THE BIG MIG SHOW
JUNE 26, 2025
EPISODE 592- 11AM
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Welcome back to the big big show.
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Of course I'm your host Lance Miliaccio with my Co host George
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Of course it's always tip of the spear on this show 'cause you
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All right, George B Man, what's going on there, brother?
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What's happening? How's the weather there?
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It is. Looks like it's going to rain.
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It's cloudy. I don't know.
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I haven't been outside, but I'm looking out the window.
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I put the blind up real quick. It's very cloudy out.
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It's a mess out there right now, but it just poured just
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What is it? It's hard to keep Jack.
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It's Thursday, brother. Yeah, it feels like that,
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George. You know, at the end of the day,
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Of course we're, we're, we're joined by Basil Bass.
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Today he's known as the patron St. of impossible causes.
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Basberg's an extraordinary life of covert operations at the CIA,
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Hollywood storytelling and counterterrorism expertise to
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every conversation. A former CIA intelligence
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Special Operations Group officer and U.S.
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Marine Corps counterterrorism officer, he's a decorated
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veteran. He served at the highest levels
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of U.S. intelligence, A graduate of The Citadel and recipient of
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the Intelligence Commendation Medal.
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His missions remain classified, but his impact is unmistakable.
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He's masterfully transitioning his operational experience.
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You guys probably know him from the hit series Blacklist into an
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influential career in the entertainment industry.
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He's the founder also, and I love this part.
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You know how we are about the child trafficking on this show.
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We've done everything we can to expose it and support those that
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are fighting it. He he he's created the
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Association of the Recovery of children.
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It's an elite non profit dedicated to rescuing missing
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and exploited American children from trafficking and abduction,
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often conducting missions others won't touch.
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I could go on and on. Here, let's get him in here.
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There's no reason to waste any more time.
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No. Welcome to the big, big show,
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Basil Bass. How you doing, Sir?
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We got no audio. Good to be with you guys.
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Thank you so much. Hey, Bass, thank you so very
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much for joining us, man. You know, we always feel like on
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this show that, you know, time is the most valuable commodity
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that any of us has is that clock ticks.
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Listen, you know that there's so much to talk about with you, but
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I think we've got to start maybe at the beginning.
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I think it would agree if you could share with the audience
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how you went from the US Marine Corps and decided that the CIA
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was the right choice for you. Yeah, thank you.
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Thanks for having me. Kind of a funny story.
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I was at the national war and being a counterterrorism and
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guys walked up to me these CIA badges of all things, which is
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kind of unusual. I thought.
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I thought everybody you know from that, from that
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organization stayed invisible. And they said, Captain Boss,
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how'd you like to do God's work? And I was like, I don't really
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know what that means. So they said, well, we, we've
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been watching you and we have some interest in you and
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wondered if you would be interested in talking to us
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about a career in the CIA. And I said, well, I said, let's
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have a conversation. And they said, well, we'll be in
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touch. And they just disappeared.
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They walked down the hall and I was trying to figure out, wait a
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minute, I didn't give them any of my contact information, how
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to be in touch. So about literally about a week
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later, I get a note on my desk that said, go see Colonel Norman
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at this certain building at Quantico.
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And so I took a walk down there wasn't very far from where I
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was, where I was working. And it was this building, unlike
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all the other Marine Corps building, generally spit and
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Polish grass was growing up. Paint was coming off the off the
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wall, off the outside walls and and the door.
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And so I thought maybe, maybe I'm at the wrong place, but I
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knocked anyway and the door opened and a lady and civilian
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attire said Captain Boz when I walked inside this rundown
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building and and then and Shannon ran at Colonel Dorman's
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office and I walked in and here's this like, you know,
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shiny oak floors and bookcase and everything but Marine Corps.
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It reminded me of some great, you know, great writers room, so
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to speak. And what I was looking at was
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the back of a leather chair, top of somebody's, you know, crew
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cut haircut and a trail of cigars.
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I said, turn dormant, Captain boss reporting his words.
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And he swings around in the chair and I'm looking at this
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marine of a Marine, you know, heel, blue eyes, square jaw.
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And he takes the fire stick out of his out of his mouth and sets
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it down and says, Captain Boss, I understand he's been a
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country. And of course, I hadn't told
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anybody that that I had even had spoken with him and I didn't
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really know what to say. And he looked at me and he said,
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naval attache aunt gave me a day hotel had gunned down by
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terrorists. And I said, yes, Sir, that
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incident, he said, but did you hear the rest of the story?
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No, Sir, I'm not sure what you're talking about as well.
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That attache picked himself up off the off the dirt, opened his
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briefcase, pulled out of Zuzi and took quote.
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And when those sobs came back, he gunned them all down.
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He walked back in the Hilton Hotel and said, give me a
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doctor. They got him a doctor.
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And that son is why I stay in the Hilton Hotel.
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So he goes and he said saying that naval attache, that was me
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and I was working. Hey, and I'm here to ask you, do
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you want to join the CIA? And I didn't, I still didn't
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really know what to say. And he said, well, you just
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think about it. As I was walking out the door, I
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stopped and I turned around and said, Sir, if you were me, what
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would you do? And he swivels around and back
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in the chair. I'm looking at the same picture
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that I saw when I entered, the back of the leather chair, the
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top of his head, the trail of cigar smoke.
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I hear him say, why'd you win the CIA if I were you, boy?
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And about two weeks later, I disappeared from the United
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States Marine Corps and I ended up in, let's say, yes, social
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activity service, SOG Ground branch.
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And we're surrounded by some of the most amazing war fighter you
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can ever have in your life. That's how I got there.
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Thanks, Badge. We lost Lance for a minute.
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He'll be coming back. I don't know what happened.
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He just threw me for a loop, so I had to change our shot
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options. So he's back.
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Hold on. Let me bring him back in.
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Lance, can you hear us? Yeah, You know, I I don't know,
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maybe the CIA doesn't want him to talk and they wanted to cut
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me out of the discussion over here.
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Who knows? At the end of the day, I had a
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short blackout. It was like a one second
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blackout. But of course, everything reset.
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Never good. You know, it's funny.
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They they, they it was interesting.
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I, I went to Colorado State University and they were
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recruiting on campus and I actually was challenged because
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a lot of my friends thought I was the perfect fit for the CIA
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and they challenged me to go walk in for the interview.
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And, you know, because I'd always been into combat sports,
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I was always in good shape and I had kind of, my whole history
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might have been a good fit, you know, but I think I let the, my,
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my own personal greed at that time, probably a bad decision.
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Maybe I should have done it, But I actually interviewed really
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well. They pursued me for weeks after
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this because they, I guess I did fit them all.
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Then I'd done some additional testing they gave on campus and
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it was interesting. I didn't take that path.
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Now, in retrospect, I kind of wish I had, but I went down a
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different route. I ended up being, years later,
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I, I, I started training, I was doing training for lots of
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different organizations, close quarters battle techniques, hand
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to hand knife fighting, all that sort of thing.
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So I ended up becoming a government contractor later on.
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I'd done some work and I worked with, you know, Blackwater,
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Halliburton, United Defense, Sabre and a couple others, did a
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bunch of international work. But as I circle back and now
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that I've gotten older, I kind of feel like maybe working for
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the government might have been a good move for me.
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It was a good fit I think, cuz I was pretty comfortable around
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those guys. But it was interesting.
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You're right. They kind of have a laid back
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style to the point that I thought when I walked out, I
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thought, Oh yeah, they freaking hate me.
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There's no way they want me. And it turned out it was the
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exact opposite. So interesting stuff, George.
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Have we thrown up his picture yet?
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I don't know if I missed that with him.
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And I want to talk about which one.
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The one with him next to the CIA logo there.
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There's one. Yeah, yeah, there it is.
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There's the shot they took. They took that off your website.
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You know, what's really interesting about your
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background is that you also the recipient of the Intelligence
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Commendation Medal and a lot of other exceptional performance
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awards. I know the CIA.
