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Igor Lopatonok is an internationally recognized Ukrainian-American film director and producer, celebrated for his bold documentary films that tackle geopolitical and historical subjects. With a career spanning two decades, Lopatonok has built a reputation for compelling storytelling and technical innovation in cinema.
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It's Igor Lapotonic. I hope I got that right.
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Of course I've got. Yeah, I got it right.
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OK, close enough. He's back there cueing me on.
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Now. If you guys remember, we had
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Simona Mangianti Papadopoulos on the show for the Hunter Biden
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documentary. She was great.
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And of course, that is Igor's documentary.
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Let's bring him in, George. And I'm going to give his bio
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wife in here. I don't want to leave him
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backstage any longer than I have to all.
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Right. Welcome to the big, big show,
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Igor. I'm not going to pronounce your
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name until I hear you fully say it.
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Hello, Igor. That's OK.
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Thank you for having me. Nice to meet you guys.
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Yeah, and of course, Igor is an internationally recognized
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Ukrainian American film director and producer, celebrated for his
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bull documentary films and of course tackle geopolitical and
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historical subjects. He's got a career spanning 2
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decades and has built a reputation for compelling
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storytelling and technical innovation in cinema.
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Widely known for his collaboration with Oscar winning
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film maker Oliver Stone. You know, we had Oliver Stone's
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son on the show. Eager.
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I don't know if you knew that or not.
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He's brought an alternative perspective on global events to
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international audiences. Documentaries have achieved
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worldwide distribution and critical attention.
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Of course, they positioned him as a leading voice in
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politically charged, history driven film making.
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So Igor, man, there's a lot of people around you that we seem
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to know. Of course, Simona is one of our
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close friends. George Papadopoulos, close
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friend. Transform also my close friend
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because we we finished with him Big 6 episodes of all the
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President's Men doco series, what is available on the Tucker
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Castle network and many others. Yeah, that's a great
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documentary. I've seen it.
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You know, of course you've been doing some amazing work.
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But let's, let's go back a little bit.
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What you know, I don't know when you became a film maker, you've
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been in for two decades at least on the politically driven film
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making. But were you always interested
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in filming with this start early in childhood?
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Where does the where does the whole story with Igor becoming a
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film guy start? Oh, I I started studying rocket
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science after that. Go to the big business.
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Go and work for government, make good money in the big business
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business. And in 2005 I was so bored about
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that making the money because it's actually pointless
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occupation. So I decided to switch to the
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movie making from the scratch. I have no degree in the movie
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making. And so far as 59 successfully
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accomplished projects, we start doing both equipment cameras, we
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start renting them TV series, advertisement, commercial music
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video films, films for TV, films for the big screen and 2008.
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Look, the son asked me what I'm doing in Ukraine and said I'm
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doing movie look, it's obvious that no bullshit, there is no
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movies in Ukraine. You need to move US in LA.
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So I I did as advised and Los Angeles also was welcoming
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place. I did a lot of movies related to
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restoration and colorization of black and white famous solid
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films and after that in to do couple of features.
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In 2013, I met Oliver Stone and I was successfully with locking
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him for my project as a producer, executive producer.
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And he forced me to direct Ukrainian Fire, what is my so
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far biggest movie. I, I probably can say 600
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million audience around the world and still fresh, still,
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still gaining interest. That's a good achievement.
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And he forced me to direct and I was not a director.
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I'm not ready for that. He said, OK, you're passionate
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about Ukraine, you know more than 10 times so you're going to
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do I will help and he helped a lot.
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And from this time until now, he helping me the movie what we
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were gonna talking about the Iran the great game when I
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screened it to Oliver, he said, oh, come on, dude, I expected
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something better from you. What a mess you did.
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So nobody gonna buy it not gonna nobody gonna distribute nobody
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gonna see that you need to do that that and this because this
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is a mistakes You said, oh, you got your bad student.
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You don't study anything from 12 years.
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But no, he just, he just keep caring about me, keep teaching
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me. That's a very big deal for me.
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And yeah, I did ask. He advised the movie increase
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the value. It's better than before.
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So this is that my short short buyer.
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Well, that's, you know, that's an incredible critique.
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First of all, that Oliver Stone has that kind of confidence in
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you #1 cause of course he's a great film maker, had so many
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incredible films. But it's also got to be a tough
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blow when the when your mentor says this, this, I expected
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better of you. Yeah, of course.
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Every time. Every time, yeah.
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That's got to be pretty tricky, but let let's back up for a
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minute. Let's talk about some of the
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stuff that you did complete. So colorizing these old the 13
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different Soviet era films, including old men and are going
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to battle. You did a lot of the the
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classics, at least for the the the Russians.
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How many languages do you speak, Igor?
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I speak 3 languages. I speak Russian, bad English and
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Ukrainian. Betting.
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I speak I'm. From I'm from Ford and Road in
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the Bronx. George and I speak bad English
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also, just so you know. We also.
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Speak. I'm apologizing about my accent,
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but I believe that American, American love the accent because
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it's making like, you know, but the English less boring.
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Yeah. There's no doubt, although the
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guys in New York, we all have our, you know, we have the, the
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New Yorkers do have our own accent.
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And of course, the Southerners, a lot of people, when I've
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travelled around the globe, people, you know, even when I
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think that I don't have much of A New York accent anymore, they
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immediately recognize the New York acts.
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And of course, New Yorkers are a different breed, not like the
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ones now. Let me say this.
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I'm talking about the older New Yorkers, not these current New
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Yorkers that I don't understand at all.
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I don't know what the hell happened in New York.
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But I was fascinated when I find out that's a 150 dialects in
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English and that's that's so big, so big, so different.
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Yeah, it's, it's funny. Well, you know, of course George
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grew up in New Jersey and New Jersey and New York, and I grew
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up in New York, Fordham Rd. in the Bronx and later Westchester
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County. And of course we have our own
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slang and lingo. But, you know, I think it's true
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of every, you know, this course, it doesn't matter whether you're
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Ukrainian or otherwise. Everybody has kind of their own
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slangs they use that people are used to that isn't necessarily
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translated well if you're actually studying a language.
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You also did 3D effects to The Nutcracker.
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That's 2010. But let me let's dig in here for
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a minute. I want to talk about Ukraine on
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fire. That's a that's.
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That's a major film for you, so maybe give the audience for the
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people out there that don't know much about that film, maybe kind
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of describe what it's about and then the follow up film also, I
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think. That's very that's very good
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movie to understand where and why war in Ukraine raging now.
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So you start with Ukraine on fire because everybody the
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mainstream narrative is completely wrong about Ukraine
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and as as a Ukrainian himself to give to Americans a historical
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perspective of everything what's happened in Ukraine in 2014 and
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before, because all my starting in the coup in Kiev in 2014.
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That's an anatomy of this coup and the attempt to present to
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audience alternative to mainstream version of events
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with a very high flying politicians commenting,
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especially ex president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych who
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was on Iran to Moscow and the President of Russia Vladimir
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Putin. That's what Oliver interview
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both and give to film very unique insights from the people
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who was involved in decision making about everything what's
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happened in Ukraine 2014 and after that we we also did a
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great analysis with the help of Robert Perry, who was amazing
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investigative journalist. If you remember Robert Perry, he
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broke that Iran Contras the case and exposed the CIA importing
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the drugs and financing the and the trading with Iran and
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financing the Arabian and the Nicaragua.
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So this was my mentors in that film.
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That was my how to say the keystone, the people who
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understand the situation better and who give that analysis to
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the audience. And after that we film
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underground in Ukraine. We cannot stop doing this film.
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We we do it from November 2013 up to June of 2022 thousand
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2016. And I understand I cannot finish
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the movie. I need just to end it.
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I just need to stop working on this and just release because
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yeah, because everything was I'm going, I'm going, I'm going
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just, you know, the coup happened after that Crimea run
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away after that, that they start war and Donbass after that, that
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they shut down the plane and it's, you know, always rolling
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like a snowball and that snowball, especially in the
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media when they start blaming Russia for everything.
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Russia do that. Russia do this and I see I say I
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I I look on this with a yeah with a sense of shock because I
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know that people is not a good people who is leading protest.
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I know that people so hypocritical.
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They killed protesters on the streets of Kiev.
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They owned guys protesters in the back just to ignite their
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their appraisal. And it's war.
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And that's a cold strategy of color revolution, of course.
