Global Finance Forum From Bullion To Borders We Cover It All |EP526
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Global Finance Forum From Bullion To Borders We Cover It All |EP526

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APRIL 11, 2025 

EPISODE 526- 1PM

 

Core CPI Inflation in the US just fell below 3.0% for the first time since March 2021

March CPI inflation FALLS to 2.4%, below expectations of 2.5%.

Core CPI inflation FALLS to 2.8%, below expectations of 3.0%.

Strong safe-haven demand sees gold surge as stocks struggle

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Street, it's all included. It's a great way to catch up on

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the end of the week. We got to start off with

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inflation. I mean, I know tariffs in the

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big news. We're definitely going to be

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talking about tariffs. But let's go back into

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inflation. Finally, we're seeing some

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numbers that make people smile. Just fell below 3% for the first

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time since March of 2021. Maybe the effects of the Biden

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administration are finally starting to recede like a dirty

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cesspool of toilet water. Is it going back into the sewer?

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That's what I want to know. Jonathan, what do you think

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about these inflation numbers? Yeah.

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I mean, they're kind of numbers on a sheet.

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But if you're speaking to the general public and their

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sentiment of things becoming more expensive or less

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expensive, I think you'll probably have a counter argument

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on their hands there. And I think to kind of see a

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little bit of reprieve, whether it's at the gas pump or the

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grocery store, I think we're gonna have to wait for a little

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bit of a trickle effect because I think with what's happening

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globally, I actually think we're going to end up with with a

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higher core inflation rate. So I guess time will tell and

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and we'll see if I'm correct on that.

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But I'm not seeing any any, any prices coming down at grocery

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stores or consumer goods right now.

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In fact, I'd probably say it's the opposite.

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What's your guidance? You know, it's interesting.

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I'm seeing prices come down at the grocery store.

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You know, I do my own shopping. I also do my mom's shopping.

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Clearly eggs are down. You can get two dozen over to

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Costco now for under 9 bucks and they're actually the organic

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free range ones that they've been selling for that price.

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You know, look what we're looking at is over the last

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three months we've seen inflation drop by 90 basis

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points. Now, just like you always say on

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the show, short term gain, you know, short term pain, long term

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gain, I think you're right. I think the tariffs are going to

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have an impact, although of course, art of the deal, the

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real strategy for tariffs may have to do with the bonds.

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It may have to do with other things.

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I think there's a lot of layers. I think it's 5D chess.

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The bond market just broke a 90 day tariff pause.

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And you've seen that we can throw up that chart, George.

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This chart kind of shows what's been going on with that, what's

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kind of happened with the bond market.

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Now, of course, we know that China's dumping U.S.

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Treasuries right now. They've been dumping them in

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retaliation to these tariffs. I think it was overdue.

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We had to get into this trade deficit issue sooner than later.

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Biden wasn't capable of fixing it.

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Donald Trump was an end. So we only had to wait it out.

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Now he's back in. Of course, he's going to focus

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on this. Do I believe it's going to

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impact our? Yeah, of course.

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I think price is going to go up. But I also think that Trump has

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got a plan for the American people to have generational

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wealth. I do believe, and I know this

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first hand, I'm going to give up a little tip here to our

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audience behind the scenes. The discussion is to get rid of

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the federal income tax. He wants to get rid of it.

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He's trying to figure out a solution.

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Our country was founded. The framers actually planned on

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this country being run on nothing but porch duties and

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tariffs. So getting back to that and

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getting rid of this, you know, this unfair, you know, tariffing

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1 sided relationship. I think it's really important,

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George. I think this means that, you

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know, of course the trade war could continue because rates are

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falling. But I, you know, I think this is

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important. I think we had to have this kind

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of a strategy. If you don't want to get into a

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kinetic event, you have to use economic solutions.

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Well, you know, it just came out not too long ago, I think

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yesterday in the afternoon that President Trump is actually

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considering the leading Chinese these public company shares from

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the US exchanges. Ouch.

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And now you like you have the cumulative tariffs on on China.

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They're at 145%. I should keep it going.

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But you know, prior to April 2nd, the reciprocal tariffs

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there were the 10 year 10 year yield note was falling in a

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straight line lower, you know, and that's telling us like the

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trade war would continue. Rates were falling how it but

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however, this is something different guys.

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The trade, the basis trade unwound due to volatility.

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You know, gold, we like volatility.

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The 10 year note yield surged 65 basis points to 4.5%.

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I'm going to put up the chart like John did.

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This is, I mean, we're going to get into the gold part of this,

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but Trump knows what he's doing. I think he's the man like he we

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have to take on China. It's well overdue in order for

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our economy to flourish. We allow them to flourish and

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look what they're building, building a big army.

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They're they're second in GDP, right behind us.

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And we got it. We have to stop it in order for

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us to survive in this world. Yeah, I think this graph is

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like, if you haven't seen the the 10 year yield note right

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now, it's it's, you know, super high and people move into

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yields, you know, when they're they're scared of and they want

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to move out of the US dollar. So, you know, there's a lot of

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volatility and people not trusting in US currency right

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now, especially whilst these, you know, trade wars are going

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on. And you know what, Lance?

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You know why I think inflation maybe doesn't hit me as much as

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it hits you guys. I live in Los Angeles.

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They just they just want to nickel and dimers put up an in

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fact, they released another tax the other day.

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They raised taxes on us and no wonder why I never feel any re

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private the pump or these grocery stores.

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It's just like might. Might be time to to rethink that

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domicile residency is on the table.

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Many people are leaving California because the taxation

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is so excessive. People don't like the over

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politicized governor and how he seems to think that everybody

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except the people of California matter.

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You know, so you got, I guess you always have to look at that

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nowadays. Taxation is such an important

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part of any strategy when it comes to your finances.

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But, you know, Trump's made it clear that these interest rates

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are one of his top priorities. He wants to drive them down.

