Children’s Health Defense w/ Mary Holland |EP454
The Big Mig ShowJanuary 08, 2025
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Children’s Health Defense w/ Mary Holland |EP454

THE BIG MIG SHOW 

JANUARY 07, 2025 

EPISODE 454 – 7PM

 

Mary Holland, Esq. Chief Executive Officer, Children’s Health Defense

As Chief Executive Officer of Children’s Health Defense, Mary Holland has been involved in the vaccine choice and health freedom movement for more than two decades. “Once I learned about the extreme liability protection that industry and healthcare providers enjoy and the suppression of accurate science and information about vaccine risk and injury, I understood the need for immediate, radical systemic change. I’ve been devoted to that change ever since.”

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that. But tonight, if you guys haven't

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heard of the Children's Health Defense, you should have.

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We're here with the CEO, Mary Holland, really, and you and

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you've seen it on our show. You know, we bring on everybody

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from both sides of the aisle. We bring people that have

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connections to RFK, Junior, Trump, non partisans, liberals.

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We bring them all here because you know, on this show, it's a

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uniparty as far as we're concerned.

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There's some Great American patriots and then there's the

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rest of them. And that's what we do on this

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show. We expose the truth with our

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guests, whether it's about health, whether it's about

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fluoride, whether it's about we talk about MMA, we talk about

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all sorts of guests. But tonight we're joined by the

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Mary Holland and she is, as I said, the CEO of Children's

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Health Defense. She's been involved in the

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vaccine choice and health freedom movement for more than

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two decades. That's right, 20 years.

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And here's a quote from her. Once I learned about the extreme

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liability protection that industry and healthcare

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providers enjoy, and the suppression of accurate science

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and information about vaccine risk and injury, I understood

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the need for immediate, radical, systemic change.

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I've been noted that change ever since she's seeking at the CHD

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to end the epidemic of chronic childhood diseases, hold those

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responsible accountable. And you know, on this show, we

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love to hear about accountability and consequences.

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That's what it's all about. And create safeguards so that

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this these epidemics never happen again.

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Through its education, advocacy, litigation, research, CHD

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challenges federal and state governments, pharmaceutical

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companies, corporations, and corrupt regulatory agencies.

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The end the practices that are harming Children's Health In the

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age of COVID, CHD's to protect health, especially infants.

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And Children's Health has never been more important.

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Hopefully you guys caught the interview with Cali Means last

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night. We're going to try to get his

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sister on. She just got married, so it

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might be a minute before we do what we're planning.

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This is all part of that same model.

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You really want to listen closely tonight, George?

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No reason to leave Mary backstage.

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All right, let's go. Let's go.

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Welcome to the big, big show, Mary Holland.

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How you doing? I'm great.

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Thanks, George. Nice to see you, Lance.

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Thanks for having me. Yeah, Mary, we're excited you're

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here. It's, it's too bad we didn't run

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into you at Rescue the Republic. Obviously everybody was super

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busy there, but that tent was out of control, that press tent.

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But that was a great event. And I think the, I think it

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really made some differences, don't you think?

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I do. I, I did think it was a great

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event and I was saying that, you know, I think at least a half a

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million people across the country and probably around the

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world were watching it live. And I think it was a show of

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worth on the mall in DC before the election.

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And I think there's people across the aisle, as you say,

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who want to preserve the preciousness of the American

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experiment. It really is a very precious

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country. And and I think, you know, there

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are patriots everywhere who don't want to see it decline and

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don't want to see it destroyed. So I was really happy to

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participate and rescue the Republic, as was Children's

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Health Defense. You know, we're always excited.

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One of our main goals on this show, we always call it

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educating and unifying the country one episode at a time.

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Anything that gets this, you know, this partisan garbage

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they've been selling us on for so long.

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I don't really believe that there's Republicans and

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Democrats anymore. I wish there was.

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I think there's people with conservative values and, you

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know, whether that's the far right or the far left, but you

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know, I think what's happened is that they have done such a good

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job in the media trying to keep us divided.

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They don't want people to unify because let's face it, there's

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300 + 1 of us arguably, and there's only 535 of them.

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It wouldn't be much of A fair fight if we were unified.

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So they have to act like, but we're we're divided in our

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thought process. Now, I don't know politically.

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Let's talk about your politics for a minute only because I'm

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interested. Were you post of RFK Junior and

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Trump? Because I know Cali means wasn't

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always a pro Trump guy, although he had conservative leaning

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values. Were you, were you before they

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unified RFK junior and Trump? Were you a Trumper or an anti

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Trumper? Did you not like him?

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Were you unsure? You know, I, I, we're a tax

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exempt organization. So I was thinking personally,

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you know, I wasn't a big fan of Donald Trump, but I think Robert

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Kennedy really brought me around, frankly, to have to heal

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the divide, much like what you're saying and, and unifying

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the people and bringing together this iconic figure from an

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iconic Democratic family with Donald Trump from the Republican

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Party. And both of them are so distinct

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from those parties. I, I found it very uplifting.

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I think it is, as you had earlier said, you, you did as

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well. We, we cannot continue to have

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to allow these divide and conquer politics to, to succeed

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and, and divide and conquer is about the oldest political

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strategy in the book. And we've allowed ourselves to,

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you know, fall prey to that. And so I see what Bobby and

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Trump are doing is to unite around what's really important

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core values of free speech that we're going to talk about

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tonight and Children's Health and and being against war.

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These are core, core human values, let alone American

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values. So I'm very grateful that

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they've come together. And I think the election showed

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that there is an overwhelming part of the American public,

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even with all the false information in mainstream media

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that behind this unification. And my best guess is that with

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changes in the media that we're already seeing starting to

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happen, there will be many more people that will come to really

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embrace this combination and embrace this new beginning in

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American politics. I think if the media actually

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would have told their stories correctly and not lied so much

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from the beginning, a lot of other people would see Trump

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differently. But there's a lot of people that

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like as as you were like weren't a fan of Trump and but come

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around and listen. I think what they did the

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Kennedy it just they just expose themselves the Democratic Party.

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I mean, he's a Kennedy. Like, for God's sakes, what is?

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Wrong. The guy didn't deserve it.

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That's how out of touch they are with reality.

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I mean, he, he's. Always worked.

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He's like if you think. Yeah, he's the face of the

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Democratic Party if you really look at it from it, from his

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family all, all those years and. Well, and, and from his

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biography, you know, he was considered as a candidate for

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New York Senate. He was considered as a candidate

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for New York governor. He was a mainstay of the

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Democratic Party. Actually before COVID, when I

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would travel, when I would meet Bobby, because I was testifying

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with him in state legislatures, he would meet with all the

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Democratic leaders of the state. He would go meet with the

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governor. He would meet with the the key

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Assembly and Senate people. The idea that he was treated as

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a pariah is just before Trump, long before they would not let

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this man run as Bobby Kennedy. I mean you.

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Know the way they attacked him was so unsavory.

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You know I knew him to be a big dog person for years and years

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and years. Even even that stupid dog story

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about how he supposedly ate a dog when it was a goat or

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whatever the hell. It was just the whole plan and

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they didn't want to give him Secret Service protection when

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he needed it. There were so many things.

