Book of Secrets - Congress Investigates the Deep State w/ Kent Heckenlively |EP956

[00:00:00] All men are created equal, but they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. By Liberty and the Beauty of God. If Liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

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[00:05:07] And don't forget to ask that free book on The Big Ming Show sent you. Lance, before we go, I think I bring something up because we got guests for the next two days. So Elon Omar did an interview, right? And the interviewer asked the question, did you marry your brother? Her response was not to my knowledge. Not to your knowledge. Not no. Not to your knowledge. What does that mean, not to your knowledge?

[00:05:32] That means, in my book, it means she probably, she did, but she's trying to, you know, plausible deniability. Somehow she's going to come up with some excuse. Not to my knowledge. Yeah, I don't know how you have an excuse about that. It's pretty simple. That's a yes or no. But of course, that's what they do. The deep-staked actors in D.C. that are congressional members. The waffling. The unsure answers. Of course, the speech and debate clause.

[00:06:00] I'm surprised she didn't do that within the halls of Congress because a speech and debate clause gives them a legitimate way to lie. And people think that we're in the halls of Congress. And of course, oh, this is my Congress member. Whatever he says up here, I'm sure it's true. Nope. Just look up the speech and debate clause. You'll understand it might be one of the real true mistakes within the Constitution. I'm not sure. To my knowledge. All right. Let's talk about our guest today. We've got a great guest.

[00:06:27] He's just written a book called The Book of Secrets. And of course, it's really interesting. To me, it's Congress investigating the deep state. But it's really unbelievable when you look at what the contents of this book is. Of course, Congress is trying to find the truth about the deep state. And of course, he goes inside the House Task Force investigating JFK, MKUltra, Epstein, UFOs, and other topics. So Kent Heckin-Lively joins us today. But don't let that name fool you.

[00:06:57] He's an Italian. His mom was Sicilian. So I'm sure I know what that means. He had the slipper thrown at him. He might have had the vinyl furniture coverings. He's like our friend Mike Schwartz. He's Italian, too, he says. Yeah. So he's an attorney, a science teacher, and a two-time New York Times bestselling author. Of course, with the suppression, that's shocking in itself. He's best known as co-author of the Plague series, Plague, Plague of Corruption, Ending Plague.

[00:07:25] Judy Mikevitz, who's a friend of ours, and she's been on the show. We love Judy. He did that with her. And of course, Dr. Francis Ruschetti. Plague of Corruption reached number two on the New York Times bestseller list in June of 2020. And listen to this number. Has sold more than 200,000 copies. It's being turned into a documentary narrated by Liam Neeson. I love Liam. And of course, he has more than 750,000 books in print translated into 10 different languages.

[00:07:52] He also hosts the podcast Twice as Lively with Kent Hicken Lively on YouTube and podcast platforms. All right, George, no reason to leave him back there. Let's get him in here. Welcome to the show, Kent. Happy birthday. Thanks a lot for having me, Lance. So I thought I'd start out, since you gave me that introduction with a story about my Sicilian mother. When I was in my 20s, she was watching Oprah one day. And Oprah did this show about children who have questions about their parents.

[00:08:21] And so she calls me up and she says, now, Kent, I have to know, you know, I've tried to be open with everything. But are there any questions that you as an adult child have about me as your mother? And I said, mom, you've never had a single unexpressed thought. So no, I have no questions.

[00:08:42] And so it's one of the things that whenever I run across women who are repressed, I'm like, okay, this is not my experience. My experience is women share every damn thought on their mind. And that's actually great. And so I like to be open about things. No thought unexpressed. And I think that that's something that's great.

[00:09:09] But I'll have you know that when it came time to choose my life partner, I did not go Italian. I went Canadian. Because sometimes a little bit of repression is a good thing. Yeah. Well, congratulations on that. You know, of course, not that they're dissing Italian women, but they're usually very strong women. They can be very opinionated and somewhat controlling in certain areas of their life. You know, it's interesting when you grow up as an Italian or Italian neighborhoods.

[00:09:40] And I grew up in an Italian and Jewish neighborhood. So I had both. And I found out later on, much later, about 15 years ago, that my mom was also Jewish. And I had no idea that her DNA came back with that. So I got a little bit maybe the best of both worlds. But it's a great way to grow up. Let's face it. You know, Italian, you know, homes are very loving. A lot of nurturing. Of course, also a lot of strong opinions. My mom still has very strong opinions.

[00:10:08] I don't think she believes in the deep state. But I got to ask you this. As a guy that's been exposing the truth, and I want the audience to hear what we were discussing backstage, because they know about this show. They know about the suppression. I think we still are suffering consequences of the prior algorithms at Twitter, because there's still suppression on our accounts. It seems like the people that got back their suspended accounts are still struggling with that. I don't know why they can't fix it. I don't know if they want to fix it.

[00:10:34] But you must have had just absolutely all kinds of attacks. Maybe share with the audience first, what made you decide to go into this vertical of writing, knowing that you were opening up the door? Because George and I have said it many times. Sometimes we should have maybe thought about doing true crime instead of what we do, which is exposing the truth. That first. And then secondarily, maybe explain some of the suppression attacks, the things that have happened to you.

[00:11:00] Yeah, so I really come at this from the health freedom world. I have a vaccine-injured daughter who's 28 years old. I was able to rescue my son from autism, but I've not been able to rescue my daughter yet. So that got me into the autism world. And I think when you see one incredible series of lies, it opens your eyes to the other lies. So you'd mentioned my work with Dr. Judy Mikevitz.

[00:11:29] And so what happened is that we wrote a very successful series of books. And then in 2020, when our book Plague of Corruption really took off, that was my third book. No, actually, fourth book. But she got a social media manager. And relatively quickly, they ran into some issues, and they brought me into Troubleshoot.

[00:11:54] And the social media guy had said to me, after we finished figuring out the problem, he said, hey, Ken, I understand you're really the writer, and I've got an interesting story. And I go, oh, okay, who are you? And he goes, well, I'm the Google engineer who stole 900 documents from Google and was on Project Veritas. And I'm like, you're that guy? So that got me into writing four books with Project Veritas whistleblowers.

[00:12:24] And I think that the thing that I see is that deception is always the same. And I've done maybe 12 or 13 whistleblower stories. And it's always the same. It's good people who believe in the values of the organization. They see something that's wrong. They usually try to solve it internally. They get blocked. And then the machine comes after them.

