JAMAAL BOWMAN ON THE HOT SEAT W/ SPECIAL GUESTS 2 EX-FBI AGENTS HOSTED BY THE BIG MIG |EP148

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Welcome back to The Big Mig

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I'm your host, Lance Migliaccio

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George Balloutine, back in the saddle.

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After a long weekend

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of slaving away George, what's going on?

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Brother? George is fucking tired.

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That's what is going on. Really tired.

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I'm fighting here, folks. I'm fighting.

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But I got my friends coming on.

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I got to fight for them, too.

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These guys, you better

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bring your A-game for these guys.

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You're going to need it.

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he's got my A-game, bro.

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Well, you know, I know you do,

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but you are a hard working guy.

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You did some investigative stuff

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over the weekend for us, too,

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which is pretty interesting.

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Let's revisit this story.

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So here we are back here,

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tip of the spear.

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If liberty means anything at all,

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it means the right to tell people

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what they do not want to hear.

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And today, we're going

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to do a lot of that.

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There's so much stuff going on in DC.

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We were just having a discussion

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backstage in the green room

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about accountability and how sometimes

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there's so many of us that are fighting

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to get the truth out

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there, that are fighting

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to educate people,

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that are fighting to unify the populace.

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And when we come out

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and we expose the truth.

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Great investigative

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journalists, fighters,

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whistle whistleblowers and everyone else.

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Sometimes it gets to be a little much

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because you're hoping something's

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going to happen.

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You're hoping that

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here comes the cavalry.

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And as we've gone further along

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and we see the corruption in DC,

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we see the corruption of the FBI,

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the DOJ, Border Patrol,

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they ought to be called the welcome wagon

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at this point

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because they sure as hell

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aren't protecting our border.

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And, you know, we know this

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is coming from the top down.

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And I in no way

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am I trying to indicate that this is just

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Joe Biden's administration.

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Yeah, the Democrats shock.

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But I have to be honest with you,

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I think the Republicans

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not nearly as much.

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It's a unit party.

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They don't care about America.

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They don't care about the people.

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And the people means you.

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I, our kids, our grandkids,

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our mothers, fathers, grandparents.

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That's why we have to be the ones

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to make a difference.

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We have to unify the country,

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forget about religion, forget about race,

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forget about politics.

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And we have to work together

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to take the country back

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from these lowlife policies.

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And I got to tell you,

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I want to sit here

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and just use my Bronx

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for letter vocabulary.

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George and I are actually trying

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to do a better job of cursing less,

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although I don't know how

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well it's going.

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Hi, George.

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How do you feel about that?

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It's not going do well, is it?

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Well, I'm tired of, you know,

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I can't account for my actions right now.

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So if something slips out to ever bad.

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Yeah, well, it comes out.

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You know,

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the problem is

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the F-bomb for me

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is an adjective, an adverb, a pronoun.

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Let's put it this way.

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We want to be comfortable.

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We want our word,

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our guests to be comfortable.

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And you're going to find out

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because we have

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one of them is Steve Gray.

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You know,

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he always goes professional suit

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and tie guy on on

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when he's on Fox

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and all the other liberal shows tonight.

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He ain't.

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You know why?

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Because he ain't with the FBI.

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Because they suck. Plain and simple.

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He left, he retired.

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He did the smart thing

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because they don't want to do nothing

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for anybody anyway.

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So he's going to relax

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and have a good time.

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Definitely not in a suit and tie.

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Can't wait.

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Well, here's the thing.

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We've got two

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what I would call

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two experts,

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two patriots,

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two guys that believe in America first.

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They both made life decisions

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because they weren't

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willing to compromise their ethics,

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their morals, their integrity,

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their joining us tonight, it's

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Kyle Serafin and Steve Gray.

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Listen,

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throw up the thumbnail real quick

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just to give him a tone of where

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we're going with this tonight.

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George brought media zero to him

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just like that.

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And Lance, here we go.

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Well, hey,

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you know, you usually Johnny on the spot.

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I got to tell you, you're looking Guys,

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look, look.

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First

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look at the eyes

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as fierce pain in the mud

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as they want to hurt somebody.

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Well, here we are.

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We got to talk about Bowman.

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We're going to talk about the cartels

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and their new their new project of gun

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manufacturing that

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they want to bring here into the U.S..

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Listen, let's talk about Kyle

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Serafin first.

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You know, he's a federal

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whistleblower, former

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FBI special agent, U.S.

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Air Force

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veteran, combat dive and Para Rescue.

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He worked for Mexico, U.S.

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Air with the U.S.

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Air Force Para rescue.

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And paramedics

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went to the FBI Academy at Quantico.

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So I was assigned to Washington

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field office.

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And 16

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he's worked

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counterintelligence investigations.

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And let me say this.

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This guy has attempted

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to expose the underbelly of the FBI over

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and over and over again.

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He's been on

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Fox News, Newsmax

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first Network, Real America's Voice,

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Salem Media.

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He's a regular guest with Dan Bongino.

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I mean, all this just goes on and on

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and on.

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He's been interviewed

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by Tucker Carlson and Sebastian Gorka,

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you know, but he's one to see this.

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If you know Kyle, he's

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a very religious guy.

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He's very family driven, great parent.

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You can tell in

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just the posts that he puts up.

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Got a great sense of humor.

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All I can say

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is that he is a well-known person

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in the community and very trusted.

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And I trust him and I call him a friend.

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So he's going to be joining us.

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And then we've got Steve Gray.

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And here's a guy

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who's really highly accomplished.

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He was New York City FBI

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agent and supervisor,

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had 32 years

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of law enforcement experience,

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knowledgeable,

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you know,

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travel team security professional.

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You know,

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he's a he's

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got a love and passion for sports.

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He's a team player.

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You know,

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he's been an established manager

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in risk management.

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He's refined his skills

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working as an FBI agent.

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You know, at Newark, New Jersey.

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He's worked the Super Bowl, World

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Series, PGA, U.S. Open.

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I mean, this guy is in high demand.

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He's very knowledgeable.

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Again, another

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whistleblower that has tried

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to bring the truth

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out over and over again,

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hoping that somebody

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would bring the accountability

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that's necessary in D.C..

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And tonight, we're putting Representative

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Democrat Jamaal Bowman on the hot seat.

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And everybody that doesn't know

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this story,

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we're going to give you

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a little background,

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but I'm sure most

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everybody has heard the story

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so far, George.

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I mean.

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Bowman

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Throw out media one

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so we can take a look at him, would you?

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I'm surprised he's not in jail.

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Well, we would be

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like I would be in jail.

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George would be in jail?

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Yeah.

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Unfortunately, you know,

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that's what they would do.

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There's no hesitation.

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Probably call the corrupt FBI agents.

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Come lock us up.

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Yeah,

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well, actually,

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they start with the Capitol Police.

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Then they'd probably get us

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for being domestic terrorists.

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Yeah, Kind of

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like what they did with the J

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six defendants.

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No, no. White domestic terrorists.

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You got that right? Yeah.

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Media one, I think.

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I mean, you want to.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry I didn't catch. Okay.

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All right, so that's Bowman.

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So the whole story goes.

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Let's bring on Steve

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Gray and Kyle Serafin.

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What we're going to these are experts

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that's what we do here at the big mag.

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We know we are not the experts. Kyle,

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thank you so much for joining us.

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How are you, man? I'm great.

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You want to hear a little funny story

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about when I first saw Steve Gray

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because we didn't work

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together, obviously, right?

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I saw him on our mutual friend

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Sebastian Gorka show.

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He was doing interviews

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running for governor

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or running for Congress, rather.

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And I'm seeing him out there

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talking about some of the issues

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going on in the bureau.

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And I was already on unpaid suspension

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in my house in New Mexico,

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which I had to sell.

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And so I'm watching him on the screen.

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It was the only time I've ever had

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a TV screen in my bedroom.

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So my wife and I were sitting in bed

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looking out there like,

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get ready to shut down the night.

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And I'm watching this guy.

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Come on. I go, this FBI agent coming on.

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I better watch this thing up.

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And Steve is every bit

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he's every bit the patriot you described.

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But even more, he's.

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He's more chill

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when he doesn't have a suit on.

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I like catching him on cuff me.

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Do you dress him down a little bit?

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He takes a little bit that edge off

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and you get a little bit of that

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real like New York agent flavor,

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which is what I like to see, too.

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So I can

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I can attest to that

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because I've definitely

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met him in person.

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He was just wearing jeans, t shirt.

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I got the pictures to prove it.

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Steve He's got the biceps to prove it.

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You, when he's outside the suit,

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you could see the the gun show

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that just tells you about this guy,

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that just shows you about his character

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because you like

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he was when he was an FBI agent.

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He was trying to represent himself

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and the agency as best as he could.

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You know.

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So props to Steve on a percent.

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Stevie Gray,

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you know,

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I know you haven't been doing

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a lot of interviews lately,

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and I just want to thank you

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for coming on the show.

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We wanted Jon for a long time.

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We supported you

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when you were making your run, run

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for your congressional run,

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and we'd support you again.

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We'd love to see you do it.

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We love to see in there.

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We'd love to have somebody on the ground

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that we knew

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was trustworthy

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and honest and had integrity.

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So what's been going on?

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How you been doing?

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I'm doing great.

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I want to thank you and George

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for having me on.

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Kyle, for coming all with me.

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I appreciate it.

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Thanks for the kind words.

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No, I have not done interviews.

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My last interview was April.

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And the reason is, is

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because I'm going on

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these major news networks

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and I'm talking about problems

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within the FBI, what needs to be done.

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And nobody was listening.

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I never got a call from a congressman.

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I never got a call from

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a state representative,

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a senator, anybody in the business?

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Nobody.

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Nobody wanted to

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find out

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exactly how we were going

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to clean up the FBI.

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We had a lot of good people out there

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that want to do this,

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but there's nobody coming forward

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with the power

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to make the changes happen.

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And if nobody's going to, nobody's

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reaching out to me,

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then I felt like I wasn't as effective

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as I could be.

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So I stepped away and I took a job

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and went back to work

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and tried to make some money.

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Yeah, well,

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we all have to do that, that's for sure.

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And absolutely for our listeners,

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the big, big mafia

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they like to call themselves

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and our subscribers.

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We we all have to make money.

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And the truth is, a lot of times

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this is a thankless position

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that we're in fighting for the country

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because there are so many people

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that are still brainwashed.

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We see it on social media.

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I saw a bunch of it on EX today,

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as I'm sure Kyle did,

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because I saw him in

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and out of there today.

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George On all the platforms.

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Yeah, it's the worse.

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We're looking for stories,

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we're doing investigations

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and we're interacting

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so everybody knows that

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this is not always the easiest thing

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to come here every day

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and put a game face on.

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Because we all love the country.

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We all, regardless of whatever

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our backgrounds are In the past,

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we all came to this epiphany moment

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when we decided

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that we couldn't continue

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to go along with it

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and we couldn't continue

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to sit on the sidelines.

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You know,

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I was never a politically driven guy.

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In my early years,

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I had a completely different

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perspective on the world

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and a lot of things changed.

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My daughter, God,

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lots of things came into my life

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that made a difference.

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Here I am

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now trying to make a difference,

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and it is frustrating at times

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because we're all fighting for it.

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We see somebody like Bowman

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who clearly broke the law.

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Clearly they use

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the same criminal charges.

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And we're going to get into this

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right now

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that the same crime that he committed

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is what people in the J six,

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you know, of said correction

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are in jail for right at this moment.

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You know,

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he said he mistakenly

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triggered a fire alarm

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in this congressional office

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building Saturday

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as they were preparing to vote.

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Now

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his big play is that

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he did it mistakenly.

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Now

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a lot of people said, did he do it?

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Is he guilty?

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I heard that going on.

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And meanwhile,

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as you guys have seen,

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there were pictures everywhere

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showing that he did it clearly.

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It's clearly accidental, obviously.

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Well, clearly accidental,

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although we've seen some evidence

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come out now

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that looks like he was quite agitated.

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So you guys today

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on purpose is what I got it.

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I just got

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I mean, Kyle, tell me your thoughts.

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How do you feel about him so far

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and how he's handling the situation?

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I think that there's

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this kind of fun little breakdown.

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My buddy Dan Bongino

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talks about the danger in this country

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are what he calls

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the stupid smart people.

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And and it's possible

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your audience are familiar

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with this idea.

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The stupid smart people

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are the educated people

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that have no common sense.

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Right.

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And a lot of them

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make up the Democrat Party.

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And I've kind of come up with a corollary

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to the stupid smart people.

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And that's the smart, stupid people.

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The smart, stupid people seem to be

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the entirety of the squad

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and anybody that's

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operating on that level.

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So these are the people that have decided

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that even though they are complete

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morons in real life

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and the things they say are absurd

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and stupid,

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they have the ability

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to turn public opinion

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and manipulate

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people's senses

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and they have learned

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how to play on this.

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The stupid smart people.

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And so

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the smart, stupid people

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are really dangerous

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because they're the ones out there

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running the show.

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They have lower intellectual capacity,

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they have a lower horsepower,

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but they got better transmission.

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They're getting action on the ground.

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They're actually

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getting things moving forward

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and they're getting people

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that should know better

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to do things and agree with them.

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And to that point.

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BOWMAN actually put

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out talking points

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for his Democratic colleagues

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and said, you need to come to my defense.

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And if there's one thing

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that we can probably agree on

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and there is definitely a swampy

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sort of unit party experience

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that we've all kind of seen,

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there's something very interesting

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about the way you can look

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at the difference

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between the Republicans.

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The Democrats are me, and I'm

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neither I'm a I'm an independent

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that's very conservative.

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That's kind of my world, right?

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I cannot get excited

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about a political party.

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It grosses me out.

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But what I do

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see is

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this The Republicans are the party

00:14:02

that wants to lose more slowly,

00:14:04

and that is the nature

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maybe of being a conservative,

00:14:06

that you are conserving,

00:14:07

you are defending at all times.

00:14:08

You're always on defense

00:14:09

and you're always losing

00:14:09

a little bit of ground.

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But man,

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you got to give

00:14:12

at least the respect

00:14:13

to the smart, stupid people,

00:14:15

the ones running the Democrat Party,

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because what they do is they win.

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They are progressive on all fronts.

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Whether it makes sense or not.

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We need to protect all black lives.

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But we're also really

00:14:24

into killing black babies

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because we're pro-abortion.

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Like, that sort of statement

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is completely illogical.

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I would I would wake up with a migraine.

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I can't do that, that

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you have to be kind

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of little bit stupid

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to be able to handle that.