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And we analyzed that. We we trace the money in the
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media. We trace and it's up to audience
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to decide if we we are applying the position of Victoria Luland
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and Ambassador Jeffrey Pyatt in this club, how they help, how
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they finance what the Soros, George Soros done for that so.
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Let me stop you there for a minute because you're hitting on
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a lot of topics for our show. Just, you know, nobody's safe on
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this show, meaning that we go after all sides of the aisle.
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We don't just blindly follow. George, you'd agree to this.
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We're not yes men on this show, correct?
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Oh, I'm definitely not a yes man.
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I know that I don't yes men to anybody or nobody.
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Only God. Only God will be a yes men too.
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God of my savior, Jesus Christ. Yeah, as a as an example, we're
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still talking about Epstein. We're not happy about what how
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this administration is treating the Epstein.
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You know what though? No one else is talking about
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Epstein since the shutter of the government though.
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Yeah, they're getting. Very interesting, of course, you
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know. But Igor, let me ask you this
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because a lot of people want to know.
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You know, we've talked about, I was always impressed that Simona
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was able to interview Dirchak. I thought he was dead.
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I thought the CIA, he disappeared for a while and I
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actually thought the CIA had killed him.
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And I, I worked as a government contractor years ago.
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I worked for, you know, Blackwater USA and Halliburton
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and United Defence, the Sabre and lots of others.
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And I was always aware of the fact that the CIA was definitely
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entrenched into, you know, lots of things overseas.
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So let me ask you this. Who's really responsible for
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what happened in Ukraine? Because we know the narrative's
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been manipulated. And we know that George Soros,
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in my opinion, he's an international.
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Him and his son are international terrorists.
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I don't think you know, Russia took a strong position on them
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because they're obviously fully aware of what Soros is up to.
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Who do you think is really responsible for the chaos and
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corruption in Ukraine? Because I even to date, and you
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may not feel like this. I don't know, I feel to date
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George, you tell me you if you agree or not.
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I don't know how you feel about this.
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I feel like Zelensky was just an installed puppet by the CIA.
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I believe he was it was George. What do you think?
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Yes. Stop.
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I don't know if he's an install puppet by the CIA, but he's just
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in it just for the taking the money.
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He's corrupted. Could be the CIA, I don't know.
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You know what, Lance? That's a good one.
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So I want to ask you. I'm.
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Going to let you go? I want to ask you.
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This I have an answer. For you on this show, we've
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exposed all the money that of course he bought that ski in ski
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out resort in France. He bought his wife a 4.6 million
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a dollar Bugatti. He's got the eight and a half
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million dollar property in Ridgepont, Israel with a bunch
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of exotic cars for his family members, him and his hench men.
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They invested 46 million in properties in Switzerland.
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He's got a $15 million penthouse in Dubai.
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He's got that mansion down in Miami that everybody tries to
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hide, but it does exist. I don't know if he sold it now.
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He had a property in Italy that he sold.
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And of course, I've been told that he has a exceeding $1.6
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billion in offshore accounts down in the Caribbean.
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So you take it from there. That's what I'm aware of.
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And I've gotten that from what I consider very reliable sources,
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some of them within the NSA that are friends of mine.
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So go ahead, take it from there. So who is responsible for that
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mess? First of all, Ukrainians
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themselves because corrupted politician and opposition to
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President Yanukovych who want more, who want money because
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they know that position of President of Ukraine provide you
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a place to 5 billion revenue a year.
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This is how corrupted Ukraine is.
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They measuring position of president of the state in the
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amount of money what is give to them.
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And so first of all it's corrupted politicians in
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Ukraine. I can call the names, I can call
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President Poroshenko, I can call the mayor of Kiev Klitschko and
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I can call neo Nazi leader of party Sloboda who I even just
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just forget his name. That was the key people, but
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they were supported and this is very important for us.
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Who was providing that support. First of all, that was the
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Embassy of United States and official position of Ambassador
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Jeffrey Pyatt and Under Secretary of State for European
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Affairs Victoria Nolan and couple of very, very big medals
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like on the top was the George Soros as well as the Russian
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oligarch Berezovsky before. So this is a gang of people who
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want to helping Democrats because it was very You cannot
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call Victoria Nolan Democrat. She is a deep state, but she is
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a bird from the Dick Cheney nest because she started her career
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as a as a CIA agent, trained in Russian language, spending some
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time in Russia and understanding the enemy and after that
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carefully planning and executing plan to diminish the Russia.
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Why Victoria Nuland have something I believe personal
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against Russia. You need to study her past.
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She understand how she is a nurse, it's not real name, not
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Nolan, but Noodleman and studied her in details.
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You will understand that Toria the terrible, how they call her
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in the in the inner circle nurse from the very, very close circle
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of Dick Cheney, whom you know. And that said a lot of yeah, a
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lot. I'm not a fan of Dick Cheney.
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This show is not a fan of Dick Cheney.
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But I believe no one saying can be a fan of Dick Cheney or
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Victoria Nolan or George Soros. Because if you see, if you look
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at these people, you understand you have impersonated evil in
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front of you. Because covering the actions
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with very nice rhetoric, they person the goal of personal
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power disruption. And they don't care about how
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many, how much blood they're going to spill.
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They want to pursue their goals. They started with this story,
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started with the bombing of Yugoslavia, Serbia in 1999 and
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person that agenda of liberal interventions.
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So we decided you're doing bad with your people, so we're going
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to bomb you people for that. This is how bad is started and
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it's keep going and going and going and unfortunately that's
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lead us on the edge of abyss of thermonuclear war with Russia.
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What will be disaster for Russia of course, but will be also
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killing us and destroying our beautiful planet.
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This is why I cannot stand the wall of the lie.
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What is pushing in the in the mind of Americans and others.
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I try to do something what I can to educate and enlight.
00:20:58
And 1st, my tool is a history. You know we're talking about
00:21:01
CIA. Exposing is all part of that,
00:21:04
right? And you've been, and that's why
00:21:06
I'm asking you some of these questions, because if anybody
00:21:08
knows, it's probably you because you follow the same model we do.
00:21:12
The idea is to put the light on it, to educate people so there's
00:21:15
unification and to get the real truth out there.
00:21:18
You know, one of the hot topics when we talk about Derkash,
00:21:22
right? And we talk about him being
00:21:24
indicted by the DOJ. That indictment's still pending,
00:21:27
of course, and it's a cover up. In my opinion.
00:21:32
It's a major cover up. Ukraine was a major money
00:21:35
laundering operation. Even now, many of the weapons
00:21:39
that we shipped to Ukraine, stupidly during the Biden
00:21:42
administration, those have ended up on the dark web.
00:21:45
They've been resold, they've been sold and they've been
00:21:48
available to cartels have have taken advantage of that
00:21:51
opportunity between the mistakes that the US government made and
00:21:55
leaving all those weapons behind and equipment in Afghanistan.
00:21:59
Of course, the cartels have been extremely well funded because of
00:22:01
the human trafficking. But the stories about Ukraine,
00:22:04
you know, the early on, maybe it was when it first came out, we
00:22:09
were covering because we had a pretty good source.
00:22:10
We were covering all the bio labs and what had happened with
00:22:14
the Department of Defense and how they had funded those bio
00:22:16
labs all around there. What are your thoughts on
00:22:20
Burisma, another very hot topic in Ukraine?
00:22:23
The the the US government, of course, during Biden tried to
00:22:26
discredit that story. I believe it's factual.
00:22:29
I believe that many people, including the children of many
00:22:32
of our government officials benefited from the Burisma money
00:22:36
and a lots of other things related to that.
00:22:38
And of course, they did everything they could.
00:22:40
Biden was very vocal about getting the prosecutor fired.
00:22:44
He made a big deal about that. What are your thoughts?
00:22:46
Is Burisma? Are the American people that
00:22:49
they've been lied to about Burisma?
00:22:51
I did couple of movies on the top subject.
00:22:53
The first time I mentioned Burisma in 2019 when Amar film
00:22:57
revealed in Ukraine when we interviewed Rizola Stone, leader
00:23:01
of opposition politician in Ukraine, Viktor Madrichuk.