[00:12:50] And so as somebody who has covered this, yeah, I've gotten a lot of attacks. I mentioned previously in 2017 to 2020, I was banned from speaking in the country of Australia, even though I have no criminal record, because I wrote a book called Inoculated about how the CDC looked at the question of whether the MMR vaccine was causing autism

[00:13:17] and found that it was, especially in a cohort of African-American males. And so I was banned from the nation of Australia, denounced in their parliament. In 2020, when Plague of Corruption really hit, we had Chuck Todd come after us for five straight minutes

[00:13:41] in his May 17th, 2020 show, going after not only the book, but Judy had done a 26-minute video with Mickey Willis. And so you had Chuck Todd talking about the creation of a conspiracy theory. And he had a guy on from the Stanford Research Institute who was talking about this book and video. And, you know, the only book and video that was causing trouble at that time in the world was ours.

[00:14:10] And then in August of 2020, the book Judy and I wrote about masks was banned by Amazon. And then in 2024, it was revealed in a House Judiciary Committee meeting that the Biden administration had tried to get 43 books banned or shadow banned by Amazon. Three of my books were on that list. And so I've dealt with that.

[00:14:40] Recently, I'm curious to hear you talk about X because I do my show, Twice as Lively with Ken Hecken Lively. And occasionally, I'll put on a boost for a show that I think is going to do really well. And the last three boosts I've purchased have been paused after about five views. So I don't think I'm saying anything in those broadcasts, which is wrong.

[00:15:06] And, you know, I thought Twitter was now clear of those things, but apparently not. Interesting. Lance, I want to ask him something real quick. Yes, please. Go ahead. Because you talked about autism. Your son has autism? Daughter. Your daughter has autism. I thought you said your son had autism. He was developing it. And we intervened with the gluten casein-free diet. And after 12 days of being mute, he said his first word again.

[00:15:34] And normal development resumed. Cool. That's okay. Great. That's awesome. You see when Kennedy and Trump came out and they're talking about autism and the use of, it's the brand name, I think, is Lure Kavorin, which is also known as fallinic acid. People with autism are supposed to help reverse it. Yeah, we've been working. We've been using that on my daughter for about the past four or five months. It works for some, but not for others. Is it helping at all? Just curious.

[00:16:03] I don't think so. I think it may help with about 50% to 60% of the kids. But we're in that 30% to 40% that it really doesn't seem to be doing much. And before the vaccine, Kent, she didn't have any issues? She didn't have autism? No, she didn't. But I really have to say that it was, we think that it was her six-month vaccinations,

[00:16:30] which set her on this path of both seizures and autism. And, but we were first-time parents and we really didn't, you know, have experience with kids. And, you know, six-month-old is kind of undefined. But what really happened or really opened my eyes was I took our son to his 18-month checkup. Checkup.

[00:16:52] And because I thought the doctor missed something at my daughter's six-month checkup, he went through a full developmental workup, was saying 15 to 20 words, looking appropriately. And so I'm not even thinking about the shots. And he gets his shots. And two days later, my wife says, hey, honey, Ben has stopped talking. I'm like, what? And he was also starting to pound his head on the floor.

[00:17:18] And then, luckily, two or three days later, by the grace of God, I was in a bookstore and I picked up the book Unraveling the Mystery of Autism and Pervasive Developmental Disorder by Karen Cerusi. Talked about the gluten-casein-free diet. Both kids went on that diet the next day. After 12 days, my son said his first word again. And it was as if we caught him as he was falling into the abyss. It took him about a year to catch up in language.

[00:17:45] My wife is a speech therapist, so, you know, a trained observer. Took him about two years for his sensory problems to go away. But he entered kindergarten as a normally developing kid. And now he's 26 years old, living in San Diego, making a ton of money as an accountant and getting ready to get married. Wow. Yeah, it's you're with the right person, though. You mentioned Judy Mike of this. You know, obviously, she's been fighting medical tyranny for decades.

[00:18:15] She's been viciously attacked, as you are well aware of. But the knowledge base of her and her cohort, Dr. Dr. Tracy Stroup, I'm sure you know Tracy at this point. Are you familiar with her? Not really. She and Judy do a bunch of stuff together. They're close friends. But it's interesting. Judy, of course, the attacks on her. She knew about Fauci probably damn near before anybody else did.

[00:18:44] She knew him all the way back to the AIDS period. And boy, is she ever tough, huh? Judy Mike of this. That's a tough carrot right there. I mean, she's. Yeah. Well, you know, it's unfortunate because I feel that our books, what I really wanted to do is I wanted to document everything about her. Because when I met her in 2010 and she was talking about XMRV, its connection to chronic fatigue syndrome and likely connection to autism.

[00:19:12] I just thought, oh, man, she's going to get attacked like Dr. Andrew Wakefield was. And so I wanted to write her story, get it down and know that she was in for a tough road. I've seen this story before. You know, I'd been on the autism case for eight years by that time. And I just saw the unfair attacks.

[00:19:39] I mean, you know, here in California, it's like one in 31 kids has autism. And people like me and Judy who talk about these things get attacked. You know, are you kidding me? You know, what about this epidemic of harm to children?

[00:19:56] And, you know, every time they go into a pediatrician's office, you know, why are we giving shots to children that the United States Supreme Court and Congress designate as unavoidably unsafe products? You can't tell me that something is safe and effective when the Supreme Court has said they're unavoidably unsafe. And so, you know, from the beginning of my public career.

[00:20:24] Medical tyranny is alive and well is my answer because, of course, the medical industrial lobbyist complex in D.C. I've often said on this show and on other shows I've been interviewed on that congressional members should have to wear NASCAR jackets. In the case of our congressional members, they would need long flowing trench coats because of the amount of contributions they receive.

[00:20:47] And the way that that works, of course, they get they get money from whether it's Pfizer or Johnson or Johnson or Merck or anybody else in the medical world. And, of course, then they become an advocate. They bought and paid for mouthpiece, a consigliere for the medical, you know, mafia. That's what they do. Right. And they just get out there and that's the terminology. And they and they do a very good job. And, of course, the speech and debate clause, as I mentioned, protects them and everything they have to say when they're in the halls of Congress.

