THE BIG MIG SHOW
JANUARY 28, 2025
EPISODE 466 – 7PM
Dr. Michael Schwartz discusses Dr. Fauci's Pardon and his NEW book Vaccine Fiction: The Truth Leads Out In Small Doses, including House Panel (Covid leaked from Lab). https://a.co/d/5KlaI8f https://www.michaeljschwartz.com
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So yesterday I was a little bit tired.
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But yeah, Lance, you know what? I just heard my other ticket.
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You know, Peter McCullough, Judy Mikovits, you know, Stella
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Emanuel, There's so many people that we have had on for
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interviews. We were some of the early people
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that warned you about vaccines, got ourselves suspended in
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multiple locations because of it 'cause we just provided the
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truth and we had the experts on. Of course, that wasn't supposed
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to be the science. And tonight is no different.
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Like I said a minute ago, if we were broadcasting to YouTube,
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they would be slamming the door on us, guaranteed, because they
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would call to this medical disinformation.
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Doctor Michael Schwartz joins us tonight.
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Author, whistleblower, entrepreneur, researcher.
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I actually, I don't want to point that out.
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That's what AI said about him. AI picked those 4 words.
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He uses some of them himself. But it was funny how they also
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put up whistleblower. He's written two books and
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everybody's got it on their mind.
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These blanket pre emptive pardons that Biden crammed down
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the American public's throats on his way out the door.
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Nobody likes it. I don't know if these people are
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safe or not. They think they are.
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They're operating like they are. And Fauci for me, has been one
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of the worst. I don't like his research he did
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with AIDS. I don't like the research and
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what he did. I don't like animal testing,
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what he did to those vehicles. I've always said that if I had
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an opportunity, I'd put a cage on Doctor Fauci's head and fill
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it with sand flies and strap him down and let him deal with the
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consequences of that. You know, our audience, they've
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been well educated. I would say the majority of them
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are unvaccinated. And the people that got
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vaccinated maybe probably have some regrets.
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Hopefully they didn't get the Pfizer vaccine.
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So Doctor Schwartz, he hosts the popular podcast 2 Mics Live,
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receives over 1 views per month, is the author of the
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number one best selling book on Amazon, Fauci's fiction.
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He's an entrepreneur since 93, holds a doctorate in business
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administration and a desertion on the CARES Act, which is
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great. He's he's it's archived in the
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Library of Congress. Doctor Schwartz has owned
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multiple medical clinics and is a consulting firm focused on
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genetics and respiratory pathogens.
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He currently serves as the laboratory director at Minister,
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Inc Additionally, a former police officer, which is
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interesting. I'm going to have to ask him how
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he went from police officer to doctor.
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I don't know if he studied why he was a police officer.
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We'll have to find out the path he took because that's obviously
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an interesting route. It's not what you would normally
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expect to hear. We'll.
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See, because I know in the area where he was a police officer,
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they'd hire like summer police officer help because it gets so
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crazy down there. I don't know.
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All right, well, he also developed a course called the
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Secrets of Body Language and Communication for various
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organizations and government agencies.
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I was teasing them backstage. I said, you know, I might have
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taken your course because I took a lot of courses back when I was
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a government contractor about ticks and tells behavioral, you
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know, the way people operate in public because you're always
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looking for, you know, danger close in those situations when
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you're doing diplomatic security or facility staffing.
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So it's one of those things. And of course, you want to make
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sure that you know what people are up to do.
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Let's bring them in here. There's no reason to leave
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backstage. Just get him in here.
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He's an expert. Welcome to the big, big show,
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Doctor Schwartz. How you doing, Sir?
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Good guys. Thanks.
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That was a long intro. I didn't.
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I never expect anybody to read all the whole bio, but yeah, I I
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appreciate it. Well, you know, we, well, one of
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the reasons we like to really give people some of the
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background on a show cause whether they've read your book
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or not, and they should have, hopefully, hopefully this is on
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their list of books. If they haven't read it, they
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should head over to Amazon and buy it.
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But just like you said a little while ago, you know, the path
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that gets people to where they're at.
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I was a different guy years ago. I, I really was less, you know,
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I think I was probably a more selfish person.
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I was more concerned about what was good for me, wasn't
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concerned about what my behavior, actions led to those
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around me or what I was involved in.
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It changes, you know, your life changes.
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You made a big change to go from a police officer and I don't so
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explain that to me. Were you already a doctor?
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No. Decided to become a police
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officer or vice versa. I started out, I mean, I got
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it's, you know, my career has been around the block.
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I started out as an entrepreneur.
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I was homeless when I was 15. I moved out when I was 15 and I
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started my first company when I was 17.
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So I've been an entrepreneur for the, the better part of my life.
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I got into business for a long time.
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I, I, I enjoyed it. Long story is I lost a huge
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contract, a government contract for my my first company and I
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just got burned out. I said I wanted to do something
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different. At that time, I had got my
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pilot's license. I had been an auxiliary officer
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in Toms River, NJ. And one of my friends said to
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me, you like to, in the auxiliary thing, why don't you
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become a cop? That was kind of a midlife
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crisis for me. So I, I got hired by Seaside
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Heights, went to the police Academy and next thing you know,
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I'm, I'm standing there in 4° weather and parking lot day and
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I'm thinking in my head, what did I do?
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But you know, when I make a commitment, I go forward with
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it. So I, I, I finished the Academy,
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I worked as the police officer for a while, but I immediately
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got back into business when I was in the Academy because I
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think I realized I, I, I career wise, I didn't want to do that
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my entire life, but what a great education.
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You know, I've got, you just keep accumulating things over
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life, right? And then the, the direction
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might change. But you're right.
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All those things in life make you, you know, a unique person
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and I, I wouldn't change a thing.
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You know, it, it was there an, and I always ask people this
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because you, I'm always curious, you know, because George and I,
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we, we get a, a wide variety of guests on the show.
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We've had Cash Patel and General Michael Flynn and Rodger Stone
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and we're, we're lucky, we're fortunate a lot of those people
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are friends of ours. We're tied into the Trump
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administration, you know, with a lot of them.
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Was there a moment? Because clearly the route you
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took at some point was there an epiphany moment before you?
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You started to write these books and thought, OK, enough of this
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bullshit. I cannot sit on the sideline
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with what I know and and allow this to continue.
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Well, to give you a little background, so my medical clinic
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in New Jersey was the first clinic to ever do a COVID test
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in the state of New Jersey. We had done something for a very
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long time. I always like to say my patients
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knew what COVID swabs were long before the public did because we
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had done something innovative. It's it's called a respiratory
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pathogen panel. You write it in my bio.
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It's something that we would always teach to other doctors.
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But when you were sick, if you had come to us ten years ago, we
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would. And it goes off to the lab.
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Why? Because we practice good
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medicine. Most doctors won't do that type
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of testing. They like to guess at what they
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do. And we learned a lot during
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COVID. We could talk about that a bit.
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But we had always done respiratory pathogen panels.
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And one of the labs that I work with was one of the 1st 30 in
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the nation to get FDA approval to do testing.
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So we kind of fell into it by happenstance.
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So as the first person to do testing in New Jersey, we were
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alone on an island. We were gathering all this data
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and I was kind of looking at it a little bit differently in my
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analytical mind. And, and, and there's, we can
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get into that as well. We're the only ones on the, in
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the country. We actually have the largest
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amount of horizontal data on COVID in the entire country.
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And, and that's different than COVID looking at it as a
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negative or positive, because COVID isn't just negative or
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positive. It's either negative or positive
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with caveats. And that's very important.
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And when you look at the data differently, like we did, it
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uncovers a lot. But in the 1st, I don't know,
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30-60 days, we had enough data to tell everybody like this is
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not what you're seeing on TVI had 19 patients.
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We didn't lose 1. We did 44 tests in multiple
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states at a clinic in Key West at the time as well.
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And, and, and what the data tells us was completely
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different than what you saw on TV.
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But we knew that so early on that we were trying to tell guys
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like you, we were trying to tell the media, we were trying to
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tell government officials, but we kept getting swept away.
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This the narrative overtook all of the actual data that we were
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seeing on the ground. So let me ask you this.
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When you talk about the data, was that the data set that you
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guys had created through your 19 patients or did you also
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get access to data from other parts of the country with maybe
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other friends of yours or clinics?
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Were you able to integrate other data sets into those sets?
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So yes and no. The data that we have is
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proprietary. We did it in a in a vacuum,
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right? Because we were so busy at the
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time treating patients, we weren't really paying attention
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to any of the noise because a lot of the stuff you'd hear on
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television from the talking heads just didn't make sense.
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So what we did, we did it in a in a vacuum.
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Eventually we did start consulting and talking to other
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clinics and kind of seeing what they were seeing mostly when the
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shots were coming out. You know, we we compare notes,
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you know, what do you see? And that's what you do.
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I mean, you're talking to other people, but most people weren't
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doing what we were doing. When I say we were alone on an
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island for the first, I don't know, six months to a year that
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that the media would take 12 months to 1516, eighteen months
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to catch up to what we were saying where our patients are
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ready. So you'd ask me about the book
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everything in my first book in Fouch use fiction.
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This is the conversation I had with every single patient
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everyday. Hold that a couple more time,
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doctors for the audience. I want to make sure they see
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that. Go ahead.
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Yeah. Yeah, most people haven't heard
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of this because they got it did get number one on a couple
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categories. But the censorship that's going
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on, I write about that in my new book, Vaccine Fiction.
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There's a ton of it. And when people don't do this
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for a living, you know, you guys get it because you do a show and
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you get banned and you see it in action.
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But when you tell people about censorship and shadow banning,
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they usually get this glazed look on their face because they
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just don't understand it. From your perspective, this
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book, I had a fight to get this book out and I still do.
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Whatever the government doesn't want you to know about COVID is,
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is right here in Fauci's fiction.
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It's the story. It's the anecdotal stories of
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our patients. It's the real data, what we were
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seeing on the ground from doing all that test and putting it
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into perspective, which again, like I said, tells a very
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different story. It's not about Fauci.
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That's the common misconception. They think it's a hit piece.
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I think I mentioned him three times in the book, but he gets
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the cover for all the the fallacies that were told from
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that podium, whether it was him or Doctor Burks or Wolinski at
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the CDC, everybody associates COVID with Fauci, so he gets the
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cover for that. You know.
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And rightfully so. You know, there's still.
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Yeah, hold on, they're still suppressing us if we talk on
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other platforms with all the medical information, all the all
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the studies shown, you know, the negative effects of COVID and
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the vaccine. They still want to ban you and
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and suppress us because TikTok. I just, my count just got naked
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the other day. Again, this is twice in like 2
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weeks, but I got it back. But they're fighting for free
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speech in the Supreme Court and they don't believe in it.
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Same thing with like YouTube and there's still other places.
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But it's like, what do we have to do for that, for these people
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to believe? The medical industrial complex
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is extremely sophisticated and well funded.
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And when you look at you can call it alt media, you know, you
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know, obviously a lot of people are starting to call it new
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media. But when you look at mainstream
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media and you look at the funding sources, whether it be
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the Pfizer's or the Johnsons and Johnsons and you look at the
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amount of capital that they pump into media sources.
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And then you look at the lobbyists and you look at the
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directives of what the course that I believe.
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And I've always thought it that part of the election theft
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required this lockdown. It required fear mongering.
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It's no really different than what they did to the feds
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direction, you know, J Sixers and the way they went after him
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because that that was a created event, right?
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The Leslie, the munitions, they use it to agitate and incite the
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crowd. But this is really interesting
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that you know, that when we look at medical, I don't think
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anybody, all of us never believed that there was some.
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And you know, all I can say is it seems like a nefarious plot
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to me. It's really sophisticated what
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they do and the way that they, you know, of course, treat the
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symptoms and don't treat the disease.
