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Welcome back to the Big Man Show Global Finance Forum of course

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the number one finance show on Rumble powered by Genesis Gold

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Group with your hosts joining us for the first time, Bill Armour

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from Genesis Gold along with myself, Lance Miliaccio and

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George Ballantine. From Bullion to Borders we are

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Protecting your finances with precious metals has never been

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more crucial. Joining us as we explore the

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forces shaping global markets, the power of precious metals,

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digital assets, and the dynamics influence economies across the

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globe. George Ballantine, man, how are

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you, brother? Round two of the day, What's

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going on bro? It's Friday, right?

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Round two. We'll get it done.

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I'm still nursing this stupid left eye, but it's all right.

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I can see good. When my one eye saw, I got my

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one eye. And Jonathan Rose and his new

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fella here. I'm going to, yeah.

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I just I. Just know, I just know that

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Jonathan Rose would not send one of his workers or one of his

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employees, I should say, and that would disappoint.

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The big, big show, the big, big mafia, our listeners, he would

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not disappoint. So he's going to sing that

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Jingle whether he likes it or not.

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But that's all right. Let's bring him on.

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Welcome to the big, big show, Bill Armour.

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He's on the spot now. A lot of pressure, Bill.

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A lot of pressure on the show. You can feel it already surging

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here. George got you tied into doing

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the Jingle. How are you, man?

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Thanks for joining us. It's the first time on the show.

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What's going on? Feeling great, happy to be here.

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Thanks so much for having me you guys.

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I'm cool under pressure. That's it exactly.

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Well, you, you probably are because you, you served eight

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years in the military and military intelligence, you know,

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and of course with that kind of background, you do have to keep

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it calm and cool. Depends on whether you're doing

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any of those ICA reports and what's actually going on.

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Maybe give the audience just a little bit of background on

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yourself just so they can get caught up.

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I know you've been in the bullion markets for about 7 or 8

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years, so maybe kind of give them a little other background

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on who you are. Yeah, absolutely.

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So during the military did 8 years military intelligence, got

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out, went to school, got a degree in biblical ministry,

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since been in finance and situationally or on the side

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their ministry as well did a little bit of vocational

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ministry. So been around, seen quite a few

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things, know quite a bit and hopefully can can give you guys

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some really interesting insight. Yeah, and, and it's interesting.

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I, you know what? We did a radio interview with

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you and I thought I was actually really impressed with your depth

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of knowledge. You know, the markets are always

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so, you know, there's only so many different data sets that

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really go into determining where the markets are going that it

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really takes a lot of experience in bullion markets or even the

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regular market, stock market, crypto markets now to really

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know what what's going to happen.

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But before we kick off, we always talk about, you know,

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owning hard assets. We always talk about

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diversification in your portfolio.

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And one of those pieces is, of course, the prepper bar.

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You know, I've said it before, your bank accounts could be gone

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by morning. You never know.

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This isn't crazy conspiracy theory.

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It's about to happen. We talked about it over and over

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again on the crypto power out on this show.

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The digital dollar is coming. And with it, the government

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gains total control over your money.

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But of course, it gets worse. We've talked about the hacking

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that happens. Our our financial system is

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always under pressure. You never know what's going to

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happen with it. They're going to try to cripple

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the US dollar in a way that'll make your accounts vanish,

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I don't like the sound of any of that.

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If you do, we'll put you up on social media and maybe even on

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the show all. Right ready, Bill 1.

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I'm going to do it with you all. Right, we're doing 3123 break me

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off a piece of that prepper bar. He's not even singing.

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He's just moving his lips. Come on bro, we're going to do

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one more that's. The only.

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One we're going to do it one more time Bill, because I got we

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I've told you got to do this twice.

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You're ready. Come on.

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Let's just let's go. All right, 123 break me off

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Piece of piece of. That prepper.

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Bar. There we go.

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Prepper bar. Johnson Rose.

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That's twice I want my gold prepper bar before I have to go

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and break some pretty. Good for a first time, Bill,

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I'll give you, I'll give you a round on that.

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How easy. George jumps in with that

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Jingle. You know it's his thing.

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Lance screws it up all the time so don't worry, but you did a

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great and better job than with. George on the on the old Prepper

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Bar Jingle. Well, there's a lot going on,

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man. And of of course, as always, we

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like to cover bricks, you know, bullion, Wall Street, you name

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it on the show. But I think we have to start off

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with it'd be unexpected and I and I titled this rut row.

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I'm thinking of old Shaggy and scooby-doo.

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Wholesale prices rose 0.9% in July, much more than expected.

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The producer, of course, the producer price index jumped by

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almost a full percentage point in July compared to the Dow

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Jones estimate for 0.2%. That was the biggest monthly

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increase since June. Of course, excluding food and

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energy prices, the core PPI rose 0.9 against the forecast of 0.2

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or 0.3. What do you think?

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You know, a lot of people are trying to point the finger at

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tariffs. Start with you, Bill.

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Tell me what you think. Where, where are we at on this?

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Why do you think this happened? Because a lot of people missed

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this number. Yeah, absolutely.

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I mean, I would, I would first I want to address the elephant in

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the room that is whenever you're dealing with the the BLS there

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and, and CPI numbers and whatnot, there's a long track

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record of the numbers not being honest.

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So, but eventually they have to get numbers because people won't

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believe them. So eventually they have to start

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putting these out, you know, and they're a little more accurate.

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So what I would I would argue, and you know, I'm not at at BLS,

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but what I would argue it's Bureau of Labor Statistics that

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are the ones that put out these CPI reports, etcetera, is that a

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lot of this is catch up to Biden era inflation that was not

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represented because they had downplayed that so heavily

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during his term. And so it's it's an easy finger

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point. And I think it's it's, you know,

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a broad goes into a broader discussion of the partisanship

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of the BLS, but of them putting together stats, just try and

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eventually get them to reflect what they currently exist.

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So, you know, I don't know how much of this is actually tied to

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the tariffs. I'm sure, you know, it could be

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some of it, you know, that's, that's probably undeniable at

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some level. But beyond that, I'm always

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skeptical whenever numbers are are this far off, you know,

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potentially with with what Trump has done.

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It's just been, you know, generally very, very positive.

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Yeah. And, and, and you are right

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about that. We talk about it often when it

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comes to polling. But the same thing with these

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numbers. We know there were some

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irregularities in the unemployment numbers.

