THE BIG MIG SHOW
MARCH 04, 2026
EPISODE 783 – 11AM
Dr. Joseph Sansone is a psychotherapist opposed to psychopathic authoritarianism and writes a newsletter and hosts a podcast called Mind Matters and Everything Else on his website. No stranger to the America First Movement, Joseph was a chairman in one of Patrick J. Buchanan’s presidential campaigns and received a written endorsement to run for public office from Mr. Buchanan. Dr. Sansone has been litigating for the past couple years to try and stop Governor Ron DeSantis from continuing to facilitate MRNA in the State of Florida because they are biological and technological weapons of mass destructions. https://www.josephsansone.com
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All right, welcome back to the Big Make Show.
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Here we host George Ballantine. Lance Migliacho is with me.
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He just got on. If y'all give me a second, I'm
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going to bring him in. Take me like 2 seconds.
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He must have got hit by the CIA or something.
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They didn't want him talking today so they shot something.
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A bullet to his system. Here he is.
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Hey apologize for being late guys.
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My computer had to reboot it and it was being.
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Acting. Don't worry about CIA bro.
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Yeah, listen, it happens. Whatever.
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You know how it is with the tech anyway.
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So welcome back to the big big show.
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Of course, I'm your host, Lance Miliantzo with George B.
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Here he is rise and grind, tip of the spear, doing what we do.
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Of course this is a truth telling show.
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We try to do all the research. You don't have to bring you the
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right guests and the rest of it. George, how are you man?
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How are you this? Oh, I'm good.
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I've been watching the clown clown show hearings all morning
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with Tim Waltz and Keith Ellison.
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You know, just more waste of time and money as they just, you
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know, banter back and forth and, you know, no consequences,
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nothing gets done. Waste of time.
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Then we have, you know, Iran getting bombed to hell.
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The one of our one of our submarines sank one of their
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ships with a with a torpedo and that hasn't been done since
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World War 2. I talk about making headway.
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Yeah, I saw, I saw that this morning.
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There's a lot going on, you know, and it's it's funny, the
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news cycles are so full of phony stuff.
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Guys, be careful out there. Don't get sucked into any of
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these videos. A lot of game footage is being
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repurposed with AI. They're putting out a lot of
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false narratives, so watch what you're assuming is truth.
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I'm not even sure what to believe on some of it.
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You know, we heard some stuff from Colonel McGregor last
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night. He was talking to Matt Gaetz and
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said that a lot of our bases have been destroyed.
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We haven't seen that in the news.
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I don't know if it's true. A lot of our bases.
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Yeah, Colonel McGregor was on Matt Gaetz destroyed.
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Yeah. Not destroyed.
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I mean, they hit in Qatar the base.
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I'm going off just what I heard of the show.
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I don't care what? Yeah, I'm just telling you what
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I know. McGregor's sources, But he does
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have some pretty good sources you.
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Know he's been wrong too. He's a great guy, but he's been
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wrong too. But no, our base has not been
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destroyed. It was hit in a one in Qatar,
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but it's not destroyed. No, no lie.
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Nobody was injured or nothing. CI State CIA stationed in South
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in Saudi Arabia was stung. Off of what McGregor says, he
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still got contacts within the military.
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He made a comment that seemed pretty on on, you know, I
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watched the interview, got to tell you.
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I'm just going to say that it's possible.
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I don't know what they're covering up.
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There's a lot of news that I don't think is true right now.
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This was last night. Last night, Yeah.
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So can I find a clip? If you want to change.
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It comes over through the channels.
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No, I don't want to check it out.
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But you know, as much as people, their credibility, I love
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Colonel McGregor. I think he's a very credible
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guy. Sometimes people go on shows,
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you know, like Matt Gates. They, they, you know, they, they
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embellish a little in order to get clicks and views and stuff.
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So bass is not destroyed. But anyway, my uncle, I'll tell
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you what, my uncle isn't guitar. The bass is not destroyed.
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I, I didn't say guitar. What I said was bases.
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He actually indicated that several bases had been attacked
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and that they were not operational at this time and
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that they were using India as a jump point.
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Now, whether it's true or not, I have no idea.
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Again, like that's what I was bringing up.
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I was just trying to say that there's a lot of stuff right now
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that you have to really wonder what's true and what isn't.
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I don't know. I saw a lot of stuff last night
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that I validated that wasn't true and it sure looked
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legitimate when they posted it. I don't know, we'll have to see.
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You have to get it out. You got a great, a great guest
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for you guys today. You know, you, you've seen us
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cover lots of stuff when it comes to the pandemic.
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We've had a lot of great guests on over the years.
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Some of us got us suspended at different times on YouTube and
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otherwise. So, you know, we always try to
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bring you what we believe are the legitimate sources and
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facts. And today we're joined by Doctor
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Joseph Sansone. He's a psychotherapist opposed
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to psychopathic authoritarianism and writes A newsletter to host
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a podcast called Mind Matters and everything else on his
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website. Got a great sub stack over at
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josephsansone.com. And he's no stranger to the
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America first moved. Of course, Joseph was a chairman
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in one of Patrick J Buchanan's presidential campaigns, received
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a written endorsement to run for public office from Mr. Buchanan.
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Dr. Sisone has been litigating for the past couple of years to
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try and stop Governor Ron DeSantis from continuing to
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facilitate mRNA in the state of Florida as they are biological
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and technological weapons of mass destruction.
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We've talked about it on the show over and over again.
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We've had all the the experts. You guys know it.
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Doctor Sansone's going to be testifying in the Netherlands in
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a civil case against Bill Gates and others.
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We've talked about that. For some reason, Bill Gates
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thinks he's a medical expert with no medical experience.
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He wants to decide what you're going to eat, when you're going
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to eat it, and how you're going to get vaccinated.
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He wants to put it in our food. You name it.
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He's not the only one. No reason to leave Doctor
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Sansone backstage. Let's get him in.
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Let's get him in. Welcome to the big, big show,
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Doctor Sansone. Eyes on.
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Hey, how you doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Thanks for joining us today. First of all, I want to
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apologize for being late. My computer was being stubborn
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on the reboot. I had a problem with my audio
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so. I apologize.
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You're good. You're good.
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To prep you a little bit. Listen, you know, we've had a
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lot of people on, on this show that we've, you know, and we, we
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were lucky, but I think we were very fortunate that George and I
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never got vaccinated. We realized very early on that
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the mRNA vaccine was dangerous. We've had on Doctor Malone, Judy
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Mikeritz, Peter McCullough, you, you name it, we've had him on
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the show. And when I got the opportunity
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to have you come on, I was extremely interested in what
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you've been doing, you know, over this entire time period.
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You seem like you'd be fighting like crazy.
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But I like to start off with our guests and always ask him.
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You know, George and I weren't really political guys.
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And we were on Twitter posting and started to put a lot of true
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stuff out. I, you know, I recognize there
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was a lot of things that didn't seem right.
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Didn't take long for us to get suspended right after Donald
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Trump. They came right after George and
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I, minute and 46 seconds for me and George shortly thereafter.
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You know, my question is, what kind of triggered you?
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I don't know if this was always an area of interest for you or
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not, but let's maybe give some people a little more background
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than what I gave them in your bio.
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Well, I guess because I was involved in the, you know, the
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Buchanan America First movement in the 90s, I was pretty much
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awake since 1991. Buchanan was like the first guy
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to openly campaign against the New World Order back then when
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he challenged George HW Bush in the Republican primary back
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then. And he ran three times.
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But so when when when 911 happened, like, I kind of pretty
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quickly figured out that was an inside job and a false flag.
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So when COVID was coming down the line, it was just an easy
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play. It was the same playbook.
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They just want to make the whole country the airport.
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And and so that alone had me realizing it was, you know,
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something was up here and, you know, because a lot of the stuff
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we had talked about, you know, decades or two earlier and all
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of a sudden you see the stuff coming, kind of coming to
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fruition. I mean, not the specifics of the
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vaccine, although there were people out there, you know, even
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as early as 2009, like Doctor Remolebo talking about how
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they're going to hit us with a vaccine bioweapon.
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But I mean, so yeah, I think and I and we, because I've had
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conversations about this, why were some people awake and other
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people weren't? Why did.
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And the best I've come down to is it's something, you know,
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because I mean, I am a therapist.
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So it's something in it's something in your experience
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caused you to question things in your prior life experience.
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And I joke around saying like the honor roll students are not
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the ones that are going to save the world just to reform
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juvenile delinquents because they don't respect authority to
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the degree, you know, if you're, if you're, and here's why a lot
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of doctors got conned. You know, if you're, you're a
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high IQ doctor, you know, you've gone through your whole life
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getting those little stars when you're a little kid, getting all
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these little achievement awards. And you know, a lot of it's ego
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inflation. It's easily to manipulate them
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because of their over reliance under intelligence.
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And so it's like somebody who's over relying on their
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appearance. It's I mean, it's OK to look
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feel good about how you look, but if your whole identity is
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wrapped up in your appearance, you're kind of screwed.
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It's the same thing with your intelligence because you're
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easily manipulated. And so they trust the authority
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that was that gave them good lives basically.
