Enoch aka Mr. Magapalooza Joins The Big Mig Show |EP449 | We invite all Liberty-Loving Americans to join with us to restore the principles of our Founding Fathers and promote God, Family, and Country in the media and our lives!

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All men are created equal, that they are endowed by their

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Creator with certain unalienable Rights, by liberty.

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If liberty means anything at all, it means right to tell

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people what they do not want to hear.

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Make America great. Welcome back to the big, big

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SHOW. I'm your host Lance Miliaccio

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with my Co host George Ballantine doing what we do.

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Hopefully everybody had a nice Christmas.

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I know we sure did. And if you know, if you're here,

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it's tip of the spear because if liberty means anything at all,

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it means the right to tell people what they do not want to

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hear. And you know, and that never

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changes here on the Big Big Show each and every single episode.

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This is what we do because we believe it's better to be hurt

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by the truth and comfort with a lie.

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And of course, we're always going to do the investigation

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and the work for you. We'll bring you the top stories,

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So it's part of the plan. George Ballantine man, how was

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your Christmas brother? It was good, it was peaceful.

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I spent it alone like I wanted to, you know, I had the family,

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my parent, my mom, sisters and brother.

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Christmas Eve and the next day is just, I didn't want to go by

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the other family. I just want to stay alone.

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Yeah, they put you to work usually, right?

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Aren't you usually? They don't put me to work, but I

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can't just sit there and not doing it, like not help out.

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But you know, when you have a bunch of other cousins that are

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sitting there and, you know, enjoying, no, I'm not going to,

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no. So yeah, it can happen, there's

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no doubt. I hear you.

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So George, yes, Sir. What's up, brother?

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No, I'm just chilling, you know, getting ready to get Mr.

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Magapalooza on, you know, should we, should we bring them on 1st

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and then do the mood thing or what?

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What do you want to do? Yeah, I think he's he, he's the

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kind of guy I would like to have to set the mood.

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Enoch's joining us, of course, AKA Mr. Magapalooza.

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And you probably guys know him through Enoch's News Blast.

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He's been retweeted by Donald Trump, you know, and this guy's,

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he's also been cued over 30 times.

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And he's the organizer of the Magapalooza National Patriot

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Camp Outs editor in chief of the News Blast.

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So. And you can imagine how

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difficult it is with Donald Trump to retweet.

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You've got to actually be over the target.

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So, yeah, let's bring him in. George.

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We can have him join us. For the second, welcome to the

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big big show Enoch, AKA Mr. Magapalooza.

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What's happening bro? Thank you for having me.

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Hi, Lance George, it's nice to be here.

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What a wonderful Friday here on Rumble.

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We have to add to your AKA Mr. Magapalooza because you now

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you're officially big, big mafia too, so we got to put that in

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there. That's right, you're now a

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friend of ours. And now.

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And now's you can't leave. I got to make you know what I

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should have made that little Enoch character into like a

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little. Little gangster guy.

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Yeah. Well, anyway, you're gonna have

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to tell me. We appreciate it.

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How was your Christmas brother? How?

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How was it? I, I spend holidays alone, so

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it's actually one of the rougher times of the year, but I don't

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ever let that get me down because I'm strong enough with

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my mental health and know that the time's coming around each

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year so. I'm sorry to hear that, but it's

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a good attitude about it. You know, holidays are tricky.

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I think even when it comes to family, you know, there's always

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that difficulty with some family members.

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I, I know some of my family members specifically don't like

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my position on what I think about the UNI party here in DC

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or in the country. They don't like my political

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beliefs or my support of Donald Trump or even my support of, you

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know, minimizing and reducing the size of government.

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In fact, I have a couple of family members that actually

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work for the government. So I know specifically they

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don't like my position. I'd like to see exactly what.

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And I know that this is maybe not a popular comment about just

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to make. Well, just no.

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I want. To say something, George, let me

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finish this. Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy,

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they've been a kind of a hot topic over the last, I guess, 24

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or 48 hours on X. It kind of fired up early.

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And then it got worse and worse over some comments that have to

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do with H2BH1B visas or H2B1 visas.

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And, you know, here's my thing for everybody out in the

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audience, you know, anybody that doesn't think that our

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immigration system is broken has never applied for an H1B1 visa

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and doesn't really know the process.

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And I have to be honest, I want professionals for this country.

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I want engineers, doctors, I want programmers.

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I don't want a bunch of people that have been dumped out of a

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prison. And if they came here illegally,

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my family came here legally in Georgia, this is where I'm going

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to want you to jump in because you had the same situation.

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My my family came here legally through Ellis Island.

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They had to fight their way here to get here.

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They didn't have a lot of money when they landed here.

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And they worked their butts off to get ahead.

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And you know, to me, that's what the American dreams about.

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It's not about just coming through as an invader to the

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border. I don't care whether you're a

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member of a transnational gang or if you're somebody that's

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spent time in prison for rape or murder.

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Those aren't on the top of my hot list for you to be here.

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So if you don't, guys don't like what I have to say.

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It's not that I don't believe in illegal immigration.

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It's not like I want to break up families or anything else.

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Come here legally, do it the right way.

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My family did cost them a lot to do it.

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It was very difficult. It wasn't easy, and you can

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imagine that was back in the time period that Italians were

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not very popular in New York. They were talked about in a very

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negative way racially. So George, I know your family's

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the same way. I don't know about yours.

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But George, go ahead. I know you might have some

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thoughts on that. Listen, my family, they came,

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not only my parents, my uncles, bunch of them, they all came

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over legally, you know, they, you know, had to go through it.

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But as far as the thing with Vimic and Elon, you know what,

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leave that, leave that alone right now.

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Let's just let's, before we want to start talking about bringing

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in more immigrants. I don't care legally or

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whatever. Let's get rid of what we have

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now, the bad ones, before we start even bringing up that

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discussion that they should you want to cut the budget and all

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that you know, you want to start talking about bringing the

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immigrants over not legally, but still no, we need to wait.

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We need to chill, work on getting rid of people when you

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get rid of see what's going on and then then we can start

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opening doors up slowly. But until then, no.

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You know what I'm I'm forgetting Giving them some slack on it,

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Lance. If people, I think.

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But we all should have. We all should be able to voice

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our opinions no matter what we don't like.

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This no doubt. I ain't a yes man.

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I ain't a Trump yes man, ain't nobody's yes man.

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I'm gonna say what's on my mind if I need to.

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Before we go, I agree for sure. I agree with that.

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But I think at the end of the day, there's a lot of division

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right now that I don't think is beneficial.

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They've got their hands full when this administration goes

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into place. And I love what he said today,

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that he's got a bunch of executive orders.

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I often said that if I was president of the United States,

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I would walk in day way, day one with a couple of 100 executive

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orders. Day 2, I would make a list of

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the enemies of the country, foreign and domestic, and I

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would go right into OverDrive doing what our country does

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best, which is going after the people that I know potentially

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have done everything they can within their wheelhouse to

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destroy the country from within. So Enoch, I don't know your

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thoughts. I know you engage even at a

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higher level. I'm not always as engaged

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personally as Georgian you are. So hold on before we.

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Get your thoughts on it. Before we bring Enoch, I wanted

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to say Enoch, you do have family now here and with me and Lance

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and I know a lot of the patriot people.

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You do have new family and family that would stick beside

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you. But we didn't do our set the

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mood, Lance. Oh, yeah, that's a good point.

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You probably should do that. It's motivational.

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I like this one. You know, it's funny.

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I I don't. I don't know if Rogan was always

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doing these or I'm wondering if he stole the set the mood idea

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from the big Mig. I'm starting to wonder.

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I'm feeling like Rogan might be watching our show and trying to

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steal some ideas. Here's the deal.

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This is Tom Brady. I'm Joe Rogan.

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What? It's possible the way you'd be

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stalking some things again. I don't know.

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I mean, I've been, well, I'm definitely stalking Rogan, Sean

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Ryan, you know, Tucker, you know, you name it.

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Dan Von, you know, stalker, living in the dark, trying to

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take all the good ideas because we want to be one of the top

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shows. We want to be a flagship show

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just like them. And we want to make sure we're

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doing what the audience wants to see.

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And that's why you guys know, on this show we have diversified

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into MMA and authors and documentarians and activities.

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Yeah, let's do it, baby. All right, all.

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Right, Jodi's in the house. What up Jod have you?

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Ever seen that video? No pull that video up because

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it's one of my favorite. There will come opportunities in

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life, you know when they're presented to you in front of

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you. It's just a matter of whether

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you're not prepared to take advantage of the opportunities,

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but you've got to develop that resilience within you.

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Life is not about how much you succeed.

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It's about what happens when you fail.

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Right. So life is you could look at

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like, man, what's been inspiring for me, if you said all, Tom,

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what are the greatest wins? I'd be like, oh, the wins, yeah.

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Let's talk about the losses. Those are the ones that really,

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you know, made me who I am and and, you know, as you go through

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life and we're all adults, things happen in life that you

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don't want to have happen, whether you lose a game or

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whether you. Things don't go.

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Well, at work or something with your child or you know, there's

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a lot of things that come up in our personal professional.

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Lives that just don't go the way we.

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Want and How do you deal with it?

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You deal with class and integrity and with with courage

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and with resilience and you're able to share emotion with

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people. And do you have other people in

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your life that can help you through those things?

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And I think. Like I said, my blessing is I've

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had people that. Go through those things with me

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and you know, they always say double the pleasure and divide

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the pain. And that's what relationships

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are all about. When you care for those people

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and when you love them and when you give to them, they get back

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and you know that's where the reward comes.

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Back think. Well said.

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I, I appreciate what Tom Brady had to say there.

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So Enoch, what do you think right now online?

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A lot of division, a lot of craziness.

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You're engaged at a higher level than myself, although George

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obviously spends a lot of time engaging.

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What do you think about what's going on online right now with

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the Vivec and Elon, and additionally maybe in the

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community itself? Yeah, well, I'm definitely never

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afraid to put my opinion out there.

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I'm also never afraid to be proven wrong.

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Watching what's going on on X I think is interesting for a

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multiple reasons. One is the what people think to

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be divisive. Sometimes it's just debate,

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right? Like debates can be heated, but

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high level debate needs to be had and like to shrink away from

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the opportunity to have that debate, I think is more of a

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problem than speaking up about it.

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So like, I just appreciate that there's even a back and forth

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going on the second part about what's going on in X and I

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didn't hear you guys bring this part up.

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Was the new the new form of like almost like a censorship that.

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Is interesting, you're right. Which is being implemented along

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with this discussion, which is as someone who always, you know,

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takes a step back and looks at the bigger picture, the timing

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of that is interesting to me. And for anyone that doesn't know

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it's what's getting done at X now is it's a form of censorship

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where let's say you have two very high verified accounts with

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high following and they're engaged in a debate with someone

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with a lower following. Well if let's just say a debate

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gets heated and the higher up, the bigger people with the

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bigger following block the lower following person, it actually

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will diminish their reach. They don't call it shadow

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banning, they call it visibility.

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Limiting is the X word for it. So like to me, I think that's

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actually a bigger discussion to be had than the debate about the

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visas my myself. Yeah, I think, I think it's a

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great point. I was going to bring that up and

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talk about it. To be honest with you, we George

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and I, I don't know about George as much as the big, big show

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account of my personal account, Lance Miniatio.

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I've never not that visibility limited.

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I was suspended a minute 46 after Donald Trump and then we

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got our accounts back when Elon came in.

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George never got back his original account.

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He had to start from scratch. I.

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Never got my account back. And here's the Warriors baby.

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My visibility has never been limited because the combined

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I've got about 190 or almost 200 on my personal account

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and I think another 240 something or 230 something I

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don't know exactly on the show account.

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And they operate as if I only have a couple of 1000 people and

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I have high levels of verified accounts following me and a lot

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of them, you know, bigger profile, you know, personal

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account. I've got big MMA people and some

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actors and actresses and other stuff.

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So I've got some big followers that would that should at make

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my account more relevant. But when I post them, a lot of

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times I feel like they're almost invisible.

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They get to so many 100 people are complaining when they get 10

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or 15. I'm so limited my visibility and

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I laugh. I want to say hold my beer

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because you haven't seen anything yet.

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To the point that I'm probably going to jump on a plane here at

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the beginning of the year, maybe January or February, depending

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on George and I schedule. And I'm going to fly to Austin

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and I'm going to try to meet with somebody there.

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But I do believe that tweet cred 2 point O is in effect.

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I'm not sure I understand. Do either you guys understand

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why they took away some people's verification and said they were

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looking? They were, I think they said

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your, your, your account is being, you know, investigated or

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something to that effect. They did it to Laura Loomer and

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several others. Does anybody know what triggered

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that? I mean, not that I don't.

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I'm not surprised. Laura Loomer.

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I have some information I stayed up last night.

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Listening. Oh great, let's hear it.

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I'd love to hear. So for the audience we're

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talking about, about some higher profile conservative accounts.

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I don't know if it was only conservatives, that's the only

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ones I would have seen probably because I don't see a lot of the

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high profile liberal people. I don't follow them, so it would

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be unlikely. But but it's odd.

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All of a sudden now the blue boom, the check Mark's gone.

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Now normally that happens in Enoch.

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You stop me if I'm wrong, George.

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You might know this also. I think when you change your

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profile image, that automatically happens till they

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reauthenticate you. I don't think that's what we're

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talking about here. We're talking about something

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independent of that. So Enoch, go ahead man.

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All right, so during this debate back and forth with Elon and

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Vivek that Laura Loomer was having over the last 48 hours,

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she had posted FCC file a screenshot of an FEC filing and

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she grayed out the address of the person that was in the FEC

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filing. Twitter flagged that as a as

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dachshund, right? So they what they did is they

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they limited, they took away her verification because of that.

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And while that was going on, since she was attached to the

00:17:22
there's this account called conservative OG and it was like

00:17:26
it. And that was the badge like, you

00:17:28
know how like on X now, if you're part of the.

00:17:30
Organization OG Yeah, she's a verified.

00:17:32
She's an affiliate of a verified organization.

00:17:35
Right, so when they took away her verification badge, it

00:17:38
actually affected everyone that was part of the conservative

00:17:42
Conservative OG badge. Really.

00:17:46
She's appealing, you know, but but again, she got locked out of

00:17:50
her account for 12 hours. She's appealing.

00:17:53
What she did wasn't doxing. FCC filings are public record.

00:17:57
Can you give me the context, Enoch of the SEC filing, What

00:18:01
was it concerning? I forget the gentleman's name,

00:18:05
but it has to do with the the the gentleman Trump name to be

00:18:09
the AI director. Yeah, of.

00:18:11
Course, yeah. So again, that's also tied to X

00:18:15
and Elon and unfortunately BlackRock, which you see that in

00:18:21
this name pop up everywhere. And I think that might be one of

00:18:24
the reasons why some people are going hard after the guy.

00:18:28
But when it comes down to the removal of the, of the

00:18:31
verification, I, I believe that's exactly what it was cuz

00:18:35
Twitter has a set of terms of service for people like us, but

00:18:38
that, you know, in our verification badge, but they

00:18:40
also have a terms of service for the org badges.

00:18:43
And so if someone in your org loses their verification

00:18:46
through, you know, let's let's say doxing, it removes the

00:18:51
verification and the badge from everyone attached to that.