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It seems like there's lots of holdovers in the administration.

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I agree with you. I don't think these numbers are

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accurate. If there is any accuracy, and

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I'm meaning that they came on the high side.

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I do believe it's that leftover from Joe Biden because, you

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know, talk about maybe the worst presidency in the history of the

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United States. Of course, I believe him to be

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an installed president, but other than that, didn't do a

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good job. Never was a business guy

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surrounded himself. What I would think ineffective

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leadership within his administration that didn't do

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the job. You know, I think it's simple

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enough to always point the finger.

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Everybody loves to to to villainize Donald Trump, you

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know, so how accurate these. I think it's a very good point

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you made. I agree with you.

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But I think you know, there, there obviously there is some

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impact. We are seeing some increases in

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prices. You know, you can see it on

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Amazon, you can see it on some of the platforms and some

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products have risen. Maybe it's knee jerk because of

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course we know that the as an example that China is not facing

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the tariffs that they will face. I think it's in another 90 days

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or maybe it's 75 days now and we're going to see some of this.

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There's no doubt. But at the end of the day, we do

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need a solution economically, $37 trillion in debt and

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counting. George, throw up that media too

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and then give me your comments. What do you think?

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Media too. Please.

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Well, listen, we've seen even like the labor market, job

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market numbers there. Now they have to change them up.

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I mean, it's hard to believe in any numbers.

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But what I seen yesterday come out and I know I talked to you

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about this land is the price housing, the housing market.

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Now this is kind of sets its own has actually slowed down where

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buyers are now have the upper hand and they're actually

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selling below list because before they were fighting

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prices, you know, yes, let's say example 200 for a house they

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were selling for 2/22/40. And I know first hand because it

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happened across the street from me.

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It's and it's crazy, but now buyers have have the upper hand

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and they're selling below cost. So, you know, we don't, we're

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not getting the real numbers anywhere from the government.

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So it's hard to tell. But you know, the market's going

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to be what the market's going to be.

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It's you know, we've seen for the last 6-5 months that because

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you know, everybody's panic over tariffs, but then you know, that

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fluctuated the market but not realizing back in 2017 trumped

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into tariffs and everything was fine just like it is now.

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We have so much, we have money coming in or change.

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Yeah, and they've been taking it.

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They do this globally. I think that's one thing.

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Historically we've taken a beating.

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They've taken advantage of our weak tariff policies for

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decades, really. And you know, I think the

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economic indicator of of, of now housing slowing down.

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Well, look, let's say it, face it, Jerome Powell is doing a

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tremendous amount of damage to this economy.

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You know, his unwillingness, and I think it's intentional to

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lower interest rates is, is definitely going to have an

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impact. Now, he sees these numbers and

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this is going to be his justification.

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Of course, he's going to use this to say, well, This is why

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I'm not lowering interest rates. But the truth of the matter is

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when you're dealing with a private institution like the

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Federal Reserve, even when those people aren't doing a good job,

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you can't fire him. And you heard Trump talking

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about a civil lawsuit that's going to get filed.

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That tells you everything you need to know.

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I've always said we need to nationalize the Federal Reserve.

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Not necessarily that I want the US government to be the only one

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running our money, but why? We're paying a private

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institution to print currency where they're charging us for a

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Fiat currency at face value after they print it, plus the

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printing cost. And then of course, they're

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charging us the interest on it when it doesn't even exist.

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I'm even questioning whether or not there's any gold in in Fort

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Knox at this point. There's supposed to be an audit

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with a video, you know, with a video team.

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And of course, that never happened.

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But when I look at these numbers, I think to myself, OK,

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US producer, you know, price index.

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What bothers me about this, and then I'll flip to you, William,

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is that I'm concerned that here's another thing to just

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crack the stock market, crack the crypto market.

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You combine this with, you know, Jerome Powell's unwillingness to

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lower interest rates, you know, whatever his policy beliefs are,

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and it's really damaging for recovery.

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And the question is, is it damaging to recovery because

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this is these numbers are accurate and Jerome Powell's

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right, or is it damaging the the economy because it's intentional

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to undermine the new administration with Donald

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Trump? What do you think?

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Absolutely. So, and, and I would just to

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clarify, you know, something earlier, while, while who knows,

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you know, when these statistics are coming and they're accurate,

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I think anyone with a brain can look around and say that things

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are getting more expensive, things are getting that this is

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the problem. You don't, you don't have to

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have exact numbers to know that. So whether or not they've been

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bad for a while, whether they're getting worse, how quickly

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they're getting worse, you know, there's some speculation there,

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but you can just look at this as a rational person and say, oh,

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there's a problem developing here and this doesn't end well.

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Now, in terms of Jerome Powell's stance on this, what he is, the

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people he's hurting really are our average everyday Americans,

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young people that want to buy homes, pieces like that.

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And that is really, you know, as a country where we want to make

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sure that people that work hard, you know, pay into the system,

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etcetera, are rewarded. And when you keep interest rates

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that high, you're a stopping them from starting businesses.

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They can't take out loans to start a business.

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They can't buy a home. So the people that you're

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crushing are the same people that end up renting, right?

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And we, you know, we all, I don't know, you know, who's

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benefiting from that, you know, BlackRock, etcetera.

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Vanguard. Vanguard, I think that this is,

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and I do agree with you somewhat of a coordinated effort here.

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People are making billions and billions and billions of dollars

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by keeping interest rates high and people stuck in the

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positions they're in. You know, I saw something, I

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think it came off a TikTok. I don't know.

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It was a nurse that had an 808 credit score, had a sizeable

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down payment written and she was in RN.

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She'd gone for the advanced nursing, you know, licenses, so

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clearly should be qualified as a first time home buyer.

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And, and she was talking about that even with her overtime

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wages. And we know, and of course we

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know that the medical industry, they make a good wage and of

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course overtime is really good for them.

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She couldn't afford a house. She figured out that even with

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her down payment that it just wasn't affordable.

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And to me that's that's really that's the ideal home buyer,

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right? Eight O 8 credit score really

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secure, you know, income stream, you know, good down payment.

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That should be somebody. But she was making a comment

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that the interest rates had put the the payment up so high that

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she didn't feel comfortable in doing it.

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Of course, that's why she has an 808 credit score.

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How much is? She cautious how much does she

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make and well how much was the house though, because that.