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But they are always

00:14:34

attacking on all fronts.

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It doesn't matter whether it's guns,

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whether it's a messaging campaign,

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whether it's all the other

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kind of progressive agenda they have.

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And they don't have to be aligned.

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They're just

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they're closing in on territory

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from all sides.

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And if they get a little bit

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of circular firing squad,

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they don't care.

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And so they're going to defend

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this guy 100%.

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That's what it looks like.

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And now

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I'm going to go to Steve

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next here in a minute.

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But I agree with you.

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I think

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I think that they are

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much more organized.

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The narratives

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and these fomented plots

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that they've created

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come with instruction manuals

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where the Republicans

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I feel like so often

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I feel like they're late to the game

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and they're winging it.

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Let's face it, if you take the organized

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the organized social media influencers,

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the groups they're paying,

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they actually have a war room

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at the White House

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where they're provided

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instruction manuals

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for the upcoming narratives.

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Those are also disseminated

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through email and text message

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as something comes up.

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So if you're dealing with a Brooklyn

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dad or a Jojo from Jersey

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or the Crabs

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Weinstein Brothers

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or Harry Sison,

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and you're dealing with those groups,

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they're organized

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because they've got a funnel

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narrative already created.

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It's provided by the government.

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Steve, give me your thoughts on that.

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No, I agree on a percent.

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And to Kyle's point,

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listen, I worked bang

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for five years

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and I specialize in conflict scams.

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These are the individuals

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that were stealing the life

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savings of elderly people

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across the United States.

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And I can't distinguish

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between those individuals

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that I was chasing down for the scams

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and those individuals

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that are running the squad

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at this point right now.

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That's exactly where we're at.

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And I feel that, you know,

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I think that I really believe

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that he should be charged under

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I think it's five 1505,

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which is basically

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obstructing Congress

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because, look,

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they did it to our January six protest.

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What a lot of your readers

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don't understand

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or may not know about me

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is that I had a very

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I had an awesome FBI career.

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I could have worked another seven

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or eight years and continued on.

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But the way that they were treating

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the January six protesters

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and the way the FBI was running out

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arresting them,

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they understand

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I was the coordinator,

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the arrest coordinator.

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So these arrests

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would come across my desk.

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We were sending out

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ten man FBI teams armed to the teeth

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to basically break

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in the door of elderly individuals

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60, 70, 75, 80 years old.

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That just happened to be standing

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on the steps of the Capitol.

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And they were arresting

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these individuals,

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then bringing them back to my office

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where they were processing them.

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These poor individuals had a clue

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what was going on.

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And basically what we have

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here is the Justice Department

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and the FBI and the Biden administration

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was trying

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to make an example out of them.

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Well, now now it's our turn.

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And Boeing needs to be made

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an example of what he did was wrong.

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He interrupted

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the congressional proceedings

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and there's just no way.

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And I set it out on Twitter.

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Let's take the polygraph

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and see what he has to say about it.

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I saw that, but I saw that fire alarm.

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It clearly marked fire frost.

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It says alarm.

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And it's his brother says, ready yet?

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You mean it didn't

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it didn't say door switch.

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Yeah, exactly.

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That's exactly right.

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Well,

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you got to believe the guy

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you need to man up

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and he needs to come forward

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and say, Yeah, I did this,

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I'll take the consequences.

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What is going on, how they operate,

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what are the consequences?

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In Washington, DC,

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he goes to trial

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in front of a Democratic jury

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and they let him off the hook

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because that's the way it goes

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these days.

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You know,

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if you have these cities New York,

00:18:08

Chicago, Washington, D.C.,

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and you have a Democrat,

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especially a politician

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who is on the hot seat or on trial

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and you get the jury seated nine times

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out of ten,

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they're going to let

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this guy off the hook

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just because he's a Democrat.

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Well, you know,

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there is a criminal statute

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for pulling a fire alarm, number one.

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And if somebody's going to be a criminal,

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even at 1505,

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there's actual federal statute.

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And let's let me say this.

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Everything in DC is a federal zone,

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so everything is a federal crime.

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This isn't a state level crime.

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Even on the fire alarm,

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when you go into a federal zone

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like the Capitol building

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where they own the property,

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it's 100% everything in there's federal.

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So at this point,

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even pulling the fire alarm

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that stands outside of 1505

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1505 is the

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is kind of an extension of that.

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But I believe there's multiple crimes

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because I start to look at

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what he violated as far as the guidelines

00:19:02

are for senators and congressmen

00:19:04

and his behavior.

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There's a whole set of laws behind that.

00:19:07

Additionally, you know in a statement,

00:19:08

let me read this, George,

00:19:09

and then you can throw at me, too,

00:19:10

and then I'm going to let you comment

00:19:11

because I want to hear

00:19:12

what you have to say

00:19:12

because I know you're

00:19:13

chomping at the bit.

00:19:15

He admitted to pulling the fire alarm,

00:19:16

which he said he regretted,

00:19:18

but he disputed that he did.

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So to delay the vote,

00:19:21

as many Republicans inserted,

00:19:22

he was about

00:19:23

they were about to vote

00:19:23

on this bipartisan bill

00:19:25

to keep the government open

00:19:26

for another 45 days and avoid a shutdown.

00:19:28

It sounds like it wasn't going

00:19:29

the way he wanted it to go.

00:19:31

And we're going to see some behavior

00:19:33

put out media to George

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because this is his actual

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official statement.

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They came off his website

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and he goes on here.

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I want

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to personally clear up confusion

00:19:43

surrounding today's events today.

00:19:45

As I was running rushing to make a vote,

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I came to a door

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that is usually open for votes,

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but today would not open.

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I am embarrassed

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to admit

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that I activated the alarm

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mistakenly thinking

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it would open the door.

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I regret this

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and sincerely apologize for any confusion

00:20:00

it caused.

00:20:01

It goes blah blah blah.

00:20:02

But I want to be very clear

00:20:03

that I wasn't trying

00:20:04

to interrupt the vote.

00:20:06

You know, George, your thoughts on this.

00:20:08

To me, it's just

00:20:09

I don't see what she did.

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TIME When you're asked

00:20:12

what you made a mistake,

00:20:13

whether he was trying to interrupt

00:20:15

a vote or not is is regardless

00:20:18

because you pulled the damn alarm.

00:20:19

So. Right.

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There's a

00:20:20

that's a criminal colonel activity

00:20:22

right there. So he should be charged.

00:20:24

I think you were telling me

00:20:25

earlier, Lance,

00:20:25

he was a teacher at a school for so long.

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Yeah, I think that's the smoking

00:20:29

gun information here.

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Clearly, he

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he was only isn't sure

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he was a principal.

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So clearly he understood the school.

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Yeah, he understands

00:20:38

emergency services like fire alarms.

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And one of those kids were fucked up

00:20:43

during that time when he was principal.

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It was always going to come out that way.

00:20:47

Look, the guy

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you know, he has

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he has a

00:20:50

he's got a bachelor's

00:20:50

degree, he's got a master's degree,

00:20:52

and he's got a doctorate of education.

00:20:53

He's the doctorate.

00:20:54

That's where the Joe Biden is.

00:20:56

And then he spent nine years

00:20:57

running a school in the Bronx.

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So you're telling me

00:21:00

this guy has never conducted

00:21:01

a fire drill?

00:21:01

Look at my tweet from this

00:21:04

from this Sunday as we left church,

00:21:05

my six year old had a choice

00:21:07

because I'm hearing the baby thing.

00:21:09

We've got a five week old right now.

00:21:10

So I'm carrying one of those

00:21:11

enormous car seats that you unstrap

00:21:13

and it's got like a bassinet thing.

00:21:15

So I'm carrying that.

00:21:16

So I got, you know, less free hands.

00:21:17

I can open the door.

00:21:18

But you

00:21:18

my kid is really excited about it

00:21:19

because she's six

00:21:20

and she wants to be a big helper.

00:21:21

And she walked up

00:21:22

and on the left hand side is a red box

00:21:24

that has a piece of glass on it.

00:21:25

There's a fire extinguisher

00:21:26

right next to it,

00:21:27

and that is one option to open the door.

00:21:29

Or she could push the button

00:21:30

that everyone pushes right

00:21:31

next to the door.

00:21:31

That's got a handicapped symbol on it.

00:21:33

It says open door on it.

00:21:34

It's all in blue and silver.

00:21:35

And it's a square that everyone's

00:21:37

seen at every mall, everywhere.

00:21:38

It's got the universal access thing.

00:21:39

And guess what?

00:21:40

She knows what to push,

00:21:41

and so does my four year old.

00:21:42

So you're telling me

00:21:43

that a grown man who's 47 years old

00:21:44

with advanced degrees

00:21:46

doesn't know how to handle that?

00:21:47

It's absurd.

00:21:48

I actually sent you guys over the

00:21:50

his talking points that just leaked.

00:21:51

Politico just took us out

00:21:53

a couple of minutes ago.

00:21:53

I saw it just before we went on air

00:21:55

and they leaked the talking points

00:21:56

that he sent around

00:21:57

to his Democrat colleagues.

00:21:58

And they're pretty telling.

00:22:00

It says that you send that to my email.

00:22:03

I sent it over to your signal.

00:22:04

So it just says messaging guidance.

00:22:06

It says how you can support Jamaal Bowman

00:22:08

after the accidental fire alarm.

00:22:10

And if you got any problems,

00:22:11

reach out to him on his staff

00:22:12

and she'll help you out.

00:22:13

And what you can do is

00:22:14

you can point out

00:22:14

the extreme MAGA Republicans

00:22:16

and you can make sure

00:22:17

that you make reference to the nasty side

00:22:19

of the Republican Party.

00:22:20

He's since had to walk these back

00:22:21

even in the last couple of hours

00:22:23

because he looks like a fool

00:22:24

using the word Nazi

00:22:25

on this kind of stuff.

00:22:26

So it's just

00:22:27

it's telling when you got to go out there

00:22:29

and do a messaging campaign

00:22:30

because you're a moron

00:22:31

and you pushed the button,

00:22:32

you thought you were going

00:22:33

to get some reaction,

00:22:34

you obviously didn't.

00:22:34

And you could charge

00:22:35

one of the same statutes

00:22:36

that you've seen.

00:22:37

These Gen-Xers,

00:22:37

a lot of these guys on gay

00:22:38

sex are getting the same

00:22:39

criminal complaint as under 18, USC 1512.

00:22:42

It's not the 55 they're getting the 1512,

00:22:45

and it's subsection C two,

00:22:46

which just as corruptly obstructs

00:22:48

that proceeding

00:22:48

and it's punishable by 20 years.

00:22:50

This is the stuff that guys from

00:22:51

the Proud Boys are sitting in jail for.

00:22:52

So no violence required, no intent

00:22:54

required on that statute.

00:22:56

It just means that you did this thing

00:22:58

and, you know,

00:22:58

you went out there and you obstructed or,

00:23:01

you know,

00:23:01

there's even a little bit more language.

00:23:02

Do it

00:23:03

obstructs influence

00:23:04

or impedes an official proceeding,

00:23:05

impedes doesn't mean

00:23:06

that you intend to do.

00:23:07

It just means that you did a thing,

00:23:09

you impeded the proceeding

00:23:10

and pulling a fire alarm

00:23:11

and getting people to evacuate

00:23:12

certainly isn't impeachment.

00:23:13

Now, should we be in a world where

00:23:15

either one of those things

00:23:16

are being pushed on proud boys

00:23:18

who are walking around

00:23:19

or parading the Capitol or this guy?

00:23:20

No, but if it's good for the goose,

00:23:22

might as well be good for the gander.

00:23:23

Let's go.

00:23:23

Let's push it down the line.

00:23:25

So, yeah, I agree.

00:23:26

You're the link for that.

00:23:27

If we can get that on

00:23:28

and a

00:23:28

legitimate issue with it, are we,

00:23:30

are we to believe that

00:23:31

this dude didn't know to pull

00:23:33

that if you pull

00:23:34

that what's going to happen

00:23:34

Look at that big oval door.

00:23:36

I mean it could.

00:23:38

Yeah Well, George,

00:23:40

do you have media to air that video?

00:23:42

I think that's pretty, pretty telling.

00:23:44

Also.

00:23:45

And then MTG did a good job

00:23:47

and she actually show ready.

00:23:49

Yeah, go ahead, do something.

00:23:51

I would say that

00:23:51

that would require

00:23:52

a lot of those announcements.

00:23:55

You know,

00:23:55

I don't know why

00:23:55

this has gotten so much attention.

00:23:57

I was literally just in a rush

00:23:58

to go vote, man. That's all it was.

00:24:01

Are you afraid of any repercussions

00:24:02

either from leadership

00:24:03

or from legal, even conflict?

00:24:04

I mean, listen,

00:24:05

I take responsibility

00:24:06

for what I did, you know,

00:24:07

But like I said,

00:24:08

I was in a rush to go vote.

00:24:09

And, you know, investigation

00:24:11

will sort everything out.

00:24:13

So have you talked to Jeffries about it?

00:24:15

yeah, of course. That stayed on the map.

00:24:17

How was that conversation?

00:24:18

I got to keep that between me

00:24:19

and the leaders.

00:24:20

I'm not going to say that publicly.

00:24:21

Yeah, we've been in

00:24:22

touch with each other.

00:24:27

Well, that's.

00:24:27

That's his position.

00:24:29

George is going

00:24:29

to bring his camera back up.

00:24:31

He's doing a reset.

00:24:32

That's his position on it.

00:24:34

And we're going to do the follow up

00:24:35

for this.

00:24:35

And then, Steve, I'm

00:24:36

going to have you comment.

00:24:38

MTG actually went to the exact door

00:24:41

that Jamal had

00:24:43

decided that the fire alarm was

00:24:45

was the right choice

00:24:47

versus the silver handicap.

00:24:49

And I don't know

00:24:50

if it had a silver handicap,

00:24:51

but I'm thinking of Kyle's daughter.

00:24:53

We were laughing about it online.

00:24:54

I teased him

00:24:55

that she was ready to get into Mensa.

00:24:57

He said, No, we only go with

00:25:00

people. 93.

00:25:01

Yeah, that's it.

00:25:04

So.

00:25:04

Well, George,

00:25:05

if you get a chance media

00:25:07

to be when you get a chance.

00:25:08

I got that up right now.

00:25:10

So here's the thing.

00:25:12

Here's Reggie walking you through

00:25:13

how everybody goes to vote.

00:25:15

There we go.

00:25:16

She said, Everybody knows about it.

00:25:17

So here we go.

00:25:18

This is pretty interesting, everyone.

