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Welcome back to The Big Mig
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I'm your host, Lance Migliaccio
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George Balloutine, back in the saddle.
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After a long weekend
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of slaving away George, what's going on?
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Brother? George is fucking tired.
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That's what is going on. Really tired.
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I'm fighting here, folks. I'm fighting.
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But I got my friends coming on.
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I got to fight for them, too.
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These guys, you better
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bring your A-game for these guys.
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You're going to need it.
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he's got my A-game, bro.
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Well, you know, I know you do,
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but you are a hard working guy.
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You did some investigative stuff
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over the weekend for us, too,
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which is pretty interesting.
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Let's revisit this story.
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So here we are back here,
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tip of the spear.
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If liberty means anything at all,
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it means the right to tell people
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what they do not want to hear.
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And today, we're going
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to do a lot of that.
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There's so much stuff going on in DC.
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We were just having a discussion
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backstage in the green room
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about accountability and how sometimes
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there's so many of us that are fighting
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to get the truth out
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there, that are fighting
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to educate people,
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that are fighting to unify the populace.
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And when we come out
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and we expose the truth.
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Great investigative
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journalists, fighters,
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whistle whistleblowers and everyone else.
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Sometimes it gets to be a little much
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because you're hoping something's
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going to happen.
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You're hoping that
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here comes the cavalry.
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And as we've gone further along
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and we see the corruption in DC,
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we see the corruption of the FBI,
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the DOJ, Border Patrol,
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they ought to be called the welcome wagon
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at this point
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because they sure as hell
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aren't protecting our border.
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And, you know, we know this
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is coming from the top down.
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And I in no way
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am I trying to indicate that this is just
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Joe Biden's administration.
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Yeah, the Democrats shock.
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But I have to be honest with you,
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I think the Republicans
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not nearly as much.
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It's a unit party.
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They don't care about America.
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They don't care about the people.
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And the people means you.
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I, our kids, our grandkids,
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our mothers, fathers, grandparents.
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That's why we have to be the ones
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to make a difference.
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We have to unify the country,
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forget about religion, forget about race,
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forget about politics.
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And we have to work together
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to take the country back
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from these lowlife policies.
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And I got to tell you,
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I want to sit here
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and just use my Bronx
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for letter vocabulary.
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George and I are actually trying
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to do a better job of cursing less,
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although I don't know how
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well it's going.
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Hi, George.
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How do you feel about that?
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It's not going do well, is it?
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Well, I'm tired of, you know,
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I can't account for my actions right now.
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So if something slips out to ever bad.
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Yeah, well, it comes out.
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You know,
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the problem is
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the F-bomb for me
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is an adjective, an adverb, a pronoun.
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Let's put it this way.
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We want to be comfortable.
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We want our word,
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our guests to be comfortable.
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And you're going to find out
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because we have
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one of them is Steve Gray.
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You know,
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he always goes professional suit
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and tie guy on on
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when he's on Fox
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and all the other liberal shows tonight.
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He ain't.
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You know why?
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Because he ain't with the FBI.
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Because they suck. Plain and simple.
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He left, he retired.
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He did the smart thing
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because they don't want to do nothing
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for anybody anyway.
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So he's going to relax
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and have a good time.
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Definitely not in a suit and tie.
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Can't wait.
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Well, here's the thing.
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We've got two
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what I would call
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two experts,
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two patriots,
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two guys that believe in America first.
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They both made life decisions
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because they weren't
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willing to compromise their ethics,
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their morals, their integrity,
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their joining us tonight, it's
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Kyle Serafin and Steve Gray.
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Listen,
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throw up the thumbnail real quick
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just to give him a tone of where
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we're going with this tonight.
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George brought media zero to him
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just like that.
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And Lance, here we go.
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Well, hey,
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you know, you usually Johnny on the spot.
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I got to tell you, you're looking Guys,
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look, look.
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First
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look at the eyes
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as fierce pain in the mud
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as they want to hurt somebody.
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Well, here we are.
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We got to talk about Bowman.
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We're going to talk about the cartels
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and their new their new project of gun
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manufacturing that
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they want to bring here into the U.S..
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Listen, let's talk about Kyle
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Serafin first.
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You know, he's a federal
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whistleblower, former
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FBI special agent, U.S.
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Air Force
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veteran, combat dive and Para Rescue.
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He worked for Mexico, U.S.
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Air with the U.S.
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Air Force Para rescue.
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And paramedics
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went to the FBI Academy at Quantico.
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So I was assigned to Washington
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field office.
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And 16
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he's worked
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counterintelligence investigations.
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And let me say this.
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This guy has attempted
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to expose the underbelly of the FBI over
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and over and over again.
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He's been on
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Fox News, Newsmax
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first Network, Real America's Voice,
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Salem Media.
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He's a regular guest with Dan Bongino.
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I mean, all this just goes on and on
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and on.
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He's been interviewed
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by Tucker Carlson and Sebastian Gorka,
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you know, but he's one to see this.
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If you know Kyle, he's
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a very religious guy.
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He's very family driven, great parent.
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You can tell in
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just the posts that he puts up.
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Got a great sense of humor.
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All I can say
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is that he is a well-known person
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in the community and very trusted.
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And I trust him and I call him a friend.
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So he's going to be joining us.
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And then we've got Steve Gray.
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And here's a guy
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who's really highly accomplished.
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He was New York City FBI
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agent and supervisor,
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had 32 years
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of law enforcement experience,
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knowledgeable,
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you know,
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travel team security professional.
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You know,
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he's a he's
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got a love and passion for sports.
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He's a team player.
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You know,
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he's been an established manager
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in risk management.
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He's refined his skills
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working as an FBI agent.
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You know, at Newark, New Jersey.
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He's worked the Super Bowl, World
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Series, PGA, U.S. Open.
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I mean, this guy is in high demand.
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He's very knowledgeable.
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Again, another
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whistleblower that has tried
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to bring the truth
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out over and over again,
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hoping that somebody
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would bring the accountability
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that's necessary in D.C..
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And tonight, we're putting Representative
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Democrat Jamaal Bowman on the hot seat.
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And everybody that doesn't know
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this story,
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we're going to give you
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a little background,
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but I'm sure most
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everybody has heard the story
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so far, George.
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I mean.
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Bowman
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Throw out media one
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so we can take a look at him, would you?
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I'm surprised he's not in jail.
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Well, we would be
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like I would be in jail.
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George would be in jail?
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Yeah.
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Unfortunately, you know,
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that's what they would do.
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There's no hesitation.
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Probably call the corrupt FBI agents.
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Come lock us up.
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Yeah,
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well, actually,
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they start with the Capitol Police.
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Then they'd probably get us
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for being domestic terrorists.
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Yeah, Kind of
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like what they did with the J
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six defendants.
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No, no. White domestic terrorists.
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You got that right? Yeah.
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Media one, I think.
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I mean, you want to.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry I didn't catch. Okay.
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All right, so that's Bowman.
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So the whole story goes.
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Let's bring on Steve
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Gray and Kyle Serafin.
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What we're going to these are experts
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that's what we do here at the big mag.
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We know we are not the experts. Kyle,
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thank you so much for joining us.
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How are you, man? I'm great.
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You want to hear a little funny story
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about when I first saw Steve Gray
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because we didn't work
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together, obviously, right?
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I saw him on our mutual friend
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Sebastian Gorka show.
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He was doing interviews
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running for governor
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or running for Congress, rather.
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And I'm seeing him out there
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talking about some of the issues
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going on in the bureau.
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And I was already on unpaid suspension
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in my house in New Mexico,
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which I had to sell.
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And so I'm watching him on the screen.
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It was the only time I've ever had
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a TV screen in my bedroom.
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So my wife and I were sitting in bed
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looking out there like,
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get ready to shut down the night.
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And I'm watching this guy.
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Come on. I go, this FBI agent coming on.
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I better watch this thing up.
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And Steve is every bit
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he's every bit the patriot you described.
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But even more, he's.
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He's more chill
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when he doesn't have a suit on.
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I like catching him on cuff me.
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Do you dress him down a little bit?
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He takes a little bit that edge off
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and you get a little bit of that
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real like New York agent flavor,
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which is what I like to see, too.
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So I can
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I can attest to that
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because I've definitely
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met him in person.
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He was just wearing jeans, t shirt.
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I got the pictures to prove it.
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Steve He's got the biceps to prove it.
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You, when he's outside the suit,
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you could see the the gun show
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that just tells you about this guy,
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that just shows you about his character
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because you like
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he was when he was an FBI agent.
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He was trying to represent himself
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and the agency as best as he could.
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You know.
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So props to Steve on a percent.
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Stevie Gray,
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you know,
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I know you haven't been doing
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a lot of interviews lately,
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and I just want to thank you
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for coming on the show.
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We wanted Jon for a long time.
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We supported you
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when you were making your run, run
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for your congressional run,
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and we'd support you again.
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We'd love to see you do it.
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We love to see in there.
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We'd love to have somebody on the ground
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that we knew
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was trustworthy
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and honest and had integrity.
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So what's been going on?
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How you been doing?
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I'm doing great.
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I want to thank you and George
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for having me on.
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Kyle, for coming all with me.
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I appreciate it.
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Thanks for the kind words.
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No, I have not done interviews.
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My last interview was April.
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And the reason is, is
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because I'm going on
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these major news networks
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and I'm talking about problems
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within the FBI, what needs to be done.
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And nobody was listening.
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I never got a call from a congressman.
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I never got a call from
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a state representative,
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a senator, anybody in the business?
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Nobody.
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Nobody wanted to
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find out
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exactly how we were going
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to clean up the FBI.
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We had a lot of good people out there
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that want to do this,
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but there's nobody coming forward
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with the power
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to make the changes happen.
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And if nobody's going to, nobody's
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reaching out to me,
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then I felt like I wasn't as effective
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as I could be.
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So I stepped away and I took a job
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and went back to work
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and tried to make some money.
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Yeah, well,
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we all have to do that, that's for sure.
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And absolutely for our listeners,
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the big, big mafia
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they like to call themselves
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and our subscribers.
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We we all have to make money.
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And the truth is, a lot of times
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this is a thankless position
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that we're in fighting for the country
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because there are so many people
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that are still brainwashed.
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We see it on social media.
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I saw a bunch of it on EX today,
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as I'm sure Kyle did,
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because I saw him in
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and out of there today.
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George On all the platforms.
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Yeah, it's the worse.
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We're looking for stories,
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we're doing investigations
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and we're interacting
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so everybody knows that
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this is not always the easiest thing
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to come here every day
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and put a game face on.
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Because we all love the country.
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We all, regardless of whatever
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our backgrounds are In the past,
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we all came to this epiphany moment
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when we decided
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that we couldn't continue
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to go along with it
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and we couldn't continue
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to sit on the sidelines.
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You know,
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I was never a politically driven guy.
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In my early years,
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I had a completely different
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perspective on the world
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and a lot of things changed.
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My daughter, God,
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lots of things came into my life
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that made a difference.
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Here I am
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now trying to make a difference,
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and it is frustrating at times
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because we're all fighting for it.
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We see somebody like Bowman
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who clearly broke the law.
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Clearly they use
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the same criminal charges.
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And we're going to get into this
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right now
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that the same crime that he committed
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is what people in the J six,
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you know, of said correction
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are in jail for right at this moment.
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You know,
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he said he mistakenly
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triggered a fire alarm
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in this congressional office
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building Saturday
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as they were preparing to vote.
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Now
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his big play is that
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he did it mistakenly.
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Now
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a lot of people said, did he do it?
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Is he guilty?
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I heard that going on.
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And meanwhile,
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as you guys have seen,
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there were pictures everywhere
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showing that he did it clearly.
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It's clearly accidental, obviously.
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Well, clearly accidental,
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although we've seen some evidence
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come out now
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that looks like he was quite agitated.
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So you guys today
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on purpose is what I got it.
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I just got
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I mean, Kyle, tell me your thoughts.
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How do you feel about him so far
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and how he's handling the situation?
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I think that there's
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this kind of fun little breakdown.
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My buddy Dan Bongino
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talks about the danger in this country
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are what he calls
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the stupid smart people.
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And and it's possible
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your audience are familiar
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with this idea.
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The stupid smart people
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are the educated people
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that have no common sense.
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Right.
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And a lot of them
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make up the Democrat Party.
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And I've kind of come up with a corollary
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to the stupid smart people.
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And that's the smart, stupid people.
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The smart, stupid people seem to be
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the entirety of the squad
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and anybody that's
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operating on that level.
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So these are the people that have decided
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that even though they are complete
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morons in real life
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and the things they say are absurd
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and stupid,
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they have the ability
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to turn public opinion
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and manipulate
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people's senses
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and they have learned
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how to play on this.
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The stupid smart people.
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And so
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the smart, stupid people
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are really dangerous
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because they're the ones out there
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running the show.
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They have lower intellectual capacity,
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they have a lower horsepower,
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but they got better transmission.
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They're getting action on the ground.
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They're actually
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getting things moving forward
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and they're getting people
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that should know better
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to do things and agree with them.
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And to that point.
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BOWMAN actually put
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out talking points
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for his Democratic colleagues
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and said, you need to come to my defense.
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And if there's one thing
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that we can probably agree on
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and there is definitely a swampy
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sort of unit party experience
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that we've all kind of seen,
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there's something very interesting
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about the way you can look
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at the difference
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between the Republicans.
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The Democrats are me, and I'm
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neither I'm a I'm an independent
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that's very conservative.
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That's kind of my world, right?
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I cannot get excited
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about a political party.
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It grosses me out.
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But what I do
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see is
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this The Republicans are the party
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that wants to lose more slowly,
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and that is the nature
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maybe of being a conservative,
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that you are conserving,
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you are defending at all times.
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You're always on defense
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and you're always losing
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a little bit of ground.
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But man,
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you got to give
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at least the respect
00:14:13
to the smart, stupid people,
00:14:15
the ones running the Democrat Party,
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because what they do is they win.
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They are progressive on all fronts.
00:14:20
Whether it makes sense or not.
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We need to protect all black lives.
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But we're also really
00:14:24
into killing black babies
00:14:25
because we're pro-abortion.
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Like, that sort of statement
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is completely illogical.
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I would I would wake up with a migraine.
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I can't do that, that
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you have to be kind
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of little bit stupid
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to be able to handle that.
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But they are always
00:14:34
attacking on all fronts.
