, my question is, what kind of triggered you?
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I don't know if this was always an area of interest for you or
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not, but let's maybe give some people a little more background
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than what I gave them in your bio.
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Well, I guess because I was involved in the, you know, the
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Buchanan America First movement in the 90s, I was pretty much
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awake since 1991. Buchanan was like the first guy
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to openly campaign against the New World Order back then when
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he challenged George HW Bush in the Republican primary back
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then. And he ran three times.
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But so when when when 911 happened, like, I kind of pretty
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quickly figured out that was an inside job and a false flag.
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So when COVID was coming down the line, it was just an easy
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play. It was the same playbook.
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They just want to make the whole country the airport.
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And and so that alone had me realizing it was, you know,
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something was up here and, you know, because a lot of the stuff
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we had talked about, you know, decades or two earlier and all
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of a sudden you see the stuff coming, kind of coming to
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fruition. I mean, not the specifics of the
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vaccine, although there were people out there, you know, even
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as early as 2009, like Doctor Remolebo talking about how
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they're going to hit us with a vaccine bioweapon.
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But I mean, so yeah, I think and I and we, because I've had
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conversations about this, why were some people awake and other
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people weren't? Why did.
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And the best I've come down to is it's something, you know,
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because I mean, I am a therapist.
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So it's something in it's something in your experience
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caused you to question things in your prior life experience.
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And I joke around saying like the honor roll students are not
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the ones that are going to save the world just to reform
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juvenile delinquents because they don't respect authority to
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the degree, you know, if you're, if you're, and here's why a lot
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of doctors got conned. You know, if you're, you're a
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high IQ doctor, you know, you've gone through your whole life
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getting those little stars when you're a little kid, getting all
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these little achievement awards. And you know, a lot of it's ego
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inflation. It's easily to manipulate them
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because of their over reliance under intelligence.
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And so it's like somebody who's over relying on their
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appearance. It's I mean, it's OK to look
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feel good about how you look, but if your whole identity is
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wrapped up in your appearance, you're kind of screwed.
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It's the same thing with your intelligence because you're
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easily manipulated. And so they trust the authority
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that was that gave them good lives basically.
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So I think that's a big part of why a lot of people got conned.
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You know, they're making money. It's just eats a lot of
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yourself. I think the lie was really easy
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to see. I mean, I do specialize in
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clinical hypnosis, so I'm kind of aware of the mass media
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manipulation maybe a little quicker than the average bear.
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But I think I thought it was obvious, but even to validate
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like what I had thought the late Doctor Francis Boyle, who we're
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going to talk about a little bit.
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He was the law professor that lobbied for and drafted the
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Biological Weapons and Anti Terrorism Act of 1989.
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And he came out on Hervoria Morik's podcast and then later
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on Infowars in January of 2020 saying that COVID itself was in
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fact a a bioweapon. And then a lot of people don't
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realize it. The, and by December of 2020,
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Doctor Francis Boyle was out there doing interviews stating
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clearly that the COVID injections were also bio
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weapons. And, and, and this is important
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for people to realize because because he gave me an affidavit
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in my case here in Florida as well.
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But you know, his expert legal opinion is not just an expert
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legal opinion, It's legislative intent because he wrote the law
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and the fact that the brakes didn't go on there, this is
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before the rollout, basically, it's in December of 2020.
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And and the fact that it the brakes weren't put on them is
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amazing. And there's just a lot of
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censorship about it. But look, a lot of people know
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that this is a bio weapon. They're just afraid to say it.
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And, and whether it's, you know, most of our politicians are
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either coward, corrupt or out of touch.
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Most of them might say are carried or corrupt at this point
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because it's hard to be out of touch.
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But some of them are still. But if I know it, they know it.
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You know it. They know it.
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And so, yeah, I mean, so that's kind of a long answer to I think
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I answered your question there. Yeah, I think you did.
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You know, it always takes a certain trigger moments.
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You know, it's different for everyone, but you know, the
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diffs information industrial complex, you know that that the
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way they're able to campaign so successfully, they've done a
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really good job. They've you know, they've
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they've hit a lot of the narratives over the years.
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I don't think they counted on. I think the Internet was
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supposed to be a different tool for them.
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I don't think they counted on the amount of truth that was
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coming out. I think they've tried to cope
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with it. They they do a pretty good job
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with bots. They do a pretty good job with
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discrediting people, attacking people, suiciding people.
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There's lots of ways they they silence people.
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But it's interesting, you know, we were lucky enough to get it
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connected with the right people very early.
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But you were, it was shocking when I tried to, you know, send
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people links to different, you know, medical experts, real
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doctors, they were more willing to bring up, you know, somebody
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like Bill Gates or somebody else, you know, the the CEO of
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Pfizer or maybe some other government official that was
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supposedly, hey, you've got to get the vaccine and you'll get
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some free French fries if you do.
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And we'll give you a free Donuts.
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And, you know, this is what's going to protect you.
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And, and more and more information was coming out.
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And of course, those people got brutally attacked.
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Dr. Still Emanuel, they tried to take her medical license and
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there was just so many of them. And you know, George and I were
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kind of on the forefront of all of it, putting out as much as we
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could. But the more you did it, the
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more you got suppressed. And even George put something
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out the other day on TikTok and got suspended.
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George, what was that you put out the other day?
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I can't remember what it was, but you put something out, that
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was it. Was like A and.
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They just suspended. You, it was like a month now.
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It was talking about the FBI raid in Georgia, about the
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election materials and stuff, and then talking about what was
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exposed in hearings and, you know, trials over there within
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the election system. You know the state board, you
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know, they, they did their deep dive talking, just talking about
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it and boom, they knew all the censorship.
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Interesting. Let me let me make a statement
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here for you Joe and then I'll let you take it from there.
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I just, it's interesting that everybody was boasting about,
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you know, Oh yeah, Tik Tok's going to be covered by the US.
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Don't worry about it. The suppression won't be there
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and you won't find any more suppression on YouTube.
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We're going to do this. They finally gave us our channel
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back on YouTube, but they're not our channel.
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They get let us reopen a channel, never giving it back to
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the original. And a lot of it had to do with
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us talking about CDC and Vera's information, which, which is
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supposed to be accurate. I'm not saying it is by any
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means. I don't think it is, but you
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know, let me ask you, as you started to go down this, did you
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feel personal attacks that were the things that happened to you
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along the along maybe even now, but I guess in the beginning,
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did they come after you right away when you came out so
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actively? Well, I guess, you know, I don't
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really even things kind of just bounce right off me, but I guess
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so I did have the cable line to my house cut and I was receiving
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death threats early on. What I so I started in May of
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2020. I guess I can give you a little
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of the background. So I started in May of 2021.
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I like like a lot of people, I'm walking around seeing people
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wearing face masks, falling a little lines on the floor to
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face diapers, the whole thing. And I mean, we had a lockdown
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here in Florida for maybe four months or so.
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And I'm just walking every day in the Publix like the only guy
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without a mask. And you know, once in a while
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I'd see another guy without a mask and I literally would be
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like, hey, normal guy, how you doing?
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They'd laugh and keep walking on because I just wasn't going to
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bend. And you know, Florida, it's a
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concealed carry state. So I was ready to defend myself
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as someone tried to force a mask on me.
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And so, yeah, it was just weird being in this kind of Twilight
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Zone reality. And so I started working like
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May of 2021. And what I was doing is we
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worked and we we worked to replace our board at our county
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Republican Party. And, and I and, and I got it
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done like in a small window of time because the new people that
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came in flipped real quick, but they couldn't do anything at our
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first meeting. So it took 18 months.
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And basically in February of 2023, I got what I called the
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bandit jab resolution passed. It made national news briefly
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and that's what I was getting the death threats and
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everything. But then it got blacked out
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because they, they was like, they started using the 1990s
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playbook and they're like, oh, wait, we don't do that anymore.
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We'll just cancel this. So, but the resolution was, it
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was official resolution by the county party declaring the COVID
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injections to be biological and technological weapons of mass
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destruction and called on the governor of the state of Florida
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and the attorney general to act and enforce our, our law, which
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is in our case here in Florida, it would be Florida statute
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790, which is our weapons of mass destruction law.
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And so, and I got that passed in like 10 counties in Florida, 10
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county parties in Florida, counties across the country, and
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eventually the Idaho Republican Party.