[00:21:16] But I think they should have to have a disclaimer. My opinion is if we get a sponsor, as you know, for your show, we have to acknowledge that a sponsor like Oasis of Hope. Now, we really, truly believe in the product. I believe in what they're doing. I don't usually take sponsorships. George and I refuse to take sponsorships from people that we haven't vetted the product, even use the products or even know plenty about the product or something else that we're offering. But that's what it is. Right. The suppression and then the confirmed. Oh, this is OK.

[00:21:45] Just like mainstream media. You've seen the narrative control. If they want to come after Kent Hacken Lively, well, then they're going to come after you with WAPO, New York Times. Now they're going to come after you with every platform. They're going to get all their social media mouthbeats talking about that you're a con and you're a sham artist and that, you know, don't believe what he is, what he's saying about the deep state. It's not true. There is no deep state. It's more conspiracy. But let me ask you this.

[00:22:14] Beyond the suppression, have you had any other attacks on you and your family? Anything else that's noticeable or that you would say this is absolutely coming from them? You know, I think maybe an IRS audit. You know, they love to do that. I think because I've seen the scam, my antenna is really out for it. A couple of years ago, I got this really interesting phone call from a guy who is a reporter for USA Today.

[00:22:44] And he said, I'm really interested in talking to you about how you're an advocate for these things and you're a public school teacher. How do you work with, you know, your outside activism and how do you bring it into the classroom? And I knew this was a frigging setup. And I said, I don't. I'm hired to teach science, not my opinions.

[00:23:14] And he's like, well, can I interview you for it? And I said, no, you may not. I do not consent to this interview. And I said, but I have to ask you before I let you go. How did you pick me? Who paid you money to call me of all the science teachers in the country? And he wouldn't answer me. And so I hung up.

[00:23:43] And so there's this funny article in USA Today that I'm sure you can find out, which is science teachers often don't have the credentials necessary to teach science. And so I'm in the first line of the article. But because I didn't give him anything, it's just a rambling article. And I'm like, who paid this guy to come after me?

[00:24:11] So and I also I also have this theory. So this is my working theory about why they're not going to attack me. When I got a lot of public coverage for being banned from Australia, the one thing that they didn't include in that article was that I wanted to talk about my book, Inoculated. And so I thought to myself, OK, by that time, I'd done three books.

[00:24:38] Now I've got 22 books published. The second, the mainstream media opens their goddamn mouth to talk about me. They're going to have to put in that I've published 22 books with a couple of them being national bestsellers. That is going to make me explode.

[00:25:01] And I have really worked very hard to be reasonable. I mean, look at me. I'm the dad next door kind of guy. It's hard to paint me as a nutcase. I'm not a drinker. I'm not a druggie. I'm not a gambler. I don't chase women. I've been married 32 years. I'm kind of freaking boring.

[00:25:27] But my thoughts are provocative. So the only thing that is really provocative about me is what I write about. But in person, I'm extremely diplomatic and I like to talk to people. And unlike a lot of people in the conspiracy space, I believe that you don't want to look too dour and pissed off all the time.

[00:25:56] So I'm a cheerful warrior. And that's my gig. So come after me. I don't consider you in the conspiracy space. I consider you in the truth teller space. The way I see you is a person that takes on the armor of God and goes out and tries to help people with the truth. They love that word conspiracy. A lot of people contend the CIA are the ones that actually coined that term during the JFK assassination and the confrontation.

[00:26:26] Is that true? I don't know. The CIA is very good at narrative control. It's what they do. They take one truth and they wrap it in a, you know, a wardrobe of lies because that's what they that's what they teach people in operational intelligence, government contracting, that the best lies are those that are intertwined with shreds of truth. You know, and the CIA, the Christians in action. We had a release for the first time by Donald Trump.

[00:26:51] I don't believe the release of the JFK assassination documents included all the documents. And there's a reason I say that. And we're going to cover some of that with you. Roger Stone, probably the Jackie Collins of Washington, D.C. He knows he knows more about everybody than you'd ever want to know. Some of it he can repeat. Some of it he can't repeat. And of course, he had an especially close relationship with Richard Nixon. He didn't just work for Richard Nixon. They were friends.

[00:27:21] Roger was the youngest person to get called in to be questioned in front of Congress on Watergate. And when it comes to the JFK documents, he saw stuff that I don't think anybody has ever seen. He can't disclose all of it because some of it was told, you know, showed him in confidence. He got access to JFK documentation by Richard Nixon that, you know, nobody else has probably ever seen or may ever seen.

[00:27:44] You came out in this CIA confrontation, which I'm kind of that's why I was asking about the attacks, because, of course, Christians in action don't like when somebody comes off the curb at them. And especially with truth. I believe this whistleblower claim was true. And I want to hear from you, your take on it. Of course, we're talking about and you guys in the audience, you might remember it wasn't that long ago.

[00:28:05] They said that the CIA had turned over a bunch of stuff and then they reclaimed 40 boxes of JFK and MK ultra files. The following day, two members of Congress went directly to the CIA quarters demanding answers. But, you know, I know for a fact that at the highest levels of the CIA, they laugh at Congress because they believe they're an agency that can do whatever they want, whenever they want. They've got black budgets.

[00:28:32] Of course, the missing funds from the Department of Defense, much of that went into the CIA. Nobody ever wants to talk about it. Tell me about this. You know, you came out, you got this whistleblower. You know, you went down into this confrontation. Kind of take me through the process here. And I want to hear your determination. Did they snatch the 40 boxes? Because, of course, the administration started to deny that that happened. Yeah. So the whistleblower you're talking about is James Erdman, the third, who was a CIA officer.

[00:29:02] And then he was sent over to work with Tulsi Gabbard at the director's initiative group. But I want to pull back a little bit to talk about Book of Secrets and what happened during the 15 months in which I was writing it.

[00:29:24] So it's based not only on congressional testimony, but probably 50 to 60 hours of private interviews with Congressman Eric Burleson. And to your point, there were several times during the writing of this book where the congressman said to me, Kent, I don't know if this book is worth writing because I don't know if we're going to get the information.

[00:29:50] And so my response to him was, Eric, you are the people's representative. Whether you get that information or not, either outcome is important for people to know. So if they shine you on, that's going to be in the book.

[00:30:15] If you actually get stuff, well, the mainstream media is going to cover it. So it needs to be in the book. Specifically to your question about those 40 boxes of documents, it was a mix of JFK assassination documents and MKUltra documents.

[00:30:37] For people who don't understand the relationship between the CIA and the director of national intelligence. So director of national intelligence is supposed to be above the CIA. So director of national intelligence said, Tulsi Gabbard had said, give us all the JFK documents. And they did that. Or suppose that they gave a whole bunch.