00:23:05
And when we talk about Burisma and we talk about how Ukrainians
00:23:09
meddling in the election of 2016 in here in the United States and
00:23:14
how Biden was firing the prosecutor general shocking in
00:23:18
Ukraine for for for catching their tail Burisma Brown doing
00:23:24
going after his son. After that we did we dedicate
00:23:28
full film to that. We talk about this in the
00:23:32
Ukraine 30 years of independence when the Simonam and Jiantha
00:23:35
Serbia as an interviewer and she interviewed a lot of politician
00:23:38
included of their catch in Ukraine and including of
00:23:41
President Yushchenko. And in 2024 we released another
00:23:46
film, what's called Panther's laptop, Requiem for Ukraine.
00:23:50
Why is Requiem for Ukraine? Because who is suffering this?
00:23:55
The Biden family made them rich, but the price was paid by
00:24:00
innocent Ukrainians who was slaughtered for that.
00:24:03
And This is why dead Biden is family is a criminal gang and I
00:24:08
believe still need to be prosecuted because as a lesson
00:24:11
to everybody who is selling the office of presidency of United
00:24:16
States for money for the small money.
00:24:18
It's not such a big money comparing to the power what the
00:24:22
White House possess. That's millions.
00:24:25
It's just nuts. Nothing but they did it and they
00:24:28
walk away with that murder. They it's unbelievable how
00:24:34
reckless that was action and how reckless that actions of this
00:24:38
family endanger just the regular Americans because we don't
00:24:43
deserve it. We actually, I strongly believe
00:24:47
in that. We position it as a strategic
00:24:51
allies with Russia because Russia was laying Asia and
00:24:54
Europe, but possess the mental values, values, European values,
00:25:00
Western values. That's a perfect bridge for us
00:25:03
to establish understandable communication to China because
00:25:07
they lay in the Asia. So Russia can be a bridge of
00:25:10
United States to China. That's a way how we can
00:25:13
collaborate. Instead of that, we are running
00:25:16
the proxy war in Ukraine. We still involved in that and
00:25:19
even I want to say that's when Donald Trump, whom I admire,
00:25:24
whom I wought 3 times for him and elections here, he still
00:25:30
trying to position himself. This is not my war, this is
00:25:33
Biden war. I am OK with that.
00:25:35
But let's don't forget as a president of United States, he
00:25:39
is responsible for everything, for every human being living
00:25:42
here. You know, this is a lack of debt
00:25:44
responsibility in a Mr. Zelanski position because he don't care
00:25:47
about Ukrainians. First of all, he is like, you
00:25:50
know, he's not Ukrainian, he's a Jewish.
00:25:52
Second, he don't believe in God. Let's provide him money, and
00:25:56
even the money not only for his pocket and the pockets of
00:25:59
corrupted Democrats whom he's sending kickbacks back to the
00:26:02
United States, but for European. Hold that thought.
00:26:07
I'm going to stop you there. I.
00:26:09
Caught that too. Let's, George, I'll let you ask
00:26:12
the question because you, you, you, you popped out.
00:26:14
I think it's just a second before I did.
00:26:17
When you just mentioned Ukrainians bring giving
00:26:20
kickbacks to the United States, well, there's been some
00:26:23
investigations that that, you know, aid that we were sending
00:26:27
there was being funneled back even through like Act Blue, one
00:26:32
of them, I believe going back to kickbacks to politicians.
00:26:36
So what? What do you have on this?
00:26:38
And what and what politicians can you name?
00:26:40
Because we want to hear names, Igor.
00:26:42
Because at the end of the day, that's what our show is about.
00:26:44
Just like you, we want to expose the truth.
00:26:46
Because I agree with you, let me preface this question.
00:26:49
I think that that that story has been covered up, that Derkash is
00:26:54
still under indictment because I that makes the DOJ complicit.
00:26:58
I believe it's the Department of Injustice in many ways.
00:27:00
I'm not a fan of Pam Bondi. I don't think she's moving
00:27:02
rapidly enough and I don't think she's doing what she was hired
00:27:06
to do. In my opinion, which of course,
00:27:08
I voted for transparency, accountability and consequences.
00:27:12
The story about Zelensky, here's this guy who who's been known to
00:27:17
dress up and drag play a piano with his penis supposedly for
00:27:22
for a comedic effect. And all of a sudden he ends up
00:27:26
as president of Ukraine. There's lots of dark ties to the
00:27:29
CIA, The money laundering that has been a talk of topic that's
00:27:33
come up over and over and over again.
00:27:35
So give me names. What, what, what?
00:27:38
Whether the Democrats or Republicans, I don't care.
00:27:39
You can put them on how many and who?
00:27:42
Who is getting money as kickbacks?
00:27:44
Who do you believe anyway? And do you have anything to back
00:27:47
it up? Any facts?
00:27:49
Let me let. Me explain you how it's work
00:27:53
when the Russians trying to invite in Ukraine already start
00:27:58
invasion in Ukraine on February 22, 2022 Yeah that the landscape
00:28:05
and his gang cashed out 1 of bitcoins through
00:28:10
that money laundering through Iran and United Arab Emirates
00:28:15
into the United States. Dollar cash in was ready to run
00:28:18
away because they was afraid they will be like Russian troops
00:28:22
in Kiev in a few days. So that's how rich they was
00:28:27
before more than $1 billion in cash was cashed out right on the
00:28:32
day of invasion. But later later that was a
00:28:38
scheme what they doing they using that program in Ukraine
00:28:43
that's called big big construction.
00:28:48
It's close closest translation like our build better under the
00:28:53
Biden. What is so they use this program
00:28:57
to money launder the money and to use this money for first of
00:29:01
all for promotion and the publicity they own.
00:29:05
So they paying? Was BlackRock involved?
00:29:08
At that point, because I know BlackRock has made a bunch of
00:29:10
deals over in Ukraine, give me a Is BlackRock involved in this?
00:29:14
I'm very. Precise investigative journalist
00:29:18
on this subject. I never claim anything what I
00:29:21
don't have a solid proof as a as a we asked that question to
00:29:26
Vladimir Putin in 2019. Did Ukrainians meddle an
00:29:30
American policy? He said for sure, but this is
00:29:32
not a secret and I cannot say the names because if I will say
00:29:37
the names, I need to provide the papers.
00:29:39
So this is what I'm doing. I put the name say allegedly.
00:29:43
Hold. On you can put.
00:29:45
Type the names in the chat over to me privately in the chat on
00:29:48
Zoom and I'll say the names. Yeah, names.
00:29:52
Names is very obvious because you need to possess some
00:29:56
intellectual capacity to understand who is benefiting
00:29:59
from that and who is mostly vocal on that.
00:30:02
So I can say the names. First of all, George Soros, he's
00:30:06
having kickbacks because his way of operation was all the time
00:30:11
meddling politics and the money and he was reimbursed for every
00:30:16
actions what he did to ignite the color revolutions abroad
00:30:21
from State Department. So George Soros was paid back
00:30:25
for that. Second names everybody
00:30:27
politicians who backing up our endless war strategy, starting
00:30:33
with the Lindsey Graham before that, that was a Senator McCain.
00:30:37
And after that you can call every parking sorry name of
00:30:40
people who were mongering who trying to always go much tougher
00:30:45
and put it let's deliver tomahawk, let's deliver that
00:30:48
that that's people all the people on the top of the list.
00:30:52
I'm afraid that list is very big.
00:30:54
The list is very long because everybody who is benefiting from
00:30:58
oh, ask, answer the question, ask you this, how do you think
00:31:02
they did? It did they use Bitcoin?
00:31:04
Did they use cryptocurrency wallets?
00:31:06
Did they use cash? We've heard some stories about
00:31:09
cash that we never were able to validate.
00:31:11
How do you think that? What was the conduit to pay
00:31:13
these people? So let's say they wanted to kick
00:31:15
back money to Lindsey Graham. Did George Soros do it through
00:31:18
political contributions to Lindsey Graham?
00:31:20
Or do you think there was a more nefarious pathway?
00:31:23
Because when it comes to money laundering, you know, having
00:31:26
worked as a government contractor, of course money
00:31:28
laundering is a standard operating procedure.
00:31:30
When you're in these different operations, you have to get the
00:31:32
money to certain sources. Sometime it turns out to be
00:31:35
cash. Sometimes it's done through
00:31:36
different conduits, multinational banks, shell
00:31:40
companies. What do you think the process
00:31:42
was? Any concept?
00:31:44
I know that's some people. Is very open.
00:31:46
For example, Mike Pompeo, he's taking the bribes from Victor
00:31:51
Pinchuk, Ukrainian oligarch through his associate company in
00:31:56
a in a mobile phone. He's receiving just a 1
00:31:59
plus something per year. But he not in a position already
00:32:03
in the government, so he taking this as a current citizen.