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And then even I reached out to Dan Schultz from precinct
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strategy and we got the Arizona Republican Party to pass the
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resolution. But what happened here in
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Florida is the, the party kind of put a stop to it like they
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weren't allowing, they're pressuring the county chairs not
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to allow to resolution to come up.
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We get a lot of resistance here, a lot of ignorant resistance.
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Listen, a lot of people on the liberty side of the aisle were
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kind of confused cuz they were having them thinking it's a
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choice. And it's like, dude, there's no
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choice on getting a bio weapon. That's like saying you have a
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choice to get raped. I mean, so anyway, So what
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happened then is on March of 2024, I filed what was called.
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But I mean, those resolutions had an impact, especially here
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in Florida because it gave the surgeon general a little cover
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to come out. And the Florida Department of
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Health called for a halt to the injections and, you know, even
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said that they're a threat, potential threat to the human
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genome, which means our species. So in March of 23, I filed what
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was called a writ of mandamus. And that literally means weak.
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That means weak command. I'm sorry.
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Go ahead. No, no, I'm familiar with that.
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I'm. Familiar with that?
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OK. And that I reached out to Karen
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Kingston, got all, you know, she let me use her research and I
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had a really good information in there.
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But Long story short, there that was an attempt to force the
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governor, attorney general to enforce the law.
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But Long story short there, there's kind of niche case law
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with Mae Davises. So the court said you can only
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use it for what's called a ministerial duty.
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That's like the governor's got to appoint somebody in 60 days
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or sometimes you can use it with the courts if they're not
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carrying out the duties. So then I lost the appeal on
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that. I did find cases though saying
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that if there's an abuse of discretionary duty, you know,
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you can use the rid of Maine Damus.
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And I'm arguing if you're allowing them to hit us with bio
00:18:33
weapons, it's a but you're the teleport.
00:18:36
Is unequivocally that you will find the judiciary and whether
00:18:40
or not you're, you know, if you're facing a defence council
00:18:42
or Department of Justice prosecutor, they will manipulate
00:18:46
and they will act as though a legal document like a writ of
00:18:49
mandamus or writ of Coram Novus or some other document.
00:18:52
They will claim that procedurally that wasn't the
00:18:55
right way to do this or that that.
00:18:57
And that's one of their first steps.
00:18:58
They try to block you procedurally.
00:19:00
They'll often, and I've been doing a lot of work with AI and
00:19:03
kind of analyzing different, I guess, rulings, judgments,
00:19:09
emotions by prosecutors and they manipulate and and falsify the
00:19:13
law constantly. The Redman Damus would have been
00:19:15
perfectly, in my opinion, acceptable for what you used it
00:19:17
for. But that's the first thing.
00:19:19
Try to block your procedurally, try to time bar you try to say
00:19:22
you made an error you didn't file on time.
00:19:24
And and then they, of course, they'll never really focus on
00:19:27
the facts because if they focus on the facts, they would get
00:19:29
beat, you know, most of the time.
00:19:31
But their best thing is just to avoid the facts, you know, And
00:19:34
that's kind of, you know, when I look at the, you know, if you
00:19:36
put a lens on power and you have a lot of clinical training
00:19:39
correct in mental health. Therapist.
00:19:41
Not a I'm not a medical doctor, but yeah.
00:19:43
Yeah. So how do you know you have to
00:19:45
look at diagnosing? I think it's they call it
00:19:47
psychopathic authoritarianism. And I'm.
00:19:50
You know, that's my, I'm, I'm actually, I've written a book.
00:19:53
I haven't published it yet because I'm editing, but I, it's
00:19:55
called psychopathic authoritarianism, a diseases of
00:19:58
the soul. So I I call it PAD Psychopathic
00:20:01
authoritarian disorder. Yeah.
00:20:03
So it's it's very contagious. It's going to.
00:20:05
Global institutions, let's kind of take the audience through
00:20:08
that, kind of explain them right on this stuff you said.
00:20:11
Let's talk about how that applies in the way the
00:20:12
governments and global institutions might use it
00:20:15
against the populace, specifically like a case like
00:20:18
COVID. Oh, she's like, I'm giving
00:20:20
spoilers for it'll be in my book.
00:20:22
OK, So what they what I do want to cycle back to, I do want to
00:20:26
cycle back to my case too, because I have actually beat I
00:20:29
did actually beat them on an appeal already.
00:20:31
So, but what I argue is, is that some of these characteristics we
00:20:37
all kind of possessed, one of them is sadism.
00:20:42
It's like, I would say, the worst human quality anybody can
00:20:45
possess. It's like taking pleasure in the
00:20:46
pain of someone else. And, you know, in its benign
00:20:49
forms, we've got like, you know, the slapstick humor, like the
00:20:53
Three Stooges, Someone slips and falls on the snow.
00:20:56
You kind of chuckle. Then you see your friends OK,
00:20:58
you know, and you, you laugh, you know, when you know they're
00:21:00
OK, that kind of thing. It gets a little worse when you
00:21:02
get into the gossip kind of stuff.
00:21:04
It gets a little more a little more abusive.
00:21:06
But you put someone in that gatekeeper role, like at motor
00:21:10
vehicles or something like that, all of a sudden they go into
00:21:12
power trip. And so it's that sadism and they
00:21:15
tapped into it. They tapped into the everyday
00:21:17
sadism of the average person. Obviously, there's a lot of fear
00:21:21
too, but they tapped into that sadism.
00:21:23
So the leaders have this sadistic quality because they
00:21:26
know what they did. They know what they did not just
00:21:29
was psychologically tormented to people, but they know that
00:21:31
they've given people something that's going to cause chronic
00:21:34
diseases and illnesses as we move into the future.
00:21:37
Now, most people, you know, are going to die from these shots.
00:21:39
They're going to have a shortened lifespan.
00:21:40
I'm not saying they're going to die tomorrow, but you know, I
00:21:43
have a heart condition. I'm not going to live as long as
00:21:44
I would if I didn't. And so you have identical twins.
00:21:47
You give one of them asthma, they're not going to live as
00:21:49
long, right? So they tapped into that
00:21:52
everyday sadism. The sadistic quality is present
00:21:55
in the leaders. You see it, they want to mock
00:21:57
and humiliate you. They tapped into the everyday
00:21:59
narcissism as well. And you got different types of
00:22:01
narcissism. You got that communal narcissism
00:22:05
and that's where you need the recognition.
00:22:06
That's where you sort of virtue signaling with the people like
00:22:09
posting the pictures themselves with the mask on social media or
00:22:13
or getting their injections and that kind of thing.
00:22:15
Then you've got that kind of collective narcissism, which
00:22:18
gets a little a little more abusive.
00:22:22
That's the US versus them thing. You see it with the war and that
00:22:25
kind of thing. So you saw that a lot of that
00:22:27
with COVID. You know, you saw the, you know,
00:22:29
the little, the couple, the young couple walking along the
00:22:32
park or the beach. And then you saw the soccer
00:22:33
moms, you know, with their masks chasing them because they
00:22:35
weren't wearing a mask or something like that.
00:22:37
So I think they tapped into the everyday narcissism as well and
00:22:42
so on. So it's there a lot of these
00:22:44
qualities, these the, the leaders possessed either
00:22:47
grandiose narcissistic qualities or malignant narcissistic
00:22:52
qualities. And and so it's like those types
00:22:55
of narcissists were manipulating the other type of narcissist a
00:22:58
little bit there. And obviously, fear was a big
00:23:02
factor here. They terrified people.
00:23:05
And I tell people, look, fear is a false God.
00:23:08
It does not protect you in any way.
00:23:10
You know, you could worry about stuff and it's like you're
00:23:12
giving offerings like to this false God.
00:23:15
It's not going to protect you. You know, unless you're getting
00:23:17
chased by the tiger and you got you're in fight or flight most
00:23:20
of the time. Fear does not in any way protect
00:23:22
you. So yeah, you've got these kind
00:23:24
of collective forces and the, look, the mass media hypnosis
00:23:28
that really gets underestimated by people, just the normal
00:23:31
straightforward power suggesting constantly barraging people.
00:23:35
We had a whole phony presidential election where in
00:23:38
the presidential debates, 1 DeSantis lied and said he didn't
00:23:42
do a lockdown and nobody even called them out on it.