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He's talked about a 10% Max cap on credit cards, which could be

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a windfall for the American people.

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I do believe that the income tax is on the chopping block if he

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can figure out a way to pay the bills in this government.

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And, of course, he's also working on reducing the bills.

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You know, he posted, now, let's put this up.

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He said this would be a perfect time for Fed Chairman Jerome Cow

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to cut interest rates. He's always late, but he could

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now change his image quickly. Energy prices are down.

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Interest rates are down. Inflation is down.

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Even eggs are down 69% and jobs are up, all within two months.

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I don't know about 69% of eggs. I don't know if I'm buying that.

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A big win for America. Cut interest rates from him and

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stop playing politics. There's also a dialogue behind

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the scenes that he wants to nationalize the Federal Reserve,

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which I have always agreed with. It's a private institution

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currently controlled by a number of families.

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It's, you know, nothing federal about it, nothing reserve about

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it. I don't like the way they

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operate. I don't like the way they take

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the US dollar, print it, charge us full face value and then

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charge the interest on it. It's a Fiat currency.

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I'd love for us to get back to the gold and silver standard

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because, you know, on this show we believe in gold.

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So, you know, this is a big deal.

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And the bonds are crashing at a faster rate than any stock's

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thinking about. And they're supposed to be

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considered the safe havens. You know, this kind of says the

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opposite of that. Jonathan doesn't.

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It it really does. And you talk about, you know,

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going back on a gold standard or, you know, the bond market

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crashing and people looking for safe harbor.

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You can also throw in the mix, you know, Bitcoin because Larry,

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think of BlackRock said that the way we're going right now,

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especially with the US trade deficit, he could see the US

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dollar being completely replaced as the world reserve currency

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and actually replaced with Bitcoin.

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So maybe, you know, as radical as that seems, that could also

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be on the cards. And you know, and This is why

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Trump's paving the way for the fundamental pillars to be set up

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for assets like Bitcoin to be part of America's U.S.

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Treasury balance sheet. So we can be the capital of the

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world when it comes to digital assets.

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So, you know, as you know, I've been a big speaker of assets

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like gold as a safe harbor, but it looks.

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Yeah, you mentioned great interviews on Newsmax.

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You also wrote an article that's been really going viral on

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Newsmax. Maybe share that with the

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audience and filament you've been over.

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They've you've got a lot of stuff going on.

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Of course, many people want to hear what you have to say.

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I don't know if it started, maybe it started with the show

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Global Finance for wait a minute, That was the beginning.

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You're on Newsmax. I hope you told everybody that

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you could be seen here every Friday.

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I'm just. Saying, well, you know what?

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I'm I'm on this afternoon as well with Ed Henry, so I will

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make sure we we throw in the picnic the big.

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Global Finance Forum that you're on Friday.

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That's great what we do to grow together.

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We want to work together but share with the audience what's

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been going on because you've had a lot going on.

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Yeah. No, obviously with Block Trust

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IRA that launched where people can invest in cryptos with us,

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with our managed strategies. It's really been, you know, just

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making the news and, and really just honestly, guys, just just

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taking off. So, you know, people want to

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know how the crypto market and Trump's tariffs, like is there

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any correlation? How's the market reacting to

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this? And obviously, you know,

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tariffs, tariffs, tariffs, that's what everyone wants to

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talk about, right? And it's the powder keg that if

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you're, if you're a trader, a futures trader and you get up

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and go to the bathroom, you'll, you'll, you'll come back, watch

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your positions. You could have missed something

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because one minute the market was up the other day, then it

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was a reversal and then it spiked right back up again.

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So, you know, people are watching these markets and they

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they've got questions. People are still asking why do

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we have these tariffs, right? You know, how's it affecting the

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market? What would be the long case

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scenario if we kept tariffs in play?

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If we fix these tariffs, what comes next?

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So it's really just been a, a discussion with a lot of

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financial reporters that are looking for kind of the inside

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track from a financial guy like myself off on to see where this

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markets going and really how block trust IRA is also being

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capitalizing on this. Because a lot of the times when

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you see this market volatility, there's two things happening.

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One is the retail investors are getting chewed up to pieces and

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they're scared to open up their statements.

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And then obviously there's people like us that that see

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this volatility and can make people's retirement money on

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volatility. So volatility and risk

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necessarily doesn't have to be a bad thing.

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It's how you manage that risk and look at that volatility.

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Now we're not out the woods yet, right?

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But I think like George mentioned earlier, you know,

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when it comes to China, everyone seems to be bending the knee and

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coming back to the table and and talking shop with President

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Trump when it comes to tariffs. But I still think we have a long

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way to go with what's happening in China, right?

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Are they going to play ball? Are they going to stick this out

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to the very end, as they said? And what's their next play?

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Would they then try to devalue the yuan, which they probably

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would. They probably try to devalue

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their own currency at that point if they wanted to play play

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hardball with us and make their consumer goods even even cheaper

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to buy, which means that if their currency is devalued, they

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would be putting their money elsewhere besides the dollar,

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which actually would be very positive for assets like gold

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and assets like Bitcoin. So there's definitely a few

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branches that split off left and right with with these tariffs

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right now. And again, if you're a trader

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and you're playing the futures market, you literally don't have

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time to get up and and move your eyes from the screen because

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it's it's the difference from making millions or losing

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millions. You know, and I think you just

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nailed it, although I will tell you this from insiders we have

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at the NFSC, which that's the new federal state of China.

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They're the anti CCP group. They say that a lot of Chinese

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economy is smoke and mirrors. So a Deval of the wand could

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really put them even further shaky ground.

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I think we're going to see that that some of what they're doing

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is bravado. I think more of that's going to

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come out. That's my prediction.

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I've heard a lot of not good things about the real estate

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market, the the commercial real estate market and residential in

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China. We know about some of it, but

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it's far worse than anybody thinks.

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They've got some real financial issues.

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That isn't the picture they portray to the public, but

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inside, behind the scenes, that is the discussions.