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But let's face it, they have done an incredible job of

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controlling the narrative. I mean, they've controlled

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mainstream media for so long and they've done their best to

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control social media, whether it was Facebook, we saw it in the

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Twitter Files, whether we've seen it on Instagram or other

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platforms, even YouTube. We got suspended again the other

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day and we believe it again was because we were talking about

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some kind of medical health or vaccine.

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The first suspension we got, we had to open up a new account.

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They suspended us because we put up theirs and CDC information on

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our during our show and they cancel us for that now.

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I think it's the same thing. We must have been talking about

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something health wise and they act as if they're free speech.

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I'd love to see you 2 face some penalties for disinformation and

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medical health suppression. You know, we were trying to help

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people even during the vaccine period and and warn them.

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We had people like Peter McCullough and Doctor Tenpenny

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and Judy Mykovitz and Stella Manuel.

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We've had so many people on the show just, you know, putting out

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real health information and they did everything they could.

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And when it comes to Bobby or others, it's disgusting.

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And, and my thing is, I just don't think you can continue to

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let those people get away with what they did.

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I think they have to face consequences for it or the next

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wave will come. Because as we said backstage

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before we started, four years is short.

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You really only have about 2 1/2 to 3:00 because then they all

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start campaigning for the next election and it's not a lot of

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time. So let's tell, let's tell the

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audience for those that don't know out there, Mary, I know

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it's a 501C3 nonprofit child's health bench, but tell them

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about the mission and what you guys are focused on 1st before

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we get digging into this. Sure.

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So Bobby Kennedy founded Children's Health Defense and he

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joined, he, he took it from something that was called World

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Mercury Project and it really was about looking at the toxic

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exposures that are harming children.

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Over 50%, well over 50% of kids in the United States have some

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kind of chronic health condition.

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So it became named Children's Health Defense in 2018, looking

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far beyond just mercury, but looking at aluminum, looking at

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glyphosate, looking at toxic food, looking at the toxic

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exposure of vaccines, which is 1/3 rail issue.

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And that was our primary focus, Lance, until Covic happened.

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And when Covic happened with all of the misinformation, the

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suppression of information, and then the pushing of these

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completely inadequately tested vaccines that didn't stop

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infection or transmission, CHD rose to the occasion.

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And we brought lawsuits that we'll talk about against the

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censorship. And we brought lawsuits against

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the authorization of the COVID shots for children without

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adequate testing. And we really scaled up to deal

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with COVID. Now that COVID is scaling back,

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God willing, although there are residual issues that we're

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focused on, we're refocusing on our mandate to end the epidemic

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of chronic childhood disease. We have got to stop those things

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that are are causing our children to be sick.

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What kind of adults are we if we're letting this continue?

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And we do that through transparency and advocating for

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choice. And the way that we bring

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transparency, we have a streaming platform, we're out

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everyday doing our own podcast. We have a daily newsletter

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Monday through Friday, and then the best of it on Sunday, the

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Defender at our website, Children's Health Defense.

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And then we're doing our own science work.

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We're really investigating and interrogating vaccines.

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And we're bringing lawsuits against mandates, against the

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the the wrongful termination of peoples who asserted religious

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exemptions to enforce medical exemptions and against

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censorship. And we'll get into all of these

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things. You know, I want to say

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something. Actually today vaccine stocks

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jumped up due to the first US bird flu death, believe it or

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not. So they're going to try pushing.

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I don't know. They have, I don't know.

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I don't know if they have a vaccine for this bird flu yet.

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They do they, George, Sure. They can be preemptively ready

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for sale. You can be certain that they

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have a vaccine if they're exactly hundreds of millions of

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the governments money on this. Are we gonna are we gonna turn

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into a bird if we don't get the vaccine?

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Parla yeah. I mean, it's so ridiculous.

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It's so ridiculous. But you know, one of the things

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we imagine that the CDC and the FDA and the NIH are independent

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and that they're the government and that they're not involved in

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the mercantile business of selling medical products.

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They are entirely involved in the selling of vaccines and

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medical products. People don't realize that they

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are completely captured agencies.

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And that's one of the things that Bobby has been saying for

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years. And there's a million different

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ways that they're entwined that we can talk about.

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But CDCFDANIH, these are not independent regulators.

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In fact, they are regulated by the industries that they

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allegedly regulate. Yeah.

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You know, they're, they, they should count their blessings

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that I'm not the person that's becoming president of the United

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States. Because I can tell you that the

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CDC, the NIH and The Who would be my day.

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Day one, they'd be on an executive order being criminal

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organizations because I think they've misrepresented to the

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public. They've committed fraud in so

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many ways. When I hear the stories about

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patents that are owned and I see the documents showing who owns

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what the FDA and others or Anthony Fauci as an example to

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me that none of that's been disclosed and they keep peddling

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this to to the adults and children and the media is

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complicit. And I think this kind of a

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criminal entity, this is concurrent criminal enterprise.

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It's conspiracy, it's racketeering.

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It's. Rico, I think that is a very

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legitimate perspective. Lance, I just came across the

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data that bio and tech, right. So the shots, the main shots in

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the US were Pfizer, bio and tech, bio and tech just this was

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in the German media. It's not in the US Media, IO and

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tech paid over $700 million direct to NIH for their patent

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sharing, right? These are not regulators.

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These are manufacturers. These are vaccine producers.

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And they're put. And so the idea that they're

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somehow concerned primarily about safety, it's just not

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true. Yeah, yeah.

00:18:21
And you know, it's tough because any parent is hoping they're

00:18:25
doing the right thing for their children.

00:18:26
They try to make decisions based on the information they're

00:18:29
provided. And they've done such an amazing

00:18:30
job of brainwashing the American public to make them appear as

00:18:35
though they're the experts in the field.

00:18:37
You know, you hear the name FDA or you hear the name World

00:18:40
Health Organization. And you think that that's the

00:18:42
competent, trustworthy information, at least the way

00:18:46
we're raised. But as you, as you, you know, of

00:18:48
course, all media has done an amazing job.

00:18:50
But as you start to educate yourself, you, you, you find out

00:18:54
more and more how horrendous and how frightening the involvement

00:18:59
of these agencies are and what they've done when we had Cali on

00:19:03
last night. I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm appalled

00:19:05
actually, when you start looking at the way that our, our food

00:19:09
cycle has been attacked and the way it's been marketed, you

00:19:12
know, to create this, this need for ultra processed foods.

00:19:16
We were talking last night. I got to ask you, everybody has

00:19:18
a thing. I go on social media and I, you

00:19:20
know, if I go down a rabbit hole, one of the things I get

00:19:22
drawn into looking, looking at that I like to find as they come

00:19:24
up, which I don't know why I, I think I'm a crackhead in my own

00:19:27
right about this. But I like to see the food

00:19:30
that's being served to other schools in other parts of the

00:19:33
world, like the, the South Koreans have this amazing lunch.