00:23:44
I mean, if it were real, they would have called them out on
00:23:46
it. 2 Nobody even brought up how deadly these shots were.
00:23:50
So that in itself is an indirect hypnotic suggestion that it's
00:23:53
not an issue. And that's why early on I
00:23:57
decided the reason we're not winning right now and the reason
00:24:00
we haven't won is because other people are afraid to say it's a
00:24:04
bio weapon. That's actually the winning
00:24:06
argument. And that's why anybody that does
00:24:08
take so much Flack because they can't look at the evidence.
00:24:11
And so because people are afraid of being cancelled, afraid of
00:24:13
looking stupid, that kind of thing, that's why we're losing.
00:24:16
Because early on I realized if you're debating whether you can
00:24:20
mandate A bioweapon or not, there's an indirect hypnotic
00:24:25
suggestion there, an Arik Sonian hypnotic suggestion that it's OK
00:24:28
to target us with weapons of mass destruction.
00:24:31
Look, and I got news for you. You cannot be America first and
00:24:35
look the other way while your friends and neighbors, while
00:24:38
Americans are being targeted with biological and
00:24:40
technological weapons of mass destruction.
00:24:43
I call total and complete bullshit on that.
00:24:46
And there's, and there's no doubt that you're right, they've
00:24:48
done a powerful job. I catch myself even, you know,
00:24:52
when, when we're streaming to YouTube and we didn't stream to
00:24:54
YouTube today, I catch myself making those kind of decisions
00:24:57
that I would never normally make because of the manipulation.
00:25:00
Of course, we're trying to keep a truth message out there.
00:25:03
We're trying to get lots of exposure, but you catch yourself
00:25:06
holding back at certain times because you've already been
00:25:09
penalized. So it's kind of like Pavlov's
00:25:11
dog. Of course, they ring the dinner
00:25:12
bell. We all start to salivate and
00:25:14
that's the issue with so many of the people that have been
00:25:18
fighting this from the get go because you've still got an
00:25:20
administration that doesn't want to take, you know, ownership in
00:25:23
any manner of what probably really happened.
00:25:26
We've seen the funding of the Wuhan labs.
00:25:28
We know that Fauci was knee deep.
00:25:30
You know, he became fabulously wealthy during COVID for a
00:25:33
number of reasons. The World Health Organization,
00:25:36
not a fan, you know, FDA, there's all these groups that
00:25:40
are involved that that continue to ply Americans with bad
00:25:44
choices, whether it's nutritionally, whether it's
00:25:47
through vaccines. We covered, you know, a project,
00:25:50
I don't know if you're familiar with it, Operation Artichoke,
00:25:52
which was really originally called Operation Bluebird, which
00:25:55
ran a kind of before in parallel with MK Ultra.
00:25:59
But their plot was to use everything including vaccines to
00:26:04
weaponize individuals in the kind of Manchurian candidate
00:26:07
style assassins. This was ACIA program.
00:26:09
It's been, it's been declassified.
00:26:12
A lot of the information's out. I don't think all of it's out.
00:26:15
But just thinking that that the CIA, if you look at Operation
00:26:18
Sea spray, what they did in San Francisco where they where they
00:26:22
sprayed communities aerosol, released, you know, toxins to
00:26:28
see how well how successful they've been.
00:26:30
They used against prisoners. They used it against, you know,
00:26:34
military, they went in and, and, and made these decisions to
00:26:37
practice medical programming and all sorts of things because
00:26:41
those people are, you know, of course the prisoners were easy.
00:26:42
They were captured. They can control their food,
00:26:44
they can control their medical, they control their environment.
00:26:47
But it's, you know, it's pretty horrendous.
00:26:48
And I, I agree with you. The, you know, the, the
00:26:50
administration has yet to admit that maybe COVID wasn't what
00:26:54
they thought. Donald Trump seems unwilling to
00:26:56
embrace that and admit that he was ill advised.
00:26:59
I think a lot of it was advisement.
00:27:00
I think there's still people around Donald Trump that are ill
00:27:02
advising him. Again, I'm not trying to release
00:27:05
him of any responsibility, but you know, it becomes, you know,
00:27:08
it's not like a mass psychological manipulation where
00:27:11
you know, the, the government, I'm I'm the government and I'm
00:27:13
here to help some of the most dangerous words you ever hear.
00:27:17
Let's talk about mRNA. Let's talk about the biological,
00:27:21
technological portion of it. You, you've done a really deep
00:27:23
dive. You've spent a lot of time, you
00:27:26
know, Doctor Francis Boyle's legal analysis, who, of course,
00:27:30
wrote the US biological weapons law.
00:27:33
He was the one that did it. And you classify the shots as
00:27:36
weapons of mass destruction. Let's talk about what you
00:27:39
discovered while you're on this path and really share with the
00:27:41
audience maybe some of the worst things you found out about the
00:27:44
vaccine. Sure.
00:27:47
And I actually wrote an article recently about Doctor Francis
00:27:50
Boyle's like an overview of his legal view, which is very
00:27:53
detailed. So I can give you kind of a
00:27:54
quick overview of what his legal perspective was.
00:27:57
But you know, there's a lot of arguments about why these are
00:28:01
biological weapons. So these are just his main core
00:28:04
arguments. But you can look into the
00:28:06
patents and the dual use technology.
00:28:08
And you know, you know, one of my colleagues, Dr. And
00:28:11
Mahalchi's done a lot of research with the dark field
00:28:13
microscopy, looking at like the nanotech and that kind of thing,
00:28:16
a lot about the shedding. But.
00:28:18
Yeah, it's, there's a lot there, but Doctor Boyle's arguments,
00:28:23
his core arguments were basically the number one.
00:28:28
The he had 44 core arguments that I kind of reflect that he's
00:28:32
saying ironically, I didn't really use these in my case,
00:28:35
only one of them. But what he's saying is that the
00:28:41
quote UN quote virus was an illegal gain of function by a
00:28:45
weapon, offensive weapon of bio warfare because at the time
00:28:49
there's a moratorium on it and they used illegal get outsourced
00:28:52
and did illegal gain of function research on it.
00:28:55
And there's a paper in 2015 that he cites.
00:28:57
I linked to it in that article, but it's like coronavirus bats
00:29:00
something or other. And he cites his paper in 2015
00:29:04
because it incriminates Walensky Fauci, you know, everybody at
00:29:07
NIH and FDA, because they basically admit that that they
00:29:13
did a legal gain of function research on the COVID virus,
00:29:15
SARS, COV 2, whatever it's called.
00:29:17
But and because of that, they strengthened it basically.
00:29:23
And and that's not for peaceful purposes.
00:29:25
And therefore that makes it a bio weapon.
00:29:28
It's not for prophylactic purposes.
00:29:30
You're strengthening it. That is not for peaceful
00:29:32
purposes, and so that gain of function research made the virus
00:29:36
a biological. Reason to ever strengthen a
00:29:39
virus that somehow I'm missing. I mean, a virus, a serious
00:29:42
virus. I wouldn't care if you can talk
00:29:43
about Ebola, talking to monkey pox, you're talking about, you
00:29:46
know, the COVID. Is there any reason with these
00:29:48
kind of viruses that they should ever be strengthened like that?
00:29:51
Because there's lots of research that seems to point to the fact
00:29:54
that they are doing it. And I myself, I'm trying to
00:29:56
figure out MRMR Natalie, when you talk about COVID it, we
00:30:00
never had that bat crossover. It never went into humans.
00:30:03
It never made that jump up until it was weaponized.
00:30:07
I just can't see why this kind of, you know, this kind of
00:30:10
research or development is even allowed anywhere.
00:30:14
Because why would anybody want to have a change?
00:30:15
Because of course we all, I mean, there's a lab link.
00:30:18
Maybe it was intentional. We don't really know the facts.
00:30:21
Well, Lance, it's really not. I mean, it does violate the
00:30:23
Biological Weapons Convention. I mean, that's what because
00:30:27
they, you know, the Biological Weapons and Anti Terrorism Act
00:30:30
of 89 that Boyle Rd. was the US domestic legislation of the
00:30:34
Biological Weapons Convention. And so their argument, their
00:30:37
cover argument might be, well, we want to strengthen it.