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Didn't go into all those details but.

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Factors into it though, like. She was being genuine when it

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came to it. And at the end of the the day, I

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think the interest rates when you're looking at what's what's,

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what's the average 30 year mortgage right now, 4 1/2, five,

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no more. Is it more than that?

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No, it's like 6. What is it?

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Yeah, six to seven, yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's insane,

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right? I mean, you look at what that

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does to a 30 year mortgage, that's almost double when you

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think about it payment wise, right?

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Doesn't that double your payment basically from what it would be

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with normal rates? And, and I don't think Powell

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cares. Powell doesn't like Donald

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Trump. I think it's a personal

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vendetta. I personally believe with agree

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with Rand, you know, the rands, of course, Rand Paul and Ron

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Paul. I think we ought to nationalize

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the Federal Reserve. I think we should end the Fed.

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I don't like a private institution controlling it.

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And at the end of the day, you know, I don't blame the, you

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know, BLS, you know, Donald Trump of course fired him.

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Everybody went into a big hoopla that he fired somebody, but he

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fired him for inaccurate numbers and I don't blame him.

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I don't, I would imagine that this may 'cause somebody to get

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fired this time also if they're not accurate.

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But what the damage, you're right, is being funneled down.

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And I think what's important is we always have to talk about

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real world impact. You know, you being the gold

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expert you are, I always want to know what this, what the impact

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this is going to be on the bullion markets because George

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and I aren't experienced enough to know that.

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So, you know, right now gold prices are steady.

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Of course the inflation dated delayed, you know, and and and

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no, you know, aggressive Fed interest rate cuts.

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But gold is at an you know, I think an all time high.

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Silver isn't back to the hunt brothers prices, but it's as

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high as it's been in a long time with I think it's what 38 and

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change. Is that right?

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Yep, you. Got it.

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Yeah. So tell me, what do you think

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the impact of this news and the fact that Powell now will have

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an excuse not to lower interest rates?

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Yeah, absolutely. So one thing I would say just

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about gold as a whole is that people maybe don't realize this

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because we've been on such a a bull run for medals as of late.

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But historically gold's best moves come when interest rates

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come down. So right now, Powell, you know,

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the fact that interest rates have been staying up gold is

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people think, oh, well, maybe that's why gold has been going

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up so much. Actually the opposite.

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Because when people can get money and they can put their

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money into ACD, let's say, or Treasury, and then get a great

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return on that relatively because, you know, rates are

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high, they're less likely to go into tangibles.

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So there's less demand. So what we know for a fact is

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that interest rates won't stay this high forever.

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Powell will be gone, you know, next year.

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And then we'll have someone in there that you know, hopefully

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aligns more with a realistic view of this country's future

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and interest rates will come down.

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And when they do, that will be some of the best news you could

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ever hope for for gold. So as far as rate staying

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steady, not staying steady, the the answer is gold's going to

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continue to move positively because of the debt issues, you

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know, other countries, bricks, etcetera.

00:18:49
But as another, you know, match to light the fire of gold's

00:18:53
explosion and price, you absolutely know that on the

00:18:55
horizon that's going to be very beneficial for you.

00:18:59
Well, he's going to lower the he's going to lower the interest

00:19:01
rates in September. He's going to drop it some.

00:19:04
He has to. There's no, there's, there's no,

00:19:06
there's no other way of looking at it because all the numbers

00:19:09
that they were looking at, it's just what two people from the

00:19:12
board left. Now Trump is replacing them.

00:19:14
The question is who's he going to replace?

00:19:16
It's Jerome Powell. So I'm saying maybe Scott

00:19:18
Besson, who knows. I don't know if he's a great

00:19:21
pick for that. We'll find out.

00:19:22
But. Well, I, I guess we'll have to

00:19:24
wait and see it. You know, the Federal Reserve is

00:19:28
one of those loose cannons. But I think the case, the case

00:19:31
here really is that even though short term is inflation is going

00:19:34
to push on gold for the moment, I think the case is still long

00:19:38
term bullish, don't you think? Of course, gold's up what, 37 or

00:19:42
8% year to date for the last 12 months, is that correct?

00:19:45
Yep, 36 1/2 percent. Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:19:49
And then the long term case, we haven't had any big, you know

00:19:52
the people always talk about what gold and silver is being

00:19:56
mined and there haven't been any really big reserves found,

00:19:59
right. There haven't been any big new

00:20:00
mining properties or new discoveries, correct?

00:20:03
No, that's correct. I'm glad you asked that.

00:20:04
So we, we do have incredible technology that's able to scan

00:20:08
the Earth's crust for metals. And it's, it's good to a good to

00:20:12
a point it, it can generally identify where there is gold,

00:20:15
but it's not great identifying exactly how much.

00:20:17
And one of the things that we found is, is general estimations

00:20:20
for how much, you know, gold and silver we have, we're finding

00:20:23
these deposits and they're much smaller than we had anticipated.

00:20:26
So what that means in layman's terms is there's less gold and

00:20:30
silver than we thought. And as you know, as anyone with

00:20:32
an economics, you know, has ever been to an economics class in

00:20:35
their life or just been around the block, you know, supply and

00:20:38
demand. And so as we find out that

00:20:40
there's less gold and silver, it's a finite resource.

00:20:42
We're not going to, it's not like the Fed where they're just

00:20:44
going to make more of it. So once we're out, once there's

00:20:47
no more to be mined, it is a you have or you do not have.

00:20:51
Well you know what? Never say never because look at

00:20:54
let's say diamonds, right? How they make lab grown diamonds

00:20:58
now they take it from a little piece of diamond like a crumb.

00:21:02
They just expedite the process of what it would be in the earth

00:21:04
to make it, you know, so you never know what gold is.

00:21:07
Anything's possible. They'll probably, they might

00:21:09
come up with it one day. You know, gold.

00:21:11
Gold's actually not even native to the planet.

00:21:13
It's from asteroids. This is true.

00:21:15
Look this up. It's from they they slam into

00:21:17
the Earth and that's where the deposits of gold come through.

00:21:19
It does not naturally occurring. That is crazy.

00:21:22
I never knew that. I actually didn't know that

00:21:24
we're sitting at what, 3300 high 80s?

00:21:27
You might be able to duplicate this somehow, who knows.