00:19:36
It's all fresh. It's not not processed that they

00:19:39
present to their children. Same thing in many other

00:19:41
countries. So I'll see what they're serving

00:19:42
them. And then I look at what we're

00:19:43
serving the kids here and I, and I look at that and think, OK,

00:19:47
well, who's making money on it here?

00:19:48
Who's responsible for us poisoning our children?

00:19:52
And thank goodness we got, I guess, suspended on YouTube

00:19:54
again. Or maybe it's permanent.

00:19:55
George thinks it's permanent this time.

00:19:57
It probably is because if we were having this discussion

00:19:59
right now, YouTube would give us a strike.

00:20:02
And to me, that's terrible because you're an expert in the

00:20:05
field. Let's talk about Trump for a

00:20:07
second. He was never, and he admits it.

00:20:11
He's not a health expert. He admits it over and over

00:20:13
again. He thinks he was led down the

00:20:14
primrose path, especially behind the scenes.

00:20:16
He talks about the information that he was given that was

00:20:19
medical misinformation by Fauci and others.

00:20:22
He was getting some decent stuff, but he didn't understand

00:20:24
some of the things he said out loud.

00:20:26
He didn't really comprehend. I think, for example, chlorine

00:20:28
dioxide, when he was talking about that, he mentioned Clorox

00:20:32
and of course the whole world went wild, but it was chlorine

00:20:34
dioxide that he was trying to repeat.

00:20:37
What's his interaction? Let's talk about what you think

00:20:39
will happen. Do you think that Trump on I, I

00:20:42
know his relationship with Bobby is, is really developed.

00:20:45
I hear great things behind the scenes about their dialogue from

00:20:49
people that are in the know. Do you think he's going to be

00:20:52
ready to to support CHADHD or or hinder?

00:20:57
Do you think he's got a plan and he's ready to go full force in

00:21:00
effect to get our kids healthy again?

00:21:02
Do I make sure I understand the question?

00:21:04
Do you think that President Trump is going to support Bobby

00:21:06
Kennedy as HHS Secretary to? Me, no.

00:21:09
For for what? What's going to happen with the

00:21:10
Children's Health Defense? Do you think they're ready to

00:21:13
make the changes? Because I know you guys have got

00:21:15
a great plan to execute. Well, yes, so do I think.

00:21:18
I think Bobby Kennedy, having founded CHD, is 100 percent,

00:21:22
1000% behind ending the epidemic of chronic childhood disease.

00:21:27
I, I believe he understands the problem literally better than

00:21:31
almost anybody in the country. And I think he's 1000%

00:21:34
dedicated. And my sense of it is that

00:21:37
President Trump is really behind him to accomplish that goal.

00:21:41
But I do know that President Trump publicly has said you have

00:21:44
two years to show results. So Bobby Kennedy's under real

00:21:47
pressure to show results. And it's hard to say exactly

00:21:51
what he's going to do first, Lance.

00:21:53
But I do know that, you know, he is going to hit the ground

00:21:57
running. And given the background that he

00:21:59
has over many, many years, he has, I think, many plans that he

00:22:05
will put in place right away. And I think he was deeply

00:22:08
involved in the people who are being nominated to head the CDC.

00:22:13
Doctor Dave Weldon, who was in Congress, who absolutely

00:22:16
understands these issues. Doctor J Bhattacharya out of

00:22:19
Stanford, who was persecuted for saying COVID is not as dangerous

00:22:23
as you say it is. He's going to head NIH.

00:22:26
And Marty Makari, Dr. Marty Makari is coming out of Hopkins

00:22:30
to head the FDA, Doctor Oz to do CMS.

00:22:34
These are people that are definitely allied with Bobby's

00:22:37
vision. And I'm very confident that our

00:22:41
group, Children's Health Defense will certainly be supporting

00:22:44
their agenda to the extent that it is about transparency and

00:22:48
about choice. Think about how basic this is,

00:22:52
that people should have choice and transparency.

00:22:55
This is the essence of informed consent.

00:22:57
And coming out of World War 2, having seen the atrocities of

00:23:00
Nazi doctors, the US jurist, a former member of the US Supreme

00:23:05
Court, said, you know, you have to have choice.

00:23:08
You have to have information and you have to have choice.

00:23:11
Now, that was about experimentation, but since 1945,

00:23:15
that's been expanded to other, every other area of medicine.

00:23:19
So we're not recommending or advocating for anything that's

00:23:23
not at the core of ethical medicine.

00:23:25
We're just saying people have to have truthful information and

00:23:28
you have to have a choice of whether you take a treatment or

00:23:31
whether you have some kind of surgery or whether you take a

00:23:34
vaccine. And you have to have that choice

00:23:36
from cradle to grave. You have to have that choice.

00:23:39
What do you think will happen? You know, one of the things that

00:23:42
I hate in government is the term absolute immunity, qualified

00:23:46
immunity. And I to me, what's happened

00:23:48
with the, you know, big pharma and many, of many of those in

00:23:52
the FDA, they've given themselves this kind of above

00:23:55
the law status where you can't sue them.

00:23:57
That that classification as an experimental, you know, vaccine

00:24:01
and the fact that they had look at the information they don't

00:24:04
want to release that they knew about the side effects, they

00:24:07
knew about the consequences and they hid that from the American

00:24:10
public. You've got some lawsuits going.

00:24:12
I don't know if any of those are connected to that exact issue.

00:24:15
But to me, absolute immunity, these pre emptive, Hey, we get

00:24:18
to do whatever we want and there's no, there's no

00:24:21
accountability. We can, if you get injured that

00:24:23
you signed the paper or you saw the release and that's it.

00:24:25
And I think that's not, you know, this is fraud, really.

00:24:28
Absolutely. You know, I want to bring some

00:24:30
up. So bringing all those people in

00:24:33
like, you know, the head, the be head of CDC, the NIH, here's a

00:24:38
here's a dilemma that I have what there needs to be something

00:24:43
laws, something put in place so this doesn't happen again.

00:24:46
So if there's a new guard, they don't get rid of those people

00:24:49
and put bad actors back in there.

00:24:51
This is the issue. And not only Robert Kennedy.

00:24:54
You said Robert Kennedy has two years.

00:24:56
Well, everybody in Congress on Republican side has two years

00:25:01
because everybody's looking, because we listen, we have all

00:25:04
three branches. They got to pass laws.

00:25:07
So, so a lot of these things don't happen again.

00:25:10
Whether they get it done, well, we're going to find out.

00:25:12
Right. So to 1st to Lance's point and

00:25:15
then to yours, George. So, Lance, I completely agree

00:25:18
with you that this liability protection that has that

00:25:21
Congress gave in 1986 in the National Childhood Vaccine

00:25:25
Injury Act and then in 2005 the Prep Act, they've given

00:25:30
basically blanket liability for all, almost all vaccines and for

00:25:35
lots of other medical products like the testing that happened

00:25:38
in the masks, all those things were considered covered

00:25:41
countermeasures when they were experimental or the childhood

00:25:43
vaccine program and the adult program like the flu shots, they

00:25:47
all have liability protection for pharma.

00:25:49
That was a grievous error by Congress.

00:25:51
Congress, you know, pharma obviously knew what it was

00:25:54
doing. I don't know whether Congress

00:25:56
fully understood what it was doing.

