Global Finance Forum Geopolitical Economy w/ Keith Heit |EP859

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[00:00:33] America Great Again! The Big Mig Show. Well, good morning and welcome back to The Big Mig Show. Of course, I'm your host, Lance Migliaccio, with my ride-or-die co-host, George Ballantyne. It's tip of the spear, edge of the knife, because of course, if Liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. And we do that every single episode on this show. It's what it's all about.

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[00:01:30] He's doing the best work he can to try to over deliver to get them. You know where my 10 Bitcoin is? Where is it, buddy? It's with my gold prepper bar from Jonathan Rose. Oh, I know. He owes you a gold prepper bar. I know. I know. There was a promise. I don't know. The mail maybe. It just got lost, I think. I don't know. I know. But maybe you've got an opportunity to grease the skids with that. We've got the director of operations joining us here in a minute. So I brought it up. Get it right off the bat. And I figured you would. I know that George is one of those people. He still has his community and money.

[00:01:59] He's like a baby elephant. He hasn't forgotten anything. I don't. And he will bring it up at the most inopportune moment if he can. And he strikes like a cobra. That's how he does it. I've seen him do it many times. All right. Well, look. You know what the show is all about. There's tons going on. The geopolitical environment. For me, it's complicated, right? I guess there's a ceasefire. I don't really know if it's going to happen. I don't trust the IRGC. I don't trust the Ayatollah. I don't trust the Basij. I don't even know who's going on in Iran at this point.

[00:02:29] Your guess is as good as mine. I know a lot of people say it's the IRGC and they don't want to comply. And are they really going to give us all the uranium? I don't trust the Iranians. I trust the Persian people. I think the Iranian leadership is dangerous. But listen, you know, again, if you love Rumble, Rumble premium with perplexity. If you're paying for perplexity otherwise, don't just pay over there. Come over to Rumble. Pay for the premium. That's a way to thank Chris and the team for all the great work they're doing. And that's how we do it here.

[00:02:57] I'm excited because, you know, it's been a minute and we and we feel like we've dropped the ball on you guys. We used to have Jonathan Rose come on regularly from Genesis Gold Group. And what I loved about him is he's not a high pressure guy. He's a knowledge guy. And of course, being from England, everything he said makes him sound like he went to Cambridge and he's a genius. And he is a genius in finance. He knew an awful lot, but he's so busy with everything he's doing. We've got a new director of operations joining us. The reason we're doing this is a reason. You can't make excuses for Jonathan.

[00:03:26] He just doesn't want to get beat up again. He's still he's still sour about the loss. And, you know, 1776, the loss back then. Yeah. Yeah. He's afraid. He doesn't want to give my gold prepper bar. Don't you know exactly. I'm more happy Keith is here. How about that? Yeah. Okay. So look, here's the deal. Geopolitical, you know, it's going on all over. Right. You got Ukraine just bombed inside of Russia. I think Putin is going to lose his patience very soon. I have a feeling that the Zelensky might have made some of his last moves here. But that's the thing.

[00:03:55] You don't really know you're struggling. You want to know about finance, you know, and you know, you guys know I don't like infomercials. I like people that have a deep knowledge base. And that's what Keith Height. He's the new director of operations over Genesis Gold Group. He's been 20 years in private business in Las Vegas community. He's got a UNLV business degree. And the truth of the matter is the guy. I've talked to him, you know, I've just gotten to know him recently. He knows a lot.

[00:04:20] And I wanted to get him on the show because I wanted you guys to really be able to look at everything and say, okay, what are my next moves? How do I benefit from what's going on in the economy? How do I benefit from what this administration is doing? And the great thing about the guys at Genesis, of course, you guys know about BlockTrust IRA. You know that George and I are crypto guys, but we're also gold people, gold and silver. We have bullion. I got bullion my dad gave me as a child. And what I like about what we're going to do today is we're going to try to tie in kind of what we think the future holds.

[00:04:48] And remember, nothing on the show is financial advice, but Keith Height is a true expert. He's done after school work programs for school just for 12 years. He's been in the gold and silver market since 2011. So he's been through the ups and downs. He wasn't in there when the Hunt brothers tried to corner the market, but he came in, you know, later on and really got to be an expert. And I think that this is important. It's important for you guys because I want you guys to be prepared. We always say, you know, educate and unify the country one episode at a time.

[00:05:16] So this is all about educating you on the financial end, which we haven't done this in a little while. We were doing the global finance forum every Friday. You guys love the show. But then Jonathan just got too darn busy and we just felt like we would have been doing a disservice because I'm not the expert. These guys are. So let's bring him in. There's no reason to leave Keith backstage any longer than we have to. Let's get him in here, George. All right. Welcome to the big financial markets, right? Because everybody's always kind of a little unhappy. Let me ask you about this. Oh, George, we just lost. I got it. I'm bringing it. Don't worry. Okay.

[00:05:46] Let's get the audience a little more of your background and kind of explain why you got into gold and silver and kind of, you know, what your experience has been. Well, first off, I want to thank both you gentlemen for having us back on the show and having me on the show. Personally, I've been a big fan of both of you for quite some time. I know I was telling you backstage, you know, recently that I kind of consider you guys. I like to coin you the the non GMO of the podcast world, as I as I like to say it because you guys just come on with raw truth.

[00:06:16] I mean, you really say it how it is. You don't feel you don't really gaslight anybody. You don't you don't say a bunch of crazy stuff. You kind of stick to the basics and and give the opportunity for all your viewers to really digest the information they need to and kind of go with it. And with that being said, again, I really appreciate the opportunity to come on and to answer your question. Listen, Las Vegas is a very dynamic city.

[00:06:38] You know, when I came out of UNLV in the early 90s with a business degree, you know, I was I was kind of looking around and I think like a lot of people, you know, you can go to school, you can get educated to get this degree. And then you get dumped out into the real world and you're like, oh, my God, you know, everything they taught you, even though it was on paper and pen and you put it together, sometimes it really doesn't work like that. So, you know, we took some bumps and bruises and my father and I got real fortunate. You know, we were able to be involved in some investment world stuff, you know, on the back end of some finance instruments.

[00:07:06] And we did really, really well. And then we got this grandeur idea because my sister was kind of sitting out there and she was looking for it to do something. And, you know, we this is going to sound a little crazy. We got into the tanning salon business, believe it or not, of all places on planet Earth to open up tanning salons where it's, you know, 200 degrees five months a year in Las Vegas. And one thing led to another. And then, you know, 13 years later, we went from one store to basically 13 to 14 units.

[00:07:34] We had about 150 people working for us. We were very successful. And then it was time to change. You know, we had gotten out in early 2006 and thank the good Lord, because as all of us know that it really hit it. You know, when late 2007, 2008 hit with the financial crisis with all the mortgage bank loans and Las Vegas obviously was one of the first ones that really got decimated.

[00:07:56] And we were smart enough to sit on the sidelines with that. And then the gold and silver came around really in 2010, 2011. And the biggest reason that we had gotten involved in it. We were just watching so many pieces fall apart. I mean, you watched as the mortgages went to hell in a handbag. You watched as businesses were getting beaten to death. You weren't able to do really anything with your money. I mean, the markets were in turmoil.

[00:08:25] And, you know, I looked at my father and I said, you know, hey, why don't we take X amount and why don't we start kind of asset protecting what we had? You know, we had quite a bit at the time and we have to kind of protect this. And we looked at it and looked at it and we were very fortunate because we got in early. You know, when we started really looking at portfolio protection with precious metals, we were fortunate on the silver end. We went a little bit heavier with silver versus gold. And our cost basis was $11, $12 an ounce.