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As an example, the bad labeling that the horse paste got, you
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know, ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine in the way
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that was treated. They don't want to talk about
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the Nobel Prize. They don't want to talk about
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how parasites seem to be driving a predominant amount of the
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cancers in the United States. Of course, they've got to hide
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that because that doesn't go along with, hey, let's just give
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them some pills. Let's have them come in and get
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some chemo. We'll do this, we'll do that.
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We, we joke around, we've had some people that were experts.
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They talk about the benzene sheeting and some of the other
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things that are inside of these vaccines for the life.
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I mean, nobody can come up with a real reason of why they should
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be in there. And of course, R.E.M.
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Destavier on this show, we call it Run Death is Near.
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And George actually had a cousin that passed away because he
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couldn't get the family to listen to him in New Jersey.
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And they made a lot of bad decisions.
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And, and one of them was not trying to get, you know,
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ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine or the rest of it.
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I think he got in the hospital. Did they put him on a
00:17:00
ventilator? George, am I right about that?
00:17:02
No. Problem his wife is a vegan so
00:17:04
she don't believe in any meds so he didn't take anything.
00:17:07
His breathing got worse end up going to the hospital so they
00:17:11
gave him run I can we call run death is near put him on a vent.
00:17:15
I don't know, like 45 days later.
00:17:17
It was like I watched him take his last breath, like from the
00:17:20
machines and stuff. I mean, he was oozing blood from
00:17:23
his fingernail. It was horrible, like the shit
00:17:25
that did. Let me ask you this, Doctor
00:17:28
Schwartz, before we dive in, I and I, I know you, I already
00:17:33
probably know the answer to this.
00:17:34
When you started to expose the truth and you started bringing
00:17:37
these data sets in and say, look, I've got data on 10
00:17:41
patients, Clearly this is not what everybody's seeing.
00:17:44
Did you immediately feel yourself getting attacked?
00:17:46
Because I'm surprised you're able to maintain your medical
00:17:49
license because so many people they went after, like Doctor
00:17:52
Stella Emmanuel, you know, the work she did, they went after
00:17:54
her viciously. Peter McCullough, Doctor Malone,
00:17:58
another friend of ours, went after him viciously.
00:18:00
Did you have the same thing happen to you?
00:18:01
Well, you. Got to remember I don't have a
00:18:03
medical license. I'm a research doctor.
00:18:05
They can't pull my I can't pull a medical license when you don't
00:18:08
have one. But I do manage medical staff,
00:18:10
so I'm watching what they're doing.
00:18:11
We came up with protocols pretty early.
00:18:13
And yes, we were, we were hounded right from the start.
00:18:15
And remember, I managed medical staff.
00:18:17
So they're out there doing the work on looking at it.
00:18:19
You know, I'm, I'm hands on the, you know, you know, boots on the
00:18:21
ground, I'm hands in every day. We're looking at all this stuff.
00:18:24
We're talking to patients for recording symptomology.
00:18:27
We're looking at CT. That what I find interesting
00:18:30
guys, is that I'll have these conversations and I've done
00:18:32
hundreds of shows and, you know, podcasts and national TV.
00:18:36
Most people, it's funny, most people I find still don't know
00:18:39
the basics on COVID. We could have these kind of
00:18:42
everybody goes down a different rabbit hole.
00:18:44
But people, I always tell people they're kind of stuck on chapter
00:18:47
1 in my book when I'm already at the end of two books and, you
00:18:50
know, 28 total chapters. And I'll, I'll go on interviews
00:18:53
and people will ask me questions and I realize they still don't
00:18:56
know. This is what it gets.
00:18:57
It gets on my nerves. It's if Fauci had come out right
00:19:01
early on in those press briefings and just told
00:19:03
everybody the basic basics, how viruses mutate, the difference
00:19:06
between isolation and quarantine.
00:19:08
And I say that in my book. I talk about it because language
00:19:10
is important. Everybody goes down a rabbit
00:19:13
hole. You know, we get it.
00:19:13
We can go down so many different levels.
00:19:15
You guys brought up ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine.
00:19:17
Truth is, we never used it. The only treatments we ever used
00:19:20
in our office, vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc and
00:19:22
electrolytes. That's it.
00:19:24
Then we would prone patients if they were having breathing
00:19:26
issues, if they had a coinfection, we would treat it
00:19:29
with an antibiotic. But it's important to know if
00:19:31
you have a coinfection. See, when I tell you COVID is
00:19:33
very different than what you you hear on TV, even five years into
00:19:37
this, I'll ask host and I'll say, do you know the difference
00:19:39
between isolation and quarantine?
00:19:41
I get looked at with this glazed look over my head and I said, it
00:19:43
goes back to it goes back to language.
00:19:46
You know, I'll still call people and tell them they're positive
00:19:48
and they say to me, do I need to quarantine?
00:19:51
And I get very mad. I go, no, I go, you need to
00:19:53
isolate. I go the astronauts quarantine
00:19:55
when they got back from the moon in case they were exposed to
00:19:58
something. You're you're positive with
00:19:59
something, you need to isolate. Language is so important and we
00:20:03
talk about these things. In, in like 7 different
00:20:05
languages. You know, COVID is not, I
00:20:07
mentioned before COVID is not just negative or positive,
00:20:09
right? I'm going to explain a little
00:20:10
bit about COVID. We got to get, there's 27
00:20:13
proteins inside the, the capsicum inside the envelope of
00:20:16
COVID and what you're getting, you talk about natural immunity.
00:20:19
When you get COVID naturally, you're building what's called
00:20:21
B&T lymphocytes. That's your natural immunity to
00:20:24
COVID. What mutates is the spike
00:20:26
protein. It's like making a copy of a
00:20:28
copy of a copy of a copy. Eventually those copies burnout
00:20:31
and they become unrecognizable. Sometimes they develop this
00:20:34
weird shape on the outside. That's the spike protein
00:20:37
mutation that you're going to get sick from the next time you
00:20:40
get COVID and you have a reaction or at least memory
00:20:42
cells to the inside or the whole of that virus.
00:20:45
People still don't understand that.
00:20:47
They don't understand the difference between testing.
00:20:49
I have people come in my office and tell me they were positive
00:20:52
with COVID. I say, how do you know they go
00:20:53
rapid test? I wanna, I laughed in their
00:20:55
face. Of course I don't want to do
00:20:57
that. I want to be nice to our
00:20:58
patients. But you cannot diagnose COVID.
00:21:01
They rapid test. There's there's differences in
00:21:03
that. We don't wear masks in our
00:21:04
office. The first book goes through all
00:21:06
of this to explain COVID to people because they really have
00:21:10
to get a grasp on what we went through.
00:21:12
And again, it's not it's not outing Fauci.
00:21:14
It's not outing the government. But what it does is it puts the
00:21:17
data into perspective so that when you look at what was done
00:21:21
and you realize that they took this narrative and ran with it.
00:21:24
There was no need for lockdown, suicide rates going up, kids to
00:21:27
be out of school. There is no need for these
00:21:29
shots. I won't call them vaccinated
00:21:31
scenes because when you do to somebody who's 7080 or 90 years
00:21:34
old, they think lifetime immunity, inoculation, you get
00:21:37
120 days at best, an antibody response from these shots.
00:21:42
That's not doing anybody any good.
00:21:44
They actually make it worse for you in the long run.
00:21:46
So look, we can go down a million different roads and you
00:21:49
got to kind of pick a lane to figure it out.
00:21:52
The problem though, is that most people when it comes to COVID
00:21:55
have no clue. Well, let's do that.
00:21:59
Let's talk about that just for a minute, So.
00:22:01
Switch the camera to a. Different Oh, I'm sorry, I
00:22:03
didn't mean to do that. I meant to go to the other shot
00:22:06
here apologize. So let me ask you this doc, you
00:22:08
know, can you walk us through you?
00:22:10
You obviously are compiling and analyzing this a vast amount of
00:22:13
data and and that you've included that in both books.
00:22:16
There had to be what were the biggest challenges to give it
00:22:18
get some kind of uniformity that actually painted the true
00:22:21
picture of what was going on. Let's start.
00:22:23
With that, I mean, it's there, you know, the problem is getting
00:22:26
people to listen. The problem is, you know, you
00:22:28
have people on the left who automatically think that
00:22:30
anything, anytime we say anything on COVID, you know,
00:22:32
it's, it's got to be some, you know, fallacy.
00:22:35
And then you got people on the right on our side of the aisle
00:22:37
who will, who will pick a rabbit hole or they'll get a
00:22:40
confirmation bias. That's the worst thing that I
00:22:42
see when I'm trying to explain the data on COVID to somebody.
00:22:46
They will, they will have a confirmation bias that they've
00:22:49
discounted everything that you said now.
00:22:50
So it's really tough. We, I, I found that we, we got
00:22:53
so convoluted in the minutiae with this over the last five
00:22:57
years. I can't believe it's been over
00:22:59
five years now that people don't know what to believe anymore.
00:23:02
Now, if they understood how testing works and they
00:23:04
understood, you know, what a virus is, how it mutates, they
00:23:07
understood that there's other pathogens.
00:23:08
What we found in the data, I'll give you a little bit of the
00:23:10
data, 19 patients, 44 tests.
00:23:14
We did not lose 1 patient, OK? I only had four go to the
00:23:17
hospital. So, and you got to remember
00:23:18
these things happened in segments, right?
00:23:20
It wasn't all at one time. So if you had come to me a year
00:23:23
later when the shots came out and you said, Mike, do I need
00:23:25
this shot answer was always a laughable no.
00:23:28
Like no, I haven't lost anybody. Everybody's recovering in two to
00:23:31
three days. We got so good at doing COVID
00:23:33
testing and seeing patients that I could look at a family of
00:23:36
three and tell you what the recovery time was going to be.
00:23:38
I could look at the the husband who was in his mid 40s, a little
00:23:41
bit overweight and say, you're going to be about a week.
00:23:43
Look at the wife who was in a little better shape and say
00:23:45
you're going to be about 3 days and look at the 19 year old son
00:23:48
and say, you're going to be out running a mile tomorrow.
00:23:49
We got so good at looking at this and seeing it every day
00:23:52
because what you're doing is a thematic approach every day,
00:23:55
right? I still have people who will
00:23:56
come to me and say, you know, my wife had it really bad, but I
00:23:59
never got it. And I'll say, yes, she did.
00:24:01
And they'll say, no, I didn't. I'll say, yeah, I'll tell you.
00:24:03
And when I did a study of 441 home visits, what we found that
00:24:07
when someone had it in the house, it was symptomatic.
00:24:10
When we tested everybody in the house, 100% of the time,
00:24:14
everybody in the household had it, but only about 85 to 90% of
00:24:18
the time they would develop classic symptomology.
00:24:20
So what does that tell you? It actually begged the question
00:24:23
at one point when I was doing this to my immunologist and I
00:24:26
said to to Doctor Mishra, I said, I wonder how many
00:24:29
asymptomatic flus are walking around in the world?
00:24:32
Because when you don't realize we've never done this amount of
00:24:34
vast testing, right? All of a sudden at one time
00:24:38
everybody was allowed to test under the CARES Act.
00:24:40
So you'd have people coming in off the street sick,
00:24:42
asymptomatic. My perspective.
00:24:44
Also, you got to remember I was doing COPS departments, school
00:24:47
districts, nursing homes, assisted livings every week.
00:24:50
So a lot of times I would test the same 100 cops every
00:24:52
Wednesday for three straight years.
00:24:54
I have horizontal data, but not only do I know if they were
00:24:57
negative or positive, I have their CT value.
00:24:59
That's their viral load. I have if they had a coinfection
00:25:02
because the sickest of the sick, if you came in symptomatic, we
00:25:06
would run a panel on you and guess what we found?
00:25:08
We found that most of the time if you had classic symptoms, you
00:25:12
also had a coinfection. Usually it was staph.
00:25:14
I'll give you a perspective. I had a guy a couple couple
00:25:17
years ago who came in sick. We tested him with the panel.