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And they're worried about this much more than say, the US is.

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Go ahead. Well, no, it's funny you should

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say that. I I took a poll on one of my

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guilty pleasures that I read, which is the Daily Mail, which

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is like a British tabloid. And I was.

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I like the Daily Mail. Yeah, we love the Daily Mail and

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I was reading an article about China, you know, you know, and

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the reciprocal tariffs, etcetera.

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But they had a box and inside the box was a questionnaire,

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live questionnaire polling. And it said, do you think

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China's bluffing with these charges that they want to to do

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to America or they're going to like, you know, bend the knee or

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you're not sure? And I put their bluffing.

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So I'm on the same kind of mindset.

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I think you're hold on, hold on. Listen.

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I got to add something to this real quick and I need you guys

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to see it. So we all know that the Chinese

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Jean is fell to lower like since 2007 right now sort of taking

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hit. But this is what's going to

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happen. Let me just show this.

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Oh, wait, one second, One second, guys.

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Here we go. Slap Jesus, he's got that

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nickname for a reason. Slap Jesus doesn't mess around.

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Get him out of here. No coach.

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In the shadows of the neck. You know, I think I think that

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it probably is is kind of a, you know, a, a real world, yeah.

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A real world position on what my I.

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Didn't get to finish my story, so let me tell you quickly.

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No, no, love it. But the poll was, are they

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bluffing? Do they mean business or not?

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Sure. And I said they're bluffing.

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But it was only 33% of a poll of over 10 people said they're

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bluffing. Everyone else was actually of

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the mindset that no, they're, they can, they can stick it to

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us. So it's interesting how, how you

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know, people like you and I, Lance and George, like we, you

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know, we think it's maybe smoke and mirrors, but the consensus

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of the general public, I got outvoted and people were very

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concerned about that. So just goes to show you you.

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Know general opinion. I think the general public

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relates the the need for China through them, through their

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purchases on Temu, Alibaba, Aliexpress, of course, all the

00:18:44
Chinese goods that are all over Amazon.

00:18:46
And they've become very reliant on that.

00:18:49
You know, it's, it's like the mother's milk.

00:18:50
They just can't get off the Chinese tit.

00:18:52
And I think when you look at it from that perspective, you have

00:18:54
to think to yourself, you know, what is the bigger picture?

00:18:58
And for us, we go to our sources, the most accurate

00:19:01
sources we've had on whether it's Chinese military action,

00:19:04
Chinese infiltration has always been the NFSC.

00:19:07
That group, they're a lot. They really have a big presence

00:19:09
over on Getter. We know them personally.

00:19:12
So my information is coming from an actual source.

00:19:14
It's not speculation. They've told me all along that

00:19:16
China has some very complex issues within their financial,

00:19:21
you know, government that people don't know about.

00:19:25
There's, there's lots of liquidity issues and all other

00:19:27
things. And all it could take is maybe

00:19:29
that smallest push. Donald Trump's not playing.

00:19:32
A lot of people talked about this market move.

00:19:34
I think, you know, this 90 day pause had to do with the 10 year

00:19:37
treasury. George, you and I talked about

00:19:39
this on the crypto Power Hour. Let's face it, the bond market,

00:19:43
I don't fully understand it, even myself at times.

00:19:45
It's really tricky. And you know, right now he's

00:19:47
talking about the fact that it looks really beautiful.

00:19:49
It wasn't an interest rate driven rate move.

00:19:52
I think it's more than that. I think it's a bunch a much

00:19:54
bigger strategy, but he's talking about this basis trading

00:19:58
unwinding. You know, Trump knew the $800

00:20:00
billion basis trade would send the 10 year to a 5% if he did

00:20:05
not intervene. And I think he's concerned with

00:20:07
that. Of course, as a result of what

00:20:09
he did, we've now seen a a move there.

00:20:12
So what do you think? Was this more than just if

00:20:15
tariffs? Was there a real strategy behind

00:20:17
the scenes? George and then Jonathan?

00:20:21
At first when he, when I, when he first said he suspended it, I

00:20:24
was kind of mad. I was like, man, that's a sign

00:20:27
of weakness because that, you know, it was the first thought I

00:20:29
was like, but after thinking about it and then looking I, I,

00:20:33
I, it Trump's, it's called the art of the deal.

00:20:36
It's 5D chess. And he, he wants, that's what

00:20:39
he's trying to do with the bond markets.

00:20:40
He's, he's trying to get the interest rates lower.

00:20:42
Let me put up the graph for everybody.

00:20:45
But he's basically confirmed that, you know, the reason he's

00:20:49
doing this because of the bond market.

00:20:51
And another thing, like I'm going to say Trump has an ego

00:20:55
and he doesn't want to see the stock market tank, even though I

00:21:00
don't think he's really paying attention to the stock market.

00:21:02
He's really paying attention to the bond market.

00:21:04
And it's, you know, if we read if they re buy the bonds or it's

00:21:08
more money for the US. So I don't know, Jonathan, what

00:21:10
what's your take? You're you're the financial guru

00:21:13
here. Yeah, well, the, the checkmate

00:21:15
play here that he's already laid out the chess board here ages

00:21:18
ago for this is to have the Federal Reserve intervene,

00:21:23
right, and goal to slash interest rates so we can

00:21:26
refinance all of our trade deficit, which is $36 trillion

00:21:30
and growing. Because if we don't address

00:21:32
that, there is no future value in the US dollar.

00:21:35
So this ultimately big squeeze that we are seeing is, is a lead

00:21:40
up to crash the markets to have the the Fed Reserve step in so

00:21:45
we can refinance that debt, which would be the ultimate

00:21:48
checkmate move and would go down in history as one of the best

00:21:51
economic plays we've ever seen by any president.

00:21:54
So this is a a dangerous game of chess.

00:21:56
But ultimately that's that's the final move that he's looking

00:21:59
for. But I gotta add this for you

00:22:00
though. Like you know what?