00:32:05
This is no crime in debt cryptocurrency.
00:32:08
Of. Course and especially if they
00:32:10
already buried the people they already bankrupted the company.
00:32:13
It takes what was involved in the initial money laundering
00:32:17
scheme. So they're using all possible
00:32:20
things they careful, but Zelensky name continuously
00:32:23
popping up in other and other kind of how the investigation of
00:32:29
money laundering and scam. For example, in the Panama paper
00:32:35
what even that was done by OCCRP who is outlet of Soros in CIA.
00:32:40
But they they find out that Zelenski also has accounts and
00:32:44
and and the Bagamas in the whole area.
00:32:47
That's right. But I believe they much more
00:32:50
invent inventive in this. I believe they're using crypto
00:32:53
and they probably using couple of associates that you will
00:32:56
never see the name of Zelenski. You will never see you see all
00:32:59
the names what will tell you nothing because this is a cover
00:33:02
up. This is how money laundering is.
00:33:04
But the guy who was paid for Zelensky campaign, Igor
00:33:09
Kolomoisky, he's investigated by FBI in a money laundering of
00:33:14
more than 800 billions in the United States.
00:33:17
Can you imagine how that how massive this money laundering
00:33:21
operation is if this was done even before when Zelensky come
00:33:26
to power? This is what's happened to to
00:33:29
the money laundering operations. I believe that FBI have a lot of
00:33:33
information on this, including the names of American politician
00:33:37
and I strongly believe that sooner or later question.
00:33:41
That ashes. I'm going.
00:33:42
To interrupt you. Have you ever, and I don't know
00:33:45
if you can say it or not as the our current administration
00:33:49
through the FBI or even Pam Bondi, has anybody ever
00:33:52
attempted because you are a a massive Trevor treasure trove of
00:33:57
information. Has anybody contacted you or
00:34:00
interviewed you or asked for information for you to kind of
00:34:03
walk them through things that you can't see on the show?
00:34:06
Just I was. Contacted on a day of
00:34:08
inauguration of Biden by two nice agents from FBI knocking at
00:34:12
my door and start asking the questions about Russian
00:34:14
influence in United States. I said I'm sorry guys, I know
00:34:18
little about Russian influence but I know a lot about
00:34:20
Ukrainian. Take your notes and I start
00:34:23
saying the American what I know. So yeah, FBI was given, but that
00:34:27
was under Biden. So that that that information
00:34:30
probably ended up in some burn bags, my guess based on the way
00:34:34
they operated. But I'm talking about the
00:34:35
current administration. I'm talking about Cash Patel,
00:34:39
Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino supposedly.
00:34:42
I'm talking about Radcliffe, you know, the people that supposedly
00:34:46
would be the individuals that would want to get to the bottom
00:34:49
of this. Have you been, has anybody made
00:34:51
any attempt to interview you or talk to you?
00:34:54
No. Answer is no even even I know
00:34:57
personally Kesh Patel. We interview him for all the
00:35:00
President's men and I was accused by that not David Korn
00:35:06
and Rachel Maddow to bribe in Kesh Patel when my company
00:35:10
American company fully officially openly paid 25K
00:35:14
compensation for cash time spending an hour set.
00:35:18
Yeah, hold on for a second. Hold on right there because
00:35:20
we've got. To take a short commercial
00:35:22
break. I already went over the break
00:35:23
because you've got a lot of information and I'm trying to
00:35:26
get to the bottom. Of course, we hear a lot of
00:35:27
things from our sources. All right, listen, the big, big
00:35:30
show is going to take a short break.
00:35:31
We'll be back with Igor. You don't want to miss any of
00:35:34
this stuff. We're we're digging in now, so
00:35:36
you know how that goes. At the end of the day, baby, tip
00:35:39
of the spear, George Valentine, myself, Lance Miliacea, and of
00:35:42
course, Igor coming back at you. I don't want to butcher his
00:35:46
name, so I'm going to leave that.
00:35:48
You're not going to want to miss a minute of this interview.
00:35:50
We're we're going all in. Stay tuned.
00:35:52
We'll be right back. I want those names.
00:35:54
Write them. Down.
00:35:54
Yeah, we're naming names, baby. We're naming names, all right.
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I couldn't get them. I'm sorry.
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So, Lance, that's on you. All right, Igor, what do we got?
00:41:54
We need names, dates, places so we can go after and.
00:41:59
Listen and let me. Add this to it.
00:42:01
Igor what? About the mainstream media, were
00:42:02
you able to paper trail any money trails to any of these?
00:42:05
Because we've seen it through USAID.
00:42:07
How much money got funneled to social media influencers,
00:42:10
celebrities, NPRPBS? So many places got money in
00:42:15
court. Not the right, not the
00:42:16
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00:42:20
sources. Do we able to paper trail any of
00:42:21
those groups also I believe? That a big danger in this this
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00:42:33
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00:42:37
influencers, media themselves and a key point people.
00:42:44
And that's so dangerous because this is actually on the level of
00:42:48
warfare. This is a weapon.
00:42:50
This weapon was designed to fight the war informational war
00:42:55
as a part of hybrid war in a contemporary contemporary
00:42:59
warfare and they use it against American people.
00:43:03
Of course it's a crime. Of course it's have a trails
00:43:06
because you know, footprints and the snow all time exist.
00:43:10
Money is not things, money is making footprints.
00:43:14
So tracing that money is a dangerous things.
00:43:17
It's not my first goal. My first goal is to make a movie
00:43:21
and to educate the people. But from time of making this
00:43:26
films, we see a lot of a lot of hard die hard evidences about
00:43:35
the criminal actions of people who was involved.
00:43:39
And what strike me is even more important than the list of
00:43:43
names, because you know, you already know that names exactly
00:43:48
same people who was conspiring against President Trump in his
00:43:53
2016 first term. That's exactly same people who
00:43:57
organized the war and run the war in Ukraine and who backing
00:44:01
up Zelanski now. So this is the same gang so that
00:44:05
the coup in United States and war in Ukraine, that's
00:44:08
interconnected like that. And this is a big question.
00:44:13
I think the Americans need to understand that when the names
00:44:19
look at George Soros, names like Lindsey Graham next, like
00:44:24
Victoria Noland on the top of that list, and it's a long list.
00:44:28
I I don't know if we have a time to go through every details,
00:44:32
every evidence. This is the big, big show.
00:44:34
You are we make time. We don't, we don't have no.
00:44:37
Time. Constraints on us, so their
00:44:39
strategy. Is lying, lying, denying,
00:44:43
counter attacking, lying again and make it in such a fast pace
00:44:47
what audience is completely continuously interrupted,
00:44:51
distracted and the attention of media circle driven from to the
00:44:57
different subject. So what you're saying is a.
00:44:59
Typical politician. We got that.
00:45:02
Yeah, that's a. Strategy of informational
00:45:06
operational influence. This is how they do they
00:45:10
organize in the orchestra information.
00:45:13
Warfare, of course, controlling the narrative.
00:45:16
They create a false narrative and then they perpetuate the
00:45:19
narrative from consistent lying. They always say the best lies
00:45:22
are those lies that are intertwined with shreds of
00:45:24
truth. You take a shred of truth, you
00:45:26
wrap it in a really sophisticated lie, and then you
00:45:29
market that lie using mainstream media, using paid operatives,
00:45:33
using the intelligence apparatus, using international
00:45:36
press, all manipulated and paid for.
00:45:39
But let's talk about that. I'm going to switch gears with
00:45:42
you here because I want to talk about Iran, the great game.
00:45:45
This is your new documentary. You are rewriting the story of
00:45:49
the US Iran conflict. I know a lot of details about
00:45:52
that. At the end of the day, I
00:45:55
understand what's happened in the Middle East, maybe more so
00:45:58
than others. Let's talk about what you've
00:46:00
done here because this is a big deal.
00:46:04
This film is wrapped up. I think it's available now.
00:46:06
I don't know. Let's talk about why you did
00:46:09
this and what the real story is behind it and what people can
00:46:12
expect to find out. What are you exposing in this
00:46:15
film, first of all? I start making that movie when I
00:46:20
understand that Donald Trump projected to win election.
00:46:25
In my mind, this happened in 2023-2024.
00:46:29
I was already in full gear working on this film.
