THE BIG MIG SHOW
JANUARY 29, 2025
EPISODE 467 – 7PM
Ryan Samsel, a political activist and January 6 defendant, gained national attention not only for his role in the Capitol breach but also for allegations of mistreatment while in federal custody. Arrested and charged for his involvement in the January 6, 2021, events, Samsel was accused of initiating confrontations with law enforcement at the Capitol barricades.
While detained in the Bureau of Prisons (BOP) custody, Samsel reported being brutally beaten by guards, suffering severe injuries, including a broken nose, fractured orbital bone, and potential permanent damage to his vision
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Injustice. There's a number of reasons I
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all, you know, I'm a little bit of a legal Beagle.
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I've got four different paralegal degrees.
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I read the law as a hobby, as sick as that sounds.
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I'm always looking at new case law, whether it's Chevron or
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another case. I'm always looking at what's
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going on and what they're doing. That system, the Department of
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Justice, has been weaponized. It's been used against American
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citizens non-stop. The BOP has done things that are
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incredibly, you wouldn't believe it.
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You would think we were living in a third world country with a
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Stasi style Republic if you knew what was going on there.
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Tonight, you're going to get to hear it first hand from AJ
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Sixer. That was all over the media.
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They attacked him in so many different ways.
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His name is Ryan Samsel. Before we fire up, I want to
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talk to George. Well, of course, there's the
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thumbnail, a picture of Ryan. He, you know, he his pot, I
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guess the media. The big thing was that he had
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supposedly pushed through one of the metal barricades.
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That was the big hype that supposedly he was, he was
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supposed to face 20 or 25 years because he was such an extremist
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and blah, blah, blah. Just a bunch of more garbage.
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You know, the J6 committee destroyed evidence that's called
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Giglione Brady material. We're going to get into some of
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that tonight. This is the the first chance
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Ryan has really been able to come out in public and defend
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himself. He's going to get to tell you
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things tonight that he could never say.
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He's going to talk about the BLP.
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He's going to talk about Ray Epps.
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That's right, Ray, the Fed apps and he's going to talk about the
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DOJ and you're going to get to hear first hand, you know, and I
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want to make it clear it's not just Ryan Samsel.
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It's not just the J Sixers this these administrations and the
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DOJ and the BOP under these previous administrations have
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been doing this to lots of defendants.
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And I'm talking about pretrial even when they haven't even been
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found guilty yet. You're going to hear some
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terrible things tonight. You know, I just want to
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forewarn you that some of it's not very good and it it may be
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it may actually shock you, but George, let me just check in
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with George. He's been busting his ass down
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there that he's down there in West Palm Beach, FL, working on
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our new studio for the crypto power hour.
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George, man, how you doing are you are you tired today?
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I just got to ask that up front because I know you've been tired
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on a couple of shows. I'm.
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Not tired today. Today I was just doing like
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light stuff, you know, like the. The punch list.
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Sort of. Yeah, you need me come down with
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some blue tape and just start marking everything.
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No, please don't come down, Lance.
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Actually, you know what I'm you can come down for two days
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because I'm leaving tomorrow. I'll be back here Sunday too.
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No. No, no, I'm coming there when
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you're there so I can just bust your balls.
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That's what I do. Nope, because if you come down
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this time I'm you're working. Yeah, it's like the work last
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time you didn't work last time. Yeah, please, we.
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Don't call that work. Yeah, I know you didn't call it
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that, but you know, knowing the whole situation, what I had to
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go through, I think you'd be shocked at what I was doing.
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All right, look, let's get to it.
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So let's not leave Ryan backstage.
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He's here now. Or what?
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Yeah, well, let's, but let's bring him in for this.
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At the mood. Maybe.
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Maybe he's even having trouble slowly, but he just got out.
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Congratulations on that. Hold on.
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Bring a minute and we'll do this.
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Welcome to the big, big show, Ryan Sampson.
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What's up, bro? Another fellow brother patriot
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from New Jersey. What's up?
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Brian, man, it's got to feel good.
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Fresh air, good food, None of that bullshit where they leave
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the lights on or the guards are harassing you or you're, you're
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hearing the worst of the worst. We're going to dig into it
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tonight with you. But man, congratulations on the
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presidential part. And that's like the Holy Grail
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for anybody that's incarcerated, right?
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Yeah, it's, it's a rare thing, and it's even rarer that it gets
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handed out to you in the beginning of an administration.
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They're usually handed out at the end.
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So it's that's the blessing. Yeah, no doubt, man.
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And I'm happy for you. And I want to say this, for any
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J Sixers out there, you guys know, you can always count on
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the big maybe we got your backs. And that goes for all the other
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people that are incarcerated. You know, I feel like there's so
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many guys sitting in federal prisons.
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I'm not going to say they're all innocent.
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I'm not going to say that even, you know, the majority of them
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innocent. But I think the excessive
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sentences done by the sentencing guidelines and the way the DOJ,
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because let's face it, any mathematician, I was just
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talking about this last night. Any mathematician would tell you
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it's impossible to get a 96 or 98% conviction rate without
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cheating. And I can tell you that the DOG
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cheats over and over and over and over again in so many cases
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across the United States and they never faced any
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consequences. Not only do the judges never
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face any consequences, none of the prosecutors face
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consequences because of a thing that maybe most people aren't
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familiar with called absolute immunity and qualified immunity.
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It's one of the things that allows them to, I believe,
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operate unconstitutionally non constant, crucially and above
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the law. They don't act like the
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supremacy clause exists. They don't talk about Title 2 41
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or Title 242 or miss prisons of a felony or anything else.
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It's what they do. I'm not saying there are some
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good judges. I'm not saying there are some
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good prosecutors. I'm saying that a lot of them
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are scumbags. All right, let's go ahead and
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set the mood. I found this.
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You know, we always want to take care of you guys.
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You know, emotionally, physically, mentally.
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Sometimes I see something about health.
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You know, George and I was looking at health.
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We're looking at sleep. We're talking about, you know,
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what you should be eating, what you shouldn't be eating because,
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you know, when you're in our business, sometimes you end up
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sitting a lot. George hasn't been sitting in
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the last couple of weeks, but you sit around, you're doing the
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research, you're on a computer, and you're just not as active as
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you would think you're being because it takes a lot of work
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to create these shows. Here's Joe Rogan talking about
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taking care of your sleep and how important it is with one of
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his guests. What is the effect of say, if
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you have three nights a week where you sleep 8 hours and then
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the next night 2 hours and then the next night 8 hours, How much
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of A bump or how much of A dip does that two hours give?
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You in your overall health. It's bad, It's bad.
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Today, both you and I have produced cancer cells in our
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body. What prevents those cancer cells
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from becoming the disease that we call cancer is, in part,
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these natural killer cells. And after one night of four
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hours of sleep, that is a remarkable state of immune
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deficiency. And that's one of the reasons
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why insufficient sleep predicts cancer.
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In the spring. When we lose an hour of sleep,
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we see a subsequent 24% increase in heart attacks.
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What in the fall, in the autumn, when we gain an hour of sleep,
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there's a 21% decrease in heart attacks.
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So it's bi directional that's. How?
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Fragile and vulnerable your body is to even just the smallest
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perturbation of sleep. One hour, 1 hour is.
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That's insane. I wonder if they're ever going
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to get rid of the time change crap.
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I mean, you know, I don't like, you know, daylight savings time.
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I've never really liked it. I don't like the darkness.
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You know, I'd rather just have my natural clock set itself.
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I don't like them screwing with my rhythm.
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Sometimes I feel like they've done it intentionally.
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I always wonder what the real intent was behind it.
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Why did they do it? You know, how does it benefit?
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I know it was supposed to make sense.
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I don't think it makes any sense.
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And I think many Americans don't like it either, you know?
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All right, So Ryan, let's dig in here a little bit.
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I just want to show, you know, I, I, I created a bio.
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I went over and looked at you. I didn't get a bio from you.
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So I looked around. I didn't like what was on
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Wikipedia. As usual, bunch of trash at the
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very top of it. But you know, you're a political
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activist. You were January 6th defendant.
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You gained a lot of national attention for your roles on what
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they call the Capitol breach. Lot of allegations, a lot of
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different things that happened. Of course that barricade is what
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they try to link that you. The cause and effect of what
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happened is somehow you were responsible for much more than
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what really went on. And that was always the
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narrative because they wanted to hit you guys with excessive
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sentences because the Fed's surrection is what we call it on
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this show. We know that the Feds had fully
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infiltrated the crowd. And if anybody knows that you
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know it first hand. I guess what I would like to
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start with is let's just go over when you heard that number 122
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events, you heard Donald Trump might have been shot.
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I don't know how much the information was passing through.
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When you guys heard that, there had to be that moment of like,
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oh God, they didn't kill him, did they?
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Did you hear it? Were you watching TV?
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It was ATV room on fire when they said they tried to assassin
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and what happened? Are you?
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You're talking about just the recent one.
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Yeah. Butler, PA.
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Believe it or not, when I was getting my hair cut on the block
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and one of the guys come running up to me and he said, Ryan, you
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ain't going to believe what happened.
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They just tried to assassinate Trump.
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And there's a misconception that the people in prison don't like
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Trump. Let me tell you something.
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They love Trump. They consider him a boss.
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They think that, you know, this is what what, what the African
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Americans would say, the black community, they would say
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Trump's the blackest president that we had because he's now a
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felon. And I guess they could relate to
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that. When when that happened, there
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was a lot of people that were sick that were, were pissed off.
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In fact, there was a fight that broke out on the block That one
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one of the kids was cheering some skinny liberal looks like
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he ate vegetables and only vegetable like he never ate a
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piece of meat in his life. You know, he has some wise
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comments and he end up getting, you know, handled because the,
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the things he was saying, people, people respect Trump and
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people actually love Trump and, and, and, you know, it was
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pretty discouraging. But you know, when he when he
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sit up and raises his first, when we got a chance to watch
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the whole block was cheering. You know, a lot of people have,
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Kim Kardashian did that first step act and Trump passed it and
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it gave people a little more hope than what they had when it
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comes to the sentencing that gives them up to 65% of good
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time if earned. So a lot of people in behind
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bars and behind the wall, we call they, they love Trump.
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So people are pretty pissed off about that.