00:30:39
You know, it's tested. So this way we'll be prepared to
00:30:41
deal with any evolutionary leaps of it or something like that.
00:30:44
But I think that's just all BS. But.
00:30:47
Don't viruses normally get weaker as they're out and
00:30:50
they're tested when they when they get released and all of a
00:30:52
sudden they make the crossover to the human population.
00:30:55
They don't normally get stronger.
00:30:56
They actually go in the reverse because our immune system starts
00:30:58
attack, we develop some kind of immunity, right?
00:31:01
It seems like they normally start to do that.
00:31:03
Is that not, am I not wrong right about that?
00:31:05
Maybe I'm not. That's my understand.
00:31:07
That's my understanding too, but I'm not a virologist either.
00:31:11
That's my understanding as well. But so his argument was the
00:31:15
virus was developed for illegal gain of functional research
00:31:17
offensive bioweapon, right? The derivatives of that were in
00:31:21
the COVID injections. That makes the COVID injections
00:31:26
a bioweapon like the, you know, the spike protein and so on.
00:31:29
The derivatives of that were in the COVID injection.
00:31:32
And the beauty of this argument is so simple is that it shows
00:31:35
specific intent. Now under the specific intent
00:31:39
kind of umbrella, he also, he also argues that the the lipid
00:31:44
nanoparticles was the Pentagon developed dual use technology
00:31:48
through DARPA. So he's arguing after specific
00:31:50
intent too. In fact, in his affidavit the
00:31:53
the transcript of the interview that he included with it in my
00:31:55
case, he is literally talking about how they aerosolized the
00:31:59
virus itself early on with nanotechnology.
00:32:02
But OK, so that's the specific intent argument.
00:32:05
It's very simple, but I think very clean argument showing
00:32:09
specific intent. He did also support the
00:32:11
knowingness argument of intent. So you got specific intent here.
00:32:14
Knowing this is a little down here, so I, I rely on knowing
00:32:17
this kind of standard a lot in my case, in my second case that
00:32:21
I filed here that's pending right now.
00:32:23
And what I'm saying was. Sansone DeSantis case or is that
00:32:26
a different case? Yeah.
00:32:28
Yeah. So the first one is.
00:32:29
That in the appellate court right now or have you already?
00:32:32
Correct the, the and I'm going to I'm going to give you Boyle's
00:32:34
arguments. I'll cycle back to that.
00:32:36
But basically, yes, my, my mandamus.
00:32:38
I lost the appeal in October of 2024, filed the new case in
00:32:42
December 1 of 202413 appellate court won an appeal back in the
00:32:47
trial court back in the appellate court and I'll detail
00:32:50
that in a minute. But so that's the specific
00:32:52
argument to knowing this standard of intent is basically
00:32:55
that okay, these shots are killing people, they're causing
00:32:58
disabilities, disease and so on. There's no not only is there no
00:33:01
prophylactic effect, the study showed there's a negative
00:33:03
efficacy. And so yet you're still out
00:33:07
there saying it's safe and effective and, and lying to
00:33:10
people. And, you know, according to the
00:33:12
Pfizer versus cancer case, as early as December of 2020 that,
00:33:17
you know, your typical deep state bureaucrats knew that
00:33:20
these were harmful and they lied about it.
00:33:22
And now I think it's pretty planned and part of a broader
00:33:25
depopulation transhumanist agenda.
00:33:27
But just going on that right there that shows knowingness.
00:33:31
And I use that in my case also regarding RFK Junior.
00:33:34
But so that's basically the knowingness standard.
00:33:38
I mean, I'm, I'm condensing. And then he also supported what
00:33:43
was called malice aforethought. This goes with from from common
00:33:47
law. And basically that's a a
00:33:50
reckless disregard for human life.
00:33:53
Like you knew this was danger. You went forward with it.
00:33:55
You knew it was dangerous anyway.
00:33:56
And he argues in his book Resisting Mental Tyranny, that
00:34:00
you could literally charge Fauci Burla, the head, you know, all
00:34:04
the pharmaceutical companies, you could charge them because of
00:34:06
Alice and forthwith murder and conspiracy to commit murder and
00:34:10
so. Just step further, because if
00:34:11
they had knowledge and they still went forward, let's assume
00:34:15
for a moment that Fauci knew it was dangerous for a number of
00:34:18
reasons, you went forward anyway.
00:34:19
That would be Mens re of a crime with.
00:34:21
That would be the knowingness. That would be the knowingness
00:34:24
standard of attempt where specific intent is like you can
00:34:27
show that you and there's an e-mail saying, hey, Lance, let's
00:34:30
unleash this next week. Although the gain of function is
00:34:33
showing specific intent by their actions because it ended up in
00:34:37
the, in the quote UN quote vaccine.
00:34:39
And then, and then the 4th main argument, he, and I'm not saying
00:34:42
that Doctor Boyle did not support other arguments.
00:34:44
These are just his main arguments.
00:34:45
And he did. And the fourth argument that he
00:34:47
put out there was the Nuremberg Code and informed consent.
00:34:50
And even while the Nuremberg Code itself isn't binding,
00:34:53
every, every state or country has a informed consent law of
00:34:57
some kind. In fact, I don't know the
00:34:59
statute. I really got to look it up, but
00:35:01
Doctor Remo Lebo recently told me that the Nuremberg Code was
00:35:04
actually based on the US federal statute on informed consent.
00:35:08
I didn't know we had a statute before the law, and she's saying
00:35:11
that there's actually a capital punishment in there.
00:35:14
So I do want to look up that law, but.
00:35:16
I think it would be important. George, let me ask, you didn't
00:35:19
chat asking any specific questions about what we're
00:35:21
discussing or do you have anything you want to add to
00:35:24
where we're at? No questions yet as of yet in
00:35:27
the chat, I'm just working on something back back in Lance
00:35:29
with Rumble. OK, OK.
00:35:31
I just want to make sure I don't want to let you think I wanted
00:35:32
to leave you out of this is that, you know, George is
00:35:35
interesting. He had extremely high immunity,
00:35:38
never had any issues. I caught COVID twice, at least
00:35:40
based on the the you know, the saliva test.
00:35:44
I never did any of those, you know, nasal brain, brain probing
00:35:50
test. I was always concerned about
00:35:52
people sticking that swab way up into my nasal cavity.
00:35:56
I'd heard a lot of stories about that, but I'd done some saliva
00:35:58
tests when they came out and really, it wasn't a big deal.
00:36:01
I took the protocols, went and got right through it.
00:36:04
George actually lost a family member because they used
00:36:08
remdesivir on this show. We call it Run Death is Near,
00:36:11
but I'm on a vent. And of course, that liquefied
00:36:13
his organs. Things didn't go well, and that
00:36:16
was another thing that they pushed across country.
00:36:18
I always get these ventilators in every hospital.
00:36:20
Even Donald Trump raved about how he's going to get
00:36:22
ventilators in every hospital. But, you know, I don't know how
00:36:25
much I can blame him. I personally believe there was a
00:36:28
lot of advisement around him. I don't know what his knowledge
00:36:30
base was. I don't think he ever claimed
00:36:32
that he was knowledgeable. Let's talk about your, your the
00:36:36
Sandstone mRNA Bioets and Prohibition Act.
00:36:40
But when we come back, I know we got to take a short break.
00:36:42
We'll take a break. We'll be right back with Doctor
00:36:46
Joseph and and of course, George Sansone and George Ballantine.
00:36:51
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Doc's about to reveal how DeSantis talks a big game in the
00:42:00
state but really are not pulling through.
00:42:01
I mean, you know, Doc his I get what is it?
00:42:06
Who's the health guy that is in charge of the state?
00:42:07
What do you call him again? Doctor Doctor Joseph Ludipo is
00:42:10
our surgeon General. Surgeon general from Florida, he
00:42:13
talks a big game too. I mean what that what's going on
00:42:15
tell us people, we. Want to know, All right, so I
00:42:20
lost that appeal on that first rid of Maine, Damon.
00:42:22
So I filed a new case on December 1st of 2024.