00:25:20
He came back positive for COVID, staph, H flu, and RSV all the
00:25:24
same time. Now imagine the perspective.
00:25:26
Imagine if he went to Walgreens with a rapid test and came back
00:25:29
and said, Oh my God, COVID is the worst thing in the world.
00:25:31
No, he was sick from the RSV, the H flu and the staph, which
00:25:35
we could treat the H flu and the staph because those are both
00:25:39
bacterial infections. So you have to know what you're
00:25:40
treating, What we learned during COVID, when you heard all this,
00:25:43
these numbers come in COVID, this COVID positive COVID.
00:25:46
I can't tell you from somebody's myopic view.
00:25:49
When they come to me and tell me their perspective on COVID and
00:25:53
they say, I had this and I go, how do you know?
00:25:55
And they tell me I don't know what kind of test I had.
00:25:57
I said, what's your CT value? They don't know.
00:25:59
Did you have a Co infection? The answer is always, I don't
00:26:02
know. And I always tell that person,
00:26:03
your data wouldn't have even made it into my data set.
00:26:06
It would have skewed the numbers.
00:26:07
We know all of this information on every single patient and more
00:26:11
importantly, we called every patient every single night,
00:26:15
every positive we called and recorded.
00:26:17
There's symptomology. Nobody else in the country has
00:26:20
that. So when you put COVID together
00:26:22
in it's real perspective from the 30 foot view, it teaches
00:26:26
you a lot. Now look, we didn't know this
00:26:28
when we started recording the data.
00:26:30
I just came up with this is how we're going to look at it
00:26:32
because I knew that was important to understand it from
00:26:35
the 30 foot view. So within a week, 2 weeks, a
00:26:38
month, two months, we had enough data to say, hey, these
00:26:40
lockdowns aren't necessary. This is ridiculous.
00:26:43
And yes, every time we told somebody what we were seeing in
00:26:45
our own office, we got looked at as if we had four heads.
00:26:49
And they would always say to me, why are you the only person
00:26:51
talking about this? And I say, I there's a lot of us
00:26:54
out there, but we're getting shadow, shadow band and
00:26:55
censored. You know it's.
00:26:57
Clear in Fauci's fiction, you delved into a bunch of what I
00:27:00
would call the real science, right?
00:27:01
We've heard all things about real science online.
00:27:04
Mainstream media spun it what? What are the most striking
00:27:07
differences between the findings you came up from your data sets
00:27:11
and the information you got in real, obviously real world
00:27:14
consequences and real world side effects compared to the
00:27:17
information that was provided by the government?
00:27:19
What would you think in the mainstream media?
00:27:21
Of course, what do you think the biggest differences were side by
00:27:25
side in the top, maybe 3 or 4. It was it you?
00:27:28
You have to go back five years and and remember that it was
00:27:30
done in a, in a, you know, in a linear time frame, right,
00:27:33
Because it was every day you'd watch TV and you want to jump
00:27:37
through the television. I read about in the book where
00:27:39
there's one doctor on Fox. I won't mention her name.
00:27:41
I don't want to embarrass her, but he used to, you know, you'd
00:27:43
watch these talking heads over the years and some of you'd have
00:27:45
respect for there was one Doctor Who was out there saying, you
00:27:48
know, there's only 5000 breakthrough cases in the world
00:27:52
right now. People should run out and get
00:27:53
these shots. It's not that bad.
00:27:55
Meanwhile, I had five in my office that day.
00:27:57
The urgent care had three. So I had eight right in Key West
00:27:59
at the time that she's, you know, saying this on the on, on
00:28:02
air or on national TV. And I'm going to jump through
00:28:04
the the you know, my her through my car radio.
00:28:07
I want to jump through and round your neck.
00:28:08
I'm going you're you're giving people misinformation.
00:28:10
But that was every day. You know, you could go back to
00:28:13
the death counts on CNN and MSNBC.
00:28:15
Again, we went didn't have people dying.
00:28:17
You know, to to to go with to George was saying, and you know,
00:28:20
I I sympathize and empathize with your family member because
00:28:23
I saw this people were dying early from COVID for two
00:28:26
reasons. One, it was novel and, and, and
00:28:28
people didn't have that B&T lymphocyte response right off
00:28:31
the bat. So the first time you got it,
00:28:33
you're responding to all of the proteins inside COVID.
00:28:36
That's another conversation to go down with Fauci and Wuhan.
00:28:39
And was it released nefariously and did they engineer this thing
00:28:42
right? There's a whole conversation
00:28:43
there. But when you got it initially,
00:28:45
you probably got the sickest because you're responding to all
00:28:48
the proteins. Second reason why people died
00:28:50
early on was we didn't know how to treat it.
00:28:52
We were putting people on vents too early.
00:28:54
We were using flu protocol, which flared COVID up.
00:28:57
Within in a couple months, we realized better ways of treating
00:29:01
this thing. We weren't losing patients, but
00:29:03
at the same time it was simple stuff, Vitamin C, vitamin D,
00:29:06
zinc, pruning people that's turning them on their stomach to
00:29:08
let their lungs drain so they could breathe.
00:29:10
We were putting people on their backs and on vents.
00:29:13
Wrong way to treat somebody with a respiratory, but that's the
00:29:16
protocol. When you have somebody who's
00:29:17
going into, you know, pneumonia or when you have somebody whose
00:29:20
pulse ox is below like 74, that's the old protocol.
00:29:24
We've learned new ways to treat patients, but it's also
00:29:26
important to know exactly that they have.
00:29:28
We weren't doing that. We were doing that in our
00:29:30
office. I knew exactly what that patient
00:29:32
had. I knew exactly what we were
00:29:34
treating. So if you had a Co infection,
00:29:36
bacterial on top of the of COVID, we were also treating
00:29:40
that Co infection with an antibiotic.
00:29:42
But it's important to know most people were misdiagnosed during
00:29:45
COVID. They have no, if you had COVID
00:29:47
on a rapid test, you have no idea what you have.
00:29:49
A rapid test can come back positive for any coronavirus.
00:29:52
There are 7 we test for in the office.
00:29:54
So it's it's a blatant fallacy to to run out and get a a rapid
00:29:58
test and think you know what you're talking about.
00:29:59
Does a rapid test does that. Include PCR or is that the the
00:30:03
nasal I want to put? Up a test results I want the the
00:30:06
doc to look at it. I don't know if can you read
00:30:08
that if you need me to read it to you current result and.
00:30:11
Flag previous result and date. What it is showing here, it's a
00:30:15
it's a COVID test. Antibody test.
00:30:19
So antibody, all right, this is an antibody test, but it doesn't
00:30:22
charge. Is this your?
00:30:22
Antibody test, yes. Every lab value, every lab is
00:30:28
going to have different values. I can't see it right now, but
00:30:31
every lab is going to have different values and, and
00:30:33
antibody tests are different. I need to know if it's
00:30:35
IGGIGMIGA. I, I didn't see that on there
00:30:39
because that would tell me what, whether you had a current
00:30:42
infection, you had a previous infection.
00:30:43
It there's a lot of, we have, we did a lot of antibody testing in
00:30:46
our office as well, which also tells another story.
00:30:50
Well, I this was. I had, I had COVID.
00:30:52
I didn't know I had COVID. I was like, you see me now?
00:30:54
This is the way you see me. So he didn't have any.
00:30:59
Symptoms, yeah, and his antibodies had gone through the
00:31:03
roof and he'd been exposed to a lot of people that COVID 2300
00:31:05
my. Antibodies were, yeah, but the
00:31:07
lab values? Don't mean anything because
00:31:09
every lab is, has different values.
00:31:10
So you're, you know, you're looking at one boutique lab
00:31:12
versus, you know, Quest LabCorp, everybody's values are a little
00:31:15
bit slightly different than everybody else's values.
00:31:18
So you got to kind of know what you're looking at, but you also
00:31:20
need to know IG M or IGGIGAIGMIGA or IGGIGG would be
00:31:25
indicative of a previous infection.
00:31:27
IGA and Iigm would be indicative of a current infection.
00:31:30
In other words, if I would do an antibody test on somebody, we
00:31:33
did these for police departments and they would come back with
00:31:35
IGMI would have to then do a PDCR test to confirm that they
00:31:39
currently had COVID because IGA and IGN is indicative of a
00:31:42
current. In fact, it's a lot of science
00:31:44
stuff. When you put it all together, it
00:31:45
makes sense. But when you have this on
00:31:48
thousands of patients, it makes even more sense.
00:31:50
And that's why I get so annoyed with it's amazing that the
00:31:53
people that want to have a discussion on COVID that, like I
00:31:56
said, they're still on page one of the book.
00:31:58
And it's like, I really want to have the, the, the you want to
00:32:02
talk about Fauci, You want to talk about nefarious intent,
00:32:05
whether it comes to the shots, people need to get on the same
00:32:07
wavelength. It's, it's, it's kind of crazy
00:32:10
that like, you know, I think it's.
00:32:11
Complicated though, right? Because you look at even.
00:32:14
We're all media. We've had lots of sources and
00:32:16
lots of discussions with people, but even you mentioned the PCR
00:32:19
test. You know, there's lots of
00:32:20
theories out there that the PCR tests were dangerous.
00:32:23
I don't know if they really were.
00:32:24
I don't know that anybody ever published, dated to prove they
00:32:27
were or weren't. But there was lots of what I
00:32:29
would call sort alleged sources that said that it was.
00:32:33
You talk a lot about the 30 foot view and that's what's
00:32:35
complicated for people because they want the real information.
00:32:39
But let's face it, you know, one of the reasons, like I mentioned
00:32:42
before we came on set, the CDC and Vera's information we just
00:32:46
posted that we didn't even have these kind of discussions on
00:32:49
YouTube and of course YouTube, that was it.
00:32:51
That was the final suspension. We were done at the end of the
00:32:53
day. That's the difficulty.
00:32:54
What do you think people missed? A lot of people focused on, I
00:32:57
think, isolated data points and headlines.
00:32:59
What do you think one of the most important things they
00:33:01
missed Doc the the. Most important is the rabbit
00:33:04
hole that see that people seem to go down is this interview
00:33:07
with Carrie Mullis on PCR. And they always want to discount
00:33:10
it. So they'll they'll, they'll,
00:33:11
they'll, they'll get that confirmation bias and then
00:33:14
they'll discount everything. Fact is, PCR testing was used
00:33:17
long before COVID existed. We used it for just about
00:33:20
everything out there. If you have a reputable lab that
00:33:22
is going to cycle 36 and you can see the data, What's important
00:33:26
about the data is it's repeatable, right?
00:33:27
Repeatable data will tell you the story.
00:33:29
So in other words, the folks that tell you that PCR testing
00:33:32
doesn't work and you can find anything at any level, if you
00:33:36
gave me 100 patients in their hypothesis, you would find
00:33:39
something on all 100 patients. That's just not simply how it
00:33:42
works. When I test 100 cops and one of
00:33:44
them is positive and 99 are negative, I could repeat that
00:33:47
same data sequence the next day and I could repeat it on the
00:33:51
third day where the 99 who were negative are still negative and
00:33:54
the one who's positive is still positive.
00:33:56
So when you have repeatable data and you see it every single day,
00:33:59
you understand that PCR testing works very well.
00:34:02
Now, most of the people that you found that have something
00:34:06
because again, you don't test everybody at at flu season, You
00:34:09
don't you don't test the whole of the world.
00:34:11
These people who come to the doctor's office to test for the
00:34:13
flu, they have symptoms, they get sick and they want to know
00:34:16
what it is. But if you were testing
00:34:17
everybody in the winter at flu season in your area, you would
00:34:21
find that a lot of people had the flu, but most of them didn't
00:34:23
exhibit classic symptomology. We learned that by doing all
00:34:26
this mass testing during COVID, we can change the way we do
00:34:30
medicine moving into the future if we just talk about the data
00:34:33
and how it was analyzed. And but most doctors haven't
00:34:36
done that. They went right back to
00:34:37
practicing in the 18th century where they're just guessing at
00:34:40
things. I'm waiting for the leeches to
00:34:42
come back. It's kind of ridiculous,
00:34:43
actually. Well.