00:22:02
You know, the US it's, it's volatile, and the US dollar has

00:22:05
been declining. However, central banks and

00:22:08
foreign investors are buying up even more gold.

00:22:11
Here's a chart. I know Johnson likes this one.

00:22:13
Yeah. I think George.

00:22:16
Yeah, of course, the result of basis trading collapse, that

00:22:19
safe haven demand, it's been quickly funneled into gold.

00:22:22
I know we had a dip recently. Now we're back up another $200,

00:22:26
nearly hitting that all time high, I think.

00:22:28
I don't know if we encroached it, went over it.

00:22:29
I didn't get a chance to check the chart, but this is we're

00:22:32
talking about central banks and foreign investors are continuing

00:22:35
to accumulate, of course, gold strong safe haven.

00:22:40
That demand is surging, you know, and this is going to

00:22:43
happen more and more as we see volatility.

00:22:45
Let's talk about you're the gold expert on the show.

00:22:48
It's not George and I Let's go into why gold prices are posting

00:22:51
these strong gains and where this is heading.

00:22:54
Jonathan. Yeah, absolutely.

00:22:56
Well, First off, people see the tariffs, the instability, the

00:23:01
fear sets in the retail market, you know heads to higher ground

00:23:05
from the floodwaters and and that asset for them for safety

00:23:08
is, is the yellow metal itself. So whether people are putting it

00:23:12
in their Iras or 401 KS, holding something physical that retains

00:23:16
its value whilst the dollar stands there on shaky legs makes

00:23:19
a lot of sense to the smart money out there.

00:23:22
When you look at the recent dip in the price of silver and gold,

00:23:26
that was just, it's merely a lot of these fund managers actually

00:23:29
liquidating gold positions and covering some margins that they

00:23:33
had exposures to as the market dropped.

00:23:35
So gold essentially played its role as a rainy, a rainy fund, a

00:23:40
rainy fund, a little stash to put away that they can liquidate

00:23:44
and cover their position. So I think the future looks

00:23:47
really bright for gold. I think just a couple months ago

00:23:50
you were asking me, which I've never really done before because

00:23:53
I never like to be put on the spot, Where do you see the price

00:23:56
of gold going? And I believe I was mentioning

00:24:00
like 3200 thirty $300.00. I believe I said by the end of

00:24:07
the quarter or by summertime, I'd have to go back and have a

00:24:10
look. So we're, we're we're getting

00:24:12
close 3173 as I as I speak to you today.

00:24:16
So you know, if I said 3200, I'm, I'm I'm, I'm pretty,

00:24:20
pretty, pretty close. I'll take.

00:24:22
No, I've got to tell you, you're usually spot on.

00:24:24
And I got to tell you on on the Global Finance Forum show, I've

00:24:28
got to make it clear, sometimes you have to put the proverbial

00:24:31
balls on the line. We're going to do that over and

00:24:33
over again for our our viewers, watchers and listeners because

00:24:36
of course, at the end of the day, this isn't financial

00:24:39
advice, but we want to educate you.

00:24:40
But I also want experts like yourself to give them the

00:24:43
opportunity at least for a projection.

00:24:45
Doesn't mean that I'm telling anybody to run out and do it.

00:24:47
Talk to your financial advisors, talk to the experts over Genesis

00:24:51
Gold Group. Head over there and have a

00:24:53
discussion with them about just investing your IRA.

00:24:56
I've always believed in diversification.

00:24:58
It's not because Genesis Gold Group is a sponsor of this show.

00:25:00
To hell with that. My point is that diversification

00:25:03
is a safety net. And as you get older, you have

00:25:06
to think, think about how do you protect yourself from any really

00:25:09
heavy downside risk? Doesn't matter what your

00:25:12
portfolio is. We want you to be in crypto

00:25:13
because it's generational wealth.

00:25:15
We want you to be in gold and silver because it's a hard,

00:25:17
tangible asset you can hold onto.

00:25:19
And I'm not telling you not to expose yourself to the stock

00:25:21
market. But all of that takes a level of

00:25:23
expertise. And that's why Jonathan Rose is

00:25:25
here with us. That's why we have him and why

00:25:27
he's part of this show. Yeah, please.

00:25:30
You know, I love him for sponsoring the big, big show.

00:25:32
I love him for sponsoring this show.

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But really what it comes down to is we're trying to provide a

00:25:36
service for you guys. So when Jonathan, you know you

00:25:38
went out on a limb, are you still on the weight of 7030 for

00:25:42
portfolio silver to gold or has any of that changed in the last

00:25:45
couple of days or weeks? No, I'm still long term.

00:25:48
You know, this isn't something I'm liquidating tomorrow, next

00:25:51
year. You know, this is something I

00:25:53
will hold on to, you know, five years, you know, possibly 7, you

00:25:57
know, unless there's a time I need these reserve monies

00:26:01
liquidated and moved elsewhere. But you know, my position hasn't

00:26:04
changed. You know, gold's great.

00:26:06
You know, I think silver's the new gold that will make itself,

00:26:11
you know, I think pushed to the front here when that happens,

00:26:14
I'm not exactly sure, But I think under Trump's term, I

00:26:18
think we're going to have some very positive gains for silver.

00:26:22
And when you just look at the market as a whole, it's just

00:26:25
really a powder keg ready to kind of explode on us, right?

00:26:29
So gold and silver's never, ever going to go out of fashion.

00:26:34
And, and when you're, you know, looking at world events, whether

00:26:37
it's domestically or internationally, gold's always

00:26:40
going to have a pivotal role in a portfolio.

00:26:43
It's, it's, it's really important to, to be diverse.