00:42:25
It was a complaint seeking an injunction to prohibit the
00:42:28
governor, attorney general, continued attorney general, not
00:42:32
surgeon general, from continuing to facilitate the MRI injections
00:42:35
because they're biological and technological weapons of mass
00:42:37
destruction, violating our weapons of mass destruction law
00:42:41
here in Florida. And I was also seeking
00:42:43
declaratory judgments. What I argued in my case is so
00:42:48
back in 20, 23 and April 2023, I didn't let anybody know it at
00:42:52
the time until afterward, but I had on April 1st, I woke up in
00:42:56
congestive heart failure, couldn't breathe like 3:30 in
00:42:58
the morning, went into the ER and I ended up on the 10th of
00:43:02
April having triple bypass heart surgery.
00:43:04
In fact, while I was in the hospital, I was doing two
00:43:06
things. One, I was getting unvaccinated
00:43:07
blood in case I needed it, which I didn't.
00:43:09
And then the other thing is I got Doctor Francis Boyle who
00:43:12
already supported my band and jab Resolution.
00:43:14
I got him to publicly endorse it and got him on a really big
00:43:17
podcast at the, I actually got him on a, the podcast at the
00:43:19
same exact time I was getting operated on.
00:43:21
I figured it'd be a good party shot.
00:43:23
But so though, like I said earlier, those did have an
00:43:26
effect. The governor, the attorney
00:43:27
general did you know, call for a halt to the surgeon general did
00:43:30
call for a halt to the shots and everything in the Florida
00:43:32
Department of Health on official bulletins, you know, but nothing
00:43:35
happened. So that's why I did the main day
00:43:37
miss and then said, OK, we're in the second case.
00:43:39
I'm in December of 2024. I had like 9 affidavits.
00:43:43
I was just about to get another one from Doctor James Thorpe.
00:43:46
I'm up to 11 now because I got two more when I went back.
00:43:49
So what happened is the the court dismisses my case and had
00:43:53
a bunch of reasons, said I didn't state a clear cause of
00:43:56
action, etcetera. Even said like I can't try to
00:44:00
force the prosecution now. Nowhere in my complaint and I
00:44:02
asked her for a prosecution. So that didn't make any sense.
00:44:05
So Long story short there, I appealed on 8 issues.
00:44:08
So some of them hardcore constitutional issues about
00:44:11
these Sabaya weapons and so on, but a couple of them procedural
00:44:15
and one of them was, is that I wasn't allowed to amend my
00:44:18
complaint. So she, the court's saying I
00:44:20
have a problem with the complaint, you should be able to
00:44:21
amend it. And what happened was, is she
00:44:25
did not dismiss my case with prejudice, which if they
00:44:27
dismissed your case with prejudice, it means you cannot
00:44:29
amend your complaint. You'd have to appeal it, right?
00:44:31
She didn't do that, but she threatened me with sanctions if
00:44:33
I continue to file more for more lawsuits and said she would not
00:44:38
entertain any further emotions. So I immediately appealed it.
00:44:42
And one of my arguments was I wasn't allowed to amend a
00:44:44
complaint. So the appellate court, what
00:44:46
they did on November 12th of 2024, 5/20/25, they, they, they
00:44:52
actually ruled in my favor. At first I thought I lost
00:44:54
because they dismissed the case. But then what they did is they
00:44:57
dismissed the case and said it was still active in the lower
00:45:00
court and I can amend my complaint, you know, which is
00:45:03
despite her orders because they could not reverse and remand it
00:45:07
because she didn't dismiss it with prejudice.
00:45:08
So you know, the courts, I get it, we're, I know what we're
00:45:12
dealing with, but the First District Court of Appeal in
00:45:14
Florida actually did the right thing there.
00:45:16
They looked at everything. They saw a clear procedural off
00:45:18
ramp and they took it and they, you know, they said no, he can
00:45:21
amend his complaint. They sent me back to the trial
00:45:23
court. So I'm back in the trial court
00:45:25
here in November to December of 2025 now.
00:45:29
And I met, I do a short amendment on my complaint.
00:45:31
What I did is I shifted from the weapons of mass destruction law,
00:45:34
although I'm still saying it's a biological, technological weapon
00:45:37
of mass destruction, and it's in our constitutional rights.
00:45:40
And I say which parts of our Florida Constitution.
00:45:43
What I did is I used the Florida health freedom law.
00:45:45
We have a health freedom law here which prohibits the
00:45:52
coercing of any EUA product, face masks and marine injections
00:45:56
and so on. And so I'm arguing that the
00:45:58
involuntary environmental exposure from the shedding is in
00:46:01
fact forced or coerced injection.
00:46:05
Now, now Governor DeSantis, they fought on me.
00:46:07
They fought. They filed A brief and argued to
00:46:09
keep their shots on the market in my first rid of Maine Damus
00:46:12
in the appellate court. But on the last appeal, they
00:46:15
didn't file anything because they never got served a summons
00:46:18
because the court dismissed it before.
00:46:19
I can get one. Now this case, what happened
00:46:22
was, is my case gets dismissed again and the court, you know,
00:46:26
she's saying I didn't state A cause of action again, which is,
00:46:29
it was weak. But so then I, I, when I did my
00:46:32
motion for rehearing, I even gave him a proposed Second
00:46:34
Amendment complaint curing any of her alleged defects.
00:46:37
She denied it again. So back in the appellate court,
00:46:39
I'm appealing on like 7 issues this time, most of them
00:46:43
procedural. One of them is that this is a
00:46:46
novel issue of great public importance.
00:46:48
And you know, because this is a weapon of mass destruction
00:46:50
causing disease, disability and death and so on, we need
00:46:54
evidentiary development. So I'm in the appellate core.
00:46:57
I filed my appeal on December 18th of 2025.
00:47:00
Ten days later, I on the 28th, I filed A-75 page appellate brief.
00:47:05
I was trying to get it done by Christmas because I want to
00:47:06
deliver it to DeSantis on Christmas, but I couldn't do it.
00:47:09
I mean, literally Christmas Eve, I was going from 9:00 in the
00:47:12
morning till 3:30 in the morning on Christmas Eve.
00:47:15
And then Christmas Day I went from like 9:00 in the morning to
00:47:16
10 at night. I just couldn't get it done in
00:47:18
time. So anyway, So what happens is,
00:47:20
is the deadline for their answer brief was January 27th or 28th.
00:47:24
I get a few days beforehand the attorney for the state, for the
00:47:28
governor, attorney general request a 60 day extension, not
00:47:32
3060 days. So they need 90 days to answer a
00:47:34
brief. I wrote in 10 days.
00:47:36
I did something right with it, I think.
00:47:38
And so they've got to March 30, the court granted it.
00:47:41
They've got to March 30 to to do that answer brief.
00:47:46
So people need to understand that answer brief means the
00:47:48
governor of state of Florida is fighting to keep mRNA on the
00:47:52
market. He could just simply sign a
00:47:54
consent agreement. So I'm waiting for the answer
00:47:57
brief. But one thing the court did that
00:47:59
was good as they took judicial notice of my prior appeal
00:48:02
because this is the same appellate court and 1.
00:48:04
So what happened in my prior appeal too, is I fought a lot of
00:48:07
supplemental authorities. RFK Junior speaking in his
00:48:11
official capacity, doing a press release, a press conference
00:48:14
where he said the COVID were not effective for for covert or flu,
00:48:19
but the risk that way to benefit.
00:48:20
I argue in my first appeal that that actually shows criminal
00:48:23
intent on behalf of RK Junior in the federal government from that
00:48:27
point forward at least. I also filed like Doctor
00:48:31
Latapose statement that the MRA shots are poisoned when he was
00:48:35
speaking in his official capacity.
00:48:36
So what happened here is I was back in the trial court now and
00:48:40
before this appeal, how I got dismissed was I did a motion for
00:48:42
emergency preliminary injunction with an evidentiary hearing with
00:48:46
six witnesses and you have to list your witnesses and this is
00:48:49
important. You have to list your witnesses
00:48:51
and your exhibits. I had a lot of evidence there,
00:48:54
including like a study showing a three-year mortality rate with
00:48:58
my ejection only 15 to 20%. I provided evidence of that and
00:49:02
a study showing a three-year mortality rate.
00:49:04
I provided a study with showing the shedding that half of the
00:49:08
unvaccinated women had the MRA in them and then stuff like
00:49:12
that. But I also.