00:25:58
But the compensation program that took this out of the courts

00:26:02
has been a dismal failure. And it was an egregious error

00:26:06
because truly, this epidemic of chronic childhood disease could

00:26:10
not have happened had there been aggressive plaintiffs.

00:26:13
We. Just lose her.

00:26:16
Drugs and it's it's a huge issue.

00:26:20
I think you raised the point, George, just now about how they

00:26:23
have to show results in two years.

00:26:25
Yeah, they do. And I don't know that they'll be

00:26:27
able to change all the laws, but there's a lot that they can and

00:26:31
I believe will do with recommendations, with executive

00:26:35
orders, with the bully pulpit, with all of those things.

00:26:40
I think can they can make huge changes within two years and

00:26:43
people are going to see results. They're going to see fewer kids

00:26:46
being sick. They're going to see fewer

00:26:48
sudden infant deaths in children.

00:26:50
And that's that's going to make a difference.

00:26:53
You know, you guys have had some legal victories.

00:26:56
You know, what would, I guess what, what are some of the most

00:26:58
important ones you have and what do you foresee what your future

00:27:02
legal battles are going to be once the Trump administration

00:27:05
has kicked in? What do you see the the the

00:27:07
priorities for the Children's Health Defense?

00:27:09
Sure. Well, literally today we learned

00:27:14
about a new development that I believe was triggered by our

00:27:17
lawsuit, CHD, Children's Health Defense versus Meta Platforms or

00:27:21
Facebook, right. So we filed a lawsuit in 2020,

00:27:24
probably close to your heart about how we were being

00:27:27
demonetized, we were being suppressed, They were putting

00:27:29
CHD, they were putting the Centers for Disease Control

00:27:31
information on our website, clearly implying that our

00:27:35
information was false, although everything was verified.

00:27:38
And then we were completely de platformed in 2020. 22 and we've

00:27:41
never been put back on. We went to court in in the

00:27:45
Northern District of California as we had to under the terms of

00:27:48
service for Facebook, and we were dissed.

00:27:51
You know, no, your complaint has no merit.

00:27:53
Essentially, it's not plausible. All of the information comes out

00:27:57
in the case Missouri V. Biden about the collusion

00:27:59
between Facebook and the federal government and in particular the

00:28:03
White House to suppress Bobby Kennedy and CHD, particularly

00:28:07
even when the information was truthful.

00:28:09
The 9th Circuit just affirmed that decision.

00:28:11
But we filed a petition just a couple days ago with the US

00:28:15
Supreme Court. And lo and behold, Mark

00:28:18
Zuckerberg says, oh, we're going to get rid of the fact checkers

00:28:21
and we're going to let people decide whether the information

00:28:24
is, is, is truthful or not. You know, if it's not a big

00:28:26
deal, he's walking this back aggressively.

00:28:30
And we are not going to let up. This is really important, as

00:28:34
George points out, that this never happens again.

00:28:36
It is not enough for Mark Zuckerberg in his discretion to

00:28:39
say, oh, Gee, maybe we were a little too tough.

00:28:42
And we're, we're going, we're, we're now really all in on free

00:28:45
speech. We've got to create new laws and

00:28:48
regulations around the new public square.

00:28:50
And that is online information. And it cannot be acceptable for

00:28:54
people in the federal government to be telling those platforms

00:28:58
to, to censor people like Bobby Kennedy and Children's Health

00:29:01
Defense and then have them do that, which is basically

00:29:04
censorship by proxy. We cannot allow that in this

00:29:07
country. Free speech is the 1st Amendment

00:29:10
for a reason. You know, I'm, I'm not a fan of

00:29:13
Mark Zuckerberg. We've never spent a lot of time

00:29:16
over on Facebook, but George has had a couple of I think

00:29:18
suspensions over there, but they usually come back.

00:29:20
But we haven't really promoted over there because we know how

00:29:23
bad it is. You know, we've tried to develop

00:29:24
a relationship on YouTube. But like I said, if we were on

00:29:27
there with this show right now, guaranteed immediate strike.

00:29:30
And I think that definitely has to stop because the American

00:29:34
public deserves the right to have all the facts and make

00:29:38
their own choice. They deserve to have all the

00:29:39
information. They deserve to have the honest

00:29:42
information coming from somebody like yourself or RFK Junior

00:29:45
coming from Peter McCullough. But it's interesting.

00:29:48
I, I think one of the biggest problems we have in, in DC is

00:29:53
the, the, I want to call it the medical industrial complex.

00:29:57
Their lobbyists are the, some of the most powerful, if not the

00:30:00
most powerful. The only thing that may be is

00:30:02
equal would be the military industrial complex, you know,

00:30:04
lobbyists, but it's I don't know how we stop that unless we just

00:30:08
stop lobbying dead in its tracks.

00:30:10
No more lobbying because that's what they do.

00:30:12
They put the money behind the candidates that are, that are

00:30:14
weak and are corrupt and are willing to take the money so

00:30:17
they can hide it. And then when they use the

00:30:19
enforcement agencies, doesn't matter whether it's DHS or, or

00:30:24
it's the CIA's investment firm called Grafica or it's, you

00:30:28
know, the FBI, they, they've been controlling behind the

00:30:31
scenes. You know, George and I got

00:30:33
suspended. I got suspended a minute and 46

00:30:35
seconds after Trump because we were disclosing a thing called

00:30:38
Italy Gate that had to do with the Leonardo Spa satellite hack

00:30:41
and the information where they were transferring votes from

00:30:44
Donald Trump. It was fact.

00:30:45
It was coming out and it was getting stronger and stronger.

00:30:47
The story, myself and Maria Zach were kind of, she was running

00:30:50
the story at one end and I was running the story through other

00:30:52
sources and that's never been corrected.

00:30:56
You know, there's no, and I think that's the difficulty if

00:30:58
we don't get some of these people.

00:31:00
And I think George's point is so valid.

00:31:02
And George, I'll throw to you on this, you know, if some of these

00:31:06
people don't face some jail time, like a Fauci doesn't

00:31:09
actually end up in an orange jumper.

00:31:11
And I keep going back to that. The reason I think that's so

00:31:13
important is because if you don't instill some fear in them,

00:31:17
you know, let's face it, that's what they did with J6 J 6 was a

00:31:20
fear of that they had to get the American public to not protest

00:31:23
peacefully or otherwise. And they had to frame it in a

00:31:25
way that they could scare people to not doing it.

00:31:27
You know, I, I think if we don't see some really, really the kind

00:31:32
of consequences that you and I would face if we had committed

00:31:35
even 110th of the crimes they've committed.

00:31:37
If we don't do that, I don't know that we're not going to.

00:31:40
And George, you know, you and I have discussed this many times.

00:31:43
I don't know if we can stop this from happening as soon as the

00:31:46
Trump administration's done on their last term, you know, and I

00:31:48
don't know if it'll be Vance or if it'll be Bobby Kennedy or

00:31:51
another great choice, You know, are they, are they, are they

00:31:54
going to be working this whole time to figure out how they can

00:31:56
flip the votes again? George, what do you think?