[00:08:54] And that's probably laughable at this point in Junction. And we never kind of looked back. And we just kept building it and building it. And next thing you know, you fast forward, you know, some 15 years later. And, you know, we're sitting on quite a bit. And, you know, we took some lessons along the way. And then Genesis Gold kind of showed up, you know, and I had the opportunity to meet with, you know, with Jonathan and their board and sit down and see if we can put some stuff together.

[00:09:19] And we did and kind of never looked back and really became educated on the whole entire background of the gold and silver business from the back end of looking at it from the retail side and what it really does and what it really can't do. And then the learning curve over the last couple of years has been just astronomical for me professionally as to how precious metals really work, you know, and it is it's a mixed bag of tricks. It really is to a certain extent.

[00:09:46] Well, that's why you need experts on anything. Right. That's why we always say for George and I, we're not financial experts by any means, although we're pretty well read, pretty experienced. You know, it's funny. You mentioned tanning salons. I owned part of dark tan with Robbie Siegler. How funny. And if you know Siegler and dark tan had a hundred locations or something, he sold out course now he's in the health club business and we sold out the couple that I had. I had five of them with him here in this region. He did really well. He knew the model. He was very good at what he did him and his wife.

[00:10:15] And so interesting stuff that we have a little bit of a similar background. But, you know, my dad was kind of a he'd lived through the depression and he believed that you had to have plan ABC. He didn't ever believe that it was only one thing. And he, you know, so he had he had a certain amount of gold and silver. Of course, he passed on to me when he passed away. He always gave us gold and silver as Christmas gifts. We would get, you know, gold, maybe a gold, you know, maybe, you know, half an ounce or we get, you know, some silver coins or he did that every year.

[00:10:43] It was in our stockings at Christmas time. And I held on to all that. I didn't ever get rid of any of it. I just held it and I continue to hold it probably at some point. I'll give it to my daughter. Hopefully I won't need it. But the point is, that's the thing. Asset protection, diversification. You know, you never know what the economic turmoil is and the geopolitical landscape. You know, George, you and I have talked about this so many damn times that it's confusing. Right. You don't know one minute, you know, they're Iran is under attack and then then they're at the negotiating table and then it stops again.

[00:11:11] Same thing for Ukraine and Zelensky. And it doesn't matter whether you talk about what's going on in northern Africa. And there's so many, you know, things that come into play. And I think that's where the confusion is for the audience. George, you feel like I don't know, sometimes it's hard to get the message through because even for us, we disseminate, we take, we use AI and we do a lot of other things to go through all the information. But yet I don't know how to give people the definitive answer. They hear me, well, how much silver should I buy? How much gold should I buy? What should my diversification look like? George, you feel like sometimes the audience has got a confusion about that because I do.

[00:11:42] I mean, listen, when it comes to investing, especially in geopolitical, there's a storm out there and, you know, more or less. Iran and Israel and us fighting, you know, it hurts the markets. It hurts everything across the board. You know, one of the main commodities oil, when oil goes up, you know, everything goes up because trucks, cars, everything uses, you know, gas to function. So things go up and people financially, they get scared or even with like, let's say crypto.

[00:12:11] Crypto has been stagnant for what, five months now? Maybe six. And it's all because of the CLERIAC not being passed because it's the fear of the unknown. People fear things. But, you know, now that like you brought up the Iran deal. So the Strait of Hormuz is now fully open. I know they're going to clear out the mines, Iran and stuff, but it's fully open. Ships are starting to, a lot of ships have been waiting. They're going to be going through. Oil is dropping, you know, the barrel.

[00:12:41] I think it's not, somebody said it was 80. I'm not sure the price. I don't want to misquote. But, you know, when there's stability, people feel more confident to invest in stuff. But listen, you can never go wrong pressure metals. I don't care what from the, from the, from its inception of when it was discovered, gold, silver, even others, it always gone up in value. So you can never go wrong, invest in that. And it'll be a safe, safe bet.

[00:13:11] If you're, you know, want to be like a safe investor. But listen, if I had more extra money to buy gold and silver, I'd buy more right now. Just think, look, silver went up to a high, it was 120 at one point. And it went back down. It's at, I think, almost $71. Yeah, $71. Yeah. Gold is at almost $4,400, $4378. I think, what was gold's high? $5,000 at one point? Yeah, it was, it was.

[00:13:40] So give, I say, I'm good at predicting by the way. Give it, if everything goes fine with Iran in the next 60 days, and the stability, gold will go back easily to $5. By end of year. And I had this prediction last year. What was the numbers, Lance? I said with gold and silver? I don't remember now. I hit the numbers. Accurate in a month. You called out a couple of new highs that I wasn't even sure about. But you know, there was a lot of, there was a lot of resistance. And then there was also a lot of support.

[00:14:08] When you really looked at the charts and you kind of think, okay. But you know, look, here's the, here's the big news. And Keith, I want to get your points on this. Let's talk about gold and silver. They just hit the three week high after the, you know, alleged, I'm going to say alleged US Iran ceasefire agreement. That's why you say it's alleged. It's done. They're going to sign it. It's done for sure. They have agreement. They're going to sign it Friday. Um, is it Switzerland? In Geneva or something? Yeah, Geneva. Cause Trump just flew in last, um, um, overnight.

[00:14:37] He's there now for the G7. They're going to sign it Friday. The main thing with that is now Iran's really not getting much. It's all on, um, based on if they fulfill their requirements. So it's like stages. Like they're not going to get, the sanctions are not going to be lifted unless they let us in. They find all the, um, nuclear dust and stuff. It's all, it's all put in like that.

[00:15:04] Even the EU said they're not going to lift sanctions until they see progress. So it's not like, bam, deal's a deal. Everything, the sanctions are lifted. No, Iran has to, um, they have to show their faith and, and abide by that. Um, the deal they're making with the U S like you said, the IR, the IRGC. They don't want a deal. I don't even think Israel wants Netanyahu. Netanyahu doesn't want to deal. Netanyahu wants, I'd say wants war. So it keeps him cause he's running again for a reelection.

[00:15:34] Plus it keeps his, his criminal case somewhat at bay, even though I think it's starting. So he wants that. So he tried, they took a shot of Lebanon. They tried doing something, but didn't, you know, backfired. But the question is, how do you keep the IRGC at bay? That's going to be the big, we'll see how that hat plays out. Cause they're the one with the guns. Right? Yeah. You know, go ahead. I'm sorry. You're frozen Keith, by the way. Would you say he's frozen? Just so he knows.

[00:16:04] Oh, Keith, Keith's video. Did we lose him? I don't know. He's free. No, he's there, but he's just frozen. Keith. Can you hear us? Yeah, I can hear you. Can you guys hear me? Yeah, your video's frozen. It's probably because maybe you're, you're, uh, you're on wifi. Yeah. You're on wifi and your internet, you might need to up your. But we can hear you. So we've got your image. You're kind of frozen in spot. Let's talk about this. We just hit a new three week high gold and silver rallied. They went to 4,700 and 48, 56 highs. Silver was up four or 5%.

[00:16:34] I know it's dropped down a little bit since. What do you think is going to happen here? How do you feel about where the markets are right now? With this particular topic. Well, I kind of agree. I tend to agree with both of you in the middle there. I mean, at the end of the day here, here is the reality. And again, the reality from what we have been witnessing. Over since this whole entire debacle has begun. And I do tend to agree with George a little bit on this. I mean, I think it's going to come down to who really wants it to work

[00:17:03] and who really doesn't want it to work. And I think right now there's more opposition as crazy as this is going to sound that they don't want it to work. And if the continuation of going in and attacking Lebanon and the continuation of just not sitting on the sidelines and letting everything just kind of cool down is going to continue to drive this to the point where the scary part is, is it's not today or tomorrow.

