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[00:00:43] Welcome back to The Big Mig Show. I'm your host Lance Miliaccio.
[00:00:47] Of course, with the ever diligent George Ballantine, my co-host at my side, Capow.
[00:00:53] That's all I'm going to say about this episode. You're going to be getting lots of truth tonight.
[00:00:56] And you know that's the plan. We are the tip of the spear.
[00:01:00] If Liberty means anything at all, it means right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
[00:01:04] That is our plan. Each and every episode, we're going to bring you the receipts, the truth, the evidence, the facts, and the right guests.
[00:01:11] And hopefully you're going to take that education and share it with other individuals, whether they're liberals or nonpartisans.
[00:01:17] And we're going to unify this country. You know, on The Big Mig, it's a uniparty in DC.
[00:01:21] We don't trust either side. And it's better to be heard by the truth than comforted with a lie.
[00:01:26] Lance, before we get further with this show, let's make an announcement.
[00:01:30] Our guest who was coming on, Thomas Nelson, his mother just passed away today.
[00:01:35] No, Martin Durkin. Oh, Martin Durkin. I'm sorry. Martin. Yes. Yeah.
[00:01:38] My bad. Martin Durkin's mother passed away today.
[00:01:41] So give you all appreciate prayers for him and his family.
[00:01:44] He did send a replacement.
[00:01:46] He's a great guy.
[00:01:48] He actually knows more than him, I think, but just keep your promise.
[00:01:51] I'm going to give you all the praise for him and his family.
[00:01:53] Exactly what Martin said. Tom Nelson is the expert on climate, the movie.
[00:01:58] At the end of the day, obviously we're blessed to have him here when emergencies happen for a family.
[00:02:03] You know The Big Mig, we're always going to tell you to focus on your family.
[00:02:06] For us, it's God, country, and family.
[00:02:08] And remember, if you're being attacked, it's because you're a threat.
[00:02:11] Hopefully on this show, we're making you more of a threat.
[00:02:13] The more knowledge you have, the better off your beat.
[00:02:16] Because don't forget, the road to tyranny is paved with the people telling you to stop questioning everything.
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[00:03:29] So we're going to talk about climate the movie.
[00:03:33] You know that you can call me a climate denier if you want.
[00:03:37] I'm just a climate facts guy.
[00:03:39] The science doesn't match with the pitch.
[00:03:42] As you as you know, we get it force fed to us constantly.
[00:03:46] And at the end of the day, it's lies, lies and lies.
[00:03:49] George, let's throw up the thumbnail really quickly.
[00:03:52] This is an actual cover from the movie.
[00:03:54] We adapted it.
[00:03:56] That's Martin on there had we had time.
[00:03:58] We would have added Tom to it instead.
[00:04:00] But at the end of the day, it is the promotion.
[00:04:02] And I loved I actually love the intro to this movie.
[00:04:05] But before we get started, George, I got to set the mood as usual.
[00:04:08] You know, more somber.
[00:04:10] All right, let's do it.
[00:04:12] All right, we're mood setting.
[00:04:14] Here we go.
[00:04:16] Hold on to your bridges, folks.
[00:04:18] One obsession.
[00:04:20] And that's it.
[00:04:22] So in ancient Rome, they gave the people bread and circuses with entertainment.
[00:04:30] But other dictatorships use other other strategies to control ideas,
[00:04:37] the knowledge.
[00:04:40] How do they do that?
[00:04:43] Lower education.
[00:04:45] They limit culture, censor information.
[00:04:50] They censor any means of individual expression.
[00:04:55] And it's important to remember this, that this is a pattern that repeats itself throughout history.
[00:05:06] George, you can follow it up with the second one because you know what?
[00:05:10] Boomers and Gen X are built different and you're going to understand why we're built different in just a moment.
[00:05:15] I know we're built different.
[00:05:17] You motherfuckers should have waited one more generation.
[00:05:20] You shouldn't have left any of us Gen Xers or Boomers alive because we don't take shit from nobody.
[00:05:26] Don't you get that?
[00:05:28] You should have waited until the millennials were our age.
[00:05:31] You would have been much more successful in getting them to go along with everything that you want to go along with.
[00:05:36] But you're not going to get that to happen with us Boomers and Gen Xers.
[00:05:40] No, we're a different breed.
[00:05:42] You see, we were taught US history.
[00:05:45] We were taught world history.
[00:05:47] We should be proud of our country and the sacrifices made by others to ensure our freedoms.
[00:05:51] That's what we were taught.
[00:05:53] There's too many of us alive.
[00:05:55] You can't enact any of the bullshit you want to enact as long as we're still alive.
[00:05:58] So if you want to fix that problem, step up motherfuckers.
[00:06:02] We're ready.
[00:06:04] We're Gen Xers.
[00:06:06] We ain't scared of shit.
[00:06:08] What's funny about that?
[00:06:10] The Gen Xers are the ones that had the millennials.
[00:06:12] So what are you teaching your kids people?
[00:06:14] I've got to say.
[00:06:15] This is Tom Nelson from Gen Xers.
[00:06:17] We're a team of a lot of people that have come here.
[00:06:19] Is it the education system?
[00:06:21] Is it the lies?
[00:06:23] We see lies coming out of DC.
[00:06:25] I don't want to leave Tom backstage.
[00:06:27] We're going to get into his bio stuff.
[00:06:29] I'm actually going to have him take us through
[00:06:31] because I also want to get him involved in these first two videos
[00:06:33] more elites, more lies,
[00:06:35] and we'll talk about that here in a minute.
[00:06:37] But bring Tom in.
[00:06:39] This is Tom Nelson.
[00:06:41] Welcome to the Big Mig Show.
[00:06:43] Mr. Tom Nelson.
[00:06:45] you are the end all expert.
[00:06:47] You know, this was an odd path you chose.
[00:06:50] I'm gonna let you tell the bio story,
[00:06:52] but it's weird how you say you actually started looking
[00:06:55] and I guess you were debunking the sighting
[00:06:57] of a particular bird and you realized the bogusness
[00:07:01] of lies and media in propelling a story probably
[00:07:04] for some kind of a financial gain
[00:07:06] for whoever started that story.
[00:07:08] Get me into that, that happened in 2005, correct?
[00:07:10] It did, in 2005 I would consider myself kind of a normie
[00:07:13] and just kind of believing what people, what experts said.
[00:07:16] I was a bird watcher and in 2005 there was this rediscovery
[00:07:20] announced of the Ivory Build Woodpecker.
[00:07:22] There was a paper that had 17 authors,
[00:07:26] peer reviewed paper in Science Magazine.
[00:07:28] This was true, they had rediscovered it,
[00:07:30] but I looked into it and right away within a couple of hours
[00:07:32] I found out that the whole thing was bogus,
[00:07:34] that all the evidence they had for this woodpecker
[00:07:36] was just ridiculous.
[00:07:37] They heard some sounds in the woods
[00:07:39] and they had a six pixel Ivory Build.
[00:07:41] They had two blacks, two whites and then two other blacks
[00:07:44] and that was their evidence for this.
[00:07:46] So then somebody told me,
[00:07:48] you should look into the global warming thing
[00:07:50] because if you look into that for yourself
[00:07:51] you're gonna see the same thing.
[00:07:53] The evidence does not back up at all what they're telling you
[00:07:55] and then within a day I'd looked into that
[00:07:58] and found out anybody can do this
[00:08:00] that they're lying to us about everything,
[00:08:02] alarming about the climate, it's all lies
[00:08:04] every bit of it.
[00:08:05] Now you have degrees in electrical
[00:08:07] and electronics engineering, is that correct?
[00:08:09] Yeah, I have a master's a long time ago
[00:08:11] in that electrical electronics engineering.
[00:08:14] And then getting into film as a producer
[00:08:16] and obviously investigative journalist
[00:08:18] and you really did it,
[00:08:20] what you figured out was the best way
[00:08:22] to get the narrative out
[00:08:23] because you guys have produced
[00:08:24] a couple of documentaries now.
[00:08:25] This isn't the only one, correct?
[00:08:27] This is the only one that I've produced.
[00:08:28] So Mark Durkin in 2007, he did that
[00:08:31] without any involvement for me
[00:08:32] and I was a huge fan of that movie
[00:08:34] because it stands up to this day, it's a great movie.
[00:08:36] And then he was on my podcast last year
[00:08:39] and he said, I'd really like to remake it
[00:08:41] knowing what I know now.
[00:08:42] And that kicked off this whole process
[00:08:43] of making this next one.
[00:08:45] So I was the producer of this movie that just came out.
[00:08:47] And what's the new one called now?
[00:08:49] It's called Climate The Movie.
[00:08:51] Gotcha, okay, so it is Climate The Movie.