00:31:59
The I think we need some consequences with some public

00:32:02
convictions. Yeah, well, 100%, Lance.

00:32:06
The last thing I want to see is more clown show congressional

00:32:10
hearings, inquiries where they find all this data evidence.

00:32:14
But then nothing happens. People defy subpoenas.

00:32:18
Oh, it's OK. Only Republicans allow people

00:32:20
get away with that now. I mean, there needs to be

00:32:22
consequences. There needs to be the truth put

00:32:25
out there so people can see what really happened.

00:32:28
And then we need laws passed. Like they need to pass election

00:32:31
integrity laws. They have less than two years

00:32:33
and they need to get it done. They need to just ban the

00:32:36
machines. I mean.

00:32:38
That should be this. That's that long.

00:32:41
I mean, they have so much to do, there's no way it's impossible

00:32:44
to get it done in four years. But they focus on like the

00:32:46
important things I. Want to throw this to Mary?

00:32:49
Look at even what Pfizer did, right?

00:32:51
We know that they knew about the consequences of their vaccines

00:32:55
prior to rolling them out. They'd already done lots of

00:32:57
research, but they wanted 70, I think it was 75 years to release

00:33:01
the documents. Now that was ruled against.

00:33:04
I know that hasn't. I don't know where they're at,

00:33:06
whether they're releasing it or they're fighting it.

00:33:08
No, they're, they're, they have to release it.

00:33:10
But they doctored a lot of it. That's the thing.

00:33:12
Well, they so, and it's interesting.

00:33:15
And so then they went back to court to say, oh, we're done.

00:33:18
And the court said no, no, no. And because information had been

00:33:21
leaked in the European Medicines Agency that they had not

00:33:25
produced. So the production of the

00:33:27
documents is continuing. Our colleagues at Daily Clout,

00:33:30
Naomi Wolf, organized thousands of volunteers with Steve Bannon

00:33:35
and War Room to put out this truthful information that was in

00:33:39
their clinical trials. But just just to say minimally

00:33:42
about those Pfizer clinical trials, they knew that these

00:33:48
shots, they didn't know that they would stop infection or

00:33:52
transmission and they knew that it was a very, very minuscule

00:33:57
amount of protection that it was going to provide.

00:34:00
It was relative risk, not absolute risk.

00:34:03
So it was absolutely deception. And within three months, 1200

00:34:09
people had been reported to Pfizer had died from these

00:34:12
shots. So they absolutely knew that

00:34:14
they were incredibly dangerous. They knew that they weren't.

00:34:16
They didn't know that they would be effective, put it that way.

00:34:19
And one of the really interesting lawsuits that our

00:34:21
colleagues at Health Freedom Defense Fund recently brought

00:34:24
got a 9th 9th Circuit decision. Well, not a decision, but the

00:34:28
9th Circuit language anyway that said that if it doesn't stop

00:34:33
infection and it doesn't stop transmission, there's absolutely

00:34:37
no basis for a mandate. This is regarding the Los

00:34:40
Angeles School District and and it wasn't a vaccine.

00:34:43
So they won on this. You know, it's not the end of

00:34:48
the case, but this issue that was that even a vaccine, it's

00:34:52
not a vaccine if it doesn't stop transmission, it's a treatment.

00:34:56
And I think we're into this whole new world of so-called

00:34:59
vaccines, including the RSV vaccine, the respiratory

00:35:03
syncytial virus vaccine, which they're not really classic

00:35:07
vaccines in any sense of the word.

00:35:09
And I think this is the beauty of the vaccine, as you pointed

00:35:13
out, Lance, is that there's liability protection under this

00:35:16
1986 misguided law from Congress.

00:35:19
And you get to mandate vaccines in in the schools.

00:35:23
And one of the things we fight against is there cannot be

00:35:26
universal mandates. Every person is unique.

00:35:30
Every person has different medical history and different

00:35:33
medical vulnerabilities. You cannot have A1 size fits all

00:35:37
safe vaccine full stop. I think you're you're referring

00:35:41
to, I believe that decision was a 13th Circuit where they said

00:35:45
it's not a vaccine because it doesn't they can't you they,

00:35:47
they specifically said that they can't call it a vaccine because

00:35:51
it doesn't stop the transmission.

00:35:53
It does. It doesn't work like a vaccine

00:35:55
is supposed to. But they but what I don't

00:35:57
understand is you still see the commercials and they're still

00:35:59
saying get the get the COVID vaccine.

00:36:04
Well, that decision just sends the case back.

00:36:07
That's the last thing. It's the case against the Los

00:36:09
Angeles School district. It takes it sends it back for

00:36:11
discovery. So that's not sort of definitive

00:36:14
and it's not the law yet. And the CDC is basically

00:36:17
advertising these shots. And don't forget, the COVID

00:36:20
shots are recommended for babies starting at six months, and

00:36:23
they're recommended. These boosters are recommended

00:36:26
for everybody right now. And they're incredibly

00:36:29
dangerous, right? We know this from theirs, as you

00:36:32
mentioned. We know this from the V data.

00:36:34
We know this from the sudden unexplained death.

00:36:36
We know this from the demographic information that's

00:36:39
out there. We know that these shots are

00:36:41
incredibly harmful and yet they're still being pushed.

00:36:45
And again, that why? How can we explain that?

00:36:47
Well, the CDC and the FDA are vaccine manufacturers.

00:36:50
That's who they are. And you know, what's awful is

00:36:53
how slow our legal system is when it comes to just like

00:36:56
George mentioned committees a minute ago, I'm so tired of

00:36:59
hearings and committees and the Republicans stomping their feet

00:37:03
and we found this, we found that and then nothing happens or I'm

00:37:05
tired of them. You know, Peter Navarro does it,

00:37:07
Steve Bannon does it. They go right to jail.

00:37:09
And otherwise they're, they're subpoenaing members of Congress

00:37:12
to testify in other agencies and they're just ignoring the

00:37:15
subpoenas. You know, and, and you see this,

00:37:18
how do you guys, and I, I know it must be difficult at times,

00:37:21
how do you counteract the misinformation of the bias

00:37:23
reporting in the mainstream media?

00:37:25
You know, because it just goes on and on and on.

00:37:27
I'm sure every day, especially if you're writing newsletters

00:37:30
like you do on the Children's Health Defense Fund site.

00:37:32
And I read some of the articles, they're great.

00:37:35
But but I'm sure there's everything from The Daily Beast

00:37:38
to The New York Times and the Washington Post probably arguing

00:37:41
that the information you guys are putting out is incorrect.

00:37:43
How do you battle that? And what are we going to do for

00:37:45
the future to stop that garbage? I'm going to hold you on that

00:37:50
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you know, consequences. And I know Pam Bondi's coming

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in. I know she was a good attorney

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general for Florida. She means business.

00:43:48
I think she's like the I don't, I don't think the Democrats,

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they don't know what's like she's capable of.

00:43:54
I don't know. What's your thoughts?

00:43:55
Like, are we going to see me see some rest?

00:43:57
Because I know Fauci, I said this yesterday.