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Those are pretty you. You really have to do some heavy
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lifting for them to even get considered for those.
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They don't quite give those out maybe as easily as some of the
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military forces do. Can you give me a little
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background on that? I know there's a lot of covert
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stuff you can't talk about, but maybe some of the stuff that led
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in generalized statements. What led to you receiving some
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of those awards and medals? Yeah.
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Well, I think I think the best way to set it up is to say that
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when I came in, they were choosing people that didn't want
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to reward for anything. You know, it was very clear that
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if you were the type of individual that could be a
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silent warrior, do your job, not expect anything, oftentimes not
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even a thank you and you were satisfied with that.
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You were the right person. And I still agree with that to
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this day. To be honest with you.
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All the people that I learned from who were or there from
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there, they were from or you know, former Navy Seals, all the
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old, old warriors, so to speak. That's the way they live their
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life and that's the way I was taught.
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So to receive something was actually always quite a
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surprise. And not that we weren't
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grateful, but really didn't really didn't talk a lot about
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it or go yeah, I deserve that. Maybe particularly in in light
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of all your friends that do, you know, that are are buried down.
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There's a star on the wall for them and stuff like that.
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So I think it's, it's safe for me to say before I talk a little
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bit about that, that there are much finer.
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Why learn from. And then I owe my life and my my
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expertise to those guys, in addition to my dad, eighth group
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guy way back, you know, But these these are the men and
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women that I found myself among when I got there.
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And I was just blown away. These are the people that just
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kind of disappear into the dark. You don't ever know what
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happened to them. And then one day get someplace
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like Ground Branch site. Oh, my gosh.
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Yeah. It's Ron Franklin, former
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Sergeant major, Delta Force, you know, or whatever it may be.
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That particular Intel star I got from our work in Mogadishu,
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Somalia, It was a handful of ground branch officers that had
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gone in early to do what we did, you know, you know, basically
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collecting Intel and a few other things.
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Whatever was required of us, I didn't, didn't really expect it
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to come out of that, anything to come out of that because or to
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receive that, because there had been so many things along the
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way that we had all been confronted with.
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And I think we, we obviously only were success, successful
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and the outcomes. And you just came back and you,
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you did your laundry, you packed your clothes and you just went
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back out. In those days when I came on
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board, weren't very many of us at Ground Branch?
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I think, and I'm this man number may not be correct.
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I think like 23. That was it for the entire that
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I know our office was very small.
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All of that changed after 911 as, as you know, George and and
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Lance. Grew.
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Exponentially to fit into whatever the the congressional
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agenda was that chasing terrorists ISIS, yeah, you know,
00:19:05
the Taliban and this goes. So I'm I'm I'm proud of it.
00:19:10
It's a nice looking thing. It sits on my wall and A and a
00:19:13
kind of a, you know, a room that I don't let many people in.
00:19:19
And it's just a good reminder of of doing the right thing.
00:19:23
And, you know, and that's that's what you always want to do.
00:19:26
A lot of the guys in ground Ranch mission focus to to the
00:19:31
Dutchman of their marriages most of the time remember things they
00:19:35
said don't get married if you're which won't last, and that was
00:19:41
true. There are a few officers in
00:19:43
there that are still married and that amazing wives, but I'd say
00:19:48
a percentage of us that didn't listen and we're not in those
00:19:52
marriages. You know, I think for a lot of
00:19:55
people, they don't realize the sacrifice that comes with covert
00:19:58
operations. You know, the interesting part,
00:20:02
you know, I spent a lot of time around covert undercover
00:20:04
operatives and lots of different agencies and even some bunch of
00:20:08
people from different international teams, MI 6,
00:20:11
Mossad and others. And I spent a lot of time in the
00:20:14
Middle East and Northern Africa during that time period.
00:20:16
But you know, the, the undercover operatives, they're,
00:20:18
they're kind of a unique kind of a, a, a, a beast.
00:20:22
At the end of the day, they're interesting individuals as far
00:20:25
as how they operate, but the sacrifice they make when it
00:20:27
comes to their personal connections and families, it's
00:20:31
it's one of the things I think people in the in the American
00:20:33
public really estimate, underestimate.
00:20:36
Do you feel like your your life was considerably released on a
00:20:40
personal level because of your participation in the CIA?
00:20:44
It was better. Is that what you asked?
00:20:46
No, I don't know if it was better necessarily.
00:20:48
I mean, do you feel like your personal connections were
00:20:50
considerably different than outside the agencies, outside of
00:20:54
your, your work teams that that you you weren't as able to be as
00:20:58
personal with people? I've heard this before that some
00:21:00
people felt disconnected. Yeah, you know, I think it's how
00:21:04
you live your cover, to be honest with you, Lance, I I
00:21:07
think that if you make a big deal that it's going to be
00:21:10
difficult for you to engage in life because now spy or you're
00:21:14
in the cover. I guess some people develop that
00:21:19
attitude. I just kind of always went with
00:21:23
the flow. It's like, OK, by day I'm this,
00:21:25
by night I'm that it's not a big deal.
00:21:27
It's just what you have to do to protect your family.
00:21:29
Check, you know, your mission and stuff like that.
00:21:32
So I, I, I think overall my life was is far better from the
00:21:38
people I met than operations within the CIA.
00:21:42
It isn't better. It isn't better by all the
00:21:44
people I met in the CIA. And in fact, Jeremy, now talk.
00:21:47
I wouldn't even go back and see right?
00:21:50
Now, yeah. It's so it when Obama went in,
00:21:53
it got so corrupted. Yeah.
00:21:55
Clinton, Obama and Bush and all those guys.
00:21:58
And it's not place. And I only know this because
00:22:01
obviously, even though once you're out as you, you can be
00:22:04
out. And people believe that's not
00:22:07
true. They go, well, you're never out.
00:22:08
Well, yeah, yeah, you are. But you still maintain those
00:22:11
friendships and connections and you still kind of keep your, you
00:22:14
know, your hand on the pulse of the of the organization.
00:22:18
And it's not the same place if it's going to ever be as
00:22:21
effective as it was in the days of Bill Casey.
00:22:24
Our spies were real spies. And we really did our job
00:22:27
instead of getting weaponized by politicians.
00:22:32
They're going to they're going to have to step on the gas
00:22:33
pedal. It's going to have to be cleaned
00:22:35
up and the right people are going to have to be put in.
00:22:38
Otherwise, it will not only become the biggest dragon in the
00:22:41
room for 47, it will become the biggest dragon in the room for
00:22:45
all the corruption that currently exists there.
00:22:48
What they manage on the level of corruption.
00:22:52
And we, you won't be able to control it.
00:22:53
It will run a nation. I mean, this is an organization
00:22:56
that I belong to that we overthrew governments.
00:22:58
We don't think they have the capability to overthrow the
00:23:00
government that they are supposed to be aligned with.
00:23:04
In the wrong hands, they'll do the same thing to the United
00:23:07
States that they did to other governments.
00:23:09
Good or bad, it doesn't really matter.
00:23:11
I mean, during our time, I considered stopping communism
00:23:15
and, and the pursuit of democracy a good thing, but when
00:23:21
it falls in the wrong hands, you're having just the opposite
00:23:24
happening in your own country. And I think we who are kind of
00:23:27
on the in the trenches know that what has happened with the deep
00:23:30
state state is real. It's not to promote democracy
00:23:36
and support the Constitution. It is just the opposite.
00:23:40
The challenge we have is as the war isn't being fought out
00:23:42
there, it's being fought on our own soil.
00:23:45
And so I tell people, you know, just because 47 is in battle is
00:23:49
actually just beginning. Trust me, you know, people have
00:23:52
no idea. We thought it was ugly when we
00:23:54
got to look behind the veil. It is uglier than we could have
00:23:58
ever. You know.
00:23:59
On Lance. Lance, hold.