[00:31:02] There were these 40 boxes which had a mix of JFK and MKUltra documents in them. Very interesting. They were at some other facility and the CIA went and got them back. When Congresswoman Luna and Congressman Burleson found out about this, they hit the roof and went to Twitter and said, what the heck is going on? This is not the way it goes.

[00:31:32] The CIA is a subordinate agency to national intelligence. And it's in the book is Luna and Burleson went to the CIA to basically give them hell and say, what the heck is going on? Now, to my understanding, those boxes have now been provided.

[00:31:58] And I did an interview with Congresswoman Luna as the book was getting ready to go to print. And I asked her the specific question because I think this is what everybody wants to know. Who's in charge? Is our civilian government in charge? Or are the intelligence agencies and the bureaucracies operating as their own government?

[00:32:21] And at least what Congresswoman Luna told me is that the intelligence agencies were in charge of our country for a long time. They pulled a lot of crap on us. But because Trump has put in people who really want change, because that's been a problem with a lot of presidents. They put somebody in and they think they're good. And even Trump has made that mistake.

[00:32:49] Bill Barr as attorney general was an absolute disaster because he wanted to protect the deep state. And you can look back at his career. He's the guy who, along with CIA director at the time, George H.W. Bush, kneecapped the church commission. So Burleson and Luna and a couple other congressmen have really, and the Trump administration,

[00:33:17] they know they're fighting this entrenched deep state. But what I like to say about Trump and why I think people should give him some of the benefit of the doubt, and I might get attacked for saying that, is Trump understands that these dark entities can be killed in the dark. Because if they're not showing themselves, well, when you kill them, people don't notice.

[00:33:46] So one of the first things that Trump did was he cut off that USAID money. Lo and behold, let's look at the elections in Latin America, which the leftists are not winning, specifically looking at what's happened in Brazil. The next thing that Trump did, or most recent thing he did, was he offered a buyout of every person in the CIA. We know it's the old timers who are likely to be most corrupt.

[00:34:13] And so you get them out of there because it's not really a good life for a human being to be in the CIA. Record levels of alcoholism, drug abuse, broken marriages, all that sort of stuff. Human beings are really not designed by God to live with secrets. Human beings are designed by God to live in truth.

[00:34:36] I think what Trump is trying to do is he's trying to kill this beast in the dark so a true representative democracy can flourish in our country. You know, I'm concerned, though, if we only do it in the dark, that's the way we handle it. My concern always comes down to is that enough?

[00:35:00] Because, you know, I question the CIA, of course, even most recently that agent officer that was arrested with the gold bars and the watches, you know, the nice watch collection, which, of course, intelligence operators, special forces have always had kind of a, I don't want to say an addiction, but kind of an ideology about these watches. Part of it comes down to by having a Rolex Submariner on your wrist.

[00:35:27] It's a way to get out if you're in a foreign country, if you're an agent, you're operating. You can use that as money for evac if you're not being able to get yourself out. There's a reason they kind of have this ideology. Same thing with the special forces guys, that they have good watches on their hands. Same thing with government contractors. It's always been a process. It's always been kind of one of those things. You better do this just in case because you can cash those watches just about anywhere in the world. You need money. But look, the CIA, the corruption and theft.

[00:35:56] My question is, you know, you're president of the United States tomorrow, Kent, and you're looking at the fact that we now have released lock solid proof. There was always years and years of people challenging the JFK assassination narrative. And you know that the CIA actually participated in the assassination of a sitting president. Do you allow that agency to go on? Because, George, I'm going to throw to you before Kent answers that.

[00:36:23] You and I have talked about this so many times that we question whether or not any of these agencies are fixable. Because the ideology is so ingrained into the history and the culture that whether it's high levels or low levels, and I agree with you, it's the hardliners. It's the guys that have been there forever that have gotten brought up in the CIA culture. But the same thing is relevant and prevalent in the FBI, the DIA, the DOD.

[00:36:52] But the CIA specifically, if you knew they killed this, you know, George, you said it. You don't think these agencies are fixable, that we have to just burn to the ground and start from scratch. I know it's cost prohibitive, but what do you think? Well, I mean, all right. So you have the CIA participated in assassination of a sitting president, Kennedy. They participated in attempted overthrow of a sitting president, Trump. Then not get him elected. Then you have them participating in 9-11.

[00:37:20] So, I mean, look, they get away with one thing, they're going to keep doing it. How can you trust them to release all the files when they're not going to tell on themselves? I don't care what anybody says. They're going to hide. They're going to keep hiding stuff. Like Trump said about getting 9-11 files. Yeah, good luck with that. You might get them, but you're not going to get the true files where it shows participation from our government. Our whole government's far too gone. It needs to be disbanded. We need to start over and add a few things to it so we don't get to this point again.

[00:37:50] George, let me make it really easy for you. Because I wrote a book with a former CIA officer, Twilight of the Shadow Government. And one of the reasons I write these books is I have these same questions. And I didn't realize that in addition to the CIA, we have 16 or 17 other intelligence agencies. So if the CIA vanished tomorrow, I don't think we would notice.

[00:38:19] Because it seems to me that there's a lot of duplication of efforts in the intelligence agencies. You know, one of the really interesting things that I ran across in the book I wrote on the CIA, Twilight of the Shadow Government, with Kevin Shipp, former CIA officer turned whistleblower, is that one month after President Kennedy was assassinated,

[00:38:47] Harry Truman wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post, in which he talked about the CIA and how the CIA was creating policy, not just giving information to the president. And I have always found it very interesting that one month after Kennedy was assassinated,

[00:39:14] that the president who created the CIA is talking about how it is corrupting our government. And so listen to Harry Truman. Harry Truman, you know, 64 years ago or 63 years ago, was saying that the CIA can't be trusted.

[00:39:37] So if you told me that there was a plan to get rid of the CIA and start something new, I'd say, great, 100 percent behind it. Yeah, you can't just get rid of the CIA. You need to get rid of everything. The problem being that you're right. You know, it's one head of the snake. You know, but these operations, you know, we know that the Ocean Sea Spray, Operation Paperclip, you know, and the list goes on and on and on.

[00:40:05] We could probably sit and just have a show just about all their different nefarious operations. Have you ever read a book by John Perkins, Confessions of an Economic Hitman? I haven't read that. But one of the things I wanted to say was you'd mentioned Roger Stone. And in all of my work and everything, you know, I'm covering these crimes and these corruption.