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It doesn't matter whether it's guns,
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whether it's a messaging campaign,
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whether it's all the other
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kind of progressive agenda they have.
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And they don't have to be aligned.
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They're just
00:14:42
they're closing in on territory
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from all sides.
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And if they get a little bit
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of circular firing squad,
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they don't care.
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And so they're going to defend
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this guy 100%.
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That's what it looks like.
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And now
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I'm going to go to Steve
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next here in a minute.
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But I agree with you.
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I think
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I think that they are
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much more organized.
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The narratives
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and these fomented plots
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that they've created
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come with instruction manuals
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where the Republicans
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I feel like so often
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I feel like they're late to the game
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and they're winging it.
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Let's face it, if you take the organized
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the organized social media influencers,
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the groups they're paying,
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they actually have a war room
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at the White House
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where they're provided
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instruction manuals
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for the upcoming narratives.
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Those are also disseminated
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through email and text message
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as something comes up.
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So if you're dealing with a Brooklyn
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dad or a Jojo from Jersey
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or the Crabs
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Weinstein Brothers
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or Harry Sison,
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and you're dealing with those groups,
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they're organized
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because they've got a funnel
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narrative already created.
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It's provided by the government.
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Steve, give me your thoughts on that.
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No, I agree on a percent.
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And to Kyle's point,
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listen, I worked bang
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for five years
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and I specialize in conflict scams.
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These are the individuals
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that were stealing the life
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savings of elderly people
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across the United States.
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And I can't distinguish
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between those individuals
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that I was chasing down for the scams
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and those individuals
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that are running the squad
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at this point right now.
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That's exactly where we're at.
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And I feel that, you know,
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I think that I really believe
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that he should be charged under
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I think it's five 1505,
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which is basically
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obstructing Congress
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because, look,
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they did it to our January six protest.
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What a lot of your readers
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don't understand
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or may not know about me
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is that I had a very
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I had an awesome FBI career.
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I could have worked another seven
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or eight years and continued on.
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But the way that they were treating
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the January six protesters
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and the way the FBI was running out
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arresting them,
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they understand
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I was the coordinator,
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the arrest coordinator.
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So these arrests
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would come across my desk.
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We were sending out
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ten man FBI teams armed to the teeth
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to basically break
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in the door of elderly individuals
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60, 70, 75, 80 years old.
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That just happened to be standing
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on the steps of the Capitol.
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And they were arresting
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these individuals,
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then bringing them back to my office
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where they were processing them.
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These poor individuals had a clue
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what was going on.
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And basically what we have
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here is the Justice Department
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and the FBI and the Biden administration
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was trying
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to make an example out of them.
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Well, now now it's our turn.
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And Boeing needs to be made
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an example of what he did was wrong.
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He interrupted
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the congressional proceedings
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and there's just no way.
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And I set it out on Twitter.
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Let's take the polygraph
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and see what he has to say about it.
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I saw that, but I saw that fire alarm.
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It clearly marked fire frost.
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It says alarm.
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And it's his brother says, ready yet?
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You mean it didn't
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it didn't say door switch.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's exactly right.
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Well,
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you got to believe the guy
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you need to man up
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and he needs to come forward
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and say, Yeah, I did this,
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I'll take the consequences.
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What is going on, how they operate,
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what are the consequences?
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In Washington, DC,
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he goes to trial
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in front of a Democratic jury
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and they let him off the hook
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because that's the way it goes
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these days.
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You know,
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if you have these cities New York,
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Chicago, Washington, D.C.,
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and you have a Democrat,
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especially a politician
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who is on the hot seat or on trial
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and you get the jury seated nine times
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out of ten,
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they're going to let
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this guy off the hook
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just because he's a Democrat.
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Well, you know,
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there is a criminal statute
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for pulling a fire alarm, number one.
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And if somebody's going to be a criminal,
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even at 1505,
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there's actual federal statute.
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And let's let me say this.
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Everything in DC is a federal zone,
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so everything is a federal crime.
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This isn't a state level crime.
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Even on the fire alarm,
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when you go into a federal zone
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like the Capitol building
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where they own the property,
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it's 100% everything in there's federal.
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So at this point,
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even pulling the fire alarm
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that stands outside of 1505
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1505 is the
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is kind of an extension of that.
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But I believe there's multiple crimes
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because I start to look at
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what he violated as far as the guidelines
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are for senators and congressmen
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and his behavior.
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There's a whole set of laws behind that.
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Additionally, you know in a statement,
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let me read this, George,
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and then you can throw at me, too,
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and then I'm going to let you comment
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because I want to hear
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what you have to say
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because I know you're
00:19:13
chomping at the bit.
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He admitted to pulling the fire alarm,
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which he said he regretted,
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but he disputed that he did.
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So to delay the vote,
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as many Republicans inserted,
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he was about
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they were about to vote
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on this bipartisan bill
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to keep the government open
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for another 45 days and avoid a shutdown.
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It sounds like it wasn't going
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the way he wanted it to go.
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And we're going to see some behavior
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put out media to George
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because this is his actual
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official statement.
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They came off his website
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and he goes on here.
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I want
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to personally clear up confusion
00:19:43
surrounding today's events today.
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As I was running rushing to make a vote,
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I came to a door
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that is usually open for votes,
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but today would not open.
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I am embarrassed
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to admit
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that I activated the alarm
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mistakenly thinking
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it would open the door.
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I regret this
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and sincerely apologize for any confusion
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it caused.
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It goes blah blah blah.
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But I want to be very clear
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that I wasn't trying
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to interrupt the vote.
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You know, George, your thoughts on this.
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To me, it's just
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I don't see what she did.
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TIME When you're asked
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what you made a mistake,
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whether he was trying to interrupt
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a vote or not is is regardless
00:20:18
because you pulled the damn alarm.
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So. Right.
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There's a
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that's a criminal colonel activity
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right there. So he should be charged.
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I think you were telling me
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earlier, Lance,
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he was a teacher at a school for so long.
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Yeah, I think that's the smoking
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gun information here.
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Clearly, he
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he was only isn't sure
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he was a principal.
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So clearly he understood the school.
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Yeah, he understands
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emergency services like fire alarms.
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And one of those kids were fucked up
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during that time when he was principal.
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It was always going to come out that way.
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Look, the guy
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you know, he has
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he has a
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he's got a bachelor's
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degree, he's got a master's degree,
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and he's got a doctorate of education.
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He's the doctorate.
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That's where the Joe Biden is.
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And then he spent nine years
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running a school in the Bronx.
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So you're telling me
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this guy has never conducted
00:21:01
a fire drill?
00:21:01
Look at my tweet from this
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from this Sunday as we left church,
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my six year old had a choice
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because I'm hearing the baby thing.
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We've got a five week old right now.
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So I'm carrying one of those
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enormous car seats that you unstrap
00:21:13
and it's got like a bassinet thing.
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So I'm carrying that.
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So I got, you know, less free hands.
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I can open the door.
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But you
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my kid is really excited about it
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because she's six
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and she wants to be a big helper.
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And she walked up
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and on the left hand side is a red box
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that has a piece of glass on it.
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There's a fire extinguisher
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right next to it,
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and that is one option to open the door.
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Or she could push the button
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that everyone pushes right
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next to the door.
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That's got a handicapped symbol on it.
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It says open door on it.
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It's all in blue and silver.
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And it's a square that everyone's
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seen at every mall, everywhere.
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It's got the universal access thing.
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And guess what?
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She knows what to push,
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and so does my four year old.
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So you're telling me
00:21:43
that a grown man who's 47 years old
00:21:44
with advanced degrees
00:21:46
doesn't know how to handle that?
00:21:47
It's absurd.
00:21:48
I actually sent you guys over the
00:21:50
his talking points that just leaked.
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Politico just took us out
00:21:53
a couple of minutes ago.
00:21:53
I saw it just before we went on air
00:21:55
and they leaked the talking points
00:21:56
that he sent around
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to his Democrat colleagues.
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And they're pretty telling.
00:22:00
It says that you send that to my email.
00:22:03
I sent it over to your signal.
00:22:04
So it just says messaging guidance.
00:22:06
It says how you can support Jamaal Bowman
00:22:08
after the accidental fire alarm.
00:22:10
And if you got any problems,
00:22:11
reach out to him on his staff
00:22:12
and she'll help you out.
00:22:13
And what you can do is
00:22:14
you can point out
00:22:14
the extreme MAGA Republicans
00:22:16
and you can make sure
00:22:17
that you make reference to the nasty side
00:22:19
of the Republican Party.
00:22:20
He's since had to walk these back
00:22:21
even in the last couple of hours
00:22:23
because he looks like a fool
00:22:24
using the word Nazi
00:22:25
on this kind of stuff.
00:22:26
So it's just
00:22:27
it's telling when you got to go out there
00:22:29
and do a messaging campaign
00:22:30
because you're a moron
00:22:31
and you pushed the button,
00:22:32
you thought you were going
00:22:33
to get some reaction,
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you obviously didn't.
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And you could charge
00:22:35
one of the same statutes
00:22:36
that you've seen.
00:22:37
These Gen-Xers,
00:22:37
a lot of these guys on gay
00:22:38
sex are getting the same
00:22:39
criminal complaint as under 18, USC 1512.
00:22:42
It's not the 55 they're getting the 1512,
00:22:45
and it's subsection C two,
00:22:46
which just as corruptly obstructs
00:22:48
that proceeding
00:22:48
and it's punishable by 20 years.
00:22:50
This is the stuff that guys from
00:22:51
the Proud Boys are sitting in jail for.
00:22:52
So no violence required, no intent
00:22:54
required on that statute.
00:22:56
It just means that you did this thing
00:22:58
and, you know,
00:22:58
you went out there and you obstructed or,
00:23:01
you know,
00:23:01
there's even a little bit more language.
00:23:02
Do it
00:23:03
obstructs influence
00:23:04
or impedes an official proceeding,
00:23:05
impedes doesn't mean
00:23:06
that you intend to do.
00:23:07
It just means that you did a thing,
00:23:09
you impeded the proceeding
00:23:10
and pulling a fire alarm
00:23:11
and getting people to evacuate
00:23:12
certainly isn't impeachment.
00:23:13
Now, should we be in a world where
00:23:15
either one of those things
00:23:16
are being pushed on proud boys
00:23:18
who are walking around
00:23:19
or parading the Capitol or this guy?
00:23:20
No, but if it's good for the goose,
00:23:22
might as well be good for the gander.
00:23:23
Let's go.
00:23:23
Let's push it down the line.
00:23:25
So, yeah, I agree.
00:23:26
You're the link for that.
00:23:27
If we can get that on
00:23:28
and a
00:23:28
legitimate issue with it, are we,
00:23:30
are we to believe that
00:23:31
this dude didn't know to pull
00:23:33
that if you pull
00:23:34
that what's going to happen
00:23:34
Look at that big oval door.
00:23:36
I mean it could.
00:23:38
Yeah Well, George,
00:23:40
do you have media to air that video?
00:23:42
I think that's pretty, pretty telling.
00:23:44
Also.
00:23:45
And then MTG did a good job
00:23:47
and she actually show ready.
00:23:49
Yeah, go ahead, do something.
00:23:51
I would say that
00:23:51
that would require
00:23:52
a lot of those announcements.
00:23:55
You know,
00:23:55
I don't know why
00:23:55
this has gotten so much attention.
00:23:57
I was literally just in a rush
00:23:58
to go vote, man. That's all it was.
00:24:01
Are you afraid of any repercussions
00:24:02
either from leadership
00:24:03
or from legal, even conflict?
00:24:04
I mean, listen,
00:24:05
I take responsibility
00:24:06
for what I did, you know,
00:24:07
But like I said,
00:24:08
I was in a rush to go vote.
00:24:09
And, you know, investigation
00:24:11
will sort everything out.
00:24:13
So have you talked to Jeffries about it?
00:24:15
yeah, of course. That stayed on the map.
00:24:17
How was that conversation?
00:24:18
I got to keep that between me
00:24:19
and the leaders.
00:24:20
I'm not going to say that publicly.
00:24:21
Yeah, we've been in
00:24:22
touch with each other.
00:24:27
Well, that's.
00:24:27
That's his position.
00:24:29
George is going
00:24:29
to bring his camera back up.
00:24:31
He's doing a reset.
00:24:32
That's his position on it.
00:24:34
And we're going to do the follow up
00:24:35
for this.
00:24:35
And then, Steve, I'm
00:24:36
going to have you comment.
00:24:38
MTG actually went to the exact door
00:24:41
that Jamal had
00:24:43
decided that the fire alarm was
00:24:45
was the right choice
00:24:47
versus the silver handicap.
00:24:49
And I don't know
00:24:50
if it had a silver handicap,
00:24:51
but I'm thinking of Kyle's daughter.
00:24:53
We were laughing about it online.
00:24:54
I teased him
00:24:55
that she was ready to get into Mensa.
00:24:57
He said, No, we only go with
00:25:00
people. 93.
00:25:01
Yeah, that's it.
00:25:04
So.
00:25:04
Well, George,
00:25:05
if you get a chance media
00:25:07
to be when you get a chance.
00:25:08
I got that up right now.
00:25:10
So here's the thing.
00:25:12
Here's Reggie walking you through
00:25:13
how everybody goes to vote.
00:25:15
There we go.
00:25:16
She said, Everybody knows about it.
00:25:17
So here we go.
00:25:18
This is pretty interesting, everyone.
00:25:19
We were at the infamous door
00:25:21
where Jamal Bowman claims
00:25:23
he had to pull fire alarm to get out.
00:25:25
Now these doors are open on weekdays.
00:25:28
Every member of Congress knows that.
00:25:30
Everybody that works here knows that.
00:25:31
But on Saturdays and Sundays,
00:25:34
they are locked
00:25:34
and only certain doors
00:25:36
are open on Saturdays and Sundays.
00:25:38
Now, come on over here.
00:25:40
This right here is a fire alarm.
00:25:42
No. Where does it say?
00:25:45
Pull the fire alarm
00:25:46
to open the exit door?
00:25:49
It doesn't say that.
00:25:50
And I think it's middle
00:25:51
school principals know better.
00:25:53
Let me show you how we go
00:25:54
when we need to go vote.
00:25:56
I know this because my office is in here
00:25:59
and Keenan building the other side.
00:26:17
look, there's stairs,
00:26:32
by the way.