00:34:45
I think Pfizer is coming out with a Covad leach, aren't they?
00:34:48
Who knows? I.
00:34:48
Wouldn't doubt it. Listen, that that just chews
00:34:53
off. We're going to take a short
00:34:54
break. When we come back, we'll dig in
00:34:55
deeper. We're going to talk about
00:34:57
vaccine fiction, You guys. Stay tuned.
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What are we doing hanging them from the tree?
00:40:24
I'm good with all either. So, so you finished the first
00:40:28
book and and, and you decided to write your newest book, Vaccine
00:40:32
fiction. What kind was was that always
00:40:34
part of the plan to do a two-part series?
00:40:36
Or was it because you felt like maybe people still didn't grasp
00:40:41
what you tried to present in the first book?
00:40:42
Or maybe there was just new information you felt like you
00:40:44
had to cover? Yeah, a couple of reasons I.
00:40:46
Mean mostly it was the new information like we it.
00:40:48
When I finished Fouchies fiction, we had some preliminary
00:40:50
data on the vaccines, but not enough.
00:40:52
I hate to call them vaccines on the shots to to give you a, you
00:40:56
know, anecdotal stories of what we were seeing back from these
00:40:58
patients who were walking in saying I got an issue now.
00:41:01
But now that we have real data. And I also wanted to expound on
00:41:03
that. So I interviewed some really key
00:41:05
people. Doctor Jhansi Lindsay is
00:41:07
interviewed in the book. She talks about she's a
00:41:08
microbiologist and toxicologist. She actually tells you what's in
00:41:11
these shots. I interview Richard Hirschman,
00:41:14
you might know that name. He's an embalmer who was made
00:41:16
famous in the movie Die, of course.
00:41:18
Talk about that. 1. Article So Richard was great I
00:41:21
interview APA who was fired from a hospital in New York because
00:41:24
she was putting cases into theirs to explain what theirs is
00:41:28
because most of these media companies will pull numbers
00:41:31
right. They want to look at government
00:41:32
numbers. But when you understand that the
00:41:34
government numbers aren't exactly they're not they're not
00:41:37
accurate only about 1% and Harvard agrees with me 1% of
00:41:41
what's out there actually makes it into theirs.
00:41:43
So when you understand that you understand how the system works,
00:41:46
then you can understand how how this kind of got away from
00:41:49
everybody you know and it's funny there's so many I'm
00:41:52
reading your chat. I was looking at what are, what
00:41:54
are your, what are your, one of your guests in the chat, your
00:41:56
viewers was saying, oh, you know, they, the PCR test, they
00:41:59
make you sick from what's on the spot.
00:42:01
That's just blatant a fallacy. And you know, it's, it's, it's
00:42:03
amazing when I get people that want to come and say things
00:42:06
about testing or how things work.
00:42:08
I always ask them, what do you do for a living because you
00:42:10
didn't have 19 patients and do this everyday and work with
00:42:13
these labs everyday and these patients.
00:42:15
It, it's, it's, it's amazing to me how people want to go down
00:42:18
these rabbit holes. So the second book was also
00:42:20
necessary to kind of finish the story.
00:42:23
And now that I'm done, I, I am done.
00:42:25
This is my last work on Covad, my new books coming out next
00:42:28
month. It's on politics.
00:42:29
And we're going to, we're going to transition out of I don't
00:42:31
want to be the Covic guy forever, even though this was,
00:42:34
you know, huge part of our life. You know, it's, it's difficult,
00:42:39
right, because you know, in the data that you've collected,
00:42:42
you've become an expert and you've got more details than
00:42:46
many people that have been on this show.
00:42:48
You know, you're now you're exploring the long term impacts,
00:42:51
you know, of the efficacy of COVID vaccines, which I think of
00:42:54
course lots of people are, are questioning what are, let me ask
00:42:58
you this. What are some of the most
00:42:59
significant findings, you know, from your research on vaccine
00:43:02
rollouts and the boosters and maybe even go into some details?
00:43:06
Did you find that some of them were worse than others?
00:43:08
Is the Johnson and Johnson, was that more likely to cause less
00:43:12
side effects than the Pfizer? And was it the first shot or was
00:43:16
it the third booster? You know, they wanted us to take
00:43:18
a booster every 15 minutes. You know that the advertising
00:43:21
said we had to have 65 boosters to be, to be safe.
00:43:25
And of course, you, you, you, you.
00:43:28
You kind of touched on it when you said I hate to call it a
00:43:30
vaccine. I think the courts agree with
00:43:32
you. We had that ruling that they
00:43:34
said you can't call it a vaccine because it's not a vaccine.
00:43:37
So what are your thoughts? Well, it doesn't work.
00:43:39
Like a traditional vaccine, you see when you say the word when
00:43:42
when people want to argue with guys like me or RFK and they and
00:43:46
they throw out the vaccine, anti vaccine, I know immediately they
00:43:49
don't know what they're talking about.
00:43:50
You're talking about multiple different types of technology,
00:43:52
right? You start off with live
00:43:54
attenuated. That's what the polio vaccine is
00:43:56
based on something we've used for years.
00:43:58
Not saying there isn't problems there.
00:44:00
There's definitely problems with those types of shots, but not
00:44:03
nearly what you see with the mRNA.
00:44:05
There's subunit, there's a viral vector.
00:44:07
J&J is viral vector. It was the one and done.
00:44:11
And the analogy is a couple things.
00:44:13
One is I told you before, if you had come to me a year into
00:44:17
testing and treating and said, do I need this shot, the answer
00:44:20
was always a laughable no. No, I didn't lose a patient.
00:44:23
So we didn't recommend the shot for two reasons.
00:44:25
One, it doesn't work, OK, you get 128 antibody response, and
00:44:29
two, you didn't need it. It just doesn't make any sense.
00:44:31
So the risk versus reward profile didn't make any sense
00:44:34
when you saw them roll out and you see the differences.
00:44:37
And when you look at the data, yeah, we see massive issues with
00:44:41
mRNA. Now, Doctor Jhansi Lindsay says
00:44:43
in my book, she says that the ones that were in the most
00:44:45
purest form did the worst damage.
00:44:48
The ones that were in the most purest the form were the
00:44:50
Pfizer's. Now Pfizer is kept at and
00:44:53
freezers that were 70 below the modern is where things that we
00:44:56
had in our office, you would take them in and out of the
00:44:58
freezer and get a little bit muddy down.
00:45:00
What Doctor Jansi Lindsay describes is that when they get
00:45:03
muddy down, they do less damage. The ones that were designed and
00:45:07
kept in their purest form do the worst.
00:45:08
And when you look at the charts, I know it's going to be tough to
00:45:10
see on the on the show. I put a lot of charts in my book
00:45:13
in this one because I wanted to exemplify what people were
00:45:17
seeing and it's going to be tough to see.
00:45:19
So I probably won't even hold it up.
00:45:20
But when you look at the numbers, Pfizer takes the cake
00:45:23
out of all the shots. Now, most people had gotten a
00:45:25
lot of Pfizer's as far as J&J, when you see the numbers in J&J,
00:45:29
they're like down here compared to Pfizer.
00:45:31
So it was always Pfizer, then Moderna, then J&J.
00:45:34
And one of the interesting things I found in here is that
00:45:36
Nova Facts came out with a live attenuated version that's older
00:45:40
technology and you see almost zero issues with that
00:45:44
technology. Even though you don't need this
00:45:46
thing. Again, lowest common
00:45:48
denominator, they don't work and you don't need it.
00:45:50
So you still want the shot. The answer is always, again,
00:45:53
serious. Yeah, no, you don't need it.
00:45:54
They don't work. But when you look at the ones
00:45:57
who got the shots, Pfizer takes the cake, then Moderna, then
00:46:00
J&J, and at the very bottom is Novavax with older technology
00:46:03
that doesn't seem to 'cause these issues.
00:46:05
So when you look at that data and you understand it, you
00:46:08
basically come to realize that mRNA technology wasn't ready for
00:46:12
prime time. It should have never been rolled
00:46:14
out on the mass of the public because you know, when it when
00:46:17
it comes to looking at things like cancer targeting things, if
00:46:21
you're in a situation where who have cancer and all of a sudden
00:46:24
we can develop an mRNA shot that's going to target those
00:46:28
cancer cells. Well, then risk versus reward
00:46:31
might make sense to try the therapy at that point.
00:46:34
If you're going to die of cancer anyway, it might make sense.
00:46:36
But all of these people weren't going to die from COVID.
00:46:39
We knew that right off the bat when that death count was on CNN
00:46:42
and MSNBC. Don't get me around.
00:46:43
Fox had it up there for a while too.
00:46:45
You know, we're thinking, wow, this is just they're playing
00:46:48
this thing all wrong. They're scaring the elderly.
00:46:51
They're scaring people like my mom, who was washing her
00:46:54
groceries and not going out. And I, I hold Doctor Fauci
00:46:57
responsible for that because my mom passed away last year and my
00:47:01
dad died the year before when I was writing my first book.
00:47:03
Now my dad's death, if you look at the complications, you look
00:47:06
at the autopsy report, it's very indicative of what we see from
00:47:09
vaccine injury. My mom, I can't say that about,
00:47:12
but I can tell you that they took enough time away with my
00:47:15
parents that I will never get back.
00:47:17
They took all the time that they didn't want to see us because of
00:47:19
the masking and the washing and the social distancing that we
00:47:22
didn't need eat from this ridiculous narrative that
00:47:24
happened during an election season.
00:47:26
I don't go there in my book, but I'll say it now.
00:47:28
That's time I will never get back.
00:47:30
And there's a lot of people in the world who, who, who don't
00:47:33
have that kind of time. My, my, my friend Mike wasn't
00:47:36
allowed to go to his father's funeral because of the draconian
00:47:39
restrictions in New Jersey about getting together.
00:47:42
I could tell you that I watched more 90 year old birthdays
00:47:45
through windows when I was doing nursing homes because they
00:47:48
weren't allowed to see their family.
00:47:50
So you'd watch Mildred. I'm making up a name here.
00:47:52
Looking out. Died his family out in the cold
00:47:54
with a cake. Happy 90th birthday.
00:47:56
And then Mildred would die six months later from loneliness and
00:47:59
depression. Surviving COVID.
00:48:01
I watched COVID people in nursing homes survive the COVID
00:48:04
pandemic just to get shot up and vaccinated.
00:48:08
And all of a sudden, two weeks, within two weeks of the shots,
00:48:11
yeah, I had 6 patients stroke out in one of my nursing homes.
00:48:13
I mean, you could see the cause and correlation at every single
00:48:17
level. But this is what we weren't
00:48:19
talking about in the media. You know.
00:48:23
Of course we've heard all those stories.
00:48:25
We've seen it on social media. Altmeda did a very good job of
00:48:28
publicizing this where the, the grandparents are hugging the
00:48:31
grandchild with, you know, through a plastic tent with arms
00:48:35
as if they, you know, if they've, they've, they've
00:48:37
contacted something much more severe.
00:48:40
You know, they, they separated families.
00:48:42
They did so many wrong things to now we've got a blanket pardon,
00:48:45
a pre emptive blanket pardon. And it supposedly takes a window
00:48:49
of life and says, hey, don't worry about it.
00:48:53
Here's your get out of free jail card, even though you probably
00:48:55
are responsible for more deaths in the United States than any
00:48:58
other single kinetic event, Doctor Fauci.