[00:40:30] And just recently, I published a book called This Never Happened, A Call Girl in D.C., which is a fictionalized version of the Watergate scandal. And I have been wanting to get that to Roger Stone because I think he would laugh his ass off about it. Because the Watergate scandal is another thing that when I read it, it makes no sense to me. Yeah.

[00:40:59] And there's been a lot of scholarship about taking a second look at Watergate. And, you know, in my nonfiction books, I really want to stay on the side of, okay, if I'm going to say something, do I have a reference for it? If I'm having an opinion, I want it to be clearly stated as opinion.

[00:41:24] But there's a limitation that I have as a writer of nonfiction because these intelligence agencies do have some intelligent people in them who know that when they do bad shit, they shouldn't write it down. So let me come along decades later trying to figure out what's going on.

[00:41:47] And it may be simply through their mistakes that I figure out what actually went on. But I wanted to have a way to express what I think has likely happened with our government. And so take a look at my fiction. All right. That music, we got to take a short break. When we come back, we'll be here with Kent Heck and Lively. We'll be covering lots of other topics. Yes, burn bags, commercial shredders. Yeah, our government loves those. All right. Stay tuned.

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[00:45:25] Here with your hosts, Lance Migliaccio, George Balentine, and our special guest, lawyer, book author. He's a man of many talents. Kent. And we're not talking about Superman, Kent. Could be, though. We don't know. It's signed behind him. Says he might be. Heckin' lively. You know, I was watching the chat, and they were loving your signs back there. Your two signs about the math. Okay, so I've got it. Is this your podcast studio? And your podcast studio? Is that correct? Exactly. Exactly.

[00:45:54] Okay. So one says, I'm not saying I'm Batman, but we haven't been seen in the same room together. One of them says, the 10 things that require no talent, like showing up and being enthusiastic and curious. And the other one says, four out of three people struggle with math. Yeah, exactly. It is. Well, listen, you know, before the break, you were talking about, you know, the fact

[00:46:20] that they may or may not provide the information that these operations are pretty sophisticated. I'm sure you've struggled to get information at times. So the 40 boxes, unequivocally, that was something that occurred. You've kind of confirmed that at this point. Yes. You know, the administration kind of waffled on it. They didn't want to paint the CIA in the light. But the truth of the matter, the public already feels like that. When they hear about the burn bags, of course, the U.S. government is one of the largest buyers

[00:46:48] of commercial crosscut shredders in the world. You know, my thing is, even when they're told to release this information, don't you think these agencies operate so independently that they kind of just laugh at what the president wants and they laugh about Congress? Not that they're not concerned about exposure, but they feel like their operation is so beyond any oversight.

[00:47:10] One of the things I wanted to do with this book is detail how frustrated Congress is with that exact question. And so in my 50 to 60 hours of interviews with Congressman Burleson, with Congresswoman Luna,

[00:47:37] with Congressman Tim Burchette, they say things which are beyond claims that I have made. And so I think the value of a book like this is to say, what are the people who are representing us saying about this? It's not that you and me are sitting here saying, you know, Congress is being lied to. So that's one level of thing.

[00:48:06] And you, Lance, seem to have a great deal of knowledge about government operations. And with all the books that I've written, I should have a pretty good source of knowledge. But when you hear sitting representatives saying the same kinds of things that we do, that means something. And I also think that that puts a great deal of pressure on the deep state. The more we keep looking at the deep state, the more we tell the deep state we don't believe

[00:48:36] their lies. We point out the things that they have said, which are not true. And this has been a great benefit of the task force is so many documents have come out, which put the lie, which illuminate the lie. I mean, in the UFOs field. Here's what's been so interesting to me. And I've seen so few outlets talk about it.

[00:49:02] There are documents from the 40s and 50s where our leading scientists and our leading intelligence agencies are looking at UFOs and saying, we don't know what is there, but this is real. Well, at that same time, we know that they were saying that it was swamp gas and the planet Venus. We know that's a lie.

[00:49:26] And so the question is, what has been going on for 70 to 80 years in this investigation? Are we supposed to believe that in the 40s and 50s, they didn't know what the heck was going on? And they sat on their butts for all those decades. No, I don't. The thing that hasn't been revealed from the UFO files and which the congressmen are saying,

[00:49:55] yeah, it's the dog that isn't barking is now that we know that you were saying that this is a real phenomenon in the 40s and 50s, what have you been doing in the ensuing decades? That's the great question, which I hope the task force will take up in the next Congress, but only if Republicans win the midterms because the Democrats, strangely, even though

[00:50:21] the Democrats have carried the torch on these questions for decades, I don't know what's happened to today's crop of Democrats. But I think that if the Democrats take the House of Representatives, they will kill the task force. Transparency will die in the next Congress if Democrats take charge and they're the kind of Democrats that they've been in the past couple of years. You know, you touch on an interesting subject, of course, UFOs and UAPs.

[00:50:52] They contend, of course, that it's a national security interest. They want to recover these vehicles. They want to reverse engineer the technology. We think there's been some leaps in our own defense department that aren't possible without this. Now, maybe with AI, that'll change. But of course, there are lots of experts out there. We've covered a lot of this on our show at different times, even cryptids. You have to question the truth of what cryptids are actually real and which ones aren't. Some of them say those are failed alien experiments where these animals or beasts or whatever you

[00:51:21] want to call them, or these biologics have gotten loose. But UFO and UAPs definitely exist. There's been some massive jumps in our own military industrial complex that probably came from reverse engineered advanced technology. And as of late, there's been so many questions about reptilians, the Anunnaki, the grays, even that event down on the Miami Mall that nobody seems to want to be clear on. The biggest turnout of law enforcement ever.

[00:51:51] I don't know if you're familiar with what happened down there. Some videos have circulated. But, you know, the government believes that they have a right, even though they're elected, sometimes installed, well, many times installed, as officials, that somehow their daddy and mommy government, you know, that they have to filter what can be said to us and what can't be said to us. Somehow we can't handle the truth. But there's going to be, you know, upheaval if we actually acknowledge that there is such a thing as a reptilian. I don't know if there is.