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You know, that doesn't surprise me, but the course the media
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wants to paint that as if there's this big wide, you know,
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MAGA only style acceptance of Trump that somehow Maga's
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racist. They, they try to, you know,
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again, because the left's tool and George, you and I have
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talked about this so many times, division and chaos are their
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main tools. They have to keep us divided.
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They don't want 300 + 1 Americans unified against them
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because they know that the consequences of that wouldn't be
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good for the deep state. It isn't.
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It isn't that kind of thing. And we never call for violence
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on this show. But at the end of the day,
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you're talking about unifying a country.
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And that's why Maggot's never been racist.
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But but, but of course, the media says that.
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They say that the people in prison don't like Trump.
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But George, your thoughts? Well, you have people that
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pretend to be patriots, pretend to be MAGA, that are that act
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racist, that that cause division and chaos.
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Some of them have shows. I'm not going to say their
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names. We all know who they.
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Are. But there there are out there,
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and they do try to make us look bad.
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Because you can't, and it wouldn't be surprised if they
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were paid. You can't be for one person and
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then all of a sudden now go against them for no, no apparent
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reason. It's only because you're getting
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paid. But like, it's like you said in
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the beginning, like the J Sixers, Thank God you guys are
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all finally out. We've been everybody's been
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fighting for you guys. And you said something, Ryan,
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that, you know, usually presidents pardon people at the
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end. Well, if Trump didn't pardon you
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guys in the beginning, it wouldn't have been good for him
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because that was one of his things.
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He's going to pardon you guys from the get go because it would
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make no sense to pardon you guys at the end because you you're
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doing enough waste of time with your lives over nothing.
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Yeah, and the J6 committee committed so many crimes against
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American citizens that I believe they committed treason and
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sedition. And it's clear that even Joe
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Biden recognize what they did with these blanket pre emptive
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pardons that he gave so many people that had committed crimes
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against American citizens. Doesn't matter what's Doctor
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Fauci or Liz Cheney or General Miley, there are people that
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should have faced the consequences for the actions.
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Maybe the states will still do something about it.
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But I I want to start with Ryan, just because I want to set the
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tone here with the audience. And then we're going to get into
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your case itself. We'll talk about the BOPI want
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to talk about that that when the guards assaulted you and what
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we'll I want to lead up to the let's start with January 6th
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itself. I know you had a lot of, you
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know, some interaction with Ray Epps on this show.
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We have always talked about Ray Epps as because we know that he
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got such a sweetheart deal on that misdemeanor that he got
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that. We know that that was because he
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was he was he was working with them.
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They had to do something because everybody had gone up in arms
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and said, well, how can you do this to Ryan Sam so on.
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How can you do this to the other J Sixers?
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But now Ray Epps, who was clearly vocal, calling for
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violence, calling for actions, inciting the mob, he was doing
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all that, then all of a sudden nothing happens to him.
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So they had to kind of throw out a sacrificial lamb case.
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It was a phony case. Tell me about to the audience
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because I think this is the first time you're probably able
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to talk about this completely honestly.
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Let's talk about Ray Epps. Tell me your take on it, the
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interaction that day and what you think his plan was as you
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because you got a chance to observe him up close.
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Yeah, sure. So let me give you a little
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background that through my discovery that I still not
00:17:40
allowed to have that the government refused to whenever I
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got a chance to see discovery, which is like it for people that
00:17:46
don't know it's, it's your whole case and everything surrounding
00:17:49
it. It's usually put on a disk.
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So I would only be able to go through that with with my
00:17:56
attorney. I wasn't able to go through it
00:17:57
by myself because they said there was sensitive material in
00:18:00
there. So the sensitive material is Ray
00:18:04
UPS actually took a plane down to from Arizona to Washington,
00:18:10
DC 3 three days or four days prior to January 6.
00:18:16
He was in restricted areas. Remember it was COVID back then
00:18:19
and he and his interview with the FBI that I got a chance to
00:18:23
listen to. He was in restricted government
00:18:26
buildings. I I don't know if he was there
00:18:29
meeting somebody, but he, he was definitely there the night
00:18:35
before he was out there telling keep on on January 5th, you
00:18:40
know, we got to go into the building.
00:18:41
We got to do this. So during his interview with the
00:18:45
FBI, that was after January 6th, I heard everything when the FBI,
00:18:49
the FBI was first sweet to him when they, when they were when
00:18:53
they were talking to him, they said, you know, tell us and they
00:18:56
were to lead them the whole time.
00:18:57
They're like, you were just kidding that time, right?
00:18:59
You know, you're joking. His lawyer, no coincidence, was
00:19:03
a former FBI agent and worked out of the Arizona field office.
00:19:09
And Ray OPS was just pretty much saying, yeah, yeah, I was
00:19:12
joking. And right after that, he was
00:19:16
taken off the watch list. Now when I got arrested on
00:19:20
January 29th, the FBI had an armored video go out front of my
00:19:24
house and about 20 agents, local and federal kicked in my door,
00:19:29
ripped the sheetrock off my walls, tore my bed apart and
00:19:33
caused about $15 and and and damage had the homeowners
00:19:37
insurance wanting to cover when I was when I was getting
00:19:43
dressed, it gave me a chance to get dressed.
00:19:45
When I was getting dressed, the one guy who was part of the
00:19:48
terrorist task force came down and said, hey, we're taking you
00:19:52
to a station. When we take you to a station,
00:19:54
there's going to be a gentleman when I, when I ask you what he
00:19:59
says in your ear, we're, we're going to call him the voice of
00:20:01
reason. Now, Grant, I didn't know what
00:20:03
the hell was he talking about because I'm like, what?
00:20:06
Whisper in my ear? I, I don't remember what he's
00:20:09
talking about. I, I had no idea because
00:20:10
there's, I had so many interactions that day.
00:20:12
I didn't know what he was talking about until I seen the
00:20:14
picture. So I'm in the beginning.
00:20:19
I thought the FBI was. Well, Biden, I, I, I didn't
00:20:24
think too much of them, you know, I, I, I, I felt they were
00:20:26
the cops who made sure that the cops did their job, you know,
00:20:30
and when I'm driving there, the guys that, that, that he says
00:20:36
here, I know you chew mint tobacco.
00:20:38
And I'm like, man, how the hell does he know that?
00:20:41
And he gives me a can of chill and he says, remember the voice
00:20:44
of reason. And so when we get to the police
00:20:47
station, they sit me down and they miss they, they, they
00:20:51
misquoted everything I said and, and pass it on to the New York
00:20:54
Times. But that was later during the
00:20:57
interview when he shows me things, he says, what did this
00:20:59
guy say to you right here? And I, at that point in time, I
00:21:04
look and I stop and I didn't, really didn't want to say
00:21:07
nothing, but I, I felt pressured.
00:21:09
And I said he just told me to calm down.
00:21:10
And then he said it again. He said, that's the voice of
00:21:12
reason, right? And I see how you could say
00:21:16
that. So they started getting further
00:21:18
into the conversation of questioning and that's when I
00:21:23
stopped and I said, hey, look, I don't want to go any farther
00:21:25
without a lawyer. I don't want to incriminate
00:21:26
myself. And he said, look, Ryan, we're
00:21:28
not looking to indict you. Don't worry about it.
00:21:31
You can get your way out of this.
00:21:33
When he said that, look, I come from a Polish and Italian
00:21:35
family. And when he said that I, you
00:21:37
know, being being a rat in an Italian family, it's just not a
00:21:41
good thing. And I said, wait a minute.
00:21:42
Not that I even had anything that I thought the rat on.
00:21:45
So I don't want a 5K1 plea deal, which is a cooperation plea deal
00:21:49
because in my neighborhood it's just you're not going to get any
00:21:53
respect from anybody. So I said I prefer to talk to a
00:21:57
lawyer. I get, I get transferred to FTC
00:22:01
Philadelphia, they give me a motorcade and they drive me the
00:22:07
next day straight to DC through red lights each.
00:22:13
The state police would what when we would travel through the
00:22:15
state would would, you know, lead to convoy of the kind of we
00:22:21
get to the DCJI get put on a block with the rest of the guys,
00:22:24
you know, and about a week and I would say about a week or maybe
00:22:28
10 days in, they come down without even a COVID test and
00:22:32
say, oh, you tested positive for COVID.
00:22:35
We got to take you to a block. When I, when I go to this block
00:22:37
that nobody was on, I mean, it was an empty old block.
00:22:42
And I, I said, man, this, this doesn't feel right.
00:22:44
Something's wrong. Here comes an officer.
00:22:47
An officer says, Hey, do me a favor, write down the whole
00:22:50
situation that happened that day.
00:22:53
And I, I thought that was odd because that's, that that's
00:22:55
never happened before. And I said, I don't know this
00:22:58
guy. I'm not writing nothing down.
00:23:00
Two days later, I get put back onto the block with the Janus
00:23:04
Sixers. That day, an officer walks on a
00:23:08
block that says, and he makes a big announcement in front of
00:23:11
everybody. Everybody can testify this I'm
00:23:14
here to raise the bar. I have orders from above to
00:23:17
raise the bar. You guys don't want to
00:23:19
cooperate. This is what's going to happen.
00:23:22
He took Jake Lang, went to Jake Lang.
00:23:25
So I put Jake Lang in, saw one, which was off the camera.
00:23:28
I believe Jake was sprayed with Mace.
00:23:31
I, I, I don't really know because I couldn't see.
00:23:33
Then they came to my cell, they handcuffed me, brought me all
00:23:37
the way back to the the end cell, then took the handcuffs
00:23:40
off me and put me left me later. I, I, I when the camera's
00:23:47
spinning, I, I've seen the cops walking along the door because I
00:23:52
was looking out the window and a cop came up to my cell and he
00:23:55
says, Ryan, put your hands behind your back.
00:23:57
He zip tied me turn me around. When I turn around, I, I seen a
00:24:02
white flash boom. That's, oh, I remember, I woke
00:24:07
up, I would say about four hours later and I remember I, I, I
00:24:11
yorned myself, I, I peed myself and I was sore all over.