00:26:46
I always say we don't have a crystal ball, but we've got a

00:26:49
pretty good road map, right? And and I think you mentioned

00:26:52
earlier about auto loans, defaulting credit card, credit

00:26:56
cards defaulting at a high rate. When you look at Social

00:26:59
Security, Medicare debt, when you look at all the problems

00:27:04
that we're facing in the future, it's like rolling a big boulder

00:27:08
up a hill. And you want to make sure that,

00:27:11
you know, we have that insurance, that protection

00:27:13
that's going to protect us against all that volatility.

00:27:16
And that's always going to make assets like gold and silver a

00:27:20
real a real winner. And if you haven't done so

00:27:23
already, now is the time I would say get, get an education 11

00:27:26
trend I have noticed is we've probably been speaking to a lot

00:27:30
more financial advisors from brokerage companies who have

00:27:33
actually called in for their clients.

00:27:35
And you know, a lot of these brokerage companies don't sell

00:27:37
gold or they'll do ETFs. And a good financial advisor or

00:27:41
planner, if they're recommending gold, they will recommend the

00:27:44
physical stuff. Not, not the paper, not the

00:27:47
paper gold, not gold mining stocks, no doubt electronically

00:27:50
traded funds. But so that's been very

00:27:52
interesting to see with the tariff wars that the financial

00:27:55
advisors and these aren't run-of-the-mill financial

00:27:58
advisors. These are financial advisors

00:28:00
that had maybe 20 year relationships with their clients

00:28:04
and they're like family members to them or they are family to

00:28:07
them. So even even FAS have been

00:28:10
calling us and and asking us for assistance in.

00:28:13
You know what I think is interesting?

00:28:15
I think the persona of gold and silver, we've seen a lot of, you

00:28:19
know, music industry artists, you know, rappers and otherwise,

00:28:23
and other people boasting about their ownership of gold and

00:28:26
silver, meaning that they'll actually hold up bars online,

00:28:30
Even some big influencers. And, you know, people over on

00:28:33
Twitch where they're showing they've got actual gold in their

00:28:37
hand and actual silver bars in their hand.

00:28:39
I think that that really even the trend there is positive for

00:28:42
gold and silver because these people are saying, hey, look,

00:28:45
I'm diversifying because I, I want to make sure I've got

00:28:47
something in my hand just in case everything goes FUBAR At

00:28:50
the end of the day, You have to think about the possibilities of

00:28:53
not having something like that. And everything does go belly up.

00:28:56
You know, listen, financial markets are volatile and at the

00:29:00
end of the day, you have to think that through before you

00:29:01
make that move. All right, listen, when we come

00:29:04
back, we're going to finish this story up, talk about how a lot

00:29:07
of people, I don't agree with them, are saying Trump blinked

00:29:09
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Exactly, except except I'm a lighter eater.

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George is going to want a full meal when he gets there.

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He's going to want a full meal. George is a food connoisseur

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compared to me anymore. I do like to eat, but you know.

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Yeah, but you like to eat good food.

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I appreciate the fact that you focus on also the quality of

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what you eat. Dude, we've, it's been like that

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since we were kids, you know? Yeah, a lot of people actually

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don't know what good food is, believe it or not.

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Not not the same, but I think you.

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Have to. You have to be in a family that

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went to the doctor, was doing some hormone stuff and it's just

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interesting what the impact of that is.

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As you get older, you got to pay attention.

00:35:09
I like this, this news. I don't agree with a lot of the,

00:35:11
a lot of experts are saying that President Trump blinked in the

00:35:14
global trade war, don't agree with it.

00:35:15
They're also saying Trump can't beat the bond market.

00:35:18
I'm not sure that's right, George.

00:35:20
I don't know either, because I think this is exactly what Trump

00:35:24
wanted to do. I don't.

00:35:25
Trump doesn't care. Let me put the graphic up later

00:35:28
so we can see Trump doesn't care about the stock market.

00:35:31
I think he's made it pretty clear it's not about the stock

00:35:34
market. It's about, you know, getting

00:35:36
the Fed pal, the lowered interest rate, but also like,

00:35:39
you know, with the bond market. And he knows what exactly what

00:35:43
he's doing, I mean. Well, look what it did to gold

00:35:45
here with this 24 hour Spot gold chart you put up.

00:35:49
I mean it had an immediate impact.

00:35:50
It went up, you know, just instantly we'd seen a small dip,

00:35:53
but you know, it's high. I think it was one 3188.

00:35:56
It's creeping back up right against it at 3187.

00:36:00
I think it's going to breakthrough.

00:36:01
There's a lot of support at this level.

00:36:03
You can see by the chart. There's not there's the

00:36:05
resistance is dropping and the support at those levels is

00:36:08
continuing to grow. These gold futures, you know,

00:36:11
they have a strong overall near term technical advantage in my

00:36:15
opinion. I think the next upside

00:36:18
objective is probably 3002 O1 to maybe 3002 O3.

00:36:23
That's what I see next. And once it breaks through

00:36:25
there, I think 3150 is right around the corner, George. 3150.

00:36:31
No, I'm sorry, 3250. Oh, OK, because I was going to

00:36:34
say 3250. I think it's going to go 33

00:36:36
pretty soon. Watch.

00:36:38
I well, you know, Jonathan's predicting 33.

00:36:40
And by the way, guys, we just wanted to tell you Jonathan has

00:36:42
an interview on Newsmax. So he was tight on time today.

00:36:45
You know, he is being pulled in more and more.

00:36:47
And I think it's because of the Global Finance Forum.

00:36:49
George, it is. I think he's, yeah.

00:36:51
What it is, why what are you talking about #1 show bro just.

00:36:56
Going in on the bus because I've never been defeated in a I'll

00:37:00
stop now. Keep your hands up.

00:37:02
Exactly. But so, man, I lost my train of

00:37:06
thought there. Oh, but you know, Lance, I might

00:37:09
have to. I think we both said like what

00:37:12
the goal will be at the end of December.

00:37:13
And I think we both picked 35. I'm going to have to change

00:37:16
that. I think it's going to be higher,

00:37:17
man. I'm thinking I'm going to say

00:37:22
38. Wow.