[00:52:21] I don't know what to believe anymore. It's concerning to me because, again, I don't trust the government. I've seen it on the other side of this. I know that they don't tell the truth about their spread of democracy or anything else. And I find the situation questionable at best. But, you know, look, let's talk about, you know, we know the UFOs and UAP situation is not being told to the American public truthfully. Is it really because they're trying to protect us? I think not.

[00:52:47] And when it comes to congressional members, when it comes to the Democrats at a minimum, and probably both sides of the aisle in many ways, you know, they've gotten so used to the grift, right? They love the steel. 14 magic money computers that weren't on the Treasury system where I could go just go in and say, Kent Heckenlively, $1 billion for research, you know, with no oversight. USAID, you know, you mentioned Donald Trump going after the deep state in the dark.

[00:53:14] But that's a problem because you have people that stole money from USAID. You have people that got money from USAID. We talk about Chelsea Clinton quite often on the show, $84 million for providing little or no service to the U.S. government. How about George Soros, 64 NGOs funneling money back to open society, but those 64 NGOs all received money from USAID. I think the clawbacks have to happen. And I think I'm going to go a step further, and this may not be popular. It sounds extreme.

[00:53:41] I think public execution is necessary because I think if you do get somebody in the dark or if you offer somebody at the CIA a buyout, what happens when they don't? And Todd Blanche has been very clear about this behind the scenes that he's not going to go after the Russian collusion hoax people. He's not going to go after the dirty 51 plus 8. Where does that mean? He's told people within the... They have the grand jury impaled in Southern Florida on all that. Yeah.

[00:54:09] Todd Blanche has made it very clear that the dirty 51 plus 8 and the Russian collusion hoax, to people that we know, George, and they've asked me not to say anything, and we know many people that should get some relief from that. People like Roger Stone and Mike Flynn, as an example, have told me that he's been very vocal about that he's not going to spend his time on that. Now, what does that mean for that impaneled grand jury in Florida? I don't know. What I would tell you is they've been in there for over two years.

[00:54:38] I expected, and I really, listen, I love Donald Trump. I think he's done a lot of great things for this country. And I can't imagine if Harris had gotten where we would be right now. We might, the three of us might be sitting in jail as an example. Who knows? But don't you wonder if they'll hide something about UFOs and UAPs like they have for decades? What about when we get to things like the Epstein files? How do we trust this government or any government to do the right thing?

[00:55:05] Because the Epstein subpoenas, you know, Representative Burleson alleged that the Clintons delayed their subpoenas for six months. I think they did. He also questions why the FBI never interviewed the aide who reportedly signed Epstein into the White House 17 separate times. You know, and then we've got all the people that have vast amounts of money. The billionaire access to the White House has never stopped. I believe that, you know, the reason Bill Gates got divorced was all over Epstein, more than even his wife said.

[00:55:34] Allegedly, I think he went there 26 or 27 times. If we can't get, you know, transparency on UFOs and UAPs and grays and reptilians or whatever is or isn't true, then how can we ever expect any truth on things like Epstein? Well, here's what I'd say. I'd say that it's not the system is not quite as strong as they want you to believe it is.

[00:56:02] And so the question is, how do you go after it most effectively? I think you go after it asking questions. And then when the answers come back and they're so friggin' stupid, you poke fun at it. I think humor is one of the ways to bring down the deep state. Now, one of the things that's been really interesting to me is I do these investigations, not knowing what I'm going to find.

[00:56:30] But there's a part of me that is hoping that when I do these investigations, I'm going to be reassured that things are better than I think they are. But it's often the opposite happens to me. You know, I've had conversations with Burleson where I'm talking about who are the real bad guys in this? Who should be gone after?

[00:56:57] And it's terrifying to me when a congressman says, well, I know the names of the people who I'm told are the really bad guys. But if I go after them, I'm likely to end up dead. Now, when I hear that from a sitting United States congressman, I say, how do we fight that evil?

[00:57:19] And I am troubled by that, that our representatives are also fearful of what we've been talking about. And the only thing I can say is there are more of us than there are of them. So anybody who is around this, who can start the avalanche wherever you are, start the avalanche,

[00:57:49] because it is not as stable a system as they want you to believe. And part of the thing that is really upsetting me as we head into this election cycle is I think to myself, the thing the bad guys want us to do is to get tired of this investigation and just say, it's all screwed up. There's nothing anybody is going to be able to do.

[00:58:18] And if people do that, if they lose interest, for example, in looking at what the task force is uncovering, then the bad guys will win. What we need to do is we need to stay in this fight because I think we have moved the ball down the field. I think we're close to a scoring position. And the only thing that's going to stop us if we go, oh, no, they're winning.

[00:58:47] I don't think they're winning. I think we are winning and we just need to keep up the pressure. Yeah, and I don't disagree with that. That's why George and I decided to do this show. George, you said many times that you felt like, you know, because, of course, these shows can be thankless. You know that. It's hard to monetize them. It's hard to find the sponsors. If you were left-leaning, if we were, and we've been offered money that would try to turn us into a left-leaning podcast

[00:59:16] from an agency out of Chicago. You might even know the one. Maybe they even approached you. When you're over the target, they'll try to buy you off. And then you get a list of what you can and cannot talk about. We opted not to do that, even though it was an excessively large amount of money, especially at the stage of our show two and a half years ago when it happened or two years ago. George, I mean, your thoughts. We talk about this that you have to be out there telling the truth. Hopefully, you're going to unify the country. We talk about educating and unifying the country one episode at a time. Because, of course, I agree with you. There's over 300-plus million of us.

[00:59:45] We don't know how many illegals are beyond that. You know, Greg Bovino contends there's 110 million to 20 million illegal immigrants in the country. The administration talks about the number of 30 or 40 million. What's true? I don't know. George, what are your thoughts? I mean, you know, I don't see honesty. And I think fear is a powerful tool. The reason I don't want to see Donald Trump go after them in the dark,

[01:00:10] the reason I want to see public executions for treasons, seditious conspiracy, and others. And that might be an extreme view probably from my background. I'm probably the darker of the three of us. George has a better view. I probably have this internal boiling anger constantly because I see things. And when you do this job, it's thankless a lot of times. It's not thankless that the audience doesn't appreciate it, at least the audience you have. But it's one of those things where you sometimes have to be careful that you haven't looked at so much social media

[01:00:38] that you have this dark influence over you. You have to do it with tongue-in-cheek. We use a lot of sarcasm. So, George, what are your thoughts on this? Well, most people can't handle the truth. You look at over half the country. If Trump just says something, and you could be joking around, over half the country takes it out of context. They can't handle it. Could you imagine him coming out saying, oh, yeah, there are UFOs and there's aliens now on the earth with us, and there is one of them. Can you imagine what would happen? You can't.