[00:17:32] It's six and eight months from now, because if this situation in the straight does not get rectified and we don't get the energy sources we need globally, I'm speaking. I mean, we could be looking at major, major turmoil. Now, the flip side of that coin is this. When it comes to precious metals and it comes to gold and silver, you know, listen, you could you could have some really, really good entry points coming up.

[00:17:58] Right. And I think they're here right now, even though we're hitting a little bit of highs, which are going to have entry points where you can come in and be able to grab some, put it to the side. Right. Because when this does get cleared up, because at some point it's going to have to get cleared up. Right. The Trump administration can correct me if I'm wrong, gentlemen, the Trump administration cannot afford to have this continuing going on, especially with midterms coming up.

[00:18:22] And we're not even we're less than six months away because the reality is, if midterms come up and these guys get, you know, destroyed in midterms, what does that look like and what does that set up for down the road? So there's going to have to be an absolute resolution of some sort, at least minimum by end of summer. I would think that they're locked and loaded. And yeah, they did sign yesterday.

[00:18:44] And yeah. And once they did, you know, it's amazing once they sign that, if you look at the markets and if you look at precious metals, I mean, they came up three, four or five, five points literally overnight. So if you're if you're sitting on the sidelines and you're saying, hey, man, how am I going to protect my portfolio? What am I going to do during these turbulent times all the way across the board?

[00:19:04] I mean, I think you have to be conservative. I think you have to really like George said, you really have to pay attention to RGC, have to pay attention to these mediators out there that I don't know that they really want peace the way that I think they're trying to make peace look like how they want it. I think they're trying to build this big picture and behind the scenes, there's a lot of disgruntlement going on. So yeah, man, we're in we're in a sticky situation right now from a precious metal standpoint.

[00:19:32] I think you couldn't ask for a better time to potentially jump on because eventually when this does lean out and it gets rectified, I mean, the energy alone that's going to be supplied and bring everyone back up to speed will be enough probably. And again, no crystal ball. I mean, you could see 15, 20 percent spikes, hence why Goldman Sachs, hence why all the major banks, hence why Bank of America right now is coming out and claiming quarter four for precious metals.

[00:20:00] I mean, they have gold pegged at sixty three hundred dollars an ounce. Yeah. So you see if you can fix your can reset your camera. I don't know if it's that or zoom, but what you said was absolutely on the money. But when I when I ran with midterms coming up, it's it's about like if you don't get the gas prices back down.

[00:20:19] Yeah, it's it would hurt him in the midterms. But this this year, the midterms, it's going to be tricky because you have a lot of, you know, with the scoreless rolling on. And. The race based districts taken out and everybody's adjusting for it, you know, it probably puts off that bounce. We're going to see what's going to happen with the Senate, but same thing what we do. We're every year, every two years with voting is how do we fix our elections?

[00:20:49] Are we and that's a fight not who knows what's going to get done. But. Gas oil always play plays a big role in elections. I mean, I'm food prices. I'm not feeling food prices. I know the food prices are still your back, right? There we go. Well, you know, food prices are still like where they shouldn't be. It still costs a lot of money to go to a damn supermarket when it shouldn't. Well, let me interject. But when you're a billionaire, you don't know what that doesn't affect you.

[00:21:19] What? But interestingly enough, George, in my market, I did see some drops in food prices a little bit, not on the big items like beef and chicken. But I did see pork come down some because my mom likes bacon. And so I buy it for you know, she's 93. I don't try to stop her from having what she wants. And I did see that eggs were way down, but a lot of other things aren't. So it's like a couple of pockets of things are down, but not everything. And of course, the pumps are down a little bit. I don't know how long that'll hold. The ceasefire is over today.

[00:21:47] And I think I think what Keith said, I think the midterms are lost. And I think we have to plan on that because unless they do a major amount of deep state rests, the conservative world, at least what I see in the chat rooms are all very unhappy with the progress to Kash Patel. And in this case, Todd Blanche, although I'm not blaming him, I think it was more Pam Bondi and Donald Trump. When it comes to actually securing our elections, proving the theft and fraud, bringing the culpable parties to justice,

[00:22:16] there really hasn't been any accountability consequences or even real true transparency when it comes to the crimes that have been committed against the American people in our election system. And currently they've got a problem because the people on the conservative side, MAGA, you know, the people that really want the country to be great. They're very unhappy. So let's let let me switch back here. Let's talk about this. So the ceasefire is over today. And of course, there is a deal on the table. Will they sign it? I guess we'll just wait and see.

[00:22:45] I don't know what that deal looks like. We haven't heard the details of the deal, really. We've heard some general statements about it. But what do you think, you know, gold fell a little bit because the ceasefire is coming over. So the volatility that, you know, normally you don't see quite as much volatility in gold and silver. You know, what do you think? Is this an opportunity, Keith? Is this a time because there's some volatility? Should people and again, I hate to even talk about buying the bottom because, you know, that's one of the I didn't I could have waited. I could have, you know, but, you know, that that fear of missing out. Right.

[00:23:15] That decision to not do something. What do you think what do you think we're seeing here over the next, say, eight months? Is it a good is this a good entry point right now, in your opinion? Well, it's a great question. And here's the reality with precious metals. They're probably the most expensive, give or take, they've ever been. But they're probably going to be the cheapest you're ever going to be able to get in on them.

[00:23:41] And the reason I say this is, is that geopolitically aside, over the next few months, and I know you and I have talked about this off camera. Not only do we have a geopolitical piece that's going on that of the uncertainty in midterms and nonstop of just undecisiveness going on in the markets, period.

[00:24:03] I think where a lot of people maybe are not brought up to speed, and I know this is kind of you and George's area of expertise, is, you know, what's the future hold over the next year with these AI data center build outs? What's the future hold with everything that's coming online with the tokenization of stable coins, with, you know, an abundance of EV, an abundance of cell phones?

[00:24:28] You know, what's really funny, I was reading yesterday, Apple and this year coming up is coming out with like 12 new upgraded products. All of those products at some point or another contain silver components might be on a small scale, but they contain silver components. So what's happening is, is that you're seeing an industrial side that we've never seen before, that's just continuing to get larger and larger and larger.

[00:24:54] And the reality is, if the geopolitics of it really jam it up, we have no idea. We could see highs, we could see precious metals go to a point that we don't know where it could be going right now. I think geopolitically, I do agree with you. I think we're kind of in a mess. There's just too much undecisiveness going on. You can't have a White House administration every other day that can't make a decision. Every other day coming on national TV, we have a deal, we don't have a deal.

[00:25:24] We're going to do this, we're going to do that, because the geopolitics of it just look horrible. And now let's look at the aftermath of what's going on, like you said. I mean, midterms come up and they start taking a pounding. Listen, precious metals, the whole sectors could really ramp. And I think your entry points between now and over the next couple of months could be really, really strong. I mean, gold and silver has shown that it can outlast geopolitics, and it will.

[00:25:50] And once this ceasefire is completed, which it'll have to be at some point, and energy reserves start coming back up, I mean, the sky could be the limit at the end of the day, to be quite honest with you. Well, we're talking about Iran. You know, of course, that's the hot topic. But there's lots of other topics, right? The fact that BRICS nations are still accumulating and increasing their reserves. So you have to look at that, because I believe that's part of the reason that everything got driven up.