[00:08:52] Okay, I wanted to make sure
[00:08:54] I didn't lose the timeline there obviously,
[00:08:55] that's the one we've got the details from.
[00:08:57] I wasn't sure that you didn't have
[00:08:59] a second series coming out, so I wanted to verify.
[00:09:02] So I just wanna start off by telling everybody,
[00:09:05] it's great the way the elites spin these stories.
[00:09:08] They tell us about climate change
[00:09:09] but yet they buy beachfront property.
[00:09:11] They tell us about climate change and carbon emissions
[00:09:14] and yet they fly around in Gulfstream private jets
[00:09:18] with only themself on board.
[00:09:20] They buy yachts, they buy lots of high-end motor cars
[00:09:24] and I don't mean electric cars,
[00:09:25] they buy lots of big engine cars
[00:09:28] that obviously have larger footprints.
[00:09:30] They run businesses that run large carbon footprints.
[00:09:33] We know that carbon is BS.
[00:09:35] I saw that in the movie,
[00:09:36] we're gonna talk about it here in a bit
[00:09:37] but let's talk about this new Zuckerberg yacht.
[00:09:39] I'm calling it the SS, the peasants can suck at yacht.
[00:09:43] It's a $300 million yacht
[00:09:44] with four gigantic diesel generators
[00:09:47] and everybody knows Zuckerberg is always trying
[00:09:49] to jam the climate narrative down our throats.
[00:09:52] George, you wanna throw up that video of Mark's new yacht?
[00:09:56] Oh, Mark's new yacht, you know what Lance?
[00:09:58] I don't want a yacht like this.
[00:10:00] I don't know why I can't have one.
[00:10:02] Yeah well you-
[00:10:14] Right now go ahead.
[00:10:15] You don't necessarily need audio
[00:10:16] but the end of the day,
[00:10:17] this is the guy that's telling you
[00:10:18] that you've gotta lower your carbon footprint,
[00:10:21] that you shouldn't be flying as much,
[00:10:23] that you need to buy an electric car,
[00:10:25] you shouldn't have a gas stove.
[00:10:27] This is the same guy, this is his yacht.
[00:10:29] No he's got a boat that follows that boat
[00:10:31] with other stuff in it.
[00:10:32] Or like cars and stuff too I read.
[00:10:35] Oh does he say he's got two yachts?
[00:10:36] Yeah.
[00:10:37] So, and then George you can throw up media too
[00:10:40] right in a row.
[00:10:40] This has got a little audio
[00:10:41] and then we'll fire up with Tom.
[00:10:44] We'll get right into the details.
[00:10:45] This is another short video clip of people
[00:10:49] explaining to you that you've been being lied to
[00:10:51] non-stop about climate.
[00:10:56] Through that boat, should sink it.
[00:10:59] There is no definitive scientific proof
[00:11:01] through real world observation
[00:11:04] that carbon dioxide is responsible
[00:11:06] for any of the slight warming of the global climate
[00:11:09] that has occurred during the last 300 years
[00:11:12] since the peak of the little ice age.
[00:11:15] If there were such a proof
[00:11:16] through testing and replication
[00:11:18] it would have been written down
[00:11:20] for all of us to see.
[00:11:22] The contention that human emissions
[00:11:24] are now the dominant influence on climate
[00:11:27] is simply a hypothesis
[00:11:29] rather than a universally accepted scientific theory.
[00:11:33] It is therefore correct indeed
[00:11:37] verging on the compulsory in the scientific tradition
[00:11:40] to be skeptical of those who express certainty
[00:11:44] that the science is settled and the debate is over.
[00:11:48] But there is certainty beyond a reasonable doubt
[00:11:51] that CO2 is the building block for all life on earth
[00:11:55] and that without its presence in the global atmosphere
[00:11:58] at sufficient concentration
[00:12:00] this would be a dead planet.
[00:12:02] Yet today our children and our publics
[00:12:05] are taught that CO2 is a toxic pollutant
[00:12:08] that will destroy life
[00:12:09] and bring civilization to its knees.
[00:12:13] And it's CO2 for life.
[00:12:14] You know that Tom the biggest thing I say
[00:12:16] about all this climate hoax and all this crap
[00:12:19] is insurance companies and the bankers will not finance
[00:12:23] or ensure any beachfront properties
[00:12:25] or properties close to water
[00:12:27] because inevitably what they're gonna go under water
[00:12:29] if we believe they're climate hoax.
[00:12:32] So why would they finance 30 year mortgages
[00:12:34] and damage and everything?
[00:12:36] It just wouldn't happen.
[00:12:38] Well, I think this film does an amazing job
[00:12:40] of exposing this phony climate alarm.
[00:12:43] It's an invented scare.
[00:12:45] There's no basis in science.
[00:12:47] But let me ask you this time.
[00:12:48] So you and Martin connect
[00:12:51] and then at that point where you already on top of the guy
[00:12:54] I have to be honest with you
[00:12:55] the climate thing I probably really didn't get on top of it
[00:12:58] until the last two years realizing what a hoax it was.
[00:13:01] Not because I was very unconcerned about it
[00:13:03] maybe I was selfishly unconcerned
[00:13:04] but I just didn't think to myself, well this is normal
[00:13:07] it's probably just more BS to sell electric cars
[00:13:10] or to sell wind generators
[00:13:11] or to create a new cottage industry
[00:13:14] because I could start to see some patterns in education
[00:13:17] that were increasing
[00:13:17] and all of a sudden there were experts in climate finance
[00:13:21] and all this rest of this stuff.
[00:13:22] So it seemed to me just to be another
[00:13:23] be another government operation.
[00:13:25] What got you, what was your first epiphany moment
[00:13:28] and you went son of a bitch
[00:13:30] I cannot believe these lies.
[00:13:31] When was that moment that made you head that way?
[00:13:34] Yeah, it was definitely one email that I got
[00:13:36] when I was involved in this
[00:13:37] I rebuilt woodpecker thing
[00:13:38] it's one guy sent me an email saying
[00:13:40] you can need to look at the evidence
[00:13:42] because it doesn't stack up.
[00:13:43] So at that point I started going down every rabbit hole
[00:13:45] and that was around 2006 or so.
[00:13:47] And since then most days I've spent hours
[00:13:51] going down these rabbit holes
[00:13:52] looking at cyclones and droughts and floods
[00:13:54] and fires and all sorts of things
[00:13:56] and finding out I've been down every rabbit hole
[00:13:59] and there's nothing alarming happening
[00:14:00] at all with the climate.
[00:14:02] It's not just that CO2 is a kind of a pollutant
[00:14:05] but a small one, it's not a pollutant at all.
[00:14:07] So fighting CO2 is like fighting water
[00:14:09] or it's like fighting oxygen.
[00:14:10] It's completely crazy, it's all crazy.
[00:14:14] And CO2 what people don't realize is that's plant food
[00:14:17] at the end of the day
[00:14:18] based on everything that I've researched at this point
[00:14:21] it shows that our CO2 numbers
[00:14:23] are actually frighteningly low historically, right?
[00:14:26] Yeah, yeah over the last 600 million years
[00:14:28] our best data is is that most of that time
[00:14:30] we've had way more CO2 in the atmosphere naturally
[00:14:33] than we do now.
[00:14:33] And Patrick Moore makes a good point
[00:14:35] that once we get down to maybe 180 parts per million CO2
[00:14:39] that's really bad for life on earth
[00:14:40] because it's not the climate control now
[00:14:42] but it really is necessary for plants to grow.
[00:14:44] And right now we're maybe at 420 or so
[00:14:47] or maybe a little more parts per million.
[00:14:49] So there's nothing at all.
[00:14:50] It's not a pollutant, it's just a little
[00:14:52] it's 0.04% of the atmosphere.
[00:14:55] It's not filling up with carbon, it's tiny right now.
[00:14:59] So I wanna play the trailer for the movie first
[00:15:02] I think this is the George's Goddess two minutes and 30
[00:15:05] I think it's actually the intro for the movie.
[00:15:06] George you wanna put throw that up
[00:15:07] we'll give everybody kind of a tone
[00:15:08] of what the movie covers.
[00:15:11] Here we go.
[00:15:12] Coming up.
[00:15:22] The beginning of a mass extinction
[00:15:25] and all you can talk about is money
[00:15:27] and fairytales of eternal economic growth.
[00:15:31] How dare you?
[00:15:38] This is the story of how an eccentric environmental scare
[00:15:42] grew into a powerful global industry.
[00:15:45] It's a wonderful business opportunity, okay?
[00:15:48] You want climate, we'll give you climate.
[00:15:51] There's a huge amount of money involved
[00:15:53] and this is a huge big money scam.
[00:15:56] They're not just now billions
[00:15:58] but there are trillions of dollars as big.