00:24:00
On Yeah, George, please hold. On Basil can you raise your mic
00:24:02
volume as high as you your settings allow it and Lance
00:24:05
lower yours so he can balance out because.
00:24:08
OK. Please.
00:24:10
All right. How's that guys?
00:24:13
Is is that the highest it can go?
00:24:15
Yeah, that seems to be the highest it can go.
00:24:17
George, is that better? No lower Lance.
00:24:20
Sorry guys. I just want to get this right
00:24:21
for you guys, OK? No problem, I don't work at.
00:24:24
Bike here part of the process. Yeah.
00:24:26
George, how's that better? Yeah, thanks.
00:24:28
OK. Yep, you got it.
00:24:30
Glasses back on. That's why I'm trying to raise
00:24:32
it as high as I can on my end so it balances out.
00:24:35
It's all good, all. Right.
00:24:38
You know, a lot of people, the public narrative, right, the
00:24:42
public narrative about how we're pursuing democracy and how the
00:24:45
agencies, that's what their prime, you know, goal is not
00:24:51
really the case. You know, I worked around a lot
00:24:52
of different operations over the years, you know, doing
00:24:56
diplomatic security and facility security and all kinds of other
00:24:58
things. And I didn't have any military
00:25:02
background. So I came in a bit a different
00:25:03
way. I was training contractors and
00:25:06
I, I, I'd come from a gun culture and been raised, you
00:25:08
know, shooting my whole life. So I was pretty adept early on
00:25:13
with those skills. And then I focused on all my,
00:25:15
you know, fighting skills for years and years and years.
00:25:19
But when I was around those people and I started to see kind
00:25:23
of what was really going on, Like you said, when the veil
00:25:26
gets pulled back, you recognize that what we're being told is
00:25:29
considerably different than what's going on now.
00:25:32
I was already phasing out by the time 9/11 came on.
00:25:35
I wasn't doing any more private work any longer.
00:25:38
And what I thought was interesting is the stories that
00:25:41
I would hear from people that I was still close with and I'm
00:25:43
still close with now. You know, the the stories behind
00:25:47
Hammer and Hammer, you know, the Hammer supercomputer and the
00:25:50
surveillance and so many other things when it had to do with
00:25:53
ECHELON and Carnivore and the programs that are now
00:25:56
declassified you can talk about and the way they were using them
00:26:00
to spy on Americans. And of course, it seemed like
00:26:04
Kennedy got it right when he said the CIA need to be
00:26:06
scattered to the winds. His insight maybe back then was,
00:26:10
you know, maybe maybe a little premature, maybe the agency was
00:26:13
still doing good work, but he wasn't comfortable with maybe
00:26:15
the direction it was going. Of course, a lot of people
00:26:18
believe he was assassinated because of it.
00:26:21
Even now, we're supposed to get all those files.
00:26:23
But there's many things the government is even this
00:26:26
administration is hasn't really gone.
00:26:28
They said, oh, we're going to release all the Kennedy files.
00:26:30
And Rodger Stone is probably one of the premier Kennedy experts
00:26:34
has said he's truly believes they haven't released all the
00:26:36
files for a number of reasons. Things he won't talk about
00:26:39
because, of course, he served with, you know, and was in the
00:26:42
White House with four different presidents in different roles.
00:26:46
And he knew a lot. Of course, he was extremely
00:26:48
close to Richard Nixon. I think Nixon had discussed some
00:26:51
of those things early on that couldn't be discussed when it
00:26:54
came to Kennedy, and Rodger probably knows about that.
00:26:56
But you look about the MLK vials and the RFK vials, 9/11, there's
00:27:00
still lots of questions, although there seems to be some
00:27:02
movement in the direction that people don't think that was
00:27:05
fully disclosed. Who knows what the real, real
00:27:07
story is behind it. Maybe it really is all a
00:27:10
terrorist operation. But there's a lot of questions
00:27:12
about how the buildings were taken down.
00:27:14
I, you know, having known a lot of, you know, a lot about
00:27:16
demolition and lots of EOD stuff like, you know, I question it.
00:27:20
There's lots of things about that event that don't seem in
00:27:23
particular was there like is there a moment you can talk
00:27:26
about maybe where you started to question maybe now you see it.
00:27:30
But back then was there a couple of times because I was things
00:27:32
that I saw transactions, currency exchanges, weapons
00:27:37
exchanges, things like that, that I kind of just walked away
00:27:41
shaking my head and said, man, this can't.
00:27:43
And of course as a contractor, you know, you're a disposable
00:27:45
asset. That's why they use contractors
00:27:48
for deniable accountability. Of course, that's that's why
00:27:50
they use us. I, I would walk away thinking
00:27:53
there's no freaking way we just participated was legal on any
00:27:57
continent. There's no way that that should
00:28:00
have even happened. Of course, I kept it to myself.
00:28:02
I didn't vocalize it. I just kind of sat there
00:28:04
thinking, man. And later on some of my
00:28:07
experiences, it's why I stopped doing it because I, I had a bad
00:28:10
interaction. I got shot and I got left behind
00:28:13
and I had to walk out just about 10 clicks using dirty socks and
00:28:17
duct tape so I didn't bleed out. And you know, I, I thought, man,
00:28:23
this, I don't know how long my, my life, my lifeline is going to
00:28:27
go here. Was there one moment that you
00:28:29
said, ah, man, I don't know this, this, this might be time
00:28:32
for me to find a different career.
00:28:34
Yeah, yeah. There was 1 moment.
00:28:36
It wasn't about finding a different career, but it was an
00:28:38
eye opener for me. We were supporting an initiative
00:28:44
with the and we were on our way to takedown a facility and 24
00:28:53
hour the operation launched, we got an abort from Washington
00:28:59
only for me to find out that the facility was a Chevron oil
00:29:03
facility which was supporting and supplying the Russians and
00:29:07
the Cubans the fuel they needed to fight against the very people
00:29:10
we were supporting. And I remember looking at Popeye
00:29:14
and he said, welcome to the club.
00:29:17
This is this is a reality check for you.
00:29:20
Oh, I got schooled to to understand that every operation
00:29:24
I went on, I was more so protecting my buddies and my
00:29:26
friends than than the war. And I just had this conversation
00:29:31
with a young war fighter yesterday.
00:29:34
And he was he was asking the same questions, Lance, that you
00:29:37
were asking. And I said, look, every
00:29:39
operation you've gone on, whether as a contractor or part
00:29:43
of the military, when you get down range, do you are you
00:29:47
thinking about what the political, political issues are
00:29:50
behind all of this? It goes no.
00:29:52
Absolutely not. You're saving your buddy, you're
00:29:54
saving a villager, you're and at the end of the day, when you
00:29:57
come home, you need to feel good back.
00:29:59
I did. I did the right thing by doing
00:30:02
that. But as we get more mature and we
00:30:05
look at that from the 14 foot level of why we sent
00:30:08
someone there to begin with, I can with absolute confidence
00:30:14
tell you that we have that. We have military industrial
00:30:19
complex and politicians. We have spilled more innocent
00:30:23
blood from more fighters for their profit than I can shake a
00:30:28
stick at. And then we know that.
00:30:30
So it's not I, I and he said, what, what would you feel good
00:30:35
about being a part of it needed to go back, you know, outside of
00:30:39
just having making money as a contractor.
00:30:42
I said I would feel good about my shores if my shores were
00:30:45
being attacked here at my country.
00:30:48
I said, but I'm very skeptical. Anytime I see us go over another
00:30:52
country, I always ask the questions who's profiting from
00:30:54
that? Who's making money from that?
00:30:56
And how many of my buddies are going to die because of that.
00:30:59
So I really like the sevens approach about how we should be
00:31:03
fighting those battles, so to speak, be doing the long term
00:31:08
stuff. I have to but that moment that I
00:31:11
just explained to you made me think.