[01:01:06] You can't just bring out stuff like that because people are so charted. They just believe anything. But so it's so difficult for most to discern from what is real and what is not. I mean, that's the way we are. It's crazy. Kent, what do you think? And when you said about Todd Blanche, I can't think of any point in when he said that, what you're saying. I even looked it up. He hasn't said it publicly. He said it behind the scenes.

[01:01:35] And the person that told me that in confidence knows for a fact. Absolutely 100% fact. So it's somebody that we know very well. All right. So let me ask you this. Do you think the control of this operation, we've heard a lot. Again, we had Judith Berry Baker on the show. I don't know if you know her. Oh, yeah. I met her son recently. Lee Harvey Oswald's alleged girlfriend.

[01:02:04] I believe her. I think there's enough proof that she was. She talks about that much of what the CIA told us about Oswald is not true. And you came up with some new revelations that I'd like you to share with the audience, which you can share. It's in your new book. Of course, getting your book is a top opportunity to get this stuff from the inside. But tell me about these revelations. Tell me what you can talk about here. Well, a couple of things. Now, I'm kind of like a document hound.

[01:02:32] And I'm also like an architecture structure guy. And I think that what Book of Secrets reveals is how this architecture of secrecy works. Now, in the JFK assassination files that were released, I thought one of the most interesting documents was a document that had been hidden for 64 years. And it was Arthur Schlesinger's memo, who was a presidential advisor.

[01:03:01] And Kennedy asked him, in the wake of the Bay of Pigs disaster, to write about the CIA. And in 1961, what he wrote is that essentially half of our overseas diplomats for the State Department were CIA spooks. And they weren't just CIA spooks in enemy countries.

[01:03:22] They were CIA spooks in friendly countries like France, which had over 120 CIA officers operating under diplomatic cover in France, our supposed ally. And so when you look at that architecture and you say, well, I understand that this is from 64 years ago. But the question is, well, how did that change?

[01:03:51] Did the CIA stop doing that? Is there any evidence they stopped doing it? Just like we asked the questions, okay, I understand you destroyed the MK Ultra files in 1973, but it was the biggest CIA operation at the time. And did it continue? Well, the only way you can tell me that it didn't continue is that I see that some people went to jail.

[01:04:20] Same thing with Operation Mockingbird. Why is it that George H.W. Bush prevented Congress from releasing the names of those people the CIA had paid at that time to plant stories in the American media? You also look at things like what President Obama did with allowing, by law, the CIA to lie to us.

[01:04:47] He did that in a 2014 Defense Department bill. And so the question that I always ask is not about evil individuals. The question I ask is, is our system designed for transparency or is it designed to allow unscrupulous people to do bad things?

[01:05:13] And so as much as I'm going to go after the bad guys, the bigger hunt is to create a better system. That's what needs to be done. And to your question about why do we do it? Well, I like George's shirt, which says, I've read this story. In the end, God wins. And I think that I've read the final chapter. God wins. And as I look at my work, I say, I'm a servant.

[01:05:43] I'm a servant of something larger than myself. I believe that God will keep me if I am following his words. What that means, whether I am successful or that means that I mysteriously die. Well, let that be my legacy. But what is not going to be said about me, hopefully, is that I lacked courage to fight

[01:06:12] evil as I saw it. You know, I'd have to say that I'd contend out of the gate with what my background is and what I know that no, they haven't stopped. You know, they've had so many operations. Operation Shamrock, you know, and all the watchlist programs. The CIA and FBI mail opening programs, Operation Northwoods, you know, Project Shad, Ocean Sea Spray, as I mentioned earlier, and you mentioned MKUltra, Mockingbird. You've got Operation Chaos. I mean, the list just goes on and on.

[01:06:42] I could just, you know, pontificate about that. Anybody that does a minimal amount of research is going to see that they, you know, even listen, even their syphilis program. You look about them intentionally at the Tuskegee syphilis study, and you look about what they did to real Americans, regardless, and what they've done to incarcerated individuals and what they planned to do, you know, and when they wanted CIA operatives to impersonate Cuban, you know, military.

[01:07:09] They were going to kill actual people in Florida. Yeah. They were going to invade. Ratchet an airplane. Yeah. So, you know, you think about that, and George brought it up. You know, we don't have the truth about 9-11. You can, let's forget the main buildings. This building's seven, there's no possible way that building came down the way it did. There's lots of theories, of course, even the ownership. We've had people on this show that are experts. My thing is, I think that just the curtain, to clear up the government, you've got to pull back the curtain.

[01:07:37] I understand what George is saying, that he thinks the American people couldn't handle it, but I'm a guy. They're lucky I'm not president. It would be biblical. It would be an overnight operation. We'd probably lose 1,000 or 1,200 alleged Americans, because I know that there's a nefarious operation. I don't like the Federal Reserve. I don't like the influence. I don't like the people that got money from USAID, but I specifically don't like individuals that are paid operatives, that have done things that aren't in the best interest of our country or our families.

[01:08:05] And I don't think you can play nice-nice. I don't think there's a modest middle ground where you fix some of it and you don't fix the rest of it. I think you have to go, you know, Operation Clean Sweep, and that would be probably what I would call the black op I would run. And then I'd throw myself onto the American public for judgment after I told them what I'd done, because I said, listen, these 11 or 1,200 people, at least based on my numbers, aren't coming back. You're never going to see him again. You're never going to hear from him. Obama's not going to be on the trail, and Hillary Clinton's not going to be out there. They're gone.

[01:08:34] So now I'm going to tell you why I did it. I almost wonder if that's the only solution, even right now, to save the midterms. And I want to give you a chance to do what I like to call the shameless plug so you can promote your books, promote your social media here towards the end. And I want you to make a statement to the public, because a lot of people are out there because they didn't get delivery on what they were promised. They're talking about not voting. And I'm saying you can't do that. We're in a situation where we have to vote. I don't know if we can vote our way out of this.

[01:09:04] We don't have a free and fair election system. I don't trust Dominion or Smartmatic or Scheidel. I don't trust the people that are in charge of our elections across the nation. Too many people are brainwashed. You know, do you think this is even fixable? Because the National Emergency Act, George, don't you believe at this point, and I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm saying that that seems to be the only solution because we know we have domestic and international interference in our elections, and they are a fallen entity.