00:24:17
So I shuffled my hands to the front and I saw the zip ties off
00:24:21
me using the, the chair. They have a metal chair like a
00:24:25
stool. And then I, I kind of saw the
00:24:27
zip ties off me the next day, Dominic Pizzulo, one of the
00:24:34
Proud Boys to come up and say, holy shit, dude, your face is a
00:24:37
mess now. There was no mirror in the cell,
00:24:39
so I, I couldn't tell, but I could feel my face was messed
00:24:41
up. I couldn't close my jaw.
00:24:43
And when I was pitying, it was blood coming out.
00:24:47
So Dominic says, right, you need medical attention.
00:24:51
I didn't want to make a big stink about it.
00:24:53
So I I tried to hide myself. Well when they do body count on
00:24:56
Monday, this assault happened on a Friday.
00:24:58
On Monday when the Sergeant came around you see my face called
00:25:03
Nawan and I was immediately placed in ICU and come to find
00:25:07
out I had acute kidney damage, broken nose, dislocate jaw,
00:25:11
broken orbital and zygomatic bone along with bruising on my
00:25:18
back with boot marks. I get out of the hospital they
00:25:22
take me to Virginia. Now they, they put my case under
00:25:25
seal and I'm still not indicted. Now, now we're over the 30 day
00:25:29
mark, which the the government only has 30 days to indict you.
00:25:33
Hey, let me stop you just for a minute, Ryan.
00:25:36
How many guards do you think beat you?
00:25:39
Do you have any concept? Do you have any names so we can
00:25:41
drop their Dave's on here and put them on, Put some sunlight
00:25:44
on them? I don't because they're wearing
00:25:45
Gator masks and they have, they have Gator mask goggles, you
00:25:50
know, and I, I, I don't know. Has your attorney demanded the
00:25:55
surveillance video from the security cameras?
00:25:57
As far as I know he she did not and I and I fired her
00:26:02
immediately after and I end up going through 7 attorneys
00:26:05
through that whole ordeal at that point has.
00:26:08
Anybody demanded that a special master be appointed or anybody
00:26:12
else to investigate your claims and to demand that that video be
00:26:16
provided? No, I, I do know that when the
00:26:21
video surveillance, so I, I, I remember this, I remember
00:26:25
hearing on the cops radio them saying go and like they were
00:26:30
communicating because like you can hear the, the chatter
00:26:33
because they had the radios up. I believe that somebody in
00:26:36
control was telling them because we, we calculated that the
00:26:39
camera rotated one full rotation per minute.
00:26:44
It's a pretty slow moving camera.
00:26:45
What I think they're doing is, is running behind the camera and
00:26:50
and that's a technique that they got, you know, that these people
00:26:52
know the insurance and outs of the things so that they they say
00:26:54
that I was in the cell by myself, but everybody on the
00:26:57
block seeing the guards running onto the block, I mean of.
00:27:01
Course. And of course, the boot marks.
00:27:03
You guys probably weren't wearing boots.
00:27:04
I'm not sure of the issue. Now let me make this clear to
00:27:06
the audience. Lance, hold on.
00:27:08
This isn't in ADC County Jail. Yes.
00:27:12
Yeah. Now let me add this for the
00:27:14
audience. Let me let me just make a point
00:27:16
here. Remember, he hasn't even been
00:27:18
indicted yet. He was arrested for a warrant
00:27:22
and hasn't gotten a full indictment.
00:27:24
So you're talking about an individual that's innocent at
00:27:26
this point based on our laws, innocent until proven guilty as
00:27:30
how the laws work in our system. So here's a guy that isn't even
00:27:33
convicted yet and now raise the bar.
00:27:36
Now think about what that means when a guard comes into a unit,
00:27:40
A commander, a Lieutenant or anybody else and says, we've
00:27:43
been told to raise the bar on you guys.
00:27:46
That is threat, bribery and coercion.
00:27:51
It's misuse and malfeasance of a government official.
00:27:53
And there's so many other crimes you have no idea.
00:27:56
So here's a guy that basically at this point is innocent
00:27:58
because he's hasn't even charged yet and he's getting beaten by
00:28:02
federal BOP guards. How many guards you think you
00:28:06
guys this this is the kind of stuff you hear about supposedly
00:28:08
only happens to Russia? Go ahead, George.
00:28:09
I didn't mean to step on. You guards, you think it was
00:28:11
that beat you up? I'm going to guess and say about
00:28:15
3 or 4. Doug Jensen said that he's seen
00:28:17
4 guards and so did 1. Jessica Watkins.
00:28:22
They said they seen 4 guards. I I was knocked out unconscious
00:28:26
so I I don't want to give a misleading fact because in case.
00:28:31
They zip tied you while they beat you up.
00:28:34
Yeah, I was hip tied behind my back.
00:28:35
And were you the only one that got beaten that night, or were
00:28:38
there others? That night I was the only one,
00:28:40
but there were other Jan Sixers that got assaulted.
00:28:45
I. Got to tell you if if they were
00:28:47
to pull shit like that with me when I was able to get the phone
00:28:50
I would have called some people and I don't care.
00:28:53
Hit go guard by guard, find them and beat them.
00:28:56
Give them a fucking beaten in the streets.
00:28:58
Well, it it, you know, the problem is the thing that they
00:29:01
and I agree with you, George, I agree with what you're saying.
00:29:03
But, but, but here's what's awful about it.
00:29:05
The awful part about it is that the people on the outside hear
00:29:10
all this garbage from the scumbag mainstream media, right?
00:29:13
They have to paint a narrative that that Ryan Samsel's a bad
00:29:16
guy and he deserved it. And they're going to even claim
00:29:19
that, oh, he, well, he smarted it off to the guards or he tried
00:29:22
to assault a guard or they'll, they'll come up with all this
00:29:24
bullshit because that's the problem.
00:29:26
There is no accountability and consequences.
00:29:28
These people inside the BLP are straight up criminals.
00:29:32
Many of them are total gangsters.
00:29:34
They will violate prisoners rights at a whim.
00:29:38
And it doesn't matter whether it's sleep deprivation, it
00:29:41
doesn't matter if it's intentionally feeding people
00:29:43
inferior food and nutrition. I mean, let's face it, if you
00:29:46
talk to some guys that were housed in the federal system, 20
00:29:50
years later, you can see that their mental capacity has been
00:29:53
reduced because the nutrition provided in the facilities.
00:29:56
They'll tell you, oh, it's calorically sufficient.
00:29:59
Remember the, the, the punishment isn't being beaten
00:30:03
up. It isn't violating people's
00:30:05
rights while they're in jail. The punishment is being
00:30:07
sentenced to being away from from your family, your lifes
00:30:10
impacted. You now have a, you know, felony
00:30:13
of a felony. Is it in your history?
00:30:15
Which makes it difficult to get a job.
00:30:17
You know, it's so at the end of the day, this kind of stuff.
00:30:20
Absolutely. And every one of these guards
00:30:22
should face the most severe consequences.
00:30:24
And yeah, of course, me. I think part of their
00:30:26
consequences should be getting an equal beat down.
00:30:28
You know, I think it's an eye for an eye.
00:30:30
I'm, I'm a biblical guy. I believe an eye for an eye is
00:30:33
necessary in these situations. But go ahead, George.
00:30:35
I have AI have a question for you, Ryan.
00:30:37
How many? Yeah, on the day you got
00:30:38
arrested for this, how many days was it until you got indicted?
00:30:44
13 months later. 13 months later.
00:30:46
So Lance, correct me if I'm wrong, so can he now like try to
00:30:52
find a lawyer and actually go after these bastards and sue
00:30:54
him? 100% here.
00:30:56
Here's the deal. You might have a because you
00:30:58
might have a chance because you have a different Justice
00:31:00
Department coming. In well, but but here's the
00:31:01
problem you've got and I agree with you George and that's what
00:31:04
should happen but the but the complication comes that you've
00:31:07
got to get this evidence right because they're going to claim
00:31:09
that Ryan provoked them and he did this and blah blah blah
00:31:13
they're going to lie and he just crazy they.
00:31:14
Still have to indict you. The speedy trial rights in this
00:31:18
particular situation were extremely violated.
00:31:21
You have a right to a speedy trial.
00:31:23
Getting arrested is supposed to be accompanied by the indictment
00:31:26
in the federal system. So what happens is they would
00:31:29
have done a sealed grand jury on Ryan.
00:31:30
The process would be they've got Ryan in photos.
00:31:33
We'll make something up. Ryan, you know, broke one of the
00:31:36
podiums in the Capitol rotund. They said he broke federal
00:31:39
property and a federal property he was trespassing.
00:31:42
Let's not even go to and do it in a real case.
00:31:43
We'll just make something up. What happens is they go to the
00:31:45
grand jury and they present the evidence in a SEAL grand jury.
00:31:49
Because at the end of the day, in my opinion, one of the
00:31:51
biggest flaws in our criminal justice system is that the grand
00:31:54
jury testimony doesn't come in your discovery.
00:31:57
You never get it. So you don't know what kind of
00:31:59
bullshit or lies they told the grand jury.
00:32:01
You don't know if they lied about the presentation of the
00:32:04
confidential informants or the witnesses or the video was
00:32:07
altered. You have no idea.
00:32:09
And they don't give it to you. And they claim that they can't
00:32:11
give it to you because you know there's confidential informants
00:32:14
in it. They make up all this crap.
00:32:15
I think everybody should get their grand jury testimony.
00:32:17
Let me ask you, Ryan, you never got your grand jury testimony
00:32:20
correct. No.
00:32:21
Okay, and that's the same answer that I would bet if we asked 100
00:32:25
federal inmates in federal prison, I'd love to go into some
00:32:28
of the Super Maxes and talk to these guys to hear the real
00:32:31
stories of what happened with their cases.
00:32:33
But here's the point, what what they do is they don't give you
00:32:36
that. Now what should have happened,
00:32:37
The indictment's already been issued.
00:32:39
It's a sealed indictment. Then they unwrap the indictment
00:32:42
the morning of when they go to arrest Ryan.
00:32:44
Of course, in his case, they probably wanted to have press
00:32:47
there and they wanted to hype it up.
00:32:48
And then they're going after, I think about what they did with
00:32:50
him, the the fact that they had him in this convoy with state
00:32:54
troopers and everything else. They wanted it to seem high
00:32:57
profile, right? Because they got the Suburbans,
00:32:59
they got everybody following each other.