00:31:13
And then I I realized there is justification for being
00:31:16
compartmented in the agency. But what has happened is that
00:31:22
that that system has been greatly to the point that I go
00:31:29
all the way back to Iran Contra and here we are location with
00:31:33
certain individuals training Contras, having no idea that not
00:31:38
very far away there's another base that's running drugs for
00:31:42
Bill Clinton to be in Arkansas. And when I got back later years
00:31:47
with people, guys, you know, you guys were running drugs.
00:31:48
It's like, no, we weren't the middle of the middle helping
00:31:51
people fight a war. Had no idea.
00:31:54
And that was another eye opener for me as well.
00:31:57
There's no way that those deals could not have been made unless
00:32:00
they were made behind our backs. But they needed distractions and
00:32:03
we were the distraction and the people that died were the
00:32:06
distraction. And it really pisses me off to
00:32:09
be honest with you. And when, when I people go what,
00:32:12
what would what would accountability look like for
00:32:14
you? Accountability would look like
00:32:17
finding out who was part of that and who made the money and
00:32:20
hanging them with a short rope from a big tree.
00:32:23
To be honest with you, you know, most patriots and most of us now
00:32:27
and, and at 69, I don't really give a rat's ass people thinking
00:32:31
about what are you going to do and send me back to Iraq, send
00:32:33
me to Afghanistan, you know, put me in a, you put me in another
00:32:36
jail cell or something, doesn't matter.
00:32:38
But the truth has to be told. And people are, people are
00:32:42
seeking accountability now. And I don't mean in a broken
00:32:45
judicial system, people and Americans have a right to say,
00:32:49
why is it that I go to jail but Hillary Clinton doesn't go to
00:32:52
jail? Man, that you are speaking.
00:32:56
You talk about that all the time.
00:32:58
George, I'm gonna let you run with this because, you know,
00:33:01
I've spoken about accountability and consequences and the rule of
00:33:04
law, equal application of law, right?
00:33:07
You know, equal protection of the law.
00:33:09
You are talking about one of our main veins on this show and I
00:33:13
and I and and then George, I'm going to say one more thing and
00:33:15
I want you to I want you to because you, you and I have done
00:33:17
this non-stop. You know, a lot of people don't
00:33:20
recognize, you know it when it comes down to at least in the
00:33:23
area that I was in, you know, the rules of engagement.
00:33:26
You would think that common sense would be part of that, but
00:33:29
it never was. It was always about the agenda
00:33:31
of whatever mission it was or whatever, whatever operation it
00:33:35
was, but it wasn't in alignment with what was being publicized.
00:33:39
And you know, I think what happens, you know, you start out
00:33:42
in any of this stuff bright eyed and bushy tailed.
00:33:44
You're excited about it for one reason or another.
00:33:46
And then they kind of take your virginity and you recognize that
00:33:52
there's more shame in the game than maybe understood.
00:33:54
George, go from there. Because man accountability
00:33:56
consequences. That is a key element of this
00:33:59
show, and common sense is a key element of our.
00:34:01
Show you might have just hit you might hit a nerve there Baz
00:34:04
because just look forget about Hillary Clinton.
00:34:08
She should be hanging from the gallows in my opinion.
00:34:10
But if you look at just right now the the couple Congress
00:34:13
people the judge, how dare you arrest a put arrest or put in
00:34:18
handcuffs sitting congresswoman or senator.
00:34:22
They just act like they're above the law.
00:34:24
You know and it's and this is the problem because like you
00:34:27
said there's no consequences Baz and like you've if you could
00:34:31
steal a candy bar from a store and you don't get caught the
00:34:33
person's going to do it again if there's no consequence to do it
00:34:36
again just like all the looting and burning.
00:34:38
I have a question for you. Yes Sir and Lance is going to
00:34:41
laugh but you think I say no the golden Fort Knox.
00:34:45
I don't think there's really much there.
00:34:49
Yeah, that's what happened. To the audit, where's the audit?
00:34:52
He smiled, so he knows something.
00:34:56
You know what? I I don't usually speak to
00:34:58
something unless I've seen it with my own eyes, so I can't
00:35:01
tell you if it is. There isn't.
00:35:02
But you can see it because it's not there.
00:35:05
Yeah, it's, you know, The funny thing is, they were all hot to
00:35:07
trot about the audit. Elon Musk was disposing a lot.
00:35:10
You, you know, there was a fallout in DC over it.
00:35:12
All right, listen, we got a lot to cover here.
00:35:14
We got to take a small break. We come back.
00:35:16
We'll be here with Basil Baz. Of course, we're pulling back
00:35:18
the veil. You may not want to hear it.
00:35:20
This this isn't mainstream media.
00:35:22
So you're hearing the truth right here from a couple of old
00:35:25
warriors, and we're going to be continuing to do what we do,
00:35:29
which is expose the truth. It's edge of the knife on this
00:35:31
show always. We'll be right back with George
00:35:33
Ballantine, myself, Lance Finale, Acho and Basil Bass, EIA
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Operative Blacklist, actor and author.
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I started Bing watching. I love it.
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You know how that goes? Well, if you smile.
00:41:00
I got him a smile. There you go.
00:41:03
You know, you just said something while we were
00:41:07
backstage. We talked about open border
00:41:09
policy. We've had many on this show, you
00:41:12
know, Ben Burkwell, Oscar L Blue, you know, Ann Vanderschel,
00:41:15
do some more done there. Michael Yan.
00:41:17
These are all friends of ours. They've been on the border
00:41:19
exposing what happened, the criminal exposure of the
00:41:23
southern border. Not too many people talk about
00:41:26
the northern border. It's nearly just as bad.
00:41:28
There's AVIP service we talked about on the show.
00:41:31
I have a source that's dealt with the cartels and and
00:41:34
different cartels for years. He's given me information over
00:41:38
the years about different things going on and he's talked about
00:41:41
the VIP service that the cartels offered for $100.
00:41:44
They give you guaranteed entrance into the United States.
00:41:47
A lot of that VIP service goes to the northern border.
00:41:50
But you have done something. You've taken your skill set,
00:41:53
you, you've done it. I, I think for all the right
00:41:55
reasons. You created the Association for
00:41:57
the Recovery of Children and now you were just talking about you
00:42:02
trying to move something forward in Congress.
00:42:04
I want, I want you to go into this.
00:42:05
Well, this is such a great transition for you.
00:42:09
And, and I can't imagine a guy better, better skilled for this
00:42:12
operation, but we know that the human trafficking and child
00:42:15
trafficking is much worse than any administration has ever
00:42:19
discussed, even Donald Trump. It's horrendous.
00:42:23
We had a lot of people that that were whistleblowers that came on
00:42:26
the show. They've testified in front of
00:42:29
Congress about missing children, not not only the US children,
00:42:32
but of course, you know, children coming across the
00:42:35
border, being brought in through cartels and then sold off into
00:42:38
indentured service or into sex trade.
00:42:41
Let's go into this a little bit and kind of tell me, how did you
00:42:44
decide this is what you wanted to do, how you drawn into and
00:42:47
kind of maybe talk about that border bill you just introduced?
00:42:51
Yeah, thank you, Mogadishu. In 1993, most people know that
00:42:55
from the Black Hawk Down incident that happened.
00:43:00
I was, we were there, I was there with the center spike
00:43:02
team, a few Marines and we rescued a couple we're not from
00:43:07
that area. And then got them to say like
00:43:12
there's a long story with it. But I'll just do the short
00:43:14
version. Most of the kids that we saw are
00:43:18
most of the bodies you see during any type of civil war is
00:43:22
just kind of given this collateral damage.
00:43:25
It's just, you know, it's not that you like because you're
00:43:28
moving forward on your mission. And in this case, we wrestled
00:43:32
with the idea of saving these little girls, but we things
00:43:38
opened up and we did. We went and rescued them and got
00:43:40
them back. And when I got back to the
00:43:41
States, it's the first time in my life, Lance, I ever even
00:43:47
asked what happens to children. I don't know.