00:46:33
And the biggest problem for him and the foreign policy will be
00:46:36
Ukraine, what we covered pretty much, and Iran, because sooner
00:46:42
or later they will run him inside of this war.
00:46:46
What we don't need. And I try to educate American
00:46:49
people about what has really happened with Iran, why Iranians
00:46:54
do not trust United States, why we blame Iran for everything bad
00:47:00
possible, like, you know, making the perfect villain and what is
00:47:04
the real history behind of that. So I go to Iran.
00:47:08
It was not so dangerous as I expected before.
00:47:13
They very, very warm people. They gentle, they the culture is
00:47:17
so different. It was very hard to penetrate.
00:47:21
But I did the movies in Asia before the Western Asia is very
00:47:25
special specific place. So I travelled the country, I
00:47:29
filmed A tag around filming the Jans province and Isfahan and
00:47:34
Shiraz and all over Iran, omances.
00:47:39
And after that I interview people here it is my teacher
00:47:44
Oliver Stone feels because he know a lot about Alexander the
00:47:48
Great invasion in Persia in the in late 4 and the Jeffrey Sox
00:47:56
who know who running the foreign policy of United States about
00:48:01
Iran. Of course it's Israel.
00:48:03
And also I speak to a very nice fine English gentleman, Alistair
00:48:09
Crook, who was a British diplomat and MI 6 for 30 years.
00:48:13
I was about to say MI 6. The MI 6.
00:48:17
Very small. Can I ask you a question?
00:48:18
Was he? Involved in the 1953 CI AM I6
00:48:22
orchestrated coup, which of course reinstalled the Shah of
00:48:25
Iran. Was he part of that?
00:48:27
I don't think so, no. I think that his biggest, his
00:48:32
biggest achievement was setting up the negotiation first
00:48:39
negotiation face to face and sitting around the one table
00:48:43
Hamas people and Mossad people. So this is his achievement, but
00:48:47
he was, I believe on this time, not already on the MI 6.
00:48:51
He's not more than diplomacy. He was not involved in a shock
00:48:55
because it was a little bit early 1953.
00:48:59
We touched this in my film. By the way, film is available on
00:49:02
Amazon Prime and everybody who want to see that and also on the
00:49:06
Salem Salem Now Network. So just hit the button on the
00:49:10
Amazon Prime Video, hit the Iran the Great Game and you will see
00:49:14
the film. It's two hours.
00:49:16
It's take 2 1/2 years to to make it and this is attempt to
00:49:21
analyse not only current affairs of United States and Iran, what
00:49:28
is actually rebalancing on the age of war.
00:49:32
This is a state of affair and but also 5000 years of history
00:49:36
of Iran and the history why we call it Great game because how
00:49:42
the great game is played by peril Britain and peril Russia
00:49:46
on the territory of Asia for access to India.
00:49:50
That was a very interesting historical subject.
00:49:54
But as Alistair tell me Igor grand game is over.
00:49:59
They desperate for one goal they diminish the goal of great game
00:50:02
to the one goal take off the Trump was surprising me.
00:50:08
We sitting in Tiger and hotel and and keep saying me so the
00:50:13
goal of great game in Europe is just one goal take off the Trump
00:50:18
why because Trump doing something what is not fitting
00:50:23
that scenario of endless war and I'm this film is education for
00:50:29
American audience about Iran. Of course, it's impossible to
00:50:32
tell the story of 5000 years in the in the two hours impossible
00:50:37
completely, no doubt. Let me hold you there.
00:50:39
I want. To play the trailer and then
00:50:40
hold that thought, I want you to come right back in.
00:50:42
I want the audience to see the trailer so they can get a feel
00:50:45
for what you're doing here. How long has this been out,
00:50:47
Lance? Now this.
00:50:51
Ivor How long has this movie been out?
00:50:54
Two hours? Little.
00:50:55
Bit more than two hours? No no.
00:50:56
When did the movie? 'S released now, it's available
00:50:59
to be seen now, correct? Yeah, we start where?
00:51:02
Is in the end of August, so OK end.
00:51:05
Of August, I know. You gave us the.
00:51:06
I have the. Full movie.
00:51:07
Can we put it up on our documentary channel here in
00:51:09
Mumble? The full movie, no.
00:51:11
Because we still, we still have the light sensing obligations
00:51:16
and by the way, we have a. Documentary Channel on Rumble.
00:51:19
If any of your older documentaries that you've
00:51:21
already monetized, if you'd like them to be put up there, let us
00:51:23
know. OK, you can provide.
00:51:25
Those to George you. Connect with him the documentary
00:51:28
channel does very well over on rumble.
00:51:29
We've got lots of documentaries from lots of different experts
00:51:33
and professionals like yourself all right let's play the let's
00:51:35
play the trailer George. Let's.
00:51:38
January 8th. 2020 the. Passenger plane falls.
00:51:43
From the sky in Tehran, 176 lives lost in seconds.
00:51:48
But what if? This was only the.
00:51:50
Spark in a much older fire. To understand why the West fears
00:51:55
Iran, you must first ask why it tried to remake it.
00:51:58
Iran third largest. Oil reserve in the world from
00:52:02
Cyrus the Great. To the War on Terror, from
00:52:05
ancient empires to modern sanctions, it is a story.
00:52:13
No, no, I'm I'm not sure. Well, of course, a lot.
00:52:24
Of people don't recognize what Iran has been a, a political,
00:52:29
you know, I think a pawn in the global chess board.
00:52:33
Of course, a lot of people don't recognize that.
00:52:35
And then you've made those connections and you start with
00:52:37
the Downing of that flight, PS752.
00:52:41
Why did you think that was a great point to bring up as the
00:52:45
starting point of the film? Why did you pick that flight?
00:52:49
Because it's a tragedy. First of all, I, I look on the
00:52:51
making the movie about that flight and what's happened to
00:52:54
them, why that's fall from the sky, why that's flight was shut
00:52:58
down by mistake. But as soon as I start digging
00:53:02
deeper and deeper, I see bigger picture.
00:53:04
I I keep the plane and explain the story of the plane, but I go
00:53:09
more concentrate more on the questions of regime change in
00:53:13
Iran and why it is wrong, why it is dangerous and why it's never
00:53:18
work or it's work and fire back so badly.
00:53:22
So we were suffering the consequences of this.
00:53:25
This was my goal. So goal was making the movie was
00:53:29
initially to cover the story about, about this innocent plan,
00:53:32
you know, Ukrainian plan in Iraq, in Iran and the, and the
00:53:37
Americans killing the Qasem Soleimani and the order of
00:53:41
President Trump. That was a perfect drama,
00:53:43
perfect setup for the film. And later I find out I need to
00:53:47
talk more about the entire that change in the game regime change
00:53:52
operations in Iran, what we run continuously but from the time
00:53:58
of 1953 and a little bit early and how Iranians respond what we
00:54:04
what we grow in their response of region of us as Americans.
00:54:10
That's a complicated things because first of all, I
00:54:13
mentioned the culture difference.
00:54:15
Cultural difference is big. You know, first we Christians,
00:54:18
they Muslim, second, they have history of 5000 years, different
00:54:24
invasions, different fights. We have history of 250 years.
00:54:28
And that's like a spark in the historical on the historical
00:54:32
timeline from their perspective. And we teaching them how to
00:54:36
gather themselves. We we know that we call them the
00:54:40
Theocratics. Even the brightest minds of my
00:54:45
friends who who helped me to make that movie as my teacher
00:54:49
Oliver Stone, they calling them theocrats.
00:54:51
This is not theocratical regime because it is different regime
00:54:55
and nobody trying to understand, everybody trying to project the
00:54:59
dominance and it's failing again, again and again.
00:55:02
The dominance is not the answer for building our position, our
00:55:07
foreign policy stand on to Iran. We tried for 40 years.
00:55:13
We never go to the goal. We never got to the goal.
00:55:16
Now it's again the people advocating for regime change in
00:55:20
Iran. And you know what's funny, as
00:55:23
you know, I mentioned Mike Pompeo in previous sections and
00:55:25
I make I mentioned him again because he taking the money from
00:55:29
that organization. What was not so long before on a
00:55:33
terrorist list? Mac advocating for regime
00:55:36
change. Also John Bolton.
00:55:38
Wasn't he part of that also? Oh yeah, John Bolton.