00:37:24
Yeah, I think it's going to go. That's a.

00:37:26
Bold prediction, but I don't want to push against you because

00:37:28
I own gold, so I want to see it go up.

00:37:30
What I think is really interesting here, whoa, is that

00:37:33
I think these dips are opportunities to buy George.

00:37:35
Time out. It's not I own gold.

00:37:37
It's we own gold, OK? Yeah, exactly.

00:37:40
All right. I just want to clarify that

00:37:41
everybody, because. You know, at the end of the day,

00:37:43
you know, right now, Silver's on a dip.

00:37:45
Some people have kind of been, you know, talking to this silver

00:37:48
prices a wild ride. They've been volatile.

00:37:51
But to me this volatility is an opportunity to buy some.

00:37:54
I still see silver by the end of the year moving way up from

00:37:58
where it's at now. There is a shortage.

00:38:00
I don't think the market is, you know, really read that shortage

00:38:04
into the pricing currently. I think it's going to get worse.

00:38:07
That EV battery technology from Samsung, they have contracts now

00:38:11
with two major manufacturers. So I think we're going to see

00:38:16
silver, that's 1K of silver per EV that's needed.

00:38:20
And until they figure out a substitution for that, I think

00:38:22
this is where this is going. And there's recession fears and

00:38:26
a slowing global economy. I think, I think we're they

00:38:30
think there's going to be sapping demand.

00:38:32
I think it's going to be the exact opposite.

00:38:33
I think all the institutions, all the industry will stockpile

00:38:37
if there's any kind of a pullback.

00:38:39
Yeah, listen, Silver look, it's we always say this, I always say

00:38:44
this, you say this from throughout history, gold and

00:38:48
silver is always hold held value.

00:38:51
You can't go wrong with it. So I mean, it's secure and if

00:38:56
you want security, you pick that.

00:38:59
If you want volatility, go buy some stocks, but definitely

00:39:02
buying a dip. And I just want to bring

00:39:04
something up, Lance, because you know, people are talking about

00:39:07
like Trump did this, you know, he's he was manipulating the

00:39:11
market inside of trading, blah. Blah.

00:39:13
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I want to tell you just one

00:39:17
little reason. Before he announced he was

00:39:20
holding off the tariffs, he put a post on True Social telling

00:39:24
everybody to buy right now. Yeah, that's not.

00:39:28
He told the he told the world, yeah.

00:39:30
Everybody, yeah. So I mean, he's got 90 million

00:39:33
followers, I think on Truth and I don't know how many on, I

00:39:36
mean, on Truth Social. What has he got?

00:39:37
It doesn't matter. So the numbers are colossal.

00:39:40
That wasn't some private message.

00:39:41
Group OK, but as soon as he put that up everybody took

00:39:44
screenshots and shared it so it just it went everywhere so

00:39:49
there's no there he said it buy buy now buy him the tip.

00:39:53
Yeah, buy the dip. There is no nefarious things

00:39:55
going on. That's just the way the left

00:39:57
wants to spin it to make you nervous.

00:40:00
I mean, it's so you seen like the last few days, the stocks

00:40:03
went down and they went up and now they're back down.

00:40:07
It's just people playing the market.

00:40:09
But watch the bonds. No doubt.

00:40:12
Watch the bonds. Well, let's switch gears and

00:40:14
let's talk about Trump's new 125% and growing tariff.

00:40:18
Lot of people think this is going to increase China's BRICS

00:40:21
trade. These import tariffs.

00:40:23
We know these have been leveraged.

00:40:25
It's art of the deal. This is April 9th.

00:40:28
We're talking about that date. The move comes out to China,

00:40:30
raise its tariff on US goods by an additional 84%.

00:40:33
Understanding that you already didn't understand, There was a

00:40:35
major trade deficit between US and the United States.

00:40:37
It was growing. In fact, China was also cracking

00:40:40
us for tariffs and we weren't doing the same to them.

00:40:43
Even an equal reciprocal playing field, it would have been

00:40:46
necessary to move tariffs. But there's much more than this

00:40:48
and that I think these moves are unprecedented.

00:40:50
I think there's a lot of US tariffs that were necessary, but

00:40:53
we're also strategic or 77 countries came to the table.

00:40:58
And those are the countries that John, that Donald Trump of

00:41:00
course said, I'm going to wait, I'm going to hold these tariffs

00:41:03
in abatement until you guys come to the table.

00:41:05
He doesn't, you know, if you think about it, if he's going to

00:41:07
meet with 77 countries, you can imagine how many meetings that

00:41:10
is. He's probably going to have to,

00:41:12
you know, maybe move a little over that around the table.

00:41:14
But look. Hold on this.

00:41:16
Is big numbers here. I want to let's talk about

00:41:18
tariffs because the UAE and the EU who agree to launch free

00:41:22
trade negotiations, right? There's a lot going on here.

00:41:26
Then you have Canada says it will drop tariffs tomorrow if

00:41:29
U.S. President Trump drops his.

00:41:31
Now check this out. So China wants to play with us,

00:41:33
right? You know, China and the European

00:41:36
Union is in talks to abolish EU tariffs on Chinese electrical

00:41:39
vehicles. So he wants to negotiate with

00:41:43
them. When it comes to us, he don't

00:41:45
want it. He wants to try to play tough.

00:41:47
Xi Jinping, you ain't going to win, Tony.

00:41:50
All right for now. And you know what they're,

00:41:52
they're kind of the salvo of, of tariffs.

00:41:54
What they're waving around is that the United States is not

00:41:56
China's, although a lot of people think it is.

00:41:58
We're not China's primary trading partner. the US is

00:42:02
actually third in place before the Asian, you know, ASEAN,

00:42:05
which is of course, is the Asian Union and the European Union.

00:42:09
Those numbers are higher than ours.

00:42:10
The United States, for example, that ASEAN group, that's 982.3

00:42:17
billion in trade, the European Union's 700 and 85.8.