00:43:50
I don't know what I don't know what transitioned in my heart at
00:43:55
that time. I, I remember sitting, I
00:43:56
remember, you know, I remember having a conversation with God
00:44:00
in Africa and looking up at, you know, sky blanket with billions
00:44:04
of stars. And I just said, God, why?
00:44:07
And it's clear that I created you.
00:44:11
And I think what he was saying was not that he just created me,
00:44:14
but he created people to, to get in the fight, so to speak.
00:44:18
So I got back to the States and I realized that kids didn't grow
00:44:22
up like me. They didn't all go to elementary
00:44:24
school, high school and have a nice family and going to college
00:44:28
and get a job. And that time there were 2000
00:44:31
American children missing. And when I talked to my law
00:44:33
enforcement partners, they said they're just missing.
00:44:36
We, we don't know where they are.
00:44:37
And the word trafficking wasn't a big term being used back then.
00:44:41
And, and I, I kept and saying, well, yeah, but where, where are
00:44:46
they missing? How are they missing?
00:44:47
They're like, look, we don't know.
00:44:49
We just Scrabble off as missing kids.
00:44:51
Like we have terrorism, we have bank robberies, we have fraud,
00:44:55
we have homicides. These are all the priorities.
00:44:56
And kids were kind of at the bottom of the list.
00:44:59
So I'm 93 to 96 on my holidays, I would go out quietly.
00:45:07
I didn't, yeah. I didn't mention it to anybody
00:45:10
in the agency. I-96 I I figured, well, I could
00:45:16
do this and it needs to be done and it it became something
00:45:20
bigger than overthrowing small governments for me.
00:45:22
And I found based on some of the stuff Lance, you and I were
00:45:25
talking, you know, about all the corruption seen and how the
00:45:29
politics are playing in and other things.
00:45:32
And I thought, wow, this is far greater because these children
00:45:35
are the future of our country and they're unblemished to some
00:45:38
degree outside of their perpetrators, what their
00:45:41
perpetrators mean. They're, you know, they, they
00:45:44
haven't been corrupted by other things like aside and stuff.
00:45:49
So that's how we got started. 96 I jumped ship and started this
00:45:53
full time. And so far, I think we're now
00:45:56
one of the oldest running rescue organizations in America by
00:46:01
going after and sex trafficking. You know, you got 100% success
00:46:06
rate, which is pretty incredible.
00:46:10
I mean, almost unbelievable really.
00:46:12
And you know, and even that I'm sure you, you do, you feel like
00:46:15
you're, you've only been able to, you just impact such a small
00:46:18
segment of it because there's so much of it.
00:46:21
Do you struggle with that at all?
00:46:22
Because the, the, the tough part for me, I, when I hear about
00:46:26
human trafficking or pedophilia or people like, you know,
00:46:30
Epstein, man, I have to be honest.
00:46:33
And George knows I struggle with this a lot.
00:46:35
I, there's a lot of dark thoughts to come to mind.
00:46:37
Some of them include an industrial wood chipper.
00:46:40
And you know, the, the, the mindset I have is that you can't
00:46:44
fix those people. They're unfixable because I
00:46:48
believe that, that, that decision, because for, for the
00:46:50
people that don't, you know, this whole thing about maps
00:46:53
that, that trying to neutralize and, and, and, and make it
00:46:57
mainstream, coming up with minor attracted persons.
00:47:01
You know, I'm, I'm really disgusted by all of it.
00:47:03
You know, it's, it's one of those things that I, I think
00:47:05
it's a simple solution, you know, life sentences, death
00:47:08
sentences, because I think these are the kind of people, when you
00:47:10
look at the mental health crisis in the United States and I look
00:47:13
at the, the brainwashing that's allowed to happen.
00:47:16
I am not a fan of TikTok, you know, I know there's some decent
00:47:20
content that shows up on there, but I truly believe it's a
00:47:22
Chinese operation and its intent to undermine the youth in the
00:47:25
country. You know, the idea that licking
00:47:29
a toilet bowl for a challenge is a top priority to get views and
00:47:33
clicks. Or some of these these people
00:47:36
that are, you know, gender influencing our children.
00:47:40
They're trying to groom them at such an early age and they get
00:47:42
on their men dressed as women and tell them, oh, you can talk
00:47:45
to me, but you don't need to talk to your father or what's
00:47:47
happening in the school systems. We covered a story that George
00:47:51
and I sometimes bring up. It was a the, what was it
00:47:54
called? The Rainbow Butt Monkey?
00:47:56
George, was that right? Don't bring that shit up.
00:47:59
The Rainbow Butt Monkey was somebody that was hired to, to
00:48:03
do storytelling at the, at the, the local library.
00:48:09
And I thought about this, this, that the idea that this this
00:48:12
butt monkey that had a naked butt and actually had a large
00:48:16
dildo hanging from him, that this was supposed to be somebody
00:48:18
that was going to be reading books to our children.
00:48:21
And I thought about who came up with this garbage.
00:48:24
What's really the plan? It's got to be a much more
00:48:26
nefarious operation. And this is where I'm leading
00:48:29
with this question for you, as you've done this recovery, how
00:48:33
organized do you feel like this is?
00:48:36
And how high does it go up in our government?
00:48:38
Because that is one thing that the mainstream media never wants
00:48:41
to discuss. It's always swept under the rug,
00:48:44
not, you know, the Epstein situation that they, they're
00:48:48
doing everything they can to hide it.
00:48:49
I heard from a very, very, you know, a guy that I trust, he was
00:48:54
in every one of the raids. They came out of there with
00:48:57
Israeli technology was what they were using for surveillance.
00:49:01
We know that Elaine Maxwell had access through her father to the
00:49:05
Mossad. I always believed that Epstein's
00:49:07
entire operation was blackmail, influence peddling and of
00:49:10
course, extortion and bribery. It was all about that.
00:49:14
I don't think the guy ever made a legitimate dollar, but I think
00:49:16
he, he got people, he compromised them and then he
00:49:19
took videos and surveillance and audio.
00:49:21
But they're acting like now all of a sudden Cash Patel and
00:49:24
others have come out and said, oh, I don't think there really
00:49:25
is any of that, which I, I know that not to be true for fact.
00:49:31
How much, how much have you seen that you think the operations,
00:49:34
it isn't just one child missing, that these are operations that
00:49:36
lead all the way back up into the the higher echelons of our
00:49:39
federal government? Well, I'm going to address that,
00:49:47
but if let me address this first.
00:49:52
The purpose of losing children's identity is to not only
00:49:56
breakdown the family union, America, but to destroy the
00:49:59
fabric of America, children of the future.
00:50:03
So the process in doing that revolves all around all those
00:50:10
things that you're talking about minor attractive persons.
00:50:13
We we if we normalize, we normalize things in our society,
00:50:19
people get so used to it and you're able to proceed with it.
00:50:24
And so these are they're important aspects of children
00:50:36
have become such a commodity for multiple reasons, money
00:50:41
laundering, evil lust, human lust and the list goes on and on
00:50:49
and on. So what has happened in America
00:50:53
outside of just deviant laws, you know, deviant lifestyles, is
00:51:01
that at the highest level of not only governments, but outside of
00:51:06
governments with people that have retired from governments,
00:51:11
they make a lot of money. They launder a lot of money
00:51:15
through whatever commodity is the biggest seller.
00:51:20
And children are the biggest commodity for sale around the
00:51:23
world, whether it's for sex, whether it's for organ
00:51:25
harvesting, whether it's for adrenochrome or whatever it may
00:51:28
be. And so I can tell you about
00:51:33
about divulging some some very sensitive information, but there
00:51:37
are people that are are at the top of the food chain that
00:51:43
necessarily do not represent a government, but represent an
00:51:47
industry that makes all of this move Child sick trafficking.
00:51:53
If you look at what came across the border that, you know,
00:51:56
common sense that just didn't happen overnight.