[00:16:02] It's a story of self interest
[00:16:04] and big government funding.
[00:16:06] People like me are careers depend on funding
[00:16:10] of climate research.
[00:16:12] This is what I've been doing just about my whole career.
[00:16:14] This is what the other climate researchers
[00:16:16] are doing with their whole career.
[00:16:18] They don't want this to end.
[00:16:20] If CO2 isn't having the huge negative impacts
[00:16:23] that we claimed it was having originally
[00:16:25] how are we going to stay in business?
[00:16:27] A lot of people's livelihoods depend on it.
[00:16:30] They're not gonna give that up.
[00:16:32] This is a story of the corruption of science.
[00:16:35] There's no such thing as a climate emergency
[00:16:37] happening on this planet now.
[00:16:39] It's there's no evidence of one.
[00:16:42] The climate alarm is nonsense, you know?
[00:16:44] It's a hoax.
[00:16:45] I've never liked hoax.
[00:16:46] I think scam is a better word
[00:16:48] but I'm willing to live with hoax.
[00:16:51] It's a story about the bullying and intimidation
[00:16:53] of anyone who dares to challenge the climate alarm.
[00:16:57] To speak up against or about climate change
[00:17:00] in any sort of skeptical way was essentially career suicide.
[00:17:04] Activists are even calling for any skepticism
[00:17:08] to be criminalized.
[00:17:11] It's the story of an assault on individual freedom.
[00:17:15] It's a wonderful way to increase government power.
[00:17:18] If there's an existential threat out there that's worldwide,
[00:17:22] well, you need a powerful worldwide government
[00:17:26] to cope with it.
[00:17:27] We see all these kind of authoritarian measures
[00:17:31] being adopted in the name of saving the planet.
[00:17:35] You've suddenly got the population under control
[00:17:37] all over the world.
[00:17:44] I wonder what acting school they shouldn't grad it to.
[00:17:47] Pretty good at it.
[00:17:48] I mean, I'll give her that.
[00:17:50] You have to give her that.
[00:17:50] I mean, only the best for Greta.
[00:17:52] She's got George Soros as a backer.
[00:17:55] So at the end of the day,
[00:17:56] she's got all the money she possibly needs
[00:17:58] to get all the acting lessons.
[00:17:59] He must have paid for her for a pair too
[00:18:00] because she grew a pair.
[00:18:02] You know, every time I, you know, kidding.
[00:18:04] Every time I see her, I can't help but laugh
[00:18:07] because how ridiculous though, how dare you?
[00:18:10] You know, it is interesting.
[00:18:13] You look at the movement right now,
[00:18:15] look at the Blade Runners in UK.
[00:18:17] They're cutting down all the cameras
[00:18:20] that obviously are linked to direct fines for emissions.
[00:18:23] And that's their plan, right?
[00:18:24] They have this agenda of more control.
[00:18:25] They want to put cutoff switches in cars.
[00:18:28] Supposedly they want 60% of all vehicles
[00:18:31] by a certain date.
[00:18:32] I think it's 2035 to be electric.
[00:18:35] They want semi tractor trailers to rely on electric
[00:18:38] but even though our power grid can't support it,
[00:18:41] you know, man, it's incredible.
[00:18:42] So you guys are putting together this intro
[00:18:45] and obviously very compelling.
[00:18:48] Give me some of the moments
[00:18:49] when you guys were researching this film,
[00:18:51] when specific and I'm sure they're under attack.
[00:18:54] I'm sure many of these scientists post of your interviews
[00:18:57] have been further attacked.
[00:18:59] They already admitted that they had been
[00:19:00] and some of them took early retirement.
[00:19:02] Give me some of the biggest moments you got directly.
[00:19:05] We have a couple of clips we downloaded
[00:19:06] but can you let the coaches through those?
[00:19:08] We looked at them and they look compelling
[00:19:10] but give me some of the biggest details, Tom.
[00:19:13] Yeah, I mean in the movie,
[00:19:14] we have Sally Balliunas talking about it.
[00:19:16] That's one of the most compelling ones I think
[00:19:18] where she was working with Willie soon
[00:19:20] just on solar influences on climate
[00:19:22] and she got so much blowback
[00:19:24] and her family got so much blowback
[00:19:25] that she had to retire early.
[00:19:27] And you can just tell that they took a big toll on her
[00:19:29] and all she was doing is saying stuff that was true
[00:19:33] about solar influences on the earth.
[00:19:36] And that's just one example of
[00:19:38] it's just kind of everywhere that you get.
[00:19:39] Well, give me some of her findings.
[00:19:41] What were the solar influences that she figured out?
[00:19:43] Tell me what they were specifically.
[00:19:45] Her and Willie, we're just talking about solar influences
[00:19:48] that the IPCC is telling us
[00:19:52] that the sun is just a little tiny influence
[00:19:54] and CO2 is maybe 10 to 40 times bigger or something.
[00:19:57] And she's saying, no, if you look at
[00:20:00] if you look at the way that the sun fluctuates
[00:20:02] that it ends up having big influences
[00:20:04] on both the temperature on earth
[00:20:06] and possibly even on the cloudiness.
[00:20:09] There's a lot of different influences
[00:20:10] of the sun on the earth.
[00:20:11] But she was getting canceled
[00:20:13] even for not talking about climate.
[00:20:15] She was just talking about how the sun fluctuates.
[00:20:18] And we're supposed to think that
[00:20:19] this sun is just that a constant.
[00:20:20] We can just kind of ignore it because
[00:20:22] since it's so constant that anything
[00:20:24] that we see happening on earth fluctuating around
[00:20:26] can't be caused by the sun
[00:20:27] because the sun is a constant.
[00:20:29] So the whole non-constant sun thing was a problem.
[00:20:32] Yeah, of course.
[00:20:33] Historically, we got some graphs we downloaded
[00:20:36] but George, why don't you play clip?
[00:20:38] Let's go with four and five right now
[00:20:40] and we'll let Tom take us in
[00:20:42] because we've got some of the graphs you had on there
[00:20:44] that are really compelling about the historical data.
[00:20:48] Pretty unbelievable.
[00:20:49] Here we go.
[00:20:50] Scientists who dared to point out in public
[00:20:51] that there was no climate chaos
[00:20:53] began to be sidelined and shunned.
[00:20:56] If a scientifically qualified person stands up
[00:20:59] and says, we don't see an upward trend
[00:21:02] in the data on Pacific typhoons.
[00:21:05] Well, suddenly they lose standing
[00:21:07] to address the topic of Pacific typhoons.
[00:21:09] Not because what they said is wrong,
[00:21:10] but because it's off message.
[00:21:13] They can marginalize any kind of criticism
[00:21:17] of the narrative by saying you're not qualified
[00:21:20] to talk about this because you don't support the narrative.
[00:21:24] That is then, and then having marginalized everyone
[00:21:27] who doesn't support the narrative,
[00:21:28] they can turn around and say, well,
[00:21:29] everybody who counts supports the narrative
[00:21:31] so we must be right.
[00:21:33] People like me, our careers depend on funding
[00:21:37] of climate research.
[00:21:38] This is what I've been doing just about my whole career.
[00:21:41] This is what the other climate researchers
[00:21:43] are doing with their whole career.
[00:21:45] They don't want this to end.
[00:21:46] If CO2 isn't having the huge negative impacts
[00:21:50] that we claimed it was having originally,
[00:21:52] how are we going to stay in business?
[00:21:54] A lot of people's livelihoods depend on it.
[00:21:57] They're not gonna give that up.
[00:22:01] Congress only funds problems.
[00:22:06] I thought that was a really compelling quote from the movie.
[00:22:10] These are individuals that I'm surprised they actually,
[00:22:12] I'm surprised and I give you guys credit
[00:22:13] for getting the interviews and for them coming forward
[00:22:16] with the truth because we know what happens, right?
[00:22:18] It's the discrediting, it's the attacks.
[00:22:20] It doesn't matter whether they weaponize the IRS
[00:22:23] against you and all of a sudden
[00:22:24] you're in the middle of a full-scale audit
[00:22:26] or they come in and they say, well,
[00:22:28] he's had an affair or he had a DUI in 1957,
[00:22:34] whatever it is, they have to use some kind of a weapon
[00:22:36] to make you look like you're not who.
[00:22:37] What kind of personal attacks have you and Martin had on you?
[00:22:39] Because I imagine when you came out with this documentary
[00:22:41] they probably went after you with guns blazing.
[00:22:44] Yeah, I mean, I've had personal attacks
[00:22:46] kind of the entire time I've been involved
[00:22:48] on social media from this.
[00:22:49] But surprisingly, the Washington Post,
[00:22:52] the mainstream media has not been attacking us.