00:18:53
Wow. Interesting.

00:18:54
So I believe verified org we're part of the solemn global

00:18:58
verified organization. So that's interesting, although

00:19:02
you know, the sort of thing that George and I post nowadays,

00:19:06
we're, we're, I would say we're so and I say middle of the road.

00:19:09
It's not because we won't take a position, it's because we

00:19:10
basically go after both sides of the aisle.

00:19:13
So and we don't ever directly docks, of course, but at the end

00:19:16
of the day, we're in a kind of a different position where she is

00:19:19
clearly a target more so. Although I also think, don't you

00:19:23
think that sometimes people's presentation, I know you've gone

00:19:27
after people and both George and I have, but it's the rhetoric

00:19:30
and the edge it comes from somebody like Loom or otherwise

00:19:33
that I think is something they're really trying to get off

00:19:36
of X. Because there's when that

00:19:38
nastiness comes in, which I think is unnecessary.

00:19:40
I think you can out somebody and you can do all that without

00:19:43
getting into anything that's, I think, overly nasty.

00:19:47
Well, that's part of the censorship regime over on X is

00:19:50
like Elon himself calls it, Yeah, freedom of speech, but not

00:19:54
freedom of reach, right? So if you have what they what X

00:19:57
considers hateful tweets? Instead of taking you down or

00:20:01
suspending your account, they're going to again, limit your

00:20:04
visibility. And so it's a it's, it's, it's a

00:20:09
way to try to almost like kind of mold us to self censor, which

00:20:13
is something I'm actually, I'm not a big fan of that.

00:20:16
I figured I'm someone that believes in real free speech,

00:20:21
you know, whether whether it's good or bad.

00:20:24
Honestly, just because I I'd rather stand up for your right

00:20:27
to hate me publicly than my right to not have anyone hear

00:20:32
you. Yeah, and I think I think you're

00:20:35
right about that. You know, our accounts, at least

00:20:37
my, the two accounts that the big, big shown my personal

00:20:40
account are so suppressed that I don't find myself one way or the

00:20:43
other self, you know, kind of self controlling myself because

00:20:48
I don't feel like anything I could do at this point.

00:20:49
Could it make my accounts any worse than they are?

00:20:51
I just think that there's lots of ways to, you know, bring up

00:20:55
topics or investigate people and put out the real material

00:20:59
without having to get in a nasty rhetoric.

00:21:01
If somebody gets caught, you know, attacking the country and

00:21:05
we can prove that they're a paid operative or otherwise, I'm sure

00:21:08
as hell going to do that. But I think sometimes it's the

00:21:10
tone in which people do things, you know, and, and I think, you

00:21:14
know, Laura's been had a tendency to do that in the past.

00:21:16
I like her a lot. I think she's great.

00:21:18
I think she's just a great journalist.

00:21:19
But I also think that sometimes she could present things in a,

00:21:22
in a, in a much more professional manner, not that

00:21:24
they wouldn't have the same impact.

00:21:26
I don't know if you agree with me or not on that, George.

00:21:28
We'll see what your thoughts are.

00:21:31
I was just doing something Lance, trying to figure figure

00:21:33
something out, so I wasn't really paying attention.

00:21:34
I didn't mean I knew you might. Even work I didn't want.

00:21:36
To leave you out of the conversation like Ian and I are

00:21:38
just. Going ONS?

00:21:39
No, that's all right. I was just checking something

00:21:42
out, yeah. We were just talking about how

00:21:45
the Laura, sometimes the way she presents things are pretty

00:21:47
aggressive, so. Listen, Laura's heart's in the

00:21:51
right place. She's got a fierce I.

00:21:54
Agree. She's fiercely loyal, but the

00:21:56
way she comes off sometimes is she needs to try to take it back

00:22:02
a little. Sometimes it doesn't.

00:22:04
With her, it seems like it always revolves around her and

00:22:08
that's the that's one of the issues she has.

00:22:11
You know, it's all about me, me, me, me.

00:22:13
No, it's not. It's about everybody.

00:22:16
And you know, she's always like on attack, like I can't.

00:22:21
I would hate to be the guy that would have to date her.

00:22:23
Can you imagine you guys get an argument?

00:22:25
Could you get one word she's. Amazing when it comes to her

00:22:28
dog. She's ultra sensitive when it

00:22:30
comes to pets because the dogs don't.

00:22:31
Dogs don't talk, they just bark. Come on.

00:22:33
But let me add something that I think when you start calling

00:22:36
Elon Musk clingy, in my opinion on Musk, I think he's got his

00:22:41
hands very full. I truly believe at X there are

00:22:45
still foxes in the hen house. I think there's a lot of lots of

00:22:48
leftover cold. We talked to the parsable, the

00:22:50
one parsable quite a bit. He's got a lot of knowledge on

00:22:53
what happened there with the programming and the coding.

00:22:55
And I think that's part of it. And then I think also because he

00:22:58
is so overly busy that he doesn't get the information.

00:23:01
I also think that X support sucks a big fat 1.

00:23:05
But that's because. I would I would award them the

00:23:06
bag of Dicks right now. You.

00:23:08
Want to know why? Because he trimmed all the

00:23:10
employees and so there's not really employees to do this.

00:23:13
But now, Enoch, I want to get your opinion on this.

00:23:17
Elon Musk is a master troller. He doesn't.

00:23:19
He trolls everybody. Democrats, Republicans,

00:23:22
libertarians, white people feel. Like he trolls me personally,

00:23:26
right? So.

00:23:28
If he puts a post up and let's say like Laura Luma took offense

00:23:32
to it saying, oh, well, I'm a troll now, then if you take

00:23:35
offense to it, that means, yeah, you're a troll because you're

00:23:38
conscious. You're letting that bother you.

00:23:40
They don't bother me so. Like when we speaking about

00:23:45
debate, like we can debate about topics without bringing up the

00:23:48
person talking about the topics as well.

00:23:52
And that's one of the beautiful things I like, I love debate.

00:23:55
I absolutely love it. And I used to be an Anon on the

00:23:58
Chan boards. And something there was that no

00:24:01
one knew not only just like, who you were, but they didn't know

00:24:04
if you're a guy or a girl, if you're a boomer or zoomer, you

00:24:07
know, they didn't know if you're rich or you're poor.

00:24:10
It was all based on the content of what you would post.

00:24:13
Yeah. So like, I really appreciate

00:24:15
that sometimes. But sometimes on X we get a

00:24:17
little carried away. Like you will look at who's

00:24:21
making the post, you know, instead of the argument itself.

00:24:25
And with especially with Laura Loomer, that definitely comes up

00:24:28
a lot with her. Like I actually agree with your

00:24:31
guys's take on her, but I also disagree with a lot of things

00:24:35
she says. And it's the same with Elon

00:24:37
Musk. I'm it's kind of funny in my

00:24:39
community, people know I have like almost, I have a slight

00:24:43
distrust with Elon Musk because of his background and some of

00:24:46
the things that he says he's going to do compared to the

00:24:49
things he does. Like, I'm a big fan of not only

00:24:52
talking to talk but walking the walk.

00:24:54
And there's some things that he said he would do, like, like

00:24:57
granting, you know, he did that vote where he wanted to grant

00:24:59
amnesty for all the suspended accounts.

00:25:02
The people voted. And then he put his Latin phrase

00:25:04
up, like, you know, it's the will of the people's.

00:25:06
It shall be. And he never followed through

00:25:08
with it. No, I was just going to say

00:25:10
yeah. Right.

00:25:11
But there's other things too. Like I can also praise him for

00:25:14
the things that he's going to be doing, especially with working

00:25:16
with Trump, with the Department of Government efficiency.

00:25:18
Like I live my whole life never thinking that we would have a

00:25:21
chance to audit the Fed or do any, you know, the Pentagon and

00:25:25
the actual audit of the Pentagon or get rid of, you know, 80% of

00:25:30
the IRS. Like these are all things that

00:25:32
are potential possibility now under under with with Elon Musk.

00:25:36
I absolutely support that. But the same time, I don't let

00:25:40
things slide with the, especially with with acts and

00:25:43
the censorship that seems to be happening on that platform.

00:25:47
And there's no doubt he also had made a commitment to exposing

00:25:50
the code that you'd be able to see what labels you were

00:25:53
suppressed with, how you'd been suppressed when it happened.

00:25:55
There was supposed to be some kind of a console they were

00:25:57
going to have available where you could look at your account

00:26:00
and figure out why. You know, right now it's

00:26:02
difficulty about posting on X and many of the other platforms

00:26:05
is the algorithms are based on what's profitable for the

00:26:09
institution, what they think is best to monetize the

00:26:12
institution, which listen, some of these companies are public

00:26:14
companies, some of them are private companies.

00:26:16
So I get it. But at the same time, the secret

00:26:20
of nature of it. And then when you are suppressed

00:26:23
and you haven't really done anything because we, you know,

00:26:24
we don't, you know, when we don't, the labels and that's

00:26:28
Parsville did it. He said that the big big show

00:26:30
account has 63 labels on it, suppression labels and the and

00:26:35
my personal account has 61 suppression labels on it.

00:26:37
Now. The suppression labels on there

00:26:39
were everything from spamming to all, all sorts of other things.

00:26:43
You could see it was just malicious in nature because we

00:26:45
hadn't even participated in any of that kind of stuff, violent

00:26:48
rhetoric. And there was some stuff about

00:26:50
spamming for crypto, which we don't do.

00:26:52
And we weren't even in crypto when these labels were put on.

00:26:54
We've gotten into crypto recently just because it's, you

00:26:58
know, it's become something that that is our plan moving forward

00:27:01
for us in the show. But yeah, it's, you know, he,

00:27:05
he, as you said, he used, he used that, that Latin phrase vox

00:27:09
populate, which is the voice of the people.

00:27:11
And I think what's really interesting is he's not really

00:27:13
living up to that. I'd like him to, I'd like to see

00:27:16
him engage further. But I also don't know what the

00:27:19
hierarchy is and what, who is, who's actually making these

00:27:23
calls. Some people were very nervous

00:27:25
about, you know, the new CEO for a number of reasons, because.

00:27:29
She Linda Yacarino. Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, I could

00:27:32
work for the World Economic Forum previously WEF.

00:27:35
And the mainstream media. Yeah.

00:27:37
So a lot of people are concerned.

00:27:38
Didn't really know what her position is.

00:27:39
I still don't. I don't know her at all.

00:27:41
I don't really engage with her just because it's not really in

00:27:43
my wheelhouse. But yeah, you're right.

00:27:45
I mean, my thing is if you talk the talk, you should walk the

00:27:47
walk. And if we're going to expose the

00:27:49
code, let people see why they were suspended.

00:27:52
And I also think that they're, they're, they're, they've

00:27:54
stabilized. XI think he needs some staffing

00:27:57
in the support department now because here's my biggest

00:27:59
complaint, George, and then I'm going to let you go.

00:28:01
I, I, my issue is that the, the premium accounts and the

00:28:05
verified org accounts are supposed to get this higher,

00:28:08
higher level of, of customer support because you're paying

00:28:11
for service, but there, it's not there.

00:28:14
And then if you try to say to him, well, hey, I'm having some

00:28:16
issue with my accounts. I'm not sure what's going on.

00:28:18
Can you take a look at the suppression and figure it out

00:28:20
for me? Crickets.

00:28:21
You get 0 back. Nothing at all.

00:28:23
There's not even we're looking into it.

00:28:25
We'll take a look at your accounts.

00:28:26
I, I put that in, I can't even tell you how many times.

00:28:28
And that's why I'm now thinking on my own dime, you know,

00:28:31
Georgianized dime. Then I'm going to have to go

00:28:33
down there because I would like our accounts to be unsuppressed

00:28:36
because I think it'll make a difference for our show and for

00:28:38
our nationally syndicated radio show and the new products we're

00:28:40
coming out with. We'd like to have more, you

00:28:43
know, more optics and more freedom of reach for our

00:28:46
accounts. So I don't know.

00:28:47
But George, go ahead from there because you and I have talked

00:28:49
about this many. Times Enoch when he's talking

00:28:52
about labels and suppression. My account, my you know, new

00:28:55
account I got labels on and I got suppression due to

00:28:59
association. You know what I mean that guy

00:29:02
right there they just got guilty of association.

00:29:06
Lance, you didn't smile. You went over your head brow,

00:29:09
but. No, no, you know, I was just

00:29:11
going to let yourself to dry on that one.

00:29:13
So the one thing people need to realize is on social media you

00:29:17
have a lot of keyboard warriors, right?

00:29:21
We all know what they are because 99.9% of them won't say

00:29:26
shit to your face. Don't do it online.

00:29:30
Just don't let it affect you. They're just, you know, they

00:29:34
think they're bigger than people this and that, you know,

00:29:35
keyboard warrior, whatever. But they won't.

00:29:38
And we know this because we've seen it, right?

00:29:40
You're not. We we, we might have, we might

00:29:43
have even called out a few of them for a face to face.

00:29:45
Of course, they didn't take us up on it.

00:29:47
But you know, I'm not sure that was the right position.

00:29:50
There were a couple of moments where I started to lose my cool,

00:29:53
not so much on X, but maybe more on true social when somebody

00:29:55
thought they were going to pop off on George.

00:29:57
And I was like, look, no effing problem.

00:30:00
You know, I can get jump on the next flight to Florida.

00:30:02
Just, you know, let me know where I need to come and I'll

00:30:04
knock on your door and we can straighten this out face to

00:30:05
face. Of course, most of these guys

00:30:07
were cowards that just ran in the other direction and just all

00:30:10
they could do was hide behind their keyboard.

00:30:12
They weren't willing to meet face to face.

00:30:13
But they also that's the problem on social media and online, a

00:30:17
lot of people like to perpetuate for click bait and otherwise.

00:30:20
We've seen a lot of accounts attacking people.

00:30:23
And I often wonder, you know, you know, there's a saying,

00:30:26
right? You know, and you know, any, any

00:30:29
attention is good attention. Sometimes I don't believe in

00:30:31
that saying, but you know, some people think, oh, well, I'm not

00:30:33
getting positive attention, so let me work for negative

00:30:35
attention. I wonder how much of that comes

00:30:37
into play. What do you think, Enoch?

00:30:40
They call it hate clicks and it absolutely is a thing on social

00:30:44
media and it's I saw it ramp up once we were all allowed to be

00:30:48
monetized on X. If if your monetization is

00:30:54
directly linked to your and not engagements, what do they call

00:30:58
it on X anyway? Your engagements.

00:31:03
So like, so what's going on is you have these accounts now that

00:31:05
focus most mostly on the drama because it elicits this back and

00:31:08
forth. It make like they're gonna say

00:31:11
something that makes people want to engage with them in a hateful

00:31:13
way. And the more interactions that

00:31:16
they build up, the more money they're actually gonna make.

00:31:19
And so I, I was actually kind of surprised at the way that

00:31:24
monetization happened over our next from it kind of, I actually

00:31:28
saw my feet like start to get watered down, whether it was

00:31:31
with people I'd normally be following for their information

00:31:34
and now engaging in these hate click tactics or they're just

00:31:38
posting a cat video to get engagement.

00:31:42
So like, I know that's kind of a little off topic there, but it's

00:31:46
all. I think it's right on topic.

00:31:49
I think it's really, I don't think it's off topic at all.