00:51:59
It was orchestrated. That means people took meetings.
00:52:01
This means people had conversations.
00:52:03
That means people supply transportation.
00:52:05
It means money. They exchanged hands between
00:52:08
cartel and US personnel to make it all work.
00:52:13
It means you had to put stops in place.
00:52:16
You had to put people inside. You had to have a coordinated
00:52:19
effort and a communication system that would be undisturbed
00:52:24
so that you could continue to have your way.
00:52:27
Most people don't know this, but you know, when we brought a lot
00:52:29
of those children in, you know, they were given to MVM, Catholic
00:52:33
Charities. Why is the CIA a part of MVM?
00:52:37
And MVM was what? You transported the kids across
00:52:39
America and into Europe. Why did we take kids over to
00:52:43
Europe? None of it makes sense.
00:52:45
So what about that money? How many billions of dollars
00:52:48
were laundered so that that could happen?
00:52:51
And what was the purpose of that?
00:52:52
Was it so that we would have one day kids here that we don't vote
00:52:56
Democrats? Was it because there was money
00:52:59
being made and they didn't really care about the kids?
00:53:01
Or where are the 500 UAC 500 UA CS, and where the 438, if
00:53:07
that's the exact number American children were missing before
00:53:11
that, we don't see a million children just walking the
00:53:13
streets. So the question is, what's
00:53:15
happening to them? What happened to the commodity?
00:53:18
Where is the commodity? If you look at HHS, they had a
00:53:21
lot of data on that. Most people don't know this.
00:53:24
So when the Biden administration left office, they corrupted that
00:53:27
data. Question is, why did they do
00:53:30
that? Now we're having to go back into
00:53:32
HHS, certain people and, you know, fix all of that so that we
00:53:37
can find out where they did go. We know that a lot of kids, we
00:53:41
know this for a fact. A lot of kids were brought in.
00:53:43
They were dropped off to MS13. They were dropped off the
00:53:46
pedophiles. They were dropped off to
00:53:47
sponsors who were not their family members.
00:53:50
So when I look back and we were the first team on the ground for
00:53:53
the night flights that came in in Chattanooga, TN, they were
00:53:56
bringing children in. And I coordinated some of the
00:54:00
operation with TBI, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.
00:54:04
And they said, no, it's on the up and up.
00:54:05
The governor knows, only to have the governor a week later say, I
00:54:08
didn't know anything about this. So, and sent a report up to ICE
00:54:12
and ICE responded and said the Biden administration is in
00:54:15
charge of this and it's held his hands off.
00:54:18
So the truth of it is, is the Biden administration, including
00:54:24
the president, the vice president and whoever else
00:54:26
authorized it in HHS are listen in.
00:54:33
The crime of child sex trafficking or child trafficking
00:54:36
wasn't something that was approved.
00:54:38
Congress didn't vote on it. The American people didn't vote
00:54:40
on it. And now the mystery is why.
00:54:43
Why? You know, we're still digging in
00:54:45
to find out why. Hey, Baz, if you had any
00:54:47
interaction, she's been on her show.
00:54:49
We're we're friends with her. We we've done everything we can
00:54:51
to support and move Tara Rodas. Tara's a very good friend of
00:54:54
mine, she and I. She was actually up in DC with
00:54:57
me in this last meeting with and Congresswoman Nancy Mason's
00:55:02
office. Yeah, we've had all her people
00:55:04
and her group on the show. We've jumped in and done as much
00:55:07
as we can to expose it. You know, it's it's a struggle
00:55:10
though, right? We, you know, you and I could
00:55:13
look at that and say this is definitely an operation.
00:55:16
People at the highest levels of our government are involved.
00:55:18
Doesn't mean the government's involved.
00:55:19
It means that those individuals are involved and they're using
00:55:21
their power and influence to grease the skids.
00:55:24
You know, there was a story that I heard from somebody in the
00:55:28
know during the El Chapo hearing.
00:55:32
He started to vocalize all the individuals he had given money
00:55:37
to it within the US government. And then they cleared the
00:55:41
courtroom and they stopped him dead in his tracks.
00:55:43
We also covered a lot of the stories.
00:55:45
And what's interesting that a lot of people don't recognize is
00:55:48
that the open border made the cartels so much money.
00:55:54
They have lifted their game. We got some stuff that we
00:55:57
covered from that one source. I was telling you, these guys
00:56:00
look like the best special forces operators.
00:56:02
Now they are equipped beyond equipped.
00:56:04
They've got AP VS from South Africa.
00:56:07
They bought, you know, lots of weapons from Afghanistan right
00:56:10
off the dark web. You know, Barretts that have all
00:56:12
been traced back that we've seen this, the, the serial numbers go
00:56:16
right back to the US government. You know, they've got the quad
00:56:18
mono goggles, they've got cell phone jammers, you know,
00:56:22
sophisticated multi antennae jammers that you know, I'm, I'm
00:56:25
talking about the big units that cost, you know, 40-50, a 100
00:56:29
each in the back of SUV. They're running in teams.
00:56:31
They're getting trained by some of the best contractors from
00:56:34
around the world. People don't really recognize
00:56:37
that that money has also escalated this to a whole
00:56:41
different level. You know, George, he mentioned
00:56:44
something. I know this is a hot to try
00:56:46
topic. For you I've been waiting for
00:56:48
this one yeah so bad I mean they'll call us conspiracy
00:56:52
theorists and I'm OK with that label because 99.9% we're we've
00:56:56
been right I want to ask you about adrenochrome because I've
00:57:01
you you can there's places that even sell it but I've seen cars
00:57:04
in other countries with bumper stickers you know for Unicron
00:57:07
coal here what's your take on it and then are people like you
00:57:13
know Hillary Clinton and other notable scumbag politicians and
00:57:17
this is on both sides are they are they taking it like what do
00:57:21
you got I. Don't know if they're taking it,
00:57:23
but I do know the first, first introduction to it, we had a a
00:57:27
girl we rescued and she was giving her her story to us.
00:57:31
We were right putting in a, an Intel package.
00:57:34
And she talked about how she'd been taken to a building, how it
00:57:37
looked like a hospital, how they had hooked her up with
00:57:42
electrodes, how they had blood coming out of one arm into the
00:57:44
other arm, and how they would shock her.
00:57:48
And she didn't know what it was all about.
00:57:49
And when she was telling us the story, we didn't know what that
00:57:51
was all about either. We thought, wow, it's like
00:57:53
torture. Why would somebody do that only
00:57:56
to find out about a year later about adrenochrome and going,
00:58:01
wow, that's what they were doing.
00:58:03
So the product is real. You can buy it on the black
00:58:06
market. People know how to get it.
00:58:09
Suppose you know, blood drinking has been around for thousands of
00:58:12
years when it comes to giving you strength and beauty and anti
00:58:16
aging. I can't tell you what Hillary
00:58:18
Clinton does or doesn't do with that, but I will tell you this.
00:58:23
It's not working for her if she's doing it but.
00:58:25
Well, that was my next. This is my next.
00:58:28
She's actually inside. Out this is my.
00:58:31
This is my next question. It might not be working because
00:58:34
ever since Epstein's island was and Epstein was taken down, I
00:58:37
think their supply kind of dried out for them.
00:58:42
So yeah, what what what's your, what's your, you got any
00:58:45
experience on Epstein Island knowing like who was there, what
00:58:48
was going on? We were we were punching the
00:58:51
Epstein case 15 years before it got blown up and no one would
00:58:56
listen to us. And that's the way it generally
00:58:58
is with a lot of good NGOs in the field that have access to
00:59:01
intelligence. They're trying to get it going
00:59:03
and no one wants to listen and no one wants to listen.
00:59:05
And eventually something like this happens and we go, yeah,
00:59:09
see, we told you it's a, here's a, here's a good one for you.
