[00:01:15] Welcome back to The Big Mig Show Global Finance Forum with your hosts, Jonathan Rose, Jacob Diaz, Lance Miliacho, and George Valentin.
[00:01:23] From Bullion to Borders, we're going to be your go-to source for cutting-edge insights into the world of finance.
[00:01:29] And this show is sponsored by Genesis Gold Group.
[00:01:32] Genesis Gold Group believes in empowering faith-driven stewardship where gold and silver are integral part of a balanced portfolio.
[00:01:41] Protecting your finances with precious metals has never been more crucial and easier during these trying times.
[00:01:47] You're going to join us as we explore the forces shaping global markets, the power of precious metals, and the dynamics that influence economies across borders.
[00:01:56] With expert analysis from Genesis Gold Group team, this is a show where your financial future meets the world's most pressing economic realities.
[00:02:04] And of course, as always, finance all over the globe, changing turmoil, markets up in doubt.
[00:02:10] It's hard to get a grip on what to do and where to go.
[00:02:14] And that's why we bring in experts.
[00:02:15] That's why The Big Mig Show, you know, as far as we're concerned, we're always the tip of the spear.
[00:02:19] And obviously, information and education is a tool that is a go-to for us.
[00:02:24] George Valentin, how are you doing there, man?
[00:02:26] Show me the money.
[00:02:28] That's all I got to say.
[00:02:29] Show me the money.
[00:02:31] You got the new finance background going there.
[00:02:33] I love it.
[00:02:34] Getting pumped up for the show.
[00:02:35] So let's go ahead and bring Jonathan Rose and Jacob Diaz in.
[00:02:38] Jonathan Rose, CEO of Genesis Gold Group, as you guys know.
[00:02:41] You've seen him on the show a bunch of times now.
[00:02:44] Super experienced.
[00:02:45] And of course, Jacob Diaz, CFO for Genesis Gold Group.
[00:02:49] You saw him last time.
[00:02:50] Super knowledgeable.
[00:02:51] Also, he's got a new puppy, so he might be getting harassed by his new puppy.
[00:02:54] You see him looking at the ground.
[00:02:55] He's not looking away from you.
[00:02:57] He's looking at the new dog.
[00:02:58] Listen, I say bring him in.
[00:03:01] Hello, gentlemen.
[00:03:02] Jonathan Rose, Jacob Diaz.
[00:03:04] Bring a puppy up.
[00:03:04] Let's see him.
[00:03:05] Let's see him.
[00:03:06] What's the puppy's name?
[00:03:07] What is the puppy's name?
[00:03:09] Gold.
[00:03:09] It's right here.
[00:03:11] What's his name?
[00:03:11] Gold?
[00:03:12] Silver?
[00:03:12] His name is Raider, after his silver and black coat.
[00:03:17] Oh, I see it.
[00:03:18] I would have just said silver.
[00:03:20] LA Raiders?
[00:03:20] I think that's an LA Raiders call out there from you?
[00:03:23] Yeah, that's an old school LA Raiders call out.
[00:03:26] Nice.
[00:03:27] Well, that's great.
[00:03:28] You know, I have five rescues.
[00:03:30] My wife keeps collecting them like they're part of the Franklin Mint.
[00:03:34] You got to collect every piece of them, you know?
[00:03:36] So hopefully there aren't any more in my future.
[00:03:38] I've got an accidental cat to a rescue cat.
[00:03:41] That wasn't supposed to happen, but it did.
[00:03:43] She sometimes makes a guest appearance on the show.
[00:03:45] So welcome, you guys.
[00:03:47] Lots going on as usual.
[00:03:48] How are things on your end?
[00:03:50] Things are pretty good.
[00:03:52] And Lance George, I just want to say before we get going, I love the intro and the fireworks,
[00:03:58] the graphics coming up.
[00:03:59] I almost kind of took me back to my childhood when I used to see like Dallas and Dynasty on the television.
[00:04:06] I think we just need some like, you know, striking poses by us on there.
[00:04:10] We can now add Raider into their little headshot, you know, Raider.
[00:04:14] I'll tell you what, if you guys send me some pictures, I can do a lot of things.
[00:04:18] I just need pictures.
[00:04:20] Maybe it's time for Genesis Gold Group to pay for a Glamour Shots photo shoot, you know what I mean,
[00:04:26] where they do those glam shots in the malls.
[00:04:28] I don't know if you guys remember those.
[00:04:29] You guys go in there and get some of those.
[00:04:31] I don't know, Lance.
[00:04:32] I don't know if you want to go that too heavy because you might be taken away from me getting my gold pepper bar.
[00:04:38] So just send me pictures.
[00:04:39] I'll take care of the rest.
[00:04:41] I liked it.
[00:04:42] It was powerful, powerful.
[00:04:43] So, yeah, we're happy to be here.
[00:04:44] And, you know, since we last spoke, it's, you know, not trying to be the bad news bear,
[00:04:51] but obviously the market's been pumping, but the sentiment hasn't changed.
[00:04:55] You know, people are concerned about, you know, what the future holds.
[00:04:58] And, you know, we're getting closer and closer to the pivotal election this year.
[00:05:04] And, you know, what's going to, you know, what cards are being held and what does that mean for people in their day-to-day lives
[00:05:12] and, more importantly, their finances, right?
[00:05:14] And that's why we're tuning in because we want to make sure that we can have the right education behind us
[00:05:20] to make these important decisions because I believe now is the time to make those important decisions.
[00:05:26] And I think we can explore that a little bit more today and obviously carry on the conversation
[00:05:31] and find out why we're such an advocate for precious metals, particularly gold and silver.
[00:05:38] You know, and I've got to tell you, obviously, for anybody that's just joining us,
[00:05:42] this is the second show in a series.
[00:05:44] We'll be doing these right now, maybe more, but right now we're doing them every other Friday.
[00:05:49] If you didn't tune in last time, over 100,000 views on that show.
[00:05:53] So the information you guys are providing is obviously in high demand.
[00:05:58] The people do want to know about it.
[00:06:00] You know, everybody's unsure when it comes to financial choices and decisions.
[00:06:04] They don't know what to do.
[00:06:05] I always tell people on our regular show that it's important to get a hold of you,
[00:06:08] but this isn't an infomercial.
[00:06:10] This is a show based on information.
[00:06:12] And what was great about Jonathan and Jacob both is that they're trying to give you the insight.
[00:06:16] It's not only because it's their business, but because this is their life.
[00:06:20] This is what they do.
[00:06:21] We want to give you the tools to make good decisions.
[00:06:23] That's why we tell you, if you go over to Genesis Gold, you can go over to thebigmiggold.com.
[00:06:28] You can sign up for that free guide.
[00:06:30] It's a free guide.
[00:06:30] It'll tell you how you can invest in an IRA, how you can actually get precious metals into your portfolio
[00:06:36] and be protected and still have the protection of the IRA as far as your retirement accounts are concerned.
[00:06:42] These guys are experts in that.
[00:06:43] We teamed up with them because obviously they're a faith-based company.
[00:06:46] And, you know, our show is always God, country, family.
[00:06:49] That's what it's about.
[00:06:50] But we did it because really they're experts in the field.
[00:06:52] And if you look around, no complaints.
[00:06:54] There are lots of other companies that have horrendous complaints online for the services they provided.
[00:07:00] You will not find those.
[00:07:01] And that's why we chose Genesis as our precious metals company.
[00:07:05] So, look, there's, you know, the Oracle of Omaha making lots of moves as of late.
[00:07:13] You know, my question is for you guys, is he getting ready for a crash?
[00:07:18] He's always been so good at predicting the market.
[00:07:20] And this is a double whammy here.
[00:07:22] He just topped being a $1 trillion valuation company.
[00:07:27] That's been reserved for almost only the tech companies in the past.
[00:07:31] It's the first time that a company that wasn't a tech company, I believe,
[00:07:34] that topped a trillion dollar valuation.
[00:07:37] So pretty interesting information.
[00:07:40] What do you guys think?
[00:07:41] Is he preparing for a crash with these liquidations?
[00:07:44] Bank of America, Apple stock.
[00:07:46] He sold a billion dollars worth of Bank of America stock the other day.
[00:07:50] Give me your thoughts.
[00:07:50] Why don't you give me yours first, Jacob, and then we'll switch to Jonathan.
[00:07:54] Yeah, well, one thing we know about Warren Buffett is he is a stock guy through and through.
[00:07:58] Right.
[00:07:59] He certainly believes in the market when there's money to be made.
[00:08:02] So when you see him sitting in a $278 billion cash position selling stocks like never before,
[00:08:10] you know, they call him the Oracle for a reason.
[00:08:12] Clearly, he sees something that the average American doesn't and is trying to send a signal that, hey, you know, something big is coming.
[00:08:21] I think you're right.
[00:08:22] And he has been a guy that has always been ahead of what's going to come next, whether it's in buying a stock or selling a stock.