00:31:51
I think you nailed it because I see that a lot.

00:31:52
You know, one of the things I don't like is that, you know,

00:31:56
when you put up a picture of say, you know, a celebrity and

00:31:59
they say, oh, what do you see wrong with this picture?

00:32:01
What do you see? You know, when they when they do

00:32:04
it with a Taylor Swift or somebody else, and then all of a

00:32:06
sudden you look at the post and it's got millions of views or

00:32:08
you look at something put up by like case and not or Adam Ross,

00:32:13
one of those people. And it's something stupid like

00:32:15
this girl almost got Adam Ross suspended on Kik.

00:32:18
She almost flashed. And you then you look at the

00:32:21
impressions on that and you realize that there's something

00:32:24
wrong with the algorithm. So that thing is now at 8 or 9

00:32:27
million views just for that statement.

00:32:29
And there's nothing in it. The girl isn't flashing.

00:32:31
There isn't. It's just completely fabricated,

00:32:34
which makes me wonder who's perpetuate, you know, who's

00:32:37
creating these algorithms And why would that be top priority

00:32:40
news? Why would Taylor Swift, why

00:32:43
would a costume malfunction on Taylor Swift be more important

00:32:47
than, you know, something to do with an election integrity or

00:32:50
something to do with big news or maybe even P Diddy if they were

00:32:52
going to release some of the information.

00:32:53
Or just like recently, we saw Jay-Z, you know, get hammered by

00:32:57
the judge where he was trying to boot the claim by that accused

00:33:01
that the person that accused him of raping the 13 year old, she

00:33:04
accused him. He tried to get out of it by

00:33:06
saying, you know, this isn't, it's hogwash.

00:33:08
And the judge said we're going to find out, but you're not

00:33:10
going to be able to just dismiss this with prejudice.

00:33:12
We're going to look at it. So, you know, that seems more

00:33:15
important to me. Not that I think that's a top

00:33:16
priority as compared to news in the country, but why is it that

00:33:19
something that's completely just jackassery stupid It seemed

00:33:24
seems it seems that the algorithms just love it.

00:33:26
Or is it fabricated? Are they choosing to, you know,

00:33:30
dump a bunch of impressions on something to do with the kick

00:33:33
stream or a Fortnite stream or some person like case and odd or

00:33:37
I show speed because when I look at that stuff, it looks like

00:33:40
total garbage to me. I don't find it amusing or funny

00:33:43
when they, you know, then they talk about the one guy taxing.

00:33:47
He's different. He's coming in to tax your food.

00:33:49
And then Guy takes a bite out of their sandwich and that'll have

00:33:52
four and a half million impressions and you're like,

00:33:55
why? But if you tweet out a link to

00:33:58
your show, it'll limit your reach if you tweet.

00:34:01
That's the other thing. Why should, and while I'm doing

00:34:04
it now, I was, I got to a point where George and I weren't

00:34:07
putting the link in and we realized we weren't getting less

00:34:09
impressions whether the link was there, the link wasn't there.

00:34:12
So now we're just sticking it in there because there's no

00:34:14
downside for us. But we were at the point where

00:34:16
we were only putting the link in the comments.

00:34:17
And the point is, why should promoting my show when I'm

00:34:20
promoting Rumble, I'm promoting X, I'm promoting YouTube, I'm

00:34:24
promoting locals and I'm working for them.

00:34:26
I used to put all their advertising on.

00:34:28
We just recently took all the advertising off because we felt

00:34:30
like we weren't getting anything in return.

00:34:32
But when we've done press releases or we've had articles

00:34:35
written about us or when we're on our nationally syndicated

00:34:37
radio show that goes out to three to 9 million listeners.

00:34:40
We mentioned that our home bases rumble.

00:34:42
We mentioned you can find us on X.

00:34:44
I'm promoting them for free. So why should my link be

00:34:47
something that I'm penalized for?

00:34:49
Because let's face it, The other thing is they, they want to use

00:34:52
the fact checking, right? They want fact checking through

00:34:54
the, you know, the, the community fact checking.

00:34:56
What? How can you write an article and

00:34:58
not put the link for your source if you're going to get fact

00:35:01
checked on it? That's how I.

00:35:03
Was getting hit. That's how I was getting hit.

00:35:06
As someone who's like a. Crazy right?

00:35:07
Am I right? I'm a new.

00:35:09
Aggregate and like, so I like to show my source like I don't want

00:35:13
to just say something and make people believe me.

00:35:15
I want to make something there for you to be able to click on

00:35:18
and see exactly what I'm talking about.

00:35:21
It's honestly it's I could talk for hours about this.

00:35:27
No, but I'm going to tell you something.

00:35:28
It's a great topic because platform's here.

00:35:30
For you bro. Well, we're, we're writing long

00:35:33
form content, right for Solemn Global.

00:35:35
We're doing a lot of research, we're educating people about

00:35:37
crypto. That's part of what Solemn

00:35:39
Global wants to do on the new Crypto Power Hour on the show.

00:35:42
And I'm promoting these platforms on my show, so why

00:35:46
should I get penalized when I put a link for Rumble to watch

00:35:48
the show? Because at the end of the day,

00:35:50
if X would embrace the big Ming show, right, if they'd embrace

00:35:53
us, then then I would be less motivated to do that and I would

00:35:57
want to. But since they seem to be doing

00:35:59
the exact opposite, they're they're, you know, they suppress

00:36:01
our live stream over there, they suppress my content.

00:36:05
So what's the benefit of me going along with them and not

00:36:08
putting a link and then getting fact checked for it?

00:36:10
Because when you write long form content, you're writing it often

00:36:13
that article can get, can get pulled up on a Fact Check

00:36:15
because there's you can't put any linking in it because

00:36:18
supposedly even in the long form articles, they'll, they'll,

00:36:20
they'll, they'll hit you for it. How does that make sense?

00:36:22
If you're supposed to be the news source, right, You're

00:36:25
supposed to be investigative journalist.

00:36:27
How do you not put your sources in to make sure that the the

00:36:30
article is truthful and authentic?

00:36:32
And that would seem the same thing for the shows.

00:36:34
If you're promoting Rumble or if you're promoting X or if you're

00:36:38
promoting locals or true social. You would think that the link

00:36:42
showing that you're promoting it because we put it in our

00:36:44
thumbnails forever now. We're not doing it because we

00:36:46
don't. You know, my thing is what I

00:36:48
feel like a lot of times, especially people like you

00:36:50
investigate a journalist and George, man, don't you guys feel

00:36:54
like a lot of times this is a thankless fucking job.

00:36:58
Well, I'm, I'm lucky enough that the community that supports me

00:37:01
is absolutely amazing. And not a day goes by without

00:37:05
someone giving me thanks for what I do.

00:37:07
I mean, specifically with the news blast, to be able to

00:37:11
summarize the previous day's news and just one, one post, one

00:37:16
image where people can catch up, people that are taking care of

00:37:18
their families, people are working, you know, over 80 hours

00:37:22
a week. They don't have time to keep up

00:37:24
on the news. So like, honestly, it's one of

00:37:26
the big motivators for what I do is the thanks I get from the

00:37:29
community. Yeah, and I, and I'm not talking

00:37:33
specifically about the community.

00:37:34
I'm talking more about the platforms, maybe the political

00:37:37
environment. You know, if, if George and I

00:37:39
were willing to sell our souls to the other side of the, the

00:37:42
political spectrum, we could have taken in a lot of money.

00:37:44
About ten, 11-12 months ago, we were offered a contract for big

00:37:47
money. Of course it came with a list of

00:37:49
things we weren't allowed to talk about, so we turned it

00:37:51
down. My point is that there should be

00:37:55
a benefit just like X should embrace us.

00:37:57
If I talk about X on our nationally syndicated radio

00:37:59
show, they should know that and they, and they could easily know

00:38:02
that just by listening to 1 episode.

00:38:04
You can find us over at X join our community.

00:38:06
They would know that. How do we not benefit?

00:38:08
How do they not look at us and say, hey, we're going to support

00:38:11
these guys because they're supporting us and we want them

00:38:13
to grow. We're getting the exact opposite

00:38:16
though. They're they're they're

00:38:17
intentionally suppressing us, you know, and it's funny because

00:38:20
we don't use hateful rhetoric. We don't dox people.

00:38:22
We'll out a story and if you're guilty and we find the facts,

00:38:25
your story is going to be covered on our show.

00:38:26
We're going to out you. But it seems like we get the

00:38:29
exact opposite of support from these platforms when in fact,

00:38:32
you would think that a show, you know, again, I'm not boasting

00:38:35
about us. This happens to many of the

00:38:37
shows. I talked to many other podcast

00:38:39
hosts and radio hosts and they feel the same thing.

00:38:41
I mean, I think if we talked to Joe Pags, he would say it.

00:38:43
I think we talked to Roger Stone, he would say it.

00:38:46
So we hear this over and over again.

00:38:47
Listen, let's take a short break.

00:38:49
When we come back, we'll be here with Enoch, Mr. Magapalooza and

00:38:52
George Ballantine doing what we do.

00:38:55
Lots of stories cover, yet lots of disgust.

00:38:57
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00:41:15
fence and they would be shooting between the bamboo at the

00:41:19
buildings, you know, just shooting inside.

00:41:22
The Wanted man is Joseph Kony, charged with abducting huge

00:41:25
numbers of children, forcing them to kill and mutilate

00:41:29
innocent victims. Somebody had to pay the price.

00:41:32
Sam. Did that.

00:41:34
Sam Childers never stopped because.

00:41:36
The bad things never stop. There is only one Sam Childer.

00:41:39
There is no one else like him in the world.

00:41:42
And I said to him, I said, would you go now to get Kony in the

00:41:46
Congo? He says without a doubt in a

00:41:48
second. Now it's the DRC.

00:41:50
Tell us what's happening to children in the DRC.

00:41:52
You have ISIS there, you have Islamic State and you have ADF.

00:41:57
Hey, Sandy. Joseph Kony's still alive.

00:41:59
He's in the Congo. And now God has me in the Congo,

00:42:02
you know, So hopefully we'll meet up one day.

00:42:06
But maybe I can lead him to the Lord or send him there.

00:42:09
One or the other, huh?

00:42:23
All right, welcome back to the big, big show.

00:42:25
Here we host George Bouncing, Lance Migliaccio, and our guest,

00:42:30
Mr. Enoch, AKA Mr. Magapalooza. Now, big, big mafia.

00:42:35
Got to throw that in there. But you know, we've been yapping

00:42:38
away about X and this and that. We have our guests here.

00:42:40
And I don't know if our listeners really know.

00:42:43
Like how you got started. Like how'd you get started with

00:42:47
Enoch's news blast? How'd, how'd you know when when

00:42:50
you knew Trump was the guy, the man?

00:42:52
Let's hear, because I don't even know if I really truly know.

00:42:55
So I want to know. Well, I definitely came a

00:42:59
different path than most people. Absolutely.

00:43:03
I I was basically, I grew up in a non a non voter.

00:43:08
I believe elections were selections and I actually

00:43:13
thought that Trump was selected to run against Hillary in 2016

00:43:20
as a way to make Hillary look better to vote for not.

00:43:23
And so when Trump won, I was very surprised.

00:43:26
I, I thought he was a reality TV star.

00:43:29
I thought he was a real estate mogul.

00:43:33
I really had no clue. And like, I won't talk about

00:43:37
this for too long, but I got into finding out what Trump was

00:43:41
really doing in office through the queue drops.

00:43:45
And it was very interesting to me because like, I, I'm very

00:43:48
analytical and I like to verify things.

00:43:50
And like some of the stuff that was coming out, I was just like,

00:43:53
why isn't the mainstream media talking about this?

00:43:55
Why am I finding out? Why am I finding out what

00:43:59
Trump's really doing through back back channels?

00:44:03
You know, why am I finding out, you know, the, how he was going

00:44:08
after the human traffickers and the, the, the sex traffickers

00:44:13
and you know, he's going after big pharma, big banks, the

00:44:16
mainstream media, all that stuff.

00:44:18
I was just like, finally there's someone in my lifetime that's

00:44:20
fighting against all these things I would fight against.

00:44:24
So like, that's immediately how I got my support behind Trump

00:44:27
was once I started seeing what he was doing in office.

00:44:31
So I, I actually never voted in my life until 2018.

00:44:34
I voted in every election since because I now understand how

00:44:38
important that is. So what was going on during the

00:44:41
OR my early days on X is I had an account that I had up to, I

00:44:46
had 186 followers the, the day that we got suspended the

00:44:51
same day as Trump, right? But what I was doing is I

00:44:54
started to understand that there's so many people out there

00:44:57
that don't pay attention to the news and how fast does news come

00:45:02
and go? So I wanted to do something and

00:45:04
I created Enochs News Blast and it's honestly, it's one of the

00:45:07
one of my favorite things to do cuz that's something I'm gonna

00:45:09
do each day for myself anyway. And to be able to share it with

00:45:12
the public and actually help them with their lives.

00:45:15
And I mentioned it a little earlier about how there's people

00:45:19
that, you know, work, you know, 9 to 5-6 days a week, seven days

00:45:23
a week. There's people that are taking

00:45:25
care of their large families, which is amazing.

00:45:28
I love people with large families, but do they have time

00:45:30
to pay attention to the news every day?

00:45:32
And especially if they know the mainstream media is lying to

00:45:34
them, They're not going to be sitting around with

00:45:36
CNNMSNBCABCCBS on their news. So not they're not even going to

00:45:40
be watching that. So what I was doing is I, you

00:45:43
guys remember newspapers, of course.

00:45:45
Yeah. All right, like barely anyone

00:45:48
sees a newspaper anymore, but like you'd wake up in the

00:45:51
morning, you get yourself a cup of coffee, you'd sit down with

00:45:53
the newspaper and the newspaper would, would, would be the

00:45:58
previous day's news, you know, so you'd catch up on the

00:46:02
previous day's news the next morning.

00:46:04
And So what Enox news blast is, I basically was like, all right,

00:46:08
I'm going to take the headlines. So I'm going to strip the

00:46:11
narrative out of the news, and I'm just going to put the

00:46:14
headlines in this news blast. And it's going to be like if

00:46:17
you're just going through the newspaper looking at the

00:46:19
different headlines and all the different articles.

00:46:22
And so you can catch up on the previous day's news by reading

00:46:25
Enoch's News Blast in like less than two minutes.

00:46:29
And it was like, it was just a way for me to put a bunch of

00:46:32
news in a small amount of time as possible.

00:46:36
But one of the things I did that was unique, I believe, with

00:46:39
Enoch's News blast is something I still haven't seen anyone else

00:46:43
doing. I've been doing this for six

00:46:44
years is I I make it into an image like we all know how

00:46:48
popular memes are and how easy it is to steal a meme, spread a

00:46:52
meme, share a meme. It's the same way with Enochs

00:46:55
news blast. I present it as an image and you

00:46:58
can steal that image, download that image, upload that image

00:47:01
anywhere else that you're you're at, whether you're on your you

00:47:04
know your Facebook family group or you know your Telegram

00:47:07
channel. It just made it for not only can

00:47:09
you catch up on your news very fast, but it's also easy to

00:47:12
share, very easy to share. So that's a Enochs news blast.

00:47:17
That's how I got caught up on Trump.