00:42:21
And then here comes the US at 668.3 with Latin America at 518

00:42:25
1/2. So there a lot of people are

00:42:27
thinking that somehow China is going to find the extra support

00:42:29
in these other countries. I disagree because what China is

00:42:33
trying to do with this trade deficit and the reciprocal

00:42:36
tariffs that are much higher than ours is to of course impact

00:42:40
the US as an impact the US dollar.

00:42:42
They've got a much bigger strategy.

00:42:44
This is a Mao style strategy. I think that this had to happen.

00:42:48
And I think that at the end of the day, they think they're

00:42:50
going to find the market somewhere else.

00:42:52
We'll go ahead. That's just going to strengthen

00:42:53
the US dollar in the long run because we'll move all the

00:42:55
manufacturing back to the United States.

00:42:57
And once that happens, I don't think we're going to go back to

00:43:01
the Chinese tit. I think we're going to focus on

00:43:03
what it takes to make America great again.

00:43:05
And this is part of that big global game plan, 5D chess.

00:43:09
It's not checkers, George. It is 5D chess.

00:43:13
I mean, I think we're going to be going like 6D chess soon,

00:43:15
could be there already. I mean, no doubt.

00:43:19
All right. I was looking up something

00:43:21
interesting. But listen, China, you're not

00:43:24
going to win. I'm going to say this politely

00:43:26
as I can. You guys are used to bowing,

00:43:29
right? So just bow down right now.

00:43:30
I mean, I don't understand how like the EU want to make free

00:43:36
trade deals with them, but they don't want to do it at us.

00:43:38
That just shows everybody and China wants to do it vice versa.

00:43:41
That just shows that they want to keep taking advantage of us.

00:43:44
They've been taking advantage of the United States of America.

00:43:46
Well, no more. We're not going to allow that to

00:43:48
happen. And I hope to God, I pray to

00:43:51
God, that our Congress can actually put some law in where

00:43:56
it keeps the tariffs like this, that if any country tries to

00:44:00
raise tariffs or make the trade, you know, take away the deal

00:44:04
that we reciprocate because enough is enough.

00:44:08
Because let's face it, we didn't have a strong leader the last

00:44:11
four years and they took advantage.

00:44:13
So God forbid that ever happens again.

00:44:15
God forbid. Please know, I hope you people

00:44:17
got smart now. But in case it does, we have

00:44:20
security measures in place. It needs to be done.

00:44:23
All right, let's, let's move it up a little bit.

00:44:25
Let's talk about Bitcoin. Before Jonathan was on the the

00:44:27
show, he mentioned that Larry thinks that the Bitcoin is going

00:44:30
to become the global currency. I do not agree with that.

00:44:32
I would have told Jonathan I didn't if we got into this

00:44:34
story. I don't think it's the coin that

00:44:37
people think it is. I don't think it's going to be

00:44:39
long term, not that I don't think it's part of the

00:44:40
blockchain and it's part of the decentralized finance community

00:44:44
and I don't think it's going away anytime soon, but I think

00:44:47
it's on an antiquated network. I think long term people should

00:44:51
be looking at diversification. So also Michael Saylor, he also

00:44:55
is saying the same thing. I disagree.

00:44:57
I think if any coin is going to become the number one part of

00:44:59
the blockchain, I believe it's XRP.

00:45:01
Now George and I hold both. We hold both Bitcoin and XRP

00:45:04
beneficially. I can't say that either one of

00:45:06
them should be any more important than the other.

00:45:09
When you look at the short term of the long term, I think that

00:45:12
the network that XRP is on, it's much more sophisticated.

00:45:15
They've got contracts X or 3300 or more, different governments,

00:45:19
agencies and corporations. You've seen the integration into

00:45:23
the SWIFT system, what's going on, and lots of other things.

00:45:26
The ETFs for XRP are starting to come online.

00:45:29
I think XRP is going to be, in my opinion, in the long term.

00:45:32
If I had to bet my money, I only had $1.00 to bet.

00:45:34
I would bet my whole dollar on XRP versus Bitcoin.

00:45:37
Maybe I'd find out the long way. I still believe in

00:45:39
diversification, let me say that.

00:45:41
But the Bitcoin did recover right now I think you know,

00:45:44
Thursday it you did see a pullback 79 change, so not

00:45:49
quite 80. No, it's at.

00:45:50
It's at 80. No, I just checked 79

00:45:54
something was was the chart as of.

00:45:56
Thursday was like that, but today, Friday, it went hit 80.

00:46:00
Yeah. Well, anyway, here's the deal.

00:46:01
My point is that those numbers I think are temporary.

00:46:04
I do think bitcoins going to rise again, but these I think

00:46:07
the overall gains are limited. I think it's by the fears of all

00:46:11
this rapidly escalating US China trade war.

00:46:14
There's a lot of uncertainty. Crypto prices always move in

00:46:17
lockstep with broader risk driven markets.

00:46:20
So the rallies Wednesday evening after Trump announced the tariff

00:46:24
exemptions. But Bitcoins lagging.

00:46:27
And I think there's a reason it's lagging.

00:46:28
You know, my thought is that people, it's still new, smaller

00:46:32
part of the market, the Bitcoin holder is prohibitively

00:46:34
expensive for the average investor.

00:46:37
I saw a lot of buying on the pullback, George, lots of XRP,

00:46:41
Ethereum, Solana, you know, Ondo, XLMXDCXCN, lots of buying

00:46:47
when they bottomed out right before Trump's announcements.

00:46:51
So I think at the same time, people are diversifying because

00:46:53
they're also worried about these big swings in Bitcoin.

00:46:56
We're way back from the 109 high.

00:47:00
Now we're below that, you know, set high 70s to low 80s, kind of

00:47:03
a price range. What do you think?