[00:08:31] You know, they call him a conglomerate, I guess, is rather determinate.
[00:08:36] He rallied more than 28 percent in 24.
[00:08:40] That's pretty unbelievable when you think about it.
[00:08:43] Jonathan, give me your thoughts.
[00:08:44] Where do you think he's going with all this?
[00:08:47] Yeah.
[00:08:47] I mean, 94 years old, you know, he's one year younger than God.
[00:08:52] Right.
[00:08:52] But exactly.
[00:08:54] You know, they call him the great Oracle for a reason.
[00:08:57] I mean, let's look at just what happened a few weeks ago.
[00:09:01] He dumped, you know, another round of stock.
[00:09:04] Now it's times two.
[00:09:06] And then what happened the following week?
[00:09:07] The market crashed.
[00:09:08] So you have to kind of really tap into, you know, what is Warren Buffett looking at?
[00:09:14] And what he's looking at is just on a macro, large economic scale.
[00:09:19] He's looking at debt.
[00:09:21] He's looking at international instability.
[00:09:22] He's looking at job reports.
[00:09:24] Maybe they have inside tracks on job reports that are falling below expectations.
[00:09:29] He's looking at inflations.
[00:09:31] He's looking at interest rate cuts.
[00:09:33] And ultimately, he's sending signals to the market that he believes that a correction is coming up.
[00:09:39] It's the only answer why someone would be dumping that amount of stock.
[00:09:42] Even Michael Burry, the famed trader who the big movie The Big Short was about just a couple of days ago.
[00:09:49] He sold 50% of his stock holdings.
[00:09:51] So, you know, the writing's on the wall.
[00:09:54] The market is at an all-time high.
[00:09:56] And it just astonishes me that the market keeps getting pushed further and further.
[00:10:02] You know, what's pushing it?
[00:10:03] Well, that's, you know, the trillion-dollar question, I guess we could say here.
[00:10:07] But I think Warren Buffett is very skeptical on these all-new-time highs.
[00:10:12] I think realistically a correction is coming.
[00:10:15] And when that correction comes, you know, there's two schools of thoughts here.
[00:10:20] You know, someone like Warren Buffett, like Jacob just mentioned, he's a stock guy.
[00:10:24] And he's going to be sitting in cash, and he's going to wait for that crash to come, and he's going to buy back in.
[00:10:31] Other people, like ourselves, you know, believe in holding physical qualities, and they believe in safeguarding and protecting what they have.
[00:10:39] So that's why people shift the way out of paper and kind of, if you play chess, you know, castle yourself and have that holdings in precious metals that it's going to protect you against market downturn, instability.
[00:10:52] And again, instability is a word I'm going to, you're going to hear me keep saying this over and over again.
[00:10:57] Jonathan, you keep saying instability.
[00:11:00] 2024 is going to carry through to 2025 as the year of turmoil.
[00:11:05] This pivotal election that we're about to see, we don't know how this is going to go.
[00:11:11] I mean, let's face it, we're dealing with the Democratic Party here.
[00:11:14] So, you know, it could be riots in the streets if things don't go our way.
[00:11:19] There could just be riots based on bad fiscal policies that we've been seeing here.
[00:11:23] And let's face it, when you look at Kamala's, call it a business plan, call it a presidential campaign, it's being ridden by an 11-year-old.
[00:11:33] And when you look at the ramifications, she is literally going to rob people's IRAs and 401ks.
[00:11:40] And that's why people either want to stay in cash or they want to get in precious metals.
[00:11:45] So, wait, Lance, hold on.
[00:11:47] I want to bring up a point about Warren Buffett.
[00:11:49] So you can look at that in two different perspectives.
[00:11:51] So he's definitely, he's locking in his gains of what could be his last year at the helm of Berkshire Hathaway.
[00:11:57] Possible.
[00:11:58] But also, insiders who sell their company stock, they don't think, they have to file, I think, one to three years in advance via, it's a rule 10B, 5-1.
[00:12:09] And that's different than Buffett selling shares for Berkshire Hathaway on the open market where he has no restrictions.
[00:12:15] So there's a difference there.
[00:12:17] So he has to file one to three years.
[00:12:20] I mean, it could be.
[00:12:22] You know, I'll be surprised if Buffett doesn't ride it right into the grave.
[00:12:26] I mean, obviously, he still seems incredibly sharp.
[00:12:29] I caught an interview a couple of weeks ago that somebody had done, and he just, and I don't think it was more than maybe three weeks old, the interview.
[00:12:37] And I was shocked at how sharp he really is, a lot sharper than, you know, most of the population at that age.
[00:12:43] But, you know, obviously, Harris has got everybody concerned.
[00:12:47] That interview that they haven't released, they refused to release the text file on it because it's been so highly edited.
[00:12:56] You know, it's always hard for me to take advice from somebody that's never been in business about how they're going to do something with finances.
[00:13:03] You know, and that's the same thing goes for Joe Biden.
[00:13:06] Here's a guy that never was in business.
[00:13:07] He's a career politician, career policies.
[00:13:09] She's the same way, right?
[00:13:10] And we know how she got to the top in a lot of unsavory behavior.
[00:13:15] Willie Brown's wife would confirm that.
[00:13:17] I'm sure if we asked her, she tries to talk about families, but I'm sure Willie Brown's wife wouldn't confirm that she's all about families.
[00:13:23] My point is that having people in leadership that don't know business, everybody talks about how amazing the economy was when Donald Trump was in place.
[00:13:31] Well, the guy knows business.
[00:13:32] He's been in business for a long time, worked with his father.
[00:13:35] He obviously is competent in a lot of areas.
[00:13:38] But, you know, these liquidations for people, just to give you some numbers, because I want people to wrap their head around this.
[00:13:42] He, Apple stock, of course, almost 400,000 shares, which was a damn near 50% of his portfolio.
[00:13:51] Bank America, he liquidated.
[00:13:53] Obviously, we know there was a large liquidation of almost a billion shares.
[00:13:56] So I don't know where that puts that one.
[00:13:58] I don't know this company, Snowflake Inc.
[00:14:00] He liquidated all of it, whatever that company was.
[00:14:04] Chevron, 3% of his portfolio, 4 million plus shares.
[00:14:08] Occidental Petroleum, he actually added shares.
[00:14:11] And then Capital One Financing, he took down 21%, another bank stock, I guess.
[00:14:16] So maybe he's worried about that.
[00:14:18] He added some holdings.
[00:14:19] Paramount Global was one that he sold all of, which I thought was interesting.
[00:14:24] And T-Mobile, he reduced by nearly 11% that stake.
[00:14:31] And I think I saw that he also, I don't know if you guys caught it.
[00:14:34] I think he unloaded some American Express.
[00:14:36] Am I getting that right?
[00:14:38] I kind of think he did.
[00:14:40] I heard that.
[00:14:41] But you missed one important one there, Alter Beauty.
[00:14:43] Now, I can speak of that because my daughter spends my money there all the time.
[00:14:47] Can we stop?
[00:14:48] Okay.
[00:14:49] First of all, for a guy that doesn't know, I'm assuming it's a cosmetic store.
[00:14:52] Am I right?
[00:14:53] It is.
[00:14:53] I have no idea.
[00:14:54] I've never been there.
[00:14:55] Maybe George goes there.
[00:14:56] Yeah.
[00:14:57] Based on my daughter's spending habits, no wonder he picked up that stock.
[00:15:00] So it makes sense to me.
[00:15:03] Funny, I guess.
[00:15:05] Is it busy when you go in the store?
[00:15:06] Is it always busy?
[00:15:07] That's the way I always think about stocks.
[00:15:09] What's it called?
[00:15:10] Alter Beauty?
[00:15:12] Alter.
[00:15:12] This happens, okay?
[00:15:14] So my wife is in the car.
[00:15:16] My daughter convinces us, can we go into Alter Beauty?
[00:15:18] It's a negotiation.
[00:15:20] You've got X amount budget.
[00:15:22] My wife tells me we'll be in and out in five minutes.
[00:15:25] I say, I'm sitting in the car.
[00:15:26] This is probably a lot of husbands here, like, you know, understand this situation.
[00:15:32] Five minutes.
[00:15:33] 25 minutes goes by texting the wife, like, how long?
[00:15:36] This is ridiculous.
[00:15:37] She said five minutes.
[00:15:38] So they come out with bags.
[00:15:41] Many people walking out with bags in Alter Beauty.
[00:15:43] So, you know, he's probably realizing, look, you know, generations have changed.
[00:15:48] This is a generation of iPhones, you know, looking good.
[00:15:52] And you've got to have this.
[00:15:54] Otherwise, you know, you're not going to be in the cool gang.
[00:15:56] So, you know, vanity is a big play in the stock market right now.
[00:16:00] And these companies have proven that.