00:21:29
Yeah. Well, 33180, I'm looking at the

00:21:34
resistance and support. Of course there's been a lot of

00:21:37
accumulation in that 3300 and 3533, you know 3333 I should

00:21:44
say. The question is what do you

00:21:46
think is going to what's the next breakout level?

00:21:48
We're at 3800 and change since we've had so much support and

00:21:52
consolidation at those numbers, where do you think the next

00:21:55
level is? You know, George thinks we're

00:21:58
way past 4000 come the end of the year. 3800.

00:22:03
Oh, is that what you? Is that your last prediction 30?

00:22:05
838, yeah. Well, you're you, you know, OK,

00:22:09
So what do you think? What do you think for?

00:22:11
The end of the year or just what the general receipt?

00:22:13
End of the year. The end of the year, I mean, so

00:22:17
whenever I get this question, the the answer is twofold

00:22:19
because a lot of the things I mean we can have tomorrow, we

00:22:23
can come out and bring, you know, or next month or you know

00:22:25
what not they can have the bricks forum and and things can

00:22:27
change dramatically. So I look at it as, you know, of

00:22:31
course there's going to be steady growth and that 3800 is

00:22:33
probably a pretty reasonable expectation for the end of the

00:22:35
year. But the real moves in in gold

00:22:38
and silver will come when the things that we're waiting for

00:22:41
occur, and that is bricks. That's, you know, you know,

00:22:44
really rapid de dollarization we're experiencing or obviously,

00:22:48
you know, a, a real fiscal disaster here with the, the Fiat

00:22:51
currency. So any of those I, I look at it

00:22:53
not in the stretch of, of, you know, one year, six months, but

00:22:56
in the stretch of, you know, 25, you know, 10 years.

00:22:59
And what is it doing over that? Because those singular events

00:23:03
will manifest in much greater returns than any one thing.

00:23:06
And and with that, you're either early to that or you're late to

00:23:09
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00:23:19
You guys have been way ahead of the curve.

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it's hard to because each each case is individual, but I guess

00:23:41
touch on, I know last time Jonathan was on the show, he

00:23:44
thought that everybody should be, if they are investing in

00:23:46
bullion, it should be 70% silver, 30% gold.

00:23:50
Now I know you guys also carry platinum and Palladium.

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So if you think exposure to those assets is important, maybe

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pepper a little of that in there.

00:23:58
Sure, sure, absolutely. So in, in terms of exposure, you

00:24:01
would really just look at and, and you know why you would maybe

00:24:04
go heavier in silver than gold, you know, like a 7030 split or

00:24:07
so is you would look at the historic tie insurance between

00:24:12
gold and silver. You're looking anywhere from

00:24:14
from 15 when it was when gold was tied here to the dollar was

00:24:18
tied to gold all the way up to about 3035 here historically.

00:24:22
So 35 ounces to 15 ounces is a pretty reasonable place for

00:24:26
silver to equal gold. Now at this current juncture, we

00:24:29
find ourselves closer to 8090. So what does that tell us?

00:24:31
Tells us one of two things, either gold is tremendously

00:24:35
overvalued or silver is tremendously undervalued.

00:24:37
And every technical indicator, every fundamental indicator we

00:24:40
have would say that gold is in fact not overvalued.

00:24:43
It's it's really, it's undervalued.

00:24:45
But silver in particular, then the only logical conclusion

00:24:48
there is silver is dramatically, dramatically undervalued.

00:24:51
And there's a lot of explanations on that, that that

00:24:53
we can get into if we had more time.

00:24:55
But you look at even things like the JP Morgan silver lawsuit,

00:24:58
the paper silver lawsuit and why that's staying down.

00:25:01
At some point though, that does materialize and you can see that

00:25:04
come back more into the historic norms at which point you're

00:25:07
talking about just to, to fall in line with that, you know, 15

00:25:11
to 30 oz to 1 ounce of gold ratio.

00:25:14
That's a, you know, a 2 to 300% return.

00:25:16
So, you know, when that happens, no one has a crystal ball, but

00:25:20
certainly I'd like to be there when it does.

00:25:22
As far as platinum and Palladium, in niche

00:25:24
circumstances, for investors that want to be really

00:25:28
categorically separated, we can definitely help with that.

00:25:31
But as a rule of thumb for most general investors, they're going

00:25:34
to stick to gold and silver. They're a little more reliable

00:25:36
and less volatile. You know, there's been a lot of

00:25:38
stuff in the press that there's a shortage of platinum because

00:25:42
of its uses, you know, medical equipment, electronics.

00:25:46
Any thought that you think that that's going to that that that

00:25:49
disparity in the industrial, the industrial needs is going to is

00:25:52
going to be, is that starting to really impact the price right

00:25:54
now? Yeah, absolutely.

00:25:57
We're definitely seeing some of that.

00:25:59
We're still waiting because there's a a report coming out

00:26:01
talking about abundance of of platinum.

00:26:03
So we're kind of waiting on that before we make any large scale

00:26:06
determinations on, on price predictions there.

00:26:09
But you're right, the the industrial use of platinum is

00:26:11
widespread and will continue to be widespread.

00:26:14
But on the flip side, you've got silver as well, which you know

00:26:17
they believe the Samsung here that just came out with a new

00:26:20
battery takes a kilo per battery.

00:26:22
It's more effective in in every single way than the lithium ion

00:26:24
batteries. I would, I would make a pretty

00:26:26
strong suggestion that that in fact fully replaces the lithium

00:26:30
ion battery in the next 5 to 10 years.

00:26:32
So that'll be a dramatic increase in the amount of silver

00:26:35
that we're utilizing and therefore a demand or a demand

00:26:38
increase. Silver in the battery, Yes.

00:26:40
Tell them Lance. Well, there's no doubt that

00:26:43
Samsung technology, there's a couple of big manufacturers that

00:26:46
I know are looking at embracing that technology because of

00:26:49
course the efficiency of the battery.

00:26:51
I think you can charge the entire battery in under 10

00:26:53
minutes is what they're claiming.

00:26:55
And and my understanding is you can add about 300 miles of

00:26:59
distance drive because the battery's that much more

00:27:02
efficient. Now, I don't know if that's 100%

00:27:03
true. That's some of the early

00:27:04
reporting. Like, you know, I don't know if

00:27:06
they've got real world tests in different models of cars or not,

00:27:10
but let's talk about silver, the Silver's 38 and change.