00:33:01
They're making it seem like they're moving bin Laden around
00:33:03
the state. That's part of the picture
00:33:05
because if if he forces them into a jury trial, they want to
00:33:08
make sure they've already compromised the jury trial.
00:33:11
And when it comes to Ryan's discovery, what they call
00:33:14
discovery in the federal prison system, when you get your
00:33:16
discovery, they always call it. They don't call it, but this is
00:33:19
what smart people call it. Well curated, a well curated
00:33:24
discoveries discovery that's been gone through and all the
00:33:28
beneficial material, the stuff that helps Ryan form a defence,
00:33:32
the Giglio and Brady material, the exculpatory evidence going
00:33:35
to help him fight his case. All that stuff's cleaned out of
00:33:38
there. So anybody that says the DOJ
00:33:40
fights fair, no, they're a bunch of dirty low lifes.
00:33:43
OK. And that's my opinion.
00:33:44
And I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll go right to the the wire with it
00:33:47
with any inmate I talk to, I can dialogue with him.
00:33:49
And I bet you I can go look at his case and say, well, this
00:33:51
isn't right, this isn't right, this isn't right.
00:33:53
They should have done this because I think there's no
00:33:55
reason they shouldn't give people the that material.
00:33:57
But Ryan, let's go back to you. So you get beat up.
00:34:00
Now, how long were you in medical healing from these
00:34:02
injuries? And in that time, did they try
00:34:04
to get you to sign a release or make a statement that they could
00:34:08
use against you? You're saying, well, you know,
00:34:10
you had this coming, Ryan. Did they say anything to you
00:34:12
like that when you were in medical?
00:34:13
Yeah, so I I want the medical and the guards with inside I
00:34:20
guess knew who the guards were because they those guards who
00:34:24
did that were not allowed around me.
00:34:27
So what they did then was they they were put me in different
00:34:30
prisons and I was getting moved every 30 days when I would show
00:34:33
up to the the jail. I was going right to the medical
00:34:36
healing and, and what when I finally got to Warsaw, now my
00:34:44
lawyer did file at Warsaw, VA and won the guard.
00:34:48
I was handcuffed and he came in there and he put his hand on me
00:34:52
around my neck and he he, he, he just went crazy.
00:34:57
A far left, he ended up getting fired for this.
00:35:00
He quit or he fought. He got fired.
00:35:04
I want to say his last name was Taylor at Warsaw, VA.
00:35:07
When he punched me, they immediately fired him and they
00:35:12
took me to the hospital. And that's when the government
00:35:15
said, hey, look, we don't want to indict him at this point.
00:35:20
Let's work a deal out. Let's get him to cooperate.
00:35:23
And at that point, like, even if a person, I, I never had no
00:35:29
intentions to cooperate. But that's, I tell you right
00:35:32
now, that's not how you get somebody to cooperate because it
00:35:35
builds so much anger and frustration that you, you want
00:35:39
to take these people out, You know, legally, you, you, you
00:35:42
want to show the public the truth.
00:35:44
Because I'm not the only one that goes through this.
00:35:46
This is the gross treatment inside these places.
00:35:52
You know, it's disgusting. You're right.
00:35:55
The punishment wasn't the assaults.
00:35:57
I went through two assaults. That's not the punishment.
00:35:59
The punishment is the PTSD that, you know, I, I, I have dreams
00:36:05
that I'm that I got to return back to jail.
00:36:07
I only been out a week. I understand, but even in jail,
00:36:11
I have dreams of of the guard. Whenever I would hear a guard's
00:36:14
keys after that, I, I would immediately get this feeling
00:36:19
inside my stomach like, like, like I was on a roller coaster.
00:36:22
And it was a feeling of anticipation that people don't
00:36:27
pay attention to those small things.
00:36:28
You constantly think that you're going to get in trouble for
00:36:31
something and it, and it's a horrible way to live, you know,
00:36:36
and all this was for me not to go out and, and speak on Ray
00:36:40
Epps. And you know what?
00:36:42
That's, that's, that's what I want to do.
00:36:44
That's my goal. I, I, I want the Gen. 6
00:36:47
committee to ask me and I want to take a polygraph test,
00:36:51
although I know they're not an accurate.
00:36:52
I, I would be willing to take as many polygraph tests as they
00:36:56
want through as many different people.
00:36:59
They would all be conclusive. Did, did the same.
00:37:01
And I want him to take one and let's see who's telling the
00:37:04
truth. I want the FBI agents to take
00:37:06
one if the if. What is Ray?
00:37:08
Hold on. And then you go ahead, Joanne.
00:37:10
Hold on. Before we talk about Ray Epps,
00:37:11
we're going to take a break and when we come back, we're going
00:37:14
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nitty gritty because I know Pocahontas would love to hear
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this about Epps. I know everybody would love to
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hear this about Epps because he because it's crazy how he just
00:42:47
gets to walk away on a with a not even a slap on a wrist.
00:42:51
What do you get like six months probation or something?
00:42:52
I don't even know but. Yeah, you got a misdemeanor.
00:42:55
The dude was up front telling people, you know what, I'm going
00:42:58
to let you tell us. So, you know, we're at the
00:43:03
Ellipse. We can't hear what Trump's
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saying. A big group breaks off and as
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we're walking down, because Trump said we're going to meet,
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I'm going to meet you at the Capitol.
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And we go down there, there's two, there's two barriers and
00:43:20
we're being funneled into it. What looks like a cul-de-sac.
00:43:22
They call it the peace monument. On the way there, I see this guy
00:43:26
on the corner saying the capital's this way.
00:43:29
He I don't believe that he ever even attended that the actual
00:43:33
rally. So I didn't know DC.
00:43:36
So I'm like, all right, well, I guess I'll go down the street
00:43:39
and I'll go to the capital. So I'm going down there.
00:43:42
When we get down there, I noticed the bike racks.
00:43:45
There was somebody there cutting off the zip ties.
00:43:49
So another kid comes up to me and he was like everybody at the
00:43:53
front We got, you know, we got to go up to the front.
00:43:55
So I opened up the, you know, I didn't have to, I just pushed
00:43:58
open the the bike rack. I walked up to the police
00:44:01
officer and I said, you know, bro, I said, look, we have a
00:44:04
right to be here, man, and I said the president told us that
00:44:06
he's going to go and talk right on that stage over there.
00:44:10
And he says back to F up. The president ain't coming
00:44:13
nowheres and I said what? So out of frustration, I pulled
00:44:18
the gate towards me. So when I did that, the
00:44:21
accomplished his hands up like this and he says, I'll knock you
00:44:24
to F out. And that's that's in the video.
00:44:26
If anybody wants to watch it, you could watch it and and you
00:44:29
know, people don't pay attention.
00:44:31
That's what he said. At that moment, I kind of turn
00:44:33
around, look behind me because I hear it.
00:44:35
Somebody with a rowdy voice saying, I'm a Marine, I was in
00:44:39
the Marines, don't worry, I'll handle this.
00:44:41
And he, I just was like, who the hell is saying that?
00:44:45
So when he came up to me, he whispers in my ear and says,
00:44:48
hey, dude, I got people with me. Don't pull.
00:44:51
Wait until I say and we push. And it wasn't that he was
00:44:56
whispering, it was that he was loud or that it was so loud down
00:44:59
there that he you know that he he was yelling at.
00:45:01
So my Co defendant, James Grant actually heard the same thing
00:45:04
that that later came out and he just posted on X.
00:45:08
So he rate UPS one of the one and as he said one and he got
00:45:13
the two on the left. Everybody pushed past the the
00:45:16
bike racks. I, I noticed an officer to my
00:45:20
right, I had fallen. I ran by, I picked her up.
00:45:23
I didn't want to, I didn't want to see her get, you know, I
00:45:25
walked on by an exceeding crowd because everybody's pushing
00:45:28
everybody's backs. So I see she dropped her beanie.
00:45:32
I picked the beanie up. I handed to her up at further at
00:45:35
the stage when I'm at this stage, Ray UPS came up to me.
00:45:39
He patted me on the back and he said, look, man, I want to tell
00:45:42
you that that was a good job. You're a good patriot.
00:45:44
And he asked to exchange phone numbers.
00:45:47
I never gave him my phone number and I I just told him my name.
00:45:50
I say, hey, man, you could just follow me on Instagram or
00:45:52
something like that. And that was that.
00:45:56
I noticed in all the pictures that I have, he was around me
00:46:01
and he approached me a couple times that day and he's always
00:46:04
in it within 10 to 15 feet. And I seen him there encouraging
00:46:10
people. Now you remember the kid, Josh
00:46:13
Black that got shot in the face while I was patching Josh Black
00:46:18
up. I was pouring powder on him.
00:46:19
I'm patching him up when the cop came over and grabbed Josh
00:46:24
around the neck. I put my arm around the cop and
00:46:26
I told the cop, I see, oh man, get the F off him.
00:46:28
And I heard Ray Epps in the background scream, He's one of
00:46:33
ours, not one of yours. And then I don't know when the,
00:46:37
the, the tone changed because I, I, I left not too long after
00:46:41
that. But I see all these videos of
00:46:43
him saying, you know, calm down. Where's the videos of him
00:46:49
telling everybody, push forward. We got to push forward.
00:46:52
We got to go into the capital because he sticks out like a
00:46:56
sore thumb. The guy's like 66 and he had,
00:46:59
and I'll never forget his voice to this day, I'll never forget
00:47:02
it. He has, he has like a Southern
00:47:03
drawl and I remember him screaming it.
00:47:07
We got to go into the capital. This is our country.
00:47:09
We got to go in there. It was odd.
00:47:13
And Troy Nells made a pretty good point when he questioned,
00:47:19
when he questioned the head of the FBI, Christopher Wray.
00:47:24
Rachel Janko was down there with me that day and she ended up
00:47:29
getting charged and the FBI wanted her to say that Ray EPS
00:47:35
whispered for me to calm down. Well when she refused to do that
00:47:40
they they end up charging her. So Troy Nell's question
00:47:44
Christopher, why was Rachel Janko charged but right up's
00:47:48
not? The very next day, Rachel Janko
00:47:51
was hit with additional charges after Christopher Ray was
00:47:55
berated on that now let. Me hold you for a minute there.