00:26:33
We had to use the stairs
00:26:34
to evacuate the Cannon Building
00:26:37
after Jamaal Bowman
00:26:38
pulled the fire alarm.
00:26:47
Yeah.
00:26:48
Here's where you have an option.
00:26:50
As members of Congress
00:26:52
continue to go down the stairs.
00:26:53
This way
00:26:57
and you can go in the basement
00:26:59
and we can walk in the tunnel
00:27:01
that goes under the road to the Capitol.
00:27:03
We do that all the time,
00:27:04
especially if the weather's bad
00:27:06
or you can come around this way,
00:27:14
See where that says Action
00:27:16
in action is out on the New Jersey.
00:27:20
This one is open
00:27:22
all the time, not just some of the time.
00:27:25
All the time.
00:27:26
So let's explain very clearly again,
00:27:28
Jamaal Bowman didn't pull the fire alarm
00:27:31
to try to get out of the building
00:27:33
because he had to rush to go vote.
00:27:35
I know that for a fact
00:27:36
because I also work
00:27:37
in the Cannon Office Building
00:27:39
and I watched Katherine Clarke,
00:27:41
the Democrat whip,
00:27:43
make a motion to adjourn.
00:27:45
And then within minutes, Jamaal Bowman
00:27:48
pulled the fire alarm
00:27:49
and he knew
00:27:49
he was pulling a fire alarm
00:27:51
because he's a former
00:27:52
middle school principal.
00:27:53
And then he ran out of the building
00:27:55
and didn't tell anybody he did that.
00:27:58
And this building was evacuated
00:28:00
for over an hour
00:28:02
and Congress had to hold the vote open.
00:28:04
That's usually only 15 minutes
00:28:05
on the first night.
00:28:07
They held it open
00:28:07
for over an hour as well.
00:28:10
There's some serious problems
00:28:11
for Jamaal Bowman
00:28:12
and he needs to be prosecuted
00:28:14
for violating the same federal law
00:28:17
that they are prosecuting.
00:28:18
January six defendants
00:28:20
and President Trump.
00:28:23
So
00:28:24
what? George is resetting his camera.
00:28:26
Steve Okay,
00:28:27
so you guys have both investigated
00:28:30
many criminals, many crimes so far.
00:28:33
How's the evidence
00:28:34
looking on the case against Bowman
00:28:36
being innocent?
00:28:38
It's look, he's guilty isn't a felony.
00:28:41
You can't this
00:28:42
you can there's no way
00:28:44
any reasonable person
00:28:46
can look at that fire alarm
00:28:48
and think that it was there
00:28:50
to open up the door.
00:28:51
It's just not. It's not.
00:28:53
It's not.
00:28:54
It's.
00:28:54
It's lying through.
00:28:55
Steve,
00:28:56
Here's the what's worse, though, Lance,
00:28:57
but a lot of people are looking at is,
00:28:59
is that, you know,
00:29:01
people could have died for this of that.
00:29:03
Right.
00:29:04
People could have heard that a fire
00:29:05
alarm not knowing what was going on.
00:29:07
They could have had a heart attack.
00:29:08
Right.
00:29:09
They could have tripped and
00:29:10
fell and broke bones
00:29:13
trying
00:29:13
to get out of the Capitol,
00:29:14
not knowing what's going on.
00:29:16
There's a lot of things
00:29:17
that could transpire
00:29:18
with him pulling that alarm.
00:29:20
And when you look at that alarm
00:29:23
and you see it
00:29:24
and you see it clear as day, it says fire
00:29:27
was there, there's
00:29:28
no way in the world
00:29:30
that you can distinguish
00:29:31
that that was not a fire.
00:29:33
He's lying through his teeth.
00:29:35
Yeah, I think that thumbs down
00:29:36
was not for you, Steve.
00:29:37
Before I did George's camera
00:29:39
that he's having an issue with.
00:29:40
But yeah, I agree with you.
00:29:42
I think it's so obvious sometimes.
00:29:45
And when I think a DC anymore,
00:29:47
I that no one tells the truth.
00:29:50
None of them tell the truth anymore.
00:29:52
And the bickering and foot
00:29:54
stomping that doesn't lead
00:29:56
to any effective results.
00:29:58
I'm tired of it, Kyle.
00:29:59
You know, so far
00:30:00
you've seen the evidence to this point.
00:30:02
We're going to try to get those notes up
00:30:03
that you sent.
00:30:04
I sent George the link over there.
00:30:05
It's Jake Nobles.
00:30:06
You can get those on
00:30:06
because that sounds like a huge
00:30:08
piece of information you provided us.
00:30:11
BOWMAN So far as you look in Guilty,
00:30:14
he looks ridiculous.
00:30:15
And moreover,
00:30:16
the the lead of his party,
00:30:18
Joe Biden, is really, really keen.
00:30:20
And this kind of segway
00:30:21
to what
00:30:21
we'll be talking about
00:30:22
a little bit later, I think.
00:30:22
But he's really keen to tell us
00:30:25
that, you know, all of our amendments,
00:30:27
all of our
00:30:27
our constitutionally protected liberties
00:30:28
have significant limits on them.
00:30:31
And the big one they love to talk about
00:30:33
is there's limits on the Second Amendment
00:30:34
because you can't yell fire
00:30:36
in a crowded theater
00:30:37
that could be dangerous.
00:30:38
Which goes directly
00:30:39
to what Steve just said.
00:30:40
You're creating
00:30:40
an unnecessary emergency now.
00:30:43
I was a paramedic for a decade.
00:30:44
I've been on ambulances.
00:30:45
I've run to fire calls.
00:30:46
I've done medical calls.
00:30:47
When people pull emergency alarms,
00:30:50
first of all,
00:30:50
every emergency results in people
00:30:52
doing things
00:30:53
that are completely illogical.
00:30:54
If you ever want to see
00:30:55
the dumbest human behavior,
00:30:57
turn on lights and sirens.
00:30:58
And Steve can probably attest
00:30:59
to this, too,
00:31:00
turn on lights and sirens
00:31:01
and try to drive
00:31:01
anywhere around normal people.
00:31:03
Apparently, they're not teaching
00:31:04
that driver's ed anymore.
00:31:05
People don't pull off to the right
00:31:06
and stop.
00:31:07
They stop where they are.
00:31:08
They speed, they cut you off, they go in,
00:31:10
they patrol on the left.
00:31:11
They'll stop in the middle
00:31:12
of an edge of lane.
00:31:13
I mean, I've done that outside of DC.
00:31:14
I've done it in other cities as well.
00:31:16
I've probably done in 20
00:31:17
or 30 different cities
00:31:18
in the United States.
00:31:18
It gets really weird really fast.
00:31:20
So you pull a fire alarm,
00:31:22
you can have a bunch of ladies
00:31:23
wearing really high heels
00:31:24
that are illogical to me,
00:31:25
but that's what they do.
00:31:26
And they work in Congress
00:31:27
and they're trying to keep you know,
00:31:28
they're trying to be professional
00:31:29
and they're trying to look nice
00:31:30
and they're going to be running across
00:31:31
those marble floors that we just saw.
00:31:33
A.G. running or not running.
00:31:34
She was walking.
00:31:35
Imagine people in a panic
00:31:36
trying to get out of a building
00:31:37
like that. That's dangerous.
00:31:38
So the whole idea of the fire
00:31:40
in a crowded theater
00:31:41
is that it
00:31:41
creates an unnecessary risk to people
00:31:43
because it is a not real emergency.
00:31:45
And he just created
00:31:46
introduced a false emergency
00:31:48
for political expediency
00:31:49
and is talking points of this.
00:31:50
This is a bullet point.
00:31:51
Point number two
00:31:52
that Jamal Bowman's office looked at.
00:31:54
And I'm going to direct quote it.
00:31:56
The direct quote starts
00:31:57
with this quote, Look,
00:31:58
if you've been in the Capitol complex
00:32:00
on the weekend,
00:32:01
you know there's only one or two ways
00:32:02
to get in or out,
00:32:03
and it causes confusion
00:32:04
for staffers and members alike.
00:32:06
It goes on.
00:32:07
It's a whole paragraph of, look,
00:32:08
I'm just trying to be
00:32:09
a reasonable guy here.
00:32:10
That's not reasonable.
00:32:11
And the first thing to do
00:32:12
is, what about ism?
00:32:13
They say you got to really worry
00:32:14
about the extreme reach
00:32:15
on the part of the MAGA Republicans.
00:32:17
They always want to
00:32:17
turn it back on Trump.
00:32:18
They always want to turn it back
00:32:19
on Republicans. It's always What?
00:32:21
What about this? What about that?
00:32:22
None of it is like, look, I'm a bonehead.
00:32:24
I made a mistake.
00:32:25
Anybody could have done it.
00:32:26
And I'm at the mercy of the court system.
00:32:28
I'm mercy of the of the Capitol Police.
00:32:30
I'm going to cooperate
00:32:31
with their investigation
00:32:31
because I blew it,
00:32:32
made a bad decision in the moment.
00:32:34
And, you know, me
00:32:34
being rushed is not a good experience
00:32:36
because there's an awful lot of people
00:32:37
that walked into some open doors
00:32:38
on January six, 20, 21,
00:32:40
and they may have made a quote unquote,
00:32:41
bad decision in the moment. Right.
00:32:43
They followed in open doors.
00:32:44
Were Capitol
00:32:45
Police officers allowed them in?
00:32:46
Had I had a walking
00:32:47
tour of the Capitol locked back out,
00:32:49
the people that punch cops go to jail.
00:32:51
Nobody's got a problem with that.
00:32:52
I don't think anybody would object.
00:32:53
You walked around
00:32:54
and you walked out with some brochures
00:32:56
like my buddy Steve Friend interviewed.
00:32:57
Like, are we serious here?
00:32:58
What kind of nation I'm going to burn?
00:33:00
Lance, I'm going to agree with you.
00:33:01
I'm going to put a link up for Kyle
00:33:03
and he can for us. Ready, you guys?
00:33:05
Yeah. Rod could not walk us through here.
00:33:07
What you've got here.
00:33:09
This is.
00:33:10
This is a messaging campaign.
00:33:11
This is on as stationary as you can see.
00:33:13
This is Jamal Bowman's,
00:33:14
and we archived it
00:33:15
because they had a hidden
00:33:16
behind a paywall.
00:33:17
I didn't want to deal with that.
00:33:18
This is over at WaPo
00:33:19
and I don't give them any money
00:33:20
if I don't have to.
00:33:21
They literally have this.
00:33:22
What happened? Here's his explanation.
00:33:24
On his way to vote today,
00:33:25
Congressman Jamaal Bowman
00:33:26
was trying to leave
00:33:27
the can an office building
00:33:28
through the exit
00:33:29
he regularly uses for votes.
00:33:30
But he was thwarted.
00:33:32
Right Like this is just
00:33:32
like breathless silliness.
00:33:34
So there he is.
00:33:35
He's being obstructed by this door.
00:33:36
And what can he do?
00:33:37
He pulled the alarm,
00:33:38
an attempt to open the door,
00:33:39
which is an honest mistake.
00:33:40
According to head,
00:33:41
this is a direct quote,
00:33:41
an honest mistake.
00:33:43
He was not attempting to delay the vote
00:33:44
that he intended to vote yes on.
00:33:46
He was simply trying
00:33:47
to rush to the Capitol.
00:33:48
And it just goes down further.
00:33:49
And then it says what he said about it.
00:33:50
I was trying to get to my vote.
00:33:52
So he goes on that
00:33:52
you can find his full statement here,
00:33:54
which he tweeted out.
00:33:54
And that was that was absurd.
00:33:56
And then the second page,
00:33:57
then the second page, it's just
00:33:58
it just ends with the talking points.
00:34:00
There are three talking points.
00:34:01
One is, what about ISM?
00:34:02
One is, look,
00:34:04
let's be reasonable here
00:34:05
about the Capitol.
00:34:06
It's complicated on the weekends
00:34:07
because not all the,
00:34:08
you know,
00:34:09
ingress and egress
00:34:10
routes are available to all the people.
00:34:12
I imagine he's been there since 2021.
00:34:13
He's probably figured out
00:34:14
how to get to work on the weekends,
00:34:16
you know,
00:34:16
or maybe he doesn't work weekends.
00:34:17
Maybe he's got that.
00:34:19
Maybe he's got that Fed attitude
00:34:20
where he shuts down Fridays at 3 p.m.
00:34:22
So maybe he's
00:34:22
I mean, let's be reasonable.
00:34:24
They've never been reasonable
00:34:25
with the Jay Sixers
00:34:26
when they charged him
00:34:27
for walking into the Capitol.
00:34:29
How about the people that get charged?
00:34:30
It never even went to the Capitol.
00:34:32
How about the people that got to
00:34:34
pay for it?
00:34:34
So here's the standard
00:34:35
that we're at right now.
00:34:36
If he had a conversation
00:34:38
with anybody in the hallway,
00:34:39
which I'm
00:34:39
sure the FBI's investigating
00:34:41
very heavily,
00:34:41
imagine are they having that
00:34:43
conversation, Steve,
00:34:44
where they went out there and interviewed
00:34:45
all of his aides
00:34:46
to see if they thought it was a good idea
00:34:48
because those people are all
00:34:49
as far as I can tell,
00:34:50
seditious conspiracy.
00:34:52
absolutely. I agree with you.
00:34:54
There's
00:34:54
no investigation at all
00:34:55
going on with this period.
00:34:57
Nobody's doing anything.
00:34:59
I would like to just get him in a room
00:35:01
and be myself by myself, him and me.
00:35:04
And I'd like to interview him
00:35:05
for about 30 minutes.
00:35:07
I really believe they're fine.
00:35:10
I would be willing to
00:35:11
pay for that polygraph. Maybe.
00:35:13
Kyle, you and I should post
00:35:16
to pay for a polygraph.
00:35:18
I'll cover the cost,
00:35:19
and we'll we'll offer to have Steve Gray
00:35:23
be part of the process,
00:35:24
to interview Bowman
00:35:26
to see if he's telling the truth.
00:35:27
Let's find out.
00:35:28
At the men's of
00:35:29
the crime is what he alleges
00:35:30
it is, that he made an actual mistake
00:35:33
and that he just didn't
00:35:34
realize what he was doing.