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So I think that's a big part of why a lot of people got conned.
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You know, they're making money. It's just eats a lot of
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yourself. I think the lie was really easy
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to see. I mean, I do specialize in
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clinical hypnosis, so I'm kind of aware of the mass media
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manipulation maybe a little quicker than the average bear.
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But I think I thought it was obvious, but even to validate
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like what I had thought the late Doctor Francis Boyle, who we're
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going to talk about a little bit.
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He was the law professor that lobbied for and drafted the
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Biological Weapons and Anti Terrorism Act of 1989.
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And he came out on Hervoria Morik's podcast and then later
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on Infowars in January of 2020 saying that COVID itself was in
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fact a a bioweapon. And then a lot of people don't
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realize it. The, and by December of 2020,
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Doctor Francis Boyle was out there doing interviews stating
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clearly that the COVID injections were also bio
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weapons. And, and, and this is important
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for people to realize because because he gave me an affidavit
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in my case here in Florida as well.
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But you know, his expert legal opinion is not just an expert
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legal opinion, It's legislative intent because he wrote the law
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and the fact that the brakes didn't go on there, this is
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before the rollout, basically, it's in December of 2020.
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And and the fact that it the brakes weren't put on them is
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amazing. And there's just a lot of
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censorship about it. But look, a lot of people know
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that this is a bio weapon. They're just afraid to say it.
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And, and whether it's, you know, most of our politicians are
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either coward, corrupt or out of touch.
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Most of them might say are carried or corrupt at this point
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because it's hard to be out of touch.
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But some of them are still. But if I know it, they know it.
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You know it. They know it.
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And so, yeah, I mean, so that's kind of a long answer to I think
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I answered your question there. Yeah, I think you did.
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You know, it always takes a certain trigger moments.
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You know, it's different for everyone, but you know, the
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diffs information industrial complex, you know that that the
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way they're able to campaign so successfully, they've done a
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really good job. They've you know, they've
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they've hit a lot of the narratives over the years.
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I don't think they counted on. I think the Internet was
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supposed to be a different tool for them.
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I don't think they counted on the amount of truth that was
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coming out. I think they've tried to cope
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with it. They they do a pretty good job
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with bots. They do a pretty good job with
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discrediting people, attacking people, suiciding people.
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There's lots of ways they they silence people.
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But it's interesting, you know, we were lucky enough to get it
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connected with the right people very early.
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But you were, it was shocking when I tried to, you know, send
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people links to different, you know, medical experts, real
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doctors, they were more willing to bring up, you know, somebody
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like Bill Gates or somebody else, you know, the the CEO of
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Pfizer or maybe some other government official that was
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supposedly, hey, you've got to get the vaccine and you'll get
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some free French fries if you do.
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And we'll give you a free Donuts.
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And, you know, this is what's going to protect you.
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And, and more and more information was coming out.
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And of course, those people got brutally attacked.
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Dr. Still Emanuel, they tried to take her medical license and
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there was just so many of them. And you know, George and I were
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kind of on the forefront of all of it, putting out as much as we
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could. But the more you did it, the
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more you got suppressed. And even George put something
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out the other day on TikTok and got suspended.
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George, what was that you put out the other day?
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I can't remember what it was, but you put something out, that
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was it. Was like A and.
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They just suspended. You, it was like a month now.
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It was talking about the FBI raid in Georgia, about the
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election materials and stuff, and then talking about what was
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exposed in hearings and, you know, trials over there within
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the election system. You know the state board, you
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know, they, they did their deep dive talking, just talking about
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it and boom, they knew all the censorship.
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Interesting. Let me let me make a statement
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here for you Joe and then I'll let you take it from there.
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I just, it's interesting that everybody was boasting about,
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you know, Oh yeah, Tik Tok's going to be covered by the US.
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Don't worry about it. The suppression won't be there
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and you won't find any more suppression on YouTube.
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We're going to do this. They finally gave us our channel
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back on YouTube, but they're not our channel.
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They get let us reopen a channel, never giving it back to
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the original. And a lot of it had to do with
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us talking about CDC and Vera's information, which, which is
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supposed to be accurate. I'm not saying it is by any
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means. I don't think it is, but you
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know, let me ask you, as you started to go down this, did you
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feel personal attacks that were the things that happened to you
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along the along maybe even now, but I guess in the beginning,
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did they come after you right away when you came out so
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actively? Well, I guess, you know, I don't
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really even things kind of just bounce right off me, but I guess
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so I did have the cable line to my house cut and I was receiving
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death threats early on. What I so I started in May of
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2020. I guess I can give you a little
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of the background. So I started in May of 2021.
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I like like a lot of people, I'm walking around seeing people
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wearing face masks, falling a little lines on the floor to
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face diapers, the whole thing. And I mean, we had a lockdown
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here in Florida for maybe four months or so.
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And I'm just walking every day in the Publix like the only guy
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without a mask. And you know, once in a while
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I'd see another guy without a mask and I literally would be
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like, hey, normal guy, how you doing?
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They'd laugh and keep walking on because I just wasn't going to
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bend. And you know, Florida, it's a
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concealed carry state. So I was ready to defend myself
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as someone tried to force a mask on me.
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And so, yeah, it was just weird being in this kind of Twilight
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Zone reality. And so I started working like
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May of 2021. And what I was doing is we
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worked and we we worked to replace our board at our county
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Republican Party. And, and I and, and I got it
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done like in a small window of time because the new people that
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came in flipped real quick, but they couldn't do anything at our
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first meeting. So it took 18 months.
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And basically in February of 2023, I got what I called the
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bandit jab resolution passed. It made national news briefly
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and that's what I was getting the death threats and
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everything. But then it got blacked out
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because they, they was like, they started using the 1990s
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playbook and they're like, oh, wait, we don't do that anymore.
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We'll just cancel this. So, but the resolution was, it
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was official resolution by the county party declaring the COVID
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injections to be biological and technological weapons of mass
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destruction and called on the governor of the state of Florida
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and the attorney general to act and enforce our, our law, which
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is in our case here in Florida, it would be Florida statute
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790, which is our weapons of mass destruction law.
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And so, and I got that passed in like 10 counties in Florida, 10
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county parties in Florida, counties across the country, and
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eventually the Idaho Republican Party.
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And then even I reached out to Dan Schultz from precinct
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strategy and we got the Arizona Republican Party to pass the
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resolution. But what happened here in
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Florida is the, the party kind of put a stop to it like they
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weren't allowing, they're pressuring the county chairs not
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to allow to resolution to come up.
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We get a lot of resistance here, a lot of ignorant resistance.
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Listen, a lot of people on the liberty side of the aisle were
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kind of confused cuz they were having them thinking it's a
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choice. And it's like, dude, there's no
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choice on getting a bio weapon. That's like saying you have a
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choice to get raped. I mean, so anyway, So what
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happened then is on March of 2024, I filed what was called.
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But I mean, those resolutions had an impact, especially here
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in Florida because it gave the surgeon general a little cover
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to come out. And the Florida Department of
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Health called for a halt to the injections and, you know, even
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said that they're a threat, potential threat to the human
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genome, which means our species. So in March of 23, I filed what
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was called a writ of mandamus. And that literally means weak.
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That means weak command. I'm sorry.
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Go ahead. No, no, I'm familiar with that.
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I'm. Familiar with that?
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OK. And that I reached out to Karen
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Kingston, got all, you know, she let me use her research and I
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had a really good information in there.
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But Long story short, there that was an attempt to force the
00:18:05
governor, attorney general to enforce the law.
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But Long story short there, there's kind of niche case law
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with Mae Davises. So the court said you can only
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use it for what's called a ministerial duty.
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That's like the governor's got to appoint somebody in 60 days
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or sometimes you can use it with the courts if they're not
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carrying out the duties. So then I lost the appeal on
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that. I did find cases though saying
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that if there's an abuse of discretionary duty, you know,
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you can use the rid of Maine Damus.
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And I'm arguing if you're allowing them to hit us with bio
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weapons, it's a but you're the teleport.
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Is unequivocally that you will find the judiciary and whether
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or not you're, you know, if you're facing a defence council
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or Department of Justice prosecutor, they will manipulate
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and they will act as though a legal document like a writ of
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mandamus or writ of Coram Novus or some other document.
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They will claim that procedurally that wasn't the
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right way to do this or that that.
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And that's one of their first steps.
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They try to block you procedurally.
00:19:00
They'll often, and I've been doing a lot of work with AI and
00:19:03
kind of analyzing different, I guess, rulings, judgments,
00:19:09
emotions by prosecutors and they manipulate and and falsify the
00:19:13
law constantly. The Redman Damus would have been
00:19:15
perfectly, in my opinion, acceptable for what you used it
00:19:17
for. But that's the first thing.
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Try to block your procedurally, try to time bar you try to say
00:19:22
you made an error you didn't file on time.
00:19:24
And and then they, of course, they'll never really focus on
00:19:27
the facts because if they focus on the facts, they would get
00:19:29
beat, you know, most of the time.