00:47:20
That's how I got to doing what I'm doing today, George.

00:47:24
Very nice, very nice. So all right.

00:47:27
Now what I mean, it's an effective idea that you came up

00:47:30
with and I think it's great. I think people should be

00:47:31
following you. What's your handle on X, Enoch?

00:47:34
What is the exact handle? I'm at News Blast 17 on X

00:47:39
currently. I'd love to have my old account

00:47:43
back. When we all.

00:47:46
But, and that was at ELENOCHLE, which is what I'm also at on

00:47:51
True Social. You know, I like to see that you

00:47:53
want to put up all the this. Is what you're talking about,

00:47:56
right? You're what I have up on the

00:47:58
screen. Yep, that's.

00:48:01
Like a Cliff notes catch up of news.

00:48:02
Which is a great idea, but I'd like to see all the suppression

00:48:06
removed from XI. Think everybody should have a

00:48:07
Ground Zero restart regardless of what they did or didn't do.

00:48:12
I think there was a lot of malicious people in the Jack

00:48:14
Dorsey reign of Twitter terror, you know, 1.0 I think that they

00:48:19
if really, if Elon Musk means what he says and if, if Linda

00:48:23
Yak Reno means what she seems to say at certain times, I think

00:48:26
they should just wipe all of it out and give everybody a fresh

00:48:28
start. Number one, I think they're

00:48:29
losing out in a lot of interaction, a lot of traffic,

00:48:32
which could mean lots more impressions, lots more reviews

00:48:34
and lots more interaction for people.

00:48:36
But at the current stage, there seems to be this controlled

00:48:39
operation that now people are concerned is going to get worse.

00:48:42
I'd like to see it completely go away because freedom of speech

00:48:45
should be freedom of reach. It shouldn't be something that's

00:48:48
that's determined by a higher, you know, God like complex.

00:48:53
So, George, go ahead brother. No, I was going to say now I

00:48:58
know you're about. I know you're a loyal friend,

00:49:01
you're loyalty. People are loyal to you.

00:49:02
Don't screw you over or else they're done with.

00:49:04
But your big thing is bringing unity and people together.

00:49:10
So I want you to tell people what Magapalooza is about.

00:49:13
When is the next one? What was the last one about?

00:49:16
You know, let let let it read. Tell them what?

00:49:18
Because lot of people don't know about Magapalooza.

00:49:22
It could be bigger than Woodstock man.

00:49:25
Well, what I started to see happening with our community is

00:49:28
people started attending Patriot events whether it was Reawakened

00:49:33
America Tour or or any of these other like Patriot events over

00:49:38
the years. And when my community would come

00:49:41
back from these events, people would be not necessarily talking

00:49:44
about what the speakers were staying saying at these events,

00:49:48
but they'll be talking about their online friend group that

00:49:51
they met up, the patriots they met, the dinners they went out

00:49:54
with with their friends. And I started to like just

00:49:57
realize how much the community actually means to each other.

00:50:01
And it just, it just made me open my mind.

00:50:05
Like you take a three day event, like a Reawaken America tour and

00:50:09
you strip it of the paid speakers, you strip it of the

00:50:12
ticket sales. And what I do is I just

00:50:15
basically invite people to go camping for a weekend.

00:50:18
And So what Megapalooza is, it's a three day camping weekend

00:50:22
where the highlight of the event is literally patriots just

00:50:25
spending time with other patriots.

00:50:28
And what have happened now over the years since 2019 is I've

00:50:32
been able to organize these Megapalooza national Patriot

00:50:36
camp outs. And they were such a hit here in

00:50:38
Michigan where I'm at that I've been able to now fundraise

00:50:42
grassroots fundraising for my community and organize them in

00:50:47
different states over the years. Now I've done them in Florida,

00:50:50
Tennessee, Kentucky, last year alone, Pennsylvania, Michigan

00:50:55
and Colorado. And it's, it's just an amazing

00:50:58
thing. And it's like, if that, if I

00:51:01
could, I just want to show everyone what it feels like to

00:51:04
spend time, but spend time with patriots.

00:51:07
It's on the one of the simplest things, but yet I there's not

00:51:12
enough words in the dictionary to describe what it actually

00:51:15
feels like to touch base with your online friend group,

00:51:20
etcetera. We've all lost friends, I guess

00:51:22
being Trump supporters. We've all lost family.

00:51:25
It feels like being Trump supporters.

00:51:26
And sometimes a lot of us do feel alone.

00:51:29
And the mainstream media, the left, they want to make us feel

00:51:33
afraid, afraid to get out, the afraid to show our support,

00:51:36
afraid to wear a mega hat at the grocery store.

00:51:39
And so the these national Patriot Camp outside called it

00:51:43
Megapalooza because I wanted to celebrate our support for making

00:51:45
America great again. And I was doing this in the

00:51:48
years that that Biden was president.

00:51:50
Like it wasn't just, you know, good times.

00:51:52
Like it was, it was exactly kind of like what happened at the

00:51:56
Green Dragon Tavern back in the Revolutionary War era, where the

00:52:00
patriots are meeting up at their local churches or local Taverns

00:52:04
and they're discussing what was important to them.

00:52:07
And like, we want to have the country that we have today if it

00:52:10
wasn't for patriots meeting up in person.

00:52:13
And like, so really that's the basis of these megapalooza

00:52:16
events that I've been organizing.

00:52:18
George. You know, I think it's great.

00:52:21
It is. It's always great, especially

00:52:22
when you meet people that you, you know, you develop

00:52:24
relationships online like this. The first time I met you in

00:52:27
person, and Lance met you in person, was in Michigan.

00:52:30
You meet a lot of great people and I like.

00:52:32
We always enjoy that because it's funny when you meet

00:52:34
somebody in person, right? They have an avatar, George,

00:52:37
right? And all of a sudden you meet him

00:52:38
face to face. But you could oh shit, you could

00:52:40
also, but you could also tell, tell who's genuine, who's you

00:52:43
know, who's an ass or full of it.

00:52:44
And I'll give an example, one legged patriot.

00:52:47
We met him in Michigan. Dude gave gave me his phone in

00:52:50
the hotspot to try to stream. And we you know, we just met, we

00:52:53
got introduced. You know, that just shows you

00:52:55
what type of person he is. Great person.

00:52:57
You know, I met rainstorm 17 in North Carolina.

00:53:01
You know, crazy Mary. You think crazy Mary like ma'am

00:53:06
Crazy Mary's another one. I met her in North Carolina.

00:53:08
I didn't even meet her yet and she was giving she was giving me

00:53:11
her hotspot. Never even met the woman.

00:53:13
Somebody called her and there you go.

00:53:15
But you think the word, the name Crazy Mary, that damn what's

00:53:19
she's the sweetest? Person The handlers don't always

00:53:20
match the people. It's interesting people that.

00:53:22
Met Laurie too, in North Carolina with.

00:53:26
We'll end up with a handle name that you would think would

00:53:27
describe them in a different way than you meet in person.

00:53:29
And they're so friendly and so gracious and so helpful.

00:53:33
We've met a lot of great people from around the country at

00:53:35
different events and at different times and been asked

00:53:37
to come to events where at first we were hesitant to go and then

00:53:40
we went to and were like, wow, that was really worth going to,

00:53:42
you know? But it's a mixed, it's a mixed

00:53:45
bag. You never really know when you

00:53:46
go to an outside event how it's going to be.

00:53:48
That was especially tough in North Carolina because there was

00:53:50
no way to really stream an event that they they had us like in a

00:53:53
prison yard gym. I was, I was worried that I

00:53:55
needed a Shank. Sorry.

00:53:57
I started grinding down a spoon after I was there for a while

00:54:00
because it felt like we were in that cage back there.

00:54:02
There was no signal. But you know, you because you

00:54:04
always want to. One of the things we always talk

00:54:06
about in the show is educating and unifying the country one

00:54:08
episode of time because really you can't.

00:54:11
I, I truly believe the whole Republican Democrat part, you

00:54:15
know, non partisan story is just it's misdirection.

00:54:19
It's the David Copperfield, it's how they keep us infighting

00:54:22
because what they want is division and chaos.

00:54:24
Really what it is, is Americans. It should be Americans that care

00:54:27
about the country versus Americans that don't care about

00:54:29
the country. That would be more accurate of

00:54:31
what the nation is. And to me, a lot of it.

00:54:34
It's interesting that George and I have engaged with a lot of

00:54:36
liberals, a lot of non partisans, and they wouldn't

00:54:38
have us believe that we really agree with them on 85 or 90% of

00:54:42
the topics we agree on A lot of the stuff we don't agree, You

00:54:46
know, do they want a strong country?

00:54:47
Do they want a protected border? Do they want good education

00:54:50
system for the student? Do they want safety and security

00:54:52
in their homes? You know, the majority of them

00:54:54
say yes, we want all that. I'm not saying we agree on

00:54:56
everything, but to think what the news tells us and what

00:55:00
mainstream media tells us and what the political, you know,

00:55:03
our political leadership tells us that we're not supposed to

00:55:06
get along and we're supposed to hate each other.

00:55:08
And I don't believe that to be true.

00:55:09
I think America is a strong country.

00:55:11
One of the things I've learned by organizing these camping

00:55:15
events specifically is we're, we, we're talking in the first,

00:55:19
you know, first part of the show about some of the debate and

00:55:22
division within our own community.

00:55:24
And especially online. Well, when you're around the

00:55:27
campfire, that stuff doesn't matter.

00:55:29
You don't get those heated debates like you do online where

00:55:33
people are just at each other's throats yelling at each other.

00:55:36
You can have like this is like our community's pretty broad and

00:55:42
there's people that, you know, believe some things that other

00:55:45
people don't believe, you know, like it's kind of interesting.

00:55:49
But when you're around the campfire, those those topics are

00:55:53
not the important topics that are being discussed.

00:55:56
And it's like with this national camp outs, what I've seen in

00:55:59
person now is that our, you know, local action equals

00:56:03
national impact is something General Flynn's been preaching

00:56:06
on Unite the tribe, something that Boom color's been preaching

00:56:10
on. And it's like, it's so

00:56:12
important. Like you once you see it

00:56:15
happening, Like I so my county up here in Michigan, we have a,

00:56:20
a constitutional sheriff. So even though our governor did

00:56:23
the draconian COVID lockdowns, our sheriff in my county was

00:56:28
like, you can keep your restaurants open.

00:56:31
I'm not going to be taking people to jail or ticketing them

00:56:34
for not wearing a mask at Walmart.

00:56:36
It was, it was really cool to see that.

00:56:38
So I can discuss what the importance of having a

00:56:40
constitutional sheriff in your county, even in a, a, a quote UN

00:56:43
quote blue state. But other people were talking

00:56:47
about what it was like to take over their school, their local

00:56:50
school boards, because, you know, they have family and it's

00:56:52
like we had a, you know, like the education of our children is

00:56:56
very, very important topic for our community.

00:56:59
So like people were learning how they could get involved with

00:57:02
their local school boards. People were learning how to get

00:57:04
involved with electing a local sheriff.

00:57:06
They're, they're learning all these different things that

00:57:09
might not benefit me here in my county.

00:57:13
But when I go to Pennsylvania, the Bucks County, I did.

00:57:16
That's where I had a megapalooza this year.

00:57:19
And then Bucks County blew up. It was in the news everywhere.

00:57:23
And there's even a woman that attended the Bucks County Mega

00:57:27
Palooza that took the videotape of them shutting their lines

00:57:30
down, their election lines down early.

00:57:32
Her name's Kellyanne. Shout out Kellyanne.

00:57:35
And it's just like, it's so amazing to see how local impact,

00:57:39
local action does have national impact.

00:57:41
And I I literally see it from around the campfire across the

00:57:44
country. Yeah, and I, I love that kind of

00:57:48
stuff, that unification where you get mixed groups and you get

00:57:50
lots of information. And of course there is this

00:57:52
thing that I've talked about with George quite a bit.

00:57:56
Technology has really changed people's ability to communicate.

00:57:59
And when you get away from the keyboards and you get away from

00:58:02
the cell phones and you get away from that, I think it's great to

00:58:04
interact with people directly because, you know, we used to go

00:58:07
out to dinner and we used to go out to, you know, and again, I'm

00:58:10
an older guy, so I, I remember a period when we didn't have cell

00:58:13
phones. You know, the, the closest thing

00:58:14
to a cell phone was the big Motorola brick, but it wasn't

00:58:17
sending a text message. It wasn't connected to your

00:58:19
e-mail. If you had that phone, it was

00:58:21
usually strictly for business. It wasn't to socialize.

00:58:25
And I think that's the great part about what you're doing is

00:58:28
when you get people in person, maybe they aren't going to be

00:58:31
focused on selfies and they're not going to be focused on

00:58:33
what's going on in their cell phone for a while.

00:58:34
I'd like to see more of that. I think it's really been tough

00:58:37
when you look at our kids and you look at how they're

00:58:39
influenced by Instagram and TikTok and other platforms and

00:58:43
they're so focused on, oh, somebody doesn't like me.

00:58:45
Oh, I didn't get enough likes, I didn't get enough oppressions.

00:58:47
Oh, nobody's commenting. I don't know why I never go

00:58:50
viral. And they alternate to their

00:58:51
behavior gets more extreme because they, they, that's how

00:58:54
they get their, you know, their endorphins.

00:58:56
We don't, we didn't get that. We loved going out to

00:58:58
nightclubs. We had a big group of people at

00:58:59
our tables. We'd be sitting there joking and

00:59:01
laughing. You were communicating.

00:59:03
You weren't worried about whether or not your picture on

00:59:05
social media for the night was going to get enough likes.

00:59:08
And that's what I think what you're, you're doing at these

00:59:10
events. People get to connect in person.

00:59:13
We love that. We, I mean, I would love to do

00:59:15
more of it, but it's tricky, right?

00:59:16
Because every one of those events, not maybe the camping

00:59:18
events, but when you go to these events like North Carolina or

00:59:21
you go to an event in New York or otherwise, there's always

00:59:23
expenses. You're always trying to manage

00:59:25
those in relation to all the other priorities for us.

00:59:28
We're always trying to figure out what's the next growth for

00:59:30
the show. How do we improve and provide a

00:59:32
product for the community that's important?

00:59:34
How do we help unify the country?

00:59:36
You know, what do people want to know about?

00:59:38
Because we bring on people. We had a great guy that had just

00:59:40
won the big lawsuit about fluoride in the water.

00:59:44
And we've got Don Zinger coming on who just won that.

00:59:46
He'd won that big case against Chevron and got attacked for

00:59:49
them, you know, destroying the, the, the some of the

00:59:53
rainforests. But it's, you know, you start

00:59:55
looking at the dynamics of what people really enjoy hearing

00:59:58
about. And, you know, it's tricky.

01:00:00
Politics has a real, it's very often a very kind of a negative,

01:00:04
you know, environment because there's all these people that

01:00:06
behind the scenes want one thing or another be believed because

01:00:09
it allows them to generate, you know, their revenue and their

01:00:13
income. We know that right now there's

01:00:15
just so many things like that dark money, foreign money, book

01:00:18
deals, insider trading. We know that they hold on to

01:00:21
power ruthlessly. I mean, I don't even know how

01:00:24
Mitch McConnell's still walking around.