00:35:35
I think he's going to fail
00:35:36
the polygraph unless, of course,
00:35:37
maybe he takes a Valium
00:35:39
and put some broken glass an issue,
00:35:41
not even sure
00:35:41
if that works on a polygraph.
00:35:43
But we've heard those stories before.
00:35:45
What do you think, Kyle?
00:35:46
You think it's a good idea?
00:35:47
We put up the I'll pay for the polygraph.
00:35:49
We put up the opportunity
00:35:50
for him to clear his name.
00:35:52
Clear his name.
00:35:52
He must want that. I'm sure he does.
00:35:54
He doesn't need to.
00:35:54
He's got the mainstream media
00:35:55
that's running cover for himself
00:35:57
that's going to they're going to run it.
00:35:58
It's better than any
00:35:59
any other messaging campaign
00:36:00
you could have.
00:36:01
And either got to remember that
00:36:03
the pre interview to the polygraph
00:36:05
is the most important
00:36:06
part of the polygraph.
00:36:07
So going over those questions
00:36:09
and letting him know
00:36:10
this is exactly what I'm going to ask you
00:36:12
on that polygraph
00:36:14
that gets it
00:36:15
set in his head
00:36:16
and it goes through his head
00:36:17
over and over again. my gosh.
00:36:18
What's that needle going to do?
00:36:20
How is it going to react?
00:36:21
I say this and the other thing is this.
00:36:23
The people that
00:36:24
got Kyle,
00:36:25
both the polygraph multiple times, So
00:36:28
we had to do it as part of our job
00:36:30
to keep our security clearance.
00:36:31
And we had some truth.
00:36:33
And they asked you
00:36:33
some pretty wicked questions
00:36:35
on that polygraph,
00:36:37
you know, to make sure that you're
00:36:39
you know,
00:36:39
you're living within your means.
00:36:41
You're living
00:36:42
the lifestyle of an FBI agent
00:36:44
and you're doing the right thing
00:36:45
and always telling the truth.
00:36:46
So, you know,
00:36:47
we've taken those tests multiple times
00:36:50
and it doesn't matter
00:36:51
how many times you take it,
00:36:52
it is always hair raising.
00:36:55
I mean, once they start slipping
00:36:56
everything around you,
00:36:58
around your chest or your fingers,
00:37:00
the blood pressure cup.
00:37:01
But they also Lance,
00:37:02
I don't know if you know it or not,
00:37:03
but they also put something on your feet
00:37:04
as well
00:37:05
to make sure you're not pushing down on.
00:37:07
So they put it under your butt.
00:37:08
Do they put it out of your butt, too?
00:37:10
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:10
They're actually doing the course ago
00:37:11
when I was a contractor.
00:37:13
So I know some of that
00:37:14
because some of the stuff
00:37:15
that we were doing for governments,
00:37:17
you know,
00:37:17
they obviously put you
00:37:18
through some of the ropes.
00:37:19
But yeah, absolutely.
00:37:21
I'm sure Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff,
00:37:23
Nadler, etc..
00:37:25
And I'm sure they've all had polygraphs.
00:37:27
Sure. Yeah.
00:37:28
Well,
00:37:28
if they did, the machines
00:37:29
probably blew up
00:37:30
because I don't think any of those people
00:37:32
you just named are capable
00:37:34
of telling the truth ever. I agree.
00:37:36
You know, and here and here's the thing.
00:37:38
So George outed the smoking
00:37:40
gun of the school education
00:37:41
along with Kyle.
00:37:42
So let's face it, I agree
00:37:44
he probably, as principal
00:37:46
was part
00:37:47
of the organizing of fire drills.
00:37:50
There are
00:37:50
there are videos of him at fire
00:37:52
stations and bringing firefighters
00:37:53
into his into his school.
00:37:56
There is no chance
00:37:57
this man doesn't know what exactly
00:37:58
he was getting involved in. It's absurd.
00:38:00
It's absurd on his face.
00:38:01
But look, the bigger
00:38:02
the lie, the more you repeat it,
00:38:03
the more likely
00:38:04
we've got a whole host of people
00:38:06
that have flocked to it.
00:38:07
MSNBC did a whole thing.
00:38:08
They said, look, it was no big deal.
00:38:09
It just happened and it was an accident.
00:38:11
Let's move on.
00:38:11
Why are we even wasting our time?
00:38:13
We couldn't have that conversation
00:38:14
in in January of 2021.
00:38:16
The FBI certainly couldn't do it.
00:38:18
And, you know,
00:38:18
when you have the Capitol Police,
00:38:19
which is kind of like a glorified
00:38:21
security guard organization,
00:38:23
I don't mean to be mean about them,
00:38:24
but they're not considered to be
00:38:25
they're not an investigative organization
00:38:27
in any way, shape or form.
00:38:29
So why would they do anything
00:38:30
other than ask him what he said?
00:38:31
They work for him.
00:38:32
They work for the speakers. Yeah.
00:38:34
We all
00:38:35
we've got to take a commercial break.
00:38:36
We'll be back.
00:38:37
Lance will be back in 2 minutes
00:38:39
when we come back. Don't go anywhere.
00:38:40
Stay tuned.
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Testing.
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Let's hold on.
00:43:08
We're put it up.
00:43:12
no.
00:43:12
I know what happened.
00:43:13
Fucking my fault.
00:43:16
All right, Media four.
00:43:18
So that sign
00:43:18
right there, I understand
00:43:19
there were several of them near the door,
00:43:22
and it's plural that he threw signs.
00:43:25
There's also an image there of him
00:43:27
actually pulling the fire alarm.
00:43:28
We haven't seen actual video yet, Steve.
00:43:32
He threw the sign.
00:43:33
This just
00:43:34
appears to me to add more guilt.
00:43:35
And it seems to me
00:43:36
like he was agitated, to say the least.
00:43:40
Yeah, that
00:43:41
that is definitely representative
00:43:43
of somebody that's having a bad day.
00:43:45
So he tosses the sign
00:43:47
and then he pulls the fire alarm,
00:43:50
obviously on purpose to delay the vote
00:43:54
because things weren't going the way
00:43:55
he and the squad wanted it to.
00:43:57
So he decided on himself
00:44:00
to take the action to delay that vote.
00:44:02
And by doing that,
00:44:03
he pulled an obvious fire alarm.
00:44:05
We've all seen it.
00:44:06
Now you can't distinguish it.
00:44:08
There are no buttons to open those doors
00:44:11
other than to use your hand.
00:44:12
Push the door open so
00:44:15
you know
00:44:16
the man's guilty and you know,
00:44:19
this is a common sense issue.
00:44:21
That's all this is. It's common sense.
00:44:24
What would a reasonable person do
00:44:26
if he were in the same situation
00:44:29
and the reasonable person
00:44:31
would never pull the fire alarm?
00:44:32
Period.
00:44:35
Kyle,
00:44:37
let's start talking about the crimes.
00:44:38
Give me your statement on him
00:44:40
throwing the signs.
00:44:41
To me,
00:44:41
that's kind of an added, agitated,
00:44:43
kind of a premeditated thought process.
00:44:46
He's angry.
00:44:47
He starts throwing the signs
00:44:48
out of the way.
00:44:49
He isn't getting what he wants,
00:44:50
and then that's
00:44:51
when he goes to the fire alarm.
00:44:52
Your thoughts?
00:44:53
Well, you can't say that
00:44:54
he didn't know
00:44:54
that there was a fire alarm there,
00:44:56
that it was a blocked door. Right.
00:44:58
Like he's out there.
00:44:59
If he's flipping over the sign,
00:45:00
all it says is that he saw the sign
00:45:02
because he had to lay hands on it.
00:45:03
He didn't
00:45:03
go like in
00:45:04
some sort of like blind rage
00:45:05
or feel his way out there in the dark.
00:45:07
The guy's walking through
00:45:08
a well-lit hallway.
00:45:09
It was right about noon.
00:45:10
And and as was mentioned
00:45:12
earlier, is in some of the the
00:45:14
the back and forth,
00:45:14
he could have texted
00:45:15
and asked for a little bit more time
00:45:17
because he was in route.
00:45:19
It's not like these
00:45:19
things are on a clock at once.
00:45:21
The you know, the big hand hits
00:45:23
the little hand that it's all over
00:45:25
and they have to shut this down.
00:45:26
They have flexibility on here.
00:45:27
This is a post-COVID world.
00:45:29
So they had the ability
00:45:30
to text things that some of these people
00:45:31
like representing
00:45:32
from like teleconference.
00:45:33
They're not even showing up
00:45:34
for physical votes.
00:45:35
So the idea that he had to run
00:45:37
through a closed door
00:45:39
and then even if he did,
00:45:41
we saw the signs on the door.
00:45:42
The door says that
00:45:43
it looks like crash bars.
00:45:44
What's going to unlock it? Right.
00:45:45
What does that
00:45:47
There you go.
00:45:48
That looks like
00:45:48
it looks like a fire
00:45:49
alarm last, don't it?
00:45:52
It's pretty obvious.
00:45:53
I mean, I saw absurd on his face.
00:45:55
Here's the sad thing. Like we're in go.
00:45:57
We're negotiating
00:45:57
whether or not this guy
00:45:58
did something that is stupid and silly
00:46:00
that should it's like
00:46:02
it's a middle school prank,
00:46:03
which he used to be in charge
00:46:04
of a middle school.
00:46:05
He's probably experienced
00:46:06
this prank before.
00:46:07
Somebody doesn't want to take a test.
00:46:09
Somebody doesn't
00:46:09
want something to happen.
00:46:10
They pull the fire alarm.
00:46:11
Is that the kind of juvenile nature
00:46:13
that we have in our
00:46:14
and our representatives
00:46:15
that have gone out there,
00:46:16
this sort of auspicious office,
00:46:17
they're supposed to be
00:46:18
representing their constituents
00:46:19
and instead
00:46:20
they're running around
00:46:20
pulling fire alarms like a like a
00:46:22
like an eighth grader
00:46:23
who does want to take a spelling test.
00:46:24
It's sad.
00:46:25
It's sad that
00:46:26
that's the conversation
00:46:27
we're going to be having
00:46:28
instead of the fact
00:46:28
that we did a continuing resolution
00:46:30
and we funded our government,
00:46:31
which it should have been shut down.
00:46:34
You know,
00:46:34
that was the whole point of
00:46:35
it was the whole point
00:46:36
of taking over the house.
00:46:38
We were expecting the Republicans
00:46:40
to hold the line,
00:46:41
start doing single issue
00:46:42
spending bills, and start
00:46:43
actually approving our government's
00:46:45
funding, an appropriate funds
00:46:46
the way that it was designed to be,
00:46:47
not these enormous omnibus bills.
00:46:49
And a continuing resolution is just
00:46:51
a resolution is just kicking
00:46:52
the can down.
00:46:53
They said, you know what,
00:46:53
We don't want to deal with this problem.
00:46:55
There's too many things on the line.
00:46:56
Let's just keep the funding where it is.
00:46:58
Stephen I have both been paid under RS
00:47:00
is the dumbest thing in the world.
00:47:02
Like I'd rather have it shut down.
00:47:03
I had enough money in my pocket.
00:47:05
The people that don't have made
00:47:06
their own personal bad decisions,
00:47:08
they're a national security
00:47:09
risk, in my opinion.
00:47:10
If you can't afford to go
00:47:11
for a paycheck or two,
00:47:12
I mean, the federal government
00:47:13
pays pretty well
00:47:14
for the kind of work that they demand of
00:47:15
You can work as hard as you want,
00:47:17
but you don't have to.
00:47:18
You said you expected the government
00:47:19
to do whatever work it is supposed to do.
00:47:21
So here's the scenario,
00:47:22
because some of you ask this question to
00:47:24
I'll give you
00:47:25
all FBI agents take their oath of office.
00:47:28
We expect them
00:47:28
to honor the oath of office,
00:47:29
but a lot of them aren't.
00:47:31
It doesn't mean anything
00:47:32
to any of them anymore.
00:47:33
I'm not you guys, but the FBI. What? My.
00:47:35
My buddy
00:47:36
Steve Friend
00:47:36
wrote a really good piece about this.
00:47:37
He said a lot of people
00:47:38
must be coming in.
00:47:39
And I have to say that
00:47:40
the director of the FBI
00:47:42
and the attorney general
00:47:43
seem to have the same attitude.
00:47:44
They're treating it
00:47:45
like an iPhone service agreement,
00:47:46
like when you upgrade your software,
00:47:47
like, hey, here's all this stuff.
00:47:49
Do you scroll through that?
00:47:50
Do you agree to that?
00:47:51
Because otherwise
00:47:51
we're not going to upgrade your
00:47:52
your software.
00:47:53
You go, yeah, I agree. I agree.
00:47:54
I agree.
00:47:55
The Constitution.
00:47:56
I don't know
00:47:56
how many people actually know what it is
00:47:58
that they're even agreeing to
00:47:59
at this point.
00:47:59
I would love to start querying
00:48:01
federal agents and set them down.
00:48:03
And I'm
00:48:03
not asking them
00:48:04
to say whether they're
00:48:04
swearing allegiance to the Article
00:48:06
One powers of Congress
00:48:07
or the Article
00:48:07
two powers of the executive,
00:48:09
or that they are going to defend
00:48:10
the Article three powers, the judiciary.
00:48:12
I want to know,
00:48:12
do you know what the Bill of Rights
00:48:13
looks like?
00:48:13
Because that's all that really
00:48:14
where the rubber meets the road for me.
00:48:16
Do you know what you are
00:48:17
not allowed to do?
00:48:18
You know that
00:48:18
you're not allowed to infringe
00:48:19
on civil liberties,
00:48:21
specifically my free religion,
00:48:23
the freedom of the press,
00:48:24
which we have a big problem
00:48:25
with right now,
00:48:26
the freedom to assemble,
00:48:27
which we apparently have run roughshod
00:48:28
over that thing.
00:48:29
And, you know,
00:48:30
the idea that you can discuss ideas
00:48:31
that are inflammatory
00:48:33
and then maybe stay out of my gun
00:48:34
locker, too,
00:48:34
I don't want you coming into my safe.
00:48:36
How about all those things?
00:48:37
These are really straightforward things.
00:48:38
That's what you're
00:48:38
wearing your allegiance to.
00:48:39
And how many guys know that?
00:48:41
I know Steve does,
00:48:41
because we've talked about it.
00:48:43
I know. Guys used to know that.
00:48:45
All right, hold on.