[00:16:01] So that's a very, I think, smart pickup.
[00:16:04] But regardless of whatever stock you pick up, you know, a crash is a crash.
[00:16:08] When there's a correction, it really doesn't matter what you're holding on to.
[00:16:13] Everyone feels an earthquake when that happens.
[00:16:16] But I think Georgie picked up a good point earlier.
[00:16:19] You know, locking in his gains and getting out of the stocks.
[00:16:22] I think that's kind of like the highlight of this kind of topic that we've hit so far.
[00:16:26] And I think that should be kind of paramount for people, even that we speak to, that want
[00:16:32] to roll over the IRAs or 401ks into gold.
[00:16:35] They've had great returns.
[00:16:36] They want to lock in their gains.
[00:16:38] And now they want to protect what they have with physical assets.
[00:16:43] And that's why, you know, people are seeing the writing on the wall, kind of copying that
[00:16:47] kind of Warren Buffett play and keeping the chips off of the table, but making sure that
[00:16:53] they're going to still be worth something when you push them back in.
[00:16:56] I just want to get, yeah.
[00:16:58] So I want to give them some more advice.
[00:16:59] So in women's time, when they go into a store shopping, five minutes is an hour, just so
[00:17:05] you know.
[00:17:06] So yeah, so you got to prepare.
[00:17:08] But that's why we have these, because we can work from these in the car.
[00:17:12] It's the best.
[00:17:12] When I'm, nobody's bothering me, I'm on my phone doing emails, whatever I have to do,
[00:17:16] looking at the stocks.
[00:17:17] Even my crypto.
[00:17:19] But Lance, no, I had never been in that beauty store, but I would go.
[00:17:23] I've even gone to Victoria's Secret buying stuff, you know, but no wife or girl.
[00:17:28] Not for yourself.
[00:17:28] Hopefully not for yourself.
[00:17:29] I don't have no wife or girl right now, so I have no reason to go.
[00:17:31] But no, I mean, no big deal.
[00:17:33] I'm comfortable with my masculinity.
[00:17:35] Hey, it's all good.
[00:17:36] As long as you're not buying it for yourself, George, I'm comfortable with it also.
[00:17:39] So a minute ago, I want to point something out.
[00:17:41] You said this on the last show, and I don't know if the audience caught it.
[00:17:43] You guys have heard us talk about this prepper bar.
[00:17:46] Let me give you a close up here real quick.
[00:17:48] I don't know if you guys can see that.
[00:17:50] It's a multi-denominational 62.2 gram bar.
[00:17:54] Last time on the show, Jonathan, you mentioned, and I didn't realize that, these bars, we
[00:17:59] recommend these.
[00:18:00] We always talk about a way to pay for things if somehow the dollar completely devalues.
[00:18:05] Now, you still get the benefit of holding precious metal, but this bar and this multi-denominational
[00:18:09] bar, it breaks apart.
[00:18:11] Jonathan has a drawer full of them, I'm told, where he showed people how they break apart.
[00:18:16] And you can actually just chip off each denomination.
[00:18:19] This is a way you could pay for things if, obviously, the U.S. dollar tanks and with bricks
[00:18:25] on the horizon, a lot of people are suggesting that it's going to.
[00:18:28] But can you explain the process?
[00:18:29] If somebody wants to hold that in their IRA, is it the same process as regular bullion or
[00:18:34] is the prepper bar different?
[00:18:35] You mentioned it last show, and we had a couple of people ask about that.
[00:18:38] How does that work?
[00:18:39] Yeah, it's a good question.
[00:18:41] And I'll have Jacob pick up on this after me as well.
[00:18:45] But the IRS lets you roll over your IRA or 401k into an IRA backed by precious metals.
[00:18:54] And you can do this tax-free and penalty-free.
[00:18:56] And when you get to the part where you're picking your metals, you have, obviously, lots
[00:19:02] of options.
[00:19:02] One option may be a gold bar.
[00:19:05] Another one could be a gold coin.
[00:19:07] I don't have any in front of me.
[00:19:08] But another one could be a prepper bar.
[00:19:10] And very quickly, the prepper bar was born simply because of a product like this, where
[00:19:16] people would say to me, well, Jonathan, I have this brick of gold, this brick of silver.
[00:19:21] But what happens if I want to spend it, use it, trade it?
[00:19:25] How do I do that?
[00:19:26] So, you know, countless, I mean, not thousands, but hundreds.
[00:19:30] When you've got like a few hundred people asking you, you know, is there a product like
[00:19:33] that?
[00:19:34] That's why we made prepper bars.
[00:19:36] Because they're the only fractional gold and silver bar made in America, which we're
[00:19:42] very proud of, that is divisible into three different sizes, tenth of an ounce, quarter,
[00:19:49] and a twentieth of an ounce.
[00:19:50] That you can break apart, trade with, barter with, if that scenario presented itself.
[00:19:57] I like to call it wealth in your wallet because it's like the size and thinness of a credit
[00:20:01] card.
[00:20:02] So they're very easily, you know, portable.
[00:20:04] Yes, you can put them in an IRA.
[00:20:07] There's many products you can put in an IRA, but there's definitely a huge demand for portable
[00:20:12] wealth and utility.
[00:20:13] I say this word now, utility, because that's something that's been lacking in gold.
[00:20:18] There's no utility in this, but that's solved with prepper bars.
[00:20:22] But some of the questions we actually received from your show that we did the other week,
[00:20:27] and I'm not surprised with over 100,000 people tuning in to watch it, was more questions about
[00:20:33] IRAs.
[00:20:33] How do they work?
[00:20:35] What's the process?
[00:20:36] So I thought no better person to kind of walk us through a transaction and really how
[00:20:41] that works is our CFO, Jacob.
[00:20:46] Yeah, it's a great idea because we had the same questions come in.
[00:20:49] We told them to contact you guys directly.
[00:20:52] Hopefully that was some of the people that contacted you.
[00:20:53] Jacob said, just take us through the typical process.
[00:20:55] Somebody calls you.
[00:20:56] They want to make this decision, but they need more information.
[00:21:00] Sure.
[00:21:01] So the first step is always going to be education, right?
[00:21:04] You need to know what you're getting yourself into, what the process is going to look like
[00:21:07] from A to Z.
[00:21:08] We have a very, very strong team of individuals who have been doing this a long time.
[00:21:11] And are great at walking people through this process who maybe finance isn't their thing.
[00:21:18] Right?
[00:21:18] The reality is that most people have entrusted their finances, whether it be to a financial
[00:21:22] advisor or a family member for most of their lives.
[00:21:26] Right?
[00:21:26] So anytime someone's about to make a big change, it comes with the fear of doing something wrong.
[00:21:30] So our team here specializes in helping, especially first timers, walk through the process of moving
[00:21:35] themselves from their current account, whether it be a 401k, a pension, an existing IRA,
[00:21:42] SEP IRA or Roth, and helping them transfer that tax and penalty free over to a new account that
[00:21:48] could be backed with physical gold and silver.
[00:21:49] The process takes two to three weeks on average for the money to transfer, but it really is
[00:21:54] as simple as three steps.
[00:21:56] We help you walk through an application for your new account.
[00:21:59] We help you call over to your current custodian to help you transfer those funds over.
[00:22:03] And then once those funds land, we help you build your portfolio of gold and silver.
[00:22:07] Like Jonathan said, there's lots of options.
[00:22:09] Not everyone out there is going to be a gold expert.
[00:22:11] We don't expect people to become one overnight, but our team here is really the best when it
[00:22:16] comes to walking people through their options and helping them make an educated decision.
[00:22:21] And that's what I love about you guys.
[00:22:22] When you always present stuff, it's the no pressure thing, right?
[00:22:26] Nobody ever wants pressure from a salesman when you're trying to make a decision and especially
[00:22:29] something that's as important as your financial future.
[00:22:32] And I think it's great.
[00:22:34] That's one thing that people love about you, Jonathan, even on the show is that you were so
[00:22:37] honest about the way you directed people.
[00:22:39] You didn't tell them, oh, no, take your whole IRA, dump it in there.
[00:22:42] You got to do this.
[00:22:42] It's got to be the whole thing or not at all.
[00:22:44] You know, it wasn't that kind of a pitch.
[00:22:46] You talked about, you know, diversification based on age.
[00:22:50] You know, you have to be obviously, you know, much more careful the older you get because
[00:22:55] you have to make sure that your resources are protected.
[00:22:59] You know, so let me ask you this.
[00:23:01] There's a lot of news about Ripple.
[00:23:04] And I think they're saying that XRP is going to be the bridge for gold-backed currencies.
[00:23:11] They think that's going to be the primary currency.
[00:23:13] We know that in the, and I don't know if you guys saw this or not, in the, obviously, the
[00:23:18] Ripple case with the SEC, there's a big story about 2,700 undisclosed contracts that are NDAs,
[00:23:28] that they actually have that many deals negotiated with foreign governments, with banking systems.