[00:26:17] The only part, but an important part, because even though BRICS isn't quite as hot to trot in the news as it was during the Biden administration, because we had a weak presidency and an installed president, what, you know, clearly the guy was trying to run the presidency from the basement of his Delaware house, wasn't doing a very good job. Of course, he had dementia and Alzheimer's. Nobody wanted to admit that. But those BRICS really started to push, because, of course, many countries would like to see the U.S. dollar detached from the, you know, as the petrodollar. People don't want to see it there.

[00:26:47] So let's go beyond Iran. Let's talk about the impact of all these other events. Of course, you've still got the Ukraine-Russia war going on. I think Ukraine made a major mistake on this last strike. I don't know when Putin's going to literally, I mean, everybody has to remember Putin's background as a KGB guy. He's going to get to a point, and I think he's getting close to it. I think because I see his behavior on camera is changing. My personal opinion, he's about ready to lose his shit.

[00:27:15] And if he does, I don't think that Ukraine is prepared for it. Hopefully, the U.S. doesn't continue to just funnel money in there because of the amount of theft in that war. But that's not the only place. You've got this tremendous amount of instability in northern Africa, right? You've got, you know, saber rattling from China to Taiwan. So I guess my question would be, you know, with those pieces and even BRICS still accumulating, because the BRICS nations are still buying, it would seem to me that there haven't been any major fines.

[00:27:43] I look online all the time, like big major gold reserve found. I mean, they talk about meteorites in space and the moon and all this other garbage. But let's face it, none of that is really a possibility at this point. There's no mining of meteorites. There's no this or that. But people are, that's a pipe dream right now. Maybe Elon Musk with his, with SpaceX and maybe some of these other platforms. What do you think, though? Don't you feel like there's a shortage coming up if there's this accumulation? Because when BRICS nations accumulate gold, and I'll even throw something in here. George, is there any gold in Fort Knox?

[00:28:12] No, but, you know, you're bringing up BRICS. And I was just thinking, like, you don't hear much of BRICS. Well, because Putin pulled back on BRICS. And so did a couple of the other nations because they were getting threatened by the U.S. about, you know, Donald Trump said, if you put our dollar under attack with BRICS, you're going to place financial sanctions. So a lot of them got nervous because he did the tariff thing. Of course, all the bank, all the stupid judiciary and all those people that push back, which who knows why anybody would push back on the U.S. taking in more money. I don't get that part. But OK, whatever.

[00:28:41] What do you think? Let's let's be, you know, let's be a Kreskin. Let's be predictive here, Keith. Am I right? Isn't there a major shortage? Because there haven't been any huge gold or silver fines. I haven't heard of anything colossal they've located. There's been some small fines around the globe, but nothing where they go, oh, my God, we just found, you know, eight trillion ounces. There hasn't been anything like, oh, wow. Or am I missing something? No, you're correct. There really hasn't.

[00:29:06] And then on top of it, the big bugaboo that and it's amazing that nobody and this is really, really wild that nobody in mainstream media is picking this up and really talking about it.

[00:29:48] You know, they've come out and said, hey, listen, you know, we are not going to allow this to come out of the country. We are not going to allow this to go anywhere but stay in our country. And this effect, again, going long term down the road over just the silver pieces alone could be huge. I mean, right now they're buying silver 10%, 15%, 20% above COMEX, above LBMA.

[00:30:16] I mean, in China, just to get the product because of their AI and their data centers. So you take that piece. Then you take your piece, the whole brick thing that has been put to the side right now. But the reality is this, guys. The reality is this. They've been looking to break the dollar forever. They've been looking to get this dollar off this petro and they've been looking to get the United States where they're just not controlling everything anymore.

[00:30:42] And if they get that on and maybe it does take longer than anticipated and maybe they don't. But what kind of aftermath that happens with us when that's completed or not completed? And we're seeing it right now. So I want to bring something up. There was a big gold find, a new one found, I think in March, I believe it was, or February. Unfortunately, it was in China.

[00:31:05] It was in China's Hunayn province where they said Jalas discovered a supergiant high-grade gold deposit in the Wangu gold field, which is value, they're saying, at today's price is like $80-something billion right now. But of course, that won't be coming out of China. They'll be keeping all of it right there. The government has probably already secured all of it and told that company or whoever it is that you found it, but we're taking it. That's how it operates. So that doesn't even come into the market.

[00:31:35] But I didn't know that, George. I probably don't pay much attention to China when I'm looking at the possibilities. Like I'm looking, they say Russia and Australia have the largest unmined gold reserves in the world. Well, they do say that about Australia, but it's funny we don't hear the finds getting being found. Now, I always think with technology, that'll change. But if you have a bunch of nations that are buying gold and it doesn't ever come back onto the market, and I said to Keith, we were having a discussion on Sunday, and I brought something up and said,

[00:32:03] you know, if George is right and I'm right and there is no gold in Fort Knox, what would be the impact of the U.S. government having to sneakily, and I say sneakily because they wouldn't want to meltdown on the dollar, right? But what would the impact be if that gold, because let's face it, Elon Musk came out and said they were going to do an audit, and Donald Trump said they were going to do an audit. And then all of a sudden it was like, audit? Oh, no. Audit? What audit? There's no stinking audit.

[00:32:32] You know, that just stopped dead, and everybody got suspicious because of it. Why wouldn't you do a camera run through? I'm not saying they couldn't have a bunch of gold bars that were sprayed to look like gold. You know, is that possible? I don't put anything past it. We always talked about, Keith, I don't understand why our gold has been valued at $40-some in Fort Knox. Because there's no gold there. It doesn't matter. $46. They've never revalued it at current prices. So I don't even get that part. But what do you, Keith, let's just say hypothetical.

[00:33:01] I know unless you have an inside story or inside information, I don't know. Hypothetically, what if the U.S. had to, on the underbelly, right, because they couldn't go public. They'd have to be making acquisitions through brokers and intermediaries, probably having to pay over spot. What would that do if the U.S. had to replace the gold in Fort Knox? Oh, gosh. You could have, I mean, it would be felt immediately. Because like you said, I mean, the basis of it is that it's filled to the rim.

[00:33:31] And, you know, we're sitting on, they haven't released, no one really knows how many tons. And I don't disagree with you or George on that. I don't know that we're sitting on anything at all. And if we are, I don't know why they haven't come clean with the general public. And if they're not, that tribulation through the markets, through the precious metals arena, I mean, you could probably, if they actually came out and said, hey, we are limited or we have very little, we don't really have anything, our holdings are nil,

[00:34:00] because we had to sell everything off because of cash reserves, because our country is now coming up on $37 trillion in debt load and we can't pay anything. You know, to be quite honest with you, that answer could be infinitive. I mean, we could turn around and, first off, the fiat currency would just get absolutely abomish to the point where your dollars, I mean, let's play it out, right? So when we come off the board. And I want to give you a small correction. I wanted to double check because I wasn't sure.

[00:34:29] Our debt is at 39.2%. Yeah, I mean, so we're to the point now of no return. Now we have no precious metals that are back in our country to back our fiat currency. Since we came off the gold exchange in August 15th of 71, when Nixon came out in his infinitive wisdom and blew it out, inflation over since 71 through 2026 is 700%.

[00:34:57] So now you're asking me, hey, Keith. That's a small number. 700%. And now you're telling me not only that, we have no gold and silver left in our anywhere. We're done. It could be, it would be monumental. I mean, I don't think they would go public though. I think they would try that. They would never tell the public because of course, then the petrodollar comes into question. The US dollar. What, that we have no gold? Yeah, I don't think they'd ever be public. If that would happen, our dollar would collapse. We'd go into depression and a lot of other countries would follow suit.