00:19:31
But their best thing is just to avoid the facts, you know, And
00:19:34
that's kind of, you know, when I look at the, you know, if you
00:19:36
put a lens on power and you have a lot of clinical training
00:19:39
correct in mental health. Therapist.
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Not a I'm not a medical doctor, but yeah.
00:19:43
Yeah. So how do you know you have to
00:19:45
look at diagnosing? I think it's they call it
00:19:47
psychopathic authoritarianism. And I'm.
00:19:50
You know, that's my, I'm, I'm actually, I've written a book.
00:19:53
I haven't published it yet because I'm editing, but I, it's
00:19:55
called psychopathic authoritarianism, a diseases of
00:19:58
the soul. So I I call it PAD Psychopathic
00:20:01
authoritarian disorder. Yeah.
00:20:03
So it's it's very contagious. It's going to.
00:20:05
Global institutions, let's kind of take the audience through
00:20:08
that, kind of explain them right on this stuff you said.
00:20:11
Let's talk about how that applies in the way the
00:20:12
governments and global institutions might use it
00:20:15
against the populace, specifically like a case like
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COVID. Oh, she's like, I'm giving
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spoilers for it'll be in my book.
00:20:22
OK, So what they what I do want to cycle back to, I do want to
00:20:26
cycle back to my case too, because I have actually beat I
00:20:29
did actually beat them on an appeal already.
00:20:31
So, but what I argue is, is that some of these characteristics we
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all kind of possessed, one of them is sadism.
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It's like, I would say, the worst human quality anybody can
00:20:45
possess. It's like taking pleasure in the
00:20:46
pain of someone else. And, you know, in its benign
00:20:49
forms, we've got like, you know, the slapstick humor, like the
00:20:53
Three Stooges, Someone slips and falls on the snow.
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You kind of chuckle. Then you see your friends OK,
00:20:58
you know, and you, you laugh, you know, when you know they're
00:21:00
OK, that kind of thing. It gets a little worse when you
00:21:02
get into the gossip kind of stuff.
00:21:04
It gets a little more a little more abusive.
00:21:06
But you put someone in that gatekeeper role, like at motor
00:21:10
vehicles or something like that, all of a sudden they go into
00:21:12
power trip. And so it's that sadism and they
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tapped into it. They tapped into the everyday
00:21:17
sadism of the average person. Obviously, there's a lot of fear
00:21:21
too, but they tapped into that sadism.
00:21:23
So the leaders have this sadistic quality because they
00:21:26
know what they did. They know what they did not just
00:21:29
was psychologically tormented to people, but they know that
00:21:31
they've given people something that's going to cause chronic
00:21:34
diseases and illnesses as we move into the future.
00:21:37
Now, most people, you know, are going to die from these shots.
00:21:39
They're going to have a shortened lifespan.
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I'm not saying they're going to die tomorrow, but you know, I
00:21:43
have a heart condition. I'm not going to live as long as
00:21:44
I would if I didn't. And so you have identical twins.
00:21:47
You give one of them asthma, they're not going to live as
00:21:49
long, right? So they tapped into that
00:21:52
everyday sadism. The sadistic quality is present
00:21:55
in the leaders. You see it, they want to mock
00:21:57
and humiliate you. They tapped into the everyday
00:21:59
narcissism as well. And you got different types of
00:22:01
narcissism. You got that communal narcissism
00:22:05
and that's where you need the recognition.
00:22:06
That's where you sort of virtue signaling with the people like
00:22:09
posting the pictures themselves with the mask on social media or
00:22:13
or getting their injections and that kind of thing.
00:22:15
Then you've got that kind of collective narcissism, which
00:22:18
gets a little a little more abusive.
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That's the US versus them thing. You see it with the war and that
00:22:25
kind of thing. So you saw that a lot of that
00:22:27
with COVID. You know, you saw the, you know,
00:22:29
the little, the couple, the young couple walking along the
00:22:32
park or the beach. And then you saw the soccer
00:22:33
moms, you know, with their masks chasing them because they
00:22:35
weren't wearing a mask or something like that.
00:22:37
So I think they tapped into the everyday narcissism as well and
00:22:42
so on. So it's there a lot of these
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qualities, these the, the leaders possessed either
00:22:47
grandiose narcissistic qualities or malignant narcissistic
00:22:52
qualities. And and so it's like those types
00:22:55
of narcissists were manipulating the other type of narcissist a
00:22:58
little bit there. And obviously, fear was a big
00:23:02
factor here. They terrified people.
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And I tell people, look, fear is a false God.
00:23:08
It does not protect you in any way.
00:23:10
You know, you could worry about stuff and it's like you're
00:23:12
giving offerings like to this false God.
00:23:15
It's not going to protect you. You know, unless you're getting
00:23:17
chased by the tiger and you got you're in fight or flight most
00:23:20
of the time. Fear does not in any way protect
00:23:22
you. So yeah, you've got these kind
00:23:24
of collective forces and the, look, the mass media hypnosis
00:23:28
that really gets underestimated by people, just the normal
00:23:31
straightforward power suggesting constantly barraging people.
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We had a whole phony presidential election where in
00:23:38
the presidential debates, 1 DeSantis lied and said he didn't
00:23:42
do a lockdown and nobody even called them out on it.
00:23:44
I mean, if it were real, they would have called them out on
00:23:46
it. 2 Nobody even brought up how deadly these shots were.
00:23:50
So that in itself is an indirect hypnotic suggestion that it's
00:23:53
not an issue. And that's why early on I
00:23:57
decided the reason we're not winning right now and the reason
00:24:00
we haven't won is because other people are afraid to say it's a
00:24:04
bio weapon. That's actually the winning
00:24:06
argument. And that's why anybody that does
00:24:08
take so much Flack because they can't look at the evidence.
00:24:11
And so because people are afraid of being cancelled, afraid of
00:24:13
looking stupid, that kind of thing, that's why we're losing.
00:24:16
Because early on I realized if you're debating whether you can
00:24:20
mandate A bioweapon or not, there's an indirect hypnotic
00:24:25
suggestion there, an Arik Sonian hypnotic suggestion that it's OK
00:24:28
to target us with weapons of mass destruction.
00:24:31
Look, and I got news for you. You cannot be America first and
00:24:35
look the other way while your friends and neighbors, while
00:24:38
Americans are being targeted with biological and
00:24:40
technological weapons of mass destruction.
00:24:43
I call total and complete bullshit on that.
00:24:46
And there's, and there's no doubt that you're right, they've
00:24:48
done a powerful job. I catch myself even, you know,
00:24:52
when, when we're streaming to YouTube and we didn't stream to
00:24:54
YouTube today, I catch myself making those kind of decisions
00:24:57
that I would never normally make because of the manipulation.
00:25:00
Of course, we're trying to keep a truth message out there.
00:25:03
We're trying to get lots of exposure, but you catch yourself
00:25:06
holding back at certain times because you've already been
00:25:09
penalized. So it's kind of like Pavlov's
00:25:11
dog. Of course, they ring the dinner
00:25:12
bell. We all start to salivate and
00:25:14
that's the issue with so many of the people that have been
00:25:18
fighting this from the get go because you've still got an
00:25:20
administration that doesn't want to take, you know, ownership in
00:25:23
any manner of what probably really happened.
00:25:26
We've seen the funding of the Wuhan labs.
00:25:28
We know that Fauci was knee deep.
00:25:30
You know, he became fabulously wealthy during COVID for a
00:25:33
number of reasons. The World Health Organization,
00:25:36
not a fan, you know, FDA, there's all these groups that
00:25:40
are involved that that continue to ply Americans with bad
00:25:44
choices, whether it's nutritionally, whether it's
00:25:47
through vaccines. We covered, you know, a project,
00:25:50
I don't know if you're familiar with it, Operation Artichoke,
00:25:52
which was really originally called Operation Bluebird, which
00:25:55
ran a kind of before in parallel with MK Ultra.
00:25:59
But their plot was to use everything including vaccines to
00:26:04
weaponize individuals in the kind of Manchurian candidate
00:26:07
style assassins. This was ACIA program.
00:26:09
It's been, it's been declassified.
00:26:12
A lot of the information's out. I don't think all of it's out.
00:26:15
But just thinking that that the CIA, if you look at Operation
00:26:18
Sea spray, what they did in San Francisco where they where they
00:26:22
sprayed communities aerosol, released, you know, toxins to
00:26:28
see how well how successful they've been.
00:26:30
They used against prisoners. They used it against, you know,
00:26:34
military, they went in and, and, and made these decisions to
00:26:37
practice medical programming and all sorts of things because
00:26:41
those people are, you know, of course the prisoners were easy.
00:26:42
They were captured. They can control their food,
00:26:44
they can control their medical, they control their environment.
00:26:47
But it's, you know, it's pretty horrendous.
00:26:48
And I, I agree with you. The, you know, the, the
00:26:50
administration has yet to admit that maybe COVID wasn't what
00:26:54
they thought. Donald Trump seems unwilling to
00:26:56
embrace that and admit that he was ill advised.
00:26:59
I think a lot of it was advisement.