00:27:14
You know, we've heard that there's a shortage and that the

00:27:19
shortage is going to get worse. A bunch of people are saying

00:27:22
even though silver fell a little bit, I know it came back pretty

00:27:25
quickly and there seems to be a ton of support.

00:27:28
I don't think we're going to see the high 20s anymore, that's for

00:27:31
sure. A lot of people are talking the

00:27:32
basement really anymore is about 33 or $34.

00:27:36
I don't know if that's true on your end or what you think.

00:27:39
Let's talk about the green energy.

00:27:43
You know, of course lots of needs for silver and that just

00:27:45
like you mentioned EVs, do you think the lack of any new real

00:27:50
big deposits around the globe, what do you see maybe over the

00:27:54
next 12 months for silver? What's what are your thoughts on

00:27:57
where it's going to head? Right, absolutely.

00:27:59
And just to touch base on on one thing you'd said there a moment

00:28:02
ago about the consolidation we're seeing with silver.

00:28:05
The reason this is very different than the last time we

00:28:07
saw all time silver highs is you're seeing much more of a

00:28:11
growth and then consolidation pattern, which is not something

00:28:14
we saw in silver's last bull run.

00:28:16
It was much more of a fanatical response to actually gold's you

00:28:20
know massive drive there. So we're seeing a much more

00:28:22
consistent growth in that, which is a great sign for the long

00:28:25
term performance of silver as opposed to it just being, you

00:28:28
know, a addish growth. So that's a great sign.

00:28:31
In terms of the, the the growth on silver, I think that we're

00:28:35
looking at at well over $40 obviously in the next month or

00:28:39
so. And then once you break that

00:28:41
$40, a lot of this, particularly with every $10 you see a

00:28:45
psychological barriers, at least that's the historical trend on

00:28:48
these. So you tend to see with gold, it

00:28:50
was 2000, right when it broke 2000 people didn't really it's

00:28:53
too high, it's too high. Then once it got to, you know,

00:28:55
2120220300, eventually people started saying, you know, wait a

00:28:59
minute, this doesn't seem to be slowing down.

00:29:01
And here we are at 3200. So you see those at every check

00:29:04
mark. That's just human psychology.

00:29:06
Once you see that $40 break, you should see a lot of growth

00:29:09
there. Yeah, regrets.

00:29:12
Most people have regrets. They look back and say why

00:29:14
didn't I buy it at the 18-19 hundred or the 2100?

00:29:17
But you know, you're going to keep doing that as it's moving

00:29:20
right now. We'd love to have the Hunt

00:29:21
Brothers back in the mix. I mean, they pushed silver damn

00:29:23
near up to 48 or $49.00. I don't think it quite made 50

00:29:27
before their whole House of Cards came tumbling down, but I

00:29:30
think that was a 700% increase for where silver was before they

00:29:34
started to go after that market. You know, the, the audience in

00:29:39
general, we, we, a lot of them talk about silver because they

00:29:42
like, you know, because of course the price entry point is

00:29:44
reasonable. If somebody comes to you, you

00:29:47
know, we always talk about diversification for safety.

00:29:51
Do you feel, feel like there's a perfect age, you know, you know,

00:29:56
section of the, of the demographic where people should

00:29:59
be transferring, they're getting close to retirement?

00:30:02
Is there an age group that you feel like it's more important

00:30:05
than for them to be, you know, of course risk averse and and

00:30:08
look at hard assets like silver and gold?

00:30:11
Well, certainly. So one of the ways I would frame

00:30:13
it, for instance, is let's say you're someone who has a pension

00:30:16
and Social Security and so your income is fixed there.

00:30:19
Maybe you get, you know, COLA adjustments on your Social

00:30:21
Security, but ultimately your your income is going to be fixed

00:30:24
there for the rest of your life. Now, if inflation is

00:30:27
dramatically going to continue to affect you at some point,

00:30:30
what is good for you now will not be good for you long term,

00:30:33
right? That won't be enough.

00:30:34
So you're going to want something that will grow

00:30:37
alongside this inflation that obviously is a tremendous place

00:30:40
for gold. So generally really that's

00:30:42
retirees, people close to retirement who don't want to see

00:30:45
the big swings in the market. They don't want to see a repeat

00:30:47
of 2008. Now don't get me wrong, I think

00:30:50
everybody should have gold or silver and whether you're you're

00:30:52
20 or or or 90. But at the same time, certainly

00:30:56
the people that need to have gold and silver in a portfolio

00:30:59
in order to diversify are going to the be people that are in the

00:31:02
latter stages, retirement or near retirement.

00:31:04
Yeah, I've got you. And I think that's important

00:31:07
advice. We always talk about it on the

00:31:09
show that diversification is where your safety is, right?

00:31:12
The fact that you don't want to be overweighted at any

00:31:14
particular asset. We talk about crypto a lot and

00:31:17
all the other markets. OK, I know we're getting heading

00:31:21
short to a break here, George. We are.

00:31:24
I was, I was texting Jonathan that he lost and he's like what?

00:31:28
I'm like, yeah, I got the I got on video.

00:31:30
He couldn't believe it. All right, you know, I told him,

00:31:33
I says I put him on a spot, says I told him You don't want to

00:31:35
disappoint the big, big mafia and every all our listeners.

00:31:39
So, listeners, just. Start my money.

00:31:41
All right. No, listen, he, he promised me

00:31:45
way before you're in a picture and you know.

00:31:48
George has been working him on that gold prep for Barb for a

00:31:50
long time. He's.

00:31:51
Been that, you know, trying to be that slick Brit.

00:31:53
I'm going to call him, you know, so he gave a challenge.

00:31:56
He lost. There's witnesses again.

00:31:59
I don't want to have to go to California and Nevada and just

00:32:01
walk in the office and have to. I don't know, the odds on Polly

00:32:04
Market are not good at him coming off any gold.

00:32:06
You know, he holds on to that gold like he's a leprechaun.

00:32:08
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So you know by Bill, I know you don't have much time left

00:39:50
because I know you've got some appointments you've got to make.

00:39:53
So I want to get your input on this just before you leave.