[00:23:34] Some of them have come out.
[00:23:36] We've heard some of the stories about how Japan and Russia and China.
[00:23:39] George, throw up that media first so these guys can take a look at it.
[00:23:42] I'd like to get your guys' input on what you think, what may be the impact of this is going
[00:23:46] to be on precious metals.
[00:23:51] So it's a pretty big network that they've established, or at least what they're alleging.
[00:23:55] You can see at the core of those, Brazil, China, obviously India, Russia, South America.
[00:24:02] And we've seen these connections that are getting made.
[00:24:05] A lot of it's online.
[00:24:06] You can find it looking.
[00:24:08] Of course, a lot of those NDA, those nondisclosed documents that they had to give to the SEC,
[00:24:13] none of that's been released yet.
[00:24:15] We know that XRP seems to be kind of on a tear as far as being the coin of choice.
[00:24:22] But obviously, the big question is, how does this impact bullion?
[00:24:26] Because we know that BRICS is accumulating.
[00:24:28] Now, I've also heard something else I want to mention about China when you guys get done
[00:24:32] answering this.
[00:24:33] I've heard a story that I want to relay to you.
[00:24:35] Go ahead, Jonathan.
[00:24:36] Give me your thoughts.
[00:24:38] You know, you bring up a word there that kind of floated right in front of me, connections.
[00:24:43] Because when you look at that chart and you see how many people involved, how many nations
[00:24:49] are involved, it is all about connections and people banding together.
[00:24:53] Because obviously, the Western dominance of fiat currency as we know it is over.
[00:24:58] What's the next evolution that we're seeing?
[00:25:02] It is cryptocurrencies.
[00:25:04] You know, XRP is a very valid cryptocurrency.
[00:25:08] That is obviously, it's like rolling a big ball up a hill right now.
[00:25:12] Obviously, if the Trump administration gets in, I think it's going to blow the cryptocurrency
[00:25:17] market wide open for new ventures.
[00:25:20] Ventures that are stuck in a lot of bureaucracy and red tape to get past so they can be a plan
[00:25:25] of action.
[00:25:26] Is it going to happen this year?
[00:25:28] Probably not.
[00:25:29] Next year?
[00:25:30] Possibly.
[00:25:30] But in the future, yes.
[00:25:32] So this is the natural evolution of money, transactions, banking, digital dollars.
[00:25:38] And then this is where gold really comes a crucial part in this.
[00:25:41] We've heard brick nations banding together, you know, touting new currencies, backing it
[00:25:46] by gold.
[00:25:47] We used to be on the gold standard up until 1971.
[00:25:50] And Nixon took us off and look at the mess we're in today.
[00:25:53] OK, we're coming into a currency that is literally on the brink of, you know, falling off a fiscal
[00:25:59] cliff.
[00:25:59] And we don't want to be a Zimbabwe situation where you've got $1 trillion notes and that
[00:26:04] will buy you a loaf of bread.
[00:26:06] So obviously backing up currencies, which do make a little bit people nervous, digital
[00:26:11] currencies, because, you know, a lot of people, especially the boomers, have that mentality
[00:26:15] that if you can't hold it, you don't own it.
[00:26:18] So having some credibility behind digital currencies, backing it with physical metals
[00:26:23] or something that's precious in the limited supply is a big win in my book.
[00:26:28] And I think, you know, when this happens, not if, but when this happens, you know, I've
[00:26:33] often said that, you know, cryptocurrency is backed by physical metals.
[00:26:36] If that comes to play and it will happen, I believe, in the next five to 10 years, could
[00:26:41] be sooner.
[00:26:42] We could see parabolic prices, $5,000, $7,000, $10,000 just for a price of gold at that point.
[00:26:50] Because when you look at Bitcoin, as an example, and you've got a currency that most people can't
[00:26:56] explain that has reached over $70,000 for one Bitcoin, that's like, you know, it's here,
[00:27:02] it's there.
[00:27:03] You can't touch it.
[00:27:04] You can't hold it.
[00:27:04] But it's a limited amount of supply.
[00:27:06] There's a limited amount of supply of this stuff as well.
[00:27:09] So I think at some point in time, this is going to be pushed to the front.
[00:27:13] And it's going to, like I said, utility here, there's going to be a lot of utility with gold
[00:27:18] married with digital assets.
[00:27:20] And I think that's on the horizon.
[00:27:22] And I'm super excited to see how that unfolds.
[00:27:25] Because if you're a gold holder, when this happens, you are going to be the major benefactor
[00:27:30] and ultimately the winner in that scenario.
[00:27:33] Gotcha.
[00:27:34] Jacob, give me your thoughts.
[00:27:35] Do you take the same position as Jonathan?
[00:27:38] Do you feel like, because a lot of people saw that, I guess, I don't know if it was a
[00:27:42] new high, or obviously it was a new recent high in gold when we hit over 2,500, I think,
[00:27:47] correct?
[00:27:48] Yep.
[00:27:49] Yeah.
[00:27:50] Is that a long-term, is that an all-time high in gold?
[00:27:52] I have no idea if it is.
[00:27:53] Is it?
[00:27:54] It sure is.
[00:27:55] Wow.
[00:27:56] So, you know, that in itself, we talked about silver last time on the show.
[00:28:00] And for those of you that weren't here, I just want to revisit that.
[00:28:03] And then I'm going to throw to you, Jacob.
[00:28:04] And then you can throw to George for his input.
[00:28:07] Last show, we talked about how silver, the industrial, you know,
[00:28:11] uses have gone way up.
[00:28:14] Obviously, the tech uses have gone way up.
[00:28:16] And now there's this new technology.
[00:28:18] We kind of broke the story early.
[00:28:20] I think we were ahead of the curve.
[00:28:21] Now the story is everywhere about this new Samsung EV battery technology.
[00:28:28] And you can charge a car in under nine minutes, full charge.
[00:28:33] The longevity is increased almost triple the distance that the car can run.
[00:28:43] So these new batteries require, or the new EV packs for the whole car.
[00:28:47] So one car requires a kilo of silver.
[00:28:50] I believe that's going to drive silver.
[00:28:52] And the fact that the amount needed for the amount of EVs that are in demand right now far exceeds even the production numbers once you add in the requirements for industrial and technology,
[00:29:03] which obviously that's going to put silver in a short supply.
[00:29:07] So what do you think ripple bricks and what I just threw into as a curveball, you know, where are you?
[00:29:13] Where do you see this heading?
[00:29:14] And do you think that this relationship is ripple going to blow up because of this chart and because of what's getting disclosed?
[00:29:21] Do you think that's maybe the next?
[00:29:23] A lot of people are alleging it's the next Bitcoin or a minimum, the next Ethereum.
[00:29:29] Right.
[00:29:29] Well, more than anything, I would say I do agree with Jonathan.
[00:29:31] I think when you start to see these trends, I call it a sign of the times.
[00:29:36] Right.
[00:29:37] When you see people start to adopt cryptocurrency, move towards gold and silver, what we look at that is the American people don't trust the current financial system and they're looking for an alternative.
[00:29:49] Right.
[00:29:49] And at the end of the day, whether you're in the crypto group or the gold group and there is a lot of overlap between the two, a rising tide raises all ships.
[00:29:57] Right.
[00:29:58] Right.
[00:29:58] So as money flows out of traditional assets like the market and the banking system and it moves towards cryptocurrency, it moves towards gold and silver.
[00:30:06] Obviously, that's good for folks who are in early.
[00:30:09] Right.
[00:30:09] And to speak on this on the silver point, you know, industrial demand last year increased by 300 percent.
[00:30:17] And mining production remained the same.
[00:30:19] You know, that should tell you a thing or two about where supply and demand are going to put us this year next and in the medium long term as well.
[00:30:26] That's why so many professionals, even banks themselves say we should see a hundred plus dollars silver in the next five to ten years.
[00:30:33] And then that I'm very confident.
[00:30:36] Yeah.
[00:30:37] You know, a lot of people were predicting two to three hundred an ounce in a lot of articles this week.
[00:30:42] I was actually shocked at those numbers.
[00:30:44] That music means we're going to take a short break.
[00:30:46] When we come back, I've heard a story that China's got a major problem with fake gold.
[00:30:52] They've had some problem with counterfeit gold.
[00:30:55] That's one of the beauties of Genesis gold.
[00:30:58] Prepper bars, American made.
[00:30:59] You might not have caught Jonathan saying that that's a big deal because there is a lot of gold that has other elements added to it.
[00:31:05] So if you really want pure gold, you've got to go to the right company or you might get some counterfeit Chinese gold.
[00:31:10] Don't go anywhere.
[00:31:10] When we come back, we're going to talk about the American dream and how expensive it is now.
[00:31:16] Live in the dream, George.
[00:31:17] Live in the dream.