00:59:14
I have a file that someone that's no longer in the federal
00:59:18
government gave me of Nancy Pelosi standing next to the
00:59:20
cartel. Question is, why won't anybody
00:59:22
do anything about that? How is it that it went and Obama
00:59:26
saw it and he switched it? So, you know, there's another
00:59:30
one that we have to we have to look into as well.
00:59:33
You know, so there is. Yeah.
00:59:35
How? About that birth certificate,
00:59:36
you know, how about the fact that he never should have been
00:59:39
president of the United States? His own brothers called out.
00:59:42
Lots of information, You know, You know.
00:59:45
How about the fact that the aircraft that brought the
00:59:47
children in was was bankrupt five years earlier and now all
00:59:51
of a sudden they're flying kids in?
00:59:53
And guess who's the shareholders are?
00:59:54
BlackRock and Vanguard. Would you like a list of all the
00:59:57
senators in Congress that have investments in BlackRock and
01:00:00
Vanguard? We got that too, so.
01:00:02
Yeah, I think BlackRock and Vanguard is a much more
01:00:05
dangerous institution. I had some interactions with
01:00:08
them years and years and years ago.
01:00:10
And I think that people are underestimating what they're
01:00:13
really up to. And to me, I, I wouldn't allow
01:00:17
it to go on, but I'd probably be called a dictator.
01:00:20
I'm one of those guys that would, you know, I wouldn't ask
01:00:22
for permission. I, you know, I would, you know,
01:00:26
hope that maybe the American people would understand after I
01:00:28
expose it. I want to make sure we give you
01:00:31
some time. You're a public speaker and all
01:00:33
this. Website's up.
01:00:34
Yeah, I wanna listen cuz, man, we could go on and on and on.
01:00:37
We're gonna. We definitely need to have you
01:00:38
back on the show, maybe bring it on our radio show also, because
01:00:42
I got, I got to tell you, there's so much that you and I
01:00:43
think I probably, we could probably talk about and compare
01:00:45
notes. So let's talk about so you, you,
01:00:49
you clearly you got this incredible operation art going
01:00:53
on. You're you're doing motivational
01:00:55
speaking, but let's talk about the acting.
01:00:56
I'm sure everybody wants to know about Blacklist.
01:00:58
How did that come about that you kind of we, because I'm, I'm
01:01:01
assuming that maybe you were an advisor on some sets 1st and
01:01:04
then they started to recognize that you were much more than an
01:01:07
advisor, that you had a lot of potential.
01:01:09
Yeah, thanks. Yeah, I had a career.
01:01:11
That's how I pay the bills. As many people know, ARC doesn't
01:01:14
get a paycheck for what we do, and we don't pay salaries.
01:01:17
So I require everybody to go do something else to make a living.
01:01:21
Mine just happened to be in the film industry that got started
01:01:24
in the early 90s and and so on this case for the blacklist, I
01:01:30
was actually spending more more of our time buy out in the field
01:01:33
operations. And the executive producer
01:01:35
Michael Watkins, great guy. He's the guy that actually saved
01:01:38
the show because most people don't know this the show, the
01:01:42
first six months of the show, it was going in the toilet pass.
01:01:45
So they called in Michael. And by the way, the guy that
01:01:47
Michael relieved got arrested as a pedophile for being a
01:01:51
pedophile. Are you talking about the
01:01:52
Blacklist show? Yeah, yeah.
01:01:54
Really. It didn't kick off for that
01:01:56
while in the beginning? Wow.
01:01:57
No, no it didn't. Not at 1st.
01:01:58
And so Mike came in. And so Mike called me up one day
01:02:02
and he said, hey, we've got this warehouse scene.
01:02:05
They're going to take down a warehouse.
01:02:06
I'm wondering if you could come in and teach our stuntmen how to
01:02:09
how to do this. And I said, well, look, I got 1
01:02:13
better than that. What if I just call my own guys
01:02:14
then and, and we just do it for you.
01:02:17
And he's like, wow, Because what would that cost us?
01:02:20
I said, I don't know, just feed them, put them in a hotel,
01:02:23
that's it. So I called a guy from
01:02:24
Afghanistan I know the guy from. And so I rallied up with a few
01:02:28
of my guys that were all out in the field contracting Lance like
01:02:31
you'd been doing. And they came in and we shot the
01:02:35
scene pretty much all in one or two takes and had a great time
01:02:41
doing it. Mike was just amazing.
01:02:44
He just said go map it out for me at lunchtime and tell me what
01:02:47
I need to shoot. And I had known Mike for many,
01:02:49
many years. And so we came back, we shot it
01:02:54
about a week later, maybe 2 weeks later, I think 2 weeks
01:02:56
later, Mike, call me up he goes, you know what, NBC saw you in
01:03:02
the editing Bay and they want to know, would you like to come
01:03:05
back and be Co star on the show as the head of Red Remington's
01:03:08
mercenary? I was like, OK, sure.
01:03:11
Do I have to say anything? He goes, well I can't, I don't
01:03:13
know what you'll have to say. So anyway, I got on the show
01:03:16
that way and I had 4 great seasons with some amazing
01:03:19
people. The show was great.
01:03:21
I, I can't say enough good about James Spader and and everybody
01:03:24
else. So that's how I ended up on the
01:03:26
show. Yes, Spader has done a really
01:03:28
interesting job. You know, years ago, I used to
01:03:30
do a lot of on ground logistics and I, I ended up with this, one
01:03:33
of my, one of my call signs was the hand of God because I used
01:03:36
to be able to go into operations and when things went missing,
01:03:39
like comms or other gear and equipment, I, I created a pretty
01:03:44
decent network of people around the globe and I dealt with lots
01:03:46
of individuals, drug Lords and you name it.
01:03:50
And I was able to always find what we needed.
01:03:52
And it was always kind of one of those last second, like, uh oh,
01:03:54
where is this? We need this.
01:03:57
And, but it was interesting watching Spader because I've
01:03:59
always thought that the ability to do what he did and the way it
01:04:03
was presented, and I'm sure some of that came from you because we
01:04:06
all know about those individuals you met over the years, myself
01:04:09
included, where there's people that you know, that could get
01:04:12
something when you needed it might not have been through, you
01:04:14
know, legal, a legal network, but you really recognize that,
01:04:17
hey, I know who to call. You probably know somebody here,
01:04:19
give me 15 minutes and I'll, I'll, I'll be back with you guys
01:04:22
in a minute and tell you if I was able to pull this off.
01:04:25
But I thought that was such a great premise.
01:04:27
How much of that came from your background?
01:04:28
Because you know, when you're on the ground as an operative or
01:04:31
you're working as a contractor, there are lots of things that go
01:04:35
on that you have to fix on the fly.
01:04:38
You have to be a problem solver, not a problem causer.
01:04:41
And how much of that came from you?
01:04:43
Because it seemed like when I watched that, there was a friend
01:04:46
of mine that loved that show. He actually told me, hey, this
01:04:48
guy from Blacklist is you got to watch this.
01:04:50
I think it's a lot like you this because he knew my background.
01:04:54
He said you got to see this. I think they might have, they
01:04:56
might have used you as part of the casting.
01:04:58
He was joking around, of course. How much of that came from you?
01:05:00
Because it seemed like a lot. Yeah.
01:05:03
You know what's interesting? Well, actually less than you
01:05:07
would imagine booking camp. And those guys did a great job.
01:05:10
Now, I would in Mike's office, I would offer some things up, but
01:05:15
they pretty much let me run how I would run an operation, you
01:05:20
know, on on camera, just do my thing, so to speak.
01:05:23
And and, and, and they knew it was solid, but I have to give
01:05:29
credit really to the writers. I, I'd love to be the one to say
01:05:33
they called me in as an advisor on this and that show was
01:05:36
everything I gave, but that wasn't it.
01:05:38
I don't know where they were getting their content from, but
01:05:40
I will say this, and it's fascinating.
01:05:42
You know, they talked about Deep State.