00:49:15
In my list Desantis's position. Well, wait, one more thing,
00:49:18
because it's real important before you answer that question
00:49:19
because you're going to want to notice in my motion for the
00:49:23
emergency injunction preliminary hearing, I list my witnesses.
00:49:26
I'm one of them 'cause I'm going to introduce evidence, Doctor
00:49:28
Anna Mahalchia, Nick Hulscher, Dr. Zivyets, Dr. Vila.
00:49:34
And I also list there that I'm going to subpoena Surgeon
00:49:37
General Doctor Joseph Latapo in my case.
00:49:40
And I think that's why I got kicked right out real quick
00:49:43
again. And because not for privilege
00:49:46
information, but he has made public statements in this
00:49:49
official capacity saying that these are poison, OK.
00:49:51
And he's part of the executive branch.
00:49:53
So by me subpoenaing him, that splits that whole separation of
00:49:57
powers argument because no, he's the executive branch.
00:49:59
He serves at the pleasure of the governor.
00:50:01
And so my case got dismissed to Esponte again.
00:50:04
And but she was supposed to do a fertility argument.
00:50:07
I have a lot of strong procedural arguments in this
00:50:09
appeal. I think my case is stronger than
00:50:10
last time. Sorry, go ahead.
00:50:12
No, but that's what they do, procedurals, the weapon, they
00:50:15
have to weaponize the system against you because usually it's
00:50:18
out of ignorance. Of course, now that there's AI
00:50:20
available, you can challenge them very, very sophisticated
00:50:23
manner. It changes the whole dynamic and
00:50:26
it doesn't matter. That's the problem they have now
00:50:28
that now that people are using AI because you might be able to
00:50:32
write a very powerful motion. And you just have to, but you
00:50:35
just have to really double check because AI makes a lot of
00:50:37
mistakes and it synthesizes, it'll synthesize 2 cases
00:50:41
together and you'll think this is great.
00:50:43
You'll look up, well, that's not even a real case.
00:50:45
So you got to actually. Hallucinate, I think is what
00:50:48
they call hallucination. But yeah, although it's gotten
00:50:50
tremendously better. I used it, you know, started
00:50:52
using about two years ago for some illegal analysis, and I
00:50:55
noticed it's made serious lightspeed jumps over the last
00:51:00
two years. It's a whole different game now.
00:51:02
It doesn't do as much of that hallucination.
00:51:04
It's pretty accurate. Yeah.
00:51:05
You should always, definitely, no matter what, you should
00:51:07
always check your cert, your citations.
00:51:09
You never want to take a chance that it's misquoted.
00:51:11
But they do a lot of that. They'll misquote the law of the
00:51:13
misinterpret and they try to use, they hope that, you know,
00:51:18
Doctor Sansone is ignorant. They hope that he doesn't know
00:51:20
the law. That's how they weaponize the
00:51:22
system. Let's talk about the Sansone
00:51:24
mRNA Bio Weapon Prohibition Act. You've made a move into three
00:51:28
states. I'm just curious.
00:51:30
You know that we've got some federal congressional members
00:51:33
that appear that they want to make a difference.
00:51:35
RFK acts like he wants to make a difference.
00:51:38
You know, are you getting any support out of the feds?
00:51:40
Is there anybody that's jumping on board saying this is a great
00:51:42
idea, let's try to push this forward.
00:51:44
No, I am probably like you know, I'm in like shadow band hell.
00:51:47
In fact my ex account was just hacked Sunday.
00:51:49
Still trying to get it back. You know, coincidence as I'm
00:51:52
going to the Netherlands, But so no, no, not at all.
00:51:57
I mean, look, people need to understand something.
00:51:59
The FDA commissioner, he can pull the shots immediately, is
00:52:02
the power. RKK Junior, he at least stopped
00:52:04
the shots. He has the power to do it.
00:52:06
It's been done before. Kathleen Sebelius did it with
00:52:08
like in I think 2011 or 12 with contraceptives where she made it
00:52:12
like we're underage kids couldn't get contraceptives
00:52:15
without a prescription. She overruled the FDA
00:52:16
commissioner. So RFK Junior can pull the shots
00:52:19
like that. OK.
00:52:21
So either he's a coward or corrupt or out of touch.
00:52:24
We know he's not out of touch. He knows he or buy a weapon.
00:52:26
So I mean, somebody already introduced him, that guy who
00:52:28
wrote that book to really Anthony Fauci might teach him a
00:52:30
thing. But so I mean, they they know
00:52:34
they're just. So no, I have not, you know,
00:52:37
resistance. It doesn't surprise me that you
00:52:39
don't have any federal support, right?
00:52:41
Often when something is over the target and is going to fix an
00:52:44
actual real issue, it seems like everybody scatters.
00:52:47
You know, they're all cowards on both sides of the aisle and even
00:52:49
the administration has got people in place.
00:52:52
I expected more out of Pam Bondi and Cash Patel for whatever
00:52:55
reason. I don't know if they're being
00:52:57
controlled. I don't know if they're not
00:52:58
being allowed, Lance. Look, I'm right wing.
00:53:01
I've been right wing for a long time.
00:53:02
I've never been on the left. I mean, I was right wing when
00:53:05
Donald Trump was an open borders liberal, you know, when he ran
00:53:07
for the Reform Party, when he went on Oprah Winfrey to be his
00:53:09
running mate. So, you know, I was in a
00:53:10
Buchanan campaign. So it's like, but I'm gonna tell
00:53:13
you, don't. People should not fall into the
00:53:15
game of being quiet when your side's in there.
00:53:18
So it's like we're against ABC and D when the Democrats are in
00:53:22
there, but all of a sudden now we're gonna be quiet on
00:53:24
programmable money, We're gonna be quiet on digital IDs and etc.
00:53:28
It's like, no, it's a unit party and you gotta accept it and
00:53:33
never cheer for your politicians.
00:53:35
What you do is you get out of stick and you beat them and you
00:53:38
whip them until they do what they're supposed to do.
00:53:40
That is your relationship to your politician.
00:53:43
Because these people are narcissistic sycophants that get
00:53:47
in the past, they might have found somebody in office and
00:53:49
corrupted them. Now they find corrupt people,
00:53:52
run them up the flagpole and look, we don't even know if the
00:53:54
whole damn thing is fake. With computer voting.
00:53:56
I mean, come on. It's like trusting the slot
00:53:58
machine. And I can tell you going to
00:53:59
these conventions, people will cheat right in front of you if
00:54:02
they can get away with it. When it comes to voting,
00:54:05
everybody will see needs to be totally transparent.
00:54:08
Sorry when I ran. Lance, let me, I'm going to
00:54:09
Lance, let me interrupt because I got a question from Jackalo
00:54:13
Stacy. They want to know what do you
00:54:15
recommend to detox from the spike protein from the vax or?
00:54:21
Did you, you know, I, I'm not a medical doctor.
00:54:24
I mean, I kind of know a lot talking to them, but I don't
00:54:26
think I should give you any kind of medical advice like that.
00:54:30
I mean, Doctor Anna Mahaci's got protocols out there.
00:54:32
Doctor Peter Mccullough's got people got different approaches
00:54:35
and, you know, different things might work for different people,
00:54:38
but I don't think I should really say what I what I think
00:54:40
on that too much. OK, fair enough.
00:54:43
I think that's safe enough. But they can always go check out
00:54:45
Doctor Peter McCullough and others.
00:54:47
There are other people that have protocols.
00:54:49
We try not to give medical advice when they show you there.
00:54:50
But let's switch up here. The Great Reset is on trial in
00:54:54
the Netherlands. You're preparing to testify as a
00:54:56
witness in the civil case alleging bio warfare and
00:55:01
genocide that's been filed against the Bill Gates, Albert
00:55:05
Burla, Mark Root from NATO, the Dutch state and others.
00:55:09
And of course, they're calling it the Great Reset on trial.
00:55:12
Can you, can you tell us what's going on there?
00:55:14
Are these guys in trouble? Does it look like this case is
00:55:17
really going to do something? What's the strategy in the case?
00:55:20
And I guess what are you going to be testifying specifically?
00:55:23
When you and when are you going? Is it in a week, two weeks?
00:55:25
When do you actually go to? The hearing is on the the hear.
00:55:27
I'm going pretty soon this weekend.
00:55:29
I think the hearings on March 9th, Monday, March 9th.