[00:35:26] But if all of a sudden somebody had to go out in the market through intermarriage and brokers and they had to start, you know, trying to replace these tons of bullion, hypothetically, and I know, listen, man, I know you're not sure. I mean, we could just take everybody's gold out of the New York bank there where they're holding everybody else's gold. We could just take that. Yeah. What are you going to do? Well, and I, you know, and with how many countries owe us money, I sometimes think that's, you know, I like to be the collection agent for all the countries that owe us money and never paid us back.

[00:35:55] But Keek, hypothetical. I know you're not, you don't have a silver, you know, crystal ball, but hypothetically, if they had to go out and acquire these tons of gold to replace what's in Fort Knox and they weren't public, theoretically, what do you think would happen to gold price-wise? $15,000 an ounce. Which is a huge upside. I mean, that's huge. And that's, you know, that's exactly what I want the audience to think about.

[00:36:22] And that's why, you know, we have, I like to have experts like you and Jonathan on the show because that's a gigantic number. Now, I don't know if they'd also try to, you know, use some silver to do that, but let's say theoretically they decided they were going to do more. They can't use the silver to do that. They can't use silver at all. They're not allowed to? Well, it's not that. I mean, at the end of the day, again, like I said earlier, here's the reality. And again, in my professional opinion, with the silver, the industrial side now has become,

[00:36:50] the evolution of industrial usage for silver, silver, I think over the next five years, let alone the next 10 or 15 years, is going to be so monumental that I don't know that they'll ever run out of it per se. But I think it's going to put that particular metal in a position to where it could be really, really tough to get a hold of. Now, will it take silver to $1,000 an ounce? I don't know that it will or will not.

[00:37:19] But I think the silver percentages are going to be really, really limited because of just the data centers. And I know you and I spoke about that offline a little bit. I mean, over the next two to five years on the AI data centers alone, just the data centers that they're building worldwide, you tell me what silver consumption on that end, what does that look like? And if China strangles everyone with the import-export of the ingredients, especially with the sulfuric acid,

[00:37:49] because they're looking to increase AI centers by 50-fold in that country alone, I mean, it could really turn into a big to-do. It really could. And that's powerful, what you just said, because they always say, you know, you always want to be the guy selling the shovels when it comes to the gold rush, right? You always want to be the guy. And the fact that China is preemptively thinking, well, we're going to control the sulfuric acid, we're going to control the cyanide or whatever else they've got planned.

[00:38:18] It doesn't matter what it is. That, of course, all those commodities are going to escalate. All right, we've got to take a short break here on The Big Ming Show. When we come back, we're going to talk about more what the industrial uses are, what that looks like for silver, and the fact that it doesn't matter whether it's green energy, EV technology, data centers, or the military industrial complex. There's a deficit, and it's ugly. Stay tuned. The Big Ming Show. I'll be right back with George Ballantyne, Keith Height, Lance Migliaccio. Stay here. We want to help you. And that's what the show is all about.

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[00:44:02] and links in the more section under the video. We got you covered. All you gotta do is just go there. But after the show, because Keith has got some more things we're gonna talk about. Specifically, all right, we're bringing up all precious metals, but we're, you know, we're looking at what's silver, how it's facing another deficit this year. You know, you have six consecutive years of shortages. I mean, what are we looking at here?

[00:44:31] It's gonna get worse because of the industrial usage again. Yeah, between the EV cars. Okay, let's talk about that for just a moment, right? And look at now you have, you know, four years ago, five years ago, you had Tesla. It was Tesla. It was Tesla. It was Tesla. It was Elon Musk. Now you have every major car manufacturer on planet Earth making electric cars. Well, those components

[00:44:58] take certain portions of that metal. So now how large is that scale? Now let's talk about the solar industry with solar on roofs and neighborhoods. I know with the tax credits, you know, that was a big to do because everybody was getting the tax credits written off. It's still kind of going, even though they limited those tax credits, they brought them back. And we still have probably 50 to 60 million homes just in the United States of America

[00:45:26] that could be looking at additional solar components, right? So between solar and EV alone over the next probably five years, forget about all the additional, I know we've been talking about with the data centers and everything else that's going on. What type of trickle effect do you think that that's going to happen? I mean, at some point, the deficits are going to run so tight that coming out of the ground is just going to become tougher and tougher,

[00:45:53] which then is going to lead to higher and higher prices all the way across the board. And I think that's what we're looking at. And then we haven't even spoken about the cell phone scenario. So you really have three major deals going on between cell phones, cars, and solar. And we haven't even touched the AI data. You know, when you bring up solar, anybody I know that got solar panels are not happy because they're all, they're like,

[00:46:24] they're sold on this. I don't know if they're not reading their contracts or whatever these people are doing, but they're all still paying money for their bills when they really shouldn't be. And you look, there's a lot of lawsuits against these solar companies of how to get out of your contracts. Because of the components, what's happened in solar is, is that that industry grew so fast that you had all these renegade outfits out there that were out there.

[00:46:52] You know, you had Dickie the Dunst that could do solar panels for your house. And now he comes up, he underbids everybody that comes to your house. He puts the solar panels up, right? And now six months later, he's out of business. Well, in most of those contracts, you have to go back to the original manufacturer and those solar panels, the bulk of them are not manufactured in the United States of America. They're overseas. Whether they be Europe, whether they be China.

[00:47:19] So now that manufacturer has to supply an answer for you. And that's what's caused a huge, huge mess for a lot of people with the roofs. You are correct on that, George, for sure. There's two people I know that are happy is they actually got Tesla solar panels. And I mean, you don't even know they're solar panels. They look like roof shingles, by the way. But they say they're happy. They're making money. They get paid from selling extra electricity. So I don't know if it's people where they're not reading contracts

[00:47:49] or like you said, these fly-by-nighters are just taking advantage. But some of the companies like Sunrun, I know is one of them. A lot of people have problems with. A lot of lawsuits against them and others. But we'll see how that one progresses. I don't know. You know, and you just have a large, between that, the cell phones and the EV cars. And have we even... Here's the thing with the electric vehicles, right? Like where, at the end of the day, where is that going?

[00:48:17] Is gas cars in the next five years? Because depending on what state you live in and depending on where you're at in the United States of America, I mean, as you guys probably both know, they have laws in the books where a lot of these states, by 2033, 2034, 2035, they don't even want any gas vehicles on the road. I know California's like that. Who else? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, you got a couple of Western states that have been looking at stuff like that. So you got scenarios that are playing out right now, gentlemen,

[00:48:45] that could really turn the precious metals and turn the silver industry into numbers that I don't even know if they're going to be able to fulfill it. I don't know. I don't have... I wish I could sit here and tell both of you I have a direct answer on that. I can tell you this. It's getting thinner and thinner. And the deficits year by year are getting less and less as far as what's coming out of the ground, what they're able to mine, how they're getting it to market, and what's that indirectly going to do. And we haven't even touched

[00:49:14] on the million square foot AI data centers that, you know, I don't know how many right now in the United States of America are currently under construction or in the process of getting plans. Yeah. And they're trying to take people's property eminent domain for data centers, which is crazy. I mean, it's a fight. Data centers, the Samsung technology on EVs requires one kilo of silver per vehicle. Yeah. But is that even out in the market, those batteries? You know,

[00:49:42] I went and looked it up before the show. It looks like they've got multiple contracts with people. It does not appear that the technology has gone downstream, George. They've got a bunch of... Because Elon Musk just came out with a different way of doing the batteries now. He did. He did. And I always wonder about hydrogen fuel cell. But the need is, the data centers, you've got Snap, who wants to install data nodes all over the country in residential homes. They're dealing with Pulte and other home builders right now. They want new homes. They want to put them in. And they're talking about how you can get paid to have one of these data nodes, right?