[00:31:18] I will when I get my gold bar from Jonathan.
[00:31:20] We'll be right back.
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[00:37:11] Now, we all know China.
[00:37:13] China's been known for fake metals because in the construction industry which I worked in,
[00:37:18] a lot of their metals, like if you bought stainless steel, it was such a low quality that it's rust.
[00:37:26] And this is not only in stainless steel, regular steel.
[00:37:29] So it doesn't surprise me that they're faking gold.
[00:37:33] It just doesn't at this point with them.
[00:37:35] I mean, they're known for counterfeiting, right?
[00:37:37] Isn't that one of their side hustles?
[00:37:40] Counterfeiting luxury goods?
[00:37:43] Absolutely.
[00:37:44] They're the best at counterfeiting.
[00:37:47] And in fact, you know, I've been in this business for a long time.
[00:37:51] Back in, gosh, 1998.
[00:37:54] Okay.
[00:37:54] I remember there was a big hoopla in the office because there was a fake gold one ounce coin that came in.
[00:38:01] Everyone wanted to see the fake coin because no one had ever seen a fake coin before.
[00:38:05] And I remember putting it into my hand.
[00:38:07] Straight away, you can tell it was fake.
[00:38:08] I mean, immediately.
[00:38:10] But it was same size shape.
[00:38:13] The color was off.
[00:38:14] The weight was off.
[00:38:15] But that was the first time a counterfeit coin crossed my hand.
[00:38:19] Now, fast forward five years, 10 years, 15 years.
[00:38:23] Over the years, I started seeing more replicas.
[00:38:26] They started flooding the market.
[00:38:27] And they used to hit my hand.
[00:38:29] And I used to say, oh, straight away, I know it's a fake.
[00:38:32] Maybe just because I've been in the industry for many years and I hold and touch a lot of gold.
[00:38:36] I could tell that these coins were fake.
[00:38:38] I would say the past five years, I cannot tell what's a fake coin and what's a real coin anymore.
[00:38:45] They have become that good.
[00:38:47] And in fact, one of my clients is a gentleman that owns a massive Hollywood studio here in Los Angeles.
[00:38:56] And he wanted me to come to his studios.
[00:38:59] And he said he purchased these Canadian maple leaves years ago.
[00:39:03] And he wanted to know if they were real and if I could come in and authenticate them.
[00:39:07] So I have a machine.
[00:39:08] It's called a Sigma Verifier.
[00:39:10] And it's a little briefcase.
[00:39:12] You pull it out.
[00:39:13] You think it's like a little time machine, it looks like.
[00:39:15] It has all these magic wands and sensors on it.
[00:39:18] And I can touch a piece of metal.
[00:39:20] And it will tell me it will penetrate the metal two to three millimeters.
[00:39:25] So really what it's now doing is looking inside and seeing what's the composition of the alloy.
[00:39:30] Because what they're doing now in China, they're very smart, is they will end up doing 60% gold, 40% tungsten.
[00:39:38] So there is a gold content in there.
[00:39:40] That's what now fools people.
[00:39:41] They've moved away from non-alloys into real gold.
[00:39:45] But what's the purity of it?
[00:39:47] So that's where they start to fool you on these coins.
[00:39:50] And I've had a couple of times where it's even fooled my machine.
[00:39:55] And just a gut instinct tells me I'm not getting a strong reading.
[00:39:59] We're going to have to send this off to some people with some white coats and some bigger machinery that I've got to get tested.
[00:40:05] So that's why I tell people when they purchase gold, and Genesis Gold Group only deals with one specific type of gold, especially when it comes to IRAs, we call it mint direct.
[00:40:18] Mint direct.
[00:40:19] That's the magic word you want to be looking for.
[00:40:21] What is mint direct?
[00:40:22] Exactly what it sounds like.
[00:40:24] You're purchasing coins manufactured by the mint that haven't been touched by human hands that are coming off these presses.
[00:40:31] They're maybe white gloved, they're boxed, they're strapped, they're authenticated, they're guaranteed, and they're moved into depositories not to be touched by human hands unless you're taking possession of the metals at this time.
[00:40:43] So there's also something called secondary market coins.
[00:40:47] The secondary market coins, that's where all these forgeries are happening.
[00:40:50] So maybe someone goes into a local coin shop or even a pawn shop.
[00:40:54] They've got some gold they want to sell.
[00:40:56] The shop may not even know that it's not real.
[00:40:58] And they're buying and selling and buying and selling.
[00:41:00] And you buy this coin.
[00:41:01] It's a secondary market coin, not mint direct.
[00:41:04] And that's where you run the risk of running into a counterfeit coin.
[00:41:08] So especially with, you know, these 3D printers that are out right now, they're able to replicate certifications, boxes to have an exact match.
[00:41:16] So when you are purchasing gold, even for physical delivery, not just for IRA, you want to make sure you're working with a reputable company such as Genesis that provides mint direct coins and has a guarantee behind all of their metals to authenticate the metal.
[00:41:32] So you know as the consumer that you're purchasing real gold.
[00:41:37] So this product, I would say this problem has kind of bubbled to the top and it's not going away.
[00:41:43] So it's very important to make sure that when you're sourcing your gold, that you're sourcing it from a reputable company and that there's a guarantee behind it and you're purchasing mint direct products.
[00:41:54] So remember that terminology, obviously important.
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[00:42:09] I've never heard the terminology mint direct.
[00:42:11] I didn't recognize it.
[00:42:12] I didn't even realize that the counterfeiting had gotten that sophisticated.
[00:42:15] You see props on places like AliExpress and Temu.
[00:42:20] And they say they're props.
[00:42:22] Now, are people buying those and trying to pass them off as real?
[00:42:24] It wouldn't surprise me.
[00:42:26] And again, at the end of the day, counterfeiting is the name of the game when it comes to China.
[00:42:30] They've been doing it for a very long time.
[00:42:32] So let's talk about the American dream.
[00:42:35] It sounds like the American dream is farther out of reach than ever with inflation.
[00:42:41] Now, of course, we know this administration keeps telling us that inflation is at an all-time decreasingly low number.
[00:42:48] I don't know how they can say that.
[00:42:50] It's all around us.
[00:42:51] We see it in everything we deal with, whether it's anything from interest rates to gas prices.
[00:42:56] And of course, we've complained on this show before about the cost of groceries and also other simple items.
[00:43:04] But, you know, she's talking about – Harris is talking about saluting those who work hard and chase their dreams.
[00:43:10] Of course, that's not really that great a deal at the moment because many families are having to hold more than one job, some of them as many as three jobs.
[00:43:19] Not so great.
[00:43:20] It used to be the American dream was much cheaper.
[00:43:24] The American dream now costs more than $150,000 a year for a family of four.
[00:43:30] And that doesn't mean you're going to go out and buy yourself a Lamborghini.
[00:43:33] That means paying your mortgage and buying groceries.
[00:43:36] I want to start before we get fired up here.
[00:43:39] I want to give you some costs.
[00:43:40] So the median cost now for the American dream, and we'll describe what that is in a minute, is about $156,000 a year.
[00:43:46] They say that Hawaii costs $260,000.
[00:43:50] California, $245,000.
[00:43:52] Massachusetts, $242,000.
[00:43:54] New Jersey, George, the American dream will cost you $207,000 a year.
[00:43:59] New Hampshire, $200,000 plus.
[00:44:01] Colorado is teetering on $200,000.
[00:44:04] It's $199,253.
[00:44:05] Maybe the prices will go down now that we've been infiltrated by Venezuelan gangs.
[00:44:10] Maybe the real estate prices will go down.
[00:44:12] Who knows?
[00:44:14] Connecticut, $197,000.
[00:44:16] New York, $194,000.
[00:44:17] I'm actually shocked at the New York number.
[00:44:19] I would have guessed that to be higher.
[00:44:21] Alaska, $186,000.
[00:44:23] And I'm skipping some of them, not because of the number, but I'm actually surprised.
[00:44:27] Nevada surprises me.
[00:44:28] Real estate always used to be inexpensive there.
[00:44:30] Now it's $167,000 a year for the American dream in Nevada.
[00:44:34] Florida is at $159,000, one of the lower ones.
[00:44:37] West Virginia is surprising.
[00:44:39] I don't think a lot of people want to move to West Virginia.
[00:44:41] Maybe I'm wrong.
[00:44:42] $120,000.
[00:44:45] I guess about a decade ago, the price tag was less than a median of $130,000 across the country.
[00:44:52] But after three presidents and pandemics, here we are.
[00:44:55] Jonathan Rose, or I better at least start with George Ballantyne.
[00:44:58] American dream, George.
[00:44:59] What do you think about the American dream in New Jersey?
[00:45:01] Affordable at $207,000?
[00:45:03] That's BS.
[00:45:04] You can't even buy it.
[00:45:05] Listen, I go house shopping because we do flips and stuff.