00:27:00
I think there's still people around Donald Trump that are ill
00:27:02
advising him. Again, I'm not trying to release
00:27:05
him of any responsibility, but you know, it becomes, you know,
00:27:08
it's not like a mass psychological manipulation where
00:27:11
you know, the, the government, I'm I'm the government and I'm
00:27:13
here to help some of the most dangerous words you ever hear.
00:27:17
Let's talk about mRNA. Let's talk about the biological,
00:27:21
technological portion of it. You, you've done a really deep
00:27:23
dive. You've spent a lot of time, you
00:27:26
know, Doctor Francis Boyle's legal analysis, who, of course,
00:27:30
wrote the US biological weapons law.
00:27:33
He was the one that did it. And you classify the shots as
00:27:36
weapons of mass destruction. Let's talk about what you
00:27:39
discovered while you're on this path and really share with the
00:27:41
audience maybe some of the worst things you found out about the
00:27:44
vaccine. Sure.
00:27:47
And I actually wrote an article recently about Doctor Francis
00:27:50
Boyle's like an overview of his legal view, which is very
00:27:53
detailed. So I can give you kind of a
00:27:54
quick overview of what his legal perspective was.
00:27:57
But you know, there's a lot of arguments about why these are
00:28:01
biological weapons. So these are just his main core
00:28:04
arguments. But you can look into the
00:28:06
patents and the dual use technology.
00:28:08
And you know, you know, one of my colleagues, Dr. And
00:28:11
Mahalchi's done a lot of research with the dark field
00:28:13
microscopy, looking at like the nanotech and that kind of thing,
00:28:16
a lot about the shedding. But.
00:28:18
Yeah, it's, there's a lot there, but Doctor Boyle's arguments,
00:28:23
his core arguments were basically the number one.
00:28:28
The he had 44 core arguments that I kind of reflect that he's
00:28:32
saying ironically, I didn't really use these in my case,
00:28:35
only one of them. But what he's saying is that the
00:28:41
quote UN quote virus was an illegal gain of function by a
00:28:45
weapon, offensive weapon of bio warfare because at the time
00:28:49
there's a moratorium on it and they used illegal get outsourced
00:28:52
and did illegal gain of function research on it.
00:28:55
And there's a paper in 2015 that he cites.
00:28:57
I linked to it in that article, but it's like coronavirus bats
00:29:00
something or other. And he cites his paper in 2015
00:29:04
because it incriminates Walensky Fauci, you know, everybody at
00:29:07
NIH and FDA, because they basically admit that that they
00:29:13
did a legal gain of function research on the COVID virus,
00:29:15
SARS, COV 2, whatever it's called.
00:29:17
But and because of that, they strengthened it basically.
00:29:23
And and that's not for peaceful purposes.
00:29:25
And therefore that makes it a bio weapon.
00:29:28
It's not for prophylactic purposes.
00:29:30
You're strengthening it. That is not for peaceful
00:29:32
purposes, and so that gain of function research made the virus
00:29:36
a biological. Reason to ever strengthen a
00:29:39
virus that somehow I'm missing. I mean, a virus, a serious
00:29:42
virus. I wouldn't care if you can talk
00:29:43
about Ebola, talking to monkey pox, you're talking about, you
00:29:46
know, the COVID. Is there any reason with these
00:29:48
kind of viruses that they should ever be strengthened like that?
00:29:51
Because there's lots of research that seems to point to the fact
00:29:54
that they are doing it. And I myself, I'm trying to
00:29:56
figure out MRMR Natalie, when you talk about COVID it, we
00:30:00
never had that bat crossover. It never went into humans.
00:30:03
It never made that jump up until it was weaponized.
00:30:07
I just can't see why this kind of, you know, this kind of
00:30:10
research or development is even allowed anywhere.
00:30:14
Because why would anybody want to have a change?
00:30:15
Because of course we all, I mean, there's a lab link.
00:30:18
Maybe it was intentional. We don't really know the facts.
00:30:21
Well, Lance, it's really not. I mean, it does violate the
00:30:23
Biological Weapons Convention. I mean, that's what because
00:30:27
they, you know, the Biological Weapons and Anti Terrorism Act
00:30:30
of 89 that Boyle Rd. was the US domestic legislation of the
00:30:34
Biological Weapons Convention. And so their argument, their
00:30:37
cover argument might be, well, we want to strengthen it.
00:30:39
You know, it's tested. So this way we'll be prepared to
00:30:41
deal with any evolutionary leaps of it or something like that.
00:30:44
But I think that's just all BS. But.
00:30:47
Don't viruses normally get weaker as they're out and
00:30:50
they're tested when they when they get released and all of a
00:30:52
sudden they make the crossover to the human population.
00:30:55
They don't normally get stronger.
00:30:56
They actually go in the reverse because our immune system starts
00:30:58
attack, we develop some kind of immunity, right?
00:31:01
It seems like they normally start to do that.
00:31:03
Is that not, am I not wrong right about that?
00:31:05
Maybe I'm not. That's my understand.
00:31:07
That's my understanding too, but I'm not a virologist either.
00:31:11
That's my understanding as well. But so his argument was the
00:31:15
virus was developed for illegal gain of functional research
00:31:17
offensive bioweapon, right? The derivatives of that were in
00:31:21
the COVID injections. That makes the COVID injections
00:31:26
a bioweapon like the, you know, the spike protein and so on.
00:31:29
The derivatives of that were in the COVID injection.
00:31:32
And the beauty of this argument is so simple is that it shows
00:31:35
specific intent. Now under the specific intent
00:31:39
kind of umbrella, he also, he also argues that the the lipid
00:31:44
nanoparticles was the Pentagon developed dual use technology
00:31:48
through DARPA. So he's arguing after specific
00:31:50
intent too. In fact, in his affidavit the
00:31:53
the transcript of the interview that he included with it in my
00:31:55
case, he is literally talking about how they aerosolized the
00:31:59
virus itself early on with nanotechnology.
00:32:02
But OK, so that's the specific intent argument.
00:32:05
It's very simple, but I think very clean argument showing
00:32:09
specific intent. He did also support the
00:32:11
knowingness argument of intent. So you got specific intent here.
00:32:14
Knowing this is a little down here, so I, I rely on knowing
00:32:17
this kind of standard a lot in my case, in my second case that
00:32:21
I filed here that's pending right now.
00:32:23
And what I'm saying was. Sansone DeSantis case or is that
00:32:26
a different case? Yeah.
00:32:28
Yeah. So the first one is.
00:32:29
That in the appellate court right now or have you already?
00:32:32
Correct the, the and I'm going to I'm going to give you Boyle's
00:32:34
arguments. I'll cycle back to that.
00:32:36
But basically, yes, my, my mandamus.
00:32:38
I lost the appeal in October of 2024, filed the new case in
00:32:42
December 1 of 202413 appellate court won an appeal back in the
00:32:47
trial court back in the appellate court and I'll detail
00:32:50
that in a minute. But so that's the specific
00:32:52
argument to knowing this standard of intent is basically
00:32:55
that okay, these shots are killing people, they're causing
00:32:58
disabilities, disease and so on. There's no not only is there no
00:33:01
prophylactic effect, the study showed there's a negative
00:33:03
efficacy. And so yet you're still out
00:33:07
there saying it's safe and effective and, and lying to
00:33:10
people. And, you know, according to the
00:33:12
Pfizer versus cancer case, as early as December of 2020 that,
00:33:17
you know, your typical deep state bureaucrats knew that
00:33:20
these were harmful and they lied about it.
00:33:22
And now I think it's pretty planned and part of a broader
00:33:25
depopulation transhumanist agenda.
00:33:27
But just going on that right there that shows knowingness.
00:33:31
And I use that in my case also regarding RFK Junior.
00:33:34
But so that's basically the knowingness standard.
00:33:38
I mean, I'm, I'm condensing. And then he also supported what
00:33:43
was called malice aforethought. This goes with from from common
00:33:47
law. And basically that's a a
00:33:50
reckless disregard for human life.
00:33:53
Like you knew this was danger. You went forward with it.
00:33:55
You knew it was dangerous anyway.
00:33:56
And he argues in his book Resisting Mental Tyranny, that
00:34:00
you could literally charge Fauci Burla, the head, you know, all
00:34:04
the pharmaceutical companies, you could charge them because of
00:34:06
Alice and forthwith murder and conspiracy to commit murder and
00:34:10
so. Just step further, because if
00:34:11
they had knowledge and they still went forward, let's assume
00:34:15
for a moment that Fauci knew it was dangerous for a number of
00:34:18
reasons, you went forward anyway.
00:34:19
That would be Mens re of a crime with.
00:34:21
That would be the knowingness. That would be the knowingness
00:34:24
standard of attempt where specific intent is like you can
00:34:27
show that you and there's an e-mail saying, hey, Lance, let's
00:34:30
unleash this next week. Although the gain of function is
00:34:33
showing specific intent by their actions because it ended up in
00:34:37
the, in the quote UN quote vaccine.
00:34:39
And then, and then the 4th main argument, he, and I'm not saying
00:34:42
that Doctor Boyle did not support other arguments.
00:34:44
These are just his main arguments.