00:43:59
You know, he he doesn't have his Secret Service detail anymore.

00:44:04
Yeah, I think he does. He's still in government

00:44:07
protection. No, he's not.

00:44:08
They got no there's any other day there's in the news.

00:44:09
No more Secret Service detail. OK, Well, I, I would be

00:44:12
surprised if he didn't have private, you know, Security

00:44:15
Service because I think he's. Well, he's made millions during

00:44:18
the pandemic. He probably can afford the the

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most exclusive Security Service in the world, probably.

00:44:23
I think that's probably right. You know, I don't know what DOJ

00:44:28
has in store. I don't know what Pam Bondi has

00:44:30
in store. But I completely agree with you

00:44:32
all that we have to have some consequences.

00:44:35
It's not enough to simply have, you know, people jawbone in

00:44:39
Congress about what went wrong and and let's start a new

00:44:42
beginning. We can't do that.

00:44:44
We really do have to show that people committed crimes during

00:44:47
COVID. There's no question in my mind

00:44:50
that crimes were committed. And we do have to start with a

00:44:53
level of accountability that we really haven't seen in a really

00:44:57
long time. So I'm hopeful that that that

00:45:00
HHS will be working with DOJ to at least threaten to prosecute,

00:45:05
if not prosecute some of this fraud and some of this fraud

00:45:10
that killed people. Let's just say that it's, it's

00:45:12
not just any old financial fraud.

00:45:15
What we saw was fraud that killed people.

00:45:17
So I'm, I'm hopeful about that. But I think, Lance, you raised

00:45:21
the question about, you know, how do we deal with mainstream

00:45:24
media? How do we overcome that?

00:45:25
Well, one of the things that the new administration, I believe

00:45:28
can do is by executive order, they could stop pharmaceutical

00:45:32
advertising on television and in print media for prescription

00:45:37
medications and vaccines. So, you know, every country in

00:45:40
the world outlaws advertising direct to consumer except the US

00:45:44
and New Zealand with a population of 4 million that

00:45:47
advertising not, it's not just about advertising the products,

00:45:51
it's about buying mainstream meeting.

00:45:54
It's about censoring information like ours and like yours.

00:45:58
And so to undo the spell and the power of mainstream media, it's

00:46:03
going to be critical to take their financial power away from

00:46:07
them, to take the finances away. And I do, I do believe that that

00:46:10
it this was put into place, this advertising of prescription

00:46:14
drugs was put into place by President Clinton in the 90s.

00:46:17
And it can be taken away. I'm not going to say that it's

00:46:20
going to be easy. And without pharma fighting

00:46:22
tooth and nail, of course they're going to fight like

00:46:24
crazy. And I'm sure there'd be

00:46:25
litigation. But it was introduced only in

00:46:29
the 1990s. And it did absolutely,

00:46:31
fundamentally change the landscape for pharma and

00:46:35
Congress and the media. I mean they banned tobacco

00:46:40
commercials and stuff so they could do that for big pharma.

00:46:43
Why not? You're right.

00:46:45
I mean, they absolutely can. And there there could be

00:46:47
settlements along the lines of what happened with tobacco, with

00:46:50
the with pharma for the the fraud and for the harm that

00:46:54
they've caused. I think people don't appreciate

00:46:56
we, we do focus a lot on vaccines, not exclusively.

00:47:00
People don't appreciate the scale of the injuries and the

00:47:04
impact of vaccines. People don't really.

00:47:06
And I think fortunately, I think this is a high priority of

00:47:09
Senator Johnson now being to have.

00:47:13
He's been fantastic and I, I believe that he's very serious

00:47:16
about this issue in the Senate. Certainly Robert Kennedy, I

00:47:19
believe, is going to bring some transparency to this area.

00:47:23
So I think people are going to start to have a much better

00:47:26
appreciation of the harms that have been caused by pharma.

00:47:29
Because let's face it, there's nothing more profitable, as I

00:47:32
think Callie explains and Bobby, there's nothing more profitable

00:47:35
to pharma than a sick child who's going to need some kind of

00:47:38
medication for life, right? And vaccines can do that.

00:47:42
If you harm an innate immune system early on and a kid has an

00:47:46
allergy or a kid has asthma or a kid has 80 or a kid has autism

00:47:49
or a kid has eczema, you can have clients for life.

00:47:53
And so there's a lot of, there's a lot to be exposed.

00:47:57
And I do believe that this new administration has a real chance

00:48:01
at exposing the truth. And then people are smart.

00:48:05
People are smart when they're given truthful information.

00:48:08
Most people are going to choose the right thing.

00:48:10
And so we have to restore transparency and choice.

00:48:13
And that's what Children's Health Defense has been

00:48:15
advocating for since the beginning.

00:48:17
And that's that's what it's all about.

00:48:19
It's not about telling people what to do.

00:48:20
It's not about taking people's vaccines away.

00:48:23
It's about telling people the truth and letting people make

00:48:26
their own decisions. Yeah, yeah.

00:48:28
And and that's really, and I think that's so important.

00:48:30
You know, at our end, one of the things that we see over and over

00:48:33
again that's for me is always concerning is that independent

00:48:37
media does an amazing job of exposing the truth.

00:48:40
But a lot of times we immediately get suppressed.

00:48:44
So you're looking at with the focus for the CHD education and

00:48:48
public awareness, how important do you think independent media

00:48:52
is for you guys getting out the real information?

00:48:55
You know, where do you see that the future of independent media?

00:48:57
Because, you know, Elon Musk has been, you know, very vocal on X

00:49:00
about we are the media now talking about the people on X

00:49:03
and how they're transmitting messages.

00:49:05
But there's still even suppression over there.

00:49:07
You can see it. People are finding out they're

00:49:09
still labels on their accounts. Whether that's leftover code or

00:49:13
whether that's got anything to do with the new administration

00:49:15
in in XI, have no idea. But how important do you see

00:49:18
independent media in what the CHD is going to be doing under

00:49:22
this administration and the future for the CHD?

00:49:25
Oh, I think independent media is critical.

00:49:27
And we partnered in one of our lawsuits that's still pending.

00:49:30
We've been waiting for over a year for decision.

00:49:33
It's a case called. We've been fighting against the

00:49:36
trusted news initiative with other independent media like

00:49:39
Gateway Pundit and like The Truth About Cancer and many

00:49:42
other partners. And you know, we do believe that

00:49:46
The Maine media was involved in a conspiracy that violates

00:49:51
antitrust laws. They together, the Washington

00:49:54
Post, the Los Angeles Times, the BBC, The Associated Press, they

00:49:59
have been colluding explicitly, overtly to suppress independent

00:50:03
voices, not just because they say that what we say isn't true,

00:50:07
which is wrong. It's because we're stealing

00:50:09
their lunch and Lance when it because people believe us more

00:50:13
than they believe them. When pharmaceutical advertising

00:50:16
comes out of mainstream media because it can buy government

00:50:20
executive order by presidential executive order, then mainstream

00:50:24
media really falls apart because it's been purveying lies to

00:50:28
great extent, certainly about COVID, certainly about the

00:50:31
medical situation generally in this country.