00:25:19

We were at the infamous door

00:25:21

where Jamal Bowman claims

00:25:23

he had to pull fire alarm to get out.

00:25:25

Now these doors are open on weekdays.

00:25:28

Every member of Congress knows that.

00:25:30

Everybody that works here knows that.

00:25:31

But on Saturdays and Sundays,

00:25:34

they are locked

00:25:34

and only certain doors

00:25:36

are open on Saturdays and Sundays.

00:25:38

Now, come on over here.

00:25:40

This right here is a fire alarm.

00:25:42

No. Where does it say?

00:25:45

Pull the fire alarm

00:25:46

to open the exit door?

00:25:49

It doesn't say that.

00:25:50

And I think it's middle

00:25:51

school principals know better.

00:25:53

Let me show you how we go

00:25:54

when we need to go vote.

00:25:56

I know this because my office is in here

00:25:59

and Keenan building the other side.

00:26:17

look, there's stairs,

00:26:32

by the way.

00:26:33

We had to use the stairs

00:26:34

to evacuate the Cannon Building

00:26:37

after Jamaal Bowman

00:26:38

pulled the fire alarm.

00:26:47

Yeah.

00:26:48

Here's where you have an option.

00:26:50

As members of Congress

00:26:52

continue to go down the stairs.

00:26:53

This way

00:26:57

and you can go in the basement

00:26:59

and we can walk in the tunnel

00:27:01

that goes under the road to the Capitol.

00:27:03

We do that all the time,

00:27:04

especially if the weather's bad

00:27:06

or you can come around this way,

00:27:14

See where that says Action

00:27:16

in action is out on the New Jersey.

00:27:20

This one is open

00:27:22

all the time, not just some of the time.

00:27:25

All the time.

00:27:26

So let's explain very clearly again,

00:27:28

Jamaal Bowman didn't pull the fire alarm

00:27:31

to try to get out of the building

00:27:33

because he had to rush to go vote.

00:27:35

I know that for a fact

00:27:36

because I also work

00:27:37

in the Cannon Office Building

00:27:39

and I watched Katherine Clarke,

00:27:41

the Democrat whip,

00:27:43

make a motion to adjourn.

00:27:45

And then within minutes, Jamaal Bowman

00:27:48

pulled the fire alarm

00:27:49

and he knew

00:27:49

he was pulling a fire alarm

00:27:51

because he's a former

00:27:52

middle school principal.

00:27:53

And then he ran out of the building

00:27:55

and didn't tell anybody he did that.

00:27:58

And this building was evacuated

00:28:00

for over an hour

00:28:02

and Congress had to hold the vote open.

00:28:04

That's usually only 15 minutes

00:28:05

on the first night.

00:28:07

They held it open

00:28:07

for over an hour as well.

00:28:10

There's some serious problems

00:28:11

for Jamaal Bowman

00:28:12

and he needs to be prosecuted

00:28:14

for violating the same federal law

00:28:17

that they are prosecuting.

00:28:18

January six defendants

00:28:20

and President Trump.

00:28:23

So

00:28:24

what? George is resetting his camera.

00:28:26

Steve Okay,

00:28:27

so you guys have both investigated

00:28:30

many criminals, many crimes so far.

00:28:33

How's the evidence

00:28:34

looking on the case against Bowman

00:28:36

being innocent?

00:28:38

It's look, he's guilty isn't a felony.

00:28:41

You can't this

00:28:42

you can there's no way

00:28:44

any reasonable person

00:28:46

can look at that fire alarm

00:28:48

and think that it was there

00:28:50

to open up the door.

00:28:51

It's just not. It's not.

00:28:53

It's not.

00:28:54

It's.

00:28:54

It's lying through.

00:28:55

Steve,

00:28:56

Here's the what's worse, though, Lance,

00:28:57

but a lot of people are looking at is,

00:28:59

is that, you know,

00:29:01

people could have died for this of that.

00:29:03

Right.

00:29:04

People could have heard that a fire

00:29:05

alarm not knowing what was going on.

00:29:07

They could have had a heart attack.

00:29:08

Right.

00:29:09

They could have tripped and

00:29:10

fell and broke bones

00:29:13

trying

00:29:13

to get out of the Capitol,

00:29:14

not knowing what's going on.

00:29:16

There's a lot of things

00:29:17

that could transpire

00:29:18

with him pulling that alarm.

00:29:20

And when you look at that alarm

00:29:23

and you see it

00:29:24

and you see it clear as day, it says fire

00:29:27

was there, there's

00:29:28

no way in the world

00:29:30

that you can distinguish

00:29:31

that that was not a fire.

00:29:33

He's lying through his teeth.

00:29:35

Yeah, I think that thumbs down

00:29:36

was not for you, Steve.

00:29:37

Before I did George's camera

00:29:39

that he's having an issue with.

00:29:40

But yeah, I agree with you.

00:29:42

I think it's so obvious sometimes.

00:29:45

And when I think a DC anymore,

00:29:47

I that no one tells the truth.

00:29:50

None of them tell the truth anymore.

00:29:52

And the bickering and foot

00:29:54

stomping that doesn't lead

00:29:56

to any effective results.

00:29:58

I'm tired of it, Kyle.

00:29:59

You know, so far

00:30:00

you've seen the evidence to this point.

00:30:02

We're going to try to get those notes up

00:30:03

that you sent.

00:30:04

I sent George the link over there.

00:30:05

It's Jake Nobles.

00:30:06

You can get those on

00:30:06

because that sounds like a huge

00:30:08

piece of information you provided us.

00:30:11

BOWMAN So far as you look in Guilty,

00:30:14

he looks ridiculous.

00:30:15

And moreover,

00:30:16

the the lead of his party,

00:30:18

Joe Biden, is really, really keen.

00:30:20

And this kind of segway

00:30:21

to what

00:30:21

we'll be talking about

00:30:22

a little bit later, I think.

00:30:22

But he's really keen to tell us

00:30:25

that, you know, all of our amendments,

00:30:27

all of our

00:30:27

our constitutionally protected liberties

00:30:28

have significant limits on them.

00:30:31

And the big one they love to talk about

00:30:33

is there's limits on the Second Amendment

00:30:34

because you can't yell fire

00:30:36

in a crowded theater

00:30:37

that could be dangerous.

00:30:38

Which goes directly

00:30:39

to what Steve just said.

00:30:40

You're creating

00:30:40

an unnecessary emergency now.

00:30:43

I was a paramedic for a decade.

00:30:44

I've been on ambulances.

00:30:45

I've run to fire calls.

00:30:46

I've done medical calls.

00:30:47

When people pull emergency alarms,

00:30:50

first of all,

00:30:50

every emergency results in people

00:30:52

doing things

00:30:53

that are completely illogical.

00:30:54

If you ever want to see

00:30:55

the dumbest human behavior,

00:30:57

turn on lights and sirens.

00:30:58

And Steve can probably attest

00:30:59

to this, too,

00:31:00

turn on lights and sirens

00:31:01

and try to drive

00:31:01

anywhere around normal people.

00:31:03

Apparently, they're not teaching

00:31:04

that driver's ed anymore.

00:31:05

People don't pull off to the right

00:31:06

and stop.

00:31:07

They stop where they are.

00:31:08

They speed, they cut you off, they go in,

00:31:10

they patrol on the left.

00:31:11

They'll stop in the middle

00:31:12

of an edge of lane.

00:31:13

I mean, I've done that outside of DC.

00:31:14

I've done it in other cities as well.

00:31:16

I've probably done in 20

00:31:17

or 30 different cities

00:31:18

in the United States.

00:31:18

It gets really weird really fast.

00:31:20

So you pull a fire alarm,

00:31:22

you can have a bunch of ladies

00:31:23

wearing really high heels

00:31:24

that are illogical to me,

00:31:25

but that's what they do.

00:31:26

And they work in Congress

00:31:27

and they're trying to keep you know,

00:31:28

they're trying to be professional

00:31:29

and they're trying to look nice

00:31:30

and they're going to be running across

00:31:31

those marble floors that we just saw.

00:31:33

A.G. running or not running.

00:31:34

She was walking.

00:31:35

Imagine people in a panic

00:31:36

trying to get out of a building

00:31:37

like that. That's dangerous.

00:31:38

So the whole idea of the fire

00:31:40

in a crowded theater

00:31:41

is that it

00:31:41

creates an unnecessary risk to people

00:31:43

because it is a not real emergency.

00:31:45

And he just created

00:31:46

introduced a false emergency

00:31:48

for political expediency

00:31:49

and is talking points of this.

00:31:50

This is a bullet point.

00:31:51

Point number two

00:31:52

that Jamal Bowman's office looked at.

00:31:54

And I'm going to direct quote it.

00:31:56

The direct quote starts

00:31:57

with this quote, Look,

00:31:58

if you've been in the Capitol complex

00:32:00

on the weekend,

00:32:01

you know there's only one or two ways

00:32:02

to get in or out,

00:32:03

and it causes confusion

00:32:04

for staffers and members alike.

00:32:06

It goes on.

00:32:07

It's a whole paragraph of, look,

00:32:08

I'm just trying to be

00:32:09

a reasonable guy here.

00:32:10

That's not reasonable.

00:32:11

And the first thing to do

00:32:12

is, what about ism?

00:32:13

They say you got to really worry

00:32:14

about the extreme reach

00:32:15

on the part of the MAGA Republicans.

00:32:17

They always want to

00:32:17

turn it back on Trump.

00:32:18

They always want to turn it back

00:32:19

on Republicans. It's always What?

00:32:21

What about this? What about that?

00:32:22

None of it is like, look, I'm a bonehead.

00:32:24

I made a mistake.

00:32:25

Anybody could have done it.

00:32:26

And I'm at the mercy of the court system.

00:32:28

I'm mercy of the of the Capitol Police.

00:32:30

I'm going to cooperate

00:32:31

with their investigation

00:32:31

because I blew it,

00:32:32

made a bad decision in the moment.

00:32:34

And, you know, me

00:32:34

being rushed is not a good experience

00:32:36

because there's an awful lot of people

00:32:37

that walked into some open doors

00:32:38

on January six, 20, 21,

00:32:40

and they may have made a quote unquote,

00:32:41

bad decision in the moment. Right.

00:32:43

They followed in open doors.

00:32:44

Were Capitol

00:32:45

Police officers allowed them in?

00:32:46

Had I had a walking

00:32:47

tour of the Capitol locked back out,

00:32:49

the people that punch cops go to jail.

00:32:51

Nobody's got a problem with that.

00:32:52

I don't think anybody would object.

00:32:53

You walked around

00:32:54

and you walked out with some brochures

00:32:56

like my buddy Steve Friend interviewed.

00:32:57

Like, are we serious here?

00:32:58

What kind of nation I'm going to burn?

00:33:00

Lance, I'm going to agree with you.

00:33:01

I'm going to put a link up for Kyle

00:33:03

and he can for us. Ready, you guys?

00:33:05

Yeah. Rod could not walk us through here.

00:33:07

What you've got here.

00:33:09

This is.

00:33:10

This is a messaging campaign.

00:33:11

This is on as stationary as you can see.

00:33:13

This is Jamal Bowman's,

00:33:14

and we archived it

00:33:15

because they had a hidden

00:33:16

behind a paywall.

00:33:17

I didn't want to deal with that.

00:33:18

This is over at WaPo

00:33:19

and I don't give them any money

00:33:20

if I don't have to.

00:33:21

They literally have this.

00:33:22

What happened? Here's his explanation.

00:33:24

On his way to vote today,

00:33:25

Congressman Jamaal Bowman

00:33:26

was trying to leave

00:33:27

the can an office building

00:33:28

through the exit

00:33:29

he regularly uses for votes.

00:33:30

But he was thwarted.

00:33:32

Right Like this is just

00:33:32

like breathless silliness.

00:33:34

So there he is.

00:33:35

He's being obstructed by this door.

00:33:36

And what can he do?

00:33:37

He pulled the alarm,

00:33:38

an attempt to open the door,

00:33:39

which is an honest mistake.

00:33:40

According to head,

00:33:41

this is a direct quote,

00:33:41

an honest mistake.

00:33:43

He was not attempting to delay the vote

00:33:44

that he intended to vote yes on.

00:33:46

He was simply trying

00:33:47

to rush to the Capitol.

00:33:48

And it just goes down further.

00:33:49

And then it says what he said about it.

00:33:50

I was trying to get to my vote.

00:33:52

So he goes on that

00:33:52

you can find his full statement here,

00:33:54

which he tweeted out.

00:33:54

And that was that was absurd.

00:33:56

And then the second page,

00:33:57

then the second page, it's just

00:33:58

it just ends with the talking points.

00:34:00

There are three talking points.

00:34:01

One is, what about ISM?

00:34:02

One is, look,

00:34:04

let's be reasonable here

00:34:05

about the Capitol.

00:34:06

It's complicated on the weekends

00:34:07

because not all the,

00:34:08

you know,

00:34:09

ingress and egress

00:34:10

routes are available to all the people.

00:34:12

I imagine he's been there since 2021.

00:34:13

He's probably figured out

00:34:14

how to get to work on the weekends,

00:34:16

you know,

00:34:16

or maybe he doesn't work weekends.

00:34:17

Maybe he's got that.

00:34:19

Maybe he's got that Fed attitude

00:34:20

where he shuts down Fridays at 3 p.m.

00:34:22

So maybe he's

00:34:22

I mean, let's be reasonable.

00:34:24

They've never been reasonable

00:34:25

with the Jay Sixers

00:34:26

when they charged him

00:34:27

for walking into the Capitol.

00:34:29

How about the people that get charged?

00:34:30

It never even went to the Capitol.

00:34:32

How about the people that got to

00:34:34

pay for it?

00:34:34

So here's the standard

00:34:35

that we're at right now.

00:34:36

If he had a conversation

00:34:38

with anybody in the hallway,

00:34:39

which I'm

00:34:39

sure the FBI's investigating

00:34:41

very heavily,

00:34:41

imagine are they having that

00:34:43

conversation, Steve,

00:34:44

where they went out there and interviewed

00:34:45

all of his aides

00:34:46

to see if they thought it was a good idea

00:34:48

because those people are all

00:34:49

as far as I can tell,

00:34:50

seditious conspiracy.

00:34:52

absolutely. I agree with you.

00:34:54

There's

00:34:54

no investigation at all

00:34:55

going on with this period.

00:34:57

Nobody's doing anything.

00:34:59

I would like to just get him in a room

00:35:01

and be myself by myself, him and me.