00:48:46
I'm going to say some.
00:48:47
When Trump wins next year
00:48:48
and becomes president, I vote.
00:48:51
I nominate
00:48:53
you gentlemen to run the frickin FBI.
00:48:55
Either dismantle it and start over.
00:48:57
I don't care. Just fix it.
00:48:58
You guys up for the task?
00:49:01
Yeah, absolutely.
00:49:02
starting with 36.
00:49:03
Do you let me hear something from you?
00:49:04
Listen, I ran.
00:49:05
I ran on that for Congress.
00:49:07
I know. I wanted.
00:49:09
I wanted to basically strip
00:49:11
the FBI down the top down.
00:49:13
First thing.
00:49:14
What we have to do with the FBI is
00:49:15
you got to get rid of upper management.
00:49:17
Upper management
00:49:18
is one of the biggest problems
00:49:20
that we have in the FBI right now,
00:49:22
because these guys
00:49:23
are all toeing the line, doing
00:49:25
whatever they are told to do,
00:49:27
and they don't rock the boat.
00:49:29
They just want to get out,
00:49:30
get that big cushy
00:49:32
security job at a big firm
00:49:34
like Pfizer and make,
00:49:36
you know, $1 a year.
00:49:37
That's what they're looking for.
00:49:39
Yeah, there's no doubt.
00:49:41
And I think
00:49:42
your guys positions at the FBI
00:49:44
could really be
00:49:45
supported strongly if I was the OIG,
00:49:48
because I can tell you this right now,
00:49:50
if they ever gave me a budget
00:49:52
and the authority,
00:49:53
yeah,
00:49:54
we're bagging and tag in
00:49:55
as fast as we can wrap these people up
00:49:57
because the amount of crimes
00:49:58
that are participating
00:49:59
is just disgusting.
00:50:01
What I'm tired of is exactly what Kyle
00:50:03
just just nailed.
00:50:05
I am so sick of the way
00:50:07
that they just manipulate the rules
00:50:11
and regulations
00:50:12
in any way that they want to.
00:50:14
It's clear that he did this.
00:50:16
They want to apply the law rules for the
00:50:18
not for me.
00:50:20
There is no rule of law.
00:50:21
I look at the way that
00:50:23
so many of the agencies
00:50:25
are violating the laws,
00:50:26
even in investigations,
00:50:27
whether it's illegal
00:50:28
wiretaps, illegal jeeps.
00:50:30
I mean, there was a large national issue
00:50:33
that nobody's ever really addressed
00:50:35
correctly.
00:50:35
Securus, who provides the phone system
00:50:38
for all prisons across the United States,
00:50:40
had a problem in the software.
00:50:42
All the DOJ, FBI and all the agents
00:50:45
that were investigating cases
00:50:46
where they had
00:50:47
defendants on
00:50:48
pretrial holds were Securus facilities,
00:50:51
were actually providing
00:50:52
the phone services in the facilities.
00:50:54
Those those software flaws allowed them
00:50:56
to get all the legal calls unrestricted,
00:51:00
fully record.
00:51:00
It didn't matter
00:51:01
whether it was the paralegals
00:51:02
or the private investigators.
00:51:04
Those cases have broke out in Texas,
00:51:07
Kansas, Boston and California.
00:51:10
And yet nobody's unified in saying, wow,
00:51:12
it impacted thousands of federal cases.
00:51:15
We've got an issue
00:51:16
we probably need to remand
00:51:17
and reverse a lot of these charges
00:51:18
because they were actually
00:51:19
cheating the entire time.
00:51:21
But it's those kind of things
00:51:23
that are happening in volume
00:51:24
across the country.
00:51:25
And it's the way they operate,
00:51:27
just like bombing.
00:51:29
I we both chuckled, Steve, when he said,
00:51:31
I don't understand why this
00:51:32
is getting so much attention,
00:51:34
but yet
00:51:35
the same thing that Kyle said
00:51:38
and you said about the arrest.
00:51:39
You've got Jay,
00:51:40
six people
00:51:41
that literally saw the door open
00:51:43
and walked inside.
00:51:44
I have to be honest,
00:51:45
George and I almost went to the Capitol.
00:51:48
Had I seen the signs
00:51:49
that said don't enter,
00:51:50
I probably wouldn't have.
00:51:51
But I have to tell you,
00:51:52
when I saw the guy with his feet
00:51:53
up on Nancy Pelosi's desk, I was jealous.
00:51:58
And as stupid as that is,
00:51:59
I might have been that guy.
00:52:00
The point is, people were trying
00:52:02
to redress their grievances.
00:52:03
And I believe the only reason
00:52:04
violence popped off as a comparison
00:52:07
and the most recent comparisons
00:52:08
when people said they were comparing
00:52:10
Jay 6 to 9 one one,
00:52:12
I personally was disgusted by this.
00:52:14
I still think there's many things
00:52:16
that are in question about 911.
00:52:19
And for for anybody to compare January 6
00:52:21
to 911 and the loss of life,
00:52:23
you guys, both as federal
00:52:24
agents have to be offended by that,
00:52:26
because I'm offended by it.
00:52:27
At the same time, when I see these
00:52:30
these grandmothers
00:52:31
and these people that are being arrested
00:52:33
for simply walking in the Capitol,
00:52:34
some of them are waving at the guards
00:52:36
and walking through.
00:52:37
Some of them are giving out
00:52:38
sandwiches and cookies.
00:52:40
How the hell do you arrest
00:52:41
these people and justify those actions?
00:52:43
And then the
00:52:44
and then the exculpatory
00:52:45
and Brady material
00:52:46
that's being destroyed.
00:52:48
They destroyed so much evidence
00:52:50
and they didn't provide people
00:52:51
the ability to defend themselves.
00:52:53
They have a right to have that material.
00:52:55
And here they are hiding it.
00:52:56
Kyle, your thoughts on this,
00:52:57
because this bombing
00:52:58
is just a further extension to me
00:53:00
of everything wrong that's in DC.
00:53:01
He's like the poster child right now,
00:53:03
him and Dianne Feinstein,
00:53:04
we can put them both on a poster
00:53:05
term limits and reasons
00:53:07
that people in Congress suck.
00:53:09
So the thing that keeps occurring to me,
00:53:11
there was a movie that was years ago.
00:53:13
It was one of those
00:53:14
kind of depressing movies.
00:53:15
You thought it was going to
00:53:15
be a good date movie,
00:53:16
and it turns out to be pretty awful.
00:53:18
And and it was called the
00:53:20
it was called the break up,
00:53:21
I want to say.
00:53:21
Does that sound right?
00:53:22
Yeah,
00:53:23
I know that Vince Vaughn
00:53:24
and it had Jennifer what was her name
00:53:27
anyhow know we apart like that.
00:53:30
So it gets to the crux of the issue
00:53:31
there and
00:53:33
the scene is playing in my head.
00:53:34
He gets she gets really mad at him
00:53:36
because he didn't do the dishes
00:53:37
and he goes,
00:53:38
All you have to do is like,
00:53:39
you know, tell me to do dishes.
00:53:40
She goes, No, no, no.
00:53:41
I want you to want to do the dishes,
00:53:44
which is completely
00:53:45
like fundamentally bizarre to men.
00:53:47
We're like,
00:53:47
Why would I want to do the dishes?
00:53:48
Which is what Vince Vaughn says.
00:53:50
I want federal agents
00:53:51
to want to do the right thing.
00:53:53
Okay?
00:53:54
I want them to want to not listen to jail
00:53:56
phone calls
00:53:57
that have an attorney on there.
00:53:58
Is it easier to find out
00:53:59
what the legal defense strategy
00:54:01
is to build your case? Of course it is.
00:54:02
And they might be having some things
00:54:03
where they admit to something
00:54:05
they are entitled to due process.
00:54:06
We have to be above that.
00:54:07
You have to be better than that.
00:54:09
And if your case is so weak
00:54:10
and your investigative ability
00:54:12
is so pathetic
00:54:13
that you need to have the guy
00:54:15
in a privileged conversation
00:54:16
spill it in a way
00:54:18
that if we had that happen,
00:54:19
we would be all over
00:54:20
trying to tamper down
00:54:21
for national security reasons,
00:54:22
if that's the thing
00:54:22
that's going to break your case,
00:54:24
man, screw you.
00:54:25
You suck. Go out and do your job harder.
00:54:27
I had the same conversation
00:54:28
with the president of the FBI
00:54:29
Agents Association.
00:54:31
He said he thought
00:54:31
we should crack all end
00:54:33
to end encrypted apps
00:54:34
because theoretically,
00:54:35
maybe some terrorists could hide there
00:54:37
and maybe some shell pornographers
00:54:38
could hide there.
00:54:39
And I said, you don't break the tool
00:54:40
just because someone uses it wrong.
00:54:42
You don't stop having locks
00:54:43
just because someone used a lock
00:54:44
to somebody
00:54:45
in a closed room
00:54:46
and in prison, that
00:54:47
it's a it's a small, small
00:54:49
fraction of things that happened wrong.
00:54:51
You still have to do the right thing
00:54:52
when it happens.
00:54:53
And so my problem is
00:54:54
I want federal agents
00:54:55
to do the right thing.
00:54:56
And here's the other funny thing.
00:54:57
That's what the Durham report said.
00:54:59
It said the problem is not with policies
00:55:01
and procedures at the FBI.
00:55:02
The problem is people
00:55:03
have not taken the oath
00:55:04
and they have not taken
00:55:05
fidelity, bravery and integrity
00:55:07
to heart
00:55:08
and tried to live that out as a mantra.
00:55:09
So Steve and I are sitting out here
00:55:11
looking at an agency
00:55:12
that is full of corrupt cracks
00:55:13
all the way up to the top.
00:55:15
You've got guys
00:55:15
at the deputy director level
00:55:17
who have girlfriends that work
00:55:18
for the FBI
00:55:19
that they're not supposed to have
00:55:20
that are getting no show jobs in DC
00:55:22
that may or may not show up in the press.
00:55:23
But that's what happened.
00:55:24
We've got the name
00:55:25
and the receipts to back it up.
00:55:26
Multiple people from the FBI's
00:55:28
have come forward and talked to people
00:55:30
that have share that information with me.
00:55:31
It's been reported to the Office
00:55:32
of the Inspector General.
00:55:33
We've got people
00:55:34
that are the
00:55:35
the head person at the
00:55:37
at the human resources division
00:55:38
going out
00:55:39
after pro-life Christians
00:55:41
who said
00:55:41
we don't want to get a vaccine shot.
00:55:43
And they decided basically
00:55:44
if you're not going to get
00:55:45
the shot,
00:55:45
you're not going to drop a knee
00:55:46
for what we need you to,
00:55:48
we're going to crush you.
00:55:49
So they pulled security clearances.
00:55:50
I had my security clearance
00:55:51
pulled over, having a conversation
00:55:53
with a local police
00:55:53
officer in New Mexico.
00:55:55
We were just chatting.
00:55:56
He goes, Hey, man,
00:55:57
can you not shoot here?
00:55:58
And I said, I'm a Second Amendment guy.
00:56:00
I'm a federal agent.
00:56:01
I'm wearing my freakin badge
00:56:02
on my on my belt right now.
00:56:03
And I'm working out of a $500 pistol rig.
00:56:05
No, I'm going to keep shooting out here
00:56:07
in a safe direction,
00:56:08
a half mile away from anybody.
00:56:09
That's not even a building near me.
00:56:12
And he goes, Yeah, okay, I understand.
00:56:13
And I quoted the state law.
00:56:14
I mean, he didn't know what it was.
00:56:15
It was a non interaction.
00:56:16
The FBI pulled my clearance for it. Why?
00:56:18
Because I also said I wouldn't
00:56:20
put stuff up my nose every 72 hours
00:56:22
and get a COVID test.
00:56:23
So when that's the kind of agency
00:56:24
we're dealing with,
00:56:25
of course they're going to push the line
00:56:27
and it goes all the way down
00:56:28
to the front line supervisors.
00:56:29
You know, Steve used to be a GS 14.
00:56:31
He was a frontline supervisor.
00:56:32
He was a squad supervisor.
00:56:33
Those are the guys that are
00:56:34
actually sending people into action.
00:56:37
They're the guys that are sending people
00:56:38
to pro-life activists house
00:56:39
and knocking down these doors.
00:56:40
It actually is a much bigger problem
00:56:42
with culture
00:56:43
because the people
00:56:43
that have raised their hand
00:56:44
and said, yes, I'm
00:56:44
going to be a supervisor,
00:56:46
haven't taken on the honor
00:56:47
that it should take on to do that.
00:56:48
Yeah, I agree.
00:56:49
Take on a little bit
00:56:50
of a bigger paycheck.
00:56:51
You become an administrative agent,
00:56:52
you don't get to kick down doors anymore.
00:56:54
You don't
00:56:54
do you do a lot of the fun stuff
00:56:55
that we used to be able to do.
00:56:56
If you want to be a 14, but guess what?
00:56:58
You also have to set the line
00:57:00
for what's right and wrong,
00:57:01
and you got to model it too.
00:57:02
We don't have management.
00:57:03
I mean, we have all the management,
00:57:04
rather it's always from the top down.
00:57:06
The corruption
00:57:07
always starts at the top down,
00:57:08
because I still believe
00:57:09
there's many good agents in the FBI,
00:57:11
there's many good agents in the DHS,
00:57:14
there's many good agents
00:57:14
all through Washington, DC.
00:57:16
But when you have that kind of influence
00:57:18
coming from the top and
00:57:20
and they're allowing and actually
00:57:22
promoting these kind of things
00:57:24
and then the fact is
00:57:25
without accountability or consequences,
00:57:27
it's like that bartender
00:57:28
they start stealing with from you,
00:57:30
you know, in a bar,
00:57:31
he steals one beer,
00:57:32
he gets away with the next night,
00:57:33
he steals two beers, the next I.D.
00:57:34
steals three beers.
00:57:35
You still haven't caught him.
00:57:36
By the end of the month,
00:57:36
you're paying his rent.
00:57:38
And the point is, that's the difference.
00:57:40
Nobody is paying the price.
00:57:42
The American public pays the price.
00:57:44
When people get charged.
00:57:45
The consequences of J.
00:57:46
Six, the consequences of other things.