00:34:45
And he did. And the fourth argument that he
00:34:47
put out there was the Nuremberg Code and informed consent.
00:34:50
And even while the Nuremberg Code itself isn't binding,
00:34:53
every, every state or country has a informed consent law of
00:34:57
some kind. In fact, I don't know the
00:34:59
statute. I really got to look it up, but
00:35:01
Doctor Remo Lebo recently told me that the Nuremberg Code was
00:35:04
actually based on the US federal statute on informed consent.
00:35:08
I didn't know we had a statute before the law, and she's saying
00:35:11
that there's actually a capital punishment in there.
00:35:14
So I do want to look up that law, but.
00:35:16
I think it would be important. George, let me ask, you didn't
00:35:19
chat asking any specific questions about what we're
00:35:21
discussing or do you have anything you want to add to
00:35:24
where we're at? No questions yet as of yet in
00:35:27
the chat, I'm just working on something back back in Lance
00:35:29
with Rumble. OK, OK.
00:35:31
I just want to make sure I don't want to let you think I wanted
00:35:32
to leave you out of this is that, you know, George is
00:35:35
interesting. He had extremely high immunity,
00:35:38
never had any issues. I caught COVID twice, at least
00:35:40
based on the the you know, the saliva test.
00:35:44
I never did any of those, you know, nasal brain, brain probing
00:35:50
test. I was always concerned about
00:35:52
people sticking that swab way up into my nasal cavity.
00:35:56
I'd heard a lot of stories about that, but I'd done some saliva
00:35:58
tests when they came out and really, it wasn't a big deal.
00:36:01
I took the protocols, went and got right through it.
00:36:04
George actually lost a family member because they used
00:36:08
remdesivir on this show. We call it Run Death is Near,
00:36:11
but I'm on a vent. And of course, that liquefied
00:36:13
his organs. Things didn't go well, and that
00:36:16
was another thing that they pushed across country.
00:36:18
I always get these ventilators in every hospital.
00:36:20
Even Donald Trump raved about how he's going to get
00:36:22
ventilators in every hospital. But, you know, I don't know how
00:36:25
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00:36:28
lot of advisement around him. I don't know what his knowledge
00:36:30
base was. I don't think he ever claimed
00:36:32
that he was knowledgeable. Let's talk about your, your the
00:36:36
Sandstone mRNA Bioets and Prohibition Act.
00:36:40
But when we come back, I know we got to take a short break.
00:36:42
We'll take a break. We'll be right back with Doctor
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Joseph and and of course, George Sansone and George Ballantine.
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Doc's about to reveal how DeSantis talks a big game in the
00:42:00
state but really are not pulling through.
00:42:01
I mean, you know, Doc his I get what is it?
00:42:06
Who's the health guy that is in charge of the state?
00:42:07
What do you call him again? Doctor Doctor Joseph Ludipo is
00:42:10
our surgeon General. Surgeon general from Florida, he
00:42:13
talks a big game too. I mean what that what's going on
00:42:15
tell us people, we. Want to know, All right, so I
00:42:20
lost that appeal on that first rid of Maine, Damon.
00:42:22
So I filed a new case on December 1st of 2024.
00:42:25
It was a complaint seeking an injunction to prohibit the
00:42:28
governor, attorney general, continued attorney general, not
00:42:32
surgeon general, from continuing to facilitate the MRI injections
00:42:35
because they're biological and technological weapons of mass
00:42:37
destruction, violating our weapons of mass destruction law
00:42:41
here in Florida. And I was also seeking
00:42:43
declaratory judgments. What I argued in my case is so
00:42:48
back in 20, 23 and April 2023, I didn't let anybody know it at
00:42:52
the time until afterward, but I had on April 1st, I woke up in
00:42:56
congestive heart failure, couldn't breathe like 3:30 in
00:42:58
the morning, went into the ER and I ended up on the 10th of
00:43:02
April having triple bypass heart surgery.
00:43:04
In fact, while I was in the hospital, I was doing two
00:43:06
things. One, I was getting unvaccinated
00:43:07
blood in case I needed it, which I didn't.
00:43:09
And then the other thing is I got Doctor Francis Boyle who
00:43:12
already supported my band and jab Resolution.
00:43:14
I got him to publicly endorse it and got him on a really big
00:43:17
podcast at the, I actually got him on a, the podcast at the
00:43:19
same exact time I was getting operated on.
00:43:21
I figured it'd be a good party shot.
00:43:23
But so though, like I said earlier, those did have an
00:43:26
effect. The governor, the attorney
00:43:27
general did you know, call for a halt to the surgeon general did
00:43:30
call for a halt to the shots and everything in the Florida
00:43:32
Department of Health on official bulletins, you know, but nothing
00:43:35
happened. So that's why I did the main day
00:43:37
miss and then said, OK, we're in the second case.
00:43:39
I'm in December of 2024. I had like 9 affidavits.
00:43:43
I was just about to get another one from Doctor James Thorpe.
00:43:46
I'm up to 11 now because I got two more when I went back.
00:43:49
So what happened is the the court dismisses my case and had
00:43:53
a bunch of reasons, said I didn't state a clear cause of
00:43:56
action, etcetera. Even said like I can't try to
00:44:00
force the prosecution now. Nowhere in my complaint and I
00:44:02
asked her for a prosecution. So that didn't make any sense.
00:44:05
So Long story short there, I appealed on 8 issues.
00:44:08
So some of them hardcore constitutional issues about
00:44:11
these Sabaya weapons and so on, but a couple of them procedural
00:44:15
and one of them was, is that I wasn't allowed to amend my
00:44:18
complaint. So she, the court's saying I
00:44:20
have a problem with the complaint, you should be able to
00:44:21
amend it. And what happened was, is she
00:44:25
did not dismiss my case with prejudice, which if they
00:44:27
dismissed your case with prejudice, it means you cannot
00:44:29
amend your complaint. You'd have to appeal it, right?
00:44:31
She didn't do that, but she threatened me with sanctions if
00:44:33
I continue to file more for more lawsuits and said she would not
00:44:38
entertain any further emotions. So I immediately appealed it.
00:44:42
And one of my arguments was I wasn't allowed to amend a
00:44:44
complaint. So the appellate court, what
00:44:46
they did on November 12th of 2024, 5/20/25, they, they, they
00:44:52
actually ruled in my favor. At first I thought I lost
00:44:54
because they dismissed the case. But then what they did is they
00:44:57
dismissed the case and said it was still active in the lower
00:45:00
court and I can amend my complaint, you know, which is
00:45:03
despite her orders because they could not reverse and remand it
00:45:07
because she didn't dismiss it with prejudice.
00:45:08
So you know, the courts, I get it, we're, I know what we're
00:45:12
dealing with, but the First District Court of Appeal in
00:45:14
Florida actually did the right thing there.
00:45:16
They looked at everything. They saw a clear procedural off
00:45:18
ramp and they took it and they, you know, they said no, he can
00:45:21
amend his complaint. They sent me back to the trial
00:45:23
court. So I'm back in the trial court
00:45:25
here in November to December of 2025 now.
00:45:29
And I met, I do a short amendment on my complaint.
00:45:31
What I did is I shifted from the weapons of mass destruction law,
00:45:34
although I'm still saying it's a biological, technological weapon
00:45:37
of mass destruction, and it's in our constitutional rights.
00:45:40
And I say which parts of our Florida Constitution.
00:45:43
What I did is I used the Florida health freedom law.
00:45:45
We have a health freedom law here which prohibits the
00:45:52
coercing of any EUA product, face masks and marine injections
00:45:56
and so on. And so I'm arguing that the
00:45:58
involuntary environmental exposure from the shedding is in
00:46:01
fact forced or coerced injection.
00:46:05
Now, now Governor DeSantis, they fought on me.
00:46:07
They fought. They filed A brief and argued to
00:46:09
keep their shots on the market in my first rid of Maine Damus
00:46:12
in the appellate court. But on the last appeal, they
00:46:15
didn't file anything because they never got served a summons
00:46:18
because the court dismissed it before.
00:46:19
I can get one. Now this case, what happened
00:46:22
was, is my case gets dismissed again and the court, you know,
00:46:26
she's saying I didn't state A cause of action again, which is,
00:46:29
it was weak. But so then I, I, when I did my
00:46:32
motion for rehearing, I even gave him a proposed Second
00:46:34
Amendment complaint curing any of her alleged defects.
00:46:37
She denied it again. So back in the appellate court,
00:46:39
I'm appealing on like 7 issues this time, most of them
00:46:43
procedural. One of them is that this is a
00:46:46
novel issue of great public importance.
00:46:48
And you know, because this is a weapon of mass destruction
00:46:50
causing disease, disability and death and so on, we need
00:46:54
evidentiary development. So I'm in the appellate core.
00:46:57
I filed my appeal on December 18th of 2025.
00:47:00
Ten days later, I on the 28th, I filed A-75 page appellate brief.
00:47:05
I was trying to get it done by Christmas because I want to
00:47:06
deliver it to DeSantis on Christmas, but I couldn't do it.