00:35:04

And I'd like to interview him

00:35:05

for about 30 minutes.

00:35:07

I really believe they're fine.

00:35:10

I would be willing to

00:35:11

pay for that polygraph. Maybe.

00:35:13

Kyle, you and I should post

00:35:16

to pay for a polygraph.

00:35:18

I'll cover the cost,

00:35:19

and we'll we'll offer to have Steve Gray

00:35:23

be part of the process,

00:35:24

to interview Bowman

00:35:26

to see if he's telling the truth.

00:35:27

Let's find out.

00:35:28

At the men's of

00:35:29

the crime is what he alleges

00:35:30

it is, that he made an actual mistake

00:35:33

and that he just didn't

00:35:34

realize what he was doing.

00:35:35

I think he's going to fail

00:35:36

the polygraph unless, of course,

00:35:37

maybe he takes a Valium

00:35:39

and put some broken glass an issue,

00:35:41

not even sure

00:35:41

if that works on a polygraph.

00:35:43

But we've heard those stories before.

00:35:45

What do you think, Kyle?

00:35:46

You think it's a good idea?

00:35:47

We put up the I'll pay for the polygraph.

00:35:49

We put up the opportunity

00:35:50

for him to clear his name.

00:35:52

Clear his name.

00:35:52

He must want that. I'm sure he does.

00:35:54

He doesn't need to.

00:35:54

He's got the mainstream media

00:35:55

that's running cover for himself

00:35:57

that's going to they're going to run it.

00:35:58

It's better than any

00:35:59

any other messaging campaign

00:36:00

you could have.

00:36:01

And either got to remember that

00:36:03

the pre interview to the polygraph

00:36:05

is the most important

00:36:06

part of the polygraph.

00:36:07

So going over those questions

00:36:09

and letting him know

00:36:10

this is exactly what I'm going to ask you

00:36:12

on that polygraph

00:36:14

that gets it

00:36:15

set in his head

00:36:16

and it goes through his head

00:36:17

over and over again. my gosh.

00:36:18

What's that needle going to do?

00:36:20

How is it going to react?

00:36:21

I say this and the other thing is this.

00:36:23

The people that

00:36:24

got Kyle,

00:36:25

both the polygraph multiple times, So

00:36:28

we had to do it as part of our job

00:36:30

to keep our security clearance.

00:36:31

And we had some truth.

00:36:33

And they asked you

00:36:33

some pretty wicked questions

00:36:35

on that polygraph,

00:36:37

you know, to make sure that you're

00:36:39

you know,

00:36:39

you're living within your means.

00:36:41

You're living

00:36:42

the lifestyle of an FBI agent

00:36:44

and you're doing the right thing

00:36:45

and always telling the truth.

00:36:46

So, you know,

00:36:47

we've taken those tests multiple times

00:36:50

and it doesn't matter

00:36:51

how many times you take it,

00:36:52

it is always hair raising.

00:36:55

I mean, once they start slipping

00:36:56

everything around you,

00:36:58

around your chest or your fingers,

00:37:00

the blood pressure cup.

00:37:01

But they also Lance,

00:37:02

I don't know if you know it or not,

00:37:03

but they also put something on your feet

00:37:04

as well

00:37:05

to make sure you're not pushing down on.

00:37:07

So they put it under your butt.

00:37:08

Do they put it out of your butt, too?

00:37:10

Yeah. Yeah.

00:37:10

They're actually doing the course ago

00:37:11

when I was a contractor.

00:37:13

So I know some of that

00:37:14

because some of the stuff

00:37:15

that we were doing for governments,

00:37:17

you know,

00:37:17

they obviously put you

00:37:18

through some of the ropes.

00:37:19

But yeah, absolutely.

00:37:21

I'm sure Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff,

00:37:23

Nadler, etc..

00:37:25

And I'm sure they've all had polygraphs.

00:37:27

Sure. Yeah.

00:37:28

Well,

00:37:28

if they did, the machines

00:37:29

probably blew up

00:37:30

because I don't think any of those people

00:37:32

you just named are capable

00:37:34

of telling the truth ever. I agree.

00:37:36

You know, and here and here's the thing.

00:37:38

So George outed the smoking

00:37:40

gun of the school education

00:37:41

along with Kyle.

00:37:42

So let's face it, I agree

00:37:44

he probably, as principal

00:37:46

was part

00:37:47

of the organizing of fire drills.

00:37:50

There are

00:37:50

there are videos of him at fire

00:37:52

stations and bringing firefighters

00:37:53

into his into his school.

00:37:56

There is no chance

00:37:57

this man doesn't know what exactly

00:37:58

he was getting involved in. It's absurd.

00:38:00

It's absurd on his face.

00:38:01

But look, the bigger

00:38:02

the lie, the more you repeat it,

00:38:03

the more likely

00:38:04

we've got a whole host of people

00:38:06

that have flocked to it.

00:38:07

MSNBC did a whole thing.

00:38:08

They said, look, it was no big deal.

00:38:09

It just happened and it was an accident.

00:38:11

Let's move on.

00:38:11

Why are we even wasting our time?

00:38:13

We couldn't have that conversation

00:38:14

in in January of 2021.

00:38:16

The FBI certainly couldn't do it.

00:38:18

And, you know,

00:38:18

when you have the Capitol Police,

00:38:19

which is kind of like a glorified

00:38:21

security guard organization,

00:38:23

I don't mean to be mean about them,

00:38:24

but they're not considered to be

00:38:25

they're not an investigative organization

00:38:27

in any way, shape or form.

00:38:29

So why would they do anything

00:38:30

other than ask him what he said?

00:38:31

They work for him.

00:38:32

They work for the speakers. Yeah.

00:38:34

We all

00:38:35

we've got to take a commercial break.

00:38:36

We'll be back.

00:38:37

Lance will be back in 2 minutes

00:38:39

when we come back. Don't go anywhere.

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Right now.

00:42:45

Testing.

00:43:07

Let's hold on.

00:43:08

We're put it up.

00:43:12

no.

00:43:12

I know what happened.

00:43:13

Fucking my fault.

00:43:16

All right, Media four.

00:43:18

So that sign

00:43:18

right there, I understand

00:43:19

there were several of them near the door,

00:43:22

and it's plural that he threw signs.

00:43:25

There's also an image there of him

00:43:27

actually pulling the fire alarm.

00:43:28

We haven't seen actual video yet, Steve.

00:43:32

He threw the sign.

00:43:33

This just

00:43:34

appears to me to add more guilt.

00:43:35

And it seems to me

00:43:36

like he was agitated, to say the least.

00:43:40

Yeah, that

00:43:41

that is definitely representative

00:43:43

of somebody that's having a bad day.

00:43:45

So he tosses the sign

00:43:47

and then he pulls the fire alarm,

00:43:50

obviously on purpose to delay the vote

00:43:54

because things weren't going the way

00:43:55

he and the squad wanted it to.

00:43:57

So he decided on himself

00:44:00

to take the action to delay that vote.

00:44:02

And by doing that,

00:44:03

he pulled an obvious fire alarm.

00:44:05

We've all seen it.

00:44:06

Now you can't distinguish it.

00:44:08

There are no buttons to open those doors

00:44:11

other than to use your hand.

00:44:12

Push the door open so

00:44:15

you know

00:44:16

the man's guilty and you know,

00:44:19

this is a common sense issue.

00:44:21

That's all this is. It's common sense.

00:44:24

What would a reasonable person do

00:44:26

if he were in the same situation

00:44:29

and the reasonable person

00:44:31

would never pull the fire alarm?

00:44:32

Period.

00:44:35

Kyle,

00:44:37

let's start talking about the crimes.

00:44:38

Give me your statement on him

00:44:40

throwing the signs.

00:44:41

To me,

00:44:41

that's kind of an added, agitated,

00:44:43

kind of a premeditated thought process.

00:44:46

He's angry.

00:44:47

He starts throwing the signs

00:44:48

out of the way.

00:44:49

He isn't getting what he wants,

00:44:50

and then that's

00:44:51

when he goes to the fire alarm.

00:44:52

Your thoughts?

00:44:53

Well, you can't say that

00:44:54

he didn't know

00:44:54

that there was a fire alarm there,

00:44:56

that it was a blocked door. Right.

00:44:58

Like he's out there.

00:44:59

If he's flipping over the sign,

00:45:00

all it says is that he saw the sign

00:45:02

because he had to lay hands on it.

00:45:03

He didn't

00:45:03

go like in

00:45:04

some sort of like blind rage

00:45:05

or feel his way out there in the dark.

00:45:07

The guy's walking through

00:45:08

a well-lit hallway.

00:45:09

It was right about noon.

00:45:10

And and as was mentioned

00:45:12

earlier, is in some of the the

00:45:14

the back and forth,

00:45:14

he could have texted

00:45:15

and asked for a little bit more time

00:45:17

because he was in route.

00:45:19

It's not like these

00:45:19

things are on a clock at once.

00:45:21

The you know, the big hand hits

00:45:23

the little hand that it's all over

00:45:25

and they have to shut this down.

00:45:26

They have flexibility on here.

00:45:27

This is a post-COVID world.

00:45:29

So they had the ability

00:45:30

to text things that some of these people

00:45:31

like representing

00:45:32

from like teleconference.

00:45:33

They're not even showing up

00:45:34

for physical votes.

00:45:35

So the idea that he had to run

00:45:37

through a closed door

00:45:39

and then even if he did,

00:45:41

we saw the signs on the door.

00:45:42

The door says that

00:45:43

it looks like crash bars.

00:45:44

What's going to unlock it? Right.

00:45:45

What does that

00:45:47

There you go.

00:45:48

That looks like

00:45:48

it looks like a fire

00:45:49

alarm last, don't it?

00:45:52

It's pretty obvious.

00:45:53

I mean, I saw absurd on his face.

00:45:55

Here's the sad thing. Like we're in go.

00:45:57

We're negotiating

00:45:57

whether or not this guy

00:45:58

did something that is stupid and silly

00:46:00

that should it's like

00:46:02

it's a middle school prank,

00:46:03

which he used to be in charge

00:46:04

of a middle school.

00:46:05

He's probably experienced

00:46:06

this prank before.

00:46:07

Somebody doesn't want to take a test.

00:46:09

Somebody doesn't

00:46:09

want something to happen.

00:46:10

They pull the fire alarm.

00:46:11

Is that the kind of juvenile nature

00:46:13

that we have in our

00:46:14

and our representatives

00:46:15

that have gone out there,

00:46:16

this sort of auspicious office,

00:46:17

they're supposed to be

00:46:18

representing their constituents

00:46:19

and instead

00:46:20

they're running around

00:46:20

pulling fire alarms like a like a

00:46:22

like an eighth grader

00:46:23

who does want to take a spelling test.

00:46:24

It's sad.

00:46:25

It's sad that

00:46:26

that's the conversation

00:46:27

we're going to be having

00:46:28

instead of the fact

00:46:28

that we did a continuing resolution

00:46:30

and we funded our government,

00:46:31

which it should have been shut down.

00:46:34

You know,

00:46:34

that was the whole point of

00:46:35

it was the whole point

00:46:36

of taking over the house.

00:46:38

We were expecting the Republicans

00:46:40

to hold the line,

00:46:41

start doing single issue

00:46:42

spending bills, and start

00:46:43

actually approving our government's

00:46:45

funding, an appropriate funds

00:46:46

the way that it was designed to be,

00:46:47

not these enormous omnibus bills.

00:46:49

And a continuing resolution is just

00:46:51

a resolution is just kicking

00:46:52

the can down.

00:46:53

They said, you know what,

00:46:53

We don't want to deal with this problem.

00:46:55

There's too many things on the line.

00:46:56

Let's just keep the funding where it is.

00:46:58

Stephen I have both been paid under RS

00:47:00

is the dumbest thing in the world.

00:47:02

Like I'd rather have it shut down.

00:47:03

I had enough money in my pocket.

00:47:05

The people that don't have made

00:47:06

their own personal bad decisions,

00:47:08

they're a national security

00:47:09

risk, in my opinion.

00:47:10

If you can't afford to go

00:47:11

for a paycheck or two,

00:47:12

I mean, the federal government

00:47:13

pays pretty well

00:47:14

for the kind of work that they demand of

00:47:15

You can work as hard as you want,

00:47:17

but you don't have to.

00:47:18

You said you expected the government

00:47:19

to do whatever work it is supposed to do.

00:47:21

So here's the scenario,

00:47:22

because some of you ask this question to

00:47:24

I'll give you

00:47:25

all FBI agents take their oath of office.

00:47:28

We expect them

00:47:28

to honor the oath of office,

00:47:29

but a lot of them aren't.

00:47:31

It doesn't mean anything

00:47:32

to any of them anymore.

00:47:33

I'm not you guys, but the FBI. What? My.

00:47:35

My buddy

00:47:36

Steve Friend

00:47:36

wrote a really good piece about this.

00:47:37

He said a lot of people

00:47:38

must be coming in.

00:47:39

And I have to say that

00:47:40

the director of the FBI

00:47:42

and the attorney general

00:47:43

seem to have the same attitude.

00:47:44

They're treating it

00:47:45

like an iPhone service agreement,

00:47:46

like when you upgrade your software,

00:47:47

like, hey, here's all this stuff.

00:47:49

Do you scroll through that?

00:47:50

Do you agree to that?

00:47:51

Because otherwise

00:47:51

we're not going to upgrade your

00:47:52

your software.

00:47:53

You go, yeah, I agree. I agree.

00:47:54

I agree.

00:47:55

The Constitution.

00:47:56

I don't know

00:47:56

how many people actually know what it is

00:47:58

that they're even agreeing to

00:47:59

at this point.

00:47:59

I would love to start querying

00:48:01

federal agents and set them down.

00:48:03

And I'm

00:48:03

not asking them

00:48:04

to say whether they're

00:48:04

swearing allegiance to the Article

00:48:06

One powers of Congress

00:48:07

or the Article

00:48:07

two powers of the executive,

00:48:09

or that they are going to defend

00:48:10

the Article three powers, the judiciary.

00:48:12

I want to know,

00:48:12

do you know what the Bill of Rights

00:48:13

looks like?

00:48:13

Because that's all that really

00:48:14

where the rubber meets the road for me.

00:48:16

Do you know what you are

00:48:17

not allowed to do?

00:48:18

You know that

00:48:18

you're not allowed to infringe

00:48:19

on civil liberties,

00:48:21

specifically my free religion,

00:48:23

the freedom of the press,

00:48:24

which we have a big problem

00:48:25

with right now,

00:48:26

the freedom to assemble,

00:48:27

which we apparently have run roughshod

00:48:28

over that thing.