00:55:41
Accidental. This is a professional
00:55:42
warmonger. He's warmongering at every
00:55:44
possible France. Yeah, he's also taking the money
00:55:47
from exactly same people. Yeah, I mean Pareo.
00:55:50
In Hold on. Yeah, sure.
00:55:51
I I. Ran the the trailer through
00:55:55
Premiere Pro and redid it in a different format so I can play
00:55:58
it now. Yeah, let's go ahead and play it
00:55:59
right now. George, thanks for doing that,
00:56:00
buddy. January 8th. 2020 the.
00:56:05
Passenger plane falls. From the sky in Tehran, 176
00:56:10
lives lost in seconds. But what if?
00:56:13
This was only the. Spark in a much older fire.
00:56:17
To understand why the West fears Iran, you must first ask why it
00:56:21
tried to remake it. Iran third largest.
00:56:23
Soil reserve in the world from Cyrus the Great.
00:56:27
To the War on Terror from ancient empires to.
00:56:39
Keep doing that to the. Audience, I don't know why it's
00:56:41
stopping on me. That's too bad that it is.
00:56:44
All right, well, listen, let's talk about Bolton and Pompeii.
00:56:46
Of course they were the they they spearheaded that
00:56:49
assassination of Iranian General Cassini.
00:56:54
They made a big deal of it. Of course, it was all over the
00:56:56
press and they were excited about it.
00:56:58
We always talk about the power of the military industrial
00:57:01
complex. What do you think the real
00:57:03
intent of that was? Was that just more moves on the
00:57:06
imperial chess board or what was that first of?
00:57:09
All what is the biggest danger with that?
00:57:11
Because that people know that behavioral pattern of our
00:57:16
president, they calculate him very well and they sell him the
00:57:20
idea of killing Qasem Soleimani to make him look bigger than
00:57:26
Barack Obama killing Osama bin Laden.
00:57:28
First of all, I believe my Christian believes that killing
00:57:32
human beings, this is an act of sin.
00:57:36
So this is wrong. I'm not approve any killings,
00:57:41
doesn't matter who ordered them, but why and how they sell it.
00:57:46
And they, they will try to do it again because the same, same
00:57:51
technology, if it works once, they're going to work again and
00:57:55
again. So of course, every person, even
00:57:58
the president of United States have a behavioral pattern.
00:58:01
If you do that, if you show that to him, he will do this.
00:58:06
For example, why Zelanski when he was talking to Trump, why
00:58:10
bring some pictures with him and showing this to the president?
00:58:15
Because somebody told him to do that.
00:58:18
Who? Who advised him?
00:58:20
Because we know that people in intelligence who is working for
00:58:24
Victoria Nola than others who teaching Zelensky how to impress
00:58:28
Trump, how to make him unbalance it and how to make him to do
00:58:34
something what he don't want to do when he pragmatically
00:58:38
thinking about this. This is a danger of this
00:58:40
technology. Because as a film makers, as a
00:58:43
film director, I do exactly same with my audience.
00:58:47
I first of all ignite an emotion and after that when emotion is
00:58:51
here, I sell in something like, you know, messaging.
00:58:54
So this principle, if you hear something about Cambridge
00:59:00
Analytica, this is just a top of iceberg.
00:59:02
But before behind that the company named CLS who is a
00:59:08
masterminds of all informational influence affairs and the
00:59:14
killing of Qasem Soleimani. For me it's a brilliant example
00:59:19
how the real President of United States can be wasted and
00:59:23
manipulated by people who person they own goals.
00:59:28
I think we saw so. Much of that in the first Trump
00:59:31
administration. He had lots of people around him
00:59:34
I did not trust. I didn't like Mike Pompeo from
00:59:37
the very beginning. He made the hair on the back of
00:59:39
my neck stand up. I didn't like Bill Barr and so
00:59:43
many others. Christopher Wray, there was just
00:59:44
so many individuals around and in the administration.
00:59:48
Laura Loomer's done a pretty good job of outing them.
00:59:50
But of course, they did a fantastic job of suppressing
00:59:53
lots of the information online and, and at that point, a lot of
00:59:56
things hadn't been exposed. What do you think in in this
00:59:59
situation? Do you think Trump understands
01:00:03
that he's being sold a bill of goods?
01:00:05
Do you think he's more aware this time?
01:00:07
I believe so. I believe so.
01:00:09
He is much different. His posture, his results in the
01:00:13
second edition is much better than the first.
01:00:15
He's much well prepared and he's surrounded by some people whom I
01:00:18
can trust for example, Tulsi Gabbard or Cash or others and
01:00:24
the people who's talking to to him as well.
01:00:26
I know we interviewed General Flynn for all all the
01:00:29
President's men. I I understand he's a military
01:00:32
guy said this something very interesting.
01:00:34
He said if I will have a gun on me and I will told and have an
01:00:39
order to kill the Putin, I will shot him in the head with no
01:00:42
hesitation. This is how he projects himself
01:00:45
as a military person. So I under command and order,
01:00:49
but that's all people they're advocating for peace because
01:00:53
they understand how bad will the consequences of real hot war of
01:00:58
United States and Russia and why Iran is here because you know
01:01:02
the situation in Iran, I was told by Iranians kind of
01:01:06
influential, influential Iranians.
01:01:08
Igor, we feel much differently now because last three years
01:01:12
changed everything from 2022 when Russia go in the war in
01:01:16
Ukraine. We are strengthening our
01:01:18
relationship with China and Russia dramatically.
01:01:21
So we now feel totally different than we feel before when we were
01:01:26
standing against the United States of powerful player alone.
01:01:31
So Iran, Iran, it will be a key point because the problem is
01:01:35
here that Israel will try to project all possible influence
01:01:39
what Israel developed in the United States.
01:01:43
To lure United. States into the war with Iran
01:01:46
because they cannot run this war on their own, they have not
01:01:50
enough of capacity for this war and they understand there's only
01:01:54
one big danger and they for their territory integrity and to
01:01:58
goals of Israel state as it is now this is Iran.
01:02:03
So This is why that film given to American audience alternative
01:02:08
to mainstream analysis of history of Iran governance and
01:02:14
history of Iran and relationship of Iran to the great power of
01:02:19
the great game. So this I believe not an answer
01:02:24
but just a background education, because if the shit happened and
01:02:29
if we will go on a big war, the consequences for all of us will
01:02:33
be very, very bad. Because we can that war can
01:02:36
distract us from something very important, what we're doing
01:02:39
inside of our country, trying to rebuild and save.
01:02:42
Because believe me or not guys, I was survivor of falling of
01:02:46
Soviet Union. I see same signs.
01:02:50
The money is start losing the value people hate each other,
01:02:55
they divide it the politicians keep ranting and and giving them
01:02:59
different destructions, but overall our country going down
01:03:04
and the thing that is you think you think because they always.
01:03:07
Say 200 years and we're way past that for a superpower.
01:03:11
Do you think that right now the signs you see having lived
01:03:14
through the fall of, you know, the, the, the Russian economy
01:03:19
and the Russian government, do you think we're a superpower in
01:03:22
decline and maybe in fact being $37 trillion in debt, where our
01:03:27
destruction is imminent? We are definitely.
01:03:30
In decline, but did we need to sit and wait and look on this
01:03:35
and try to do nothing No, we need to fight against that.
01:03:39
We need to find where is our mistakes.
01:03:41
We need to fix that because as a Christian, I believe that every
01:03:45
people who praying to God, they will be here and that will be
01:03:48
answer. So we need to find back our idea
01:03:52
because we lost an idea and this is the biggest problem for the
01:03:55
Western civilization. Where is our idea, what we're
01:03:57
doing, why we're living there and let me stop you.
01:04:01
I got to ask. So.
01:04:03
I downloaded another two different trailers, the original
01:04:05
trailer, the one I checked it, it stops on its own.
01:04:07
It's not here. So let me play this, OK?
01:04:12
January. 8th 2020 the. Passenger plane falls.
01:04:16
From the sky in Tehran, 176 lives lost in seconds.
01:04:22
But what if? This was only the.
01:04:23
Spark in a much older fire. To understand why the West fears
01:04:28
Iran, you must first ask why it tried to remake it.
01:04:32
Iran third largest. Soil reserve in the world from
01:04:35
Cyrus the Great. To the War on Terror, from
01:04:39
ancient empires to modern sanctions, it is a story about
01:04:43
power, about memory, about defiance.
01:04:47
Iran is a. Civilization state.