00:57:48
When you look at the dirty 51 plus eight
00:57:51
and you look at the Russian
00:57:52
collusion hoax,
00:57:53
there's nobody assigned that document
00:57:55
that said that that was a legitimate
00:57:58
issue, that that really happened.
00:58:00
All of those people
00:58:02
committed treason, in my opinion,
00:58:04
because they they were
00:58:05
they were attacking a sitting president
00:58:07
and they ought to have their clearance.
00:58:08
And I don't. Yeah.
00:58:10
All of a sudden, a civilian, right?
00:58:12
A civilian, then a president.
00:58:13
And here they are investigated.
00:58:15
I mean,
00:58:15
you would listen to Dennis Montgomery
00:58:17
and the tools that are being used
00:58:18
that were foreign
00:58:20
surveillance tools
00:58:21
that have been turned
00:58:22
on the American public.
00:58:23
In 2006,
00:58:24
he turned over 50
00:58:25
some disks to the FBI and other agencies
00:58:28
in a skiff back in Washington, DC.
00:58:30
Nothing's ever come out of those desk.
00:58:31
He proved it.
00:58:32
What did they do?
00:58:33
They tried to discredit him
00:58:34
just like they do everybody else.
00:58:35
Somebody brings up the truth.
00:58:36
And Steve, I want to
00:58:37
I want you to chime in here
00:58:38
and then obviously
00:58:40
means you're on fire about Jamal.
00:58:42
I would be remiss
00:58:44
to not show the big mi mafia
00:58:46
some of these means
00:58:47
that are floating around.
00:58:48
A couple of them flat cracked me up.
00:58:50
But Steve, give me your input.
00:58:51
Last words on Bowman.
00:58:53
I think he's guilty.
00:58:54
Tell me what you think
00:58:55
about what
00:58:56
Kyle just said about this
00:58:57
top down influence.
00:58:59
Absolutely.
00:59:00
It's an
00:59:00
I was a headquarters supervisor,
00:59:02
which means I worked out of Washington,
00:59:03
DC for two years
00:59:05
directly with Charlie McGonigle.
00:59:07
We all know Charlie got it.
00:59:08
He was my unit chief.
00:59:10
He was also my S.A.C.
00:59:12
when I was in New York City.
00:59:15
You know,
00:59:16
these are the individuals
00:59:17
that we're dealing with within the FBI.
00:59:19
I also sat on the promotion board
00:59:21
within headquarters,
00:59:22
which meant that
00:59:23
we looked over
00:59:24
the promotional material of candidates,
00:59:27
decided
00:59:27
who would be promoted into headquarters.
00:59:30
But, you know,
00:59:31
I was the type of person
00:59:32
that continually
00:59:34
asked a lot of questions,
00:59:35
and I was
00:59:36
sort of a boat rocker
00:59:37
because I didn't always go with the flow.
00:59:40
And I wasn't going to go well.
00:59:41
I asked a lot of questions.
00:59:43
So in one instance
00:59:44
where we're in a promotion board,
00:59:46
we got a knock at the door,
00:59:47
and a knock at the door is a unit chief,
00:59:49
and the new chief comes in and says,
00:59:50
Hey, listen, this is the guy that I want
00:59:54
and hands over the paper.
00:59:55
So
00:59:57
first of all, there was no
01:00:00
everybody was already to say,
01:00:01
okay, let's let's promote this guy.
01:00:04
But there was a hint,
01:00:04
a stack of papers
01:00:05
for people across the country
01:00:07
that were looking for the same job
01:00:09
that were for better qualified.
01:00:11
But because this person
01:00:13
was a buddy of the unit chief
01:00:15
and he did absolutely no work
01:00:17
in the putting
01:00:18
his promotion act together,
01:00:20
you know, he's the one that got the job.
01:00:22
And there was only one
01:00:23
dissenting vote in that room
01:00:24
and that was me.
01:00:25
And of course,
01:00:26
I took a lot of flak for that.
01:00:27
But this is the FBI
01:00:29
that we're dealing with today.
01:00:30
Now, this was back in 2007.
01:00:34
Think about this.
01:00:35
This problem
01:00:35
has gotten
01:00:36
substantially worse from seven to today.
01:00:40
And I watched it get worse and worse
01:00:42
to the point where I threw
01:00:44
all of my stuff on the desk.
01:00:46
And I retired that day
01:00:48
that we pulled in a 65 year
01:00:51
old grandmother for a January six protest
01:00:54
who just wanted to go see Donald Trump
01:00:57
because she was standing
01:00:58
near the Capitol.
01:00:59
They arrested her. I think it's it's
01:01:03
I don't normally cuss on air
01:01:05
a bunch of bullshit
01:01:06
what we've done to these
01:01:07
individuals is a crime in itself.
01:01:11
The January six protest
01:01:13
and the fact that
01:01:14
we had known instigators from the FBI
01:01:17
in that and within the protesters
01:01:21
that were causing problems
01:01:22
that were doing things
01:01:23
that they shouldn't, not that matter,
01:01:25
but not to mention the Antifa members
01:01:28
that were in there
01:01:29
and the Black Lives
01:01:30
Matter people that were in there
01:01:31
all causing problems
01:01:33
and that we're going to pin it
01:01:34
on a few people that walked into the door
01:01:36
of the of the Capitol.
01:01:38
All of the rest of these people
01:01:39
get off scot free.
01:01:40
And I want to add one more thing.
01:01:42
I was working on a Saturday
01:01:44
with a group of people in my office
01:01:46
at the FBI in New York City
01:01:49
when Black Lives Matter
01:01:51
protesters broke through the glass
01:01:54
doors of the federal building,
01:01:55
trying to get in
01:01:57
and were basically in the lobby.
01:02:00
Now, nothing happened
01:02:01
to those individuals,
01:02:03
even though they broke the glass
01:02:04
and the doors
01:02:05
and entered
01:02:05
illegally into the
01:02:07
into the federal building,
01:02:08
Nothing happened to them.
01:02:10
But we're locking up 65 year
01:02:11
old grandmothers.
01:02:12
It's a crime.
01:02:14
And that is so absolutely.
01:02:16
You just nailed it.
01:02:17
And, you know, and people are looking
01:02:18
for that equal application
01:02:20
of the law, equal protection on the law.
01:02:22
They want the rule of law
01:02:23
to apply equally.
01:02:24
If somebody is guilty,
01:02:25
regardless of party
01:02:26
affiliation, color, religion,
01:02:28
they want them prosecute.
01:02:29
And if somebody is not guilty,
01:02:31
what they don't want
01:02:31
is misapplication of moral right.
01:02:33
What they don't want is a weaponized DOJ,
01:02:36
a weaponized FBI,
01:02:37
that you get these policies
01:02:38
that are being handed down
01:02:39
by the administration and others.
01:02:41
And and they're decided, let's face it,
01:02:44
that advantage
01:02:45
six when you go
01:02:46
and you watch them
01:02:47
on the front line videos
01:02:48
and what videos they've given us.
01:02:49
Another thing that McCarthy said
01:02:50
he was going to do and didn't do,
01:02:52
another one of those floated stories
01:02:54
to get the position of speaker,
01:02:56
the less lethal to use it
01:02:57
munitions that started popping off.
01:02:59
If you look
01:03:01
and anybody that's done
01:03:02
any kind of service knows
01:03:03
that when you start using pop smoke,
01:03:05
it's one of the ways you communicate.
01:03:07
There are different colors of pop
01:03:08
smoke happening in the crowd.
01:03:10
And I would say
01:03:11
that they were multiple federal agents
01:03:13
or maybe multiple
01:03:14
special forces
01:03:15
or other people communicating.
01:03:17
I also saw some hand signals
01:03:19
that were clearly military hand signals.
01:03:22
You look at Ray Epps at the front line
01:03:23
and look at some of the individuals
01:03:24
that were around him.
01:03:25
They're also some of the same individuals
01:03:27
that appear
01:03:28
to have broken through at the Capitol.
01:03:30
You look how long it took
01:03:31
to charge Ray Epps,
01:03:32
but Ray UPS is looking at a misdemeanor.
01:03:34
But yet there he is taking down barriers.
01:03:36
He did the same thing
01:03:38
that that proud boys
01:03:40
are being charged for.
01:03:41
But even more so,
01:03:42
he was telling people,
01:03:42
we're going to break into the Capitol,
01:03:44
we're going to do this.
01:03:44
We've got to go.
01:03:45
There's video after video.
01:03:47
And I believe it's
01:03:48
because he colluded with them.
01:03:50
I my opinion is
01:03:52
it all
01:03:52
should be exposed,
01:03:53
including all of Nancy Pelosi's
01:03:55
text messages and emails a week
01:03:57
leading up to the event,
01:03:58
because in my opinion,
01:04:00
the communication devices,
01:04:01
when you become
01:04:01
a congressional representative,
01:04:03
you should be open to search and seizure
01:04:06
at any moment.
01:04:07
And in my opinion, it's
01:04:08
ownership of the American public.
01:04:10
And I'm not talking about anything
01:04:10
that has to do with national security.
01:04:13
I'm talking about
01:04:15
the fact that it appears as though
01:04:17
there were many people
01:04:18
orchestrating the event.
01:04:19
We heard it all.
01:04:20
We had
01:04:20
we had one of the Capitol police on here.
01:04:22
We heard about Mangere and Pittman
01:04:24
and the in
01:04:26
way they went about dealing
01:04:27
with the calls
01:04:28
they got that there was more needed.
01:04:30
Many of the officers
01:04:31
were told to take that day off.
01:04:33
So here we are
01:04:34
with a gentleman
01:04:35
that obviously did much of the same.
01:04:38
He decided to interrupt
01:04:39
the official proceeding.
01:04:41
And Bowman is just that person.
01:04:42
Hey, George, can you throw up?
01:04:43
We're going to I'm going
01:04:44
to lighten up the tone here,
01:04:46
and then I'm gonna let Kyle jump in
01:04:47
after I show these means.
01:04:48
Wrap it up
01:04:49
and we're going to go to the cartels
01:04:50
and we'll try to do that quickly.
01:04:51
I appreciate you guys being so patient.
01:04:53
Sorry about the technical stuff,
01:04:55
George Media six, if you don't mind
01:04:57
If you're there, I'm here.
01:05:00
You go.
01:05:01
Killing, you know the names.
01:05:02
The Teamsters are on fire, George.
01:05:04
You can rapid fire these media seven
01:05:07
and this is one of my favorites.
01:05:08
I like this one a lot.
01:05:09
I don't know why
01:05:10
I thought it was, well, well-executed.
01:05:13
It got a lot of likes.
01:05:15
You know,
01:05:17
There he is leading the charge.
01:05:19
Right.
01:05:19
And then media aide,
01:05:20
I did this one for your daughter, Kyle.
01:05:23
This is for your daughter.
01:05:24
She knows the difference.
01:05:25
Bowman clearly does not.
01:05:27
That's right.
01:05:29
Kyle.
01:05:30
We're going to go to the cartels.
01:05:31
Nick, forgive me. Your last words.
01:05:34
Guilty, not guilty.
01:05:35
Nolo contendere.
01:05:39
I mean, he did the thing
01:05:40
he said that he did
01:05:41
because he told everybody he did it.
01:05:42
Like, here's the thing.
01:05:43
We have a written confession
01:05:44
for the man in a statement,
01:05:45
plus talking points on
01:05:46
how to defend it in the press.
01:05:48
It's not even it's
01:05:49
not even a question of whether
01:05:50
what happened happened. It did.
01:05:52
He acknowledged it.
01:05:53
And so the investigation is already over.
01:05:55
We don't have to get any further into it.
01:05:56
All we need to know is,
01:05:58
is that
01:05:58
we're not looking at an equal application
01:05:59
of justice in this country
01:06:01
because this
01:06:01
like I said, this shouldn't be a thing
01:06:02
that we should be
01:06:03
spending our time talking about,
01:06:04
but we shouldn't be talking about
01:06:06
most of the things
01:06:06
that happened on January six, either.
01:06:07
And so, like you said,
01:06:09
fundamental fairness is lacking
01:06:11
dramatically in this country.
01:06:12
It's taken a vacation, is not come back.
01:06:14
I would love to see it come back.
01:06:15
I don't have a problem with people being
01:06:18
for committing crimes
01:06:19
as long as everybody is doing it.
01:06:20
And here's the thing it's
01:06:21
never really talked about
01:06:22
and I'd love to see it talked about more.
01:06:24
There are two ways that you can charge
01:06:25
a crime in Washington, DC.
01:06:27
You can charge it in the Superior Court,
01:06:28
which is the equivalent
01:06:29
of the state charges,
01:06:30
or you can charge it on the federal level
01:06:32
in the district court,
01:06:33
and they charge everything
01:06:34
in a district court
01:06:35
because they have heavy penalties.
01:06:36
They are much nastier.
01:06:38
They could have actually run
01:06:39
all these misdemeanors
01:06:40
through the Superior Court dockets,
01:06:41
which they would have been dismissed from
01:06:43
because they're dealing
01:06:43
with the things that deal with,
01:06:44
you know, violence in D.C.
01:06:46
People are getting stabbed
01:06:47
on a nightly basis.
01:06:48
People are getting shot
01:06:49
and robbed
01:06:49
and cars are being jacked
01:06:51
and all the other kind of horrible things
01:06:52
that go on in D.C..
01:06:53
DC is a war zone in many ways.
01:06:55
And I worked on the streets
01:06:55
there as a surveillance guy
01:06:57
for three years.
01:06:58
I saw all the worst parts of it
01:06:59
and rather than us messing around
01:07:00
that that's where those
01:07:01
those charges should have gone.
01:07:02
It's like,
01:07:03
you're a trespasser in the Capitol.
01:07:04
You've been charged with this thing.
01:07:06
It has been dismissed
01:07:06
because we're dealing with this dude.
01:07:08
He stabbed the lady in the neck
01:07:09
14 times last night.
01:07:10
We're going to probably handle that.
01:07:11
Instead, there was no prioritization.
01:07:13
They actually bumped up
01:07:14
the priority of something
01:07:15
that should have been a priority at all.
01:07:16
And so that's why
01:07:17
people feel like there's an injustice
01:07:18
that's happening.
01:07:19
So, you know,
01:07:20
they say that the FBI academy,
01:07:21
sometimes there's justice,
01:07:22
sometimes it's just us.
01:07:22
Right now it's just us. I'm just saying
01:07:25
I agree.