00:49:01
But we're going to give you a pass when you when you heard
00:49:03
about that, that pardon and maybe the other ones bothered
00:49:07
you. Of course, there were there were
00:49:08
people in that list, you know, the the JCS committee, Millie
00:49:11
and others that I have to be honest, I got really angry
00:49:15
because I thought, here's one more F you from Joe Biden, one
00:49:18
more, you know, screwing of the American public.
00:49:21
How did you feel about the pardon for Fauci?
00:49:24
Of course I'm upset. But I mean, it was expected.
00:49:26
We talked about this, I talked about some of my show everyday
00:49:28
and we were sitting there going, all right, well, it's going to
00:49:30
see what's coming out the door, the, you know, the door at the
00:49:32
12th, 11th hour here. And we expected it.
00:49:35
We kind of expected it. If he didn't, if he didn't do
00:49:38
it, I would have been surprised. Let's put it that way.
00:49:39
Because you know, when you expose, when you expose Fauci
00:49:43
and you expose Millie and you expose the J6 committee, who's
00:49:46
now burned all their files or deleted all their files, you
00:49:49
expose, you expose Biden. You know, what they did in this
00:49:53
administration was they just, they had a media that would run
00:49:57
cover for them and continue to tout the narrative.
00:49:59
So, you know, Biden had to do what he had to do.
00:50:02
I, I hope we can find ways at the state level, AGS like Ken
00:50:06
Paxton and things like that to go after guys like Fauci because
00:50:11
they are responsible for a lot of deaths, not just, you know,
00:50:13
from the shots, but what we just talked about the loneliness
00:50:16
factor, the separation of families.
00:50:18
Because if I knew what I knew, Lance, if I knew what I knew as
00:50:22
early as I did, how early did Fauci know it?
00:50:25
Did he did he deliberately not want to listen to people like us
00:50:29
because he was involved in this funding of gain of function in
00:50:32
Wuhan? Did he, did he say, oh crap, now
00:50:35
I got to have everybody look the other way and run cover?
00:50:37
I think that's exactly what he did.
00:50:39
I think those of us who understand the science and you
00:50:42
had a guy, you had a doctor working at the the head of
00:50:45
allergy and infectious disease giving you anti science.
00:50:48
We don't wear masks for viruses. We know they're free floating at
00:50:51
anything less than .25 Micron. We know a mask isn't going to
00:50:54
protect you. We we know we can go down the
00:50:57
list of all the draconian measures that this guy went
00:51:00
along with and most people are in his circle continue to tout.
00:51:04
So we can go a million directions.
00:51:06
Go ahead. Well, it leads.
00:51:07
To me where where I was taking this, we were talking backstage
00:51:10
just for the audience. And the audience knows on this
00:51:14
show that we believe that the DOJ is fully compromised.
00:51:18
We know that Trump's cleaning it out now, but there are there's
00:51:22
no oversight. So the DOJ has been fully
00:51:25
weaponized. We've talked about many times
00:51:27
how the groups that do oversight that you could actually report
00:51:31
an infraction to, it's just the fox is watching the, you know,
00:51:34
watching the hen house. Because the OPR Office of
00:51:37
Professional Responsibility, it's a DOJ department.
00:51:39
Penn, the public integrity sector or public integrity
00:51:42
division. They don't like to be called
00:51:44
piss, but you report to them, they're not going to do
00:51:46
anything. Civil Rights division and of
00:51:49
course the OIG itself all compromised.
00:51:52
We've seen them violate the law across the United States.
00:51:55
You felt that weaponization of the DOJ first hand and you're
00:51:59
still dealing with it. I know you haven't talked about
00:52:02
this on a show before, but I know our audience would like to
00:52:04
hear it. I don't know how much of it you
00:52:05
want to share, but I think it's important for you to take the
00:52:08
time and we're going to turn this into some short form
00:52:10
content, try to get into the right hands of the right people
00:52:13
because it's not right, because you truthfully have the data to
00:52:18
back up everything that you've published in your books.
00:52:21
I don't know how they could take a look at you and think this
00:52:24
guy's got data sets from 19 patients.
00:52:27
You'd have to think the accuracy of the information he's putting
00:52:29
out. So do you want to explain to the
00:52:31
audience kind of how that started, why they came Matthew
00:52:34
and what their strategy appears to be as they're just screwing
00:52:37
with you, screwing with somebody that's trying to tell the truth?
00:52:40
As usual, I I got a lot of. You know, friends, lawyers,
00:52:43
advisors in my life that I go to with different things.
00:52:46
And when I was about to release this book, one of them had said
00:52:49
to me, just know that they're going to come for you when you
00:52:53
publish this. And I kind of went out, you
00:52:55
know, I mean, I get the censorship, but really you're
00:52:57
going to come for little old me. And then I started doing some
00:53:00
television. I started doing radio podcasts
00:53:03
for the book. And within a couple months of
00:53:06
releasing it, all of a sudden one of my one of my one of my
00:53:09
practitioners got a subpoena. Lo and behold, they had one for
00:53:12
me too. They just couldn't find me.
00:53:14
I don't know how they couldn't find me.
00:53:15
I'm pretty easily found. Everybody.
00:53:17
I'm all my fans can find me. And the DOJ couldn't find me.
00:53:19
They're going to old addresses. But I kind of knew it was
00:53:22
coming. And then when I got my subpoena,
00:53:24
I went back to those advisors and of course, the first thing
00:53:27
they said was this, 'cause you released that damn book.
00:53:29
And I was like, all right, well, these are the consequences.
00:53:31
Like what now? And it's interesting in the way
00:53:34
they come after you, Lance. They don't do it.
00:53:36
It's not criminal. They came after me civilly.
00:53:39
So what they do and what they did to me was they serve me with
00:53:42
A50 page subpoena, which you can't understand unless you're
00:53:45
an attorney. And I don't really speak
00:53:46
legalese just as much as they don't speak medicine.
00:53:49
So I went out and hired a civil rights attorney because I felt
00:53:52
like my rights are being violated.
00:53:53
They're sitting there asking for bank statements, they're asking
00:53:56
for phone records, they're asking for text messages.
00:53:59
And not my first impression was, wait a minute, can they can they
00:54:01
just blanketly ask me for all this stuff?
00:54:03
And my attorney says, yeah, because they're doing it in a
00:54:06
civil matter. They're trying to now look at
00:54:08
all the work you did during COVID and see if there's
00:54:11
anything nefarious you did, see if there's any improprieties in,
00:54:14
in, in under stark law and sunshine, all this.
00:54:17
So I'm like, are you serious? So, you know, my first, you
00:54:20
know, my first interaction with the DOJ was basically spending a
00:54:25
crapload of money on attorneys that I don't have to now defend
00:54:29
myself, considering that all they're doing is to looking for
00:54:32
something. I, it's amazing to me in a
00:54:34
country where you think you're free, where unless you have, you
00:54:37
know, you want to charge me, charge me, but there's nothing
00:54:40
to charge me for. We did nothing wrong during this
00:54:42
entire exercise. As a matter of fact, we've lost
00:54:45
hundreds of thousands of dollars because all the testing that we
00:54:47
did for them, they promised us they would pay us for the
00:54:50
uninsured and underinsured. Well, guess what?
00:54:52
At some point during all of this that was going on, they said the
00:54:55
CARES Act ran out of money, do not submit any more claims.
00:54:59
So we're stuck now in the hole with no money from the
00:55:02
government, which they write fully OS.
00:55:04
And now I've got to answer subpoenas.
00:55:06
Now that just didn't stop with me.
00:55:07
They sent it to every single doctor we've worked with in our
00:55:09
group. They sent it to every single
00:55:11
employee in our group. And they've sent it to every lab
00:55:14
that we worked with. Trying to really shake the tree
00:55:16
here just I guess scare you or make you feel like, you know,
00:55:19
what do I need to do it? All it's done is upset myself,
00:55:23
my wife. I've talked about it a little
00:55:25
bit on my show since Trump won because I feel a little bit more
00:55:28
confident that I can talk about it with good people.
00:55:31
But most people think, oh, that Trump won, this is just going to
00:55:34
go away. It hasn't because these lawyers
00:55:36
have now doubled down at the DOJ trying to act like it's only
00:55:39
been a week, but they're still coming because I guess they want
00:55:42
to justify their job. So every bit of work they did in
00:55:45
the last two years they have to justify now.
00:55:47
Yeah, and I think you've just nailed it.
00:55:49
It's job security. We, you know, Georgia and you
00:55:52
can comment law fair. The the first step of law fair
00:55:56
is to inundate the target. And of course, when when they go
00:56:01
on these fishing expeditions with A50 page subpoena and they
00:56:04
ask you for everything for the color of your underwear right
00:56:07
through whether or not you ever frequented a certain bar or what
00:56:11
kind of a vehicle you drive. And you know, did you write off
00:56:13
the miles as an example on your way to work?
00:56:16
You know, that's part of it because they've got to drain
00:56:18
your resources, what they want to do and what they do with
00:56:21
many. They did it to General Michael
00:56:23
Flynn. They did it to Rodger Stone.
00:56:25
Of course those were criminal, but it doesn't matter the, the
00:56:28
because they they have an unrestricted budget and they
00:56:32
also have an obligation when they start a case federal, you
00:56:36
know, criminal or civil. And they talked to their boss
00:56:39
and they said, well, what do you think it's going to take to go
00:56:42
after Doctor Michael Schwartz? They look at your tax returns
00:56:44
sometimes preemptively to decide how deep your pockets are and
00:56:49
try to figure out what it would take to drain you of your
00:56:52
resources because you'll get to a point where they say, well,
00:56:55
look, we're willing to sweep this under the rug, but we want
00:56:57
you to this is your civil assessment.
00:57:00
Or, hey, we're thinking about taking this criminal because we
00:57:03
think that you operated without a medical license in these
00:57:06
areas. Whatever they come up with,
00:57:07
whatever bunch, the garbage they come up with, but that's it.
00:57:10
Because they've got to hope that you don't have the money when
00:57:13
that time comes or that they force you into selling your home
00:57:16
or selling your, you know, your, your I, your IRA funds or your,
00:57:20
your, your retirement accounts. Because that's what they do.
00:57:23
They try to drain you. Because of course, when a
00:57:25
prosecutor working for the DOJ decides they're going to
00:57:28
weaponize that institution against somebody, they, they
00:57:32
have an unlimited reserve and, and they, and they, since
00:57:34
there's no oversight, there's nobody really doing oversight
00:57:38
over the Department of Justice. They claim there is.
00:57:41
But I guarantee you this, if you found out that they were, that
00:57:45
you found out there was some kind of prosecutorial misconduct
00:57:48
in some manner and you attempted to go online and report it to
00:57:52
the OPR as an example, the first thing you would get back is a
00:57:54
response. And even though you're talking
00:57:57
about a federal prosecutor and you're talking about the
00:57:58
District of New Jersey or whatever, whoever's doing this,
00:58:02
whether it's coming out of New York or DC or wherever, they
00:58:05
would say, oh, well, this isn't a federal case.
00:58:07
We don't have oversight. That's almost their standard
00:58:09
operating. Even though you might have given
00:58:10
the names of the federal prosecutors, given the
00:58:13
addresses, they'll kick it back that that that's the same thing
00:58:16
they do with the Civil Rights Division.
00:58:17
Pen and if you go to the the Bar Association and say I believe
00:58:21
I'm being targeted, the Bar Association in New Jersey will
00:58:24
tell you that we we don't have any investigative budget.
00:58:29
You have to bring it to us in a nice, you know, wrapped with a
00:58:32
bow. Perfect.
00:58:33
Here's what the guy did. Here's a copy of his text
00:58:35
messages, things that you would never, ever have access to.
00:58:39
And that's the disgusting part about this system.
00:58:42
I think what's important is for us to try to, and we'll, we'll
00:58:45
try to help you with this, Mike. We'll try to get you some optics
00:58:48
on it. You know, we've got some
00:58:49
important meetings coming up because I believe the DOJ is a
00:58:52
weaponized institution that needs to be taken to its knees.