[00:22:55] We were ready for that but they haven't.
[00:22:56] And what we think is they're trying to ignore us
[00:22:59] and they're hoping that we go away.
[00:23:01] But it really hasn't been that bad.
[00:23:03] One thing that Will Happer says in the movie
[00:23:05] is that scientists in general, if you're paying your mortgage
[00:23:08] you hardly can afford to speak out against this stuff
[00:23:11] because you're gonna get canceled,
[00:23:12] you're gonna lose your job,
[00:23:13] your papers aren't gonna get published.
[00:23:15] So a lot of the people that are speaking in the movie
[00:23:17] are past that they're retired.
[00:23:19] And there's this dynamic that when people retire
[00:23:22] they switch flips and then they could start talking
[00:23:24] openly about how the whole thing's a crock.
[00:23:26] I think there's enormous amounts of scientists
[00:23:28] right now that are 40 years old
[00:23:31] that are not speaking out because the cost is so great.
[00:23:34] There's all these incentives to go along with the narrative
[00:23:36] and stay quiet if people say crazy things.
[00:23:39] And there's big disincentives to speak out against this scam
[00:23:42] if you're employed somewhere in science.
[00:23:46] It's interesting, George, I don't know if you caught it
[00:23:48] when you were watching the movie
[00:23:49] but there was a part where they talk about
[00:23:51] that the temperatures have not even matched the levels
[00:23:54] of the 1940s levels.
[00:23:56] That we've never hit the same
[00:23:58] and that urbanization, obviously the creation of cities
[00:24:02] and central locations with lots of buildings
[00:24:04] that are reflective to the sun's temperature,
[00:24:07] that's what's actually creating it
[00:24:08] because the true temperature measurements
[00:24:11] and I'm talking about ocean versus land.
[00:24:13] The ocean numbers continue to go kind of like this
[00:24:16] temperature wise but yet the land numbers are going up
[00:24:19] but they're saying it's because of the urbanization.
[00:24:21] Can you explain that for the listeners?
[00:24:22] So they get what I mean by that
[00:24:24] because I don't think I did a very good job.
[00:24:26] The movie talks about how just like in an example
[00:24:30] of a big city like Paris,
[00:24:32] it might be five degrees centigrade warmer
[00:24:34] in the center of Paris than it is if you go out
[00:24:36] just to the outskirts of Paris
[00:24:37] because there's all of the buildings
[00:24:38] and there's all the heat of the engines
[00:24:41] and the asphalt and all that stuff.
[00:24:43] So that is a big factor.
[00:24:44] So Willie Soon talks about it and he says,
[00:24:46] well one way you can try to figure out
[00:24:48] how much that factor is
[00:24:49] is you can look at just rural stations
[00:24:51] that are away from the city.
[00:24:52] He said there the trend of warming since,
[00:24:55] I don't know what maybe 1900 is maybe about half
[00:24:58] that the earth still, it has warmed I believe since 1850
[00:25:01] and I think the earth has warm since 1975
[00:25:04] but it's maybe half as much as they tell us
[00:25:06] because this urbanization factor might be maybe 50%
[00:25:09] of the warming that we've seen.
[00:25:11] But then there's this whole idea is this warming bad
[00:25:14] and do we want the earth to be colder?
[00:25:15] There's a lot of other things to think about
[00:25:17] and I think the warming since 1850
[00:25:19] has clearly been a positive and good for life on earth.
[00:25:22] Yeah, you would think so.
[00:25:23] Especially from the ice age, right?
[00:25:25] I mean, why do you think they don't want us in Antarctica?
[00:25:27] Cause the truth lies when they drill over there
[00:25:30] to get all the real temperature and gauges of weather
[00:25:33] and all that stuff from there.
[00:25:35] So they didn't want us there.
[00:25:36] I mean.
[00:25:37] And it's hard for them to cover it up.
[00:25:38] Tree rings prove that the temperature
[00:25:40] obviously there's always been climate change
[00:25:42] on the planet tree rings prove that
[00:25:43] but never anything.
[00:25:44] And I guess the new technology is satellites
[00:25:47] but before we go into that
[00:25:48] I wanna play George media seven.
[00:25:50] This is really interesting about
[00:25:52] the temperature or six.
[00:25:54] Let's go with seven right now.
[00:25:56] Jump in the gun there buddy.
[00:25:57] Okay.
[00:25:59] Oh.
[00:26:00] And here it is.
[00:26:01] The Roman warm period, the cold dark age,
[00:26:04] the medieval warm period
[00:26:05] and then the very cold little ice age
[00:26:07] from which for the past 300 years or so
[00:26:10] we've been recovering.
[00:26:14] longest instrumental record of temperature
[00:26:16] in the world comes from central England.
[00:26:18] And this is what it shows.
[00:26:19] Since the worst of the little ice age from 1650
[00:26:22] the temperature has risen gently
[00:26:25] by little more than one degree Celsius.
[00:26:28] Gently, how more than one degree Celsius?
[00:26:31] That's it.
[00:26:32] One degree.
[00:26:33] We're burning up.
[00:26:35] You know what?
[00:26:35] Whatever happened to the ozone hoax
[00:26:37] where ozone layer was going away
[00:26:39] and more gonna burn?
[00:26:41] Whatever happened to that?
[00:26:42] Yeah. I think that was a natural too probably.
[00:26:45] I don't know for sure
[00:26:46] but I think it fluctuates
[00:26:47] and the whole idea that we control it
[00:26:48] that I don't think we do control the ozone hole.
[00:26:50] We don't control the earth temperature either.
[00:26:52] Well, it was interesting in the movie
[00:26:54] I heard, you know, I think it was North Dakota
[00:26:56] a temperature quoted that
[00:26:58] I don't think we've ever hit since
[00:26:59] and that was way, I guess it was what in the 30s or 40s?
[00:27:03] 121 degrees is that correct?
[00:27:05] Do I remember that right?
[00:27:06] I don't have that one here
[00:27:07] but it was similar in Minnesota.
[00:27:08] It was over 100 years ago
[00:27:10] and we had our record high here in Minnesota.
[00:27:12] Yeah.
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[00:32:33] Now I'm gonna throw you guys a curve ball.
[00:32:35] Maybe even Tom here.
[00:32:37] So if you look at the deepest part of the ocean, right?
[00:32:39] You know how many miles down deep it is?
[00:32:41] And they say the earth's core is hot as hell.
[00:32:45] Why aren't the oceans boiling down there?
[00:32:47] Think about that.
[00:32:48] Tom, what you think about that?
[00:32:50] That's interesting.
[00:32:51] I've had a few people on my podcast
[00:32:52] talking about that very thing.
[00:32:54] And yeah, there is a lot of geologic heat
[00:32:56] that's coming out of the oceans
[00:32:57] and you hear about stuff in Antarctica.
[00:33:00] It's melting in certain places.
[00:33:02] And now that is because there's a lot of geologic heat.
[00:33:05] There's a really hot magma under there,
[00:33:07] some places that are melting some of it.
[00:33:09] So yeah, that's a factor for sure.
[00:33:11] It's very complicated.
[00:33:12] When they say the icebergs are melting and stuff
[00:33:14] and it's raising the oceans,
[00:33:15] I tell people to take a glass, fill it with ice,
[00:33:17] fill it with water.
[00:33:19] When ice melts, does the water overflow?
[00:33:21] No, it does not.
[00:33:23] So that's another hoax.
[00:33:24] Unless I'm wrong about it, am I?
[00:33:26] I don't know.
[00:33:27] I don't think so.
[00:33:28] They talk about rising ocean levels.
[00:33:29] To me, it's just another climate hoax.
[00:33:33] We see it, the coastal's really haven't changed
[00:33:35] dramatically, there haven't been massive influxes
[00:33:37] because I don't think there's been enough precipitation
[00:33:40] that stayed on the planet
[00:33:41] because obviously we have evaporation.
[00:33:42] It goes back up, comes back down.
[00:33:44] Again, I'm not a climate expert,
[00:33:46] but what I did find interesting was media eight,
[00:33:50] New York Central Park, dear to my heart
[00:33:53] from where I grew up.
[00:33:54] George, the disparities,
[00:33:56] the minor disparity in temperatures actually surprised me.
[00:33:59] It really proves more of the same
[00:34:01] and showing that it's not true
[00:34:02] what they're saying about the climate increase.
[00:34:05] Tell me about this Tom, this actual graph.
[00:34:10] Can you see it?
[00:34:12] Yeah, I can see it.
[00:34:13] So what this is showing is that the average temperature
[00:34:16] over decades at Central Park really hasn't changed much,
[00:34:20] but some individual years are much warmer
[00:34:22] than some other individual years.
[00:34:23] So it's a whole idea that life on earth
[00:34:25] that can't adapt fast enough to one degree
[00:34:28] over a long period of time.