00:47:57
So just for the audience, so they understand this is standard
00:48:01
operating procedure in every criminal case.
00:48:03
When you don't cooperate, when you don't comply and and you
00:48:07
won't even go along with their lies, because I'm going to ask
00:48:10
you this in a minute, Ryan, what they do is called a superseding
00:48:13
indictment. And they use that as leverage.
00:48:16
So they go to Ryan and say, Ryan, if you cooperate, we're
00:48:20
going to help you out. We're going to give you a
00:48:21
sweetheart deal. But you have to admit that Ray
00:48:23
Epps told you to calm down and you're going to have to do it on
00:48:26
the stand and you're going to have to do it or you're going to
00:48:28
have to do it in this deposition we're going to have with you
00:48:30
tomorrow. If you don't do that, we're
00:48:32
going to supersede and diet you and you're going to get 50 or
00:48:34
100 years. Now, this is threat and coercion
00:48:37
and bribery by the government official.
00:48:39
They are not supposed to do that, but it happens in every
00:48:42
single case. The superseding indictment is
00:48:45
one of the biggest hammers the Department of Justice has on
00:48:48
people. You're already incarcerated.
00:48:49
You're already getting threatened.
00:48:50
In the case to Ryan, he's getting beat up.
00:48:52
They've deprived of him his rights.
00:48:54
He doesn't have a speedy trial. He was held for 13 months, which
00:48:57
is a violation of his speedy trial rights.
00:48:59
He got arrested with no indictment.
00:49:00
All there was was a warrant, I guess, for his arrest.
00:49:02
But that's not enough. You're supposed to have an
00:49:04
indictment, an indictment that's executed by a judge.
00:49:07
So in fact, even that arrest was flawed.
00:49:09
He's got so many errors in his case.
00:49:11
Now, Ryan, I'm going to ask you this.
00:49:12
Did Ray Epps ever once say to you, calm down?
00:49:16
Never, never. You heard that?
00:49:19
Repeat that for the audience. Did Ray Epps ever tell you or
00:49:22
anybody around you to calm down? Absolutely not.
00:49:26
Did he ever do anything other than incite the entire crowd to
00:49:29
try to get them intentionally to behave in a manner that would
00:49:32
have been considered threatening towards police officers, like
00:49:36
pushing away the barriers? Did he do anything besides that?
00:49:40
Yeah, he was. He was like, besides that, Yeah,
00:49:43
he was down there, yeah, motivating people.
00:49:46
So no, actually, no, he didn't do anything besides.
00:49:49
All he did was incite the crowd. You know he's going to capital
00:49:52
or it's, it's, it's Fed EPS. It's not Ray Epps.
00:49:55
Go ahead, George. I'm sorry.
00:49:56
Did he go into capital Ray EPS? Here's here's no, he did not go
00:50:01
into capital, but I I will tell you this, the FBI withheld this
00:50:05
because I got a chance to review a lot of his stuff.
00:50:09
He immediately call or text his nephew and said, hey, I
00:50:13
orchestrated to 1st breach that that later came out.
00:50:17
He he admitted to orchestrating it and then he didn't even leave
00:50:21
until next. And then he lied to, to Congress
00:50:24
underoath and said that he gave somebody aid and ran away at a
00:50:30
certain time and then they they later showed it.
00:50:33
None of that was true. He didn't do anything.
00:50:35
He was lying to Congress. And and and again for the
00:50:38
audience, how does this guy, how does Ray Epps get a misdemeanor?
00:50:42
You know that they were talking about if Ryan had gotten a
00:50:44
sentence. You were looking at how much
00:50:45
time Ryan 2025 years. In between 20 to 25 years.
00:50:49
Yeah, but Ray Epps, who did way more than Ryan, who clearly was
00:50:54
an operative within the crowd. At this point, there's many
00:50:57
questions. Buddy would did he gets a
00:50:59
sweetheart deal for a misdemeanor.
00:51:01
Wait. Well, meanwhile, look at a
00:51:03
grandma in 25 years. Well look at a grandma that
00:51:05
parade and got sent to prison. Yeah, well, well, look at.
00:51:09
Look at Ray UPS. He runs when the cop fell to the
00:51:11
ground he had no intent to to help her.
00:51:14
Why I stopped to pull her to safety.
00:51:16
Why he ran raped past her. She was throwing the ground and
00:51:19
he runs raped past her. Is that a video?
00:51:22
You pulling her to safety. Yeah, yeah, it's on video.
00:51:24
Yeah. And then when the cops came.
00:51:26
Can I ask you a question though, in your discovery, was that
00:51:28
video in your discovery of you helping that police officer?
00:51:31
No, they cut that part. They cut that out.
00:51:34
OK, wait a minute. That's what I'm talking about.
00:51:37
That's well curated discovery because they don't want to show
00:51:43
Ryan in a positive light. They don't want to show him
00:51:45
helping a police officer as on the ground or handing a hat or
00:51:49
maybe helping one of those other guys or stopping somebody from
00:51:51
doing. That's not the Ryan Sam still
00:51:53
they have to portray. They have to portray this ultra
00:51:56
violent extremist, right? That's the attempt.
00:51:59
You have to realize that that's right there.
00:52:01
That material they cut out of there, that's considered giggly
00:52:04
on Brady material. That's just culpatory evidence.
00:52:07
That's the evidence you would use.
00:52:08
It's not the inculpatory, it's the evidence that proves you to
00:52:10
be innocent. You can't form a defense and the
00:52:13
Constitution says that for you to form a defense, a fair
00:52:16
defense, you're the people provided all the evidence in
00:52:19
your case so that you can defend the indictment, You can defend
00:52:22
what the grand jury has determined on you.
00:52:24
You can defend yourself immediately.
00:52:27
Not only they beating up somebody that hasn't even been
00:52:30
indicted yet, not only they violating his rights, including
00:52:33
his speedy trial rights. Now they're curating the
00:52:35
evidence and now they're also threatening him, saying, well,
00:52:38
if you cooperate, we won't do this.
00:52:39
And they're threatening the people around him in the same
00:52:42
manner. Now, this is not exclusive to J
00:52:44
Sixers. This is your Department of
00:52:47
Injustice in full operation. This is your Bureau of Prisons
00:52:50
coordinating with them. Now, I'm going to tell you that
00:52:53
I don't believe it's the US Marshals in most cases that are
00:52:55
guilty of this. It's the prison guards, it's the
00:52:58
DOJ, it's the FBI. They'll bring you into hearings,
00:53:01
they'll bring you into meetings. You get threats.
00:53:03
They talk about indicting your family.
00:53:04
They talk about seizing more of your assets for people that have
00:53:07
houses and otherwise. They want to make sure that they
00:53:10
drain in their law fair against you, that they drain all your
00:53:13
resources and your money. Ryan, go from there.
00:53:16
Yeah, so you're right. I was actually indicted 8 times.
00:53:20
Every single interview and offer that I got, I will get it
00:53:24
immediately indicted right after.
00:53:28
Another superseding indictment. Yep, I got indicted so each.
00:53:31
Time you didn't accept the deal that they were forcing you and
00:53:33
you got another indictment. So see, that's how the system
00:53:36
works. You guys, You're hearing it from
00:53:37
the horse's mouth here. Ryan, in my opinion, has a
00:53:41
massive civil tort claim against the United States government.
00:53:44
And let me say this to you, This is what Pam Bondi and Cash Patel
00:53:49
need to get on top of because these guards, these prosecutors
00:53:53
in the DOJ, the judges, they all need to face criminal charges.
00:53:58
They're all responsible for what happened to Ryan Samsel.
00:54:00
All of them are guilty of it and they should all face criminal
00:54:03
charges. So to give you a heads up, So
00:54:06
what what the prosecutor was doing?
00:54:09
So they were leaking and misleading information to the
00:54:14
New York Times. So what would happen is the
00:54:17
prosecutor in my case, Karen Rocklin would call the New York
00:54:21
Times, they would smear my name and, and, and, and, and lie
00:54:25
because they said Ronnie Sampson has a warrant for a rape charge
00:54:29
out of New Jersey. And then it turned from a
00:54:32
warrant to an allegation to now it, it doesn't show.
00:54:38
First of all, if I've never been charged with rape, nor do I have
00:54:41
warrants to New Jersey, if I had warrants in New Jersey, I was
00:54:45
released out in New York, they would have come immediately and
00:54:47
pick me up because Trump doesn't have the pardon power over the
00:54:50
states. It's a lie.
00:54:53
And, and what they, they, what they'll do is they'll try to
00:54:55
smear names so much so now they'll try to weaponize the
00:54:58
inmates because when you're in prison, you know, somebody
00:55:01
Googles your name and says you're, you're, you're a sex
00:55:04
offender or something like that. Or you're, they even put that I
00:55:07
was cooperating. They said that a cooperating
00:55:10
witness with the FBI has rape charges.
00:55:14
Now they, they, they take that down.
00:55:16
Wikipedia changes its thing and they, they reword everything.
00:55:20
It, it people have to understand that the, the system, the core
00:55:25
of public opinion is by far more important than the court of law.
00:55:30
Because if you think that a juror, I would, I could have
00:55:32
never went to a jury trial. They would have convicted me.
00:55:35
They would have stoned me to death as soon as I walked in
00:55:37
there. The things they said, they said
00:55:39
I beat up my pregnant girlfriend.
00:55:40
I don't have kids and where the hell are my kids?
00:55:44
If I if I beat my pregnant girlfriend, where the hell are
00:55:46
my kids at? I mean I would have a 15.
00:55:50
Year old and let me stop once again, I want to say.
00:55:52
Listen, George, he said something I want to ask him.
00:55:54
You said you said something about pardoning powers with the
00:55:57
state. Would you?
00:55:59
Yeah, Trump doesn't have the power.
00:56:00
So if I had no. It's only federal.
00:56:02
Yeah, it's only. Federal, only federal.
00:56:03
So if I had these crazy phony warrants, I wouldn't have walked
00:56:08
up. They would have had to have held
00:56:09
me and New Jersey would have come pick me up.
00:56:11
Yeah, you would have been walking out the door and New
00:56:13
Jersey would have been there arresting you.
00:56:15
But that's the point. They didn't want you to be in a
00:56:18
position because they knew you were you.
00:56:20
You clearly weren't going to turn into a snitch.