00:39:56
I think this is a big point bombshell we're supposed to be

00:39:59
making ourselves. The, you know, the, the world's

00:40:03
capital for crypto. Everybody's been very hopeful

00:40:07
about the, the, you know, the change in the SE CS position,

00:40:12
the, you know, the, the legislation that Donald Trump,

00:40:15
the Clarity Act, the Genius Act and some other policies, I

00:40:20
think. Besson, Scott Besson, who's of

00:40:23
course the US Treasury Secretary, I think he screwed

00:40:26
the pooch today. I think that was absolutely the

00:40:28
worst thing he'd have done on an interview.

00:40:31
You know, everybody thought that the strategic crypto reserve was

00:40:35
some of that was going to be purchased.

00:40:37
It was not just going to be assets that had been seized from

00:40:41
criminal enterprises moved into a strategic reserve. the US

00:40:44
government hasn't done a good job of managing those in

00:40:46
general. They've sold a lot of them at

00:40:48
bargain basement prices, tons and tons of Bitcoin.

00:40:51
It would be worth excessive amounts of money from the Silk

00:40:54
Road seizures and other seizures, do you think?

00:40:57
Did did Scott Besson screw the pooch here?

00:40:59
I mean, what do you think about this comment about how the US is

00:41:02
not going to be buying Bitcoin? Well, I, I think it's just a, a

00:41:06
very strange backtracking. I think my interpretation of

00:41:10
this is that there's something we're missing here because it,

00:41:12
it is such AU turn from the, the direction, you know, what the,

00:41:16
the administration had put out up to this point.

00:41:18
And anytime I see something that goes so against the grain in

00:41:22
that way, my next question is why and so screwed the pooch.

00:41:26
Absolutely. Is there more to it?

00:41:27
I would guess so. Well, I have some answers for

00:41:30
you. So first, when Trump announced

00:41:33
they're doing crypto reserves, Bitcoin wasn't part of it.

00:41:36
It was only XRP, Ethereum, a bunch of others.

00:41:38
And when like, you know, people start complaining, they added

00:41:42
Bitcoin. So it's no surprise.

00:41:44
But also Trump with Trump Media Group, they have Bitcoin

00:41:48
reserves. So, you know, if people start

00:41:51
selling off and then all of a sudden he announces that, all

00:41:53
right, we're going to, we're going to start buying it.

00:41:56
How much money are you going to make?

00:41:57
And everybody else, there's always an angle.

00:41:59
There's always something here. So it was never really begin.

00:42:02
It was never really to be Bitcoin in reserves anyway.

00:42:05
It was added on to it. So it's not, it's not no

00:42:07
surprise, but whether they continue to do it or not, just

00:42:10
everybody's going to make money. Well, the Bitcoin, the Bitcoin

00:42:13
Maxis, I think they're, they've got their panties in it and.

00:42:17
I have a feeling though. They're clenching right now

00:42:20
because this goes against everything they had hoped for.

00:42:22
I agree with you. He did mention XRP, Solana and

00:42:25
Ethereum in the very beginning. He didn't mention Bitcoin.

00:42:28
And then of course, he circled back, I think Eric Trump and

00:42:31
Donald Trump Junior said, oh, wait a minute, you can't do

00:42:33
that. The Bitcoin Maxis, I don't know

00:42:35
what happened. Of course, he added it after the

00:42:36
fact. Now, some people on the other

00:42:38
side of the crypto aisle, this would be the last thing, Bill.

00:42:40
And then I know you got to go XRP, Solana and Ethereum, those

00:42:43
people are rejoicing. They are thinking that the

00:42:47
acquisition, we've heard a lot of rumors, not really SO20022

00:42:51
the SWIFT system who's going to be replacing.

00:42:54
Some people think it's going to be link, other people think it's

00:42:58
it's XRP. We know there's 3300 agreements

00:43:01
that have never been publicly announced because of the SEC

00:43:04
case. XRP has made those agreements

00:43:07
with lots of institutions and banks and countries around the

00:43:11
globe. So I don't know.

00:43:12
We'll see what happens. We'll keep an eye on this.

00:43:14
Bills. Thank you so very much for

00:43:16
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00:43:58
Bill, you want to go for a third time's a charm?

00:44:00
We did it twice around. It doesn't make any difference.

00:44:03
You already won. I know, but we just want to do

00:44:06
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00:44:07
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00:44:18
All right, All right, So listen, you know Scott Besson, I think

00:44:26
he screwed the pooch. They're not going to be buying

00:44:29
that declared flatly during that interview.

00:44:33
We've got the clip I think, George, don't we?

00:44:35
No. No, we should try to grab that.

00:44:38
I should have put that in there. Let me let me drag it over you

00:44:40
kind of just go on with the story from it.

00:44:41
Let me just grab it you. Don't have to grab it.

00:44:43
What do you want? I have it on my laptop computer.

00:44:45
Which one you want, Scott? Was going to say just the just

00:44:47
that interview clip we had where he's talking about that I'll.

00:44:52
Get it? Don't worry, you just keep

00:44:53
going, keep talking. I'll get, I'll grab.

00:44:55
It yeah. So look, this is a stark pivot.

00:44:58
I mean, you know, the hype of a Bitcoin moon mission and that

00:45:02
the US government was going to be actively buying Bitcoin was

00:45:05
the assumption everybody made that they were going to be

00:45:08
actively buying Ethereum, Solana, XRP as part of this

00:45:12
strategic reserve. One guy on social media popped

00:45:17
out with FU Besant. Yeah, he he wasn't that's dark

00:45:23
came from dark Soulja 3323. Then then then of course,

00:45:29
another guy comes out and said he just really pissed off all

00:45:32
the crypto holders that voted for Trump.

00:45:36
Another post raged on about now. Some people rejoiced and they

00:45:42
said now you know, the end game is XRP.

00:45:46
Is that true? I don't know, We'll have to see.

00:45:48
Well, go ahead, George. So I wouldn't get too much of an

00:45:55
frenzy about this because I'm telling you, buy, buy in the dip

00:46:00
of Bitcoin and watch. You're going to make money and

00:46:01
you're going to thank me later. Just buy, buy into the dip

00:46:05
because already went to 124, whatever's down now 1/19/18,

00:46:08
whatever, buy into the dip and you're going to make money

00:46:11
within a week or two and you're going to say, damn, I love

00:46:13
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00:46:47
I hear XRP. They haven't done it yet.

00:46:49
They're not rolling XRP yet. But I heard his comment.

00:46:51
So in Etherium a lot of people are pretty optimistic.