00:58:55
They use a thing called absolute immunity.
00:58:58
And in my opinion, the only person that has absolute
00:59:00
immunity is God. Beyond that, when you start
00:59:02
talking about qualified immunity and absolute immunity, they
00:59:05
operate as if they're untouchable.
00:59:08
And I think that garbage needs to go out the window.
00:59:10
I've had enough of it to the point that even you go through
00:59:13
this process and let's say you're exonerated, you should be
00:59:16
able to in a civil action, of course, you should be able to
00:59:19
get all your your court assessments and your legal fees
00:59:21
returned. But they won't do that.
00:59:23
Even if you were going to try to go down that road, they're going
00:59:27
to say to you, well, you have to file a tort claim.
00:59:30
Now, a tort claim doesn't work like a normal civil claim.
00:59:33
If you want to sue George because he wronged you, he
00:59:35
punches you in the nose. You got an injury.
00:59:38
Yeah. George is smiling.
00:59:39
He punches you in the nose. You now have a medical injury.
00:59:42
You have medical bills. You had to get plastic surgery.
00:59:44
You have the equity portion of it.
00:59:46
What you're saying this is what it cost me?
00:59:47
I'm also now I have some, you know, some side effects from it
00:59:51
where I'm nervous because I didn't see George when he came
00:59:53
to me. And now I'm.
00:59:54
I'm, I'm not operating well in public.
00:59:55
Of course, you get punitive compensatory damages.
00:59:57
In this case, you have to ask if you can file a tort claim.
01:00:00
And in 95 or 98% of those times, the government will tell you no.
01:00:05
Now, you can go ahead and continue to file, but the first
01:00:07
thing that will come back from the judge when you presented,
01:00:09
well, you were already told that you don't qualify for a tort
01:00:12
claim. Now you think about it, not only
01:00:15
do you have to ask for the oversight, it's ridiculous.
01:00:18
So the the the plan is to drain. You know, Doctor Michael
01:00:22
Schwartz of his resources so that when they come to you at
01:00:25
the tail end of it and say, well, we think you did this,
01:00:27
this and this, it could go criminal.
01:00:29
That'll be the next statement. This could go criminal.
01:00:31
But Mike, we're going to take it easy on you.
01:00:33
We just want this kind of a civil judgement.
01:00:34
At that point, you're like, well, you guys took all my
01:00:37
money. I spent it on millions of
01:00:38
dollars on lawyers, right? You know, what do I do at this
01:00:41
point? And that's the disgusting nature
01:00:43
of it because here's a guy that I see that's done the homework.
01:00:47
You did the work, you've saved the data.
01:00:50
You know, you, you can see that you're, you're very organized in
01:00:52
the way that you presented these books.
01:00:53
I looked at a lot of reviews online and people's perception
01:00:56
of the books, you know, before I did the interview, you know,
01:00:59
there, the transparency of the way you operate is very clear.
01:01:04
But they don't like what you did because in fact you exposed the
01:01:07
truth. How do they shut you up?
01:01:10
They pull AJ6 on you. It's a feds erection.
01:01:12
But this is a meds erection right?
01:01:14
It's, it's look, I've been involved in politics all my
01:01:17
life. I've also consulted and run on,
01:01:19
you know, 45 different campaigns, worked on three
01:01:21
presidentials. I'm outspoken.
01:01:23
I'm on my show every morning. I'm on my show at night.
01:01:25
But we talk about this stuff. They might not be happy, you
01:01:28
know, but that's not a reason to go after somebody.
01:01:30
You know, we, we basically, we were trying to save the whole of
01:01:33
humanity in the first couple months to this.
01:01:35
We were trying to save everybody from those lockdowns.
01:01:38
So that's it's kind of a slap in the face to not only not get
01:01:40
paid for it, but doesn't have the government come after you.
01:01:43
And my, and my attorney and I, we've talked.
01:01:45
I mean, we know, look, we've done nothing wrong.
01:01:47
My attorney sees this as a fishing expedition.
01:01:50
They won't tell you that, you know, even though you kind of
01:01:52
know you're the target, they don't tell you that.
01:01:54
I had an MP quit over this. She was at the end of her career
01:01:57
anyway. But you know, sometimes people
01:01:59
see DOJ and A50 page subpoena and they go and they get scared.
01:02:03
So I had somebody quit over it, didn't want a discussion.
01:02:07
Just figured, Oh my, there must be something wrong if the, so
01:02:09
this is what they do. We have labs that that we used
01:02:12
to work with and had great relationships.
01:02:14
They've gotten served with subpoenas.
01:02:15
We haven't had conversations. These are people I've worked
01:02:18
with for years now. We don't talk anymore because
01:02:21
everybody's nervous that the DOJ is looking at, you know, what
01:02:24
are they trying to find? That's kind of the, the, you
01:02:26
know, the mantra. So we know we're in the clear.
01:02:29
I even told my attorneys to look, you know, I've got a legal
01:02:32
defense fund up now, which nobody cares, nobody donates.
01:02:35
And like I said, even the people on our side, they go, it's going
01:02:38
to blow over, Blow over. I still owe my lawyer thousands
01:02:41
of dollars. You know, we're in the hole for
01:02:43
thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars that I
01:02:45
don't have just because they decided that they wanted to
01:02:48
screw with me. I'm hoping that the DOJ gets an
01:02:51
overhaul. But I mean, you, you need a
01:02:53
serious overhaul. I I had Congressman Buddy Carter
01:02:56
on my show last week and I was talking about this briefly.
01:02:59
And he goes with you. He goes, look what they did to
01:03:01
Trump. I go, yeah, at least Trump could
01:03:02
afford the legal fees. He's got people that back him
01:03:05
up. True, But he's got a.
01:03:06
Lot of people that couldn't couldn't look for the legal fees
01:03:09
there in a hole. But I would like let me touch on
01:03:10
something anything. You can't believe the
01:03:12
government, but the only way to help to get your cause is it's
01:03:15
who you know it's not what you know and you know between Lance
01:03:19
and myself and other people we know people we can get your your
01:03:22
paperwork to them and hopefully get a kibosh who knows.
01:03:25
But you have to give time for the DOJ for look, we have to
01:03:29
get, we're still waiting for cash Patel to get to be put in
01:03:34
as FBI. You know, the AG Pam Bondi, she
01:03:37
just got in there. It's only like you said, it's
01:03:39
only been five days. But look what today just
01:03:40
happened in our own state. Everybody was freaking out over
01:03:44
those people, a lot of people freaking out over the drones.
01:03:46
And turns out that the Biden FAFAA authorized those drones.
01:03:50
But yet they, they didn't want to tell nobody.
01:03:52
They want to just let people be in, in Pananovia, say all this,
01:03:56
this and that, but this is the way they operate.
01:03:58
But hey, Mike, I've got a. Question, George.
01:04:02
You know one person that might also be able to get him some
01:04:04
traction. Do you know Mike Crispy?
01:04:06
Yeah, Yeah, I do. Yeah.
01:04:09
Have you have you talked? To him about trying to get you
01:04:11
in front of the right people, I haven't.
01:04:13
I I've been around a little bit longer than Mike Crispy.
01:04:15
I don't know. I know of him.
01:04:16
I have friends that know him. My Co host knows him pretty
01:04:19
well, but you know, I, I, I've look, I, I've talked to some of
01:04:22
the people at the Trump team about this.
01:04:23
They actually knew the prosecutor's name right off the
01:04:25
bat because that he apparently he's been screwing with them
01:04:28
too. So like there's people that kind
01:04:30
of know, but you know, I'm not a priority on the list.
01:04:32
You know, I'm just a little old me, you know, and everybody's
01:04:35
got other issues to deal with, but you know, it's you you
01:04:37
mentioned these people. I've been in the game for a long
01:04:39
time. I, I, I've run, I've worked on
01:04:42
congressional, I've worked on U.S.
01:04:44
Senate campaigns, presidential campaigns.
01:04:46
I got and and I'm not trying to correct you, George, but I
01:04:49
always just saying that I always use and I tell my stepson, it's
01:04:52
not who you know, it's who knows you.
01:04:54
And and unfortunately, you know, enough people know who I am and
01:04:58
my integrity and my character for many years in the career.
01:05:00
But when I released a book, other people I didn't really
01:05:03
necessarily want to know who I was started to take aim at me.
01:05:07
And you know, those people might not know my character in my
01:05:09
resolve, but I'm a very principled person.
01:05:11
I will ride this out. You want to file charges, file
01:05:14
charges. I will.
01:05:14
I will go to jail if I have to, if I can't afford legal fees
01:05:18
because I'm a principal person. I'm not going to sit here and
01:05:21
just take it because you decided to screw with me.
01:05:24
It's just not right. And now I feel more comfortable
01:05:26
talking about it because Donald Trump is in office and the right
01:05:30
people are coming. But you saw today they had a
01:05:32
fire, what, a dozen attorneys that worked with Jack Smith.
01:05:35
They just weren't automatically fired.
01:05:37
There's another hundreds and dozens of attorneys like that
01:05:41
that we just haven't gotten to yet because it's going to take
01:05:44
some time. Don't forget the judges, too.
01:05:46
Yeah, and let. Me say this, I mean, and I, I, I
01:05:50
agree with what you're saying. What I think is disgusting is
01:05:52
that who makes Doctor Schwartz hole.
01:05:56
You go through this and even if you're exonerated, I, I, you
01:05:59
know, and not that I'm picking on your attorney, but I love how
01:06:01
they say, oh, it's just a fishing exposition.
01:06:03
It'll be fine. It's going to blow over.
01:06:05
Yeah, of course. Why they're billing you .15 walk
01:06:09
to the water cooler to call the client .20 called client.
01:06:12
He didn't answer the phone. You know, I mean, we've been
01:06:16
through that. I know the process and there
01:06:18
really isn't any way to get made whole.
01:06:20
Just like you talked about, they were supposed to be paying you
01:06:22
for all the testing and if you put a number and potentially
01:06:26
what the federal government should have paid you because
01:06:29
they promised you they would. How how big is that number,
01:06:32
Doctor Schwartz? How big is it?
01:06:33
Pretty it's pretty bad. I'll.
01:06:34
Tell you all of the the thousands and thousands of tests
01:06:37
that we did for free for uninsured and underinsured, we
01:06:39
got paid under $10. How much do you think?
01:06:43
The real number is they probably.
01:06:45
It's probably in the neighborhood of a quarter
01:06:47
$1 that they still owe us.
01:06:49
And, and, and that's a big, big number.
01:06:52
And my point is that's the problem because really what
01:06:56
should happen is you counter suing them civilly for the
01:06:59
quarter $1 they owe you within this case.
01:07:02
My thing would be to do, you know, reverse discovery.
01:07:04
Also my thing would be to, you know, request that the court
01:07:08
appoint a special master because you think that they've created a
01:07:11
fishing expedition. You've got all your IS dotted
01:07:14
and your T's crossed and you'd like an independent third party
01:07:17
to review what's going on. And they don't like that, that
01:07:20
they don't like. And I think what's important at
01:07:22
this point now that Trump's in is for you to get extremely
01:07:24
vocal of the way they're coming after you.
01:07:26
Because if you don't sign, you know, shine some sunlight on it.
01:07:30
I, I know, I know how this DOLJ operates.
01:07:33
And and a lot of people don't know George and I are working on
01:07:36
a bunch of stuff behind the scenes because this DOJ is
01:07:39
guilty of maybe the largest constitutional violation in U.S.
01:07:43
history that is get swept under the rug.
01:07:45
A thing called Securus Technologies where they've been
01:07:47
eavesdropping on pretrial defense defendants and post
01:07:50
conviction defendants phone calls since 2006.