00:56:22
You weren't going to cooperate because you didn't have any
00:56:24
reason to cooperate because you didn't believe you were guilty
00:56:26
of any of these actions. They were threatening you.
00:56:28
They, they, they did more than threaten you.
00:56:30
They bodily harmed you. They they committed massive
00:56:33
injuries. You now have incredible amounts
00:56:35
of PTSD, which I think is unbelievable that you should
00:56:38
have to suffer these consequences.
00:56:39
And then that prosecutor should be charged.
00:56:43
They're not supposed to leak information to the press and
00:56:46
they're sure as hell not supposed to slander and liable
00:56:49
you to the press with phony accusations.
00:56:51
Because there's no possible way for you to have a jury of your
00:56:54
peers that are independently going to look at Ryan Samsoul as
00:56:58
not guilty. You know, you know, innocent
00:57:01
till proven guilty. So you would have never gotten a
00:57:03
fair jury trial because now you're the pregnant girlfriend
00:57:06
beating scumbag who has multiple offenses all over the place.
00:57:10
And that's what it comes down to.
00:57:12
And that's intentional for, you know, for people that haven't
00:57:14
faced this, You have to realize this is not just Ryan.
00:57:19
Our Department of Justice is fully corrupted across the
00:57:23
country. They are cheating in nearly
00:57:25
every single criminal case they bring forward.
00:57:28
And I'll go on the record for that.
00:57:29
I'm sure somebody will say, oh, that's not true.
00:57:30
It is true. I can tell you this.
00:57:32
They even lie on the paperwork. I can tell you how they lie on
00:57:36
the paperwork when they they lie about the law.
00:57:38
When they file replies, they will twist the law, they will
00:57:41
change the judicial quotes, they will change the judicial
00:57:44
rulings. They will do all of it.
00:57:47
I haven't even gone public with all the information I've got on
00:57:49
them. I've got so much stuff that if
00:57:51
anybody wants to get serious about this, I I can probably
00:57:54
single handedly take down the entire DOJ, honestly, because
00:57:57
that's how much information I have on them because I believe
00:58:00
them to be fully corrupted. Because at the end of the day,
00:58:03
everybody gets an attaboy. All they want is convictions.
00:58:06
You can't get into a conviction rate of 96 or 98% legitimately.
00:58:10
It just wasn't possible because it doesn't happen in the state.
00:58:13
Let's face this, if Ryan was facing state consequences here,
00:58:17
the state prosecutors would have dropped the entire case after
00:58:19
this beating in jail. It would have been over with.
00:58:22
But they couldn't do that because the Fed surrection and
00:58:25
the J6 community wanted to fear monger.
00:58:28
They wanted to make sure American citizens couldn't
00:58:30
peacefully protest because they're afraid of them, because
00:58:33
they're afraid of unification. And I'd say to the entire
00:58:35
public, it's time to unify. This is a criminal justice
00:58:38
system that needs to be incarcerated.
00:58:41
And there are many people. I'm not saying there aren't some
00:58:43
good people. Let me emphasize there are some
00:58:45
good judges. There are some good prosecutors,
00:58:48
but again, if somebody wanted to do a clip of me, they would just
00:58:51
take me acting like everybody's a bad guy.
00:58:53
They're not all bad guys. But the problem is the system,
00:58:56
This protection of absolute immunity and qualified immunity,
00:59:00
it needs to go away. If you want the freaking job,
00:59:02
then take your chances. If you're going to be a scumbag,
00:59:05
face the consequences, Ryan. Go ahead, man.
00:59:08
Yeah, I, I agree. There's a lot of guys that I
00:59:11
that I came across in jail. And one guy, he was a alleged
00:59:18
mob guy. He was a white collar guy.
00:59:20
And when he didn't want to cooperate with the FBI, what the
00:59:23
FBI did to him, His name was Joey, Kate.
00:59:26
And I, I asked if I could release his name.
00:59:27
He said he was fine with it. The FBI took the messages and
00:59:33
handed it off to the mob thinking because they're so
00:59:36
blind to reality, they don't even live in reality.
00:59:39
They took, they took his text messages and, and, and did an
00:59:43
accidental release. And it went to all these
00:59:46
different mob guys to try to get this kid killed, to pressure him
00:59:50
in the turn. When I was in jail, they, they
00:59:55
would do things on purpose. So there was a a kid that got
00:59:57
locked up for BLM protest. There was 97 cells in solitary
01:00:03
confinement because I would have to be put in the hole.
01:00:05
After they would do a hit piece on me, they would put me in a
01:00:09
hole for my protection. Well, they would always put me
01:00:13
in the worst of the worst cells. So they thought the one time
01:00:15
we're going to put them in a cell, we're going to keep them
01:00:17
handcuffed and we're going to put them in a cell.
01:00:20
When I went to the cell, believe it or not, when we would listen
01:00:25
to the conservative radio, this young black kid, he totally,
01:00:28
after being in a hold with me for about two months, he was
01:00:33
totally disgusted with Joe Biden.
01:00:35
He he and he ended up becoming a huge conservative.
01:00:40
When he was released, he was writing me letters and he was
01:00:43
saying the same thing. Like, yeah, we, we have a, a
01:00:46
common enemy, right? We, we have to unify.
01:00:49
His name was Kushner McBride. And we do have to unify.
01:00:52
We, we all, whether you're Republican or Democrat or
01:00:56
independent, let me tell you something.
01:00:58
The Justice Department doesn't have a party and they will
01:01:01
prosecute you. They don't care.
01:01:04
They, they will, they will weaponize.
01:01:05
They will weaponize whatever side is strong they'll use.
01:01:09
And they want us divide it. I, I couldn't agree with you
01:01:11
more, Vance. And if we showed unity, they
01:01:14
wouldn't have a leg to stand on. They really wouldn't.
01:01:16
And and that's something that we need to outreach is, is unity.
01:01:21
So I agree with that a lot, Vince.
01:01:24
Well, you know, we need accountability and consequences
01:01:26
for all government agents that have violated the law and
01:01:29
especially in your case, what they did to you is criminal.
01:01:33
If any one of us, if George Valentin or myself had assaulted
01:01:36
an individual, had assaulted a congressional member or somebody
01:01:39
else like this or had assaulted somebody, we would be facing
01:01:42
criminal charges at the highest level.
01:01:44
And especially for somebody that hadn't even been indicted yet.
01:01:48
This is incredible. You should have been out on
01:01:50
bond, but they withheld bond on you guys.
01:01:52
They didn't let you have the discovery in a proper manner.
01:01:55
Because at the end of the day, let's talk about a few things
01:01:57
for the audience. Let's just go on.
01:01:59
Let's talk about the food in, in the Bureau of Presents.
01:02:01
They claim that everything is nutritionally sufficient that
01:02:05
they've mentioned the calories. I there's a menu that gets, did
01:02:08
you ever see the menus by the month of what you're supposed to
01:02:11
be eating on a certain day? Did they ever provide that to
01:02:12
you guys? And it doesn't match so.
01:02:15
It doesn't. Wait, wait, wait.
01:02:16
That's what I'm saying. So to meet the calories, they're
01:02:19
supposed to match this. A nutritionist that works for
01:02:21
the BLP creates the national menu.
01:02:24
It's supposed to have so much protein, so many carbohydrates,
01:02:27
so much fiber. It's supposed to have so many
01:02:29
fruits and vegetables. Did the did the menu ever match
01:02:33
what you guys got served? Never.
01:02:36
I would say it never matched it. Never.
01:02:39
Tell the audience about the maggots.
01:02:41
So, so we were getting you could actually look it up.
01:02:45
It was done in a New York piece, Google MDC Brooklyn maggots and
01:02:49
food. You were forced to eat it
01:02:52
because the comments are you can only order once every two weeks
01:02:55
and you were given a limit $60.00 every two weeks, 120 a
01:03:01
month. And the national limit, just so
01:03:03
we're clear, they had them on the restrictive commissary, the
01:03:05
national limit is 300 and change, but they were penalizing
01:03:08
them by giving them a limited limit.
01:03:09
And I can tell you this with the prices and commissary, there's
01:03:12
no way you can get enough calories with that food.
01:03:15
You're going to lose muscle, your your testosterone is going
01:03:17
to go in the basement. There's all kinds of things.
01:03:19
How about the deprivation? Let's do this, the food, let's
01:03:22
go back. Did you guys see rats and mice
01:03:25
in the facility ever? Did you have those rats?
01:03:26
Because rats and mice are common in all the prison facilities in
01:03:29
the federal system all over the nation.
01:03:31
Vince, I, I, I do, but you just hit a key point.
01:03:34
I want to, I want to, I want to say something on that.
01:03:36
So I just had my blood work done.
01:03:37
I was supposed to get a surgery that they denied me.
01:03:40
So my blood work showed when I went into the BOP, my
01:03:44
cholesterol was 180. It's now 2240.
01:03:50
And my test, my testosterone levels were extremely low.
01:03:55
As far as the rats, rats and mice are a common thing in
01:03:58
there. But I, I, I want to touch on on
01:04:01
what the food did to me. If you look at the pictures of
01:04:03
me before I went to January 6th, I was in tip top shape.
01:04:06
I went to the gym, I took care of myself.
01:04:08
I'm now awaiting two different surgeries because the BOP denied
01:04:12
to do the the surgeries and they're the ones who caused the
01:04:15
issue when when I sued them, I filed a suit against them.
01:04:19
You can Google Ryan Sampson versus MDC Brooklyn and it will
01:04:24
pop right up. They denied me my surgery on on
01:04:28
three different occasions through the grievance process.
01:04:30
So I filed what's called a habeas corpus means to produce
01:04:34
body. The judge not only denied the
01:04:36
habeas corpus without 'cause she just denied it and said no
01:04:40
refrain. Back to the grievance system.
01:04:43
When I finally seen an outside doctor, the outside doctor said
01:04:47
that my testosterone levels were at the at at the point of a 80
01:04:51
year old male. Yeah.
01:04:53
And that's because. Hold on.
01:04:54
So but. They denied you 2 surgeries but
01:04:57
if you wanted a sex change surgery they would have gave it
01:04:59
to you. That's how fun and they do sex
01:05:01
change. I know that's all screwed up
01:05:02
there. Let me ask you a question.