00:50:34
And so then I do believe that the independent media becomes

00:50:37
the mainstream media with all the hazards that that brings.

00:50:40
But I do believe that once the playing field is more even, when

00:50:44
free speech really is required, when these violations of the 1st

00:50:48
Amendment are prosecuted or their damages have to be paid by

00:50:52
Meta 2, CHD, and so many of the other groups that are

00:50:55
suppressed, once that happens, the whole landscape of news and

00:51:00
information changes. Yeah, and, and I think that's

00:51:04
extremely accurate. It's what we need to see at this

00:51:07
point. You know, and I and I do know

00:51:08
this behind the scenes because we've spent a lot of time on

00:51:10
social media and you and you can feel the anger about a lot of

00:51:15
this. You know, we've had some people

00:51:16
on the show that were vaccine injured and they're they're

00:51:18
frustrated about the medical system.

00:51:20
They can't get the relief they need.

00:51:21
They can't they can't bring a lawsuit, you know, to because

00:51:25
the the these industries are so protected.

00:51:28
And I think it's, I think they're, I think in general, I

00:51:30
think the American public is really frustrated at this point.

00:51:33
And it's, and it's kind of welling up inside because we see

00:51:35
the anger because we're in private chat rooms and the rest

00:51:38
of it, we don't initially engage.

00:51:39
A lot of times we just watch because we're looking for new

00:51:41
stories and new information. But you can feel the, the, the

00:51:45
welling up inside of how frustrated they are.

00:51:48
You know, even just recently the, the border invasion and

00:51:51
what they've done for taking health care and giving it to

00:51:54
these illegal immigrants, not allowing veterans to get in

00:51:57
there that really need the health care people that serve

00:51:59
the country. And they just can't get the

00:52:00
health care they need because these the VA is so overwhelmed

00:52:04
with these illegal immigrants lined up from morning to night

00:52:07
to get free services. So it's a frustrating thing.

00:52:10
What do you think? You know, what do you think your

00:52:12
vision is? If you could have a perfect

00:52:14
storm for the CHD in the future, what would you like this over

00:52:18
the next 24 months, once the inauguration is complete?

00:52:22
What do you hope with that administration?

00:52:25
What the future holds for CHD? If you could get everything you

00:52:28
want, you know, list it out, give me the bullet points.

00:52:30
If you could just have like the Holy Grail of Las Vegas wins

00:52:34
right now, what are the top, You know, four or five things you'd

00:52:36
love to see the CHD accomplish here?

00:52:39
In the next short term. Who?

00:52:41
I'll chill, goes out defensively.

00:52:43
What? What George?

00:52:44
No, he said. No Children's Health defense.

00:52:46
Yeah, yeah. CHD.

00:52:48
Yeah, no word. I've been abbreviating it for

00:52:50
the audience. Because no worries.

00:52:51
Yeah, You know, so I want to come back to transparency and

00:52:55
choice. If we could have everything we

00:52:57
wanted, we have. We want a really truthful

00:52:58
information about not only vaccines at the FDA and the CDC

00:53:04
and NIH and studies that are meaningful about how to overcome

00:53:08
vaccine injury to deal with the reality that millions of

00:53:11
Americans are dealing with from NIH.

00:53:12
But also truth about fluoride, truth about glyphosate, actually

00:53:16
getting rid of some of these chemicals that that most other

00:53:19
countries outlaw in Europe that we have, you know, 80 chemicals

00:53:22
that are outlawed in Europe in our food supply, including the

00:53:25
dyes and things like that. So I think we want to actually

00:53:28
have this transparency. And then on the vaccine issue,

00:53:32
you know, because of the liability protection, because of

00:53:34
the advertising, because of the lobbying, they just want to add

00:53:37
more and more shots to these kids schedules.

00:53:40
Right now there's over 70 shots for a kid that are recommended

00:53:44
by the federal government from birth to age 70.

00:53:46
Right now, there are four shots that are recommended for

00:53:48
pregnant women. They have no idea what the

00:53:50
cumulative effect of this is, although the science that we've

00:53:53
done shows that this harms health, profoundly harms health.

00:53:57
So we've got to have exempt, at a minimum, we've got to have

00:54:01
exemption rights in every state in the country for philosophical

00:54:05
or religious grounds. We don't have that right now.

00:54:07
It's only 45 States and we have to have real medical exemptions.

00:54:11
One of the horrific things that's happened in recent years

00:54:14
is they they've been strangling doctors from being able to write

00:54:18
medical exemptions for people that need them, both adults and

00:54:21
children. Medical exemptions are real.

00:54:23
People are not all the same. Another thing that we've been

00:54:25
fighting for children is sort of what are called minor, minor

00:54:30
consent laws. They're trying to allow children

00:54:33
to make profound medical decisions about vaccines, about

00:54:37
surgery, about gender related care.

00:54:40
No child should be making medical decisions without the

00:54:44
guidance of their parents or their guardians.

00:54:46
So we absolutely have successfully fought that in some

00:54:49
States and we're going to continue to fight that.

00:54:51
Children need their parents to sign off on major medical

00:54:55
decisions that could cost them injuries or, or their life.

00:55:00
What else do we want? I mean, I think we, we want

00:55:03
accountability, as you said, we need to have, we need to have

00:55:07
real compensation for the families that have been harmed

00:55:10
by these lies and by this liability protection for the

00:55:13
last 4550 years. We need to have real programs.

00:55:16
There's millions of young adults now who when their parents dies,

00:55:21
it's not clear what's going to happen to them.

00:55:24
And I know that this administration under Bobby

00:55:26
Kennedy cares about that, understands that we're going to

00:55:28
need a really serious medical kind of perspective on that.

00:55:33
And there are so many other issues, but those are sort of

00:55:36
and, and just I think when we give people choice, when we give

00:55:38
people truthful information, they will make good choices.

00:55:41
And we will suddenly see this epidemic of chronic disease

00:55:45
plummet. We will see that.

00:55:47
And that's just something that will be so thrilling that we can

00:55:50
restore our country to help, that we can make America healthy

00:55:53
again. I love your vision of what you

00:55:57
have in mind. Go ahead, George.

00:55:58
We always talk about the vaccine, but I hope they go

00:56:01
after the makers of Remdesimir, which we call it run, Run death

00:56:05
is. Near death is near.

00:56:06
Yeah. I mean, so Bobby wrote about

00:56:08
this in the Real Anthony Fauci. We actually do have a case right

00:56:11
now that we're petitioning the US Supreme Court about the use

00:56:14
of remdesivir against the instructions of the patient and

00:56:18
the of the patient's physician. So yes.

00:56:20
And I don't know if people have seen a phenomenal film that's

00:56:23
for free on our website, childrenshealthdefense.org, Vax

00:56:26
3. And it really looks at what

00:56:28
happened in the hospitals, including the use of remdesivir.

00:56:31
You know, the hospitals were financially incentivized to give

00:56:34
people remdesivir, put people on ventilators and people die.

00:56:37
Well, Lance, what's a guy's name?

00:56:39
He's a biologist or scientist. He he reverse engineered it and

00:56:44
he found cyanide in it and, and fluoride in it.