01:07:26
So, you know, we've seen the
01:07:29
our DC,
01:07:32
you know,
01:07:33
I call them the deep State cabal.
01:07:34
They're ineffective in Washington DC.
01:07:37
Their policies
01:07:38
are one of the worst policies
01:07:40
right now is the border.
01:07:42
They took an oath to protect it
01:07:43
from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
01:07:45
It appears as though
01:07:46
that's not a priority.
01:07:47
Illegal immigration.
01:07:49
I think they hit some crazy number
01:07:50
last month.
01:07:51
I think the number I heard
01:07:52
was 265 on actual gotchas,
01:07:56
not including the got two ways.
01:07:59
I mean, a new logo for the Border Patrol.
01:08:03
I wanted to change their name
01:08:04
to the welcome.
01:08:06
So I made them a new logo
01:08:07
that I put up on X the other day
01:08:09
because I think that's what we've got.
01:08:11
We've got people getting paid to do a job
01:08:12
and they're not allowed to do their job.
01:08:13
And I think many of them
01:08:14
are bothered by that.
01:08:15
But of course
01:08:16
it's the same thing
01:08:17
we just discussed from the top down.
01:08:19
The cartels have had a banner year,
01:08:21
Joe Biden and his administration.
01:08:23
I think they should get employees of year
01:08:26
for the cartels.
01:08:28
They've made more money than ever.
01:08:29
Human trafficking, child trafficking.
01:08:32
The coyotes are flusher than
01:08:35
ever realized.
01:08:36
The cartels have gotten much
01:08:37
more sophisticated.
01:08:39
They're investing their money
01:08:40
in advanced technology.
01:08:41
And that's what we're seeing.
01:08:42
I don't know how familiar you guys are.
01:08:44
I just broke story the other day.
01:08:46
I don't know how much
01:08:46
coverage it's got so far, but
01:08:48
up till now, the cartels have always
01:08:51
it's always been a pattern
01:08:52
that guns have moved north to south.
01:08:55
You've seen it with the Fast
01:08:56
and Furious investigation
01:08:58
using with others.
01:08:59
You guys,
01:09:00
how much do you know about the guns
01:09:01
moving north to south with the cartels?
01:09:03
What are you familiar with?
01:09:04
Either one of you know?
01:09:05
Want to go Steve first?
01:09:07
Well, you know,
01:09:08
I didn't have too much experience
01:09:10
with that
01:09:11
working in New York City,
01:09:12
but I know Kyle did working close to the,
01:09:15
you know,
01:09:17
living basically down there
01:09:18
and being close to the border.
01:09:19
But, yeah, we do know that for a fact
01:09:22
that a lot of the guns are purchased here
01:09:26
legally, packaged up
01:09:28
and then smuggled across the border
01:09:30
to the cartels
01:09:33
and that's the way it's
01:09:34
been since basically
01:09:35
the beginning of time.
01:09:37
And nothing has changed.
01:09:38
But what I understand now is that
01:09:40
things are going to get a lot worse.
01:09:42
I think they've got a plan.
01:09:43
Kyle,
01:09:44
give me your take on the flow of guns.
01:09:46
Up till now,
01:09:47
it's always been north or south.
01:09:49
You buy in the United States
01:09:49
where they're legal,
01:09:50
you're not allowed to own them.
01:09:51
In Mexico, that's a mexico problem.
01:09:53
It turns out it's actually a felony
01:09:54
in the United States, too,
01:09:55
because you're talking
01:09:56
about a straw purchase,
01:09:57
which means you're both
01:09:58
lying on a federal form,
01:09:59
the 4473 background check
01:10:01
as you buy the gun,
01:10:02
you could tell I buy a lot of them.
01:10:03
You know,
01:10:03
when you know the form names,
01:10:04
you know, you're one of those guys
01:10:05
that has a lot of them.
01:10:06
There's hundreds of those forms
01:10:07
with my name on them.
01:10:08
And they're buying the guns in the U.S.
01:10:10
They're buying them
01:10:11
as the non intended purchaser.
01:10:12
They're turning around, packing up.
01:10:13
They drive down through Arizona,
01:10:14
you know, Nogales or whatever it may be.
01:10:16
They're driving down
01:10:17
through my friends and
01:10:17
and Long Wells
01:10:18
or they're doing it in Las Cruces.
01:10:19
They're going down through Anthony.
01:10:20
They're going across the bridge.
01:10:21
The Americas,
01:10:22
or that becomes a mexican problem
01:10:23
because now you've got people on
01:10:25
the Mexican side
01:10:25
that are looking the other way as well.
01:10:27
Famous corruption that happens there.
01:10:29
But also,
01:10:29
you know,
01:10:30
you're breaking laws
01:10:30
and now two areas,
01:10:31
both in the United States
01:10:32
and in Mexico by doing that.
01:10:34
And the traffic has always been,
01:10:35
you know, from our area
01:10:36
where you can access them.
01:10:38
Firearms are plentiful
01:10:39
and we have a protected liberty to them.
01:10:40
The Mexicans don't have that privilege,
01:10:41
so they are having them that way.
01:10:43
So that's always been the case.
01:10:44
And unfortunately,
01:10:44
I even have friends like Victor
01:10:46
Aguilar, who was who was shot
01:10:48
and almost killed
01:10:48
and his partner actually
01:10:49
was killed
01:10:50
down in Mexico from guns
01:10:51
that run by the United States government,
01:10:53
because in theory,
01:10:54
we were actually trying to figure out
01:10:55
what the cartels were up to.
01:10:56
We were actively arming the cartels
01:10:58
through Fast and Furious.
01:10:59
So there's always been
01:11:00
a federal interest in.
01:11:01
It it's been ATF, it's
01:11:02
been FBI and others.
01:11:03
And, you know,
01:11:04
the problem is, is
01:11:05
when you put guns down
01:11:06
into the hands of people in the cartels
01:11:07
and they decide to come across the border
01:11:08
and do violence,
01:11:09
now they're armed with the kind of stuff
01:11:10
that we can buy legally
01:11:12
that they've been able
01:11:13
to traffic the people
01:11:13
and God knows who has them.
01:11:14
And so now you're dealing
01:11:15
with like a potential war zone.
01:11:16
So these guys are run out there
01:11:17
with 50 gals.
01:11:18
I mean, these guys are moving up there
01:11:19
with ease with. And that's a big point.
01:11:23
It's changing what iron sources in D.C.?
01:11:26
Well, it looks like
01:11:27
it's going to be a big difference.
01:11:29
The cartels have been able
01:11:30
to make major upgrades
01:11:31
on all their weapons caches, some of it
01:11:33
some of the weapons that we left behind,
01:11:35
$100 billion were the weapons
01:11:37
we left in Afghanistan.
01:11:38
We've seen them on the dark.
01:11:40
I'm going to show you some images.
01:11:41
We've seen cartel members with U.S.
01:11:44
Darkweb purchases, obviously,
01:11:46
because they've got anti-tank weapons.
01:11:49
We've seen sophisticated sniper systems.
01:11:51
We've seen some of the M force
01:11:52
and some of the other material.
01:11:54
We've seen some of the quad
01:11:55
mono goggles set up.
01:11:56
So $60 night vision set ups,
01:11:59
that's what the cartels,
01:12:01
the whole Cisco has been
01:12:02
one of the
01:12:04
most upgraded of the cartels,
01:12:05
but they're all doing it.
01:12:08
They also have
01:12:09
made inroads because we have identified
01:12:12
plenty of images.
01:12:13
We actually did it on the show here
01:12:14
not too long ago
01:12:15
on South African weapons.
01:12:17
As you know,
01:12:17
South Africa is one of the largest
01:12:19
manufacturers of
01:12:20
kind of third world weaponry.
01:12:22
I don't want to say third
01:12:23
world is not because of the quality,
01:12:24
but they are a big manufacturer
01:12:26
of lots of weapons systems.
01:12:28
And we've now identified
01:12:30
the cartels are showing up
01:12:31
with South Africa
01:12:32
and these are military grade weapons.
01:12:34
So up until now, the US grade weapons
01:12:37
they've been buying
01:12:38
are mostly civilian available.
01:12:40
Whether or not some of them were
01:12:41
or were actually manufactured.
01:12:43
And it's not new to the cartels
01:12:46
having gunsmith, they've always had guns.
01:12:48
That's why you see the gold
01:12:49
plated weapons in that
01:12:50
they've always had guns
01:12:51
to their own teams are fairly exclusive.
01:12:53
It doesn't matter which cartel it is.
01:12:55
They all have their own guys
01:12:56
that do the work.
01:12:57
But what's going on now
01:12:59
is there's evidence
01:13:00
that they've been buying 3D
01:13:01
in 40 million ways,
01:13:04
much like the ghost gunner system
01:13:06
that you guys are seen
01:13:07
for making ghost guns, which everybody
01:13:10
that doesn't know what a ghost gun
01:13:11
is, that's a non serial gun.
01:13:14
Usually the receivers are made
01:13:15
with one of these mills
01:13:16
and then you can easily buy parts.
01:13:18
It's a way to avoid filling out
01:13:20
federal paperwork
01:13:21
and create a weapon
01:13:23
that is
01:13:24
untraceable for the most part,
01:13:26
that's a ghost gunner mill,
01:13:28
but they've actually my sources
01:13:31
indicated that
01:13:31
they have seen Chinese versions of this.
01:13:34
They actually stopped
01:13:35
the sea container that had hundreds
01:13:37
of these units in it.
01:13:40
So so consider this, though,
01:13:41
Like these pipelines exist
01:13:43
and the business of the cartels
01:13:45
is not specific
01:13:46
to any particular product.
01:13:47
It's for illicit demand.
01:13:49
And they're going to meet it
01:13:50
with a supply.
01:13:51
And the Chinese bring in precursors,
01:13:52
whether they be for fentanyl
01:13:54
or for methamphetamines.
01:13:55
It doesn't make a difference.
01:13:56
The Chinese pipeline is already in there.
01:13:58
And if it turns out that
01:13:59
there's a market for guns,
01:14:00
then that's a market for guns.
01:14:01
They can bring precursors to anything.
01:14:03
They can knock off
01:14:04
all the technologies we have,
01:14:05
whether it be 3D mills and so on.
01:14:06
So this is a well-established thing.
01:14:08
Lest anybody
01:14:09
that this makes no sense,
01:14:10
of course
01:14:10
it makes sense
01:14:11
when you're in the business of providing
01:14:12
whatever the demand is,
01:14:14
you just create the supply.
01:14:15
The Chinese
01:14:16
have the supply of everything.
01:14:17
Here's the game plans.
01:14:18
The cartels from the top.
01:14:19
Go ahead, George. I'm sorry.
01:14:21
I just want to add something.
01:14:21
So, guys, this is what I'm buying.
01:14:23
Lance for a stocking stuffer.
01:14:25
Would you guys like one, too?
01:14:26
Because I'll get you one, too.
01:14:27
I'm going to.
01:14:28
Jolene, you're on the dark Web.
01:14:29
Three for one is a better deal
01:14:31
than just buying one at a time.
01:14:32
Yeah, Javelin, in case you need one.
01:14:33
You know, you don't
01:14:34
you don't want to need it
01:14:35
and not have it as all I'm thinking.
01:14:36
Yeah. One, two is one, one is non.
01:14:38
So give me. Although I'll do too.
01:14:40
I don't need to get graded,
01:14:41
I want to carry that around.
01:14:41
I said I'll get you one bro,
01:14:43
I'm got to get one for this.
01:14:44
Even three for.
01:14:45
I heard three was the pricing
01:14:46
was where you get the breakdown so.
01:14:47
Well what about he's right
01:14:49
now Steve
01:14:50
I know Steve wants one
01:14:51
but he doesn't want to say it on air.
01:14:52
A deal.
01:14:53
George thought
01:14:53
maybe you guys should get it for me
01:14:54
for Christmas.
01:14:55
I don't know
01:14:56
that you can offer me 12 for Media 12.
01:14:59
Here's a member of the cartel online.
01:15:03
Yeah, this is.
01:15:04
And this is my point.
01:15:05
And then we're going to go to
01:15:06
where this is leading to.
01:15:08
And then, Jorge, just give me a fast run
01:15:10
Media 13 and 14.
01:15:11
These are more weapons
01:15:12
that came directly off the Darkweb.
01:15:14
These are all been linked
01:15:15
back to the Afghanistan
01:15:17
cache of weapons
01:15:18
that was given to the Taliban
01:15:19
by our current administration.
01:15:22
Is interesting to note, too,
01:15:23
that Barack
01:15:24
Obama's administration was running guns
01:15:26
down to the cartels
01:15:27
from the side
01:15:27
and Obama,
01:15:28
I'm sorry,
01:15:29
than his his predecessor or sorry
01:15:31
his protege comes in afterwards
01:15:32
and decides to leave a bunch
01:15:33
more of them in in Afghanistan
01:15:36
so that the Chinese can reverse engineer
01:15:37
all of our night vision capabilities,
01:15:39
build up some of our weapon capabilities,
01:15:41
you know,
01:15:41
because these things got sold off
01:15:42
right away.
01:15:43
This they didn't
01:15:44
keep all the capabilities
01:15:45
that we had selling off our Blackhawks
01:15:47
or selling off our electronics.
01:15:49
Some of them more functional now not.
01:15:50
But if you think the Chinese couldn't
01:15:51
go through it
01:15:52
and get some value out of it,
01:15:53
like all those things are ITAR controlled
01:15:55
kind of, you know, too.
01:15:57
Did you know they actually left
01:15:59
our entire bag of battlefield
01:16:02
systems over there,
01:16:04
including the planes
01:16:05
and all the hardware? You know, they left
01:16:08
military encrypted radio sets.
01:16:10
I do with the encryption
01:16:11
encryption chips in them.
01:16:13
I did a bunch of stuff
01:16:14
that I gave to the Gateway panel
01:16:15
because I had somebody on the ground
01:16:16
that worked with MI6,
01:16:18
that was on the bridge
01:16:20
and he was on the ground over there.
01:16:22
What I think is interesting
01:16:23
is people don't realize the quality.
01:16:24
Now, here is a whole list Go member.
01:16:27
A lot of people think
01:16:28
the cartels aren't sophisticated.
01:16:29
Here he is wearing jammer.
01:16:31
That's a jammer.
01:16:32
So they're using it.
01:16:33
They're using it on their teams.