01:07:54
I'm going to get that in front of Pan Bondi and many others
01:07:57
because I don't like it. I think it's disgusting and I
01:07:59
think it's disgusting when somebody like you gets attacked
01:08:02
because that's what it is. It's a weaponization and it's
01:08:05
not right. Because at the end of the day,
01:08:07
the question is if you have 100 thousand 300, you
01:08:11
know, General Flynn, George, what's the number General Flynn
01:08:14
had in his legal 8 million or 11?
01:08:16
I always get confused. He was. 8 million in a hole from
01:08:18
that BS million in the. Hole after he'd sold his family
01:08:22
home and drained his accounts before he started his
01:08:26
documentary. Hopefully now he's been made
01:08:28
more hole, but it's disgusting. Somebody I I want to know about
01:08:30
The Dirty 51, and this is no different than that.
01:08:33
I don't care what the class is when you talk about this
01:08:35
weaponization. I don't care whether we're
01:08:37
talking criminal. I don't care if we're talking
01:08:38
about The Dirty 51 + 8. I don't care whether or not
01:08:41
you're talking about the J Sixers.
01:08:42
All those people have suffered the consequences because in your
01:08:45
case, the reputational damage. If I was your attorney, if I was
01:08:51
your attorney, I would be counterclaiming them right now
01:08:54
for the reputational damage. But there's no claim.
01:08:57
So there's nothing to counterclaim yet because now
01:08:59
it's they're still in the fishing expedition of hey, we
01:09:02
need these text messages with metadata.
01:09:04
Then you send over what you want and you send them over
01:09:06
everything and they go, we don't like the way you send it.
01:09:08
We want it all a different way. Here's a program to do it and we
01:09:11
want it all by tomorrow. And the business meanwhile,
01:09:14
you're trying to run at your life.
01:09:15
These they're the most ridiculous, unrespectful, demand
01:09:18
commanding people. They always forget that they
01:09:20
work for us. I think they forgot that a long
01:09:22
time ago when they got into government.
01:09:24
Absolutely. I'm a I'm a big proponent of
01:09:26
government of the people by other people, for other people.
01:09:28
I used to be a cop. I remember I served them not not
01:09:30
the other way around. People used to thank me for my
01:09:32
service and say I can get paid for this.
01:09:34
You know, it's not a thank you for your service type thing when
01:09:36
people volunteer to thank you for your service.
01:09:38
You know, I, I just look at life a little bit differently and
01:09:41
most of my fans know that if they watch the show or if
01:09:44
they've read the book, But you know, when you got a, these
01:09:46
people don't even talk to you. They won't have a conversation.
01:09:50
They just tell you they need XY and Z.
01:09:53
And then that two weeks later when you don't hear from them,
01:09:55
they tell you they need more and then more.
01:09:57
And then you find out another person in your, in your sphere
01:10:00
got a subpoena because they're looking into them now.
01:10:02
And that scares everybody from talking to you or doing business
01:10:05
with you. They can play this out.
01:10:06
My, my lawyer tells me basically you give them everything you
01:10:09
need, everything they want, and hopefully they go away and you
01:10:13
know, but that's, that's the old adage because two weeks later,
01:10:15
you know my opinion. Is you go back to the old IRS
01:10:18
system that when they continue to audit you, you take
01:10:22
everything that you've got in your possession and you dump it
01:10:25
into trash bags and you have those hand delivered by
01:10:28
certified receipt. Because as much as that sounds
01:10:32
smart, Alec, yeah, I think there comes a point when government
01:10:36
needs to be told, you know, go F yourself.
01:10:39
And as as hard as that is, a lawyer would never advise you
01:10:42
that. The difficulty comes that I
01:10:44
think what I don't like about the legal system.
01:10:46
And we've done a bunch of research on PACER Lexus Nexus
01:10:50
and we've looked at the way that claims are filed, whether or not
01:10:53
it's a set of cookie cutter motions in a defense case where
01:10:56
they filed the cookie cutter motions and then the prosecutors
01:11:00
file a motion that's got misquoted law, misrepresented
01:11:03
statutes and the rest of it. And then the the the defense
01:11:07
counsels don't even reply to this garbage that gets filed
01:11:11
simply because they've got half a dozen other cases in front of
01:11:14
that particular department of the DOJ.
01:11:16
And they're negotiating, you know, civil settlements and
01:11:19
they're negotiating plea agreements.
01:11:22
Because let's face it, the the fact that the DOJ with his
01:11:25
screwed up as they are, has a 96 or 98% success rate in civil and
01:11:30
federal criminal cases doesn't make any sense.
01:11:33
Any mathematician would tell you that's physically impossible.
01:11:36
I'm sure a guy like you that looks at data sets would say,
01:11:38
yeah, unless there's cheating, there's just literally no way
01:11:40
they could do this, right? It's just mathematically it
01:11:43
doesn't make any sense. But, and I think there comes a
01:11:46
point where even when you're dealing in a situation like
01:11:49
yours, you just have to say no, no, you've got the data.
01:11:51
I don't need to supply it to you in any other manner.
01:11:53
That's the way we've done. I've done that.
01:11:54
I've done. That a few times I've gotten
01:11:56
just the other day it's a private, you know, I guess my,
01:11:59
my audience knows this, but on Friday I went to the ER for a
01:12:02
possible heart attack. I had some chest pains and it
01:12:05
was after dealing with my attorneys in the DOJ and I went
01:12:09
in and had some tests done. I have more tests to be done now
01:12:11
because they, they drive you to the point of insanity and you
01:12:15
get, and I've told my attorneys multiple times to like, I'm just
01:12:18
done. Tell him go fuck off.
01:12:19
Tell him to charge. You wanna charge me, charge me.
01:12:21
Because I'd rather go in front of a judge who might be more
01:12:24
impartial than some DOJ attorney who is just caring about their
01:12:28
conviction rate and wants to screw with you.
01:12:30
So I've told my attorney this multiple times and my attorney
01:12:33
said, look, this is the last bit of information we're sending
01:12:35
over and that's it. We're done.
01:12:37
You know, we're not. Everything else is beyond the
01:12:39
scope. Yeah, we've won on a couple
01:12:40
things where we've we've, you know, they wanted, they wanted
01:12:42
bank records on things. I'm like, no, it's like, why?
01:12:45
You seriously want to go through my like my credit card
01:12:47
statements? That's just inappropriate.
01:12:49
It's bad enough that they want, you know, text messages and
01:12:52
emails between me and my assistant, the different labs
01:12:56
that we worked with, different doctors we consulted to a lot of
01:13:00
the names on these lists. I don't even know who the hell
01:13:02
they are. It seems like they just threw a
01:13:03
wide net and said let's just see what we could find if there's
01:13:08
anything there, and then we'll charge it.
01:13:09
But I'm at the point now where I've basically told my attorneys
01:13:12
to tell these people to go fuck off.
01:13:14
But of course, you're right. He gives me other advice and
01:13:16
says, let's just do this part and this part.
01:13:19
And because what they have to do at the end of the day when you
01:13:21
tell them no is they're just going to go get a judge to
01:13:23
compel you to turn it over because they can under the
01:13:26
statute. We read it.
01:13:27
So at that point, now I'm spending more money legally by
01:13:30
telling them to go fuck off when I just have to go back.
01:13:33
And eventually I'm going to wind up doing it.
01:13:34
So my attorney is also trying to be mindful of what I'm spending.
01:13:38
But at the same time, at $500.00 an hour, you know that doesn't
01:13:42
that doesn't get me very far. Yeah.
01:13:45
Well, I'm sorry to hear that. You know, I, I think whenever we
01:13:49
talk about the ethics of the DOJI, don't think they even know
01:13:52
what the meaning of that word is.
01:13:54
Let's let's get back. I want to, I want to go back
01:13:56
into the books just for a few minutes here so we can kind of
01:13:58
give some conclusions. You know, when you did this,
01:14:01
obviously there's a lot of ethical implications when it
01:14:03
comes to public health policies. Do you believe there's been any
01:14:07
accountability for any of the failures or do you think there's
01:14:10
any accountability coming because you see the failures in
01:14:13
the medical system? You've you've proven it.
01:14:16
I'm thinking, I think that's probably, well, it's not
01:14:18
probably, it's absolutely why they came after you because they
01:14:22
have to try to stop you from continuing to expose the truth.
01:14:26
What do you think about accountability and consequences
01:14:29
of the medical industry for the misinformation they promoted?
01:14:32
What do you think that what do you think's going to happen?
01:14:34
You got any prediction? I mean, you know, we can.
01:14:36
Go around in one big circle at the end of the circle.
01:14:38
That's a shame. You know, my wife's a nurse
01:14:40
practitioner. She gets mad every time
01:14:42
somebody's questioning her because now everybody just
01:14:45
trusts the medical community and rightfully so.
01:14:47
I said this on a show earlier today, you know, people should
01:14:50
look into their doctors. I, I hate to say it, like I
01:14:53
always like to know people's, I hate to say political affiliate,
01:14:56
but I like to know the way they think, right.
01:14:59
And it tells me if you're a logical thinker or an emotional
01:15:01
thinker and if you're a logical, at least I can, you know, maybe
01:15:04
put some faith in what you're saying.
01:15:05
The medical community went off on its tangent.
01:15:08
They, they, they had no experience with this at all in
01:15:10
the beginning. They started just going off with
01:15:13
the CDC said, I mean, if anything, that should expose the
01:15:16
government and our medical, you know, institutions like the CDC,
01:15:20
because they went, they just kind of went whatever direction
01:15:22
the narrative they wanted to go. They didn't want to listen to
01:15:25
the real science we had. We had, I had studies on masks
01:15:28
that were like self reported on, on on military ships and was the
01:15:32
dumbest, you know, studies that they they, they pick cherry pick
01:15:36
from to try to get you to, you know, cover your face to try to
01:15:39
get you to social distance, to try to get you to stay home from
01:15:42
school and then force you into these shots.
01:15:44
The accountability is, is shot. And I feel bad for people like
01:15:48
my wife who just, you know, spent a nurse for 15 years.
01:15:51
She just graduated nurse practitioner school and she's
01:15:54
excited to work, but at the same time, she's tired of the way
01:15:57
medicine has worked around her. So, you know, I, I, I think we
01:16:01
have to get back to some assemblance of normalcy.
01:16:04
But I, I would, I would implore the public to question your
01:16:07
doctor, have a conversation, find out if you're on the same
01:16:10
page. And if you feel you're
01:16:12
comfortable with the person you're working with, great.
01:16:14
If you don't fire that person and teach them a lesson because
01:16:17
there's too many people that went along with the ridiculous.
01:16:20
If you, if your doctor still has one of those plastic things up
01:16:24
after, you know, after the nursing station, whatever, fire
01:16:27
your doctor. If they're still wearing masks
01:16:30
in their office, fire your doctor.
01:16:31
They obviously don't get it. If they're wearing a mask for a
01:16:34
virus, which we don't do, they obviously don't understand
01:16:37
medicine. You know, it's time we start
01:16:39
calling people out, but it's also the time we, we respect
01:16:42
those and give deference to the ones that were on our side the
01:16:44
entire time. There's a lot of good people in
01:16:47
medicine now that are getting the shaft because, you know,
01:16:50
they're just lumped in with everybody else, and that's a
01:16:52
shame. Well.
01:16:54
That's a few questions. People that are lumped.
01:16:56
In with everyone else. Did they speak up against every
01:16:59
like when all the COVID mess was coming around?
01:17:02
No, some did some. Didn't there's a doctor?
01:17:04
I know that there's some that didn't then.
01:17:06
They're not really on my eyes. I'll look at it like they ain't
01:17:09
speaking up, then they don't. Then they should be lumped in
01:17:13
with them. Because I have two friends.
01:17:14
I grew up with their doctors. They they spoke up.
01:17:17
They, they were my neighbors. And they said straight up don't
01:17:19
get that stuff, this and that. Listen, even before COVID, when
01:17:22
I go, if I had to, I don't rarely go to doctors.