00:48:29

And, you know,

00:48:30

the idea that you can discuss ideas

00:48:31

that are inflammatory

00:48:33

and then maybe stay out of my gun

00:48:34

locker, too,

00:48:34

I don't want you coming into my safe.

00:48:36

How about all those things?

00:48:37

These are really straightforward things.

00:48:38

That's what you're

00:48:38

wearing your allegiance to.

00:48:39

And how many guys know that?

00:48:41

I know Steve does,

00:48:41

because we've talked about it.

00:48:43

I know. Guys used to know that.

00:48:45

All right, hold on.

00:48:46

I'm going to say some.

00:48:47

When Trump wins next year

00:48:48

and becomes president, I vote.

00:48:51

I nominate

00:48:53

you gentlemen to run the frickin FBI.

00:48:55

Either dismantle it and start over.

00:48:57

I don't care. Just fix it.

00:48:58

You guys up for the task?

00:49:01

Yeah, absolutely.

00:49:02

starting with 36.

00:49:03

Do you let me hear something from you?

00:49:04

Listen, I ran.

00:49:05

I ran on that for Congress.

00:49:07

I know. I wanted.

00:49:09

I wanted to basically strip

00:49:11

the FBI down the top down.

00:49:13

First thing.

00:49:14

What we have to do with the FBI is

00:49:15

you got to get rid of upper management.

00:49:17

Upper management

00:49:18

is one of the biggest problems

00:49:20

that we have in the FBI right now,

00:49:22

because these guys

00:49:23

are all toeing the line, doing

00:49:25

whatever they are told to do,

00:49:27

and they don't rock the boat.

00:49:29

They just want to get out,

00:49:30

get that big cushy

00:49:32

security job at a big firm

00:49:34

like Pfizer and make,

00:49:36

you know, $1 a year.

00:49:37

That's what they're looking for.

00:49:39

Yeah, there's no doubt.

00:49:41

And I think

00:49:42

your guys positions at the FBI

00:49:44

could really be

00:49:45

supported strongly if I was the OIG,

00:49:48

because I can tell you this right now,

00:49:50

if they ever gave me a budget

00:49:52

and the authority,

00:49:53

yeah,

00:49:54

we're bagging and tag in

00:49:55

as fast as we can wrap these people up

00:49:57

because the amount of crimes

00:49:58

that are participating

00:49:59

is just disgusting.

00:50:01

What I'm tired of is exactly what Kyle

00:50:03

just just nailed.

00:50:05

I am so sick of the way

00:50:07

that they just manipulate the rules

00:50:11

and regulations

00:50:12

in any way that they want to.

00:50:14

It's clear that he did this.

00:50:16

They want to apply the law rules for the

00:50:18

not for me.

00:50:20

There is no rule of law.

00:50:21

I look at the way that

00:50:23

so many of the agencies

00:50:25

are violating the laws,

00:50:26

even in investigations,

00:50:27

whether it's illegal

00:50:28

wiretaps, illegal jeeps.

00:50:30

I mean, there was a large national issue

00:50:33

that nobody's ever really addressed

00:50:35

correctly.

00:50:35

Securus, who provides the phone system

00:50:38

for all prisons across the United States,

00:50:40

had a problem in the software.

00:50:42

All the DOJ, FBI and all the agents

00:50:45

that were investigating cases

00:50:46

where they had

00:50:47

defendants on

00:50:48

pretrial holds were Securus facilities,

00:50:51

were actually providing

00:50:52

the phone services in the facilities.

00:50:54

Those those software flaws allowed them

00:50:56

to get all the legal calls unrestricted,

00:51:00

fully record.

00:51:00

It didn't matter

00:51:01

whether it was the paralegals

00:51:02

or the private investigators.

00:51:04

Those cases have broke out in Texas,

00:51:07

Kansas, Boston and California.

00:51:10

And yet nobody's unified in saying, wow,

00:51:12

it impacted thousands of federal cases.

00:51:15

We've got an issue

00:51:16

we probably need to remand

00:51:17

and reverse a lot of these charges

00:51:18

because they were actually

00:51:19

cheating the entire time.

00:51:21

But it's those kind of things

00:51:23

that are happening in volume

00:51:24

across the country.

00:51:25

And it's the way they operate,

00:51:27

just like bombing.

00:51:29

I we both chuckled, Steve, when he said,

00:51:31

I don't understand why this

00:51:32

is getting so much attention,

00:51:34

but yet

00:51:35

the same thing that Kyle said

00:51:38

and you said about the arrest.

00:51:39

You've got Jay,

00:51:40

six people

00:51:41

that literally saw the door open

00:51:43

and walked inside.

00:51:44

I have to be honest,

00:51:45

George and I almost went to the Capitol.

00:51:48

Had I seen the signs

00:51:49

that said don't enter,

00:51:50

I probably wouldn't have.

00:51:51

But I have to tell you,

00:51:52

when I saw the guy with his feet

00:51:53

up on Nancy Pelosi's desk, I was jealous.

00:51:58

And as stupid as that is,

00:51:59

I might have been that guy.

00:52:00

The point is, people were trying

00:52:02

to redress their grievances.

00:52:03

And I believe the only reason

00:52:04

violence popped off as a comparison

00:52:07

and the most recent comparisons

00:52:08

when people said they were comparing

00:52:10

Jay 6 to 9 one one,

00:52:12

I personally was disgusted by this.

00:52:14

I still think there's many things

00:52:16

that are in question about 911.

00:52:19

And for for anybody to compare January 6

00:52:21

to 911 and the loss of life,

00:52:23

you guys, both as federal

00:52:24

agents have to be offended by that,

00:52:26

because I'm offended by it.

00:52:27

At the same time, when I see these

00:52:30

these grandmothers

00:52:31

and these people that are being arrested

00:52:33

for simply walking in the Capitol,

00:52:34

some of them are waving at the guards

00:52:36

and walking through.

00:52:37

Some of them are giving out

00:52:38

sandwiches and cookies.

00:52:40

How the hell do you arrest

00:52:41

these people and justify those actions?

00:52:43

And then the

00:52:44

and then the exculpatory

00:52:45

and Brady material

00:52:46

that's being destroyed.

00:52:48

They destroyed so much evidence

00:52:50

and they didn't provide people

00:52:51

the ability to defend themselves.

00:52:53

They have a right to have that material.

00:52:55

And here they are hiding it.

00:52:56

Kyle, your thoughts on this,

00:52:57

because this bombing

00:52:58

is just a further extension to me

00:53:00

of everything wrong that's in DC.

00:53:01

He's like the poster child right now,

00:53:03

him and Dianne Feinstein,

00:53:04

we can put them both on a poster

00:53:05

term limits and reasons

00:53:07

that people in Congress suck.

00:53:09

So the thing that keeps occurring to me,

00:53:11

there was a movie that was years ago.

00:53:13

It was one of those

00:53:14

kind of depressing movies.

00:53:15

You thought it was going to

00:53:15

be a good date movie,

00:53:16

and it turns out to be pretty awful.

00:53:18

And and it was called the

00:53:20

it was called the break up,

00:53:21

I want to say.

00:53:21

Does that sound right?

00:53:22

Yeah,

00:53:23

I know that Vince Vaughn

00:53:24

and it had Jennifer what was her name

00:53:27

anyhow know we apart like that.

00:53:30

So it gets to the crux of the issue

00:53:31

there and

00:53:33

the scene is playing in my head.

00:53:34

He gets she gets really mad at him

00:53:36

because he didn't do the dishes

00:53:37

and he goes,

00:53:38

All you have to do is like,

00:53:39

you know, tell me to do dishes.

00:53:40

She goes, No, no, no.

00:53:41

I want you to want to do the dishes,

00:53:44

which is completely

00:53:45

like fundamentally bizarre to men.

00:53:47

We're like,

00:53:47

Why would I want to do the dishes?

00:53:48

Which is what Vince Vaughn says.

00:53:50

I want federal agents

00:53:51

to want to do the right thing.

00:53:53

Okay?

00:53:54

I want them to want to not listen to jail

00:53:56

phone calls

00:53:57

that have an attorney on there.

00:53:58

Is it easier to find out

00:53:59

what the legal defense strategy

00:54:01

is to build your case? Of course it is.

00:54:02

And they might be having some things

00:54:03

where they admit to something

00:54:05

they are entitled to due process.

00:54:06

We have to be above that.

00:54:07

You have to be better than that.

00:54:09

And if your case is so weak

00:54:10

and your investigative ability

00:54:12

is so pathetic

00:54:13

that you need to have the guy

00:54:15

in a privileged conversation

00:54:16

spill it in a way

00:54:18

that if we had that happen,

00:54:19

we would be all over

00:54:20

trying to tamper down

00:54:21

for national security reasons,

00:54:22

if that's the thing

00:54:22

that's going to break your case,

00:54:24

man, screw you.

00:54:25

You suck. Go out and do your job harder.

00:54:27

I had the same conversation

00:54:28

with the president of the FBI

00:54:29

Agents Association.

00:54:31

He said he thought

00:54:31

we should crack all end

00:54:33

to end encrypted apps

00:54:34

because theoretically,

00:54:35

maybe some terrorists could hide there

00:54:37

and maybe some shell pornographers

00:54:38

could hide there.

00:54:39

And I said, you don't break the tool

00:54:40

just because someone uses it wrong.

00:54:42

You don't stop having locks

00:54:43

just because someone used a lock

00:54:44

to somebody

00:54:45

in a closed room

00:54:46

and in prison, that

00:54:47

it's a it's a small, small

00:54:49

fraction of things that happened wrong.

00:54:51

You still have to do the right thing

00:54:52

when it happens.

00:54:53

And so my problem is

00:54:54

I want federal agents

00:54:55

to do the right thing.

00:54:56

And here's the other funny thing.

00:54:57

That's what the Durham report said.

00:54:59

It said the problem is not with policies

00:55:01

and procedures at the FBI.

00:55:02

The problem is people

00:55:03

have not taken the oath

00:55:04

and they have not taken

00:55:05

fidelity, bravery and integrity

00:55:07

to heart

00:55:08

and tried to live that out as a mantra.

00:55:09

So Steve and I are sitting out here

00:55:11

looking at an agency

00:55:12

that is full of corrupt cracks

00:55:13

all the way up to the top.

00:55:15

You've got guys

00:55:15

at the deputy director level

00:55:17

who have girlfriends that work

00:55:18

for the FBI

00:55:19

that they're not supposed to have

00:55:20

that are getting no show jobs in DC

00:55:22

that may or may not show up in the press.

00:55:23

But that's what happened.

00:55:24

We've got the name

00:55:25

and the receipts to back it up.

00:55:26

Multiple people from the FBI's

00:55:28

have come forward and talked to people

00:55:30

that have share that information with me.

00:55:31

It's been reported to the Office

00:55:32

of the Inspector General.

00:55:33

We've got people

00:55:34

that are the

00:55:35

the head person at the

00:55:37

at the human resources division

00:55:38

going out

00:55:39

after pro-life Christians

00:55:41

who said

00:55:41

we don't want to get a vaccine shot.

00:55:43

And they decided basically

00:55:44

if you're not going to get

00:55:45

the shot,

00:55:45

you're not going to drop a knee

00:55:46

for what we need you to,

00:55:48

we're going to crush you.

00:55:49

So they pulled security clearances.

00:55:50

I had my security clearance

00:55:51

pulled over, having a conversation

00:55:53

with a local police

00:55:53

officer in New Mexico.

00:55:55

We were just chatting.

00:55:56

He goes, Hey, man,

00:55:57

can you not shoot here?

00:55:58

And I said, I'm a Second Amendment guy.

00:56:00

I'm a federal agent.

00:56:01

I'm wearing my freakin badge

00:56:02

on my on my belt right now.

00:56:03

And I'm working out of a $500 pistol rig.

00:56:05

No, I'm going to keep shooting out here

00:56:07

in a safe direction,

00:56:08

a half mile away from anybody.

00:56:09

That's not even a building near me.

00:56:12

And he goes, Yeah, okay, I understand.

00:56:13

And I quoted the state law.

00:56:14

I mean, he didn't know what it was.

00:56:15

It was a non interaction.

00:56:16

The FBI pulled my clearance for it. Why?

00:56:18

Because I also said I wouldn't

00:56:20

put stuff up my nose every 72 hours

00:56:22

and get a COVID test.

00:56:23

So when that's the kind of agency

00:56:24

we're dealing with,

00:56:25

of course they're going to push the line

00:56:27

and it goes all the way down

00:56:28

to the front line supervisors.

00:56:29

You know, Steve used to be a GS 14.

00:56:31

He was a frontline supervisor.

00:56:32

He was a squad supervisor.

00:56:33

Those are the guys that are

00:56:34

actually sending people into action.

00:56:37

They're the guys that are sending people

00:56:38

to pro-life activists house

00:56:39

and knocking down these doors.

00:56:40

It actually is a much bigger problem

00:56:42

with culture

00:56:43

because the people

00:56:43

that have raised their hand

00:56:44

and said, yes, I'm

00:56:44

going to be a supervisor,

00:56:46

haven't taken on the honor

00:56:47

that it should take on to do that.

00:56:48

Yeah, I agree.

00:56:49

Take on a little bit

00:56:50

of a bigger paycheck.

00:56:51

You become an administrative agent,

00:56:52

you don't get to kick down doors anymore.

00:56:54

You don't

00:56:54

do you do a lot of the fun stuff

00:56:55

that we used to be able to do.

00:56:56

If you want to be a 14, but guess what?

00:56:58

You also have to set the line

00:57:00

for what's right and wrong,

00:57:01

and you got to model it too.

00:57:02

We don't have management.

00:57:03

I mean, we have all the management,

00:57:04

rather it's always from the top down.

00:57:06

The corruption

00:57:07

always starts at the top down,

00:57:08

because I still believe

00:57:09

there's many good agents in the FBI,

00:57:11

there's many good agents in the DHS,

00:57:14

there's many good agents

00:57:14

all through Washington, DC.

00:57:16

But when you have that kind of influence

00:57:18

coming from the top and

00:57:20

and they're allowing and actually

00:57:22

promoting these kind of things

00:57:24

and then the fact is

00:57:25

without accountability or consequences,

00:57:27

it's like that bartender

00:57:28

they start stealing with from you,

00:57:30

you know, in a bar,

00:57:31

he steals one beer,

00:57:32

he gets away with the next night,

00:57:33

he steals two beers, the next I.D.

00:57:34

steals three beers.

00:57:35

You still haven't caught him.