00:46:54
Etherium hitting all time highs but digital gold?

00:46:57
I don't know. There might be a pause here.

00:46:59
Institutional buying in the ETFs took a hit right after Besson

00:47:02
opened his trap. You know, he said no taxpayer

00:47:07
funded crypto gambling, tweeted hedge fund analyst Bull Vision.

00:47:12
You know that now they're going to rely on seizures.

00:47:15
I have the clip if you want it. Yeah, let's, let's, let's hear

00:47:18
it from the horse's mouth, of course, for the audience all.

00:47:20
Right, here we go. You're talking about number way

00:47:24
above 750 billion. What's the story on Gold You?

00:47:29
Know we we've got this the large gold holding I I doubt we're

00:47:32
going to revalue it, but we are we are going to keep it there

00:47:36
again as a store of value for the American people.

00:47:39
We've also started A to get into the 21st century a Bitcoin

00:47:45
strategic reserve. We're not going to be buying

00:47:47
that, but we are going to use confiscated assets and continue

00:47:53
to build that up. We're going to stop selling

00:47:55
that. You know, I, I believe that

00:47:57
Bitcoin reserve at today's prices is, is somewhere between

00:48:01
15 and 20 billion. That's it. 1520 billion should

00:48:07
be a lot more. That's why they sold a lot of

00:48:10
it, stupidly, the Silk Road stuff, a lot of that got

00:48:12
liquidity. You know what prior?

00:48:13
To this decision by the administration.

00:48:16
That's not counting the money that that the like the DA still

00:48:20
has a Bitcoin they're holding from seizures.

00:48:24
Yeah, there's a couple of the seizures.

00:48:26
They are Homeland Security. That's not that's not including

00:48:28
that. It should be a lot more.

00:48:30
But listen, I like to keep track of it to see who's who dipped

00:48:34
into it. You know, I don't trust him, but

00:48:38
we're going to. Keep you on top of this,

00:48:39
especially when keeping with the.

00:48:40
Gold in Fort Knox What gold? Where is the gold in Fort Knox?

00:48:43
There is no. Gold.

00:48:44
He wasn't going to revalue the gold.

00:48:46
Did you hear him say that? Because what?

00:48:48
Did you hear him say he wasn't going to revalue?

00:48:51
That. Asset, yeah, keeping it that

00:48:53
$60.00 an ounce, I think what George?

00:48:55
And I'll take all of it at 60 an ounce.

00:48:58
But of course, you know, it's always about, I think fortune

00:49:00
favors the informed is my opinion.

00:49:03
So if you like what you're hearing on this show, you'll

00:49:05
probably love our Crypto Power Hour.

00:49:07
We do this show at 1:00 PM. We usually try to get the

00:49:10
Genesis gold guys on to participate as long as they can.

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They're awfully busy over there, which tells you how good the

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00:49:18
Also, we've got the crypto power hour, 3:00 PM Wednesday and

00:49:22
Friday, every Wednesday and Friday, crypto power.

00:49:24
Now, George says we might be changing the time.

00:49:27
Rumble would like us to maybe move it to a new time slot

00:49:29
because they'd like it in a busier slot because it's doing

00:49:31
so well. It's the number one crypto show

00:49:33
on Rumble right now. So if you want to get educated,

00:49:37
this is spot to be for finance. Let's talk about bricks in 2025,

00:49:41
Jordan navigating tariffs, you know, unity, economic shifts.

00:49:47
You know, Donald Trump says he's not going to allow this to

00:49:49
happen. He's not going to allow anybody

00:49:51
to undermine the US dollar as the Petro dollar or otherwise.

00:49:55
What do you think, man? World?

00:49:56
You know, I think the world's grappling with a lot of

00:49:58
escalating trade tensions, a lot of kinetic events.

00:50:02
What do you think? Well, you know, Trump's, it's

00:50:06
Trump's meeting with Putin today, you know, over Ukraine.

00:50:09
And he's there in Alaska. I'm pretty sure Brexit is going

00:50:12
to be brought up in this conversation and Trump be like,

00:50:16
yo, Vlad, what are you trying to do, man?

00:50:18
Why are you trying to undermine our US money?

00:50:20
So listen, as long as there are strong leaders in this country

00:50:26
who are leading it, I don't think BRICS is going to do what

00:50:29
it what people think it's going to do.

00:50:31
I'm not worried about it. As long as we have strong

00:50:34
leaders. We have weak leaders and they

00:50:36
see that weakness, of course they're going to pray on that

00:50:38
weakness. Look at the last four years, for

00:50:40
example. And there's been other times,

00:50:42
but you know, bricks is bricks. You can't.

00:50:45
I, I can never mock a country for trying to do something that

00:50:48
they, you know, they do. Personally countries.

00:50:53
I said, well, a country for doing it.

00:50:54
So that means any country. But but look, hold on.

00:50:58
I think United States should should actually go back to the

00:51:01
gold standard. I agree.

00:51:04
So maybe if United States said hell with it, let's just join

00:51:10
bricks and lead bricks. What do you think?

00:51:12
What do you think would happen? We couldn't do that because it

00:51:15
the damage it would do to our dollar as far as being the the

00:51:18
Petro dollar currency would be huge.

00:51:21
We have a solution for the $37 trillion in debt for the Federal

00:51:24
Reserve. Do we have a solution for that?

00:51:26
I don't know. But of course, for everybody out

00:51:28
in the audience might not be familiar with bricks, you have

00:51:29
to look at the alliance. You've got Brazil, Russia,

00:51:31
India, China and South Africa for the initial countries, but a

00:51:35
lot of it's expanded in recent years and there's more countries

00:51:38
joining. You got Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran,

00:51:41
Saudi Arabia, you know, United Arab Emirates.

00:51:44
So you got to look that BRICS now actually represents as an

00:51:48
institution 40% of the global population.

00:51:51
So that's that's a significant share of the world GDP when you

00:51:54
think about it, right? So I think there's no doubt I

00:51:58
agree with you, strong leadership can slow this down.

00:52:01
The question is US tariffs, are they pushing BRICS nations?

00:52:06
You know, maybe sparking what I would consider a unified

00:52:09
response, maybe even a bold escalation because of the tariff

00:52:12
position That I think is justified.

00:52:14
I think we've been screwed over on tariffs for a very long time.