01:05:04
Because you're a Barber, were you even able to cut hair and
01:05:06
hair since we make some canteen off that way?
01:05:09
So they, they, what they would do is once a month they'll bring
01:05:12
Clippers to us and we're not, we're allowed to do non styled
01:05:16
haircuts, which is why I usually have my hair like you.
01:05:20
But This is why I'm walking around like a concentration camp
01:05:23
member. Yeah, so non styled haircuts,
01:05:27
but let's go on here for a minute.
01:05:28
So, so you guys, so anybody out there, if you meet a person that
01:05:33
served a major amount of time in the federal system and you
01:05:35
actually engaged them in a conversation, you would feel you
01:05:37
would recognize that they had tremendous mental issues.
01:05:42
So not only is it from the nutrition that the BOP lies
01:05:44
about, because the guards are constantly stealing, some of
01:05:47
them have been charged, but not enough.
01:05:49
They steal still food in high quantities out of the kitchens.
01:05:53
Then they take it home. I don't know whether they sell
01:05:55
it. I don't know if they sell it to
01:05:56
the restaurants. I have no idea.
01:05:57
But that's why there's a shortage in the kitchens.
01:05:59
They don't care. There are very few facilities
01:06:01
that protect the the inmates when it comes to the food.
01:06:04
You'll find mice and rat feces in the food.
01:06:07
You'll find black mold in the kitchens on the ceilings.
01:06:10
Let's talk about the water in your cell.
01:06:13
Were you, were you dealing with facilities where it was brown
01:06:16
water coming out of the sink and, and and the and and other
01:06:20
problems with the plumbing? So, yeah, that's, it's, it's
01:06:23
amazing that you even brought that up.
01:06:25
So, yeah, the, the sinks were the, the pipes were so old when
01:06:32
New York with the the facility I was at, New York was built on
01:06:37
old lead pipes. Now they, yeah, they, and
01:06:41
there's a, there's a lawsuit that, that, that this, I guess
01:06:47
the Barrow sued the city. They said that the, the way the
01:06:50
infrastructure is, they couldn't change the pipe, so they only
01:06:54
did it for the residents. But anything that was
01:06:56
institutional, including some of the hospitals in the in the
01:07:01
prisons would not change because the infrastructure was too big
01:07:04
or the facilities were too old and they were outdated and it
01:07:07
would have cost too much money. But.
01:07:10
So you're drinking brown water out of lead pipes?
01:07:13
That's a fact you can go. That's nice.
01:07:15
It's nice how they treat the inmates, you know, even the guys
01:07:18
that aren't guilty yet. The pre and remember, this is
01:07:20
pretrial detainment. We're not even talking about the
01:07:22
federal facilities at this point.
01:07:23
So let's go on with this. How about hygiene?
01:07:26
How often were you allowed to shower?
01:07:29
You get a shower once every three days if you're all locked
01:07:33
down, which was constant when I was in MDC Brooklyn.
01:07:35
There was approximately 3 murders in the last year, so we
01:07:39
would be locked down for sometimes three to four months
01:07:42
at a time, usually once every 10 days.
01:07:45
Once every 10 days? How about nail Clippers?
01:07:47
How often are you allowed to clip your nails in there?
01:07:49
Now never. So you, they were, you never
01:07:52
supplied nail Clippers whatsoever, No.
01:07:54
So even on hygiene day when they, they offered you razors to
01:07:56
cut hair, they, there was never an opportunity to cut your
01:07:59
nails. No, you know, and, and, and
01:08:01
think about, these are just things you, you know, for the
01:08:04
audience and, and the public. Sometimes you go, oh, he's a
01:08:06
felon, he deserves it or he's a criminal.
01:08:08
He deserves it. You guys don't realize the
01:08:10
injustice. No, I know but but you
01:08:14
understand in the with the press that they did do him.
01:08:17
They're acting like he had other cases.
01:08:18
He's never had a felony. So they said, oh, he beat up his
01:08:21
girlfriend. He's a violent he's a snitch.
01:08:23
He said this it's all about painting the picture.
01:08:25
They're denying rights here and and and my problem is is that I
01:08:29
want to know when the guards, when the wardens, when the
01:08:32
assistant wardens, when the supervisors, when the
01:08:34
lieutenants, when the captains are going to face consequences
01:08:37
for this. I want to know where the
01:08:38
American public is going to stand up and stop them from
01:08:40
treating inmates like this because just because somebody
01:08:43
makes a mistake, and I'm not talking about career criminals,
01:08:46
I'm not talking about somebody that has a rap sheet that's 30,
01:08:49
you know, felonies, deep, yadda, yadda, yadda.
01:08:51
I'm talking about individuals maybe made one mistake.
01:08:54
They want to fix their life. I know you made a comment.
01:08:55
I get a second chance at life and I don't intend on wasting
01:08:58
it. Even.
01:08:59
This is a quote you made in the paper and you also said I don't
01:09:02
want to embarrass Mr. Trump by ever getting myself in trouble.
01:09:04
The point of the matter is you respect Donald Trump.
01:09:07
You respect who he is. The people in jail respect him
01:09:09
because now he's one of the first presidents.
01:09:11
I don't know how many presidents ever had felonies that actually,
01:09:13
you know, ended up being elected.
01:09:15
I respect him for it. I respect what he did with you
01:09:17
guys. But this system needs an
01:09:19
overhaul. American public, you need to
01:09:22
tell your senators and congressmen, I don't care
01:09:23
whether you're liberal and non partisan or conservative.
01:09:26
You need to raise it to the Raptors because you're going to
01:09:28
find out that if I had, if I put interviews on George and I for
01:09:32
the next 15 days, I would bet that the interviews that we're
01:09:36
doing with Ryan right now and we'll talk about a wide
01:09:39
diversity of convicted felons. I'll bet you that we would to
01:09:43
care. Even worse stories.
01:09:44
Ryan's are horrendous, but we hear him worse.
01:09:46
I mean, George, am I right? Don't you think we put 15
01:09:48
interviews on a row with guys that had federal cases and we're
01:09:51
now out? They would all have horrendous
01:09:53
stories about what happened. I think we might be ending up
01:09:56
getting federal cases if we did that.
01:09:59
Yeah, no kidding. They would.
01:10:00
They don't even want us to do what we're doing right now.
01:10:02
We've been attacked enough. We get death threats.
01:10:04
We get told all sorts of things in our DMS.
01:10:06
I mean, I don't know if I don't get a death threat a week or
01:10:09
somebody telling me I'm a piece of shit or a scumbag, you know,
01:10:12
at least a couple times a week. I don't even feel like we've
01:10:14
done our job. But it's disgusting.
01:10:16
I don't think we should even have to talk like this.
01:10:18
I think there are plenty of people that would do the job.
01:10:19
There are plenty of people that would be guards in a jail, and
01:10:22
there are plenty of people that could be Warrens or plenty of
01:10:24
people that could be prosecutors that would follow the law.
01:10:26
I don't think we have to have these lowlifes in there.
01:10:28
And that's why this system is the way it is.
01:10:31
Let's talk about the the, the the law library, how
01:10:36
insufficient the law library is in federal prisons.
01:10:39
What was your law library like? Because they alleged that we've
01:10:41
got all the resources and all the access to defend ourselves,
01:10:45
that they give us all the tools. How is the law library in jail?
01:10:48
So, so first of all, if it's on a tablet or it's on a computer.
01:10:52
So it depends what jail you're at.
01:10:54
So if you're in, if you're in MDC Brooklyn, there's four
01:10:58
computers on a block that you would have to be trained on to
01:11:02
know how to log into it. There's no law books and you got
01:11:08
196 a 198 inmates per block that are pretrial and you have to
01:11:16
sign up. You get 45 minute timeline on a
01:11:19
computer to use the law library. Now it it's nearly impossible.
01:11:25
And when I was in DC you have what's called a, it's a Securus
01:11:30
tablet. The Securus tablet you would log
01:11:33
in and they would have a local library on this tablet.
01:11:37
Now The thing is you would have to be there at least nine months
01:11:43
to a year to go on the list to get a tablet.
01:11:46
Once you're on the list to get a tablet, you you better hope that
01:11:51
you can charge it because if you're locked in that you're not
01:11:54
able to even charge a tablet. So it it it's, it's impossible.
01:12:00
And Securus, it's funny you said that and I told you this
01:12:03
earlier. Securus Technologies have been
01:12:05
accused of eavesdropping on defendants, you know,
01:12:10
attorney-client privilege communications all across the
01:12:12
country. It started with US versus Novak
01:12:14
in 2006 in Boston, MA. It's come forward and these
01:12:18
cases are coming out again and again.
01:12:20
And I wouldn't be surprised that if you did get logged into the
01:12:22
Securus tablet and you were looking up case law, I wouldn't
01:12:25
be surprised if the prosecutors even get access to that, that
01:12:29
they know what you're looking at to try to defend yourself.
01:12:32
I know that the legal system, Lexus, Nessus, others, they have
01:12:35
the inferior version in most jails, if they even had some of
01:12:39
the jails. They have law libraries that
01:12:41
include books, but they're they're, they're incomplete.
01:12:45
They don't have the newest law. They don't have Chevron or
01:12:47
anything else. They don't get updated enough.
01:12:49
I don't know what the secure system looks like, but I would
01:12:51
have to guess it's inferior to what a prosecutor or anybody
01:12:55
else. And that isn't a fair defense.
01:12:57
That isn't the right to defend yourself fairly.
01:12:59
They want to keep it insufficient.
01:13:01
That's why they never let you on a bond.
01:13:02
Clearly they held him for 13 months without an indictment,
01:13:06
even if he had charges coming. They don't even arrested him
01:13:10
with no indictment. You understand how illegal that
01:13:12
is. They're supposed to have the
01:13:13
charges you're guilty of and you should have been out on bond.
01:13:17
They should have given you even even a, you know, a a personal
01:13:20
recognizance bond. I think this is just this is
01:13:23
just more garbage. Oh, and over and over again.
01:13:26
Can I say one thing? Please man.
01:13:28
So when I was at USP Lewisburg, the doctor there, I said that my
01:13:36
medical conditions were so horrific that because I have
01:13:41
also blood clots from the assault that lead to the heart
01:13:44
that now are lifelong because they never, they went unnoticed.