00:55:31
So I think the hearings from 9:00 to 4:00.
00:55:33
I'm sorry. I think the hearings from 11:00
00:55:35
to 4:00 and then the press conference will be out like 5:00
00:55:37
PM Netherlands time which is 6 hours ahead of us.
00:55:41
So this case they, they reached out to me in 2024 like after I
00:55:47
did my rid of Maine Damas. And then I don't know if it was
00:55:50
just when they were filing the case or even before they filed
00:55:51
it because I shared info with them.
00:55:53
And then in October of 2024, they survived the motion to
00:55:59
dismiss. So this case, it has been moving
00:56:01
forward. And this is a this is a civil
00:56:03
case on behalf of seven plaintiffs, One died.
00:56:06
So it's six plaintiffs now that were injured by the bio weapon
00:56:09
injections in the case. The case, you know, the, it's a
00:56:13
pretty long brief. The case alleges the use of that
00:56:15
the ejections were bio weapons. It it alleges the crime and
00:56:18
genocide. So it's it's pretty hard hitting
00:56:21
complain. The defendants in it are Bill
00:56:24
Gates, Albert Burla, Pfizer, Mark Rut, who was the former
00:56:31
Prime Minister of the Netherlands, who's now the
00:56:33
secretary of NATO and a bunch of other Dutch officials.
00:56:38
And so the case I want. To tell the audience, because
00:56:39
they may not know this Doctor Francis Boyle died recently
00:56:43
right under some very. Yeah, So what happens?
00:56:47
Was conditions, am I right? Let maybe you'd share that with
00:56:49
you and you're actually going to be stepping into his role as an
00:56:53
expert witness because you understand the 1989 US
00:56:56
Biological weapons Anti Terrorism Act, I guess just as
00:56:59
well as he does. Maybe at this point, maybe even
00:57:01
better because you've spent so much time looking at it.
00:57:04
Well, I don't know, he probably had about 40 or 50 points on the
00:57:06
IQ on me. You know, when it comes to PhDs,
00:57:08
Lance, I'm kind of like Forrest Bump, like a little below
00:57:10
average. But so Doctor Boyle, I, I hope
00:57:15
the rain for him to testify in the case.
00:57:18
And about 3 weeks later he died. He went to the hospital and
00:57:21
died. And nobody really what he died.
00:57:25
From actually, I, it was never put out.
00:57:27
Nobody knows what he died of. So I didn't know the family or
00:57:30
anything. So it's not like I could say,
00:57:31
hey, what happened, you know, And so nobody knows.
00:57:35
You know my, I knew Doctor Boyle because he used, he was an
00:57:37
advisor at National Arm and I sit on the board there still.
00:57:40
So he would, he would sit in every other week on our on our
00:57:43
meetings, you know, as an advisor.
00:57:45
But so yeah, he died like 3 weeks later unexpectedly.
00:57:50
Now, I do know he was about 74 years old.
00:57:52
He still taught law full time, though.
00:57:54
He was still a full time law professor and pretty active.
00:57:58
But I don't know if you know his health condition.
00:58:00
But yeah, he died about 3 weeks later.
00:58:01
All we know is he went to the hospital and, you know, died at
00:58:04
the hospital. Did he just have a heart attack
00:58:06
or was he targeted? I have no idea.
00:58:09
You know, I don't speculate too much on that because I don't
00:58:12
want to encourage cowardice. I mean, because that's part of
00:58:14
the problem. Everybody's a coward.
00:58:16
But I don't rule out foul play, though.
00:58:18
But I can tell you this, the only people that knew he was
00:58:20
going to testify was myself, the attorneys and I guess the other
00:58:23
witnesses, which the witnesses in this case are myself, Doctor
00:58:27
Michael Eadon, Sasha Ladapova, Catherine Austin Fitz and
00:58:31
Catherine Watt. And so the court didn't even
00:58:35
know he's going to testify yet. However, all of our emails and
00:58:37
phone conversations are, you know, the NSA and everybody
00:58:40
follows everything. So he could have very well been
00:58:43
targeted. And so.
00:58:46
So he could have been targeted. Yeah.
00:58:47
My understanding is I'll be testifying to what his legal
00:58:50
view was. And I can also authenticate the
00:58:52
fact that he gave the affidavit in my case, which, again, it's
00:58:56
not just an expert legal opinion.
00:58:57
It shows legislative intent. And So what this hearing is
00:59:02
about, so the case is moving forward.
00:59:04
This is not like my appeal. My case was dismissed.
00:59:07
I'm appealing to get back into the trial court.
00:59:09
This case is still in the trial court.
00:59:11
This is like their version of an interlocutory appeal.
00:59:14
What they're appealing here is the trial court made a decision
00:59:17
to not allow witnesses in the case and not allow the
00:59:20
independent media and the public into the trial court.
00:59:23
So those two decisions were appealed.
00:59:26
And this appellate hearing, that's what it's about.
00:59:28
But on a positive kind of sign, if you want to read the tea
00:59:31
leaves, is the appellate court is allowing the witnesses to be
00:59:35
present. That's why I'm going there and
00:59:37
they're allowing. And I believe myself, Sasalata
00:59:41
Pover and Katherine Watt will be there.
00:59:43
I don't believe the other two witnesses will be there for this
00:59:45
hearing because they might ask us questions, but we're not
00:59:48
actually going to be testifying yet.
00:59:49
And there's, but they're also allowing the independent media
00:59:51
and the public into this courtroom for the hearing, for
00:59:54
the appellate hearing, you know, so the two issues they're
00:59:57
deciding on for this actual hearing, they're allowing to
01:00:00
occur. So I think that's kind of a
01:00:01
positive sign from the court if they're signaling anything that
01:00:05
makes sense. It's interesting.
01:00:07
What do you think? What's your take?
01:00:09
Do you think it's pretty clear cut?
01:00:11
Is the court playing games over there or do you think the court
01:00:14
in the Netherlands is very interested in seeing a positive
01:00:17
outcome for this case? You can sometimes text the
01:00:19
temperament of the court based on their responses and behavior.
01:00:22
Do you think they're actually going to, you know, is it, what
01:00:25
if you had to give odds? Are they going to rule in favor
01:00:28
of your team or do you think they're going to side with Gates
01:00:31
and Borla and. For this hearing, for this
01:00:34
hearing, my, my feeling is they probably will rule in favor of
01:00:39
the plaintiffs like to, to allow to, to, to cause the hearing is
01:00:44
about allowing the cameras and the independent media and the
01:00:46
public into the courtroom and the witnesses.
01:00:48
And they're allowing all that at the hearing.
01:00:49
So to me, I'm just thinking, you know, they're going to, they're
01:00:52
going to tell the trial court they need to do that.
01:00:55
I mean, I don't know because I don't know.
01:00:57
I don't believe they have a jury.
01:00:58
I don't know that they have a jury system there like we do
01:01:00
here. I think a jury case and a civil
01:01:02
case like this against Bill Gates and Albert Burla would be
01:01:05
easy to win because people don't like that.
01:01:08
And I think so many people know people have been injured by the
01:01:10
shots. It would just be, I mean, you'd
01:01:12
have to find like somebody from Antarctica or something that
01:01:15
would be an impartial jurist, I guess.
01:01:17
But so I don't know, they could have a situation where the judge
01:01:21
like, so I in my case, like when I asked for them to reverse and
01:01:24
remand it, I asked for another judge, not just also, I also
01:01:27
found a case where she made a statement that the state of
01:01:30
Florida didn't mishandle COVID in any way.
01:01:32
So I'm asking to reassign a case because of that too, because
01:01:35
that's the predicate of my whole case.
01:01:36
But so they might have a situation where the trial court
01:01:39
judge is kind of activists and the appellate court is just like
01:01:43
in my case, the appellate court is just honestly acting.
01:01:45
So the appellate court right now looks favorable.
01:01:48
I don't know if they got a, you know, a bad judge at the trial
01:01:51
court or not, but that that sometimes you can run into that.
01:01:54
The issue is you got a judge who's just not doing things
01:01:57
right at the trial. Then you go to the appellate
01:01:59
court, they do. It's like a, you know, a good
01:02:00
cop, bad cop thing and you go back and forth.
01:02:02
But I feel good about this appeal.