[00:50:12] Those require silver. You've got the major data centers all over the globe. They all require silver. So let's do something for the audience right now. Let's talk about... Keith, I'd like to just, you know, give them your picture. Let's say somebody's sitting on a major amount of wealth in an IRA, in a regular fund, in their own bank, in Wall Street. What do you think the correct number based on... And again, I know you're doing a little crystal balling and I know nothing's perfect. What do you think people should be doing now

[00:50:42] to protect their assets? Like, what kind of a ratio? If they have a dollar in the stock market, should 10% of that be in precious metals, 30%, 20%? And what does that look like moving forward? Should they be accumulating at these prices? Should they buy some now and another in a month? You know, for the entry point? Because everybody wants the best entry point. You know, everybody wants to buy the stock when it's pennies, right? And they hope that it turns into Nvidia. Most importantly, most importantly, Keith, let them know where they got to go to buy this. Well, and what that process looks like because people sometimes

[00:51:11] they're confused. We get the messages. They don't really understand. How do I do it with my IRA? Are there any penalties? How do I switch? How do I hold? So kind of, let's just give them the whole package of whether it's IRA, whether it's regular investment, maybe they just want to buy straight from you, how that kind of works and what you think the correct ratios would be. I know you can't predict the future, but why should they do it at these amounts? Why? Because I know last time Jonathan Rose was on the show, I don't know if this still holds. He was saying that Genesis was promoting

[00:51:41] 70% silver against 30% gold. Now that was quite some time ago. I'd like to give the audience an update of what it should look like in their portfolio because again, we talk about crypto. You know, BlockTrust IRA is a great product over there with Animus Technologies. Jonathan Rose and the team again. But I think it's an amazing product. You know, Maximilian's a really smart guy. So what's the ratio for precious metals? And is there any other precious metal besides gold and silver that maybe needs to trickle in there also? All really, really good points. I think

[00:52:10] the bulk of our clients or a lot of the clients that I personally deal with behind the scenes when it comes to their actual monetary money. What I have seen that works for a lot of people is anywhere from about 15% to 30% of their overall portfolio they're looking at total protection. But you have to remember when you get into the precious metals arena from a protection standpoint and you're rolling over an IRA

[00:52:40] or 401k, you are correct. There are stipulations. There are laws. Example, if you're over 59.5, you're tax-free, you're penalty-free, you don't have to worry about that. If you're under 59.5, you can have a tax situation. In that case, most of our clients that are under the 59.5 age range, a lot of them we have found out have just done what we refer to as straight cash deals. And again, portfolio-wise,

[00:53:09] it can be anywhere from 10% to 20% to 30%. We have some clients that go all in. I think that comes down to a couple of things here. Personal choices on how you view your money and what you're looking to do. And most importantly, and this is really overlooked by a lot of people, they don't realize that when you are in the banking system and when your money is out there, unless you're in a bank and you have it in a checking account, right,

[00:53:39] or a personal savings account, your FDIC is $250,000 in protection. Anything over that, there's nothing. If you're out of that and you're in a 401k or you're in an IRA, you have no protection at all. So here at Genesis Gold Group, what we really look to do is just to separate our clients from that banking situation to where they're in total control with a self-directed IRA. They're the custodian of their money, meaning that

[00:54:08] they actually own and operate their money because when you go into the financial institutions, you are not the custodian of your money. That means they are the custodian of their money and they have total control of it. Now, from a portfolio standpoint, he said to me, hey, Keith, I want to give you $50,000 and what's the right percentage on that? I do agree with Jonathan. We're still probably about the 70-30 ratios and the reason is is because of what we've been talking about

[00:54:38] for the last hour when it comes to silver. At some point, that product itself is going to run so thin and where's it going to take the price points? I mean, what are they going to look like in the next five years? No idea. And then that's it. No idea. I don't think we know, but I think that if we look at the markets, it's kind of like what they're saying about copper, you know, all these things we just described. You know, there's no doubt that silver is going to, it has to go up because supply and demand.

[00:55:07] When there's a high demand and there isn't enough supply, everything goes up. I don't care if it's corn, wheat, any of the commodities, you know, lead, it doesn't matter what it is. And I think that's the genius of what, and that's not even factoring the genius of the Chinese that they want to control the shovels. If you control the shovels, you control the market. The fact that they build so much infrastructure to control it, that's another piece of this. So let's say somebody wants to invest $100,000, right? And they've got, let's say they've got a couple of million dollars in liquid asset net worth. They want to do $100,000. Can you kind of explain the process?

[00:55:37] Let's say this is an IRA investment. How does that work? What do they do? And then I know you're doing some stuff that I'm shocked. I've never given out Jonathan Rose's private number. And you're literally going to share your private number for anybody if they really have some hard questions. Sure. Which that's unheard of. We don't usually get, you know, people that are chief operations officers saying, hey, you want to put your, I didn't know that. You want me to put your number in the chat for the people? Well, listen, that's what I told Lance before the show started. That's why I want to confirm.

[00:56:08] Yeah, and that's fine. And I want to make this clear about Genesis Gold Group. We're client first, right? I mean, at the end of the day, we can't help you and get you the protection you need until the first step, which is the real conversation. The conversation, the uncomfortable conversation, meaning that what are you looking to do? What are you looking to protect? And most importantly, this is the part that so many folks overlook. It's the children.

[00:56:37] It's the grandchildren. Are you leaving them anything? Do you want to do anything for them? Is your, like Lance just referred to, if you have a $2 million portfolio or a $1 million portfolio, does it kill you to take $100,000 or $150,000 and say, hey, look, I want to separate myself. I want to be in charge of my own currency. I want to be my custodian. And at the end of the day, we're consultants. We're here to consult you. We're here to help you, whether it be myself.

[00:57:07] You know, listen, I have gentlemen in my office. I have gentlemen in our organization that are so well-rounded. We have a gentleman here in our Las Vegas office, TJ. He has been 26 years of financial sector experience. He has sold every instrument known to mankind, can answer any question you have. That's the power we have at Genesis. It's a skull group. But I want to make this clear, gentlemen, it starts with the phone call. It starts with, hey, Keith, I'm looking for some added protection. I need some help,

[00:57:37] but I want some honest answers. Because at the end of the day, if it's not a good fit, it's okay. No one's mad. We're not charging you nothing. It's a free consultation. You have nothing to lose. So with that being said, here's what I told Lance. If you have some clients out there and there are some people out there that are really serious and they're like, look, man, I need some help. Can you talk to me and help me? Just call me direct. And that number is simple.