01:04:49
It's at the crossroads of Eurasia.
01:04:52
When it comes to regime change. the United States does not abide
01:04:55
by international law by the will of the people.
01:04:58
What does the world see? When it looks at Iran, a threat
01:05:01
or a nation that is simply refused to kneel, the Parthians
01:05:04
never acceded to Rome. They never gave up when they.
01:05:08
Why the people as evil and good? This is the beginning of
01:05:12
mistake. The great game is over.
01:05:19
This is not just Iran. 'S story it's.
01:05:22
Ours too. All.
01:05:30
Right, see we got it. Got 3 * a charm.
01:05:34
I'm a relentless man. I'm a relentless man.
01:05:36
Yeah, you know, you know I. Got to ask you this course
01:05:38
Netflix has been in the news for what I would consider a grooming
01:05:43
operation. We covered it the other day.
01:05:45
It's incredible the amount of content.
01:05:48
And of course you chose to to release on the Tucker Carlson
01:05:52
network, one of your projects. What do you think the future is
01:05:56
of the for digital platforms? Do you think the future of
01:05:59
documentary, you know, documentary distribution,
01:06:03
especially when it's content like yours, do you think these
01:06:05
alternative platforms are the real solution?
01:06:07
Cause of course suppression is still going on.
01:06:09
And do you think this operation we see of content that seems to
01:06:13
undermine the United States or at least the children of the
01:06:17
United States, whether it's TikTok or it's on Netflix, What
01:06:21
do you think? Do you think that's intentional?
01:06:23
Do you think there's a there's a master plan behind the scenes,
01:06:27
first of all? Netflix it's a Obama platform
01:06:31
because infiltrated into the board by Susan Rice and not even
01:06:36
mentioned on their official website.
01:06:38
But she is in there and she's in position as waiting what should
01:06:42
put what should not. So Netflix, sorry, I'm not
01:06:45
calibrating with Nexus anyhow, I'm a Public Enemy.
01:06:48
I'm a Netflix. So we choose Amazon.
01:06:52
We also on the many others platforms, independent
01:06:54
platforms, I believe the content is a key and a good content
01:06:58
can't find the way to the audience through the different
01:07:01
channels. You know, we was severely
01:07:04
censored on the Ukrainian fire and it's lead only for 600
01:07:10
millions of audience around the world and this is.
01:07:13
How it's work? If you're silencing, if you're
01:07:15
attempting to silence something and people see that they're
01:07:19
gonna do, they're gonna find a way.
01:07:21
So I'm in 2022 when we were silenced in the during the
01:07:25
summer after this few years already on the on the on the on
01:07:30
the show. And it was suddenly we was
01:07:33
killed by YouTube, by Vimeo, by Apple, by everybody.
01:07:37
I give up the copyright for my film and I give it to audience
01:07:41
for free and YouTube and everywhere that people see 3000
01:07:45
different sources of film, it's impossible to penetrate.
01:07:50
We reached like a 6 on a Rumble for just a few days,
01:07:53
thanks to a CEO of Rumble who give us front page for promoting
01:07:58
our film. And then people who help like
01:08:01
Glenn Greenwald, Oliver and others, they help us to
01:08:04
penetrate this wall of censorship.
01:08:07
So I believe in a good content, telling the truth to the
01:08:10
audience can find a way even in oppressive silencing regime of
01:08:15
contemporary media, all big media, it is corporate media
01:08:19
that mean they have an agenda. They have they first agenda is a
01:08:23
profit. But you know, even my movie was
01:08:26
#1 on Apple TV, number one in the documentary on Amazon.
01:08:31
And they cancel it because that's something else.
01:08:36
What is bigger than money. So they afraid of truth.
01:08:40
But audience have a different agenda.
01:08:42
Audience want to see the truth. Audience want to see some
01:08:46
alternative versions of events and they can find a way to your
01:08:50
content. If your content is a great.
01:08:52
So my answer that's answer was Hollywood based on content is a
01:08:57
key. So good film can find a way to
01:09:00
the audience anyway how you censor it And I think you're
01:09:04
right. You know what kind of advice is
01:09:06
a successful film maker? What kind of advice would you
01:09:08
give to the aspiring documentary film makers that are of course
01:09:12
looking to tackle complex geopolitical issues, while of
01:09:17
course that you want them to maintain a strong narrative
01:09:20
voice? What could you tell these
01:09:22
younger guys below you that are still trying to do it but
01:09:25
haven't had the success you've had?
01:09:26
What's what? What's the best strategy?
01:09:29
I'll get it. Try to make something real.
01:09:31
Forget to make in films. Honestly, try to make it.
01:09:36
Try to make it good as the struggle is real.
01:09:38
Yes, it is you. Will be struggling.
01:09:41
You will be blank, you will be prosecuted, you will be lost
01:09:44
your income if you will continue seriously.
01:09:48
So try to make it as good as you can and try to be passionate
01:09:53
about this and the good content. We'll find out.
01:09:56
It has not happened from the from the from the first film.
01:09:59
That's that's a long journey. You need to keep buying this
01:10:02
lottery ticket making another movie after another movie.
01:10:05
And that will that's happened to me on the Ukrainian fire in
01:10:09
2016. And after that on the Snowden,
01:10:12
what we helped to produce to Oliver Stone, because you
01:10:14
mentioned he was a contractor. I also met one contractor, his
01:10:18
name Edward, he's reside in Russia now, happy two kids.
01:10:22
He take the Russian citizenship, he study language, his wife with
01:10:26
him, He's OK, The guy who served humanity a lot because he tell
01:10:30
us that's that people is spying on us without violating the law.
01:10:36
And who was in this? We showed the Clapper.
01:10:40
Ahead of NSA in our film Snowden.
01:10:43
There's nothing changed from this time.
01:10:45
The guy is still walking free, not indicted.
01:10:47
I very badly want all of these people on the list.
01:10:51
I I waiting for 9th of October to see Mr. Comedy behind the
01:10:55
bar. But is it just the beginning if
01:10:57
they all the perpetrators will be not bring it to justice, they
01:11:03
will do it again for sure. There's no doubt you know they.
01:11:07
Always say that, of course we compare it to a bartender that
01:11:12
steals a drink. He steals that first drink and
01:11:14
puts it in his tip jar. He doesn't get caught.
01:11:17
Then the next night it's 2 drinks.
01:11:18
Next night it's 3 drinks. And that bartender eventually
01:11:21
starts paying his rent because he's stolen so much.
01:11:24
And you're right, without without transparency and then
01:11:27
accountability and consequences, they're going to just continue.
01:11:31
They've been empowered to continue The Dirty 51 + 8 911
01:11:36
Seth Rich laptop, their Hunter Byter laptop that you covered so
01:11:40
well, all these things. If you, if you allow these
01:11:43
people to continue, they are they're, they're, you know,
01:11:46
they're empowered by getting away with it.
01:11:49
And, you know, we're disappointed because I had
01:11:51
thought that we were going to see arrests happen much more
01:11:53
rapidly. I think comedy is an example.
01:11:57
I think his attorneys probably pre negotiated knowing how much
01:12:01
serious trouble he's in because what he's being charged for is
01:12:03
minor in comparison to the Russian collusion hoax and his
01:12:06
participation in trying to overthrow the US government.
01:12:10
I wouldn't be surprised if he is working under A5K1 for
01:12:15
cooperation because of course these people have been very
01:12:19
confident because there haven't been any consequences in and and
01:12:23
of course very aggressive about the behavior behind the scenes.
01:12:27
We've seen it, but if you don't start going after them, and that
01:12:31
goes all the way through Congress, we've said it many
01:12:33
times that absolute immunity even in the judiciary is a
01:12:36
problem, right? God is the only one with
01:12:38
absolute immunity, and he doesn't have to ask for it.
01:12:41
When you start looking at things like absolute immunity,
01:12:43
qualified immunity and lifetime appointments, it goes right
01:12:46
through the judiciary, those through our intelligence
01:12:48
organizations, people in the FBI that are guilty of destroying
01:12:52
evidence. We heard about the burn bags.
01:12:54
I'm sure many of them that they found.
01:12:56
There's probably 10 times the amount of information that's
01:12:58
been burned up in cover ups and that includes every branch of
01:13:02
our government. I still don't see that
01:13:05
happening. I don't see those individuals.
01:13:06
Of course, The Dirty 51 + 8. Some of these things are really
01:13:10
low hanging fruit. Go ahead.