[00:45:09] And it's crazy the amount of money.
[00:45:12] You see a house on the market for $600,000.
[00:45:15] This is every day I see this.
[00:45:16] And it needs probably anywhere, let's say $100,000 to $200,000 to fix it back up.
[00:45:22] So you have a $600,000 asset price.
[00:45:24] They're selling it.
[00:45:25] People are fighting paying $700,000.
[00:45:27] We've seen this back in Obama days when people were overpaying for houses.
[00:45:32] And what happened?
[00:45:32] Everything started crashing.
[00:45:34] They had the bank bailouts and everything.
[00:45:36] So there's no way $200,000 for it.
[00:45:40] You can't even get an apartment for that.
[00:45:42] You know, it's astronomical, the price.
[00:45:45] I don't know who made that number up.
[00:45:46] But somebody needs to check them.
[00:45:48] That's fake news.
[00:45:48] And they're including lots of other things.
[00:45:51] They're saying that's your mortgage cost and your car payment cost and your insurance and your groceries.
[00:45:56] American Dream.
[00:45:57] Jonathan, give us what are your thoughts?
[00:45:59] American Dream where you're at.
[00:46:00] Lance, George, American Dream is dead.
[00:46:03] Okay.
[00:46:04] That ship is out a long time ago.
[00:46:07] I was very fortunate enough to come here with, you know, big eyes and big dreams back in 1997.
[00:46:13] And I was fortunate enough to, I think, be one of the last people to have the American Dream and start a career and a family out here in America.
[00:46:23] And like, you know, George said, who's coming up with these numbers?
[00:46:27] They're total BS numbers.
[00:46:29] And I think the American Dream is obviously different for a lot of people.
[00:46:33] And look, we're, you know, people aren't suckers anymore.
[00:46:37] And they realize the pain at the pump, the price of food's on the rise.
[00:46:42] People we speak to, they can't retire.
[00:46:45] They maybe have to work longer, take out second jobs.
[00:46:48] And the American Dream has long gone.
[00:46:51] And what's interesting is these out-of-touch career politicians, you know, Kamala being one of them.
[00:46:57] And I'm not mentioning any names, but she lives in Brentwood.
[00:47:01] And I know one of her neighbors.
[00:47:03] And she said to me, Kamala, let me tell you something about that woman.
[00:47:06] She's in her house, in her pajamas all day or laying in her garden.
[00:47:10] She does not leave the house.
[00:47:12] I mean, these people are so out of touch because she's in her 20-plus million-dollar mansion in Brentwood, right?
[00:47:18] And she's talking about inflation and people feeling the pain.
[00:47:22] And, you know, she can't even describe or spell the word inflation.
[00:47:27] So I think, you know, we have some major issues on hand.
[00:47:31] They can't be tackled all at once.
[00:47:34] They're not going to disappear all at once.
[00:47:36] But the American Dream is very sad.
[00:47:37] I mean, for me growing up in Europe, all I wanted to do was, you know, come to America.
[00:47:42] I remember from an early age, I used to tell my mother, I think I was like seven when I'm older.
[00:47:47] I'm going to move to America.
[00:47:49] My dad used to come home from work.
[00:47:51] And he sat me down one night.
[00:47:53] He'd say, you know, stop telling your mom you're leaving and moving to America.
[00:47:56] She keeps getting really upset.
[00:47:58] And it was almost like I talked to this, you know, into existence.
[00:48:02] And I did move, you know, when I was 21.
[00:48:04] And I ended up moving to America.
[00:48:06] And things were much easier back then.
[00:48:09] Today, the American Dream for people to come over here, it's very difficult.
[00:48:15] They're dealing with divide.
[00:48:16] They're dealing with hate.
[00:48:17] They're dealing with unobtainable housing prices, unattainable jobs, a bad economy.
[00:48:25] So American Dream is more of an American nightmare.
[00:48:29] That's my opinion.
[00:48:30] You know, they say that only one in eight people earns enough in a 10-year period to even participate
[00:48:37] in what they call the American Dream.
[00:48:39] And a lot of this inflation rate has been driven by the cost of essentials.
[00:48:45] And we'll go into detail on that.
[00:48:46] But are you feeling the squeeze on essentials where you're at, Jacob?
[00:48:50] And what do you hear from your neighbors and friends?
[00:48:52] What do they think about the American Dream?
[00:48:55] I mean, that's a horrendous number.
[00:48:57] If you think about America and everything we stand for as a country, that one in eight people are able to comfortably afford their essentials and take care of their families.
[00:49:05] It really hurts to hear that.
[00:49:08] And you feel it anywhere you go.
[00:49:11] You go to the grocery store or the gas pump.
[00:49:13] And to piggyback off what Jonathan was saying about Kamala Harris, I saw an interview yesterday who likened Kamala Harris to someone running for sixth-grade class president.
[00:49:26] They say, you're going to get candy and you're going to get free pizza and you're going to get lollipops every day.
[00:49:32] We're going to fix that rusty jungle gym.
[00:49:35] We're going to get rid of the rusty jungle gym.
[00:49:37] Right.
[00:49:37] Who wants new monkey bars?
[00:49:39] Right.
[00:49:40] And at the end of the day, she's been in a position of power for three and a half years.
[00:49:45] And they're saying, you know, we're going to fix the problems that we created somehow magically.
[00:49:50] And she doesn't know a damn thing about what she's doing.
[00:49:53] And the reality is that if she takes the White House somehow in the next couple months, we're going to have big, big problems.
[00:50:00] Yeah.
[00:50:00] I mean, she's naive.
[00:50:02] She's inexperienced.
[00:50:03] She's not very bright.
[00:50:05] She's proven her lack of intelligence.
[00:50:06] But, you know, let's face it, to go from being the least popular VP in history to being all of a sudden the most popular presidential candidate based on polling, which I still have.
[00:50:16] I've never been polled in my life.
[00:50:18] I don't know if you guys have been polled.
[00:50:19] I've never had anybody call me and said, who are you going to vote for?
[00:50:21] Nobody ever does that.
[00:50:22] I never get that.
[00:50:23] I don't even know where these polling numbers come from, where they say that she's beating Donald Trump.
[00:50:28] I don't know of anybody that I'm familiar with that's going to vote for her over Donald Trump.
[00:50:33] But, you know, you're right.
[00:50:34] If you're living in Brentwood, you're living in a mansion, you're probably not worried about essentials.
[00:50:38] It's probably low priority.
[00:50:40] Well, just like, okay, so let me add something to that.
[00:50:43] If you look at the health, like Kamala Harris, she wants health care for all.
[00:50:47] If you look at Canada, their health system is terrible.
[00:50:51] Like people with money come here for health.
[00:50:53] So why do the rich people want that they don't care?
[00:50:56] Because if it goes into effect, those rich people can afford to pay for better doctors versus everyday people.
[00:51:04] They have to take what they get from health care for all.
[00:51:06] It's the worst system to ever do.
[00:51:08] You know, she flip-flops.
[00:51:10] You know, socialized subsidies, aren't they just another name for bribes?
[00:51:14] Voter bribes?
[00:51:15] You know, we're going to give you a free cell phone.
[00:51:16] We're being a slave.
[00:51:17] We're going to give you a higher rate of food stamp.
[00:51:20] We're going to give you a free health care.
[00:51:21] Vote for me.
[00:51:22] It's another name for slavery.
[00:51:24] That's all it is.
[00:51:25] You know, one thing I'll say is, you know, the American dream may be kind of thwarted right now, kind of be dashed.
[00:51:32] But people still want to come here because, you know, it's a great nation, right?
[00:51:36] I know.
[00:51:37] Look at all the illegals coming in.
[00:51:38] Yeah.
[00:51:39] Let's not, like, take that away.
[00:51:42] It's just all these bad fiscal policies.
[00:51:44] I mean, I can't speak.
[00:51:46] I mean, look, I'm from London, England.
[00:51:49] It's like what's happening in London, England right now is, like, it makes me scared that that's what's going to happen to America.
[00:51:55] Things are way worse over there.
[00:51:57] But I will say.
[00:51:58] Over my dead body, Jonathan.
[00:51:59] I want to tell you something, Jonathan.
[00:52:00] We're going to die trying.
[00:52:01] Tommy Robinson is a friend of ours, and he agrees with you.
[00:52:05] He believes that what we're seeing in the U.K. is just an – because, obviously, their invasion started sooner than ours.
[00:52:11] They've been dealing with it for a couple years, and now it's gotten ramped up where now they're arresting 11-year-olds for going to protests, which is frightening.
[00:52:19] Tommy Robinson predictably says that that is coming to the U.S. very soon based on our current timeline of invasors.
[00:52:28] Hold on.
[00:52:28] If you look at Colorado real quick, Aurora, Colorado, Venezuelan gangs took over a whole apartment building.
[00:52:35] Whole apartment building.