01:00:26
He seems like he's not in good health and he doesn't really, he

01:00:29
doesn't seem like he's really able to put a sentence together

01:00:32
anymore. But they want to keep him in

01:00:33
there, you know, So I don't know, George, what's going on,

01:00:35
brother? Is he working away there?

01:00:37
In the chat, he's just doing something, yeah.

01:00:39
A lot of people in the chat tonight and having a good time.

01:00:41
They love Enoch, I can tell you that.

01:00:44
I mean, who doesn't love Enoch? Only idiots.

01:00:48
I think he's always done a great job of posting and I think it

01:00:50
does provide a great service to people.

01:00:52
And it is a, you know, when we're overwhelmed with

01:00:55
everything in our own lives, whether and social media is

01:00:58
overwhelming in its own way, George and I have to spend so

01:01:00
much time on it to have something that provides a

01:01:03
service like a Cliff Notes version summary in the news.

01:01:06
And that's what we do on our global finance forum.

01:01:08
That's the wrap up of financial news for the week, maybe the

01:01:10
biggest stuff for the week. And we try to do that on the

01:01:13
show too. We go through all these

01:01:14
different sources and we have lots of people around the globe

01:01:17
that send us information. We try to provide something that

01:01:19
kind of condenses what I would consider the most important

01:01:22
topics for the day on the Big League Show.

01:01:25
So we always think that that's relevant.

01:01:26
And of course, getting the right interviews, bringing people on

01:01:30
and actually have the real facts and the truth.

01:01:33
And they're experts in their field.

01:01:35
I don't care whether it's about fluoride or soil remediation.

01:01:38
You know, if you look at the, if you look at what some of the top

01:01:40
shows do, I think what they're doing is that they are the news

01:01:44
now and they are the information source.

01:01:45
Because does anybody trust mainstream media anymore?

01:01:48
Is there anybody that still trusts it other than maybe the

01:01:50
much older set in the United States that doesn't really know

01:01:53
about alt media? What are you thinking?

01:01:54
Not is there anybody still? Actually, this is a perfect

01:01:57
opportunity opportunity for me to jump in and flip the script

01:02:00
and ask you 2 a question this. This is a big, big show.

01:02:05
We asked the questions. Yeah, bro.

01:02:08
Well, I was, I was lucky enough to be invited on the Patriots

01:02:11
Helping Patriots News Network to interview all their podcasters.

01:02:16
And I was, I was also invited on the Brainstorm Army Network to

01:02:22
interview their podcasters. And here I am sitting with two

01:02:26
more great podcasters. So I, I have to ask you guys

01:02:29
this question. What do you guys think the role

01:02:34
of podcast as media is going to be moving forward?

01:02:37
Because we've seen such a just from 2020 to now, we've seen

01:02:42
such an increase in the importance of podcasters in our

01:02:45
community, especially with what you were talking about Lance

01:02:48
being, you know, we are the news now.

01:02:50
I'm just interested to see what maybe what you guys think the

01:02:53
future of podcastings are platforms that you guys are

01:02:57
building are going to be moving forward.

01:03:00
George. You know, it's going to be it

01:03:08
depends. Like listen in order to sustain

01:03:11
a podcast, you know, everything costs money, whether it's, you

01:03:14
know, equipment, you know, paying for rumble, you know, a

01:03:18
month, a monthly fee. I mean, it time every you know,

01:03:22
if you're taking away time frame your family or, or you can't,

01:03:25
like you're going to take away time from your job.

01:03:28
It's, it's, it's a daunting, it's daunting task.

01:03:34
As far as us, as long as the media keep the mainstream media

01:03:38
keeps doing what they're doing, we'll, we'll have an outlet.

01:03:41
How, how will people sustain? It's up to them.

01:03:46
You know, some people like, if they can do it just for fun,

01:03:48
they want to do whatever. Or some people want to do it for

01:03:50
a living. It's it's not an easy thing if

01:03:54
you want to try to do it for a living because we don't get the

01:03:58
podcasters, I don't think get enough recognition by by by any

01:04:02
means. And unless you already have a

01:04:05
big established name out there, you'll be all right.

01:04:08
But if you don't and he's trying to build, it's tough.

01:04:11
And I love Trump, but we don't mean nobody.

01:04:14
Has anybody ever got any recognition any podcasts you're

01:04:16
talking about that? We all been from Brainstorm to

01:04:19
just Jodi, her whole network us a bunch of people have been

01:04:22
fighting for Trump since nine, since you went down the

01:04:26
escalator. But all the grief that we took

01:04:30
in 2020 when when he got when he got stolen and everybody's

01:04:33
getting cancelled. We're getting all getting

01:04:34
cancelled and and you get nothing, not even recognition.

01:04:38
Imagine if Trump just said, Oh, you all need to watch the

01:04:41
patriots helping patriots network.

01:04:42
Jodie, she's one of my faves. Big Meg.

01:04:45
Oh my God, I love them boys. Enoch.

01:04:49
I mean, he ready to retweet, you know, you know, but you don't

01:04:52
get nothing. It's like they expect it from

01:04:54
us. No, you're right about Trump,

01:04:58
but on lesser note, you have people like General Flynn, who's

01:05:02
I actually see working hand in hand with a lot of the

01:05:06
podcasters now. He's been kind of going part of

01:05:10
my language ape shit with jumping on podcast and getting

01:05:14
his word out. So I'm I'm seeing more important

01:05:17
people supporting the role of going on a podcast rather than

01:05:20
going on Fox News or something like that to get their word out.

01:05:25
You know, like if let's say they have a book coming out, you

01:05:28
know, like their book tours used to be.

01:05:29
I'm going on CBS, I'm going on NBC, I'm going on MSNBC.

01:05:33
I'm seeing it more myself going on podcast.

01:05:36
So I agree with what you're saying, George, absolutely.

01:05:41
But I've seen just a such an increase of the honestly,

01:05:45
podcast to me are are blowing up.

01:05:47
Not not necessarily with viewers or money, but with the

01:05:52
recognition. Like when you when you when you

01:05:55
hear stories about how podcasters might even be invited

01:05:59
into the White House press room. So I could already tell you

01:06:02
right now, there's like 2-3 of them already.

01:06:04
They're already been chosen. They're big name people and it's

01:06:08
already been done. That's that.

01:06:10
But if you think about it, if you take let's take Jodie's

01:06:13
network Brainstorm or us or you, if they want us to be in a White

01:06:18
House press corps or in a briefing room, first of all, it

01:06:22
costs money. You need to live there because

01:06:24
you're there every day. So now you need housing, food.

01:06:26
Washington, DC is expensive travel.

01:06:30
You go, you follow the president on the Air Force One, you pay

01:06:33
for your meals. They don't give you meals.

01:06:35
Nobody in that everybody in that plane pays for meals.

01:06:39
That's just it's, it's, that's how it is.

01:06:41
So how do you expect unless you got a big sponsorship all of a

01:06:45
sudden? Listen, I'm going to be one of

01:06:48
the White House correspondents, all right?

01:06:50
We'll sponsor you. But if you don't get that,

01:06:52
you're, you're screwed. So it's, you know, and they

01:06:55
already picked out the names, the three people.

01:06:58
I don't want to say who they are, but come on.

01:07:00
Well, this is what I honestly love about you, George is like,

01:07:02
you're definitely not afraid to speak your mind.

01:07:05
And I, I absolutely, I absolutely love it.

01:07:07
Like for real? Well, my take is that alt media

01:07:12
is proven itself to be an important part of the narrative.

01:07:17
And I think what we got when you when you look at alt media, I

01:07:20
think what people's expectation and what really is happened over

01:07:23
the last really since Trump. I think George defined it from

01:07:27
the point that Trump came down the escalator and with the

01:07:30
growth on the verticals. Truth and transparency, We don't

01:07:33
get that in main stream media because they are controlled.

01:07:36
They are controlled. You see it in the DEI rhetoric.

01:07:39
You see it in the financing that's behind them.

01:07:41
You hear stories about BlackRock and others funding sources.

01:07:43
You know that George Soros is trying to buy Odyssey Radio.

01:07:46
You can imagine what the controlled narrative will be if

01:07:48
they allow that to go through. That shouldn't happen.

01:07:51
But, and I believe that the, the podcast, the video cast shows,

01:07:54
you know, the and the, and the News Radio stations that have

01:07:57
popped up like our nationally syndicated show.

01:08:01
Sorry. Yeah, that's OK.

01:08:02
Sorry George, I just heard myself.

01:08:04
So the point is I agree that I think we're an important part of

01:08:07
it. But I think what really has to

01:08:09
happen, what I'd like to see is growth in the representation of

01:08:13
shows that are doing important work or the shows or or networks

01:08:16
like Jodie's network. I think that we're that we still

01:08:19
don't have the support to access the real sponsorships, the real

01:08:23
hosting, the real monetization verticals, just like we were

01:08:27
talking about the suppression on X.

01:08:28
If they really believe in we are the news now, we are the media

01:08:33
now, they really believe that investigative journalism that

01:08:36
comes from the podcast level, not the big syndications of the

01:08:39
Fox News and the CNBCS. Then why don't they give us more

01:08:42
opportunity? If you really look Elon Musk,

01:08:45
he's done some spaces events where there was smaller

01:08:47
representations of podcast hosts otherwise, but you don't see him

01:08:51
doing interviews on what I would consider even some of the mid

01:08:54
range top podcast shows. So, you know, why do they

01:08:57
continue like Adam Ross, who never supported Donald Trump,

01:09:00
got a Donald Trump interview. Shawn Ryan got an interview.

01:09:03
But I believe Shawn Ryan deserved that interview because

01:09:05
he always comes in the top two or three or a top ten at least,

01:09:09
just like Joe Rogan. But you can't grow the other

01:09:12
shows. Let's face it, we've been

01:09:14
extremely loyal to that side of the aisle.

01:09:17
We we to our own detriment. I mean, like I told you, George

01:09:20
and I had that offer for 25 grand a month.

01:09:22
Had we turned on Donald Trump and turned on the community, we

01:09:25
could have taken that. I'm sure a lot of people

01:09:27
probably would have taken it because at that point that was a

01:09:29
lot of money. We're talking about $300 a

01:09:31
year just and endorsement. So, but those agencies are out

01:09:35
there, they're looking to, to, to subvert people.

01:09:38
So if you're going to stay truthful, but they, but they're,

01:09:40
and again, I think the communities are great.

01:09:41
You're right. We get incredible support from

01:09:43
the community. We have a great people in the

01:09:45
chat. We get lots of views and

01:09:46
impressions on, you know, even on Rumble, we get tons of views

01:09:49
that exceed what most, most of people get over there for the

01:09:52
number of followers we have on that platform.

01:09:54
We got 240 some odd 1000 followers over on Frank's speech

01:09:58
as an example. But your dog?

01:10:00
Yeah, love the dog. That's that's Banksy.

01:10:03
Bring Banksy on, man. Banksy's supposed to be under

01:10:06
control of the Gidget, but she's she's allowing him to whimper.

01:10:09
Banksy on, man, you got to bring him on the air.

01:10:11
Yeah, Banksy. Live.

01:10:13
I thought it was a rat dog in the background.

01:10:14
Yeah, that's, that's my rat dog, but he's needs to go into the

01:10:17
bedroom now. He needs a time out.

01:10:20
All right. So anyway, yeah, they, they

01:10:21
heard him on the show. Gig is why?

01:10:23
Yeah. So anyway, my point is this.

01:10:26
I would like to see what I think for the future of podcast hosts

01:10:30
and podcast networks and the people that are doing what I

01:10:33
think is incredibly important work because educating, unifying

01:10:37
and providing real information is never going to go away as

01:10:41
being important. Let's face it, open source

01:10:43
intelligence and information has always been top, top of the food

01:10:47
chain, important when it comes to things.

01:10:49
But I think what we need to see is growth in the agency and

01:10:52
management representation of these podcasts where they can go

01:10:54
to somebody like Jodi ourselves or somebody else has got a good

01:10:57
show and say, I want to represent you.

01:10:59
I'm going to get you some of the big sponsors.

01:11:00
I'm going to get you some of that, some of the non woke I you

01:11:03
know, companies because again, Steve Crowder, it's easy for him

01:11:05
to get a company like Sig Sauer. It's easy for a guy like Shawn

01:11:09
Ryan to get Sig Sauer is an endorsement because they've got

01:11:11
lots of impressions. But to grow us and for us to be

01:11:14
able to double down and pay for the advertising and pay for the

01:11:17
growth. Because if you don't have Donald

01:11:19
Trump say watch Enoch or you should guys should subscribe to

01:11:22
Enoch because he puts out great information or you need to

01:11:26
really pay attention to what's going on the big Ming show.

01:11:28
If you don't get that. And I think that they should

01:11:31
have done a lot of that. In my opinion, I think post of

01:11:33
the election, they should have an event at Mar a Lago that's

01:11:36
completely paid for. They ought to pay for

01:11:38
everybody's coach ticket and they should have vibe 500 to

01:11:41
1000 of the top podcast show, News Radio blog, people that

01:11:46
supported him unequivocally through his time in the last 10

01:11:51
years. Those people should all be

01:11:52
invited and they should be thanked for the work they did.

01:11:55
I want to, I don't. Think that will ever happen?

01:11:57
And that's the kind of thing I'd like to see in podcast hosting

01:12:00
and alt radio. I'd like to see more support

01:12:02
where they say these are great shows.

01:12:04
Get over there and watch them. You know, I want to add

01:12:06
something to what your question about like podcasts, you know,

01:12:08
if they're going to be around, and I know Lance is going to

01:12:12
agree with me on this. One of the things with like

01:12:14
trying to get sponsors, advertisers, a lot of these

01:12:17
people companies, they want to give you a promo code.

01:12:20
Meanwhile here you, all these people are all these podcasters

01:12:23
are promoting their company and you you'll make, you'll get a

01:12:27
percentage or whatever if there's sales, but meanwhile

01:12:30
they're getting all this, all this free advertising.

01:12:34
That's why we we are. Building their brand.

01:12:36
We don't we don't do that. We stopped that because my I

01:12:39
love Michael and Dell, but he he over he blew that up with the

01:12:43
promo code. Most people don't, you know,

01:12:45
they forget about it. My own mods forgot about a promo

01:12:48
code we had now mods and bought stuff from my cost.

01:12:53
We did. The only person we did it for

01:12:55
was General Flynn. We told him we don't want no

01:12:57
money. Donate it, keep it, do whatever

01:12:59
you want. It's for him.

01:13:01
We did it. You know, that's a different

01:13:03
story. We're happy to do that, but we

01:13:05
won't do that. It's not worth it.

01:13:07
You're sitting there promoting, promoting, promoting for a promo

01:13:09
code. Well, I've been rebuilding my

01:13:13
accounts on the platforms after, you know, being suspended.

01:13:16
Yeah, the last few months I really, especially since Trump

01:13:20
won the election, I really been trying to just introduce to my

01:13:24
supporters podcast, like your own.

01:13:27
Yeah. And the ones I was speaking

01:13:29
about earlier. So I'm gonna try to do what I

01:13:32
can from a grassroots level. You know, I can't I'm not this

01:13:36
big name where I can just like tell people to tune in and you

01:13:39
get 1000 followers, 1000 more views, etcetera.