00:47:05
I think you're right. Look, Bitcoins, you know,

00:47:08
everything's been volatile, but you know, I think people,

00:47:11
especially new people, crypto, they see Bitcoin and they say,

00:47:14
wow, 8, whatever, let's just say 80.

00:47:16
I can't afford that because I think they, they, they, until

00:47:21
they fully understand how crypto works, they're thinking like the

00:47:23
way stock markets work. So, and I'll say it you, if you,

00:47:29
if you have $500 a $100, you can still buy Bitcoin and own it if

00:47:32
you want. You can buy any crypto and own

00:47:33
it. There's no like limit on that if

00:47:37
it's 90 a coin, you can own percentage of it.

00:47:40
That's how crypto works. But listen, all coins are what

00:47:45
Dodge coin dodge coin boosted by ETFI mean there's they rallied

00:47:51
what 6% after their fund manager 21 shares said it applied to a

00:47:55
list of exchange trade fund tracking the popular mean coin

00:47:58
in U.S. markets. I mean, look, anything's a goal

00:48:01
right now, but I will and I'll keep saying this even though

00:48:05
everything's dipped, even Bitcoin and all that, buying the

00:48:08
dip if you can. But what's to me, the short, one

00:48:11
of the few short things, you know, Solana, definitely XRP,

00:48:14
Solana, even the ADA, they're they're going to do good.

00:48:18
But besides those contracts you talking about and I hope I don't

00:48:22
know when are they going to start releasing a couple of

00:48:24
them. I don't know because again, I

00:48:26
don't think we have absolute final conclusion on the SECI

00:48:29
Don't think the final documentation is traded hands.

00:48:32
I know they they there's been a lot of outward verbal comments,

00:48:35
but I haven't seen the final, you know, this is over with and

00:48:37
here's the final document. But you know, the courts move

00:48:39
slowly and I think they're being hesitant.

00:48:41
They don't want to over jump the gun and then find out, oh, wait

00:48:43
a minute, you shouldn't have done that.

00:48:44
We're not done yet, you know, so I think there's a little

00:48:47
hesitation on the side of ripple.

00:48:48
I don't blame them. But you hold on, the short thing

00:48:51
is like bank banking institutions want to deal with

00:48:54
XRP and that's a lot because of their security and and measures

00:48:58
and stuff. Well, I tell you this, the

00:49:00
Cardano founder which we mentioned, which is ADA Charles

00:49:03
Hoskinson, just says he thinks Bitcoin could be 250 by the

00:49:06
end of the year. He's talking about improving

00:49:08
market conditions. A bunch of stuff up to 50. 1000

00:49:11
a coin by the end of the year. That's what he's saying.

00:49:14
So that's that's kind of a big jump.

00:49:16
He's talking about all the legislative clarity.

00:49:18
Yeah, exactly. Especially around stable goings

00:49:21
could hold major corporations into the crypto space. the US is

00:49:25
moving forward with two major bills, the Genius Act in the

00:49:28
Senate and the Stable Act in the in the House, both of which

00:49:30
would clear committee stages. According to Hoskinson, these

00:49:33
developments may encourage the Magnificent 7 tech giants to

00:49:36
adopt dollar backed digital tokens.

00:49:39
He's talked about near term uncertainty.

00:49:42
He's talking about maybe there'll be a minor stall in the

00:49:44
crypto market, but he doesn't see that over the next 12

00:49:46
months. I agree with that.

00:49:48
I don't know if I agree with 250, but you're right,

00:49:51
there's a lot going on. And I think we have to talk

00:49:53
about even the increase in wallet holdings of XRPXRP is

00:49:57
moving rapidly. It's it's growing much stronger

00:50:01
by the minute. It's faced massive sell off

00:50:03
pressure recently. But that price decline didn't

00:50:05
dampen confidence. In fact the exact opposite.

00:50:08
Lots of people are now making sure they have some XRP holdings

00:50:14
in their wallets across the board now.

00:50:16
This is a big milestone despite XR PS, you know dip from over 2

00:50:20
to $2.10 to $1.60 this week. That was a big divergent that

00:50:25
went down there. Lots of people added to their

00:50:27
wallets and lots of new new short term, at least short term

00:50:31
for right now holders increase their wallet positions.

00:50:34
So I think there's a broader spectrum of XRP holders, which

00:50:36
is going to add stability and support for XRP.

00:50:40
The number of wallets with a non 0 balance of XRP is also

00:50:43
maintaining an upward trend, meaning that it used to be

00:50:46
wallets with more near 0 balances and now all of a sudden

00:50:49
they're showing holding balances in XRP and it seems like it's an

00:50:53
accumulation, not just let's buy a few.

00:50:56
You know, I think this is really interesting news, George.

00:51:00
It is. I love XRP, Lance, you said

00:51:05
250 and I'm thinking like my orcas here we come.

00:51:09
Is that what we're saying it I mean?

00:51:10
Yeah, my orca exactly. I mean, not my orcas.

00:51:13
You're using the border border guy's name.

00:51:15
It's my orca. I mean my orca, so you're like

00:51:18
you're saying like XRP basically what he's saying it, what he was

00:51:22
saying is XRP is going to outmaneuver Bitcoin.

00:51:26
I mean. There's a lot of potential for

00:51:29
XRP to take off. I mean, Bitcoin is clearly the

00:51:32
big number with that, with Hutchinson's thinking, 250

00:51:35
of Bitcoin. The point is XRP, when we start

00:51:37
talking about that, you know, a lot of people are predicting

00:51:41
that if Bitcoin moves into that hundred 150 territory, that

00:51:44
XRP could be in that hundreds of dollars very quickly.

00:51:48
We'll have to see. Of course, there's a lot more

00:51:50
XRP than there is Bitcoin. So it's not easy to predict

00:51:53
something where there's a lot more available in the market.

00:51:55
But the the consolidation of XRP by governments, by institutions

00:52:01
and the acceptance as as a cross-border and a possible

00:52:05
exchange token that bridges the gap.

00:52:07
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