01:16:35
And I'm calling them teams
01:16:36
because look at the way that
01:16:37
that individuals equipped
01:16:38
and that's a cartel member.
01:16:39
Look at the guy behind police officer.
01:16:41
Yeah.
01:16:42
So those jammers are
01:16:44
they're sending them in so.
01:16:44
If they're going after another cartel,
01:16:46
they're jamming all their signals
01:16:47
so they can't call out
01:16:48
for reinforcements.
01:16:49
They're also using $35
01:16:53
copper line jammers
01:16:54
that they've armed in their vehicles.
01:16:56
So they're basically jamming
01:16:57
all the signals on their way in
01:16:59
when they're going to hit another cartel.
01:17:01
What's interesting is
01:17:02
the cartels are now that the intel I got
01:17:06
is that they are investing money
01:17:09
with politicians that are anti-gun
01:17:11
and they're long term
01:17:12
game planners hoping the gun
01:17:15
law restrictions
01:17:16
will be increased in the U.S.
01:17:18
They will continue to figure out ways
01:17:20
to not allow us to have our two way right
01:17:24
and they're going to optimize it
01:17:25
in a new financial vertical.
01:17:27
Their plan is to create blocks.
01:17:29
I've got a picture,
01:17:30
Glock, Sears, that were seized down there
01:17:32
that were manufactured by them.
01:17:34
We've seen within Sears
01:17:35
come out of China.
01:17:36
Now they're shipping them
01:17:37
rather than one unit.
01:17:38
They ship them in pieces,
01:17:39
which is very hard
01:17:40
to catch coming through the border.
01:17:42
But it's not only the Chinese.
01:17:43
Obviously,
01:17:44
the parts for guns are still
01:17:45
coming out of the US and China
01:17:46
and potentially South Africa.
01:17:48
It's not like the M16
01:17:49
weapons system hasn't been cloned
01:17:51
by many countries around the world.
01:17:53
It's been out for so long.
01:17:55
But now their plan is,
01:17:56
is to continue to support the politicians
01:17:59
that are anti-gun
01:18:01
in the hopes that they are
01:18:03
successful in stopping it,
01:18:04
because here's their new
01:18:05
income stream vertical.
01:18:06
They've got fentanyl,
01:18:08
carfentanil,
01:18:09
they've got all the other drugs,
01:18:10
you know,
01:18:10
obviously cocaine, methamphetamine.
01:18:13
They've got an amazing,
01:18:15
sophisticated coyote trafficking network.
01:18:18
And now their next vertical
01:18:19
they plan on going to
01:18:20
is actually reversing the of guns
01:18:22
and now reversing the flow
01:18:24
from south
01:18:24
to north
01:18:25
to arm the individuals
01:18:27
that still want guns
01:18:27
on the streets of the U.S.
01:18:29
Assuming that DC is successful
01:18:32
in restrictive gun laws,
01:18:33
how do you like that, Steve?
01:18:37
I don't like it at all, especially
01:18:39
for firearms.
01:18:40
Struck the FBI.
01:18:42
If anybody if you're following me
01:18:44
on social media, on social,
01:18:47
I've hit on these several times.
01:18:50
The fact that we have let in
01:18:51
and my assessment is
01:18:53
I believe this wholeheartedly,
01:18:55
that we we've let in
01:18:56
at least
01:18:57
20 million illegal aliens in the country.
01:19:00
These individuals, a majority of them,
01:19:03
I would say probably
01:19:04
two thirds or more are
01:19:07
military age men
01:19:09
who are going to come out
01:19:11
and they're going to find it,
01:19:12
trying to find a job.
01:19:13
And they're going to realize
01:19:14
that the American dream
01:19:16
isn't what they had dreamed it to be.
01:19:18
And they're going to turn
01:19:19
to a life of crime.
01:19:20
They're to join gangs.
01:19:22
They're going to go out on their own
01:19:23
and they're going
01:19:24
to need weapons to do that.
01:19:25
And they're going to need weapons cheap.
01:19:27
And the cartels
01:19:28
are going to supply
01:19:29
those weapons on the cheap.
01:19:31
And we're going to have
01:19:33
you think we have war zones
01:19:34
now in our cities.
01:19:36
Those war zones are going to break out,
01:19:37
start basically
01:19:39
working their way through the suburbs
01:19:41
where, you know,
01:19:42
you're on your way
01:19:43
to the convenience store
01:19:45
in a safe neighborhood
01:19:46
and a gang war
01:19:48
breaks out on the on the street corner
01:19:50
and saying to yourself,
01:19:52
how could this happen in America?
01:19:54
Well, because you sat on your hands
01:19:55
while 20 million people came
01:19:57
across the border illegally.
01:19:59
We don't know who they are.
01:20:00
We don't what they're about.
01:20:01
We don't know what their past is.
01:20:03
We don't know what diseases
01:20:05
they were carrying.
01:20:07
We needed that.
01:20:08
You know,
01:20:09
we've said this a thousand times
01:20:10
you needed to get a vaccine here.
01:20:13
But anybody could come across the border,
01:20:16
any disease that they were carrying.
01:20:18
Now in New York City,
01:20:20
letting them in the school district,
01:20:22
unvaccinated, Right.
01:20:24
No polio
01:20:25
based on Ben Bergman
01:20:26
and Michael Yon, syphilis, polio,
01:20:30
you know, emphysema is coming up.
01:20:33
I mean, 81 Ben Bergman showed me a bag
01:20:36
he has with 81 different countries IDs
01:20:40
because a lot of them
01:20:40
are throwing their ID away
01:20:41
and they're just giving the information
01:20:43
in any way they want.
01:20:44
81 different countries
01:20:45
invading our border.
01:20:47
And I agree with you,
01:20:47
the military age is an issue
01:20:49
Kyle,
01:20:49
Have you heard about
01:20:50
the transnational gangs
01:20:51
that are actually coming in in groups
01:20:54
to focus on
01:20:55
going into wealthy neighborhoods
01:20:57
to commit burglaries
01:20:58
that hit the news over
01:20:59
the last couple of days?
01:21:01
And these are actual international
01:21:03
these are transnational gangs,
01:21:04
and they're coming as an organized couple
01:21:07
coming over here, a couple over,
01:21:08
and they're reuniting
01:21:09
and they're going into areas in like
01:21:11
Detroit, Michigan,
01:21:12
or other affluent neighborhoods.
01:21:14
And they're specifically
01:21:15
targeting the affluent,
01:21:17
most of them Democrats.
01:21:18
I Guess you get what you vote for.
01:21:19
But Kyle,
01:21:20
have you heard about that, though?
01:21:21
I haven't heard that specifically,
01:21:22
but that's just one more step,
01:21:24
an escalation of what we've been seeing
01:21:25
for a very long time, particularly
01:21:27
when are living up in the,
01:21:28
you know, New England area.
01:21:30
You've got massive amounts of
01:21:31
when we say
01:21:31
transnational organized crimes,
01:21:33
we're talking about
01:21:34
gang syndicates,
01:21:35
whether it be MS13 or llama
01:21:36
or Latin kings, or take your pick.
01:21:38
Many of them are managed
01:21:39
outside the United States.
01:21:40
So that's kind of where
01:21:40
the transnational end of it comes in.
01:21:42
And they do what
01:21:43
organized crime has always done.
01:21:45
They set up affiliates wherever they go.
01:21:46
They have different names.
01:21:47
You're talking about MS13,
01:21:48
which I work a lot.
01:21:49
They call them cliques.
01:21:50
And the cliques go out there.
01:21:51
They have a bunch of
01:21:52
like kind of foot soldier type guys
01:21:53
and they have to live somewhere.
01:21:55
So we would see entire houses rented,
01:21:57
like really nice houses
01:21:58
in nice neighborhoods,
01:21:59
five, six, $700 in a neighborhood
01:22:06
up.
01:22:06
He froze up there.
01:22:07
But the nice part of whatever
01:22:09
that freeze up.
01:22:10
Yeah, you're good. You're back. Okay.
01:22:12
So you'd see some of these
01:22:14
these people living,
01:22:14
like right next door to the McMansions
01:22:16
where someone dropped $1.1 million.
01:22:18
They'd be living out a seventies
01:22:19
sort of rambler.
01:22:20
They'd have 25 families in them.
01:22:22
Some of them are sex slaves.
01:22:23
Some of them are.
01:22:23
They're just making an anchor baby.
01:22:25
Some of them are just living and working
01:22:27
from day to day.
01:22:28
And and some of them are out there
01:22:29
engaged in crime.
01:22:30
We found a top ten most wanted
01:22:32
Texas criminal.
01:22:33
He'd killed a federal informant
01:22:34
shot for the people in Texas,
01:22:36
ran out to Northern Virginia,
01:22:37
and we ended up catching him in a house
01:22:38
with 25 other people in there.
01:22:40
You know,
01:22:40
you've got basically
01:22:41
four families in there living.
01:22:42
And this is common.
01:22:43
So the idea that they would
01:22:44
start burglarizing
01:22:45
these neighborhoods
01:22:46
is totally within the range
01:22:47
of what you would expect
01:22:48
for these types of folks.
01:22:49
They're not doing things that are lawful.
01:22:51
So why would they, like,
01:22:52
inhibit themselves?
01:22:53
And the other thing they're seeing
01:22:54
is that when they keep pushing,
01:22:56
right,
01:22:56
they're not meeting
01:22:57
with forceful resistance.
01:22:59
They're not seeing the full bright,
01:23:00
you know, the might of the FBI
01:23:01
coming to absolutely dismantling
01:23:03
their clinic.
01:23:03
What they're seeing is
01:23:04
the FBI is going after people
01:23:06
that are 65 year old protesters
01:23:08
that happen to take a walk,
01:23:09
an unguided tour of the Capitol.
01:23:10
So they got free rein
01:23:11
because instead of having ten squads
01:23:14
handling these types of guys
01:23:15
and they are guys,
01:23:16
they are military age
01:23:17
males, like Steve just said,
01:23:18
you know, we've got three
01:23:20
or four squads
01:23:20
right now
01:23:21
in the Washington field office
01:23:22
in the nation's capital
01:23:23
that are running down Jay Sixers.
01:23:24
And they have one squad
01:23:26
that's running
01:23:26
after Matt 13 one that's five,
01:23:29
six agents that are doing it.
01:23:30
They run their asses off.
01:23:31
There's no other way around it.
01:23:32
And the people
01:23:33
that could be helping them out
01:23:34
are instead
01:23:35
like trying to figure out
01:23:35
if they can press
01:23:36
trespassing charges
01:23:37
and obstruction charges
01:23:39
on some old lady who's in Alaska.
01:23:40
It's like it's absurd on its face,
01:23:42
but that's what's going on.
01:23:44
And this is the time
01:23:45
that everybody needs to wake up.
01:23:46
This is the unification
01:23:47
and this is the education.
01:23:49
This is the exposing.
01:23:50
We have to make a difference.
01:23:52
And it comes down to us
01:23:53
because there is no white knight
01:23:54
on the horizon.
01:23:55
I want to give both of you guys
01:23:56
an opportunity.
01:23:57
Kyle, where can they find you?
01:23:59
I know you've got a great show
01:24:00
going on, highly successful,
01:24:02
very popular already.
01:24:03
Tell us where they can find you
01:24:04
on social media.
01:24:05
And then, Steve, I'm
01:24:05
going to have you do the same thing.
01:24:06
Where can they find you? Follow you.
01:24:08
You guys put out
01:24:09
lots of great information.
01:24:10
I think you're both well,
01:24:11
the follow
01:24:12
to the big mag subscribers
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follow these guys,
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support them, get the message out.
01:24:20
That's how we're going do this.
01:24:21
We have to keep pushing the information.
01:24:23
Kyle, Go.
01:24:25
So if you want to find me on X and on
01:24:28
True social, that's kind of my big to
01:24:29
as far as the social media platforms,
01:24:31
I'm always the same.
01:24:31
It's at Kyle Serafin.
01:24:33
My last name is C.R.A.
01:24:36
and it's a lot like the angel,
01:24:37
but with an end on the end of it,
01:24:39
that's a
01:24:39
a grandfather for you
01:24:40
who came in from Canada, if you will.
01:24:41
He was a possibly illegal immigrant
01:24:43
at that time, but nobody cared.
01:24:45
Nobody cared. There was no safety net.
01:24:46
If you want to find me
01:24:47
and my ramble show, which we do on at
01:24:49
930 Eastern time, five days a week,
01:24:52
we do that on rumble
01:24:53
dot com slash Kyle Serafin.
01:24:55
So that's pretty easy to find as well.
01:24:56
And you can go back and look and find
01:24:57
it did a great podcast with Steve.
01:24:59
He's been on there at least twice
01:25:01
three times.
01:25:01
He's always got good information there
01:25:03
and he's gotten a lot of chance
01:25:04
to kind of share his backstory
01:25:05
and who he was.
01:25:06
So if you got some curiosity,
01:25:07
you can dig into our archives
01:25:08
and find some. Steve Great. You.
01:25:11
Steve where can they find you?
01:25:13
Tell us.
01:25:13
So on X you can find me at Steve Gray
01:25:17
and J for it's CBT, a Y, and J for
01:25:22
and on truth social
01:25:23
you can get me adjusted at Steve Gray.
01:25:26
I'm sorry
01:25:27
I've kind of drifted away from getter
01:25:30
is a great platform
01:25:32
but I for some reason
01:25:34
I just kind of drifted away from it.
01:25:36
You can still get me there at Steve Gray
01:25:39
and J for as well.
01:25:41
I don't have a podcast.
01:25:43
I you can look up I've done over 64
01:25:45
television interviews.
01:25:47
You can look at me,
01:25:48
look me up on Rumble
01:25:49
and check out those old, old interviews
01:25:52
of me talking about the problems
01:25:54
within the FBI
01:25:54
and what we need to address them.
01:25:56
And yeah, and if you do,
01:25:59
if you haven't heard Kyle show,
01:26:01
he's got a great show.
01:26:02
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01:26:05
to not only tune in to the big, big
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but also the Kyle Show as well.
01:26:08
I really appreciate it.
01:26:09
I want to say thank you, Kyle,
01:26:11
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01:26:12
and giving us as much time as you did.
01:26:13
And thank you, Steve.
01:26:14
I appreciate you coming out
01:26:15
of semi-retirement,
01:26:17
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01:26:19
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