01:13:49
I didn't even know I had blood clots that were deep inside.
01:13:54
So he wrote the government a letter himself.
01:13:57
He went out and did this himself and asked that I be released
01:14:00
because there he went on the record.
01:14:05
Two days later, he changed his opinion.
01:14:07
So when we questioned him why, you know, with the thanks of
01:14:10
Sidney Powell, she got me a really good lawyer.
01:14:12
The lawyer said why did you change your opinion?
01:14:16
And he said on the record that he got a phone call from the
01:14:19
government and he said it was a firewall phone call saying not
01:14:23
to release me and to change his opinion.
01:14:25
He said that in court to Judge Jaya Cobb.
01:14:30
So within 48 hours, without even an evaluation, he changed his
01:14:36
medical opinion without and without a full medical work up.
01:14:40
So that's what they do. Yeah, you know Ryan, man, all I
01:14:45
can tell you is, you know George.
01:14:48
Is there anything George, you want to comment before I say,
01:14:50
man, it's been enough. Yeah, man, I'm sorry what you
01:14:54
went through. You didn't deserve it.
01:14:57
I think we should have been allowed to peacefully protest.
01:14:59
I don't think we should have had people like Ray Epps in the
01:15:01
crowds. I don't think we should have had
01:15:03
all the feds in the crowds like that.
01:15:05
I think we have a corrupt institution of government, a
01:15:07
deep state. I can you just share with the
01:15:09
audience? I understand you told me before
01:15:12
the interview that Donald Trump assisted you with legal defense.
01:15:16
Can you just tell the audience about that?
01:15:17
Because a lot of times those stories, you know, Trump, I got
01:15:20
to give it to him. You know, I've heard a lot of
01:15:22
stories from friends of his about what a good man he is and
01:15:26
how many people he's helped that he never goes public with,
01:15:28
whether he helped people financially, helped him with
01:15:30
attorneys. He, he, he uses, he puts his
01:15:33
money where his mouth is. And he doesn't promote himself.
01:15:36
So most of the time, nobody hears about it.
01:15:38
Can you tell the audience what Donald Trump did for you?
01:15:41
So in Arizona in 2022, he gave a speech, and in his speech he
01:15:47
talked about Ashley Babbitt being murdered.
01:15:51
Right after that he said, there's a gentleman and he
01:15:55
described my assault. And he said, why don't we start
01:15:58
helping these people out? What do you say?
01:16:00
And not three days later that I get a phone call from Sydney
01:16:07
Pell. And she said, hey, look,
01:16:09
somebody paid for your legal defense fund.
01:16:12
I just can't really tell you who without words being said.
01:16:19
I, you know, I pretty much know who it was.
01:16:22
And, you know, she, you know, I, he, I know it was him.
01:16:27
I know he had a big part of it. And so did she.
01:16:29
And because of that, I had a really good attorney named
01:16:31
Stanley Woodward, Julia Howard and Sydney Powell assisted them.
01:16:36
And it was all because of Donald Trump, you know, giving us
01:16:40
speech and I think giving money behind the doors that he just
01:16:44
didn't want the credit for. And that's the kind of guy he
01:16:47
is. And I think that was important.
01:16:48
He did that. I hope you're going to get some
01:16:50
additional legal help. I know you and I'll be
01:16:53
communicating more. I want to talk to you about that
01:16:55
person you told me about. I know you just filed a new
01:16:58
brief. Just give everybody you know a
01:17:00
quick Cliff notes of what that brief entails and why you filed
01:17:04
it. So it's a state brief.
01:17:07
It, it was one of the attorneys that I had he, he took a lot of
01:17:14
my money that that was debrief and he come to find out he
01:17:18
wasn't even a lawyer and he did jail time before and he miss
01:17:23
misrepresented me by telling me that he was an attorney and he
01:17:28
stole $45 from me. So I unfortunately have to try
01:17:32
to sue him in civil court and that that's what that brief was.
01:17:36
What was his name? Sam Mangle, he was actually
01:17:40
arrested for for this before. He told me he was going to get
01:17:46
me medical doctors, that he was going to help me get all this
01:17:50
stuff and he so I gave him $40.
01:17:53
When I wasn't able to call him, he reached out to my family and
01:17:55
said, hey, Ryan said give me $5000 more.
01:18:00
My family didn't even have the money.
01:18:01
So they gave they, they, they, you know, got the money somehow
01:18:05
on how gave them the $5000. And he was supposed to be a
01:18:08
sentencing specialist. I never got sentenced.
01:18:11
He kept the money and that's it. So I had to file a, a suit and I
01:18:16
had to file it myself because I, you know, I don't have the funds
01:18:19
right now. I just got out.
01:18:20
So I filed it myself and I I'm waiting on a court date right
01:18:24
now. Where is he practice law?
01:18:27
He doesn't practice law. He practices whatever he
01:18:31
practices out of Florida. He's not even a, he's not even a
01:18:33
attorney. So that was a that was, it was a
01:18:36
lie he misled. You know, that's even worse.
01:18:38
The people that I think try to take advantage of inmates with
01:18:41
all these promises of being experts in some field and
01:18:44
they're usually just some scammer.
01:18:46
Ryan, look, you know, I think you, you, you need to get some
01:18:49
more legal counsel. I think you have a massive case.
01:18:52
I think you should start Foying every facility you were ever in
01:18:55
for all your records. Use the presidential pardon as
01:18:58
justification that they have to supply everything that they have
01:19:00
to comply under FOIA laws. Even if they don't comply,
01:19:03
that'll be additional evidence. I think you should FOIA for all
01:19:07
sorts of stuff. And, and, and you, you need to
01:19:09
look at a thing called a writ of quorum Novus.
01:19:11
It's post relief. I don't know how the
01:19:13
presidential pardon effects that, but it might be something
01:19:15
you want to investigate. It's called a writ of quorum
01:19:17
Novus. I take a look at it.
01:19:18
Cindy Powell knows about it, but one of my friends got her some
01:19:22
information about potentially using that.
01:19:24
That's before you guys got pardons.
01:19:26
But it's a great post remedy. But at the same time, you're
01:19:29
going to need to file tort claim because a lot of people violated
01:19:32
your rights in many ways. I believe they owe you millions
01:19:34
of dollars. And I think what the most
01:19:36
important thing is you have to shine light on this because
01:19:38
there's a lot of guys that are still in jail that have been
01:19:41
taken advantage of, that this government is intentionally
01:19:43
screwed. This Department of Justice needs
01:19:45
a major overhaul. You know, I have some stuff that
01:19:49
I haven't even given to them yet, but I'm going to try to
01:19:50
connect with Pam Bondi, our friend Cash Patel, and many
01:19:53
others. Well, if I get into any of these
01:19:55
dialogues, I will directly bring you up.
01:19:57
I promise you that. I appreciate the interview
01:19:59
tonight and I appreciate how candid you were, man.
01:20:01
And I'm sorry what you went through.
01:20:03
But I guess maybe it's all for a reason and maybe you're going to
01:20:06
be able to make a difference for other people, George, without
01:20:08
any other comments you want to make.
01:20:09
I'm sorry for what you went through and all the J Sixers.
01:20:12
I hope you guys all get justice and whatever we could do to help
01:20:16
you guys get the word out. Please let us know because this
01:20:19
shit's got to stop. It has to end.
01:20:22
And I've been saying this in Atlanta, we talked about this
01:20:24
and saying it's a lot of shows. If Trump, we got four years to
01:20:28
get all this stuff fixed DOJFBI, if he doesn't get it done, we're
01:20:31
screwed. Well, George and I are in
01:20:33
dialogues with a lot of people within the.
01:20:35
Administration this time, and I got to tell you, the gloves are
01:20:39
off for what's going to happen here.
01:20:40
We're going to make sure some people fake consequences for
01:20:42
what they did because I think that's the only way we fix it.
01:20:45
You know, they want to put fear into the American public.
01:20:47
They need to have some fear of their own when it comes to our
01:20:49
legal system. They have to realize that the
01:20:51
rule of law, the protection under the law, equal application
01:20:54
of law, those things matter, as does the Constitution.
01:20:57
So, all right, listen for the audience.
01:20:59
Don't forget we've got the Global Finance Forum on Friday.
01:21:03
I may have a guest. You know, George and I weren't
01:21:05
completing the swings of some of the guest stuff.
01:21:07
I'm still closing, as I did tonight with Ryan, getting him
01:21:10
on here. I just want to say tomorrow,
01:21:12
George, we're off, correct? Yeah.
01:21:13
No show no more. George is flying tomorrow.
01:21:15
Yeah, George is flying from. Getting back to New Jersey for a
01:21:18
couple days. And he'll be back in Florida,
01:21:19
but we will have a show on Friday.
01:21:21
So we've got the Global Finance Forum on Friday, we've got the
01:21:24
regular show on Friday. And of course, we've got the
01:21:26
nationally syndicated radio show, The Big, Big Talk Oreo
01:21:28
show on the weekend, Saturday and Sunday, airing on Liberty
01:21:31
News Radio Network. You can check us out over there.
01:21:34
Let me say this to you guys. Don't stay on the sidelines.
01:21:36
You're hearing this. This is going on and on and on.
01:21:39
And you can say, oh, that'll never happen to me.
01:21:40
I never violate the law. You'd be surprised.
01:21:43
You could do something as innocuous as not correctly
01:21:46
reporting on your federal income tax.
01:21:50
Trump hasn't made federal income tax an exception yet.
01:21:52
You never know when this could happen to you or a loved one.
01:21:55
You're going to want to put an end to it.
01:21:56
Ryan Samsel, thank you so very much.
01:21:58
Stick around for a minute. I want to talk to you backstage.
01:22:00
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01:22:03
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children, forcing them to kill and mutilate.
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Innocent victims. Somebody had to pay the price.
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because the bad things. Never stop.
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like him in the world. And I said to him, I said, would
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you go now? To get Kony in the Congo.
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in the. DRC Do you have ISIS there?
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You have Islamic State. And you have ADF.
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He's in the Congo. And now God has me in the Congo,
01:25:08
you know, So hopefully we'll meet up one day, but maybe I can
01:25:13
lead him to the. Lord or send?
01:25:14
Him there. One or the other, huh?