01:13:42
Yeah, but I'm gonna like, I see the importance myself and like

01:13:47
I'm not a content consumer. Like do you know how much like

01:13:50
out of all, all the people that you know, whether it's PHP or

01:13:53
Brainstorm or you know, the, the mafia here, you guys make so

01:13:58
much content like we, there's actually not enough time in a

01:14:00
day to watch it all. So there's like this over

01:14:04
saturation as well with the amount of time like when the

01:14:08
podcast is 2-3 hours long, you know, like how many of those can

01:14:12
you really watch a day? If, if one?

01:14:15
So like I, I'm seeing like there are these issues, but I'm just

01:14:19
glad that we're to a point where we can start attacking these

01:14:22
issues. And something I also, I don't

01:14:26
know, something I actually don't like is when you have a big

01:14:28
group that like kind of takes all the views away from all the

01:14:32
people that are coming up. And like there's people that

01:14:35
have great podcasts and they're great podcasters, they're great

01:14:38
personalities, but no one sees them.

01:14:41
So like, how do we get people to actually see some of these,

01:14:46
especially when we're getting the suppression on acts and on

01:14:49
social media as well. So like it's, it's something I'm

01:14:53
kind of passionate about, which is why I took the opportunity to

01:14:57
ask you 2 gentlemen about it tonight.

01:15:00
Yeah, it's, I think it's a great observation.

01:15:02
You know it, That's that's the tricky part.

01:15:04
Because let's face it, to grow a show, you either need some

01:15:06
incredible viral moment. Like for example, if the FBI

01:15:09
kicked in my door right now, threw in some flash bangs and

01:15:12
drugged me out of the studio, that might go viral.

01:15:14
It's not really the way I want to go viral.

01:15:16
But you never really know what's going to do it.

01:15:18
So a viral moment is one option. The other option is a shout out

01:15:23
from powerful groups. You know, Dan Bongino did this

01:15:26
for some individuals. Their shows grew rapidly.

01:15:28
Or if you have, you know, somebody in staff at Rumble or

01:15:32
on X that likes what you're doing.

01:15:34
Let's face it, if tomorrow they took all the suppression labels

01:15:37
off our accounts, the big men show probably go rapidly on X

01:15:40
because we bring on a wide variety of of, you know,

01:15:43
interviews, for example, I think probably a wider variety than a

01:15:46
lot. We had, you know, Doctor Aubrey

01:15:48
de Grey on, we had Jillian Michaels, we had Tito Ortiz, you

01:15:51
know, including General Flynn, Roger Stone and the, and the

01:15:54
really the the anchor of our community, people that we think

01:15:57
are important. But it's interesting, for

01:15:58
example, right now, we had a couple of big interviews for our

01:16:02
show that were confirmed by staff for people that are in the

01:16:05
Trump cabinet. I won't name names.

01:16:07
They were supposed to come on the show.

01:16:08
And then there was a moratorium rundown from the top, not Trump,

01:16:11
but some of his staff said, oh, we can't do any other shows

01:16:14
right now. You have to approve all

01:16:15
interviews. Well, the only interviews that

01:16:17
are approving are the same, you know, CNS NS and the MSNBCS and

01:16:22
Fox News or CB s s. A lot of those groups were the

01:16:25
same groups that attacked them non-stop for the last four

01:16:28
years. Why are they doing interviews

01:16:30
there and not doing interviews on Jodi's show or Brainstorm or

01:16:34
you know, Steve, Steve Murray, Lieutenant Colonel Steve Murray.

01:16:37
It seems like we took the bullet and that would help us grow our

01:16:41
show. Let's face it, if Tom Holman

01:16:42
comes on our show or Tulsi Gabbard, Corey Mills, different

01:16:46
people come on the show, that's going to help us grow because

01:16:49
people going to say, wow, that must be an important show

01:16:50
because they did that show. But when they continue to just

01:16:53
do Joe Rogan and they do Sean Ryan and they do the top shows

01:16:57
only, well, of course that helps those top shows continue to

01:17:00
secure their top position. But it doesn't get all these

01:17:03
other shows, you know, where there's great hosts, great

01:17:05
information, or even the nationally syndicated people.

01:17:08
The people have nationally syndicated radio shows like Joe

01:17:10
Pags. Why doesn't Joe Peggs get those

01:17:13
interviews? He does a great job.

01:17:14
He's a great radio host. Why doesn't he get more of

01:17:16
those? Even Rodger Stone, who's so well

01:17:18
connected, he's not, you know, he can't get the cabinet

01:17:21
position people even right now because they've kind of put them

01:17:23
well, why should that be? That shouldn't happen.

01:17:26
There shouldn't be a moratorium if if you know, one of the

01:17:28
things that I feel like was not correct for the community is

01:17:31
they felt like we were this already confirmed echo chamber

01:17:34
that was going to work for them and do whatever was necessary

01:17:38
regardless of what they did with us.

01:17:41
But you know, it is so important with people, especially after a

01:17:43
hard run like this. Just because they won doesn't

01:17:46
mean the work's done. And just because they won

01:17:49
doesn't mean they shouldn't say thank you in a big way to

01:17:51
everybody. You know, I, I, I don't know why

01:17:53
people aren't getting more personalized letters from Donald

01:17:55
Trump. He could sit down and sign 1000

01:17:57
letters over a couple of days and thank all the people that

01:18:00
really went to bat for him. Forget us.

01:18:02
Don't even talk about me. Let's talk about all the other

01:18:03
people that deserve that letter. Why can't he pay for He's got

01:18:07
plenty of money left in his war chest from running.

01:18:09
There's nothing against the rules that says he can't throw

01:18:12
an event to thank the people that worked on his campaign.

01:18:15
Why doesn't he throw an event at Mar a Lago?

01:18:17
Why doesn't he spend a couple of 1 bucks and throw a

01:18:20
crazy event, invite everybody down.

01:18:22
The people want to play golf, could play golf.

01:18:23
He could do something where he could really rent out the whole

01:18:26
facility and thank people. But that's not happening.

01:18:28
But but I guarantee this that the top hosts that are picked

01:18:32
will be the names that we already are very familiar with

01:18:34
that are already highly successful.

01:18:36
It will not be the people that got suspended and took

01:18:40
additional hits and they will not be given that opportunity.

01:18:42
They will not be escalated to the top and that's the.

01:18:45
I myself, let me speak for the community and thank you guys for

01:18:49
your transparency here on this podcast.

01:18:53
This is very important for the community and you don't see a

01:18:57
lot of podcasters come out with the transparency that you guys

01:19:00
have shown just on this episode alone.

01:19:02
So I just want to say thank you and I appreciate that.

01:19:05
Yeah, we appreciate that. We do try to make sure that when

01:19:08
you guys, when we do get Fact Check, of course, if we make a

01:19:11
mistake on the show, we want people to tell us so we can go

01:19:14
back and retract it. It doesn't happen very often

01:19:15
because George has caught some things that I thought were real

01:19:19
or factual and he's bought them before I did that.

01:19:21
They weren't. And we tried to go back and fix

01:19:23
it, but it's been very rare because we do choose how to do

01:19:25
the work. And we do want people to know

01:19:27
they can trust this show, they can trust the radio show, they

01:19:30
can trust our global finance show and soon to be our crypto

01:19:32
show. You know, because we want to

01:19:34
give a product that everybody appreciates and it allows them

01:19:38
to grow and protect their families and grow their families

01:19:41
and grow their network. And it can come to the show for

01:19:43
all sorts of information I'm excited about.

01:19:45
When it comes to health topics, George and I love doing health

01:19:48
topics because people get the benefit of improving in their

01:19:50
lives. So, George, you were going to

01:19:52
say something, I think. Yeah.

01:19:53
So, you know, another issue is a lot of podcasters, you know,

01:19:58
there's too many egos and they let their egos get in their way.

01:20:02
We're truly about to move in Unity.

01:20:04
We all should be trying to support and help each other.

01:20:08
And you see that, and that's why you see that.

01:20:11
The the I know it's for a fact that.

01:20:15
The Trump administration pulled away from certain podcasters

01:20:18
that are bigger account, bigger names because too much BS going

01:20:21
on. But I want to bring something

01:20:23
up. Well, that happened with the

01:20:25
Dilly meme team, didn't it? I don't want, I don't want leave

01:20:29
that out. Don't worry, Let's not.

01:20:30
I don't. That's, that's not our our

01:20:32
business. So like Susan Wiles, Trump's

01:20:36
chief of staff, I don't, I don't trust her.

01:20:39
I really don't. I mean, I don't know why he

01:20:42
chose her, but there's a lot of behind the scenes talk about her

01:20:46
and you know, who knows? I don't personally know her, so

01:20:52
it's hard for me to pass judgement.

01:20:53
But there are people that are concerned there.

01:20:55
There are some people around Trump that I'm not comfortable

01:20:57
with and I'm I never be comfortable with.

01:20:59
Round one. There were lots.

01:21:00
This time there's far less. I like a lot of his choices.

01:21:03
I like the people he's chosen. I just hope it moves forward and

01:21:05
I'd like to see that. Big thank you.

01:21:07
Yet I'd like to see Donald Trump go out of his way because let's

01:21:10
face it, a shout out on Donald Trump's, you know, profile on X

01:21:16
or on true social could can be a huge help for people.

01:21:19
For for Donald Trump to give some people at what I would

01:21:22
consider the mid range shows or lower echelon shows to give them

01:21:25
5 or 10 minutes on their show. You know.

01:21:27
What? Imagine the difference that

01:21:28
could make for those shows. And that's how you thank people.

01:21:31
It doesn't cost money necessarily.

01:21:33
A letter sent out by Donald Trump is fairly inexpensive to

01:21:36
all the shows, something that says, hey, thanks for all the

01:21:38
work you did. Let me give an example.

01:21:40
I needed you let. Me give an example, let's let's

01:21:42
talk true social when they when they open true social and it was

01:21:45
only embedded in the beginning. Lance and I were working with

01:21:48
True Social, helping them out in a lot of different areas where

01:21:51
onboarding people for them, helping them, you know, VIP

01:21:54
people, big names. I wrote their verification

01:21:59
policy for True Social. I'm the one I wrote.

01:22:01
They, the people that are working, are great people, but

01:22:03
they didn't have a lot of experience with social media and

01:22:07
you know, we didn't get an invite nowhere, him and I or

01:22:09
nothing. We didn't get invited to that

01:22:12
last true social event. That was several months ago, you

01:22:15
would have thought with all the people we onboarded for them,

01:22:17
because we also brought, they wanted to test the system.

01:22:20
So we bought a large portion of the trained community that was

01:22:22
really popular. We bought lots of VI PS over

01:22:25
there. We got them on boarded in the

01:22:27
manner that they needed to be. George and I and George did the

01:22:29
majority of the work on the VIP policy.

01:22:31
We helped them to determine how to authenticate and do what was

01:22:35
necessary to give people their verification check marks.

01:22:39
We didn't get so much as a thank you, let alone an invite to an

01:22:41
event. And to be honest with you,

01:22:42
George and I have never been invited to Mar a Lago for

01:22:44
anything that wasn't a paid event, Which I think is

01:22:47
interesting in itself that you would think with the work we've

01:22:49
done over the years. And because let's face it, the

01:22:51
suspension I took over at X and probably the labels I'm still

01:22:54
suffering were because we were outing the Leonardo Spa

01:22:57
satellite hat, which was Italy Gate.

01:22:59
That particular story. We were on that story with Maria

01:23:02
Zack and we outed lots of stuff. George and I had contacts within

01:23:05
the Italian Secret Service that were giving us direct

01:23:07
information about how these individuals have come in, hacked

01:23:10
the satellite. They were working within the US

01:23:13
Embassy. So there was nefarious people

01:23:14
inside the US Embassy in Italy. But that whole story is what

01:23:18
really started us on, on getting just battered on Twitter.

01:23:22
They, they, you know, that's right.

01:23:23
The suppression started and then Donald Trump got suspended.

01:23:26
And then I looked in my account was suspended.

01:23:27
And it took us a long time to come back.

01:23:30
But you would think that they would be able to go back in the

01:23:32
history of these accounts and clear that kind of stuff up.

01:23:35
But that's the issue. That's the problem.

01:23:37
And I think what we need to see is more.

01:23:39
Unity. Yeah, more unity.

01:23:42
I'd like to see more unity. Not so much.

01:23:43
We have a great community and we have great people around us and

01:23:46
we appreciate that and we're lucky we're getting, we get

01:23:47
treated very well over on Rumble.

01:23:49
They really go out of our way to look for us and, and, and help

01:23:52
us grow over there. So that's been beneficial.

01:23:54
Rumble and locals has been great, but I'd like to see that

01:23:57
same kind of growth everywhere because we're grow.

01:23:58
We grow over on Frank's Beach. We grow over and Rumble and

01:24:00
Locals, you know, we had a couple accounts on YouTube that

01:24:03
got suspended, but you know how that is you talk about anything

01:24:06
vaccine hesitancy or anything with vaccines and it's a is an

01:24:09
issue. So the point when we did some

01:24:11
stuff, we posted some CDC and some Vera's information, which

01:24:14
we thought would be innocuous and it wasn't boom out of there.

01:24:17
So we need more of that. We need extra clear up on that.

01:24:21
And we'd like to see much more support because let's face it, I

01:24:25
would love to be in the press corps at Washington, DC.

01:24:28
I would love for George to be there, but that opportunity

01:24:31
would cost a prohibitive amount of money, so we've got to see

01:24:33
more of that come forward and that would be great.

01:24:36
I want to I want to change topics.

01:24:37
So I want to ask you, Enoch, you know, there's and I'm sure you

01:24:41
see it on next where people putting up BS stuff, always

01:24:45
attacking a certain name. I don't want to put I don't even

01:24:48
want to bring their names up. But you, you think about all the

01:24:53
viewers they have that actually listen to their lies and stuff

01:24:55
and like, you look at it like how much more work that we have

01:24:59
to all, like I say, we, I'm talking about you, me, Jody,

01:25:01
everybody have to get them out of that frame of mind and, and

01:25:05
away from the BS and the lies that these people manipulate

01:25:08
with. It's crazy.

01:25:09
Yeah. And you see, like I love you

01:25:11
ever see guitar ain't on on on X?

01:25:14
He's funny, man. He he go, whoever he or she.

01:25:16
I don't even know that person goes on attack.

01:25:20
It's wild. I used to be more upset about it

01:25:24
than what I am currently. And to be specific, there's,

01:25:28
there's people that want you to think everything's a movie, like

01:25:33
nothing's real. And it's to me like as someone

01:25:37
who look like is in news and likes to share what's going on

01:25:42
to have people not believe anything you're saying because

01:25:46
they believe it's a movie. I believe it's A, to me, I, I, I

01:25:49
think it's, it's almost like a psyop to get people to sit on

01:25:51
their hands. That's.

01:25:55
Exactly what it is. When Trump was shot, the amount

01:25:59
of righteous anger I had, in fact, if I didn't have the

01:26:04
motivation before that, I absolutely had it after that.

01:26:08
And like, if I would have sat back and been like, oh, I'm just

01:26:10
watching a movie and this is scripted, like I wouldn't have

01:26:13
had the motivation to keep doing what I'm doing at all.

01:26:17
So like, I'm to the point where I used to be more upset about it

01:26:22
than I am now. I'm starting to just view it as

01:26:25
I think some people are just entertainment.