00:47:09
I mean, literally Christmas Eve, I was going from 9:00 in the
00:47:12
morning till 3:30 in the morning on Christmas Eve.
00:47:15
And then Christmas Day I went from like 9:00 in the morning to
00:47:16
10 at night. I just couldn't get it done in
00:47:18
time. So anyway, So what happens is,
00:47:20
is the deadline for their answer brief was January 27th or 28th.
00:47:24
I get a few days beforehand the attorney for the state, for the
00:47:28
governor, attorney general request a 60 day extension, not
00:47:32
3060 days. So they need 90 days to answer a
00:47:34
brief. I wrote in 10 days.
00:47:36
I did something right with it, I think.
00:47:38
And so they've got to March 30, the court granted it.
00:47:41
They've got to March 30 to to do that answer brief.
00:47:46
So people need to understand that answer brief means the
00:47:48
governor of state of Florida is fighting to keep mRNA on the
00:47:52
market. He could just simply sign a
00:47:54
consent agreement. So I'm waiting for the answer
00:47:57
brief. But one thing the court did that
00:47:59
was good as they took judicial notice of my prior appeal
00:48:02
because this is the same appellate court and 1.
00:48:04
So what happened in my prior appeal too, is I fought a lot of
00:48:07
supplemental authorities. RFK Junior speaking in his
00:48:11
official capacity, doing a press release, a press conference
00:48:14
where he said the COVID were not effective for for covert or flu,
00:48:19
but the risk that way to benefit.
00:48:20
I argue in my first appeal that that actually shows criminal
00:48:23
intent on behalf of RK Junior in the federal government from that
00:48:27
point forward at least. I also filed like Doctor
00:48:31
Latapose statement that the MRA shots are poisoned when he was
00:48:35
speaking in his official capacity.
00:48:36
So what happened here is I was back in the trial court now and
00:48:40
before this appeal, how I got dismissed was I did a motion for
00:48:42
emergency preliminary injunction with an evidentiary hearing with
00:48:46
six witnesses and you have to list your witnesses and this is
00:48:49
important. You have to list your witnesses
00:48:51
and your exhibits. I had a lot of evidence there,
00:48:54
including like a study showing a three-year mortality rate with
00:48:58
my ejection only 15 to 20%. I provided evidence of that and
00:49:02
a study showing a three-year mortality rate.
00:49:04
I provided a study with showing the shedding that half of the
00:49:08
unvaccinated women had the MRA in them and then stuff like
00:49:12
that. But I also.
00:49:15
In my list Desantis's position. Well, wait, one more thing,
00:49:18
because it's real important before you answer that question
00:49:19
because you're going to want to notice in my motion for the
00:49:23
emergency injunction preliminary hearing, I list my witnesses.
00:49:26
I'm one of them 'cause I'm going to introduce evidence, Doctor
00:49:28
Anna Mahalchia, Nick Hulscher, Dr. Zivyets, Dr. Vila.
00:49:34
And I also list there that I'm going to subpoena Surgeon
00:49:37
General Doctor Joseph Latapo in my case.
00:49:40
And I think that's why I got kicked right out real quick
00:49:43
again. And because not for privilege
00:49:46
information, but he has made public statements in this
00:49:49
official capacity saying that these are poison, OK.
00:49:51
And he's part of the executive branch.
00:49:53
So by me subpoenaing him, that splits that whole separation of
00:49:57
powers argument because no, he's the executive branch.
00:49:59
He serves at the pleasure of the governor.
00:50:01
And so my case got dismissed to Esponte again.
00:50:04
And but she was supposed to do a fertility argument.
00:50:07
I have a lot of strong procedural arguments in this
00:50:09
appeal. I think my case is stronger than
00:50:10
last time. Sorry, go ahead.
00:50:12
No, but that's what they do, procedurals, the weapon, they
00:50:15
have to weaponize the system against you because usually it's
00:50:18
out of ignorance. Of course, now that there's AI
00:50:20
available, you can challenge them very, very sophisticated
00:50:23
manner. It changes the whole dynamic and
00:50:26
it doesn't matter. That's the problem they have now
00:50:28
that now that people are using AI because you might be able to
00:50:32
write a very powerful motion. And you just have to, but you
00:50:35
just have to really double check because AI makes a lot of
00:50:37
mistakes and it synthesizes, it'll synthesize 2 cases
00:50:41
together and you'll think this is great.
00:50:43
You'll look up, well, that's not even a real case.
00:50:45
So you got to actually. Hallucinate, I think is what
00:50:48
they call hallucination. But yeah, although it's gotten
00:50:50
tremendously better. I used it, you know, started
00:50:52
using about two years ago for some illegal analysis, and I
00:50:55
noticed it's made serious lightspeed jumps over the last
00:51:00
two years. It's a whole different game now.
00:51:02
It doesn't do as much of that hallucination.
00:51:04
It's pretty accurate. Yeah.
00:51:05
You should always, definitely, no matter what, you should
00:51:07
always check your cert, your citations.
00:51:09
You never want to take a chance that it's misquoted.
00:51:11
But they do a lot of that. They'll misquote the law of the
00:51:13
misinterpret and they try to use, they hope that, you know,
00:51:18
Doctor Sansone is ignorant. They hope that he doesn't know
00:51:20
the law. That's how they weaponize the
00:51:22
system. Let's talk about the Sansone
00:51:24
mRNA Bio Weapon Prohibition Act. You've made a move into three
00:51:28
states. I'm just curious.
00:51:30
You know that we've got some federal congressional members
00:51:33
that appear that they want to make a difference.
00:51:35
RFK acts like he wants to make a difference.
00:51:38
You know, are you getting any support out of the feds?
00:51:40
Is there anybody that's jumping on board saying this is a great
00:51:42
idea, let's try to push this forward.
00:51:44
No, I am probably like you know, I'm in like shadow band hell.
00:51:47
In fact my ex account was just hacked Sunday.
00:51:49
Still trying to get it back. You know, coincidence as I'm
00:51:52
going to the Netherlands, But so no, no, not at all.
00:51:57
I mean, look, people need to understand something.
00:51:59
The FDA commissioner, he can pull the shots immediately, is
00:52:02
the power. RKK Junior, he at least stopped
00:52:04
the shots. He has the power to do it.
00:52:06
It's been done before. Kathleen Sebelius did it with
00:52:08
like in I think 2011 or 12 with contraceptives where she made it
00:52:12
like we're underage kids couldn't get contraceptives
00:52:15
without a prescription. She overruled the FDA
00:52:16
commissioner. So RFK Junior can pull the shots
00:52:19
like that. OK.
00:52:21
So either he's a coward or corrupt or out of touch.
00:52:24
We know he's not out of touch. He knows he or buy a weapon.
00:52:26
So I mean, somebody already introduced him, that guy who
00:52:28
wrote that book to really Anthony Fauci might teach him a
00:52:30
thing. But so I mean, they they know
00:52:34
they're just. So no, I have not, you know,
00:52:37
resistance. It doesn't surprise me that you
00:52:39
don't have any federal support, right?
00:52:41
Often when something is over the target and is going to fix an
00:52:44
actual real issue, it seems like everybody scatters.
00:52:47
You know, they're all cowards on both sides of the aisle and even
00:52:49
the administration has got people in place.
00:52:52
I expected more out of Pam Bondi and Cash Patel for whatever
00:52:55
reason. I don't know if they're being
00:52:57
controlled. I don't know if they're not
00:52:58
being allowed, Lance. Look, I'm right wing.
00:53:01
I've been right wing for a long time.
00:53:02
I've never been on the left. I mean, I was right wing when
00:53:05
Donald Trump was an open borders liberal, you know, when he ran
00:53:07
for the Reform Party, when he went on Oprah Winfrey to be his
00:53:09
running mate. So, you know, I was in a
00:53:10
Buchanan campaign. So it's like, but I'm gonna tell
00:53:13
you, don't. People should not fall into the
00:53:15
game of being quiet when your side's in there.
00:53:18
So it's like we're against ABC and D when the Democrats are in
00:53:22
there, but all of a sudden now we're gonna be quiet on
00:53:24
programmable money, We're gonna be quiet on digital IDs and etc.
00:53:28
It's like, no, it's a unit party and you gotta accept it and
00:53:33
never cheer for your politicians.
00:53:35
What you do is you get out of stick and you beat them and you
00:53:38
whip them until they do what they're supposed to do.
00:53:40
That is your relationship to your politician.
00:53:43
Because these people are narcissistic sycophants that get
00:53:47
in the past, they might have found somebody in office and
00:53:49
corrupted them. Now they find corrupt people,
00:53:52
run them up the flagpole and look, we don't even know if the
00:53:54
whole damn thing is fake. With computer voting.
00:53:56
I mean, come on. It's like trusting the slot
00:53:58
machine. And I can tell you going to
00:53:59
these conventions, people will cheat right in front of you if
00:54:02
they can get away with it. When it comes to voting,
00:54:05
everybody will see needs to be totally transparent.
00:54:08
Sorry when I ran. Lance, let me, I'm going to
00:54:09
Lance, let me interrupt because I got a question from Jackalo
00:54:13
Stacy. They want to know what do you
00:54:15
recommend to detox from the spike protein from the vax or?