[00:34:30] Well, they have to adapt to way more temperature swings
[00:34:33] in much shorter periods of time naturally.
[00:34:35] And anything that can adapt to that is long extinct.
[00:34:38] So life is adaptable and the whole idea
[00:34:40] that a little warming since 1970
[00:34:43] even is gonna kill off anything, it's not.
[00:34:45] That's not the way it works.
[00:34:48] We're safe. Tom, there was a piece in the movie
[00:34:50] where they start talking about the effective ability
[00:34:53] of satellites to really track
[00:34:55] the temperature changes around the globe.
[00:34:57] And obviously they start debunking.
[00:35:00] Obviously I don't think the climate activists
[00:35:03] had thought about satellite technology
[00:35:05] and what the effect was gonna be on their narrative.
[00:35:09] Give me some input on this area
[00:35:10] because that was something I had never really heard before.
[00:35:13] Yeah, so there's just the land-based temperature stations.
[00:35:16] Anthony Watts has done a lot of work on those.
[00:35:18] They're kind of spread all around
[00:35:19] and there's a lot of problems
[00:35:21] with the land-based temperature stations
[00:35:23] because they might be near tarmac
[00:35:25] or they might be near a hot engines or whatever else.
[00:35:27] There's a lot of different things
[00:35:28] that can change the temperature there
[00:35:30] that aren't part of the climate.
[00:35:31] With the satellites, that's different
[00:35:33] than that you're measuring from a satellite
[00:35:35] and you get rid of all the urban heat island effect, et cetera.
[00:35:38] And those have been up there since about 1979 or so
[00:35:41] and they show way less warming
[00:35:43] than is shown by the land-based records.
[00:35:45] So there's this whole problem
[00:35:46] that if those continue to diverge what's going on here,
[00:35:48] it's kind of a separate check.
[00:35:50] It's a sanity check on what's going on
[00:35:52] and it makes things way less alarming
[00:35:54] if you look at the satellite data
[00:35:55] which I believe is the most reliable data that we have.
[00:35:59] I have a question Lance
[00:36:01] and I'm just gonna go single here per second.
[00:36:03] This is for you Tom.
[00:36:05] You know, these climate people
[00:36:07] they definitely take it a step too far
[00:36:09] but with this one they are overstepping the boundaries
[00:36:12] and this is where I draw the line.
[00:36:14] They're trying to take cows away
[00:36:15] because they say their flatulence
[00:36:18] is messing up the climate, et cetera.
[00:36:20] Cow flatulence, come on.
[00:36:22] No, that's completely ridiculous.
[00:36:24] I mean, they're just grasping at straws
[00:36:26] that there's so many different ways
[00:36:27] they're grasping at straws
[00:36:28] and the whole idea that we're gonna feed cows
[00:36:30] in the Midwest, we're gonna feed them seaweed
[00:36:32] and that's gonna provide some weather
[00:36:33] or climate benefit completely crazy.
[00:36:35] Keep saying as we could spend $50 trillion,
[00:36:37] get rid of all of our cars,
[00:36:39] I'll go live in caves, blah, blah, blah
[00:36:40] and still in 50 years we would see no measurable weather
[00:36:43] or climate benefit at all.
[00:36:45] It's all pain and it's no gain.
[00:36:47] So the cow fart thing is just another
[00:36:48] in a long list of BFs.
[00:36:50] And if you're gonna get rid of cow farts
[00:36:51] don't you need to get rid of Mexican food?
[00:36:55] A lot of people point out
[00:36:56] there were a lot of buffalo at one time
[00:36:58] and they didn't cause bad weather, a corn failure.
[00:37:00] Yeah, you know, and again, I always think
[00:37:03] that controlling our food supply,
[00:37:05] we've seen lots of food production facilities
[00:37:07] get burned to the ground this year.
[00:37:09] Obviously we've got people like Bill Gates
[00:37:11] that think we should eat manufactured food.
[00:37:14] We've got Klaus Schwab telling us
[00:37:16] that we should be eating bugs.
[00:37:18] I've even seen some promotions for cannibalism
[00:37:20] because they feel like that would be an effective way
[00:37:22] to use the protein that's already here.
[00:37:24] Cannibalism?
[00:37:25] Oh yeah, I just watched a clip on it.
[00:37:28] Okay, you know what?
[00:37:30] It's a crazy theory again.
[00:37:32] I'm gonna offer up some people, sorrows.
[00:37:35] Yeah, can you imagine how terrible
[00:37:37] Soros and taste George?
[00:37:39] I don't know, it's not an evening
[00:37:40] but I'm gonna give it to the other one.
[00:37:41] I'm not gonna eat it, I'm gonna offer it
[00:37:42] up to the other liberals.
[00:37:44] Zuck and Bird, Soros, there's a whole bunch of them.
[00:37:46] Nancy Pelosi, Obama.
[00:37:49] I'm gonna give Obama case somebody likes
[00:37:52] the dark meat and not the white meat, you know?
[00:37:54] You have to decide if you like pickle food
[00:37:55] if you're gonna eat Nancy Pelosi.
[00:37:57] Obviously, your alcohol intake.
[00:38:00] You know, we're laughing but at the end of the day
[00:38:01] it is that ridiculous.
[00:38:02] I mean, we've seen more and more of this.
[00:38:04] I mentioned a few minutes ago,
[00:38:05] I want you to go talk about this, Tom,
[00:38:07] because I think this is a really interesting answer.
[00:38:09] The Congress only funds problems.
[00:38:13] They fund problems and it seems to me
[00:38:16] it's all fear mongering.
[00:38:17] I don't know if I'm right,
[00:38:18] but at the end of the day most of the stuff
[00:38:19] that I know about that gets funded,
[00:38:21] we hear about all the pork barrel legislation
[00:38:23] and the rest of this garbage
[00:38:25] that's getting paid for all across the globe.
[00:38:27] Like there was a big funding project
[00:38:30] by the US government that came to with Transgenders in India
[00:38:34] offering transitional services that they were gonna pay for,
[00:38:37] which I don't understand why we're paying for transitions
[00:38:40] in India from the US government's budget.
[00:38:42] But again, it's more of the same, right?
[00:38:43] I always think it's division and chaos.
[00:38:46] Give me some more details
[00:38:47] on this Congress only funds problems.
[00:38:49] Yeah, I mean, that's kind of stressed in the movie
[00:38:51] that in the climate world
[00:38:53] that there has to be a crisis.
[00:38:55] That's why there's so much money flowing to this.
[00:38:57] And there's no money for people who are saying
[00:38:59] it's natural, don't worry about it.
[00:39:01] That's not exciting and nobody gets extra money
[00:39:04] or power for that.
[00:39:05] So if you're trying to study like butterflies,
[00:39:07] for example, you might not get funded,
[00:39:09] but if you say I wanna study
[00:39:11] the effect of climate change on butterflies,
[00:39:13] then you get funded.
[00:39:14] And that's just one tiny example,
[00:39:16] but there's an enormous amount of money
[00:39:17] that's being funded just on that type of basis
[00:39:20] if you have climate change in there,
[00:39:21] if you bend the knee to this whole climate change hoax
[00:39:23] then you get funded.
[00:39:25] And people have admitted that straight up.
[00:39:26] That's what they're doing.
[00:39:27] Patrick Brown just came out and said that a few months ago.
[00:39:31] You know, it's disgusting,
[00:39:32] highly educated individuals
[00:39:34] that should be doing good science
[00:39:36] that could be helping the world
[00:39:37] in lots of different ways
[00:39:38] are forced to create a narrative around research
[00:39:42] so that they can get the funding from the government.
[00:39:44] When the government should be paying for solutions,
[00:39:46] not problems.
[00:39:47] At the end of the day,
[00:39:48] we focused on real issues,
[00:39:50] but that's not what happens, right?
[00:39:51] That's the waste of our government.
[00:39:53] That's the waste of our resources.
[00:39:55] It's that constant, you know,
[00:39:57] obviously currency printer
[00:39:59] that they think there's no bottom to.
[00:40:01] I think it's a destruction from within.
[00:40:03] I think we've got people in DC
[00:40:04] and other organizations, NGOs,
[00:40:08] and you can call it Deep Kabbal if you want,
[00:40:10] but they're all working together
[00:40:11] for the destruction of the United States
[00:40:12] because it's the one thing standing in their way.
[00:40:15] A lot of people say if the United States falls,
[00:40:18] there won't be anywhere to turn.
[00:40:19] I think it's probably true
[00:40:20] and this just continues to be a pattern of waste.