01:26:28
And I think it's unfortunate, but at the same time, like

01:26:32
that's like, I might not be someone who needs hope because I

01:26:36
see things that are going on every day.

01:26:39
I see so much more positive news.

01:26:42
That is like, again, I, I'm someone that grew up never

01:26:45
thinking marijuana was going to be legalized and knowing that

01:26:49
that was the one thing I'd ever get in trouble for, right.

01:26:52
And here I am now nine years in the medicinal marijuana industry

01:26:55
up here in Michigan. And I actually can help people.

01:26:58
And I never thought I would see a day in my life where that was

01:27:00
actually going to be possible. I'm seeing it now happened with

01:27:05
with, you know, like our government and being able to be

01:27:09
like, all right, there's actually now people in politics

01:27:12
I can get behind and support, which I thought there was never

01:27:15
going to be a day in my life where this would be happening.

01:27:18
So to be where we're at today and like to see us going toe to

01:27:22
toe with the deep state when they had so much control of what

01:27:26
was going on before. It's just I do get a little

01:27:29
irritated with everything's a movie now.

01:27:31
Am I saying that some things aren't scripted?

01:27:33
Some things aren't kayfabe? No, because I believe in

01:27:36
politics. A lot of that can actually be

01:27:39
scripted. And like, it's not for us to

01:27:41
know, but when we're watching actual news, to say that those

01:27:46
aren't real, I think that is detrimental to our community.

01:27:48
And I think that does get people to sit on their hands.

01:27:50
What about like, oh, the military's in control and all

01:27:53
that stuff? You know, listen, it's always

01:27:55
been, I've, it's always been up to us.

01:27:57
We the people. If you wanted to get something

01:27:58
done, nobody's going to do it for us, especially the military,

01:28:01
I mean. I'm going to be in that fucking

01:28:03
Durham boat, rowing alongside my general.

01:28:08
I'm not going to be sitting there getting pulled behind in a

01:28:10
dinghy, Let's just put it that way.

01:28:14
I am, I am absolutely going to be involved.

01:28:17
And I brought, I mentioned it earlier in the show about the

01:28:20
Green Dragon Tavern and the American Revolution.

01:28:22
I believe we're going through the second American Revolution

01:28:25
and we need patriots to be involved to step up into

01:28:28
leadership roles because that's the change that we're going to

01:28:31
need. I was talking about how I don't

01:28:35
need hope because I see things happening, but I do understand

01:28:39
there's a lot of people in our community that actually do need

01:28:42
that hope. So I've kind of wound back my

01:28:45
rhetoric against it over the last year myself.

01:28:49
So here's a question for you. What do you want to see Trump

01:28:55
like do out of the gate or have Congress pass like the first

01:29:00
three things? What do you think is most

01:29:01
important or vital? I think I might and I'm getting

01:29:07
interested to see about the deportation agenda.

01:29:10
Like he's definitely making it very important to saying that

01:29:14
that's what he's going to start doing on day one.

01:29:17
I think that's going to flush a lot of the evil out in our

01:29:21
country. I think there's going to be

01:29:22
confrontations and we're we're seeing it whether it was the

01:29:26
mayor of Denver or, you know, these other areas.

01:29:31
So I'm kind of interested in to see what happenings happens

01:29:34
there right off the bat. It's unfortunate.

01:29:38
Lance brought up something earlier in the show about how it

01:29:42
seemed like the money was dried up for some some people after

01:29:45
Trump won. And there wasn't this pushback.

01:29:48
There wasn't this pushback like everyone expected.

01:29:51
Like we didn't see the Antifa riots.

01:29:52
We didn't see like a lot of things.

01:29:54
And and that can go along with that argument as well, Lance,

01:29:58
Like where was the, you know, like they don't do anything

01:30:01
unless it's funded. So where is this money going?

01:30:04
Where is this push back going to come?

01:30:05
Everyone's expecting to see a push back at some point.

01:30:09
Well, I think that they, I think that first of all, they really

01:30:11
didn't expect the landslide. They still thought they had the

01:30:15
upper hand because they, they, they were able to cheat and win

01:30:18
so easily, right? The previous election was so, so

01:30:22
well orchestrated. They thought that they were

01:30:24
going to overwhelm the system. I think that they did not really

01:30:27
expect the turn out for Donald Trump.

01:30:30
It was such a landslide because when you look at the the voting

01:30:32
map, even with everything that I believe they still did, there

01:30:36
was also an operation that I think that got shut down.

01:30:40
We heard a story about semis that were transporting ballots

01:30:44
all across the country and that got outed by Van Miller and

01:30:50
others. And I think that was a part of

01:30:52
their big plan that they were going to have these late night

01:30:54
ballot drops and they were just going to move them around the

01:30:56
country where they needed to. But when they started to out

01:30:59
that story, when it started to get talked about, I think even

01:31:01
General Flynn talked about it and others, I think they had to

01:31:04
pull back. They said, oh, they know we

01:31:05
can't use that. And I do believe that was part

01:31:08
of the big strategy. But when it comes to the money,

01:31:10
I don't think they thought they needed as much.

01:31:12
Let's face it, Kamala, Kamala Harris spent, you know, over a

01:31:14
billion dollars. She's 20 or 40 million in debt,

01:31:17
depending on who you ask that question.

01:31:20
Still in election debt. She paid, you know, as an

01:31:23
example, Oprah Winfrey, $10 million for that community event

01:31:26
where Oprah said I just had to get Harris.

01:31:28
I just had to do this for her. No, she did it because but you

01:31:31
know what is that? What is Oprah's group called?

01:31:34
I think it's Harpo productions. She got $10 million Beyoncé $10

01:31:38
million Megan 3 Stallions, I think was 4 1/2 or $5

01:31:42
for that, that booty shaking thing that I don't think the

01:31:44
audience appreciated. But they she paid her for it

01:31:47
because they because they were having high success on TikTok,

01:31:50
right? They were paying those

01:31:51
influencers over there ten $15 a post depending on the

01:31:54
number of followers or they had or views, sometimes 25 a

01:31:58
post. They were having high success.

01:31:59
They were paying that big group and you saw the meetings where

01:32:02
they gave them a social media influence room.

01:32:04
That money was all part of that campaign money.

01:32:07
So you saw the White House, the social media room, it didn't

01:32:10
have conservatives. It was all left wing, the Harry

01:32:13
Sissons, the Chris Mallory. And foolishly, they allowed

01:32:16
those people to post photos. Now a lot of people still listen

01:32:20
to them and watch them talk, thinking, oh, these guys,

01:32:22
they're trying to save the country.

01:32:23
No, they're not. They all got paid the minute

01:32:24
they stopped getting paid, I believe #1 Harris Sidolver spent

01:32:28
#2 all the, all the groups, the agency, there's a big one in

01:32:32
Chicago. There's agencies and foundations

01:32:34
and NGOs and super PACs. They also had overspent.

01:32:38
I, I think what happened is their, their, their, their,

01:32:40
their, you know, their pantries were low on, on the financing.

01:32:44
So when Donald Trump won, they weren't prepared to go into

01:32:47
OverDrive to try to, you know, get the same Antifa kind of

01:32:51
rioting or otherwise around the country.

01:32:53
So it was almost like a little bit of shock.

01:32:56
They had run out of money and they had to wait till they could

01:32:58
get some more of that money moved around into the right

01:33:00
places. So I, you know, I think we're

01:33:03
still seeing that because it's even been kind of slow.

01:33:05
I expected X to go into total meltdown and most of the

01:33:09
meltdown how happened on TikTok from, you know, a lot of the

01:33:13
Karen style accounts were just Oh my God, the world's.

01:33:17
Speaking, OK, Speaking of TikTok, you know, Lance, sorry

01:33:20
to I'm going to interrupt. No, but you're right on.

01:33:23
Here, Trump said. Oh, TikTok, you know, it's, it's

01:33:26
too much TCP influence. It shouldn't be around.

01:33:29
Meanwhile, then he joined and used it to his advantage and now

01:33:34
he's he's floating like he doesn't know what to do with

01:33:37
TikTok. Get rid of that shit.

01:33:40
That's it. You said you're going to do it

01:33:42
back then. No, get rid of it.

01:33:44
If it's unhealthy and even people in Congress are not

01:33:47
allowed to have it on their phones.

01:33:48
What does that tell you? What what's the timeline with

01:33:52
that? Cuz you're.

01:33:53
Right coming up, January 20, the day after his inauguration is

01:33:58
the day the ban goes in effect, I believe.

01:34:00
But. So he did.

01:34:01
He did the big push back when he was in office about banning

01:34:06
TikTok. I know.

01:34:08
And he gave them the ultimatum. Either get an American based

01:34:12
company to run your operations here and sell.

01:34:16
It to for an American base, yeah.

01:34:18
Yeah, so I that that part did happen and that's what prevented

01:34:21
it from being shut. No, it didn't happen.

01:34:22
It didn't happen. No, the same people stole on it.

01:34:26
So, and you're right about the tick tock not being allowed by

01:34:30
our politicians like they're not allowed to use that.

01:34:33
They're ready to freaking shit. But they were.

01:34:35
But they were playing plenty of people over there, which I think

01:34:38
that was a violation because I. Don't.

01:34:39
Well I I made a TikTok account and the very first post I made

01:34:43
over there went against their community guidelines and they

01:34:46
took it down. Yeah, I mean they're.

01:34:48
They're really like at this point, like unless you're like

01:34:51
posting pictures of the pretty snow or dancing, like they don't

01:34:55
want you talking about actual topics and they will, they will

01:35:00
absolutely still shut you down over there for that.

01:35:02
The thing is with TikTok, so, you know, first of all, they're

01:35:05
not about free speech and but they're fighting Supreme Court

01:35:08
saying, oh, free speech. And this is where TikTok is.

01:35:13
They're not wanting to ban you because of free speech.

01:35:14
I want to ban you because you're you're stealing everybody's

01:35:17
information. It's and it's crazy.

01:35:20
But so besides, listen, we know Tom and we know Tom Holman's

01:35:25
going to put the hammer down. He's got, he's got the

01:35:27
immigration thing. We know he's going to handle

01:35:29
that. Tom Holman's great I.

01:35:30
Love him. My my belief is because we have

01:35:32
less than two years for Trump to get shit done because you don't

01:35:34
know what's going to happen in the next election.

01:35:35
One of the most important things is he needs to get election

01:35:40
integrity passed. Get rid of all the machines one

01:35:44
day voting. He even talked about this, Lance

01:35:46
said. He might declare and a national

01:35:49
holiday so people could everybody can go and vote.

01:35:51
That's what he that's what he needs to do.

01:35:53
I mean, that would be great. We need voter ID too.

01:35:55
We need uncorruptible voter ID. Like, hopefully, like you got

01:35:58
cash Patel, he'll do what he needs to do to clean up the FBI.

01:36:01
Every person hopefully will do what they need to do to clean up

01:36:04
and, you know, put the hammer down.

01:36:05
That was one of the topics I got cued for was talking about the

01:36:08
need for voter ID law paper ballots of.

01:36:13
Course anything that makes sense when it comes to election

01:36:15
integrity. If they don't get that done,

01:36:18
we're screwed, I think. You asked the question about

01:36:22
the, you know, what the things I wanted to see Trump do when he

01:36:25
came into office. And I saw in chat actually one

01:36:29
of the most important things that I kind of just glanced over

01:36:31
in my head. But the release of our J Sixers,

01:36:35
like, I think that might be more important what people realize,

01:36:39
especially like, I'm kind of connected to that.

01:36:42
I organized caravans. I go to DC on January 6th and

01:36:47
there's a lot of people I helped get to January to DC on January

01:36:50
6th that ended up being involved and just being in the wrong area

01:36:55
at the wrong time. And now they're freaking life

01:36:58
are ruined and it's horrible. Like, I don't know if you know

01:37:02
who Pyanon is. Joseph Thomas, he started

01:37:05
something called Sing for Freedom and Sing for Freedom is

01:37:10
each night at 9:00 Eastern, the J Sixers sing the national

01:37:15
anthem from their jail cells. And so he started the hashtag

01:37:18
Singing for Freedom where he would sing each night at 9:00 in

01:37:21
solidarity with them. And it's actually blown up a

01:37:25
bit. There's aren't they doing a

01:37:26
podcast from? The jail, they're doing a

01:37:28
podcast or something from jail. He's not, no.

01:37:32
But they call in. Yeah, they call Mel Hawley.

01:37:37
I thought I'd seen this picture somewhere where his dream of him

01:37:39
sitting at a desk or doing a podcast from the jail, I'm like,

01:37:41
how is that even possible? I'm like, good for them, but I

01:37:45
don't. Know, I mean, like there are

01:37:46
some, there are some posh prisons out there, some probably

01:37:49
some medical prisons, etcetera where you're allowed to have

01:37:52
stuff like that. Absolutely.

01:37:54
No. I mean.

01:37:55
No, they're they're not they're not even in prison.

01:37:58
They're in county still waiting to get probably fighting, but I

01:38:00
don't I'm. He got sentenced, he ended up

01:38:04
being charged with 13 different counts, then sent to a Memphis,

01:38:07
Memphis prison. So that that's just an anecdotal

01:38:11
story talking about one person. So I'm definitely not covering

01:38:14
everyone when I say that. But he's he's someone that's

01:38:18
like, we've seen the national anthem break out at Trump

01:38:20
rallies and where Trump actually stops and listens.

01:38:24
And that's because people were doing this thing for freedom.

01:38:27
My friend Travis Evans started that at the Trump rally.

01:38:31
We actually did that with General Flynn at the bowling

01:38:34
alley. That was a thing for.

01:38:39
But the weaponization of these agencies, I hope that's the top

01:38:43
initiative. I'm happy.

01:38:44
You know, we're friends with Cash Patel.

01:38:45
We love what he stands for. I hope that's the plan.

01:38:47
I hope Pam Bondi is going to start going after them because

01:38:50
without accountability and consequences, none of this is

01:38:53
going to get fixed. Because if you think you can

01:38:55
live above the law, if you think that the supremacy clause

01:38:58
doesn't apply to you, and then you can operate

01:38:59
unconstitutionally and non constitutionally, then they're

01:39:03
going to continue to do it until they face the same consequences.

01:39:06
And let's face it, the J6 committee, the weaponization of

01:39:09
that by Liz Cheney and many others, they should pay those

01:39:12
consequences. The Dirty 51 + 8, the Russian

01:39:15
collusion hoax that went after General Flynn, Donald Trump and

01:39:18
Roger Stone as examples. What they did to George

01:39:21
Papadopoulos, the people responsible for that, those

01:39:23
people have to face consequences for their actions.

01:39:26
It's, they violated the US statutes, it's treason and

01:39:29
seditious conspiracy nursing against United States citizens.

01:39:32
And they have to face the consequences of that because if

01:39:34
they don't, if we don't see accountability this time, then

01:39:39
this won't stop. It'll continue on and on and on.

01:39:42
Because if people don't feel like they're going to get

01:39:44
caught, it's just like that person that steals from you,

01:39:47
they steal day one, they get away with the dollar.

01:39:49
Next day it's $2.00. Next day it's $3.

01:39:50
By the end of the month, you're paying their rent.

01:39:53
My point is they have to face consequences because the

01:39:57
statutes are very clear, equal application of the law, equal

01:40:01
protection of the law, the rule law.