01:17:25
I rarely get sick. But if I had to, they want to
01:17:28
prescribe something. I'm looking it up and seeing
01:17:30
what it's all about and why they giving it to me before I even
01:17:32
take anything. Because all these most doctors,
01:17:35
all they want to do is give you medication and you need to take
01:17:37
another medication for the side effects of that one.
01:17:40
I mean, because it's all big money.
01:17:42
That's the problem. You know there's.
01:17:44
A. George, there's a test.
01:17:46
We do in our office. It's, you've talked about
01:17:48
respiratory pathogen panels before.
01:17:50
There's another genetic test we do in our office called a
01:17:52
pharmacogenetic test. Pharmacogenetic test is done
01:17:54
with a cheek swab. It gives me a 35 page report.
01:17:57
I can tell what medications you can and can't take for the rest
01:18:00
of your life. It's it's, it's a lot of times
01:18:01
we use it for people who are polypharmic like you just
01:18:04
mentioned. They're on medications, you're
01:18:06
on 7 meds and they're on medication 7 to offset the side
01:18:08
effects of medication too. And when I have a patient walk
01:18:11
in my office and never had one of these done and they're on 7
01:18:13
meds, I say the same thing. Fire your doctor.
01:18:16
You know, you should be going to people who know the limitations
01:18:19
of medicine that aren't guessing at things, that have access to
01:18:22
testing and treatment that works.
01:18:24
We are in a different age now and a lot of people were trained
01:18:27
30-40 years ago. We didn't have access to stuff
01:18:29
like this. You have to vet your doctor.
01:18:31
My wife would love you because you know, you do some research.
01:18:34
She always says she loves a well educated patient.
01:18:37
But then you know, that sometimes turns into a web MD of
01:18:40
I think I know more than my practitioner was.
01:18:43
You know, my wife spent a lot of time in school.
01:18:45
She would probably, you know, prove a lot of those people
01:18:47
wrong. But you know, education is great
01:18:50
and, and knowing what you're doing.
01:18:51
We went into COVID not knowing, went into COVID trying to get a
01:18:55
shot for something that wasn't killing any of my patients, that
01:18:59
I had proven data wasn't working.
01:19:01
And yet you had guys like Fauci yelling at people that this was
01:19:05
a pandemic of the unvaccinated. They, they blatantly lied to
01:19:08
people. They used the narrative and they
01:19:10
forced a lot of people into a corner, like my wife who had to
01:19:13
get the shot because she worked at the hospital.
01:19:16
And there's a whole thing to that too, George.
01:19:18
You know, the hospitals wouldn't get reimbursed from CMS, which
01:19:21
is the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare, if 80% of their pay of
01:19:24
their staff wasn't vaccinated. So, you know, they were, they
01:19:27
were threatened with being fired if they didn't get the shot
01:19:30
because the hospital needed to get paid, right?
01:19:32
It's efficient. What about all the?
01:19:33
Bonuses and money they got for every like person they gave her
01:19:36
in decimer to or or. That's a lot.
01:19:39
Of that's a lot of that's BS. It's funny because we talk about
01:19:42
this all the time. My wife I know.
01:19:44
I know people that was running in hospital, they they were the
01:19:46
hospitals getting money for that in certain.
01:19:49
Circumstances, yes, but you'd have patients yelling at my wife
01:19:52
going, oh, you can get your $15 bonus now because she
01:19:56
was telling them that they were positive.
01:19:57
My wife's a nurse at the hospital at the time.
01:19:59
She's just telling them what's on the report.
01:20:01
You know, she didn't care about, you know, but these patients
01:20:03
would come after people like my wife was trying to do the right
01:20:05
thing, but my wife didn't want to get the shot.
01:20:08
My wife's got a heart issue now from the shot.
01:20:10
She's got plaque and aorta and enlarged right atrium.
01:20:13
She's had joint issues ever since this shot.
01:20:16
She didn't want these stupid things, but she was forced to.
01:20:18
She was going to lose her job. We weren't married at the time,
01:20:21
you know, And look, I advised my patients not to do it because
01:20:24
again, the risk versus reward didn't make sense.
01:20:26
It wasn't a logical choice. It was just blatant.
01:20:29
That was blatantly obvious that if people went and got it done
01:20:32
and came to me and complained later, they got a joint or heart
01:20:34
issues. Well, now we try to work with
01:20:36
them to fix that. But what we saw these shots
01:20:38
doing, guys, we saw it exacerbating areas of weakness.
01:20:41
It was the woman who would have joint issue at 40 and now it's
01:20:44
coming out of 20. It's the guy who would have a
01:20:46
heart issue at 70, and now it's exhibiting itself at 40.
01:20:48
That's the best way to describe what we were seeing in layman's
01:20:52
terms from what we saw in the beginning.
01:20:54
That's where Fauci's fiction ends, and vaccine fiction picks
01:20:57
up on that and goes into all the data and explains the why.
01:21:01
Well, when they. Find out how much money Fauci
01:21:03
really made off of this whole thing.
01:21:04
People are going to be like, well, hopefully we'll see.
01:21:07
Some of the states try to get people results in those.
01:21:12
One of the things is when. Somebody builds the right AI and
01:21:15
takes all the medical information and puts it in
01:21:18
there. Everything from herbs, from the
01:21:20
natural cures. You're going to see where you
01:21:23
ain't going to need a lot of big pharma anymore.
01:21:25
It's going to be if it's done right, yeah, there's a lot of
01:21:29
great. Cures out there for a lot of
01:21:31
things that we probably haven't heard of and you know it's Lance
01:21:34
brought it up earlier. It's like, you know, I was
01:21:35
trying to explain to my audience like RFK wants to come and take
01:21:39
medical commercials, pharmaceutical commercials off
01:21:41
TV, which I think is great. But then talk to Fox News about
01:21:44
that and ask them whether big advertising money comes from
01:21:47
every other commercial. It's the pharmacot that how they
01:21:49
going to make that up. It's a vicious cycle of
01:21:51
everything's convoluted and nobody really puts their finger
01:21:54
on the pulse. Well, and we talk.
01:21:55
About that, I want to just touch on this point before we wrap
01:21:58
this up. The complication comes from that
01:22:01
when you look at media and you look at Washington, DC and you
01:22:06
look at social media influencers, you know they
01:22:09
should be wearing NASCAR jackets at the end of the day.
01:22:11
When you look at the left and you look at the endorsements
01:22:14
that they're getting paid, that they're never disclosed.
01:22:17
And that's where the truth in advertising disappears because
01:22:20
at you know, so much of it, even for the elections, the FCC
01:22:23
waffles when you call them or the FTC and you ask questions
01:22:26
about being compensated for by different groups, whether it's
01:22:31
lobbyists and if they're anything connected to elections.
01:22:33
And they will give you the slight of hand answer because
01:22:37
they really don't want to tell you what the loss is.
01:22:39
And you look at the laws in line and it's very clear.
01:22:41
But you would think when it comes to if me personally, I'd
01:22:44
make lobbying illegal, I wouldn't allow the military
01:22:47
industrial complex or big farmer to lobby at all.
01:22:49
In fact, I'd make it criminal. If you get caught lobbying,
01:22:52
you're going to face immediate criminal charges for it.
01:22:55
Because I, I think that's where so much of the disinformation,
01:22:57
it's starting to get handed down.
01:22:59
Of course, that kind of protective media enforcement
01:23:04
that happened through COVID and it happens all the time.
01:23:07
Yeah, it needs to go away. But you know, these, I don't
01:23:09
know that in the time period we have with the Trump
01:23:11
administration, if we have 3 1/2 years or three years before they
01:23:14
have to start campaigning for the next person they want to put
01:23:17
in there. I don't know if they can clean
01:23:19
this all up. It's such a mess that I'm not
01:23:21
sure it's doable. But maybe we can make some small
01:23:24
changes. Maybe we can give you a hand
01:23:25
with what you have going on and try to get some of the details
01:23:28
into maybe the right people. So maybe they know you in the
01:23:31
right way versus the wrong way, like the DO JS attempting the
01:23:34
duty. Or maybe we can help you get
01:23:35
some relief. We'll try.
01:23:36
But you know, Doc, before we wrap up, I just want to give you
01:23:39
what I call the shameless plug period.
01:23:41
Where can they find your book? You know, tell them about your
01:23:44
show, tell them about your social media.
01:23:46
I'd like to help you. I think I found your right
01:23:47
account on X. I'd like to help you if you
01:23:49
build that up. Maybe tell ordinance how they
01:23:51
can file, you know, follow you, keep up your date with what
01:23:54
you're doing. I never used.
01:23:56
X when it was Twitter because it was so woke.
01:23:57
Now I started using it and I got like 250 people on there.
01:24:00
I'm like woo Hoo. The best place is Rumble for the
01:24:03
show. It's the channel is 2 mics live
01:24:06
on Dead Red Media. The show is 2 mics live and then
01:24:08
I do the Mike's Sports Show at 10:00 AM right before Bongino
01:24:11
and two mics live is on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday at 7:00
01:24:13
PM. The best place to find me
01:24:15
personally is on my website, michaeljsports.com.
01:24:18
The book is available on Amazon or anywhere books are sold.
01:24:21
You got to look them up though. You got to type in, you got to
01:24:23
type in Fauci's fiction and then you'll find usually vaccine
01:24:27
fiction. Sometimes you could Google them
01:24:29
and find them. Believe it or not, I'm
01:24:31
Googleable now, even though Mark Zuckerberg and the Meta folks
01:24:35
and the people over at YouTube and Google, they don't like me
01:24:38
very much, as I'm sure you know. We're in the same boat with that
01:24:41
guys. Just keep fighting the fight.
01:24:43
Well, yeah, we're still. Waiting for Google to come
01:24:45
around and and you, yeah, I don't know if it ever.
01:24:47
Will, All right. Listen, Doc, I really appreciate
01:24:50
you joining the show tonight. Thank you so very much for the
01:24:52
interview. Let's get that information over
01:24:54
to George and myself. We'll see what we can do if
01:24:56
maybe get into the right hands. We're going to have some, what I
01:24:58
think will be some important dialogues of people that are
01:25:01
operating around the DOJ and are looking at the DOJ and what I
01:25:05
believe is the correct way as a criminal compromised
01:25:08
institution. It's necessary, but it's not
01:25:10
necessary in its current form. So we'll try to see if we can
01:25:13
propel your story. So maybe take somebody takes a
01:25:16
serious look at it. In the meantime, I hope that the
01:25:18
audience, we appreciate you guys tuning in.
01:25:20
As always. Take the short form.
01:25:21
Take the long form. You know, George is going to put
01:25:23
it up. Use it in any way you can help
01:25:25
disseminate the message. Of course, this show is always
01:25:28
about educating and unifying the country.
01:25:31
And Doc, what is your X handle? It's.
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It's I told you I never use it. Is it MJ?
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Oh, you know, you just you just stumped me.
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Hold on. I'll tell you right now.
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Yeah. Let's share.
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I've just started using it. It's at MJ Schwartz 1, so MJ
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abducting huge numbers of children, forcing them to kill
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and mutilate innocent victims? Somebody.
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Had to pay the price. Sam did that.
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Sam. Childers never.
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Stopped because the bad things never stop.
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There is only one. Sam children, there is no one
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else like him in the world. Then I said to him, I.
01:30:00
Said, would you go? Now to.
01:30:03
Get Kony. In the Congo, he says, without a
01:30:05
doubt. In a second, now it's the.
01:30:06
DRC Tell us what's happening to children in the DRC.
01:30:09
Do you have? ISIS there you have Islamic
01:30:12
State and you have ADF. Hey, Sandy, Joseph Kony's still
01:30:15
alive. He's in the Congo.
01:30:17
And now God has me in the Congo, you know, So hopefully we'll
01:30:21
meet up one day. But maybe I can lead him to the
01:30:25
Lord or send him there. One or the other, huh?