00:54:21
Did you, you know, I, I'm not a medical doctor.
00:54:24
I mean, I kind of know a lot talking to them, but I don't
00:54:26
think I should give you any kind of medical advice like that.
00:54:30
I mean, Doctor Anna Mahaci's got protocols out there.
00:54:32
Doctor Peter Mccullough's got people got different approaches
00:54:35
and, you know, different things might work for different people,
00:54:38
but I don't think I should really say what I what I think
00:54:40
on that too much. OK, fair enough.
00:54:43
I think that's safe enough. But they can always go check out
00:54:45
Doctor Peter McCullough and others.
00:54:47
There are other people that have protocols.
00:54:49
We try not to give medical advice when they show you there.
00:54:50
But let's switch up here. The Great Reset is on trial in
00:54:54
the Netherlands. You're preparing to testify as a
00:54:56
witness in the civil case alleging bio warfare and
00:55:01
genocide that's been filed against the Bill Gates, Albert
00:55:05
Burla, Mark Root from NATO, the Dutch state and others.
00:55:09
And of course, they're calling it the Great Reset on trial.
00:55:12
Can you, can you tell us what's going on there?
00:55:14
Are these guys in trouble? Does it look like this case is
00:55:17
really going to do something? What's the strategy in the case?
00:55:20
And I guess what are you going to be testifying specifically?
00:55:23
When you and when are you going? Is it in a week, two weeks?
00:55:25
When do you actually go to? The hearing is on the the hear.
00:55:27
I'm going pretty soon this weekend.
00:55:29
I think the hearings on March 9th, Monday, March 9th.
00:55:31
So I think the hearings from 9:00 to 4:00.
00:55:33
I'm sorry. I think the hearings from 11:00
00:55:35
to 4:00 and then the press conference will be out like 5:00
00:55:37
PM Netherlands time which is 6 hours ahead of us.
00:55:41
So this case they, they reached out to me in 2024 like after I
00:55:47
did my rid of Maine Damas. And then I don't know if it was
00:55:50
just when they were filing the case or even before they filed
00:55:51
it because I shared info with them.
00:55:53
And then in October of 2024, they survived the motion to
00:55:59
dismiss. So this case, it has been moving
00:56:01
forward. And this is a this is a civil
00:56:03
case on behalf of seven plaintiffs, One died.
00:56:06
So it's six plaintiffs now that were injured by the bio weapon
00:56:09
injections in the case. The case, you know, the, it's a
00:56:13
pretty long brief. The case alleges the use of that
00:56:15
the ejections were bio weapons. It it alleges the crime and
00:56:18
genocide. So it's it's pretty hard hitting
00:56:21
complain. The defendants in it are Bill
00:56:24
Gates, Albert Burla, Pfizer, Mark Rut, who was the former
00:56:31
Prime Minister of the Netherlands, who's now the
00:56:33
secretary of NATO and a bunch of other Dutch officials.
00:56:38
And so the case I want. To tell the audience, because
00:56:39
they may not know this Doctor Francis Boyle died recently
00:56:43
right under some very. Yeah, So what happens?
00:56:47
Was conditions, am I right? Let maybe you'd share that with
00:56:49
you and you're actually going to be stepping into his role as an
00:56:53
expert witness because you understand the 1989 US
00:56:56
Biological weapons Anti Terrorism Act, I guess just as
00:56:59
well as he does. Maybe at this point, maybe even
00:57:01
better because you've spent so much time looking at it.
00:57:04
Well, I don't know, he probably had about 40 or 50 points on the
00:57:06
IQ on me. You know, when it comes to PhDs,
00:57:08
Lance, I'm kind of like Forrest Bump, like a little below
00:57:10
average. But so Doctor Boyle, I, I hope
00:57:15
the rain for him to testify in the case.
00:57:18
And about 3 weeks later he died. He went to the hospital and
00:57:21
died. And nobody really what he died.
00:57:25
From actually, I, it was never put out.
00:57:27
Nobody knows what he died of. So I didn't know the family or
00:57:30
anything. So it's not like I could say,
00:57:31
hey, what happened, you know, And so nobody knows.
00:57:35
You know my, I knew Doctor Boyle because he used, he was an
00:57:37
advisor at National Arm and I sit on the board there still.
00:57:40
So he would, he would sit in every other week on our on our
00:57:43
meetings, you know, as an advisor.
00:57:45
But so yeah, he died like 3 weeks later unexpectedly.
00:57:50
Now, I do know he was about 74 years old.
00:57:52
He still taught law full time, though.
00:57:54
He was still a full time law professor and pretty active.
00:57:58
But I don't know if you know his health condition.
00:58:00
But yeah, he died about 3 weeks later.
00:58:01
All we know is he went to the hospital and, you know, died at
00:58:04
the hospital. Did he just have a heart attack
00:58:06
or was he targeted? I have no idea.
00:58:09
You know, I don't speculate too much on that because I don't
00:58:12
want to encourage cowardice. I mean, because that's part of
00:58:14
the problem. Everybody's a coward.
00:58:16
But I don't rule out foul play, though.
00:58:18
But I can tell you this, the only people that knew he was
00:58:20
going to testify was myself, the attorneys and I guess the other
00:58:23
witnesses, which the witnesses in this case are myself, Doctor
00:58:27
Michael Eadon, Sasha Ladapova, Catherine Austin Fitz and
00:58:31
Catherine Watt. And so the court didn't even
00:58:35
know he's going to testify yet. However, all of our emails and
00:58:37
phone conversations are, you know, the NSA and everybody
00:58:40
follows everything. So he could have very well been
00:58:43
targeted. And so.
00:58:46
So he could have been targeted. Yeah.
00:58:47
My understanding is I'll be testifying to what his legal
00:58:50
view was. And I can also authenticate the
00:58:52
fact that he gave the affidavit in my case, which, again, it's
00:58:56
not just an expert legal opinion.
00:58:57
It shows legislative intent. And So what this hearing is
00:59:02
about, so the case is moving forward.
00:59:04
This is not like my appeal. My case was dismissed.
00:59:07
I'm appealing to get back into the trial court.
00:59:09
This case is still in the trial court.
00:59:11
This is like their version of an interlocutory appeal.
00:59:14
What they're appealing here is the trial court made a decision
00:59:17
to not allow witnesses in the case and not allow the
00:59:20
independent media and the public into the trial court.
00:59:23
So those two decisions were appealed.
00:59:26
And this appellate hearing, that's what it's about.
00:59:28
But on a positive kind of sign, if you want to read the tea
00:59:31
leaves, is the appellate court is allowing the witnesses to be
00:59:35
present. That's why I'm going there and
00:59:37
they're allowing. And I believe myself, Sasalata
00:59:41
Pover and Katherine Watt will be there.
00:59:43
I don't believe the other two witnesses will be there for this
00:59:45
hearing because they might ask us questions, but we're not
00:59:48
actually going to be testifying yet.
00:59:49
And there's, but they're also allowing the independent media
00:59:51
and the public into this courtroom for the hearing, for
00:59:54
the appellate hearing, you know, so the two issues they're
00:59:57
deciding on for this actual hearing, they're allowing to
01:00:00
occur. So I think that's kind of a
01:00:01
positive sign from the court if they're signaling anything that
01:00:05
makes sense. It's interesting.
01:00:07
What do you think? What's your take?
01:00:09
Do you think it's pretty clear cut?
01:00:11
Is the court playing games over there or do you think the court
01:00:14
in the Netherlands is very interested in seeing a positive
01:00:17
outcome for this case? You can sometimes text the
01:00:19
temperament of the court based on their responses and behavior.
01:00:22
Do you think they're actually going to, you know, is it, what
01:00:25
if you had to give odds? Are they going to rule in favor
01:00:28
of your team or do you think they're going to side with Gates
01:00:31
and Borla and. For this hearing, for this
01:00:34
hearing, my, my feeling is they probably will rule in favor of
01:00:39
the plaintiffs like to, to allow to, to, to cause the hearing is
01:00:44
about allowing the cameras and the independent media and the
01:00:46
public into the courtroom and the witnesses.
01:00:48
And they're allowing all that at the hearing.
01:00:49
So to me, I'm just thinking, you know, they're going to, they're
01:00:52
going to tell the trial court they need to do that.
01:00:55
I mean, I don't know because I don't know.
01:00:57
I don't believe they have a jury.
01:00:58
I don't know that they have a jury system there like we do
01:01:00
here. I think a jury case and a civil
01:01:02
case like this against Bill Gates and Albert Burla would be
01:01:05
easy to win because people don't like that.
01:01:08
And I think so many people know people have been injured by the
01:01:10
shots. It would just be, I mean, you'd
01:01:12
have to find like somebody from Antarctica or something that
01:01:15
would be an impartial jurist, I guess.
01:01:17
But so I don't know, they could have a situation where the judge
01:01:21
like, so I in my case, like when I asked for them to reverse and
01:01:24
remand it, I asked for another judge, not just also, I also
01:01:27
found a case where she made a statement that the state of
01:01:30
Florida didn't mishandle COVID in any way.