01:40:03
And right now I believe there's a general trend across social

01:40:05
media on all platforms, people don't believe in the rule of

01:40:08
law. They're saying, well, if you

01:40:10
know Nancy Pelosi can insider trade, why can't I insider

01:40:12
trade? And if, if, if Hillary Clinton

01:40:16
can use bleach bit and a hammer to destroy evidence and not get

01:40:20
charged for it, why can't I do the same thing?

01:40:22
I mean, there's talk right now that that some of the DOJ

01:40:26
departments are scrambling and they're getting rid of evidence

01:40:29
that we probably need. They're actually destroying

01:40:31
evidence because they're concerned about what might be in

01:40:34
their files. A lot of it, like, for example,

01:40:36
they're deleting evidence of, you know, of course, Jack

01:40:39
Smith's case. We heard the team of prosecutors

01:40:41
are combing through their communications and text messages

01:40:43
right now because they're wondering what consequence

01:40:45
you're going to face. But let's face it, you can't

01:40:48
just have the people that went after Donald Trump or Roger

01:40:51
Stone or Mike Flynn face consequences.

01:40:54
It has to be equal application across the entire playing field.

01:40:58
So all the judges and all the prosecutors that use the Fed's

01:41:02
serection to incarcerate honest Americans that did not commit a

01:41:07
crime, in my opinion, they were propelled.

01:41:10
If there was any kind of violence that got caused, it was

01:41:12
because they used lethal, lethal musicians.

01:41:15
There was only a handful of people that I think probably

01:41:17
committed actual crimes there. But when they started firing the

01:41:20
pepper spray and they started using the bean bags and they did

01:41:22
all that, they agitated the crowd intentionally.

01:41:25
They also infiltrated the crowd. There were hundreds and hundreds

01:41:28
of federal agents propelling the crowd and motivating them.

01:41:31
What we should go in the capital?

01:41:32
I'm going to be honest, if George and I had been there, I

01:41:35
might have been one of the guys who put my feet up on Nancy

01:41:37
Pelosi's desk. I would've looked.

01:41:39
At Tom Fitton, Judicial Watch was just releasing stuff

01:41:43
yesterday. Still today more stuff is coming

01:41:46
out about the how the feds were involved with January 6th.

01:41:50
So when those people face some jail time and they face some

01:41:54
prosecution and they face those 3:00 AM raids where CNN is going

01:41:58
to be there to videotape like they did to Rodger Stone, then

01:42:01
I'll feel like we're getting somewhere.

01:42:02
You know, it's not only about thanking the honest men, you

01:42:05
know, men and women of the country that did great work for

01:42:07
Donald Trump over this 10 years and did great work for the

01:42:10
country and the community. It's also about the people that

01:42:13
were unfairly attacked, that were suspended and otherwise.

01:42:17
Let's face it, those Twitter Files, and we've only seen just

01:42:19
a semblance of them, proves that our government agencies on

01:42:22
Facebook and otherwise were suppressing Americans.

01:42:26
They were attacking them directly.

01:42:28
They were. That's a, that's called a

01:42:30
misuse. It's malfeasance, nonfeasance

01:42:32
and misfeasance by a government official.

01:42:34
There are literally multiple statues that they violated, you

01:42:38
know, 18241, eighteen, 242, the list just goes on and on and on.

01:42:43
I want to see those people get prosecuted.

01:42:45
I want to see them get incarcerated.

01:42:48
And if the consequence is treason and seditious

01:42:50
conspiracy, then so be it. They're on their way to get more

01:42:52
and they'll face the consequences of what the Max,

01:42:55
you know, sentences for that. That has to happen.

01:42:59
And if I'm trying to expose her to do that, then I'm

01:43:02
disappointed in what we stood behind this entire 10 years.

01:43:05
I I hope to God they exposed the J6 committee and Nancy Pelosi

01:43:09
and the feds how to have it. How they were the ones that

01:43:13
started that whole freaking thing and allowed it to happen.

01:43:17
Can I share something with you guys?

01:43:18
I absolutely don't. Share.

01:43:20
I've never shared this on a podcast, never said this

01:43:24
publicly. The January 6th committee was

01:43:27
asking questions about me. The January 6th committee, when

01:43:31
they deposed Jim Watkins. They brought Jim Watkins in for

01:43:36
deposition. You can find this deposition as

01:43:38
public record. They were asking him about the

01:43:42
caravans I organized to go to DC on January 6th.

01:43:46
They were trying to get him to tell, to throw me under the bus

01:43:52
when when I found out that the January 6th committee was

01:43:54
actually asking about me. That's why I knew I had skin in

01:43:59
this game. Like so many people there are

01:44:03
there. I don't know what.

01:44:06
What do you call that? Activists, you know.

01:44:10
Activists. Something like that.

01:44:14
When I found out that I was actually investigated by the

01:44:17
January 6th committee, it it absolutely blew my mind.

01:44:20
It absolutely blew my mind. I don't, I was scared.

01:44:23
I was absolutely scared to talk about it publicly over the last

01:44:25
four years and to see and like to just just to tell you guys

01:44:32
how important it is for me to see what happens after the

01:44:36
inauguration with the J Sixers is it's that much more important

01:44:40
to me because they tried to make me feel like I was responsible

01:44:43
for part of that. And it was absolutely crazy to

01:44:46
know that my government would invest, want to investigate me

01:44:50
for using my freedom of speech and my right to assemble.

01:44:54
I'm going to no doubt I'm going to add something to how corrupt

01:44:56
the government is because nobody really knows this.

01:44:59
Lance, I don't even think I told you.

01:45:00
I just found out about this not too long ago.

01:45:02
I was waiting to put it out. It's the first time anybody's

01:45:05
going to hear about this. Do you know in Florida when you

01:45:08
know the three when they had the the funeral service for the

01:45:12
three motorcycle cops that got hit by a car, they died.

01:45:16
Yes. I think, you know, there were,

01:45:17
he's on Trump's motorcade during that day at the funeral service,

01:45:24
a female FBI agent in the bathroom, her gun accident went

01:45:28
off, ricocheted and and skinned somebody in the leg.

01:45:32
Never reported. And this is 100% fact.

01:45:37
It was never reported. There's no reports on it.

01:45:40
But when anytime any anybody, law enforcement, anybody's guns

01:45:44
gets discharged, there's supposed to be a report.

01:45:49
So anybody wants to dig ahead, that's something that nobody

01:45:53
knows about that I just said. Well, and how much of that stuff

01:45:56
beyond that, let's think about the the criminality of what the

01:46:00
agencies have done and they've been propelled by a political

01:46:03
agenda, you know. So at the end of the day, I'm,

01:46:06
I'm very unequivocal about this. I want to see accountability and

01:46:10
I want to see consequences. I want to see, I want to see

01:46:11
government officials arrested. I want to see prosecutions and,

01:46:15
and if they're guilty, I want to see the Max sentences because

01:46:17
this is the same thing. Because we've got a weaponized

01:46:19
judicial system in a lot of cases.

01:46:21
I'm not saying there aren't any good judges, but I'm thinking a

01:46:23
lot of the judges have been compromised.

01:46:25
I think lifetime appointments, I think absolute immunity need to

01:46:28
be taken out. If it was my executive order of

01:46:30
day one, I would remove all lifetime appointments.

01:46:32
I would say that's no longer on the playing field.

01:46:34
You don't get a lifetime appointment #1 #2 absolute

01:46:37
immunity out the, the door, qualified immunity out the door.

01:46:40
And you don't have to ask permission to sue the federal

01:46:43
government. This whole thing where you have

01:46:44
to get approved for a tort claim when you've been injured, when

01:46:47
you've been damaged, that's out the window.

01:46:49
I would take that all off the playing field because they, they

01:46:51
basically created an environment where they can operate, you

01:46:55
know, unlawfully above the law. And the supremacy clause makes

01:46:59
it very clear that the supreme law land, the Constitution is

01:47:01
the highest law in the land. But we've got civil rights

01:47:04
violations. And here's what I don't like.

01:47:05
The DOJ departments for oversight aren't being

01:47:08
oversighted by somebody that's independent of the DOJ.

01:47:11
The OIG Oversight division for the DOJ, it's OIG, it's DOJ,

01:47:15
Office of Professional Responsibility, DOJ, Penn Public

01:47:18
Integrity Division, DOJ, Civil Rights Division, DOJ.

01:47:22
And when you go to the bar associations in the state, if

01:47:24
you want to file a claim, you have to have the whole thing

01:47:26
wrapped up because there is no budget for them to investigate.

01:47:30
All that has to go out the window.

01:47:31
Enough is enough. They they have to have

01:47:33
accountability. And I that includes judges,

01:47:35
prosecutors and FBI agents. DEAATF, I'm going to tell you

01:47:40
when when I have a dialogue with Pam Bondi and I will have a

01:47:43
dialogue with her. And whenever I've talked to Cash

01:47:45
Patel, I've told him, you know, you know explicitly and

01:47:48
implicitly that this is what has to happen.

01:47:51
I'll have that same dialogue with Pam Bondi when the time

01:47:53
comes because I can tell you this, enough is enough.

01:47:57
They are not better than us. They are not superior beings.

01:48:00
The 535 in Washington, DC, their criminal behavior has to be put

01:48:04
to an end. And if they don't like it, tough

01:48:06
shit. Quit, resign, remove yourself,

01:48:09
move to another country, maybe go find a place that doesn't

01:48:11
have any extradition. I don't care.

01:48:13
But I'm done with it. I'm done with them and I'm done

01:48:16
with, I don't care whether it's Republicans or Democrats or

01:48:18
nonpartisans, doesn't matter to me.

01:48:20
They are they're not better than me.

01:48:22
They're not better than Enoch and they're not better than

01:48:23
George Ballentine. And at the end of the day, I

01:48:25
want to see this happen. Heads not need to roll.

01:48:28
And it needs to happen in a decisive and really swift

01:48:31
manner. Once this administration gets

01:48:33
into place. And I will tell you this, that

01:48:35
it won't be enough for me if Donald Trump goes after the

01:48:37
people that went after him because I regular Americans have

01:48:40
paid the consequences for this behavior in DC long enough.

01:48:44
And I think it's enough is enough for for my my take,

01:48:47
George. A lot to go on, but I don't

01:48:53
know. We have to wrap it up.

01:48:56
I don't know, Lance, I'm lost right now.

01:48:57
So you know. On that note.

01:49:00
Let me just. So much going on.

01:49:01
Coming to the show tonight. Yeah, I was going to.

01:49:03
Thank you. No, no, Yeah.

01:49:05
I was going to say, man, thanks for joining us.

01:49:06
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01:49:10
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01:49:12
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01:49:17
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01:49:19
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01:49:21
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01:49:23
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01:49:41
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getting more people so we can expand our voice.

01:50:06
Growing our show is a top priority, not only because we

01:50:09
obviously want to continue to be a valuable resource, but of

01:50:13
course we put a lot of time into this and that makes a difference

01:50:15
when we get new followers and subscribers and we appreciate

01:50:18
our old ones. And always the mods we

01:50:20
appreciate. We love the work they do in our

01:50:21
chat. I don't know how we run the show

01:50:23
without them, to be honest with you, because they've done an

01:50:25
amazing job over the year. So listen, get over to the X

01:50:29
Enoch your handle on X1 more time.

01:50:31
At News Blast 17. So at News Blast 17, definitely

01:50:35
subscribe to him. If you're not subscribed to G

01:50:37
Ballantine, the Big Ming Show or Lance Miliacho, please do it.

01:50:40
Don't forget we have the ex community.

01:50:41
You'll find the interviews get released there before they get

01:50:44
released elsewhere. We just put up a thumbnail and

01:50:46
say, hey, this will be Monday. Now don't forget you're going to

01:50:49
want to be here on Monday. You know, we you've seen us get

01:50:53
Navy Seals and MARSOC Marines and other people on this show

01:50:57
that are experts in their own area.

01:50:59
We've got a great guy. He's he's super interesting and

01:51:02
you're going to see him on Monday.

01:51:03
So his name's and again, this guy's Delta Force CIA contractor

01:51:08
named Dale Comstock, super interesting cat.

01:51:11
You do not want to miss this interview that's going to be on

01:51:13
Monday. Now, if you haven't been

01:51:14
watching the Global Finance forum, it's a wrap up.

01:51:17
It's a clip notes for you of all the financial news that's on

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So it's going to be called the crypto power hour and you can

01:51:28
find us on locals. You can find us on, of course,

01:51:31
Rumble and on X. That's where we're doing the

01:51:33
work. If you if there's anybody you

01:51:34
want us to interview, let us know in the chat.

01:51:37
Direct messages on X. We we always read our direct

01:51:39
messages. So let us know who you'd like to

01:51:41
see for upcoming interviews. And if you have anybody that's

01:51:44
really interesting for an interview, tell them they should

01:51:46
come on the big, big show if you're connected to some of the

01:51:49
big influencer counts. And we love, we want to get

01:51:51
everybody on here, whether it's health related actors and

01:51:54
actresses, whether it's MMA, whether it's professional

01:51:57
boxers, whether it's special forces guys.

01:51:59
We love to put variety on because we want to help people

01:52:01
grow and educate them. And this is the easiest way to

01:52:04
do it. George, last words on the way

01:52:06
out of the door from you and Enoch.

01:52:09
I just want to say I love you brother Enoch or a brother from

01:52:13
another mother but the same father.

01:52:14
Anything you need just let me know.

01:52:16
People in the chat, the new people that just came.

01:52:18
We want to welcome you to the chat and the big, big show using

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now big big mafia. Love to see new people come in

01:52:24
and and talk in the chat. Have a blessed weekend.

01:52:30
See you all Monday. Right Enoch?

01:52:32
You got anything, Mr. Mac? And Pull?

01:52:35
Up guys, I love you guys, I love the live chat.

01:52:38
Thank you for welcoming to me to the Big Meg Mafia.

01:52:41
It means actually means a lot to me to be welcomed in.

01:52:44
If anyone has a chance to get out and meet patriots in real

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life, any type of patriot event, I just implore you to to do it.

01:52:51
Don't be afraid, step out that door, get out and do it.

01:52:54
You're going to meet some amazing friends and probably

01:52:57
make relationships for the rest of your life.

01:53:00
Definitely. Well said, God, country family.

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That's what it's all about here on THE Big Mix.

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01:55:32
The Wanted man is Joseph Kony, charged with abducting huge

01:55:36
numbers of children, forcing them to kill and mutilate

01:55:40
innocent victims. Somebody had to pay the price.

01:55:43
Sam did that. Sam Childers never stopped

01:55:46
because. The bad things never stop.

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There is only one Sam, children. There is no one else like him in

01:55:52
the world. And I said to him, I said, would

01:55:54
you go now to get Kony in the Congo?

01:55:58
He says, without a doubt, in a second.

01:55:59
Now it's the DRC. Tell us what's happening to

01:56:02
children in the DRC. Do you have ISIS there?

01:56:04
You have Islamic State and you have ADF?

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Hey, Sandy, Joseph Kony is still alive.

01:56:09
He's in the Congo. And now God has me in the Congo,

01:56:13
you know, So hopefully we'll meet up one day.

01:56:16
But maybe I can lead him to the Lord or send him there.

01:56:20
One or the other, huh?