00:52:17
But these nations are using it as a way to say to each other,

00:52:20
well, we can't let them continue to do this.

00:52:23
But he's demanding these trade concessions.

00:52:25
This is what they're saying, not what I'm saying.

00:52:27
And I think that's pushing the bridge, the BRICS nations closer

00:52:31
where there has been some division.

00:52:33
You know, China didn't go to the last meeting.

00:52:35
Russia didn't go to the last meeting, probably because they

00:52:38
were in negotiation over tariffs and didn't want to poke the

00:52:41
lion. You know, they didn't want to

00:52:42
poke the beast. So what do you think with the

00:52:46
with tariffs being in play, do you think that maybe is making

00:52:49
the BRICS nations kind of huddle together and say, you know, we

00:52:52
can't put up with this? Well, listen, China is trying

00:53:02
to, China's trying to come, come to a deal with US with the

00:53:06
tariffs. So I don't know if it's if it's

00:53:08
a play. I mean people that are like

00:53:10
India's having, you know, I'm surprised India hasn't made a

00:53:13
deal. What are they waiting on?

00:53:14
What are they doing? I don't know.

00:53:16
But Brazil is Brazil, Russia. I think part of the, you know,

00:53:23
when Trump today and whenever he's talking to Putin, and part

00:53:25
of the that's going to be part of the talks too, is tariffs.

00:53:29
Trump wants to make a deal. He wants to get this war ended

00:53:33
because for a lot of reasons, one, it's sending all our money

00:53:38
weapons is it's not economically feasible anymore.

00:53:43
It's better for the world. But another third, more

00:53:45
important fact, Trump wants that for his ego and to get that

00:53:48
Pulitzer Prize because that will seal the deal.

00:53:51
And, you know, he wants that. What, Out of doubt 'cause you

00:53:55
know, yeah, I don't disagree with you.

00:53:57
You know, I think Ukraine lost the way the day it started.

00:54:00
But you know, when you look at bricks, right, and you look at

00:54:02
how these nations are operating almost like a second NATO in

00:54:05
their own way, you know, you look at that sneaky Brazilian

00:54:09
President bastard. You know, Lula da Silva, I don't

00:54:13
like him. I think he was installed.

00:54:15
I think he cheated, but, you know, he's pushing the nation's

00:54:19
behind the scenes. He's been engaged in phone calls

00:54:21
with many of the nations trying to tell him we have to de

00:54:23
dollarize sooner. We have to push for a BRICS

00:54:26
currency sooner to facilitate trade between our countries.

00:54:30
You know, So when you've got somebody like that, you know,

00:54:33
you know, squeaking into everybody's ear, you have to

00:54:35
wonder, right? And of course, they don't like

00:54:36
the tariffs because they've been getting away with screwing us

00:54:39
for so many decades over tariffs.

00:54:43
But now you've got a new development.

00:54:44
The bank announces they're guaranteed fund to boost

00:54:46
financing the bricks back new Development Bank.

00:54:50
They're set to launch a new guarantee fund aimed at reducing

00:54:53
financing costs and attracting private investments for

00:54:55
infrastructure projects in member states.

00:54:58
Now, as timely as that is, it makes me wonder, you know,

00:55:02
what's Donald Trump's big play? He's been meeting with Brad

00:55:05
Garlinghouse. Brad Garlinghouse after the SEC

00:55:08
settlement just got named to a board of advisors in the White

00:55:11
House for crypto. And I'm wondering, is this all

00:55:15
part of this change over to the ISO 20022, you know, getting rid

00:55:19
of SWIFT? Is this maybe a response?

00:55:22
Because I don't think they can lower the rates low enough to

00:55:25
compete with decentralized finance, George.

00:55:27
And of course, Donald Trump's been very vocal about making us

00:55:30
the central hub for the crypto, you know, metaverse or universe,

00:55:35
call it whatever you want. That's his plan now.

00:55:37
I, I think Scott Besson sent us back today.

00:55:40
I think that was a bad choice on his part.

00:55:42
But what do you think? Do you think even if this bank,

00:55:45
this initiative through the, the, the new Development Bank, I

00:55:49
don't think this is almost too little too late for me because

00:55:51
of what's going on with, you know, the SWIFT system and XRP

00:55:55
and the other, the other coins that are in that system and the

00:55:57
changeover. That's a tough call.

00:56:02
I mean, I, I have to agree with you on that.

00:56:05
I don't, I think it is too late. You know, when we're talking

00:56:09
about just for example, like, you know, going to the gold

00:56:12
standard, they won't, they won't do it in this country and they

00:56:18
won't get rid of the swift and go back to the gold, at least

00:56:21
not the gold standard because there is no gold.

00:56:22
So there's no standard to go with it.

00:56:24
That's the problem. But I think lands like the the

00:56:28
wave of the future and people see it is, you know,

00:56:31
decentralized and that's where that's where we're headed.

00:56:34
Whether anybody, whether the government likes or not, where

00:56:37
there's a well, there's a way with people when we want

00:56:38
something, when we want to get it done, they'll get it done.

00:56:42
That's it. Can't can't, you know, that's

00:56:45
what I'm sorry, I'm just trying to fix something.

00:56:49
No, are things I actually. Agree with you.

00:56:51
So, you know, I think when you look at an era, I think we're in

00:56:53
an era of fracturing alliances, you know, of course, and rising

00:56:56
protectionism. There's many countries that are,

00:56:59
you know, going eat, going introverted.

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I think brick stands as a beacon for emerging economies.

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I think they're proving that the collective action, you know, can

00:57:07
counter unilateral dominance. I think the US has taken

00:57:10
advantage of a lot of these countries in many ways,

00:57:12
petrodollars and otherwise. But I don't think this is an

00:57:15
instant fix. And I don't think China wants to

00:57:18
rock the boat with Donald Trump. I think they're worried about

00:57:20
the consequences of those actions.

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They haven't come to the table with guaranteeing they're not

00:57:24
going to be shipping precursor chemicals for, you know,

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methamphetamine, fentanyl and car fentanyl yet.

00:57:31
Hopefully that's part of the negotiation.

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But right now, Donald Trump is meeting with one of the most

00:57:36
powerful members of Bricks. Of course, Russia and Alaska is

00:57:39
meeting with Putin. And, you know, those guys have

00:57:41
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You've seen the mutual respect. That can't be good for Bricks no

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