01:01:32
So I'm asking to reassign a case because of that too, because
01:01:35
that's the predicate of my whole case.
01:01:36
But so they might have a situation where the trial court
01:01:39
judge is kind of activists and the appellate court is just like
01:01:43
in my case, the appellate court is just honestly acting.
01:01:45
So the appellate court right now looks favorable.
01:01:48
I don't know if they got a, you know, a bad judge at the trial
01:01:51
court or not, but that that sometimes you can run into that.
01:01:54
The issue is you got a judge who's just not doing things
01:01:57
right at the trial. Then you go to the appellate
01:01:59
court, they do. It's like a, you know, a good
01:02:00
cop, bad cop thing and you go back and forth.
01:02:02
But I feel good about this appeal.
01:02:04
I don't know about the overall case, but you know, I think
01:02:07
public opinion does fact things and I actually posted the live
01:02:11
stream for this Netherlands hearing coming up just today.
01:02:15
If you guys want to steal that and share that later at any
01:02:17
point because that's on the 9th so people can actually watch
01:02:20
the. Hearing.
01:02:21
When is that hearing? It's on the ninth Monday the
01:02:24
9th. I just posted the live stream
01:02:26
link. What time on my website 9 it
01:02:28
well, it's I think it's 11 to 4 Netherlands time and the press
01:02:32
conference is 5:00 PM, but they're six hours ahead of us.
01:02:37
So that would make it like 5 to. 911 to wait.
01:02:40
OK, but 11 to 4 is the what again?
01:02:43
That's Netherlands time, that's the hearing and then.
01:02:46
That's what we want, the hearing, yeah.
01:02:48
Yeah. And then the press conference
01:02:49
afterward is at 5:00 PM where the attorney and all of us will
01:02:52
be. But.
01:02:53
You have an embedded link or something for that?
01:02:56
Yeah, yeah, I. Just posted.
01:02:56
Let's do this George. I was going to have you pull up
01:02:59
his website. George.
01:03:00
That's what I was. Going to because I have a
01:03:01
website. Yeah, he's got a sub stack.
01:03:03
Go to. Santone.com.
01:03:04
Yeah, it's in his bio. Yeah, it's not a website.
01:03:07
It's sub stack. I got it.
01:03:08
It's going to take me a minute. Yeah.
01:03:12
I'm standing me not sub stack. Damn it, let's do.
01:03:14
This let's share with the audience how they follow you,
01:03:16
how they can participate, you know, where they can, you know,
01:03:19
get out of your sub stack. Where best thing is my website
01:03:22
which is my sub stack Joseph sansone.com and you can just my
01:03:25
newsletter is free. You can subscribe to it.
01:03:27
I update everything on my case and my bill there.
01:03:30
My bill is, I think it might move forward in Tennessee at
01:03:34
this point. We thought we're going to get
01:03:36
blocked, but, you know, we're just waiting to get back from
01:03:38
legal. So I'd like to get it to vote
01:03:41
somewhere. Even if it doesn't pass, it's
01:03:43
moving the issue and then you bring it back it.
01:03:46
You know, it's tough with the states because they move out
01:03:48
quick. But yeah, right on my website,
01:03:49
josephsanzon.com, you can. I actually have a template on
01:03:52
there too. By the way, I have all 50 state
01:03:54
versions of the bill. Little bill is a federal
01:03:57
version. It's like an article that says
01:03:59
I'm going to war. Will you join me?
01:04:01
And I also have 55 country versions of it.
01:04:04
But I think you see to the I think it's the top right one
01:04:07
there. If you click on that one, that's
01:04:09
the one to link. I think about.
01:04:12
No, you see the top right one where you see the the people
01:04:14
like in the I'm pointing as if you can see where I'm pointing
01:04:17
the article on to the right, like where you see the people in
01:04:19
World War 2. Is that the link?
01:04:22
Yeah, I think I got the link there.
01:04:23
Right. Oh, you know what?
01:04:31
I'm sorry. Go back and it's a little
01:04:33
further down. I didn't pin it up top.
01:04:36
My apologies. So click back, like back to the
01:04:40
main page. Sorry, no.
01:04:42
It's OK, I was just reading something on it.
01:04:44
Yeah, Scroll down and you'll see like the right there,
01:04:47
Netherlands link live stream for Netherlands is like the like
01:04:56
it's got that same picture. Yeah, there you go.
01:05:00
That's right there. OK.
01:05:02
Yep, Yep, that's the link. So if people want to follow that
01:05:04
case and see you know, I'd see I think to answer your question
01:05:07
how it's gonna go, I think the more exposure we can get.
01:05:10
The reason they censor this stuff is because they don't want
01:05:12
public opinion. But the more exposure these guys
01:05:14
get my case too, but certainly this case cuz you know, nobody
01:05:18
likes Bill Gates or Albert Burla, the more exposure it
01:05:21
gets. I think it's gonna influence the
01:05:23
public opinion influences the court.
01:05:24
And if this case can breakthrough to censorship and
01:05:27
in the Netherlands here and enough people are paying
01:05:29
attention and they're already ruled by the way that they do
01:05:32
have jurisdiction over Bill Gates, like he will have to
01:05:34
appear at some point. I mean, if he brings stuff over
01:05:37
there, of course they should. But so who's going to be there?
01:05:40
Just Berla? Is Gates going to be there in a
01:05:42
hearing? I don't know if they're going to
01:05:43
be at this hearing or their attorneys.
01:05:45
At some point they will have to appear in the trial.
01:05:47
I don't know if they're going to be at this hearing, but the
01:05:49
court has said that they've got jurisdiction over them.
01:05:51
They will have to appear. So I mean, that might be a
01:05:56
positive sign for the trial court that they've done that.
01:06:00
And so it's, you know, it, it's, you know, that's we'll see what
01:06:06
happens. I mean, I can't read the tea
01:06:08
leaves any more than anybody else.
01:06:09
But here's the deal. I don't focus on the outcome.
01:06:12
I here's the deal. They're killing people, you
01:06:14
know, and love the people you know and love.
01:06:16
Most people you know and love are going to have a shortened
01:06:18
lifespan because of these injections.
01:06:20
OK, It's still going on. They're still giving.
01:06:22
And guess what? It, it you get injured from the
01:06:25
shedding, there's a, there's an indirect, you know, effect
01:06:28
because of shedding. There's studies that support
01:06:30
that. And so I mean, it's like, it's
01:06:33
like sitting here and watching your family members being raped
01:06:36
in pillage and you're just going to sit there like a little girl.
01:06:38
I mean, you're going to die. Get over it.
01:06:41
Now the question is, do you grovel on your knees like a
01:06:43
coward or stand up like a man or a woman and fight?
01:06:46
And I'm just not going to look the other way.
01:06:48
I can't. It's not in my DNA.
01:06:52
Yeah. And I think that's the right
01:06:53
attitude. That's exactly what you have to
01:06:55
do. Listen, Joe, I really appreciate
01:06:57
you joining us today. Hopefully, people go out and
01:06:58
follow you. They'll follow what's going on
01:07:00
in the case, in the Gates case. Maybe they'll catch that
01:07:02
hearing. Hopefully, these people will
01:07:04
face accountability eventually. In the meantime, I guess we'll
01:07:08
have to just keep fighting the fight that we're all doing on a
01:07:10
daily basis. We appreciate it.
01:07:12
Absolutely. Can I ask one question before we
01:07:14
go, please? Yeah.
01:07:16
George, is that hair real? It's not that I'm jealous, but
01:07:18
is it real? I'm just my hair.
01:07:19
It's too good. Yeah.
01:07:20
Yeah. His hair is perfect.
01:07:22
He's he's got great. Bastard.
01:07:23
I'm not jealous. Bastard.
01:07:25
Yeah, the Lance. I like you better.
01:07:26
Here for some reason. Lance, I like you better.
01:07:28
For some reason, Yeah, well. You know you got less hair.
01:07:32
The follicularly challenged have to have to stick together docs.
01:07:35
Yeah, that's how. It is.
01:07:36
Your hair is beautiful, George. I'm.
01:07:37
Thank you dude. No, I know I don't blame you.
01:07:39
It takes a lot to offend me. Not too many people can, but.
01:07:43
No big deal. I'm not very offensive, but
01:07:46
yeah, guys, I appreciate. You very much for joining us
01:07:49
today. We really appreciate it, man.
01:07:51
Thank you. Yeah, have a good one.
01:07:52
Listen, if you guys like the show, take the short form, take
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01:08:09
Lance, you didn't say in the beginning I understand because
01:08:12
the tech issues has has us all flustered, but it is Wednesday.
01:08:16
It's hump week in my life because I am single.
01:08:19
Some say it's hump day. Whatever, enjoy your day.
01:08:22
Stay stay safe out there and vigilant.
01:08:25
You don't know what's going on and stay blessed.
01:08:27
I love you guys. We'll catch you tomorrow
01:08:29
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01:08:30
Might have. I might.
01:08:31
I might have. I might have.
01:08:32
I might. I might have.
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