00:57:36

By the end of the month,

00:57:36

you're paying his rent.

00:57:38

And the point is, that's the difference.

00:57:40

Nobody is paying the price.

00:57:42

The American public pays the price.

00:57:44

When people get charged.

00:57:45

The consequences of J.

00:57:46

Six, the consequences of other things.

00:57:48

When you look at the dirty 51 plus eight

00:57:51

and you look at the Russian

00:57:52

collusion hoax,

00:57:53

there's nobody assigned that document

00:57:55

that said that that was a legitimate

00:57:58

issue, that that really happened.

00:58:00

All of those people

00:58:02

committed treason, in my opinion,

00:58:04

because they they were

00:58:05

they were attacking a sitting president

00:58:07

and they ought to have their clearance.

00:58:08

And I don't. Yeah.

00:58:10

All of a sudden, a civilian, right?

00:58:12

A civilian, then a president.

00:58:13

And here they are investigated.

00:58:15

I mean,

00:58:15

you would listen to Dennis Montgomery

00:58:17

and the tools that are being used

00:58:18

that were foreign

00:58:20

surveillance tools

00:58:21

that have been turned

00:58:22

on the American public.

00:58:23

In 2006,

00:58:24

he turned over 50

00:58:25

some disks to the FBI and other agencies

00:58:28

in a skiff back in Washington, DC.

00:58:30

Nothing's ever come out of those desk.

00:58:31

He proved it.

00:58:32

What did they do?

00:58:33

They tried to discredit him

00:58:34

just like they do everybody else.

00:58:35

Somebody brings up the truth.

00:58:36

And Steve, I want to

00:58:37

I want you to chime in here

00:58:38

and then obviously

00:58:40

means you're on fire about Jamal.

00:58:42

I would be remiss

00:58:44

to not show the big mi mafia

00:58:46

some of these means

00:58:47

that are floating around.

00:58:48

A couple of them flat cracked me up.

00:58:50

But Steve, give me your input.

00:58:51

Last words on Bowman.

00:58:53

I think he's guilty.

00:58:54

Tell me what you think

00:58:55

about what

00:58:56

Kyle just said about this

00:58:57

top down influence.

00:58:59

Absolutely.

00:59:00

It's an

00:59:00

I was a headquarters supervisor,

00:59:02

which means I worked out of Washington,

00:59:03

DC for two years

00:59:05

directly with Charlie McGonigle.

00:59:07

We all know Charlie got it.

00:59:08

He was my unit chief.

00:59:10

He was also my S.A.C.

00:59:12

when I was in New York City.

00:59:15

You know,

00:59:16

these are the individuals

00:59:17

that we're dealing with within the FBI.

00:59:19

I also sat on the promotion board

00:59:21

within headquarters,

00:59:22

which meant that

00:59:23

we looked over

00:59:24

the promotional material of candidates,

00:59:27

decided

00:59:27

who would be promoted into headquarters.

00:59:30

But, you know,

00:59:31

I was the type of person

00:59:32

that continually

00:59:34

asked a lot of questions,

00:59:35

and I was

00:59:36

sort of a boat rocker

00:59:37

because I didn't always go with the flow.

00:59:40

And I wasn't going to go well.

00:59:41

I asked a lot of questions.

00:59:43

So in one instance

00:59:44

where we're in a promotion board,

00:59:46

we got a knock at the door,

00:59:47

and a knock at the door is a unit chief,

00:59:49

and the new chief comes in and says,

00:59:50

Hey, listen, this is the guy that I want

00:59:54

and hands over the paper.

00:59:55

So

00:59:57

first of all, there was no

01:00:00

everybody was already to say,

01:00:01

okay, let's let's promote this guy.

01:00:04

But there was a hint,

01:00:04

a stack of papers

01:00:05

for people across the country

01:00:07

that were looking for the same job

01:00:09

that were for better qualified.

01:00:11

But because this person

01:00:13

was a buddy of the unit chief

01:00:15

and he did absolutely no work

01:00:17

in the putting

01:00:18

his promotion act together,

01:00:20

you know, he's the one that got the job.

01:00:22

And there was only one

01:00:23

dissenting vote in that room

01:00:24

and that was me.

01:00:25

And of course,

01:00:26

I took a lot of flak for that.

01:00:27

But this is the FBI

01:00:29

that we're dealing with today.

01:00:30

Now, this was back in 2007.

01:00:34

Think about this.

01:00:35

This problem

01:00:35

has gotten

01:00:36

substantially worse from seven to today.

01:00:40

And I watched it get worse and worse

01:00:42

to the point where I threw

01:00:44

all of my stuff on the desk.

01:00:46

And I retired that day

01:00:48

that we pulled in a 65 year

01:00:51

old grandmother for a January six protest

01:00:54

who just wanted to go see Donald Trump

01:00:57

because she was standing

01:00:58

near the Capitol.

01:00:59

They arrested her. I think it's it's

01:01:03

I don't normally cuss on air

01:01:05

a bunch of bullshit

01:01:06

what we've done to these

01:01:07

individuals is a crime in itself.

01:01:11

The January six protest

01:01:13

and the fact that

01:01:14

we had known instigators from the FBI

01:01:17

in that and within the protesters

01:01:21

that were causing problems

01:01:22

that were doing things

01:01:23

that they shouldn't, not that matter,

01:01:25

but not to mention the Antifa members

01:01:28

that were in there

01:01:29

and the Black Lives

01:01:30

Matter people that were in there

01:01:31

all causing problems

01:01:33

and that we're going to pin it

01:01:34

on a few people that walked into the door

01:01:36

of the of the Capitol.

01:01:38

All of the rest of these people

01:01:39

get off scot free.

01:01:40

And I want to add one more thing.

01:01:42

I was working on a Saturday

01:01:44

with a group of people in my office

01:01:46

at the FBI in New York City

01:01:49

when Black Lives Matter

01:01:51

protesters broke through the glass

01:01:54

doors of the federal building,

01:01:55

trying to get in

01:01:57

and were basically in the lobby.

01:02:00

Now, nothing happened

01:02:01

to those individuals,

01:02:03

even though they broke the glass

01:02:04

and the doors

01:02:05

and entered

01:02:05

illegally into the

01:02:07

into the federal building,

01:02:08

Nothing happened to them.

01:02:10

But we're locking up 65 year

01:02:11

old grandmothers.

01:02:12

It's a crime.

01:02:14

And that is so absolutely.

01:02:16

You just nailed it.

01:02:17

And, you know, and people are looking

01:02:18

for that equal application

01:02:20

of the law, equal protection on the law.

01:02:22

They want the rule of law

01:02:23

to apply equally.

01:02:24

If somebody is guilty,

01:02:25

regardless of party

01:02:26

affiliation, color, religion,

01:02:28

they want them prosecute.

01:02:29

And if somebody is not guilty,

01:02:31

what they don't want

01:02:31

is misapplication of moral right.

01:02:33

What they don't want is a weaponized DOJ,

01:02:36

a weaponized FBI,

01:02:37

that you get these policies

01:02:38

that are being handed down

01:02:39

by the administration and others.

01:02:41

And and they're decided, let's face it,

01:02:44

that advantage

01:02:45

six when you go

01:02:46

and you watch them

01:02:47

on the front line videos

01:02:48

and what videos they've given us.

01:02:49

Another thing that McCarthy said

01:02:50

he was going to do and didn't do,

01:02:52

another one of those floated stories

01:02:54

to get the position of speaker,

01:02:56

the less lethal to use it

01:02:57

munitions that started popping off.

01:02:59

If you look

01:03:01

and anybody that's done

01:03:02

any kind of service knows

01:03:03

that when you start using pop smoke,

01:03:05

it's one of the ways you communicate.

01:03:07

There are different colors of pop

01:03:08

smoke happening in the crowd.

01:03:10

And I would say

01:03:11

that they were multiple federal agents

01:03:13

or maybe multiple

01:03:14

special forces

01:03:15

or other people communicating.

01:03:17

I also saw some hand signals

01:03:19

that were clearly military hand signals.

01:03:22

You look at Ray Epps at the front line

01:03:23

and look at some of the individuals

01:03:24

that were around him.

01:03:25

They're also some of the same individuals

01:03:27

that appear

01:03:28

to have broken through at the Capitol.

01:03:30

You look how long it took

01:03:31

to charge Ray Epps,

01:03:32

but Ray UPS is looking at a misdemeanor.

01:03:34

But yet there he is taking down barriers.

01:03:36

He did the same thing

01:03:38

that that proud boys

01:03:40

are being charged for.

01:03:41

But even more so,

01:03:42

he was telling people,

01:03:42

we're going to break into the Capitol,

01:03:44

we're going to do this.

01:03:44

We've got to go.

01:03:45

There's video after video.

01:03:47

And I believe it's

01:03:48

because he colluded with them.

01:03:50

I my opinion is

01:03:52

it all

01:03:52

should be exposed,

01:03:53

including all of Nancy Pelosi's

01:03:55

text messages and emails a week

01:03:57

leading up to the event,

01:03:58

because in my opinion,

01:04:00

the communication devices,

01:04:01

when you become

01:04:01

a congressional representative,

01:04:03

you should be open to search and seizure

01:04:06

at any moment.

01:04:07

And in my opinion, it's

01:04:08

ownership of the American public.

01:04:10

And I'm not talking about anything

01:04:10

that has to do with national security.

01:04:13

I'm talking about

01:04:15

the fact that it appears as though

01:04:17

there were many people

01:04:18

orchestrating the event.

01:04:19

We heard it all.

01:04:20

We had

01:04:20

we had one of the Capitol police on here.

01:04:22

We heard about Mangere and Pittman

01:04:24

and the in

01:04:26

way they went about dealing

01:04:27

with the calls

01:04:28

they got that there was more needed.

01:04:30

Many of the officers

01:04:31

were told to take that day off.

01:04:33

So here we are

01:04:34

with a gentleman

01:04:35

that obviously did much of the same.

01:04:38

He decided to interrupt

01:04:39

the official proceeding.

01:04:41

And Bowman is just that person.

01:04:42

Hey, George, can you throw up?

01:04:43

We're going to I'm going

01:04:44

to lighten up the tone here,

01:04:46

and then I'm gonna let Kyle jump in

01:04:47

after I show these means.

01:04:48

Wrap it up

01:04:49

and we're going to go to the cartels

01:04:50

and we'll try to do that quickly.

01:04:51

I appreciate you guys being so patient.

01:04:53

Sorry about the technical stuff,

01:04:55

George Media six, if you don't mind

01:04:57

If you're there, I'm here.

01:05:00

You go.

01:05:01

Killing, you know the names.

01:05:02

The Teamsters are on fire, George.

01:05:04

You can rapid fire these media seven

01:05:07

and this is one of my favorites.

01:05:08

I like this one a lot.

01:05:09

I don't know why

01:05:10

I thought it was, well, well-executed.

01:05:13

It got a lot of likes.

01:05:15

You know,

01:05:17

There he is leading the charge.

01:05:19

Right.

01:05:19

And then media aide,

01:05:20

I did this one for your daughter, Kyle.

01:05:23

This is for your daughter.

01:05:24

She knows the difference.

01:05:25

Bowman clearly does not.

01:05:27

That's right.

01:05:29

Kyle.

01:05:30

We're going to go to the cartels.

01:05:31

Nick, forgive me. Your last words.

01:05:34

Guilty, not guilty.

01:05:35

Nolo contendere.

01:05:39

I mean, he did the thing

01:05:40

he said that he did

01:05:41

because he told everybody he did it.

01:05:42

Like, here's the thing.

01:05:43

We have a written confession

01:05:44

for the man in a statement,

01:05:45

plus talking points on

01:05:46

how to defend it in the press.

01:05:48

It's not even it's

01:05:49

not even a question of whether

01:05:50

what happened happened. It did.

01:05:52

He acknowledged it.

01:05:53

And so the investigation is already over.

01:05:55

We don't have to get any further into it.

01:05:56

All we need to know is,

01:05:58

is that

01:05:58

we're not looking at an equal application

01:05:59

of justice in this country

01:06:01

because this

01:06:01

like I said, this shouldn't be a thing

01:06:02

that we should be

01:06:03

spending our time talking about,

01:06:04

but we shouldn't be talking about

01:06:06

most of the things

01:06:06

that happened on January six, either.

01:06:07

And so, like you said,

01:06:09

fundamental fairness is lacking

01:06:11

dramatically in this country.

01:06:12

It's taken a vacation, is not come back.

01:06:14

I would love to see it come back.

01:06:15

I don't have a problem with people being

01:06:18

for committing crimes

01:06:19

as long as everybody is doing it.

01:06:20

And here's the thing it's

01:06:21

never really talked about

01:06:22

and I'd love to see it talked about more.

01:06:24

There are two ways that you can charge

01:06:25

a crime in Washington, DC.

01:06:27

You can charge it in the Superior Court,

01:06:28

which is the equivalent

01:06:29

of the state charges,

01:06:30

or you can charge it on the federal level

01:06:32

in the district court,

01:06:33

and they charge everything

01:06:34

in a district court

01:06:35

because they have heavy penalties.

01:06:36

They are much nastier.

01:06:38

They could have actually run

01:06:39

all these misdemeanors

01:06:40

through the Superior Court dockets,

01:06:41

which they would have been dismissed from

01:06:43

because they're dealing

01:06:43

with the things that deal with,

01:06:44

you know, violence in D.C.

01:06:46

People are getting stabbed

01:06:47

on a nightly basis.

01:06:48

People are getting shot

01:06:49

and robbed

01:06:49

and cars are being jacked

01:06:51

and all the other kind of horrible things

01:06:52

that go on in D.C..

01:06:53

DC is a war zone in many ways.

01:06:55

And I worked on the streets

01:06:55

there as a surveillance guy

01:06:57

for three years.

01:06:58

I saw all the worst parts of it

01:06:59

and rather than us messing around

01:07:00

that that's where those

01:07:01

those charges should have gone.

01:07:02

It's like,

01:07:03

you're a trespasser in the Capitol.

01:07:04

You've been charged with this thing.

01:07:06

It has been dismissed

01:07:06

because we're dealing with this dude.

01:07:08

He stabbed the lady in the neck

01:07:09

14 times last night.

01:07:10

We're going to probably handle that.

01:07:11

Instead, there was no prioritization.

01:07:13

They actually bumped up

01:07:14

the priority of something

01:07:15

that should have been a priority at all.

01:07:16

And so that's why

01:07:17

people feel like there's an injustice

01:07:18

that's happening.