[00:40:23] So along with that, now our education system,
[00:40:26] we see what's going on on the campuses
[00:40:28] across the United States right now, you know,
[00:40:30] Palestine protests where people are saying
[00:40:33] they're gonna go on hunger strikes
[00:40:34] and all sorts of other garbage
[00:40:36] telling other students that have as, you know,
[00:40:38] Jewish heritage, they can't come on
[00:40:40] and go to school, just a bunch of trash.
[00:40:42] It's more to me
[00:40:43] of the military industrial complex.
[00:40:45] They need a narrative, they propel it.
[00:40:47] It's what happens, right?
[00:40:48] And our school system is wrecked.
[00:40:50] Now all of a sudden there's this whole cottage industry
[00:40:52] of education and climate.
[00:40:55] I heard about a job title that I had never heard before.
[00:40:58] Master's degree in climate finance.
[00:41:01] What the hell is that?
[00:41:03] Yeah, Ross McKishford.
[00:41:04] He even George's puzzled.
[00:41:06] Oh wait, I got it.
[00:41:07] Master's degree in BS.
[00:41:09] Yeah, yeah.
[00:41:11] In climate BS I think is the title for it,
[00:41:13] but go ahead, Tom.
[00:41:14] I'm trying to put my head around this.
[00:41:16] What exactly is that for?
[00:41:17] Yeah, I mean, it's supposed to be some way
[00:41:19] to finance the prevention of bad weather.
[00:41:22] It's just completely freaking crazy.
[00:41:24] Ross McKittrick mentions it in the movie,
[00:41:26] but there's a lot of local city councils
[00:41:28] that have a climate officer
[00:41:30] like that city council is gonna do something
[00:41:32] to prevent bad weather in the future.
[00:41:34] Yeah, so it's just gone way off the rails.
[00:41:36] It's so ridiculous.
[00:41:37] But just a poll just came out today
[00:41:39] from Monmouth where they were serving
[00:41:42] all sorts of people in America
[00:41:43] about what do you think about the climate thing?
[00:41:44] It was very encouraging for real realists
[00:41:47] that young folks, their support for the scam
[00:41:50] has dropped a lot just since 2021.
[00:41:53] I think they might have dropped by 17%.
[00:41:55] And the big headline was only 34% of the Americans
[00:41:59] in this poll which was a left-leaning poll.
[00:42:01] Only 34% of them thought that human activity
[00:42:03] was the number one cause of climate change,
[00:42:06] which I think is amazing.
[00:42:07] After all this propaganda
[00:42:08] that's been shoved down our throat
[00:42:09] to all these decade, 66% are not even buying
[00:42:13] that part of it.
[00:42:14] There's a lot of encouraging things happening, I think.
[00:42:16] I think there's a lot of opportunity for jobs
[00:42:19] in the climate industry for furries.
[00:42:21] I think these furries should all get together.
[00:42:24] Furries, yeah, the furries.
[00:42:25] I think they should all get together
[00:42:27] and they should apply for climate jobs
[00:42:28] cause I think that's the most credible person
[00:42:30] to take over those positions
[00:42:32] since that seems to be shoved down our throat
[00:42:33] that we're supposed to identify people
[00:42:35] that identify as birds and foxes
[00:42:37] and cats in school now.
[00:42:39] We might as well prepare them for the climate hoax
[00:42:41] but really climate is politics, right?
[00:42:44] I mean, at the end of the day
[00:42:44] when you get down to the core of this
[00:42:46] it's all political control and maneuvering.
[00:42:49] Give me some details of some of the most scathing moments
[00:42:53] of nefarious dirt that these governments
[00:42:57] are participating in when it came to climate.
[00:42:58] Do you have some of those at your fingertips
[00:43:00] you could throw at us?
[00:43:01] I don't know if I have details
[00:43:02] but the whole IPCC thing
[00:43:04] that's supposed to be the Bible of climate change
[00:43:06] we're supposed to think that summarizes science.
[00:43:08] And what does that stand for?
[00:43:10] The intergovernmental panel on climate change
[00:43:13] but it's got the word government in there.
[00:43:15] So there's this whole idea, it's supposed to be science
[00:43:17] but that whole thing is politics.
[00:43:19] And there's all these stories of people
[00:43:21] are writing the scientific papers
[00:43:23] doing the best they can probably in the 90s
[00:43:25] to tell you what the truth is
[00:43:27] but then the governmental folks come in there
[00:43:29] and they make up stuff that was not
[00:43:31] in the underlying science.
[00:43:32] So there's been some people
[00:43:33] on my podcast talking about that
[00:43:35] where the science itself got distorted completely
[00:43:39] by the politics.
[00:43:40] And that's the whole thing is like that.
[00:43:42] It's kind of like the children's game, the telephone game
[00:43:45] where you might have some real science at the bottom
[00:43:47] but as it gets transferred towards the top
[00:43:50] time after time everything gets more and more alarmist
[00:43:52] and it's completely crazy by the time
[00:43:54] it gets to the mainstream media
[00:43:56] or Joe Biden or AOC, the stuff they're saying
[00:43:59] the O.C. about the world ending in 12 year file back
[00:44:02] all that stuff.
[00:44:03] The whole idea that CO2 is gonna end the world.
[00:44:06] Yeah, of course it's crazy.
[00:44:07] CO2 is not gonna do anything bad.
[00:44:09] It's been all good.
[00:44:11] If the earth warms more from here, that is good too.
[00:44:13] The little ice age was a terrible time to be alive.
[00:44:16] The crops weren't growing shorter growing seasons
[00:44:18] unless CO2-
[00:44:19] I don't think anything was alive really in the ice age.
[00:44:21] Was it?
[00:44:21] Maybe some bacteria or something.
[00:44:23] It wasn't that long ago geologically
[00:44:25] just a few hundred years ago.
[00:44:26] It was really cold and it's way better now.
[00:44:28] The warm periods have always been known as optimum
[00:44:30] because it's a good time when it's warm.
[00:44:32] All right, just another thing that's bothering me
[00:44:34] about this climate hoax.
[00:44:35] And I know Lance is with me on this one
[00:44:37] because us carnivores, we don't stamp it.
[00:44:39] We're all this lab grown meats and shit.
[00:44:42] I mean, what are they trying to,
[00:44:45] they won't, Lance, you said bugs earlier
[00:44:46] now they want us to eat lab grown meats?
[00:44:49] Have you ever seen that stuff?
[00:44:51] At the end of the day, when I look at what they've done
[00:44:54] in the food industry, when I look at GMO
[00:44:56] and now they want to talk about lab grown meats
[00:44:58] or they want to talk about insects
[00:45:00] that is not what our DNA, our caveman,
[00:45:02] the Anderthal DNA, assuming that that's actually
[00:45:05] the path that we came through.
[00:45:07] At the end of the day, none of us were designed
[00:45:10] to eat like that.
[00:45:11] People can argue what they want, they can talk about it.
[00:45:13] We were obviously carnivores and we're actually,
[00:45:15] well, obviously we were omnivores in a lot of ways
[00:45:17] but I don't believe that bugs were on the menu
[00:45:19] unless out of desperation.
[00:45:20] I was just gonna say, if you're in the jungle,
[00:45:22] do it.
[00:45:23] So you've got the elites and I can guarantee you
[00:45:24] that when Alexander Soros or George Soros sits down
[00:45:27] they're not sitting down to a nice meal worm steak.
[00:45:31] They're not traveling around in an electric vehicle
[00:45:34] with no security.
[00:45:35] They're flying around in their private jets.
[00:45:38] I mean, if you look at Davos, there was a big video shoot
[00:45:42] that occurred at Davos this year.
[00:45:43] You had literally hundreds of private planes
[00:45:46] running at Davos and if they were really that concerned
[00:45:49] about climate change many of them would have just traveled
[00:45:51] by bus or car and many others
[00:45:53] would have taken commercial aircraft
[00:45:55] because at least there would have been other people
[00:45:56] on the plane and you could talk about the carbon effects
[00:45:59] and that's the point, right?
[00:46:02] Don't worry about what I'm doing.
[00:46:03] Don't do as I do.
[00:46:04] Do as I tell you to do.
[00:46:06] It's rules for thee not for me
[00:46:07] and it's just more of the same.
[00:46:09] On this show we always talk about the lies.
[00:46:11] It doesn't matter whether it's the election lies
[00:46:13] or whether it's the foreign war lies
[00:46:16] or whether it's our political executive branch
[00:46:20] lying to the people.
[00:46:21] It goes on and on and on.
[00:46:23] George, we got a clip I wanna play and that's six.
[00:46:26] Yeah.
[00:46:27] Endings. Put that up and we'll have Tom comment
[00:46:29] on this. Climate of the movie. Here we go.
[00:46:31] Unitive and restrictive policies carried out
[00:46:34] both in the name of climate change and COVID
[00:46:37] have sparked protests in Britain, Canada
[00:46:40] and other Western countries.