01:02:04
I don't know about the overall case, but you know, I think
01:02:07
public opinion does fact things and I actually posted the live
01:02:11
stream for this Netherlands hearing coming up just today.
01:02:15
If you guys want to steal that and share that later at any
01:02:17
point because that's on the 9th so people can actually watch
01:02:20
the. Hearing.
01:02:21
When is that hearing? It's on the ninth Monday the
01:02:24
9th. I just posted the live stream
01:02:26
link. What time on my website 9 it
01:02:28
well, it's I think it's 11 to 4 Netherlands time and the press
01:02:32
conference is 5:00 PM, but they're six hours ahead of us.
01:02:37
So that would make it like 5 to. 911 to wait.
01:02:40
OK, but 11 to 4 is the what again?
01:02:43
That's Netherlands time, that's the hearing and then.
01:02:46
That's what we want, the hearing, yeah.
01:02:48
Yeah. And then the press conference
01:02:49
afterward is at 5:00 PM where the attorney and all of us will
01:02:52
be. But.
01:02:53
You have an embedded link or something for that?
01:02:56
Yeah, yeah, I. Just posted.
01:02:56
Let's do this George. I was going to have you pull up
01:02:59
his website. George.
01:03:00
That's what I was. Going to because I have a
01:03:01
website. Yeah, he's got a sub stack.
01:03:03
Go to. Santone.com.
01:03:04
Yeah, it's in his bio. Yeah, it's not a website.
01:03:07
It's sub stack. I got it.
01:03:08
It's going to take me a minute. Yeah.
01:03:12
I'm standing me not sub stack. Damn it, let's do.
01:03:14
This let's share with the audience how they follow you,
01:03:16
how they can participate, you know, where they can, you know,
01:03:19
get out of your sub stack. Where best thing is my website
01:03:22
which is my sub stack Joseph sansone.com and you can just my
01:03:25
newsletter is free. You can subscribe to it.
01:03:27
I update everything on my case and my bill there.
01:03:30
My bill is, I think it might move forward in Tennessee at
01:03:34
this point. We thought we're going to get
01:03:36
blocked, but, you know, we're just waiting to get back from
01:03:38
legal. So I'd like to get it to vote
01:03:41
somewhere. Even if it doesn't pass, it's
01:03:43
moving the issue and then you bring it back it.
01:03:46
You know, it's tough with the states because they move out
01:03:48
quick. But yeah, right on my website,
01:03:49
josephsanzon.com, you can. I actually have a template on
01:03:52
there too. By the way, I have all 50 state
01:03:54
versions of the bill. Little bill is a federal
01:03:57
version. It's like an article that says
01:03:59
I'm going to war. Will you join me?
01:04:01
And I also have 55 country versions of it.
01:04:04
But I think you see to the I think it's the top right one
01:04:07
there. If you click on that one, that's
01:04:09
the one to link. I think about.
01:04:12
No, you see the top right one where you see the the people
01:04:14
like in the I'm pointing as if you can see where I'm pointing
01:04:17
the article on to the right, like where you see the people in
01:04:19
World War 2. Is that the link?
01:04:22
Yeah, I think I got the link there.
01:04:23
Right. Oh, you know what?
01:04:31
I'm sorry. Go back and it's a little
01:04:33
further down. I didn't pin it up top.
01:04:36
My apologies. So click back, like back to the
01:04:40
main page. Sorry, no.
01:04:42
It's OK, I was just reading something on it.
01:04:44
Yeah, Scroll down and you'll see like the right there,
01:04:47
Netherlands link live stream for Netherlands is like the like
01:04:56
it's got that same picture. Yeah, there you go.
01:05:00
That's right there. OK.
01:05:02
Yep, Yep, that's the link. So if people want to follow that
01:05:04
case and see you know, I'd see I think to answer your question
01:05:07
how it's gonna go, I think the more exposure we can get.
01:05:10
The reason they censor this stuff is because they don't want
01:05:12
public opinion. But the more exposure these guys
01:05:14
get my case too, but certainly this case cuz you know, nobody
01:05:18
likes Bill Gates or Albert Burla, the more exposure it
01:05:21
gets. I think it's gonna influence the
01:05:23
public opinion influences the court.
01:05:24
And if this case can breakthrough to censorship and
01:05:27
in the Netherlands here and enough people are paying
01:05:29
attention and they're already ruled by the way that they do
01:05:32
have jurisdiction over Bill Gates, like he will have to
01:05:34
appear at some point. I mean, if he brings stuff over
01:05:37
there, of course they should. But so who's going to be there?
01:05:40
Just Berla? Is Gates going to be there in a
01:05:42
hearing? I don't know if they're going to
01:05:43
be at this hearing or their attorneys.
01:05:45
At some point they will have to appear in the trial.
01:05:47
I don't know if they're going to be at this hearing, but the
01:05:49
court has said that they've got jurisdiction over them.
01:05:51
They will have to appear. So I mean, that might be a
01:05:56
positive sign for the trial court that they've done that.
01:06:00
And so it's, you know, it, it's, you know, that's we'll see what
01:06:06
happens. I mean, I can't read the tea
01:06:08
leaves any more than anybody else.
01:06:09
But here's the deal. I don't focus on the outcome.
01:06:12
I here's the deal. They're killing people, you
01:06:14
know, and love the people you know and love.
01:06:16
Most people you know and love are going to have a shortened
01:06:18
lifespan because of these injections.
01:06:20
OK, It's still going on. They're still giving.
01:06:22
And guess what? It, it you get injured from the
01:06:25
shedding, there's a, there's an indirect, you know, effect
01:06:28
because of shedding. There's studies that support
01:06:30
that. And so I mean, it's like, it's
01:06:33
like sitting here and watching your family members being raped
01:06:36
in pillage and you're just going to sit there like a little girl.
01:06:38
I mean, you're going to die. Get over it.
01:06:41
Now the question is, do you grovel on your knees like a
01:06:43
coward or stand up like a man or a woman and fight?
01:06:46
And I'm just not going to look the other way.
01:06:48
I can't. It's not in my DNA.
01:06:52
Yeah. And I think that's the right
01:06:53
attitude. That's exactly what you have to
01:06:55
do. Listen, Joe, I really appreciate
01:06:57
you joining us today. Hopefully, people go out and
01:06:58
follow you. They'll follow what's going on
01:07:00
in the case, in the Gates case. Maybe they'll catch that
01:07:02
hearing. Hopefully, these people will
01:07:04
face accountability eventually. In the meantime, I guess we'll
01:07:08
have to just keep fighting the fight that we're all doing on a
01:07:10
daily basis. We appreciate it.
01:07:12
Absolutely. Can I ask one question before we
01:07:14
go, please? Yeah.
01:07:16
George, is that hair real? It's not that I'm jealous, but
01:07:18
is it real? I'm just my hair.
01:07:19
It's too good. Yeah.
01:07:20
Yeah. His hair is perfect.
01:07:22
He's he's got great. Bastard.
01:07:23
I'm not jealous. Bastard.
01:07:25
Yeah, the Lance. I like you better.
01:07:26
Here for some reason. Lance, I like you better.
01:07:28
For some reason, Yeah, well. You know you got less hair.
01:07:32
The follicularly challenged have to have to stick together docs.
01:07:35
Yeah, that's how. It is.
01:07:36
Your hair is beautiful, George. I'm.
01:07:37
Thank you dude. No, I know I don't blame you.
01:07:39
It takes a lot to offend me. Not too many people can, but.
01:07:43
No big deal. I'm not very offensive, but
01:07:46
yeah, guys, I appreciate. You very much for joining us
01:07:49
today. We really appreciate it, man.
01:07:51
Thank you. Yeah, have a good one.
01:07:52
Listen, if you guys like the show, take the short form, take
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01:08:09
Lance, you didn't say in the beginning I understand because
01:08:12
the tech issues has has us all flustered, but it is Wednesday.
01:08:16
It's hump week in my life because I am single.
01:08:19
Some say it's hump day. Whatever, enjoy your day.
01:08:22
Stay stay safe out there and vigilant.
01:08:25
You don't know what's going on and stay blessed.
01:08:27
I love you guys. We'll catch you tomorrow
01:08:29
morning. I.
01:08:30
Might have. I might.
01:08:31
I might have. I might have.
01:08:32
I might. I might have.
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