01:07:19

So, you know,

01:07:20

they say that the FBI academy,

01:07:21

sometimes there's justice,

01:07:22

sometimes it's just us.

01:07:22

Right now it's just us. I'm just saying

01:07:25

I agree.

01:07:26

So, you know, we've seen the

01:07:29

our DC,

01:07:32

you know,

01:07:33

I call them the deep State cabal.

01:07:34

They're ineffective in Washington DC.

01:07:37

Their policies

01:07:38

are one of the worst policies

01:07:40

right now is the border.

01:07:42

They took an oath to protect it

01:07:43

from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

01:07:45

It appears as though

01:07:46

that's not a priority.

01:07:47

Illegal immigration.

01:07:49

I think they hit some crazy number

01:07:50

last month.

01:07:51

I think the number I heard

01:07:52

was 265 on actual gotchas,

01:07:56

not including the got two ways.

01:07:59

I mean, a new logo for the Border Patrol.

01:08:03

I wanted to change their name

01:08:04

to the welcome.

01:08:06

So I made them a new logo

01:08:07

that I put up on X the other day

01:08:09

because I think that's what we've got.

01:08:11

We've got people getting paid to do a job

01:08:12

and they're not allowed to do their job.

01:08:13

And I think many of them

01:08:14

are bothered by that.

01:08:15

But of course

01:08:16

it's the same thing

01:08:17

we just discussed from the top down.

01:08:19

The cartels have had a banner year,

01:08:21

Joe Biden and his administration.

01:08:23

I think they should get employees of year

01:08:26

for the cartels.

01:08:28

They've made more money than ever.

01:08:29

Human trafficking, child trafficking.

01:08:32

The coyotes are flusher than

01:08:35

ever realized.

01:08:36

The cartels have gotten much

01:08:37

more sophisticated.

01:08:39

They're investing their money

01:08:40

in advanced technology.

01:08:41

And that's what we're seeing.

01:08:42

I don't know how familiar you guys are.

01:08:44

I just broke story the other day.

01:08:46

I don't know how much

01:08:46

coverage it's got so far, but

01:08:48

up till now, the cartels have always

01:08:51

it's always been a pattern

01:08:52

that guns have moved north to south.

01:08:55

You've seen it with the Fast

01:08:56

and Furious investigation

01:08:58

using with others.

01:08:59

You guys,

01:09:00

how much do you know about the guns

01:09:01

moving north to south with the cartels?

01:09:03

What are you familiar with?

01:09:04

Either one of you know?

01:09:05

Want to go Steve first?

01:09:07

Well, you know,

01:09:08

I didn't have too much experience

01:09:10

with that

01:09:11

working in New York City,

01:09:12

but I know Kyle did working close to the,

01:09:15

you know,

01:09:17

living basically down there

01:09:18

and being close to the border.

01:09:19

But, yeah, we do know that for a fact

01:09:22

that a lot of the guns are purchased here

01:09:26

legally, packaged up

01:09:28

and then smuggled across the border

01:09:30

to the cartels

01:09:33

and that's the way it's

01:09:34

been since basically

01:09:35

the beginning of time.

01:09:37

And nothing has changed.

01:09:38

But what I understand now is that

01:09:40

things are going to get a lot worse.

01:09:42

I think they've got a plan.

01:09:43

Kyle,

01:09:44

give me your take on the flow of guns.

01:09:46

Up till now,

01:09:47

it's always been north or south.

01:09:49

You buy in the United States

01:09:49

where they're legal,

01:09:50

you're not allowed to own them.

01:09:51

In Mexico, that's a mexico problem.

01:09:53

It turns out it's actually a felony

01:09:54

in the United States, too,

01:09:55

because you're talking

01:09:56

about a straw purchase,

01:09:57

which means you're both

01:09:58

lying on a federal form,

01:09:59

the 4473 background check

01:10:01

as you buy the gun,

01:10:02

you could tell I buy a lot of them.

01:10:03

You know,

01:10:03

when you know the form names,

01:10:04

you know, you're one of those guys

01:10:05

that has a lot of them.

01:10:06

There's hundreds of those forms

01:10:07

with my name on them.

01:10:08

And they're buying the guns in the U.S.

01:10:10

They're buying them

01:10:11

as the non intended purchaser.

01:10:12

They're turning around, packing up.

01:10:13

They drive down through Arizona,

01:10:14

you know, Nogales or whatever it may be.

01:10:16

They're driving down

01:10:17

through my friends and

01:10:17

and Long Wells

01:10:18

or they're doing it in Las Cruces.

01:10:19

They're going down through Anthony.

01:10:20

They're going across the bridge.

01:10:21

The Americas,

01:10:22

or that becomes a mexican problem

01:10:23

because now you've got people on

01:10:25

the Mexican side

01:10:25

that are looking the other way as well.

01:10:27

Famous corruption that happens there.

01:10:29

But also,

01:10:29

you know,

01:10:30

you're breaking laws

01:10:30

and now two areas,

01:10:31

both in the United States

01:10:32

and in Mexico by doing that.

01:10:34

And the traffic has always been,

01:10:35

you know, from our area

01:10:36

where you can access them.

01:10:38

Firearms are plentiful

01:10:39

and we have a protected liberty to them.

01:10:40

The Mexicans don't have that privilege,

01:10:41

so they are having them that way.

01:10:43

So that's always been the case.

01:10:44

And unfortunately,

01:10:44

I even have friends like Victor

01:10:46

Aguilar, who was who was shot

01:10:48

and almost killed

01:10:48

and his partner actually

01:10:49

was killed

01:10:50

down in Mexico from guns

01:10:51

that run by the United States government,

01:10:53

because in theory,

01:10:54

we were actually trying to figure out

01:10:55

what the cartels were up to.

01:10:56

We were actively arming the cartels

01:10:58

through Fast and Furious.

01:10:59

So there's always been

01:11:00

a federal interest in.

01:11:01

It it's been ATF, it's

01:11:02

been FBI and others.

01:11:03

And, you know,

01:11:04

the problem is, is

01:11:05

when you put guns down

01:11:06

into the hands of people in the cartels

01:11:07

and they decide to come across the border

01:11:08

and do violence,

01:11:09

now they're armed with the kind of stuff

01:11:10

that we can buy legally

01:11:12

that they've been able

01:11:13

to traffic the people

01:11:13

and God knows who has them.

01:11:14

And so now you're dealing

01:11:15

with like a potential war zone.

01:11:16

So these guys are run out there

01:11:17

with 50 gals.

01:11:18

I mean, these guys are moving up there

01:11:19

with ease with. And that's a big point.

01:11:23

It's changing what iron sources in D.C.?

01:11:26

Well, it looks like

01:11:27

it's going to be a big difference.

01:11:29

The cartels have been able

01:11:30

to make major upgrades

01:11:31

on all their weapons caches, some of it

01:11:33

some of the weapons that we left behind,

01:11:35

$100 billion were the weapons

01:11:37

we left in Afghanistan.

01:11:38

We've seen them on the dark.

01:11:40

I'm going to show you some images.

01:11:41

We've seen cartel members with U.S.

01:11:44

Darkweb purchases, obviously,

01:11:46

because they've got anti-tank weapons.

01:11:49

We've seen sophisticated sniper systems.

01:11:51

We've seen some of the M force

01:11:52

and some of the other material.

01:11:54

We've seen some of the quad

01:11:55

mono goggles set up.

01:11:56

So $60 night vision set ups,

01:11:59

that's what the cartels,

01:12:01

the whole Cisco has been

01:12:02

one of the

01:12:04

most upgraded of the cartels,

01:12:05

but they're all doing it.

01:12:08

They also have

01:12:09

made inroads because we have identified

01:12:12

plenty of images.

01:12:13

We actually did it on the show here

01:12:14

not too long ago

01:12:15

on South African weapons.

01:12:17

As you know,

01:12:17

South Africa is one of the largest

01:12:19

manufacturers of

01:12:20

kind of third world weaponry.

01:12:22

I don't want to say third

01:12:23

world is not because of the quality,

01:12:24

but they are a big manufacturer

01:12:26

of lots of weapons systems.

01:12:28

And we've now identified

01:12:30

the cartels are showing up

01:12:31

with South Africa

01:12:32

and these are military grade weapons.

01:12:34

So up until now, the US grade weapons

01:12:37

they've been buying

01:12:38

are mostly civilian available.

01:12:40

Whether or not some of them were

01:12:41

or were actually manufactured.

01:12:43

And it's not new to the cartels

01:12:46

having gunsmith, they've always had guns.

01:12:48

That's why you see the gold

01:12:49

plated weapons in that

01:12:50

they've always had guns

01:12:51

to their own teams are fairly exclusive.

01:12:53

It doesn't matter which cartel it is.

01:12:55

They all have their own guys

01:12:56

that do the work.

01:12:57

But what's going on now

01:12:59

is there's evidence

01:13:00

that they've been buying 3D

01:13:01

in 40 million ways,

01:13:04

much like the ghost gunner system

01:13:06

that you guys are seen

01:13:07

for making ghost guns, which everybody

01:13:10

that doesn't know what a ghost gun

01:13:11

is, that's a non serial gun.

01:13:14

Usually the receivers are made

01:13:15

with one of these mills

01:13:16

and then you can easily buy parts.

01:13:18

It's a way to avoid filling out

01:13:20

federal paperwork

01:13:21

and create a weapon

01:13:23

that is

01:13:24

untraceable for the most part,

01:13:26

that's a ghost gunner mill,

01:13:28

but they've actually my sources

01:13:31

indicated that

01:13:31

they have seen Chinese versions of this.

01:13:34

They actually stopped

01:13:35

the sea container that had hundreds

01:13:37

of these units in it.

01:13:40

So so consider this, though,

01:13:41

Like these pipelines exist

01:13:43

and the business of the cartels

01:13:45

is not specific

01:13:46

to any particular product.

01:13:47

It's for illicit demand.

01:13:49

And they're going to meet it

01:13:50

with a supply.

01:13:51

And the Chinese bring in precursors,

01:13:52

whether they be for fentanyl

01:13:54

or for methamphetamines.

01:13:55

It doesn't make a difference.

01:13:56

The Chinese pipeline is already in there.

01:13:58

And if it turns out that

01:13:59

there's a market for guns,

01:14:00

then that's a market for guns.

01:14:01

They can bring precursors to anything.

01:14:03

They can knock off

01:14:04

all the technologies we have,

01:14:05

whether it be 3D mills and so on.

01:14:06

So this is a well-established thing.

01:14:08

Lest anybody

01:14:09

that this makes no sense,

01:14:10

of course

01:14:10

it makes sense

01:14:11

when you're in the business of providing

01:14:12

whatever the demand is,

01:14:14

you just create the supply.

01:14:15

The Chinese

01:14:16

have the supply of everything.

01:14:17

Here's the game plans.

01:14:18

The cartels from the top.

01:14:19

Go ahead, George. I'm sorry.

01:14:21

I just want to add something.

01:14:21

So, guys, this is what I'm buying.

01:14:23

Lance for a stocking stuffer.

01:14:25

Would you guys like one, too?

01:14:26

Because I'll get you one, too.

01:14:27

I'm going to.

01:14:28

Jolene, you're on the dark Web.

01:14:29

Three for one is a better deal

01:14:31

than just buying one at a time.

01:14:32

Yeah, Javelin, in case you need one.

01:14:33

You know, you don't

01:14:34

you don't want to need it

01:14:35

and not have it as all I'm thinking.

01:14:36

Yeah. One, two is one, one is non.

01:14:38

So give me. Although I'll do too.

01:14:40

I don't need to get graded,

01:14:41

I want to carry that around.

01:14:41

I said I'll get you one bro,

01:14:43

I'm got to get one for this.

01:14:44

Even three for.

01:14:45

I heard three was the pricing

01:14:46

was where you get the breakdown so.

01:14:47

Well what about he's right

01:14:49

now Steve

01:14:50

I know Steve wants one

01:14:51

but he doesn't want to say it on air.

01:14:52

A deal.

01:14:53

George thought

01:14:53

maybe you guys should get it for me

01:14:54

for Christmas.

01:14:55

I don't know

01:14:56

that you can offer me 12 for Media 12.

01:14:59

Here's a member of the cartel online.

01:15:03

Yeah, this is.

01:15:04

And this is my point.

01:15:05

And then we're going to go to

01:15:06

where this is leading to.

01:15:08

And then, Jorge, just give me a fast run

01:15:10

Media 13 and 14.

01:15:11

These are more weapons

01:15:12

that came directly off the Darkweb.

01:15:14

These are all been linked

01:15:15

back to the Afghanistan

01:15:17

cache of weapons

01:15:18

that was given to the Taliban

01:15:19

by our current administration.

01:15:22

Is interesting to note, too,

01:15:23

that Barack

01:15:24

Obama's administration was running guns

01:15:26

down to the cartels

01:15:27

from the side

01:15:27

and Obama,

01:15:28

I'm sorry,

01:15:29

than his his predecessor or sorry

01:15:31

his protege comes in afterwards

01:15:32

and decides to leave a bunch

01:15:33

more of them in in Afghanistan

01:15:36

so that the Chinese can reverse engineer

01:15:37

all of our night vision capabilities,

01:15:39

build up some of our weapon capabilities,

01:15:41

you know,

01:15:41

because these things got sold off

01:15:42

right away.

01:15:43

This they didn't

01:15:44

keep all the capabilities

01:15:45

that we had selling off our Blackhawks

01:15:47

or selling off our electronics.

01:15:49

Some of them more functional now not.

01:15:50

But if you think the Chinese couldn't

01:15:51

go through it

01:15:52

and get some value out of it,

01:15:53

like all those things are ITAR controlled

01:15:55

kind of, you know, too.

01:15:57

Did you know they actually left

01:15:59

our entire bag of battlefield

01:16:02

systems over there,

01:16:04

including the planes

01:16:05

and all the hardware? You know, they left

01:16:08

military encrypted radio sets.

01:16:10

I do with the encryption

01:16:11

encryption chips in them.

01:16:13

I did a bunch of stuff

01:16:14

that I gave to the Gateway panel

01:16:15

because I had somebody on the ground

01:16:16

that worked with MI6,

01:16:18

that was on the bridge

01:16:20

and he was on the ground over there.

01:16:22

What I think is interesting

01:16:23

is people don't realize the quality.

01:16:24

Now, here is a whole list Go member.

01:16:27

A lot of people think

01:16:28

the cartels aren't sophisticated.

01:16:29

Here he is wearing jammer.

01:16:31

That's a jammer.

01:16:32

So they're using it.

01:16:33

They're using it on their teams.