[01:09:34] George? It's not going to happen. I mean, we don't know as far as machines what has changed since a Republican took vote over Dominion. We don't know. You know, it's been kind of quiet. But, you know, are we going to see, you know, pipes breaking and stop counting and then they'll still be counting and taking secret ballots in these boxes from underneath this table and put them through and, matter of fact, put them through again.

[01:10:01] But you can't bring it to court because you get shot down for no standing. I mean, we see what? In California, there's at least 20,000 citizens. And even California admitted that they can't clarify if they're citizens or not or whatever. So, I mean, that's just that part. There's probably more in California than you go everywhere else. It's a disaster. Can't get voter ID. God forbid. You need ID for everything else, but not to vote.

[01:10:31] No siree. God forbid. You'll be a racist bigot. But if he does that, they'll be stuck. The left and the media would come so hard crashing on Trump and the admin, saying he's a dictator, he's subverting the will of the people. It'd just be bad. And I can tell you if that happens, even if they fix the elections, I think people will switch

[01:10:58] voting and they'll be a Democratic president next time around. Kent, what do you think? I think it's important to realize our enemies are miserable people. They're miserable, unhappy people. And they're called liberals. They suck.

[01:11:20] And so it's sort of like if you run an organization, you know, it's a little bit like the Austin Powers movies where Dr. Evil is saying, really, these are my henchmen? I'm paying them and they suck so much. And so I think that you have to have this understanding that these bad guys suck. They're terrible. They can't get shit done. They're alcoholics. Their marriages are breaking up. Their kids hate them.

[01:11:48] And those of us who are hopefully on the side of goodness and righteousness, we live better lives than them. So I think we need to lose this idea that they are all powerful because they're not. They hide in the dark because they know they're weak. They are the cockroaches and we are the warriors.

[01:12:16] And so we need to be happy, healthy, transparent with people. You know, not saying any of us is the Messiah, you know, but saying, hey, we're trying to do good stuff. And I think that there are so many more of us than there are of them.

[01:12:37] And I think the very fact that you can talk about Operation Shamrock, Operation Chaos, Operation Con Intel Pro, Operation Northwoods shows that the truth is leaky. And that's something that I always say, which is when you plan to do evil, you make mistakes.

[01:13:02] And if you just tell the truth, you don't have to worry about remembering what you did because it's just the truth. You're not making shit up. Yeah. So the truth is much easier. The truth is so much easier. And so happiness is so much easier. You know, I remember I once ran across a young man who's in his early 20s and he'd recently been red pilled.

[01:13:30] And he told me how, you know, from the moment he got up in the morning until he went to sleep at night, he was online researching all the things about the deep state. And he said, he says, hey, do you have any more advice for me about what else I should be doing? And I said, yeah, go on a date for God's sakes. Okay. So tell him to watch this show. You know, I said, look, spend two or three hours a day fighting the devil. Okay.

[01:14:00] Try try and and and be God's hands in this world. The rest of the time, enjoy the bounty that God has given you. You know, you there are so many nice people around you and, you know, enjoy them and people who need things from you and people who want to connect with you. So so try to live a full life.

[01:14:24] Try to live a life in which you are making things better, but also make things better in the little slice of the world that God has given you dominion over. And so, you know, as much as I'm trying to help our country and help the world, I want to make sure that I'm good to my wife and my kids and my family and my friends and that I'm I'm that I'm a good person in my community.

[01:14:51] So so all of those things go together. And so I think that there's there's a lot of good in the world. And, you know, we just like Atticus Finch and, you know, to kill a mockingbird. Sometimes you got to get the rifle and kill the rabid dog. I get that. But then the rest of the day, you know, try to be gentle and good and kind.

[01:15:20] All right. Well, I appreciate that message to the audience. And I think you're over the target on it. Let's do the shameless plug. You've got Kent Heckenlively and Lively Books dot com. You've got your website. You've got your new book. Go ahead. Take it from there. Yeah. So we got Book of Secrets. Congress tries to find the truth about the deep state. And then I've also got this is another recent book about the UFO issue and the hearings in Congress.

[01:15:46] And then if you want something a little bit more spicy, I've got if you want to laugh and have a good time. This never happened to Call Girl in D.C., which is a fictionalized version of the Watergate scandal. So, you know, you have to laugh at the bad guys.

[01:16:09] And so as much as we want to, you know, be detailed and everything, we should also have a good time. And I think the bad guys, you know, suck and are useless. And so let's just say that you suck. You're useless. You're not a value to our country. Stop doing it. Yeah, I agree with that. Now, your podcast, your main home base is YouTube.

[01:16:39] So they can go on there and follow the Big MIG show on YouTube. And at the same time, they can follow. Do I have the name right? Twice as Lively? Yeah. Twice as Lively with Kent Heck and Lively. And I try to live up to the name. Twice as Lively. And then on X, you're Kent Heck and Lively. You shortened it, huh? Yeah. Heck and Lively wouldn't go on it. Yeah. It's like Miliacho. It's a tough one. Well, your name fits, bro. My name don't fit. Stop. Don't try to compare. You can't compare right there. Your name fits.

[01:17:09] You get Valentin in there. You just don't get the full first name. Well, Kent and George, we both can't get our full names. Lance, you get your full name. I do get my full name. All right. My full full name would be Lance Claudio Miliacho. You're left out of this one. It's going to be all right. I know you have feelings about being left out. I get it. All right. And then on Instagram, you're Kent Heck and Lively. So listen, get over there and follow his show.

[01:17:35] Kent, he's got a deep pool of knowledge with 22 books in his armory. This guy's done a ton of research. He's a real guy, as you can tell. We appreciate you coming in today, Kent. Stick around for a minute. Of course, we're out of time for the day. The easiest way to thank us is to take the short form, take the long form, grow your own social media on the work we've done here. Help us grow. We need all the follows and support. Of course, you can do a paid subscription for five bucks a month. It's recurring billing. We appreciate that. That helps us every single month to cover the nut on this show.

[01:18:03] And of course, Rumble Rand tips are always appreciated. But at a minimum, crush that follow button. And next time you're here, if you're new to the show, don't be shy. Get in the chat. Tell us what's going on. Let us know you're new. George, last words of wisdom for the audience. Y'all have a blessed day. Stay frosty out there and stay safe. Peace.

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