01:13:12
What were you going to say? I have a question.
01:13:14
Do you believe that burn bags because I stay like a it's a
01:13:18
like a inside job of people who in the FBI who believe that
01:13:22
justice need to be bigger than that was during that comedy time
01:13:26
and they don't I don't believe it.
01:13:28
I don't believe that those individuals had the burn bags
01:13:30
and they just stopped because normally the documents are
01:13:33
shredded first and then they're put into the burn bags.
01:13:36
I don't believe that somebody took the burn bags, put
01:13:38
documents in. I almost wonder if that wasn't
01:13:41
kind of a manipulation of the narrative.
01:13:43
So I'm not confident that it's true.
01:13:45
I'd have to hear it directly and I'd have to know it directly
01:13:48
from people that I trust. I'm, I'm, I'm unsure.
01:13:52
Here's my problem. I, I think that there's lots of,
01:13:55
for example, Letitia James, if you and I have committed
01:13:59
mortgage fraud, it wouldn't take months and months and months to
01:14:01
indict us. They would look at the
01:14:03
paperwork. They would say Igor lied about
01:14:05
his revenue. Hold on.
01:14:06
We know why they didn't. Do beat.
01:14:08
That's because the the US attorneys for those states
01:14:12
didn't want to do it. Now that they changed them up so
01:14:15
well, it's kind of like Adam. Schiff he's clearly he violated
01:14:20
again mortgage fraud. It's a low hanging fruit case.
01:14:23
And you can always the US government, when it comes to a
01:14:25
person like Igor, they would easily, they indict you and, and
01:14:30
then they tell you, you've got to take a plea or this is going
01:14:32
to happen to you. And you're, you're facing these,
01:14:33
these excessive years. And then here comes the
01:14:36
superseding indictment. Igor, if you don't do this, this
01:14:39
and this, which is extortion, bribery and coercion.
01:14:42
If you don't do this, we're going to supersede the
01:14:44
indictment. And instead of 10 years, you're
01:14:46
going to be looking at 100 years because that's how the charges
01:14:50
stack. It's a standard procedure.
01:14:52
Let's face it, any mathematician would tell you that it's
01:14:54
impossible for the US government to have a 98% conviction rate.
01:14:59
It wouldn't. It doesn't work.
01:15:00
It's and let's face it, are you telling me that the Department
01:15:02
of Justice is the only government department that works
01:15:05
perfectly? That they're so good at their
01:15:07
job that they get all these indictments?
01:15:09
No, it's because they cheat and they lie and they coerce and
01:15:13
they destroy exculpatory evidence and they do many other
01:15:15
things that I could go into details on.
01:15:18
My thing is, is that when you look at that situation and you
01:15:21
really understand the system. I questioned the burn bags.
01:15:25
It seemed very perfect timing because the narrative, everybody
01:15:28
was very angry at Pam Bondi. They were upset that the
01:15:31
indictments were coming. They need redirection.
01:15:33
I still questioned because I worked in operations years ago
01:15:37
that manipulated media very effectively.
01:15:41
Are you familiar with the term economic Jackal?
01:15:44
Yes. Of course.
01:15:45
OK, so I used to do. Overwatch for economic jackals
01:15:49
and at the end of the day, that manipulation of the banking
01:15:52
system and of course they use they use lots of different
01:15:55
systems to make that work. And that's just I.
01:15:59
Want to I want to .1 very important things here what is
01:16:03
what is emerging in this in this mindset, but you establishing
01:16:07
the way of manipulate the media and you start using this against
01:16:11
American citizens and you start using that for manipulate your
01:16:16
own government. So real intelligence is going
01:16:20
into the window. So nobody care about real
01:16:23
intelligence on a battlefield and that foreign, foreign
01:16:26
territory they have manipulated, constructed picture what's
01:16:31
already sold through the media, through the politicians, through
01:16:34
the legislators and they making government start.
01:16:38
So that's exactly perfect situation, situation of wag the
01:16:41
dog because the intelligence community who's supposed to
01:16:45
serve the government now making the government serve the
01:16:50
intelligence community. This is why biggest why biggest
01:16:54
perpetrators sit in an intelligence community.
01:16:56
Why either comedy, Renan Plopper and others.
01:17:00
That's all intelligence has a I can mention only the Admiral
01:17:05
head of NSA who was brave enough to go to Trump and reveal that
01:17:09
you aspire that your your wired up.
01:17:12
Your Trump Tower is wired, so that's a big responsibility as a
01:17:17
citizen of this country. Because if you see the coup, if
01:17:21
you see high treason, you need to raise your voice.
01:17:24
You need to stand against that or that will be unbelievable
01:17:28
consequences. Because we have great power.
01:17:30
We have a lot of power. We have a nuclear warheads, we
01:17:33
have biggest army in the world, we have a biggest military
01:17:35
budget and we have a biggest debt.
01:17:37
What actually only, and it's all making us very dangerous.
01:17:43
This is why I'm making this film about Iran.
01:17:45
It's not about the story for Iranians.
01:17:48
This is a story for us to try to fix some of our mistakes, to
01:17:52
abolish, abolish the method. Or if you're doing the same
01:17:56
things again and again, it's like a sanction in Russia in 19
01:17:59
circles. So sanction in Russia again and
01:18:01
again and again. My friend Pearson Sharp just
01:18:04
come back from Russia and he's showing how sanction is work,
01:18:08
perfect life, clean streets, nice settings.
01:18:12
Russia's amazing. It's.
01:18:13
Beautiful. They've done an incredible job.
01:18:15
I mean, you look at their subways as compared to us.
01:18:18
It's just that's also, that's also.
01:18:20
Impressed myself, Tucker Carlson when he was in Russia in 2024
01:18:25
and he was also and we talked to him to help him to understand
01:18:28
the Russian mentality and to understand Putin.
01:18:31
And this is everybody who see that on their own eyes, they
01:18:35
say, Oh my God, this is so different than really that we
01:18:38
perceive that we practically bring Russia to the Stone Age
01:18:41
with our like a continuous sanctions.
01:18:44
No, no, not even close. And why to use again, same
01:18:49
technique, same old and absolute strategy of dominance against
01:18:54
Iran if we can just we respect today's sovereignty and the
01:18:58
nation and try to understand them and try to deal with them
01:19:02
because we're good on dealing, especially with the President
01:19:05
Trump. We're good at making deals, no
01:19:08
doubt. I think you're right.
01:19:10
Over the target and I'm sure you've been attacked for it just
01:19:13
as we have. Suppression attacks.
01:19:16
That's part of the MO, right? That's part of the modus
01:19:19
operandi. But listen, we're out of time
01:19:21
for today. But listen, we got to have you
01:19:22
back on. I'm sure we could dialogue with
01:19:25
you. I'm, I'm sure George has got
01:19:26
lots and lots of things he'd love to bring up because I can
01:19:29
see him over there. I can see his facial expression.
01:19:31
I want to make. I say we make a.
01:19:32
Documentary, a movie about, you know, all this money coming back
01:19:35
in the United States. Yeah.
01:19:38
Yeah, I, I any. Project you're working on Igar
01:19:40
you're always welcome to use our platform, any of your older
01:19:43
documentaries if you'd like to get them up on our documentary
01:19:45
channel on Rumble Happy to do that.
01:19:47
You can work with George on that.
01:19:49
Where can they go see the new documentary?
01:19:52
Where can they download it? How do they follow you?
01:19:55
This is your shameless plug. Go in all in.
01:19:58
Let's give you the screen and we'll let you tell everybody how
01:20:01
they they can follow you on social media and how they can
01:20:03
get involved and watch your films as they get released.
01:20:06
I'm on Twitter as a. Lopatanok, That's my name on
01:20:10
Twitter. I mostly spend my time on X, so
01:20:13
all my films can be seen on Amazon Prime Video.
01:20:18
Or just type my name or type the name of the title around the
01:20:22
Great game and you can see it. Yeah, that's great.
01:20:26
We appreciate. Do you have a?
01:20:27
Do you have a website? You have your own?
01:20:28
You don't, no. No website so I.
01:20:30
Found you. I found your details on IMDb.
01:20:33
I've got an old IMDb profile up there.
01:20:35
I used to do some acting years ago, crappy stuff, you know what
01:20:38
I mean? The stuff that ends up on the
01:20:39
cutting room floor. All right, Igor, thank you so
01:20:42
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