[00:58:03] It's 424-317-9871. And I'll say it one more time. It's 424-317-9871. And that number actually comes right to my office desk. And I'll be more than happy to answer questions and really deep dive on it and or get you to the people that can answer your questions and help you. Because at the end of the day, here's the reality of the world we're living in. You have to start looking

[00:58:32] at alternate protection plans. And gold and silver is the best hedge on planet Earth. It has been for 6,000 years. And I got news for you. It's not going anywhere. And for the audience, you got, I mean, the fact that you don't have to go through an intermediary. And let me emphasize this just for, and some people have already dealt with Genesis Gold Group. We have lots of people that have already been dealing. What I love about them, and this is not an infomercial, I truly believe this,

[00:59:01] they're just not high pressure. No. They really do want to educate you and they want to put you in a position where you know what you're doing and you understand it. And like you just said, him talking about the staff and in their office. Jonathan Rose is very particular about the people he hires. He's very particular about their level of experience. He's very particular. He is an OCD anal retentive guy, in my opinion. He's very, you know, this little detail and this little, you know, when he's involved, and of course he's super busy, but when you get his attention, he's extremely detail-oriented

[00:59:31] and that's what I love about it. And you can look online. Their reputation says it, that they didn't get high pressured. They send you the information. They follow up, but it's not like, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? It's not like a lot of the other gold companies where they're like, and that's why we really teamed up with them. We had a lot of different companies come to us that wanted to do gold and silver with us and we picked Genesis out of all of them. We thought, okay, well, these guys are a good fit. Everything they're saying to me makes me feel comfortable. And I don't like to make referrals. I don't like to make referrals with people I don't really trust.

[01:00:00] And I actually trust Jonathan Rose and the team. I've just gotten to know Keith, but I can tell you the dialogue we had, we clicked almost instantly, which, you know, you know with us, we're a little edgy here on this show. We kind of bring it. All right. Hold on. I got a question for him from the chat. Oh yeah, please. Craig Mutley. He asks, what about someone with a $50,000 IRA who wants to convert it to silver? Should they do so? Yes. That's all they got. What? If he's absolutely have him give us a call, we'll take a week and certainly walk him through all the steps. We do it every single day.

[01:00:32] Okay. Now can we, I know you're doing some stuff and Jonathan Rose is very particular about the offers he makes because he wants to be able to deliver. I know you had talked about some things you want to offer the audience. And by the way, for the audience, we're going to try to have Keith on more often. We're going to try to schedule it however we can so he's here so that you guys, you can get in the chat. Any questions in the chat, fire them off right now. If you want to know about anything, ask, man. Don't be shy about it because that's why he's here today. It's not about selling product.

[01:01:01] It's because we always want to educate you guys so we can protect our audience. You know, I know that sounds like a bunch of crock of crap, but it's true. I really, the reason George and I do what we do, a lot of times George and I talk to each other about how do we create value? You guys have seen us skip a show because we think the news cycle is just garbage. I'm not going to sit here and talk about some worthless news or some worthless information or a worthless guest just to get clicks. This is not, this is actually about providing quality because we want our audience. We want the Big McMafia and our mods and everybody else.

[01:01:31] We want to improve your life. It's not like every other show that we're just trying to crush a bunch of products down your throat. So let's talk about what you came up with some stuff with Jonathan. This is stuff we haven't done before. These are offers that you guys have never offered to our clientele. So you're going to take a chop on some things that you're going to do because you really want to provide some value. And I, first of all, thank you for doing that for the audience. I appreciate it, Keith. No, thank you for having us on. We appreciate it. The fact that you guys are coming to the plate, you know, nobody ever wants to put their money where their mouth is. Nobody wants to take a chop.

[01:02:00] You know what I mean? And the point is that's, you're passing through value. So talk about what you can provide. What extra stuff you're going to give the audience just to help them? Well, you know, we're going to, if we get some clients to come on and they decide to move forward for the protection, you know, we're going to waive first year fees. That's upwards of about, you know, four or $500 in fees that, you know, custodial fees, Delaware depository fees. We're going to waive all of that. You know, we're going to, free consultations. You can come in, but we'll spend all the time we need to with you.

[01:02:30] There's no charge on that. And that's kind of really what we're looking to do. You know, if we can get you in and we can talk to you and we can kind of break it down because at the end of the day, I always tell everyone, you know, it's funny you're asking me this, Lance. You know, I was at a dinner last week and I ran into some acquaintances that I hadn't seen in quite some time. It's actually was a number of years and they were like, you know, Keith, you know, what are you up to? What's been going on? How's everything going? And you know, who you, you know, who you, you know, with now. But I said, you know, I'm in the protection business and one of the guests

[01:02:59] kind of looked at me awkwardly like in the protection business, like, are you bodyguarding someone? Like, what are you doing? What are you protecting? And it was kind of funny. You know, so one time I was actually, you know, really, really big guy and I said, no, I'm not in the bodyguard business. I'm in the protection business to protect people for themselves and their families. And that's a Genesis Gold Group and you did hit on something earlier and I do want to hit this really quick. We are not in any way, shape or form your typical gold company.

[01:03:28] We're a very small organization by design. I want to make that very clear by design because we have a client first mentality. We help our clients. We walk them through it. We get them set up and most importantly, when that is done, we service that client all the way through and there's so many things that we do that other organizations, I'm not here to talk bad about anyone that just other organizations do not do and refuse to do. We leave,

[01:03:58] I hate to say it, we do leave, we leave a lot of money on the table because we're not that organization that is about greed and about taking all your money and that we're just not. We're here to help you and get you where you need to go and like I said earlier, listen, if the worst thing at the end of the day is you take 30 minutes to make a phone call to decide whether this can help you and this can protect you and your kin and your children and your grandchildren,

[01:04:28] what's wrong with that? It doesn't cost you a dime. So with that being said, yeah, man, we're going to waive fees, we're going to do a lot of great stuff, we're going to bring folks on and we're going to be able to educate you and show you the Genesis Gold Group way and how we do things and most importantly, I want to make this clear, we have the information for you so when you ask the hard questions or the uncomfortable questions, we will answer it and you know what's funny? My father taught me years ago, Keith,

[01:04:58] sometimes in life, your best friend can be a stranger and it works in this industry because we're not judging you. We don't prejudge any client. If you call me and say, Keith, I got $20,000 and the next guy calls me and I got $250 million, the guy that has $250 million, believe it or not, is not going to be treated any differently or spoken to any differently than a gentleman that has $20,000. We just don't operate

[01:05:28] in that capacity. We have a lot of integrity and that's what separates us from the back. All right, Keith, I got another question from the chat from Renee. What's up, Renee? She asks, what if I don't have like big amounts like to invest but she has maybe like $5,000 to diversify with? And there's nothing wrong with that. It's a starting point, right? And again, I'll go back to give us a call and she's coming from the Big MIG show. She has a lot of interest

[01:05:56] and we'll work with the smaller clients if we need to because everyone deserves a starting point. So yes, we can work with her and speak with her to see where she's at. That's not a problem. There you go, Renee. You know, I want to remind the audience for some people they didn't catch the Jonathan Rose Global Finance Forum. That show blew up. It was the number one finance show on Rumble during that time period. We did it every Friday. People loved it. We got all kinds of email about it and everything else. You guys have this crazy because a lot of gold and silver because they go for the jugular, right?

[01:06:26] They try to rip people's wallet out from underneath them. Your guy's retention rate, you have people that have been with Genesis Gold for decades. It seems like once you get a client into the Genesis Gold group family, they don't leave. And see, that means for me, there's people I've been doing business with for 35 years, you know, 40 years. I just, I got them. I like them. I trust them. You know, maybe they weren't the cheapest. I don't know what it is, but it's the way they treat me. I can call them up. They're like family and I can get something done immediately. And when Jonathan was talking about the retention rate,

[01:06:56] which I think speaks, you know, an incredible amount because, you know, when you go online, everybody's under onslaught. There's always somebody spinning or selling something, right? You go out on social media. Your guy's retention rate has been ridiculous. I mean, when Jonathan was popping off numbers, I was shocked that most clients never leave. We have, we have a lot. I mean, we have, I don't know. Listen, the exact number, I can tell you it's in the thousands. I mean, because at the end of the day, we just do business the old fashioned way,

[01:07:25] which is the right way. I mean, there's a right way to do things and there's a wrong way to do things. And we are not, and I want to make this really crystal clear because I am sure that you have clients on your show or subscribers on your show that have dealt with other organizations regardless of whether it's gold or silver or anything else they're buying. And if it's not a good fit and it doesn't make sense, that's okay. We part as friends and down the road we can revisit. We're not a group of people that hound our people.