01:05:44
I mean, I, these guys had it down.
01:05:46
They really had it down. They.
01:05:47
Really did. Because and they knew and a
01:05:50
couple times I had people come to me and go would say, so is
01:05:53
that how it's really done? And it's like, yeah, I don't
01:05:56
know how you guys know that, but yeah, that's how it's done.
01:05:58
You know, there was an individual, there was an
01:06:01
individual that a lot of governments dealt with years
01:06:04
ago, guy named, and you might know this name, Monzar Alcazar,
01:06:07
the Peacock out of Belgium. Yeah.
01:06:10
And it's, it's interesting that I always thought about that
01:06:14
because through him I was able to make a lot of contacts that I
01:06:17
used usually. And I always thought that when I
01:06:19
watched that show, I thought, you know, it's interesting,
01:06:21
Whoever's advising them has really gotten so much of this
01:06:24
correct, that that's how those networks at the higher levels
01:06:28
really worked. And I, I thought that a lot of
01:06:30
the people in the public probably were like, no, come on,
01:06:32
this is how could that be? But in fact, it was accurate
01:06:35
because it, I, I would imagine that if you left, if you and I
01:06:38
sat down, we had Sarah Adams on the show.
01:06:41
You know, she was Acia, you know, Overwatch or you kind of
01:06:45
know her background. I I imagine if we sat down with
01:06:47
a piece of paper and you made a list of different individuals,
01:06:50
you're like, Oh yeah, here's a guy somebody should look into or
01:06:52
here's another guy. That network is like that.
01:06:54
And I think a lot of people didn't recognize it.
01:06:56
You and you did an amazing job on the show.
01:06:59
And I think the authenticity you brought was really spot on.
01:07:03
And I always respect that. There's something I hate worse
01:07:06
than a gunfight with an unlimited, you know, magazine,
01:07:09
you know, or, or watching guys, you know, do a room entry and
01:07:13
you know, you could see that they would have been shooting
01:07:15
each other by the way they did it, you know, So the the
01:07:18
accuracy that you provided, at least I I always appreciate
01:07:21
that, I guess, and maybe old, old operative or old pipe
01:07:24
hitters, you know, and I'll speak for myself.
01:07:26
There's nothing I can't stand worse than watching it.
01:07:29
A fight interaction that isn't that is not correct.
01:07:33
You, you're like, no, no, you. You'd be dead.
01:07:37
Yeah, it was good. They gave me good liberty to for
01:07:40
accuracy. I think that was important to
01:07:42
everybody. But yeah, just like, just like
01:07:45
you're saying, I think they did an amazing job.
01:07:47
I was, I was actually amazed when I finally had a chance to
01:07:50
go back and look at some of the episodes and the storylines.
01:07:54
It's like, wow. And what's so interesting about
01:07:57
that is it was almost, it was almost prophetic because after
01:08:01
we came out of the first couple of seasons of the Blacklist, we
01:08:04
started taking a look at the country differently and then
01:08:07
where Deep state started coming out and the ball started being
01:08:10
used. And so ironically, it is where
01:08:13
we are right today. You know, we need another James
01:08:17
Spader to be honest with you, another another red Redington.
01:08:20
Honestly, you know, when we're talking about accountability,
01:08:22
because what they want to do is what they always do.
01:08:25
If they can hold off on accountability by two
01:08:29
generations, the new generations coming up won't care.
01:08:32
For example, if I were to tell you, hey, we know who
01:08:34
assassinated Abraham Lincoln. It was these five individuals
01:08:39
and they were part of the Democratic Party.
01:08:41
Who would care if I, well, that wasn't in my time.
01:08:44
And, and, and we've gotten better since then.
01:08:47
And we didn't have any control over that.
01:08:48
And they do that every single time.
01:08:50
That's what that's what Hillary does.
01:08:51
That's what she's doing. She's getting, she's trying to
01:08:54
string out everything and and other people as well to the
01:08:58
point that they'll be a generation that doesn't even
01:09:00
know who she is. So when they end up in a
01:09:03
position like on a trial or as a judge, whatever, it doesn't mean
01:09:07
anything to them because people aren't about taking evidence and
01:09:12
holding people accountable for their crimes any longer.
01:09:15
You know, if George or myself, George, I'm going to throw to
01:09:19
you if, if, if you and I used bleach bit and a hammer to get
01:09:23
rid of evidence. But you know, we know what that
01:09:25
would be, right? You know, fucking just lock us
01:09:27
up and throw away the key. Are you kidding me?
01:09:30
Yeah, you know, and that's the thing about it when, when they
01:09:32
come after. You we'll be labeled domestic
01:09:35
terrorist too, because we had classified information on a
01:09:39
personal server. Yeah, you know, and that's the
01:09:42
thing, you know, and, and that's what I think that I, I struggle
01:09:46
with, even with with the Trump administration, we've been a big
01:09:48
supporter. I was hopeful that we would see,
01:09:51
you know, through Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi, Cash Patel and
01:09:54
others. I thought we'd see more
01:09:55
accountability and I thought we'd see it more swiftly because
01:09:58
there's a lot of things that I don't think take an incredible
01:10:01
amount of work. They've got the evidence.
01:10:03
You know, it's kind of like what they're finding now.
01:10:04
They covered up everything about the Chinese and the elections.
01:10:07
Well, George and I covered that maybe a year and a half two
01:10:10
years ago. We, we, we, we had photos, we
01:10:12
got a hold of, we worked pretty closely with the NFSC, which is
01:10:15
the anti Communist Party, you know, the new federal state of
01:10:18
China. And we got copies of photos and
01:10:21
all sorts of stuff about these places that were printing
01:10:23
ballots and the places that were providing IDs.
01:10:26
And we talked about it, the counterfeit ID operations, the
01:10:28
counterfeit ballot operations. And, you know, and, and, and,
01:10:31
and other than our audience, it was crickets.
01:10:34
You know, it doesn't. There's an operation I know
01:10:36
about. I've got a source.
01:10:38
They, they keep talking about their, their big plan here is to
01:10:40
seal up the southern border and they've got a plan, of course.
01:10:43
And, and you know, the, the tariffs are going to stop the
01:10:45
Chinese from bringing in the precursors or fentanyl,
01:10:48
carfentanyl, methamphetamine. Well, the Chinese don't care.
01:10:51
They've got a second operation already set up in Asia that
01:10:54
they've got legitimate pharmaceutical companies that
01:10:57
with billions in offshore accounts.
01:10:59
I've got all the information. I've got a source that I can
01:11:01
bring to them. I sent some information in.
01:11:04
Crickets, you know, and that's, that's the tricky part, you
01:11:07
know, you wonder what's going to make a difference.
01:11:09
Listen, Baz, we're out of time for today.
01:11:11
But first of all, man, we got to have you back on the show.
01:11:14
I think there's so much to talk about with you and I don't think
01:11:16
we did it. Fair.
01:11:17
Take one second, George. I'm going to do one thing, Baz.
01:11:19
Tell them where to find you on social media, where they can buy
01:11:22
your books and where they can get involved.
01:11:23
Maybe with ARK really quickly. Well, thank you.
01:11:25
Ark is recovery of children.org is our website,
01:11:29
recoveryofchildren.com. We'll give you to where our
01:11:32
training classes are. We have some of those the six
01:11:35
day fight child trafficking equipping course, bossbooks.com,
01:11:39
you can buy the books and Basel Dash boss.com.
01:11:42
We'll take you to my personal website.
01:11:45
So thank you guys for having me. I appreciate.
01:11:46
It man, love the interview. Stick around for a minute.
01:11:48
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01:12:26
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01:12:29
That's what happens at the end of the day.
01:12:31
Thank you guys so much for joining us.
01:12:32
Basil badge find him on social media.
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Follow him. I think this guy is going to be
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01:12:39
we actually need in government. We need involved and we need him
01:12:42
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01:12:45
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