00:56:47
So, you know, when Floyd, when you inject into the bloodstream,

00:56:50
that's a like a killer right there.

00:56:52
Well, one of the guys had actually analyzed, he's overseas

00:56:55
and he's analyzed all the vaccines, gotten hold of all

00:56:58
different sorts of batches and he's found benzene sheeting and

00:57:01
all sorts of horrendous things in the vaccines.

00:57:04
We had it on the show. I'm sure that's one of the

00:57:06
reasons we probably got struck so hard over YouTube.

00:57:09
But they never like the the truth coming out when it comes

00:57:11
to this. But I think your vision is spot

00:57:13
on. And I'm excited about the

00:57:15
administration. Hopefully they will give you

00:57:17
everything that you want and more because I think this is

00:57:20
such an important issue. The children, what's happening

00:57:23
to them, You know, we were talking about it last night.

00:57:26
It's incredible how much their health is declined.

00:57:28
I was joking around that, you know, it's going to, it's going

00:57:31
to come out soon. They're going to give a kid APS

00:57:33
5 and a shot of Ozempic, you know, as a combination package.

00:57:37
I mean, now you've got that company overseas that they want

00:57:40
government funding, which would make them the most profitable

00:57:44
medical company in the world because they want the access to

00:57:47
obesity for Ozempic and for childhood obesity.

00:57:50
But they don't want to address the hormonal issues that, you

00:57:53
know, with this estrogen rich environment that's been created

00:57:55
by our food and the plastics and everything else else.

00:57:59
It's it's really frightening. The more you know, you just, you

00:58:01
feel like you're a harbinger of doom and gloom, which is tough.

00:58:04
Listen, Mary, so I don't want to keep you too long.

00:58:06
Just let's go ahead and tell them where to find you on social

00:58:10
media, how they can help Children's Health defense fund.

00:58:13
You guys are A5O1C3. So how do they participate?

00:58:16
And anything else you want to share, go for it.

00:58:18
George is going to put the website up and he'll have it

00:58:19
right there. Please come and visit our

00:58:22
website, childrenshealthdefense.org.

00:58:24
You can sign up for our free newsletter, The Defender.

00:58:27
It'll come to your inbox every everyday for free.

00:58:29
It'll keep you up to speed. We have a community forum so

00:58:32
that you can ask questions, you can make friends, you can sort

00:58:35
of really learn more about these issues.

00:58:37
CHDTV streams live every morning at 10:00 AM Monday through

00:58:41
Sunday. Amazing content.

00:58:44
We publish books that's up there right now and we need money to

00:58:48
do what we do. We also have chapters that you

00:58:50
can join and we're in many States and and you can join this

00:58:53
community forum and we have discussed sections on Defender

00:58:57
and CHDTV. So we're, we're community, we

00:59:00
also working very hard on electromagnetic radiation.

00:59:03
There's that 5G symbol right there.

00:59:05
We, we are very concerned about electromagnetic radiation, what

00:59:08
it's doing to children in particular, but that this is

00:59:11
largely unregulated. And similarly, it's very

00:59:14
industry oriented and the industry gets away with pretty

00:59:17
much what they want overriding the needs of, of safety for, for

00:59:21
individuals. So we're doing a lot of

00:59:22
different things. It's exciting.

00:59:24
We've, we're in an environment we've never been in before where

00:59:28
we believe we have similarly minded people in the government.

00:59:32
And so please join us. It's exciting.

00:59:34
We need your support, we need your engagement and we look

00:59:39
forward to a really beautiful time when children are getting

00:59:43
healthier. I love that.

00:59:45
And where do they find you on social media?

00:59:46
I followed you, but can you give me your social media handles?

00:59:49
I don't know where else. Yeah, I'm just on X personally,

00:59:53
but we Children's Health defense is, you know, Children's Health.

00:59:58
We're on social media. You can find us.

00:59:59
We've got a couple and we're all over social media, all over D

01:00:02
platform from Instagram and Facebook.

01:00:03
We'll see if that gets turned around.

01:00:06
Mark Zuckerberg, but I'm on exit.

01:00:08
Mary Holland, NYC. Listen, Mary, I got to just tell

01:00:12
you, I really appreciate the audience, love the information

01:00:14
you provided. Get out there, head over to the

01:00:16
website, sign up, go watch the Children's Health Defense TV.

01:00:20
Check it out, Mary Holland. We appreciate the time you gave

01:00:23
us. Time to stick around for a

01:00:24
minute. I want to talk to you backstage

01:00:25
after we get done, George. Anything else on the way out the

01:00:29
door, brother? Who do we have tomorrow night?

01:00:31
Is it? Did they actually switch?

01:00:33
Yeah, let me. They were actually good to go.

01:00:34
Hang on a minute. This was our early switch.

01:00:36
I'll give it to you. I just want to make sure I.

01:00:38
Russell. Yes, it's, and this is really

01:00:42
interesting. His name is Russell Working.

01:00:44
He's the author of a new book that's taking off called The

01:00:47
Insurrectionist, which is kind of a satire type take off on J6

01:00:53
and it's blowing up. He's selling just thousands of

01:00:57
copies. It's really taken off in the

01:00:59
last couple of weeks. I think the J Sixers are getting

01:01:01
behind it and their families. It really paints a picture of

01:01:04
what the J6 committee didn't do right, what they've done

01:01:08
illegally. So you're going to want to hear

01:01:09
what he's about to say. Interesting guy, so stay tuned

01:01:13
for that. And of course, I'm working on a

01:01:15
big interview for Friday. I don't have it locked in yet.

01:01:18
As soon as I get it locked in, I'll tell you guys.

01:01:20
But it's a good one. You're going to want to hear it.

01:01:21
It's a big one. All right, listen, Mary, stick

01:01:23
around for a minute, George. Last words on the way out the

01:01:26
door to our audience. Sure.

01:01:27
Hopefully Robert Kennedy's been watching our last most of our

01:01:30
interviews on all the health professionals and that have been

01:01:33
coming on. Maybe we'll get them on.

01:01:34
You know, you're always welcome, Sir.

01:01:37
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01:03:53
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01:03:56
The Wanted man is Joseph Kony, charged with abducting huge

01:04:00
numbers of children, forcing them to kill and mutilate

01:04:03
innocent victims. Somebody had to pay the price.

01:04:06
Sam did that. Sam Childers never stopped

01:04:09
because. The bad things never stop.

01:04:12
There is only. One Sam, children.

01:04:14
There is no one else like him in the world.

01:04:16
And I said to him, I said, would you go now to get Kony in the

01:04:21
Congo? He says, without a doubt, in a

01:04:22
second. Now it's the DRC.

01:04:24
Tell us what's happening to children in the DRC.

01:04:26
Do you have ISIS there? You have Islamic State and you

01:04:30
have ADF? Hey, Sandy.

01:04:31
Joseph Kony's still alive. He's in the Congo, and now God

01:04:34
has me in the Congo, you know, So hopefully we'll meet up one

01:04:38
day, but maybe I can lead him to the Lord or send him there.

01:04:43
One or the other, huh?