[00:52:37] And the governor says it's just imagination.
[00:52:39] Yeah.
[00:52:40] So you ever see the movie New Jack City?
[00:52:42] New Jack City?
[00:52:43] No.
[00:52:43] That's exactly what it is.
[00:52:45] They're taking over that building like New Jack City.
[00:52:48] Yeah.
[00:52:48] I mean –
[00:52:49] Go ahead, Jonathan.
[00:52:50] Give me your thoughts.
[00:52:50] U.K.
[00:52:51] No.
[00:52:51] Is it here soon?
[00:52:53] Is it here soon?
[00:52:54] I think, look, it's going to take a little bit longer.
[00:52:57] But, you know, when we had Maggie Thatcher in power, the Iron Lady, she kind of reminds me of, like, you know, Reagan and Trump, you know, who are very ironclad on closing borders, having a strong military.
[00:53:11] And I remember growing up as a kid, like, they were probably two of the most important factors people would vote on.
[00:53:17] Besides fiscal responsibility, people would want closed borders and they would want a strong military.
[00:53:22] And when Maggie Thatcher got overthrown and snaked in the back by, I think it was a gentleman called Michael Heseltine, she came out of power.
[00:53:30] And then all the snakes started coming in, all these rats, and they started, you know, lining their pockets with money.
[00:53:36] And then the country went to pot.
[00:53:38] And we've seen it firsthand, the migrant crisis.
[00:53:41] Look, I'm not against migrants coming into the country.
[00:53:43] I'm against them coming into the country illegally.
[00:53:46] So there's a right way to do this and there's a wrong way to do this.
[00:53:49] So when it's just like a free for all and you're letting in criminals, you're letting in rapists, you're letting in people who have, you know, criminal syndications and cartels, that's a big issue.
[00:54:02] And when we're seeing these apartment blocks taken over by Venezuelan gangs and our current law enforcement's, like, denying it or not helping us, it's almost like a free for all.
[00:54:13] So now I wonder why people, you know, want their guns and right to bear arms.
[00:54:17] You need it. You want to be able to protect what you have.
[00:54:20] So, you know, I'd hate to say that we're going to the same direction as England, but I think, please God, Trump gets in.
[00:54:27] You know, his stance on the border and deportation, I think for me personally, that would be high up on my list.
[00:54:34] Yeah, I think that's well said.
[00:54:37] George, throw up the next piece of media.
[00:54:39] I don't agree necessarily.
[00:54:41] This came out of one of the stories I was actually going through.
[00:54:44] These essentials seem even low to me at the current numbers.
[00:54:47] But let's just go ahead and take a look at that.
[00:54:48] Median housing expenses, you see that from a cost in 2014 of about $17,000.
[00:54:54] They're saying it's $33,000 now.
[00:54:57] Car expenses, a four-wheel drive SUV, I think the number's higher on this.
[00:55:00] I don't think that's the same time frame.
[00:55:02] I think it's a higher number than that because I know that the material costs overseas for the new car manufacturers have gone way up.
[00:55:10] Medical expenses.
[00:55:12] I'm also saying, do you guys believe that to 2014 to 24 that medical expenses have only gone up?
[00:55:18] It looks like about $3,000.
[00:55:19] I'd have to say that's not correct.
[00:55:22] I think it's a much higher number.
[00:55:23] Jacob, what do you think about these numbers that they're using?
[00:55:25] They seem low to me.
[00:55:26] Am I wrong?
[00:55:28] I mean, I'm going to echo George here and say, who came up with these numbers?
[00:55:32] That's got to be fake news.
[00:55:33] You know?
[00:55:34] I mean, you look at the average hit that Americans are taking to the pocketbook every time they want to buy anything or any service.
[00:55:41] You know, I think these numbers are incredibly low.
[00:55:44] But one thing that we know, whether it's the banking system or inflation or the jobs numbers, is the numbers that we see, right, you or I, are very rarely going to be the real ones.
[00:55:54] Right?
[00:55:54] Because they're painting a certain narrative that they want the American people to believe for just long enough for them to try to win this election in November.
[00:56:04] And then, you know, all bets are off.
[00:56:06] I mean, if you look at the utilities, just we'll take gas and electric.
[00:56:10] There's no way that it went up way more than that in the difference.
[00:56:15] I mean, you got gas at, let's say it was $1.99.
[00:56:20] Now it's maybe floating at $3.09 right now by my house.
[00:56:23] But it's been gone up even higher than that.
[00:56:25] And it hasn't really gone down less than $3.
[00:56:28] And that's just gas.
[00:56:30] But electric on the house and gas on the house, electric, that skyrocket.
[00:56:35] People can't even afford that anymore.
[00:56:37] Car expenses, $2,000.
[00:56:38] Yeah, I agree with both of you guys.
[00:56:40] Car expenses.
[00:56:40] I think you nailed it, George.
[00:56:41] If you look at the price of a car, they're saying $2,000.
[00:56:44] Uh-huh, right.
[00:56:45] No, the price of a car has went up.
[00:56:47] You know, but what about the interest in financing on the price of cars when you're buying it?
[00:56:52] That also went up too.
[00:56:53] So that's, yeah, these are just fake numbers.
[00:56:55] You know they're going to call you conspiracy theorists now, Jacob.
[00:56:58] You're all right with that?
[00:56:59] Yeah, yeah.
[00:56:59] I can live with that.
[00:57:00] It's okay.
[00:57:00] You know why?
[00:57:01] Because every conspiracy came true.
[00:57:03] So, you know.
[00:57:04] Yeah.
[00:57:04] Everything's based in truth.
[00:57:06] Throughout that next media, this is what they call the extras.
[00:57:09] You know, this is champagne wishes and caviar dreams, I guess.
[00:57:12] I don't know.
[00:57:13] It doesn't seem like that.
[00:57:14] Family vacation.
[00:57:15] Looks like it's nearly doubled.
[00:57:18] Restaurants.
[00:57:20] That number could be correct.
[00:57:21] I know the last time I went to a restaurant, it was sticker shock.
[00:57:24] You know, I went out with just another couple.
[00:57:27] I looked at the bill and I was at, you know, I actually picked up the bill.
[00:57:29] And I was actually surprised at how much everything was.
[00:57:34] Entertainment.
[00:57:35] I don't know.
[00:57:36] That might be somewhat after.
[00:57:37] I guess it depends what we're looking on for entertainment.
[00:57:38] If you look at entertainment, Lance, it says that price from 2014.
[00:57:42] Yeah.
[00:57:43] Yeah.
[00:57:43] So, I mean, let's just.
[00:57:44] Well, 2014 to 2024.
[00:57:46] So, if you just.
[00:57:47] That's the change they're showing.
[00:57:48] If you just go from 2020 when Biden took office and the difference.
[00:57:54] That's what.
[00:57:55] Yeah, I'm sure a lot of that.
[00:57:56] Yeah, they do this so they don't put the fall on Biden inflation.
[00:58:00] That's what.
[00:58:01] I mean, put the numbers from 2020 when he took office.
[00:58:04] Okay, George, I'll say this, just looking at this, the family vacation.
[00:58:08] I bet you if we had a flood of calls in right now, the average family just even trying to take their kids to to Disneyland.
[00:58:17] It's probably cost that family, you know, like two months of of just salary.
[00:58:22] So these these numbers are these numbers are way off.
[00:58:25] The expense for a family right now is astronomical where people aren't taking vacations or if it's a staycation.
[00:58:32] But even if they're taking a vacation here in the U.S. and you're just going to a theme park, it's it's it's almost like daylight robbery.
[00:58:39] That's that's what's happening right now for these families that are, you know, trying to make ends meet and and they want to go away somewhere.
[00:58:46] And, you know, where everyone's filling it in the pocket.
[00:58:49] And that that's a fact.
[00:58:51] You know, somebody a rat dog in the chat.
[00:58:53] Just it's a great great point.
[00:58:54] This is not too long ago.
[00:58:55] Remember paying 19, 19, 20 bucks for an oil change.
[00:58:58] Now it's like 70.
[00:59:00] Yeah.
[00:59:01] Yeah, that's a big day.
[00:59:02] That's like a $50 difference.
[00:59:04] Throw up the next media so we can get that going, too, because I obviously I know we're pressing our time here.
[00:59:08] We're probably going to go a little over.
[00:59:10] Are you guys OK to do that or are you short on time today?
[00:59:14] Yeah, I think we can we can squeeze in a couple more minutes with you.
[00:59:17] That'd be great because because obviously I'd like to cover at least this story.
[00:59:20] Taxes and savings, obviously savings near and dear, 401ks, IRAs.
[00:59:26] What do you think?
[00:59:27] You guys think these numbers are accurate?
[00:59:32] Total taxes and 401k.
[00:59:34] This is this is a say.
[00:59:36] Yeah, no, this is definitely not.