01:16:35

And I'm calling them teams

01:16:36

because look at the way that

01:16:37

that individuals equipped

01:16:38

and that's a cartel member.

01:16:39

Look at the guy behind police officer.

01:16:41

Yeah.

01:16:42

So those jammers are

01:16:44

they're sending them in so.

01:16:44

If they're going after another cartel,

01:16:46

they're jamming all their signals

01:16:47

so they can't call out

01:16:48

for reinforcements.

01:16:49

They're also using $35

01:16:53

copper line jammers

01:16:54

that they've armed in their vehicles.

01:16:56

So they're basically jamming

01:16:57

all the signals on their way in

01:16:59

when they're going to hit another cartel.

01:17:01

What's interesting is

01:17:02

the cartels are now that the intel I got

01:17:06

is that they are investing money

01:17:09

with politicians that are anti-gun

01:17:11

and they're long term

01:17:12

game planners hoping the gun

01:17:15

law restrictions

01:17:16

will be increased in the U.S.

01:17:18

They will continue to figure out ways

01:17:20

to not allow us to have our two way right

01:17:24

and they're going to optimize it

01:17:25

in a new financial vertical.

01:17:27

Their plan is to create blocks.

01:17:29

I've got a picture,

01:17:30

Glock, Sears, that were seized down there

01:17:32

that were manufactured by them.

01:17:34

We've seen within Sears

01:17:35

come out of China.

01:17:36

Now they're shipping them

01:17:37

rather than one unit.

01:17:38

They ship them in pieces,

01:17:39

which is very hard

01:17:40

to catch coming through the border.

01:17:42

But it's not only the Chinese.

01:17:43

Obviously,

01:17:44

the parts for guns are still

01:17:45

coming out of the US and China

01:17:46

and potentially South Africa.

01:17:48

It's not like the M16

01:17:49

weapons system hasn't been cloned

01:17:51

by many countries around the world.

01:17:53

It's been out for so long.

01:17:55

But now their plan is,

01:17:56

is to continue to support the politicians

01:17:59

that are anti-gun

01:18:01

in the hopes that they are

01:18:03

successful in stopping it,

01:18:04

because here's their new

01:18:05

income stream vertical.

01:18:06

They've got fentanyl,

01:18:08

carfentanil,

01:18:09

they've got all the other drugs,

01:18:10

you know,

01:18:10

obviously cocaine, methamphetamine.

01:18:13

They've got an amazing,

01:18:15

sophisticated coyote trafficking network.

01:18:18

And now their next vertical

01:18:19

they plan on going to

01:18:20

is actually reversing the of guns

01:18:22

and now reversing the flow

01:18:24

from south

01:18:24

to north

01:18:25

to arm the individuals

01:18:27

that still want guns

01:18:27

on the streets of the U.S.

01:18:29

Assuming that DC is successful

01:18:32

in restrictive gun laws,

01:18:33

how do you like that, Steve?

01:18:37

I don't like it at all, especially

01:18:39

for firearms.

01:18:40

Struck the FBI.

01:18:42

If anybody if you're following me

01:18:44

on social media, on social,

01:18:47

I've hit on these several times.

01:18:50

The fact that we have let in

01:18:51

and my assessment is

01:18:53

I believe this wholeheartedly,

01:18:55

that we we've let in

01:18:56

at least

01:18:57

20 million illegal aliens in the country.

01:19:00

These individuals, a majority of them,

01:19:03

I would say probably

01:19:04

two thirds or more are

01:19:07

military age men

01:19:09

who are going to come out

01:19:11

and they're going to find it,

01:19:12

trying to find a job.

01:19:13

And they're going to realize

01:19:14

that the American dream

01:19:16

isn't what they had dreamed it to be.

01:19:18

And they're going to turn

01:19:19

to a life of crime.

01:19:20

They're to join gangs.

01:19:22

They're going to go out on their own

01:19:23

and they're going

01:19:24

to need weapons to do that.

01:19:25

And they're going to need weapons cheap.

01:19:27

And the cartels

01:19:28

are going to supply

01:19:29

those weapons on the cheap.

01:19:31

And we're going to have

01:19:33

you think we have war zones

01:19:34

now in our cities.

01:19:36

Those war zones are going to break out,

01:19:37

start basically

01:19:39

working their way through the suburbs

01:19:41

where, you know,

01:19:42

you're on your way

01:19:43

to the convenience store

01:19:45

in a safe neighborhood

01:19:46

and a gang war

01:19:48

breaks out on the on the street corner

01:19:50

and saying to yourself,

01:19:52

how could this happen in America?

01:19:54

Well, because you sat on your hands

01:19:55

while 20 million people came

01:19:57

across the border illegally.

01:19:59

We don't know who they are.

01:20:00

We don't what they're about.

01:20:01

We don't know what their past is.

01:20:03

We don't know what diseases

01:20:05

they were carrying.

01:20:07

We needed that.

01:20:08

You know,

01:20:09

we've said this a thousand times

01:20:10

you needed to get a vaccine here.

01:20:13

But anybody could come across the border,

01:20:16

any disease that they were carrying.

01:20:18

Now in New York City,

01:20:20

letting them in the school district,

01:20:22

unvaccinated, Right.

01:20:24

No polio

01:20:25

based on Ben Bergman

01:20:26

and Michael Yon, syphilis, polio,

01:20:30

you know, emphysema is coming up.

01:20:33

I mean, 81 Ben Bergman showed me a bag

01:20:36

he has with 81 different countries IDs

01:20:40

because a lot of them

01:20:40

are throwing their ID away

01:20:41

and they're just giving the information

01:20:43

in any way they want.

01:20:44

81 different countries

01:20:45

invading our border.

01:20:47

And I agree with you,

01:20:47

the military age is an issue

01:20:49

Kyle,

01:20:49

Have you heard about

01:20:50

the transnational gangs

01:20:51

that are actually coming in in groups

01:20:54

to focus on

01:20:55

going into wealthy neighborhoods

01:20:57

to commit burglaries

01:20:58

that hit the news over

01:20:59

the last couple of days?

01:21:01

And these are actual international

01:21:03

these are transnational gangs,

01:21:04

and they're coming as an organized couple

01:21:07

coming over here, a couple over,

01:21:08

and they're reuniting

01:21:09

and they're going into areas in like

01:21:11

Detroit, Michigan,

01:21:12

or other affluent neighborhoods.

01:21:14

And they're specifically

01:21:15

targeting the affluent,

01:21:17

most of them Democrats.

01:21:18

I Guess you get what you vote for.

01:21:19

But Kyle,

01:21:20

have you heard about that, though?

01:21:21

I haven't heard that specifically,

01:21:22

but that's just one more step,

01:21:24

an escalation of what we've been seeing

01:21:25

for a very long time, particularly

01:21:27

when are living up in the,

01:21:28

you know, New England area.

01:21:30

You've got massive amounts of

01:21:31

when we say

01:21:31

transnational organized crimes,

01:21:33

we're talking about

01:21:34

gang syndicates,

01:21:35

whether it be MS13 or llama

01:21:36

or Latin kings, or take your pick.

01:21:38

Many of them are managed

01:21:39

outside the United States.

01:21:40

So that's kind of where

01:21:40

the transnational end of it comes in.

01:21:42

And they do what

01:21:43

organized crime has always done.

01:21:45

They set up affiliates wherever they go.

01:21:46

They have different names.

01:21:47

You're talking about MS13,

01:21:48

which I work a lot.

01:21:49

They call them cliques.

01:21:50

And the cliques go out there.

01:21:51

They have a bunch of

01:21:52

like kind of foot soldier type guys

01:21:53

and they have to live somewhere.

01:21:55

So we would see entire houses rented,

01:21:57

like really nice houses

01:21:58

in nice neighborhoods,

01:21:59

five, six, $700 in a neighborhood

01:22:06

up.

01:22:06

He froze up there.

01:22:07

But the nice part of whatever

01:22:09

that freeze up.

01:22:10

Yeah, you're good. You're back. Okay.

01:22:12

So you'd see some of these

01:22:14

these people living,

01:22:14

like right next door to the McMansions

01:22:16

where someone dropped $1.1 million.

01:22:18

They'd be living out a seventies

01:22:19

sort of rambler.

01:22:20

They'd have 25 families in them.

01:22:22

Some of them are sex slaves.

01:22:23

Some of them are.

01:22:23

They're just making an anchor baby.

01:22:25

Some of them are just living and working

01:22:27

from day to day.

01:22:28

And and some of them are out there

01:22:29

engaged in crime.

01:22:30

We found a top ten most wanted

01:22:32

Texas criminal.

01:22:33

He'd killed a federal informant

01:22:34

shot for the people in Texas,

01:22:36

ran out to Northern Virginia,

01:22:37

and we ended up catching him in a house

01:22:38

with 25 other people in there.

01:22:40

You know,

01:22:40

you've got basically

01:22:41

four families in there living.

01:22:42

And this is common.

01:22:43

So the idea that they would

01:22:44

start burglarizing

01:22:45

these neighborhoods

01:22:46

is totally within the range

01:22:47

of what you would expect

01:22:48

for these types of folks.

01:22:49

They're not doing things that are lawful.

01:22:51

So why would they, like,

01:22:52

inhibit themselves?

01:22:53

And the other thing they're seeing

01:22:54

is that when they keep pushing,

01:22:56

right,

01:22:56

they're not meeting

01:22:57

with forceful resistance.

01:22:59

They're not seeing the full bright,

01:23:00

you know, the might of the FBI

01:23:01

coming to absolutely dismantling

01:23:03

their clinic.

01:23:03

What they're seeing is

01:23:04

the FBI is going after people

01:23:06

that are 65 year old protesters

01:23:08

that happen to take a walk,

01:23:09

an unguided tour of the Capitol.

01:23:10

So they got free rein

01:23:11

because instead of having ten squads

01:23:14

handling these types of guys

01:23:15

and they are guys,

01:23:16

they are military age

01:23:17

males, like Steve just said,

01:23:18

you know, we've got three

01:23:20

or four squads

01:23:20

right now

01:23:21

in the Washington field office

01:23:22

in the nation's capital

01:23:23

that are running down Jay Sixers.

01:23:24

And they have one squad

01:23:26

that's running

01:23:26

after Matt 13 one that's five,

01:23:29

six agents that are doing it.

01:23:30

They run their asses off.

01:23:31

There's no other way around it.

01:23:32

And the people

01:23:33

that could be helping them out

01:23:34

are instead

01:23:35

like trying to figure out

01:23:35

if they can press

01:23:36

trespassing charges

01:23:37

and obstruction charges

01:23:39

on some old lady who's in Alaska.

01:23:40

It's like it's absurd on its face,

01:23:42

but that's what's going on.

01:23:44

And this is the time

01:23:45

that everybody needs to wake up.

01:23:46

This is the unification

01:23:47

and this is the education.

01:23:49

This is the exposing.

01:23:50

We have to make a difference.

01:23:52

And it comes down to us

01:23:53

because there is no white knight

01:23:54

on the horizon.

01:23:55

I want to give both of you guys

01:23:56

an opportunity.

01:23:57

Kyle, where can they find you?

01:23:59

I know you've got a great show

01:24:00

going on, highly successful,

01:24:02

very popular already.

01:24:03

Tell us where they can find you

01:24:04

on social media.

01:24:05

And then, Steve, I'm

01:24:05

going to have you do the same thing.

01:24:06

Where can they find you? Follow you.

01:24:08

You guys put out

01:24:09

lots of great information.

01:24:10

I think you're both well,

01:24:11

the follow

01:24:12

to the big mag subscribers

01:24:14

and all our listeners on all our channels

01:24:17

follow these guys,

01:24:18

support them, get the message out.

01:24:20

That's how we're going do this.

01:24:21

We have to keep pushing the information.

01:24:23

Kyle, Go.

01:24:25

So if you want to find me on X and on

01:24:28

True social, that's kind of my big to

01:24:29

as far as the social media platforms,

01:24:31

I'm always the same.

01:24:31

It's at Kyle Serafin.

01:24:33

My last name is C.R.A.

01:24:36

and it's a lot like the angel,

01:24:37

but with an end on the end of it,

01:24:39

that's a

01:24:39

a grandfather for you

01:24:40

who came in from Canada, if you will.

01:24:41

He was a possibly illegal immigrant

01:24:43

at that time, but nobody cared.

01:24:45

Nobody cared. There was no safety net.

01:24:46

If you want to find me

01:24:47

and my ramble show, which we do on at

01:24:49

930 Eastern time, five days a week,

01:24:52

we do that on rumble

01:24:53

dot com slash Kyle Serafin.

01:24:55

So that's pretty easy to find as well.

01:24:56

And you can go back and look and find

01:24:57

it did a great podcast with Steve.

01:24:59

He's been on there at least twice

01:25:01

three times.

01:25:01

He's always got good information there

01:25:03

and he's gotten a lot of chance

01:25:04

to kind of share his backstory

01:25:05

and who he was.

01:25:06

So if you got some curiosity,

01:25:07

you can dig into our archives

01:25:08

and find some. Steve Great. You.

01:25:11

Steve where can they find you?

01:25:13

Tell us.

01:25:13

So on X you can find me at Steve Gray

01:25:17

and J for it's CBT, a Y, and J for

01:25:22

and on truth social

01:25:23

you can get me adjusted at Steve Gray.

01:25:26

I'm sorry

01:25:27

I've kind of drifted away from getter

01:25:30

is a great platform

01:25:32

but I for some reason

01:25:34

I just kind of drifted away from it.

01:25:36

You can still get me there at Steve Gray

01:25:39

and J for as well.

01:25:41

I don't have a podcast.

01:25:43

I you can look up I've done over 64

01:25:45

television interviews.

01:25:47

You can look at me,

01:25:48

look me up on Rumble

01:25:49

and check out those old, old interviews

01:25:52

of me talking about the problems

01:25:54

within the FBI

01:25:54

and what we need to address them.

01:25:56

And yeah, and if you do,

01:25:59

if you haven't heard Kyle show,

01:26:01

he's got a great show.

01:26:02

And I urge people

01:26:05

to not only tune in to the big, big

01:26:06

but also the Kyle Show as well.

01:26:08

I really appreciate it.

01:26:09

I want to say thank you, Kyle,

01:26:11

for joining us

01:26:12

and giving us as much time as you did.

01:26:13

And thank you, Steve.

01:26:14

I appreciate you coming out

01:26:15

of semi-retirement,

01:26:17

of doing shows and coming on air.

01:26:19

You guys are always interesting.

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I'm compelling everybody

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I'm just telling you it be well worth it.

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