[01:07:55] We just don't do that. And I'll tell you why. We don't have to. We just don't have to. We're in the business to protect you and your family to the best of your ability and to open up your eyes that there is a better way to get out of the system, to get out underneath the banking cartel and control your actual money. Because at the end of the day, gentlemen, and I know both of you are very well versed in this. Right now, currently, we live in a world where you're really

[01:08:24] not in control like you think you are. Especially when it comes to your money and financial instruments, you're not in control of it. When you come over to this side, we put you in control. You're the person that's worked all your life for your finances. You're the person that has got up every day and went to your career or went to your job for 30 or 40 or 50 years. I mean, don't you deserve to control your own money? And that's what it's all about. Yeah. Yeah. We talk about that quite a bit. You know, and that's why we always,

[01:08:53] our shows are different because we'll have a Democrat on the show. We'll have a nonpartisan. We'll have Republicans. And it isn't just that. We'll get people from all walks of life. It doesn't matter whether it's UFC, special forces, doctors, authors, documentarians, celebrities, you know, actors and actresses. We try to do everything because all walks of life, I always feel like there's always, you know, these great shreds of information that come from people. And I'll be honest with you. I didn't know you up until a couple of days ago. I'd heard Jonathan had a new guy

[01:09:23] and you and I were trying to connect. And of course, Jonathan's been so busy. I've left him, you know, half a dozen messages and he'll give me that. You just want to go with the gold prepper bar, Lance. Yeah, yeah. Now, Jonathan did promise George a gold prepper bar based on some things and I think George over-delivered on it. Every time he tries to give me a challenge, I've beat him. Now, I want to say that we haven't come to Vegas to collect yet. George, I'm going to personally send you one. and myself knocking on the door of Genesis. Wait, wait, Lance. Hold on. What was that, Keith?

[01:09:53] George, I am personally going to send you your own gold prepper bar. I promise you we're going to get it out. Lance, hold up. No, no, no, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, hang on, hang on, because Lance was talking about gold. I'm going to, let me reconfigure that. I'm going to personally send you your old silver prepper bar. We're going to get it out to you. Yo, bro. The Vegas switch. You see right here? Yo, hold on, Lance. Look at the screen. You see what I got

[01:10:22] in my hand? Yeah. That's my silver prepper bar. Hold on a minute. I got to renege and everything. That was the bait switch. You guys, hang on a minute. We got to see. you know what the best part about editing is? I could edit out all the shit he said afterwards and just keep the part where he said I'm going to personally send you a gold prepper bar. Do not mess with George. That's a verbal, that's a verbal contract. But listen, listen, first of all, Keith, you know, I got family in Vegas. Very well connected to over there. Okay. Yeah, I got to say this. I,

[01:10:51] I didn't know what to expect. Right. When I, when you, when we finally got connected, you and I, and I'm, I'm happily. Jonathan Rose is like, Oh my God. I can see why you're now the, the in charge of Genesis Gold Group. I think Jonathan Rose has made a good decision because, you know, Jonathan Rose always over delivered on the shows. I think you've done the same thing for our audience. So number one, thanks. I like the transparency. I like the authenticity. You know, we're just a couple of knock around guys. We don't like to bullshit our audience. You know,

[01:11:21] it is what it is, right? That's the big, big show. When you come here, it's authentic. And I, and I'm happy to see that, that the reins of Genesis Gold Group have been getting to a guy that I think is authentic. And so let me do this one more time for everybody in the audience. Let me give the phone numbers again. Now, remember you're going to get directly to Keith. You're not going to get bullshitted. You're not going to go through. Phone numbers on the screen, but go ahead. Right. But let me just do it again. 4, 2, 4, 3, 1, 7, 9, 8, 7, 1. You know, talk to him like you do in our chat.

[01:11:51] Just lay it out. Don't be, and, and one, well, let me emphasize this. Don't worry about how much money you have or don't have. Don't feel like, because you're starting with 5,000 or you're starting with 10,000, that doesn't mean anything. You got to start. And half the, you know, this is the difficulty that's always hard for people. They struggle with, because they feel like, well, I only have this much. It's not only have this much today. You have that much, much, but if you make good decisions, maybe tomorrow you'll have more. And the next day you'll have more. And I always say this, go to the toolbox for the right tool. Always go to the person that's the expert.

[01:12:20] If I need some technical advice, I'm a technical idiot compared to George. I understand some things, but there's, he is highly skilled. If I'm having an issue, technically, I'm going to ask George a lot of questions. He'll probably get frustrated with me. He'll probably get angry with me because that's George. But the point is, I know that he's the right guy to go for that. And I'm sure George maybe leans on me for certain pieces of information. That's what you do. You surround yourself with experts that have made a lot of money in an industry. And that's how you lift up your game. So that's why we're with Genesis Gold Group. Again, this isn't a freaking infomercial.

[01:12:50] This is just that I trust these guys. And it's, you know, it's taken us. We've been with these guys for years now. So the point is, I've learned a lot about them personally, their personal lives and the rest. I don't know Keith yet, but I look forward to maybe getting to know him more personally. I, you know, because I appreciate the way you came on here today. So for the audience, you guys know what to do. If you like the show, thumbs up, comment, share, and subscribe. Again, that number 424-317-9871. If you want to call the 800 line, you can, but I think you're crazy. Call the head honcho, the head cheese right here.

[01:13:19] Call Keith. Don't be shy. Just spin it out. It doesn't, I don't care if you've got, you know, the $10 million in your IRA. I don't care what you've got. I don't care if you have $10. He's the guy to talk to. And he'll give you the right roadmap. And if it's a good fit, it's a good fit. So Keith, thanks, man. First of all, time's the most valuable commodity. Thank you so much for joining us today. We really appreciate it. You guys out there, follow G Balantine. Follow the big, big show on X. George is going to do short form content. Share this, this, the show with all your friends and family. No, listen,

[01:13:48] I think these guys could be a good choice. I know you're thinking about, you just sold your company and you want to make some investments. You're going to be doing some gold and silver. These guys seem to be really credible. You ought to check them out. But do that. And you can also follow Genesis Gold. They've got a new social media program. They're putting in play a new social media person. They're going to dig deep in. So they'll be probably putting up lots of gold and silver information. You can just follow their feed on X. Get over there. You always see them tagged in our stuff. And then of course, you know what to do with our stuff. Always go out, help promote us.

[01:14:17] We're trying to grow the show. New subscribers. Thank you. It's only five bucks a month. Rumble Rand tips, you know, 10 bucks, five bucks, any bucks, throw them in there if you can, or you can tip us in crypto. All right, George, my man, last words for the audience. What do you got? And I guess we got Sheriff Matt coming on or something here this week. Coming on Wednesday. Yeah. Sheriff Mack, new book and stuff. Anyway, Keith, it was a pleasure having you on. Hopefully we'll bring you on or often. It all depends on that gold, purple bar, but we'll work on that. Keith,

[01:14:47] don't stay, stay backstage. Cause I got to talk to you about a few things. Anyway, it's, you know, everybody, it's just another manic Monday. I wish it was Sunday, but it's Monday. Y'all have a blessed day. I love you guys. We'll see you tomorrow. Peace.

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