[00:46:42] Anti-establishment politicians
[00:46:44] and movements are gaining support.
[00:46:49] What they underestimated was the fury
[00:46:52] that this would meet with ordinary people
[00:46:54] who just say you can't do this
[00:46:55] so you suddenly get this new movement.
[00:47:00] Many working people are not merely skeptical
[00:47:02] but positively angry about the climate alarm
[00:47:05] and all that flows from it.
[00:47:07] There is a suspicion or perhaps realization
[00:47:10] that climate change is an invented scare
[00:47:14] driven by self-interest and snobbery
[00:47:17] cynically promoted by a parasitic publicly funded
[00:47:20] establishment hungry for evermore money and power.
[00:47:25] An assault on the freedom and prosperity
[00:47:27] of the rest of us.
[00:47:33] I think that's the summary from the movie.
[00:47:36] But I think it's interesting, it is control.
[00:47:39] It is power, it is influence.
[00:47:41] They want to put these cutoff switches in cars.
[00:47:43] They want us to be in electric vehicles.
[00:47:45] And yet here in the United States
[00:47:46] and I won't speak about the rest of the world
[00:47:48] because I don't have enough knowledge
[00:47:49] but our electrical grid is coal fired for the most part.
[00:47:53] There's a very small part of it
[00:47:54] that's supplied by solar panels
[00:47:56] and wind obviously doesn't ever recover
[00:47:58] the cost of wind generators.
[00:47:59] And obviously if there should be a concern
[00:48:01] there should be all the animals
[00:48:05] that are getting killed by wind generators
[00:48:06] and obviously birds.
[00:48:08] But it's crazy, now we're killing whales off shore
[00:48:11] with water generators, especially in New Jersey, George.
[00:48:14] You've had lots of whales get beached.
[00:48:16] Seems like they're being impacted by those generators.
[00:48:19] So none of them really makes any sense.
[00:48:20] Yeah, by the windmills.
[00:48:21] And this lithium batteries,
[00:48:24] people don't realize the impact on the environment.
[00:48:27] But as you're going through this
[00:48:29] since you brought the movie out
[00:48:31] did you feel like the movie
[00:48:33] has already changed a lot of people's opinions?
[00:48:36] You know, I think it has.
[00:48:37] It really, I don't know if it's coincidental or not
[00:48:39] because I think there's been a big shift happening
[00:48:42] in recent months, but just in the last six weeks
[00:48:44] I've seen changes.
[00:48:47] There's a YouTuber called Sabina Hussinfelter
[00:48:54] and she's been doing some stuff
[00:48:55] about how we're all gonna die, blah, blah, blah.
[00:48:57] Within a week of the movie coming out
[00:48:58] she said, you know, maybe we're being too alarmist
[00:49:01] and I don't like it when scientists
[00:49:02] are pushing this thing too hard, blah, blah, blah.
[00:49:04] I've seen a lot of that kind of thing
[00:49:06] but I do think that COVID woke a lot of people up.
[00:49:09] I think that's a huge thing
[00:49:10] that so many people have come up to me lately
[00:49:13] and said, you know, I believed in kind of everything.
[00:49:16] I was kind of asleep.
[00:49:17] I believe the media until COVID
[00:49:19] then I found out they were lying to us
[00:49:21] and then I said, what else are they lying to us about?
[00:49:23] And then I looked at climate
[00:49:24] and I found out, yep, they're lying to us there too.
[00:49:26] I'm seeing so much of that
[00:49:28] and that makes me real happy that people are waking up.
[00:49:30] I think, by the way, I think this whole thing
[00:49:32] is a war on real people with real jobs
[00:49:35] that kind of a snippet we showed there.
[00:49:37] I think that's what this is.
[00:49:39] It's the Bill Gates types thinking that they're going
[00:49:41] to force this stuff down our throat
[00:49:43] but the polling is showing we're not gonna stand for it.
[00:49:45] We're never gonna eat the bugs to prevent bad weather.
[00:49:48] They're gonna try to make us
[00:49:49] but we're not gonna do it.
[00:49:50] So that makes me happy too.
[00:49:52] Yeah, there's no doubt.
[00:49:53] George, you and I talk about this constantly.
[00:49:55] I think the impact of alt media,
[00:49:59] obviously creative talent like yourself and Martin
[00:50:03] that are putting the information in a visual
[00:50:06] like your documentary, Climate the Movie.
[00:50:09] That's what makes the difference
[00:50:11] because at the end of the day we can sit here
[00:50:12] but when you start citing statistics
[00:50:15] and you support it with actual documentation
[00:50:18] and you support it with scientists
[00:50:20] that are very experienced,
[00:50:21] that's the same thing that happened to pandemic.
[00:50:23] We had the operations.
[00:50:24] We had the Dr. McCullis and we had the Judy Mike-Ovitz
[00:50:29] and the Stella Emanuels that fought.
[00:50:32] They got attacked for it
[00:50:33] and yet it's turned out it's true,
[00:50:34] suddenly died clearly is connected to the vaccine.
[00:50:39] The Verz reports prove that this vaccine
[00:50:41] and I'll just face it.
[00:50:42] We know the reporting on Verz is inaccurate.
[00:50:44] It's extremely low but at the end of the day
[00:50:46] even that shows a massive never before seen spike
[00:50:50] of deaths related to the vaccine and side effects.
[00:50:53] So it's the same thing.
[00:50:54] I think climate has to continue to get disclosed.
[00:50:56] There's a lot of money behind it.
[00:50:58] This climate agenda movement,
[00:51:00] it's more of that kind of legislation
[00:51:02] that gets packed on the 4,300 page bills
[00:51:05] in Washington DC and they do a very good job.
[00:51:08] I mean, let's face it,
[00:51:09] they have done a fantastic job of controlling the media.
[00:51:12] So they create the narratives in DC.
[00:51:15] They create the funding in DC.
[00:51:16] They've got, you know,
[00:51:17] it's the good old boy network there
[00:51:19] and now they hand that off to the Washington Post,
[00:51:22] the New York Times or whoever else
[00:51:24] to disseminate those stories just like they do on CNN.
[00:51:27] And then it gets passed through
[00:51:29] and you look at all the other levels of the organization,
[00:51:31] they pay all kinds of people on social media
[00:51:34] to actually disseminate falsehoods
[00:51:36] and of course they use bot forms and everything else.
[00:51:39] Have you found that like at different times
[00:51:41] that the movie get taken down?
[00:51:42] Have you had any kind of attacks?
[00:51:44] Have you had your social media attack?
[00:51:46] Anything like that after the movie posted
[00:51:48] and it was starting to gain a lot of views?
[00:51:50] Yeah, one of the biggest is in just in recent weeks,
[00:51:53] Facebook has started putting up warnings
[00:51:55] and telling a word they're saying,
[00:51:57] you might get your account suspended or whatever
[00:51:59] if you link to our movie.
[00:52:01] So there's an attack there
[00:52:03] because it's supposed to be misinformation
[00:52:05] and of course it's information.
[00:52:07] They don't like the information.
[00:52:09] And yeah, so that's the big one.
[00:52:10] I do think that Google doesn't want people
[00:52:13] to watch the movie when you search for it,
[00:52:15] they wanna make it hard to find it
[00:52:17] but they haven't taken it down yet,
[00:52:18] which surprises me, it's still up.
[00:52:20] And I think there's about 100 or more copies of the movie up.
[00:52:23] Tons of people have downloaded it
[00:52:24] and then there's a lot of copies on YouTube
[00:52:26] and Rumble and Bitshoot and full copies are on X
[00:52:29] and all over the place.
[00:52:30] And that people are putting clips up everywhere.
[00:52:32] It's gonna be very hard for them to take it down
[00:52:34] cause it's kind of everywhere already.
[00:52:36] Well, after you spoke to us,
[00:52:37] we're gonna work with you
[00:52:38] on getting the translated versions of the movie,
[00:52:40] George's and that way
[00:52:41] I wanna tell our listeners subscribers
[00:52:43] you're gonna see climate the movie
[00:52:45] on the Big Meag Show channel on Rumble.
[00:52:47] We have a documentary channel we've been putting
[00:52:49] together, we probably got 10 or 12 documentaries now
[00:52:52] and we're working towards more.
[00:52:54] But I think I can tell you
[00:52:55] how to protect your movie on Facebook.
[00:52:57] I think you just need to put a picture
[00:52:58] for the opening credits of Zuckerberg's Yacht.
[00:53:02] Just put the yacht on the very front
[00:53:03] and just put climate the movie over the top of it.
[00:53:06] I would bet that your movie
[00:53:08] will not be taken down at that point
[00:53:10] cause obviously he wants everybody to know
[00:53:12] he owns that yacht.