[00:59:37] I mean, a lot of people don't even have savings.
[00:59:40] You know, they're they're they're living paycheck to paycheck right now.
[00:59:44] You know, people want to save.
[00:59:45] They just don't have the means to save because consumer goods are just just too expensive.
[00:59:50] So, again, I don't know where they're getting these numbers.
[00:59:53] If it's that the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
[00:59:56] But it's it's the rule books needs to be rewritten.
[01:00:00] This is archaic math.
[01:00:02] And and and this math is wrong.
[01:00:04] It's off.
[01:00:05] You know, the people who are, you know, going to work every day, working, you know, eight to 12 hour shifts or double shifts.
[01:00:12] Um, the rule book needs to be rewritten because, again, this is just smoke and mirrors and this isn't reality.
[01:00:19] Well, you look at taxes, too, though.
[01:00:22] Kamala Harris, she one of her proposals is let's say you own a house for two hundred thousand.
[01:00:27] You still live in the house and three years from now, the house, the value goes up to six hundred thousand.
[01:00:32] She wants to tax you on that capital gains, even though you didn't sell the house, but you still live in there.
[01:00:37] Four hundred thousand.
[01:00:38] You married.
[01:00:38] That's that's crazy.
[01:00:41] That's unrealized capital gains tax.
[01:00:43] She's she's suggesting that you should pay twenty five percent.
[01:00:46] So if you bought your house for one hundred grand, it's worth five hundred now.
[01:00:49] She wants you to pay one hundred thousand dollars on the unrealized gains.
[01:00:52] Twenty five percent of the four hundred thousand.
[01:00:54] Assuming you don't have anything and expenses towards the house.
[01:00:57] Nobody's ever done that before.
[01:00:59] You know, but again, it's always about taxing us more.
[01:01:02] How about spending less?
[01:01:03] How about the government just gets rid of some of this big government overspending and this this bad business decision running?
[01:01:12] Because let's face it, any other business that was thirty five trillion dollars in debt would have gone out of business.
[01:01:16] Oh, I don't know.
[01:01:18] Twenty five, thirty, forty years ago.
[01:01:20] You can't run into deficit for that long, but that's what our government does.
[01:01:24] They think it's, you know, just print some more money.
[01:01:25] And of course, that's what's causing this inflation.
[01:01:28] But it's also doing something else.
[01:01:31] John Wells Fargo's John LaForge just came out.
[01:01:34] This is why I wanted to make you guys stay for a little longer.
[01:01:36] He's calling the gold rally to twenty five hundred with just the next stop in the gold super cycle.
[01:01:44] What do you guys think about that, Jacob?
[01:01:46] I'm going to throw to you first.
[01:01:47] This is near and dear to your heart.
[01:01:49] So I got to start with you.
[01:01:50] I mean, obviously, we we remain bullish on gold.
[01:01:54] That's why we're in the business.
[01:01:55] But we believe in its use cases always.
[01:01:58] Right.
[01:01:58] There's always a super cycle to the audience so they understand maybe what that means.
[01:02:02] Sure, sure.
[01:02:03] So absolutely.
[01:02:05] So John LaForge, like you said, was talking about gold hitting twenty five hundred dollars an ounce.
[01:02:10] Right.
[01:02:11] And then he went on to say that it would likely hit three thousand or an increase of about twenty percent in the next couple of years.
[01:02:18] And this is just the beginning of that cycle.
[01:02:20] A lot of people see those numbers going way higher.
[01:02:23] And this does provide one of the unique opportunities which happens in the market cycles where not only does gold give you the stability that folks are looking for in times like these.
[01:02:33] But there is a unique opportunity to increase the value of your holdings significantly.
[01:02:38] Our clients have experienced it with gold up, you know, twenty seven percent in recent months up to the twenty five hundred dollar plus highs.
[01:02:46] You know, it really does create a strong case for diversification and at least starting the conversation.
[01:02:54] Right. Speak with experts and see if this could be a fit for you.
[01:02:58] You know, in the first three years of the gold market in twenty and twenty one, you know, gold's performance was kind of not it was disappointing compared to other commodities.
[01:03:06] And I think so many other commodities doubled.
[01:03:10] It looks like gold is finally reacting to that.
[01:03:12] And that's, I think, part of this suggested super cycle.
[01:03:15] What are your thoughts on this, Jonathan?
[01:03:17] Do you think that this is a reaction that gold's finally doing what it should have already done and that it's heading in that direction because every other commodity has already doubled?
[01:03:26] Yeah.
[01:03:27] Yeah. I mean, you've probably heard myself and even Jacob mention this, that we say you don't wait to buy gold.
[01:03:32] You buy gold and wait. Right.
[01:03:34] And when you looked at the first what I would say the first super cycle was maybe from, you know, 2001 to 2017, 18.
[01:03:42] OK, and then now we're seeing more instability in the market than we've ever seen before, whether it's international conflict, Russia, Ukraine, Israel, the Middle East, banking crisis, real estate, whether it's overseas or domestically here, could be the first domino to fall.
[01:03:59] An over high stock market, currency devaluations.
[01:04:03] The list goes on and on and on and on.
[01:04:04] And when you pick up gold, it's like a can at the supermarket, protects against market instability, protects against downturn, you know, protects against inflation.
[01:04:14] Gold does what it says on the tin.
[01:04:16] And when you look at what we have in front of us right now, we say often that we don't have a crystal ball, but we have a pretty good roadmap.
[01:04:23] Gold is really forged to take that next jump to new historical highs.
[01:04:29] And I believe keep climbing to altitudes that are actually going to like blow people away.
[01:04:35] And I think that we're at the very beginning of a very exciting journey with gold and even silver.
[01:04:41] I know Jacob was talking about, you know, the silver, the industrial jump.
[01:04:45] I think he said 300 percent in silver, if I'm not mistaken.
[01:04:49] So when you look at commodities such as silver and gold and you look at an industrial use, you look at a currency use.
[01:04:58] They're really now pushed to the forefront of everything when you're looking at investments as an integral part of a balanced portfolio.
[01:05:05] So when you look forward, I think it's very important to include gold and silver, both assets, physical commodities, not gold ETFs, not electronically traded funds, not gold mining stocks.
[01:05:18] Physical gold. Physical gold. If you don't hold it, you don't own it.
[01:05:21] Whether you're putting it into an IRA or 401k, whether you're just physically holding onto it, keeping it home safe in a safety deposit box that you own.
[01:05:30] As long as you have it at hand, that's going to be key for the next, I believe, five, seven to 10 years.
[01:05:37] And again, folks, if you want an education about this, that's where it all starts.
[01:05:41] They can go to the bigmiggold.com.
[01:05:44] We actually have a wealth protection guide.
[01:05:46] I know we're wrapping up, so I just want to kind of share this with your viewers.
[01:05:50] And it will show them how to purchase gold and silver at the lowest possible prices, which types of coins or bars will be better suited for a long-term hold.
[01:06:00] And learn how simple it is to qualify your IRA, 401k and other retirement plans, tax-free and penalty-free.
[01:06:08] And again, this is all information that we've put into a concise format so you can digest and easily get the knowledge that we believe people require.
[01:06:17] And they can get that just by going to the bigmiggold.com.
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[01:06:24] So again, education is key.
[01:06:26] George, you're holding up two hands.
[01:06:29] Yeah, two hands.
[01:06:30] One for the silver.
[01:06:31] And the gold one.
[01:06:32] See, I knew what you were doing there.
[01:06:33] Look at that shot.
[01:06:34] Just look at that, John.
[01:06:36] I'm going to superimpose this one for you.
[01:06:39] So yeah, I think knowledge is key.
[01:06:42] And an informed investor is a better investor.
[01:06:44] We say this over and over again.
[01:06:46] And we want to share this knowledge and show people how easy it is to get started and why people choose Genesis Gold Group to roll over IRAs and purchase assets like gold and silver.
[01:06:58] There's a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it.
[01:07:01] And we like to show people the correct way and to make sure they're working with good people, with the same morals and values that your listeners have.
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[01:07:34] You know this show is always about education.
[01:07:36] Hopefully you like the education you got today.
[01:07:38] Again, we won't be here next Friday.
[01:07:40] We'll be here the following Friday.
[01:07:41] So that's every other Friday we'll be doing the show for now.
[01:07:43] We may add more.
[01:07:44] Seems like lots of interest.
[01:07:46] We already had lots and lots of views over at Rumble and on the other platforms.
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[01:07:55] I mean, the reason I tell you to do it now is because it's one of those things.
[01:07:58] It doesn't mean you have to make the decision instantly.
[01:08:00] And here's the thing.
[01:08:01] When you call Genesis, if you have additional questions, you can always ask for Jacob or Jonathan.
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[01:08:21] These are the guys you can always ask if you still have questions when you get to that point.
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[01:09:14] So Big Ming show, obviously Global Finance Forum.
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