[00:53:14] No, it'll probably have the reverse effect.
[00:53:16] Don't take my advice, it's not good.
[00:53:18] Probably gonna get you in trouble.
[00:53:20] You could put it in the closing credits though,
[00:53:22] maybe put it in the closing credits
[00:53:23] and talk about how much emissions that yacht-
[00:53:25] What about Al Gore with his plane
[00:53:26] flying around with his private jet?
[00:53:28] Another private jet guy.
[00:53:30] Yeah, that's the whole thing.
[00:53:31] I think the closing credits should be Zuck's Yacht,
[00:53:34] Al Gore's private plane, Schwab's private plane,
[00:53:38] of course, all of them.
[00:53:40] Maybe some shots from the Davos runway
[00:53:42] as they're landing all the jets
[00:53:43] and they're gonna talk about climate change.
[00:53:45] Yeah, so listen, what's the next for you, Tom and Martin?
[00:53:49] Are you guys working on the next project?
[00:53:51] What's the next movie in your stack?
[00:53:53] Are you working on one or do you have something else going on?
[00:53:55] I know you've got a podcast.
[00:53:57] I wanna give you some time to tell everybody
[00:53:59] where to find you on social media,
[00:54:00] where to find your podcast
[00:54:01] and any other project you're working on.
[00:54:04] Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff we haven't announced yet
[00:54:06] that we're gonna be working on
[00:54:07] but one thing that Martin has announced
[00:54:08] is he's working on a book,
[00:54:10] a related book about the new class,
[00:54:12] about how there's a class of people
[00:54:14] who really want to control our lives.
[00:54:16] They don't have real jobs
[00:54:18] and they want the money and the power
[00:54:20] but of the people who are doing the plumbers
[00:54:23] and the farmers, there's always people doing real jobs.
[00:54:25] There's a new class who consider themselves superior
[00:54:27] and they wanna control us.
[00:54:29] He's writing a whole book on that.
[00:54:30] It's brilliant stuff.
[00:54:31] He goes through a lot of history of the world,
[00:54:34] how there always has been a class of people
[00:54:36] who don't wanna work,
[00:54:37] they wanna feed off of the rest of us.
[00:54:38] So there's that.
[00:54:39] I can talk about,
[00:54:41] you can go to Tom Nelson's sub stack
[00:54:43] and you can find out a lot more about the movie.
[00:54:45] You can go to climatethemovie.net to watch the movie
[00:54:47] but it's on a lot of other places too.
[00:54:50] And my Twitter feed is just Tom A. Nelson.
[00:54:53] So that's where I am on X.
[00:54:55] So if you wanna follow me, that's great.
[00:54:58] Yeah, that's great.
[00:54:59] We appreciate that.
[00:55:00] Do you have any other projects of your own
[00:55:01] that you're coming up with?
[00:55:02] Do you have anything in the works?
[00:55:04] I'm just, right now I'm putting out a lot of podcasts.
[00:55:06] I'm kind of booked through July.
[00:55:08] I'm putting out a couple per week
[00:55:09] and it's been really fun just talking to
[00:55:11] all sorts of people about climate and energy.
[00:55:13] Some people talk just about like nuclear power
[00:55:16] and some people talk about the greenhouse effect
[00:55:18] and all sorts of different things.
[00:55:20] A lot of different people are offering their perspectives
[00:55:23] and I've learned a ton.
[00:55:24] It's been really fun doing the podcast.
[00:55:26] Yeah, if you could unify everybody on these,
[00:55:28] if you could unify the entire world against these elites
[00:55:30] you just cut off all their services.
[00:55:32] No phone, no anything.
[00:55:34] Take away, don't service them.
[00:55:35] Don't pump gas for them.
[00:55:37] Don't allow them to buy groceries.
[00:55:38] Don't allow them to get mail.
[00:55:39] Just cut them off completely from the world.
[00:55:41] We'll see how that goes for them.
[00:55:42] Even the most money in the world.
[00:55:44] With no services whatsoever,
[00:55:45] I bet they maybe changed their tune.
[00:55:47] At the end of the day,
[00:55:48] I've always had a belief that you reap what you sow.
[00:55:52] At the end of the day, these individuals
[00:55:53] I believe have ill intent.
[00:55:55] I don't trust any of them for anything.
[00:55:56] George, comments.
[00:55:58] I don't, listen.
[00:56:00] When they try to force something on you,
[00:56:02] I don't trust them.
[00:56:03] Plain and simple.
[00:56:04] Especially when a government does it,
[00:56:05] definitely don't trust them.
[00:56:07] And if you can't talk about it,
[00:56:10] that's another way I don't trust them.
[00:56:12] You should be able to have conversations
[00:56:16] to combat each other, not in a bad way,
[00:56:17] but show your proof.
[00:56:19] Bring the receipts, right?
[00:56:20] And I always say bring the receipts.
[00:56:22] They don't got the receipts.
[00:56:23] They just make stuff up.
[00:56:25] So why should I listen to them?
[00:56:27] Hell no.
[00:56:28] I'm gonna listen to myself.
[00:56:29] My doctor said don't get the jab this and that.
[00:56:31] I didn't get the jab.
[00:56:31] I don't need to get the jab.
[00:56:32] I'm gonna listen to my doctor, not your doctors.
[00:56:35] I know my doctor, I trust them.
[00:56:37] And when you think about they paid 13,
[00:56:40] I don't know how old she was when he started, Greta.
[00:56:42] A non-scientific, non-educated individual
[00:56:46] that's supposed to represent the climate movement.
[00:56:51] Greta, it's pretty pathetic, right?
[00:56:52] I mean, Greta isn't qualified.
[00:56:54] She doesn't have any education
[00:56:55] other than what has been force fed to her by her handlers.
[00:56:59] It's pretty incredible that that's been
[00:57:00] the poster child for climate across the world.
[00:57:04] Yeah, it's just so weird, that whole thing that she,
[00:57:07] her mom had a book that came out that Saturday, I think.
[00:57:10] She had the book ready to go.
[00:57:11] Clearly there was all sorts of planning.
[00:57:13] The whole story of Greta was not what we were told.
[00:57:16] Again, they're trying to pull the wool over
[00:57:18] our eyes over and over.
[00:57:19] It's a, I don't trust them at all.
[00:57:21] I guess you guys don't need her, which is good.
[00:57:23] No, it's definitely not.
[00:57:25] The big Meg has a low level of trust,
[00:57:27] especially when people come out of the blue
[00:57:29] and they say that they're experts in any area.
[00:57:32] I'm like show me the money.
[00:57:33] Show me exactly why you're an expert.
[00:57:36] Listen, Tom, we really appreciate you filling in
[00:57:38] for Martin like he did such short notice.
[00:57:40] We'll definitely have you back on
[00:57:42] and let Martin know we appreciate him.
[00:57:43] And then we should talk further about
[00:57:46] the translation stuff and getting that turned around
[00:57:48] for you guys at least help
[00:57:49] because let's get that voice bigger.
[00:57:50] Anything we can do to expand the views on that.
[00:57:53] And of course, remember Big Meg Mafia and subscribers,
[00:57:56] you guys will have an opportunity
[00:57:57] to see climate the movie on our channel
[00:58:00] on Rumble, it'll be there.
[00:58:01] We'll figure that out.
[00:58:03] In the meantime, don't forget to follow us on X
[00:58:06] at Lance Maliacho, G-Balantine and the Big Meg Show
[00:58:09] on all of those channels, Lance Maliacho,
[00:58:11] George Balantine and the Big Meg.
[00:58:14] If you can afford to subscribe, please do.
[00:58:16] It's $5 a month, it's no big deal.
[00:58:17] You can do it over there on Rumble or locals.
[00:58:20] If you can't do that,
[00:58:21] we'll take a free subscription,
[00:58:22] let everybody know about the show.
[00:58:23] We need to get more eyeballs,
[00:58:25] more views, more expansion.
[00:58:26] And we're gonna have some great guests next week.
[00:58:28] I'll be announcing them over in the Twitter community.
[00:58:31] So join that community on X.
[00:58:33] And I said Twitter again,
[00:58:35] so George you can call me out on that one.
[00:58:37] That's right Lance, I'll let you slide.
[00:58:38] Ha ha ha ha.
[00:58:40] All right guys, we appreciate you, George.
[00:58:42] Last words.
[00:58:43] God bless you guys tomorrow night.
[00:58:44] It's just me and Lance in our commentary, fun times,
[00:58:47] truth, facts, receipts and sarcasm.
[00:58:50] See you guys tomorrow.
[00:58:51] Peace out.
[00:58:52] See you later.
[00:58:53] Yeah.
[00:58:54] Tom, thanks very much.
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