A PEN To CHANGE The WORLD, JK Rowling |EP855
The Big Mig ShowJune 10, 2026
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A PEN To CHANGE The WORLD, JK Rowling |EP855

THE BIG MIG SHOW

JUNE 10, 2026 

EPISODE 855 – 11AM

 

Author Solomon Schmidt is 23 years old and has been described as a “prodigy.” He wrote his first book, U.S. History Bites, at the age of 12, with the goal of helping young people become excited about learning U.S. history. https://www.solomonschmidt.com/

 

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[00:00:00] All men are created equal, but they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. By Liberty and the Beautiful. If Liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

[00:00:33] America, great again. The Big Mig. Well, welcome back to The Big Mig Show. Of course, I'm your host, Lance Migliaccio, with my co-host, George Ballantyne. It's Rise and Grind, Tip of the Spear. You know how we do it on this show. Each and every episode, we try to cover the facts, the sauce, the evidence, the receipts. You know, we're not mainstream media. We try to bring in the top interviews.

[00:01:00] Some of them might be interviews that maybe other shows aren't going to cover because they don't want to put out the facts. So that's how we do it. If you're joining us for the first time, hit that follow button, hit the subscribe button. Get into the $5 paid subscription. If you love the show, leave a comment. Man, don't be shy. You guys get in the chat. Get with the Big Mig Mafia. Get in here with the mods. You know, enjoy the company. Get to know people. That's what it's all about, right? Educating and unifying the country. One episode is done. George Ballantyne. Yes. Big B.

[00:01:30] What's up, bro? I'm going to get a little closer because your head's looking gigantic compared to me right now. I don't know what you did. No, well, I redid the studio yesterday. I did a bunch of stuff. And now is not the time to be messing with you. You should have did that yesterday, bro. Make sure everything's working right. You don't need me. I do sometimes. No. Anyway, I'm doing all right, guys. You complete me, George. You complete me, bro. I want a divorce. This relationship is not going to be. I don't think I want a second divorce. I'm going to try to keep one relationship.

[00:01:59] Listen, might as well go for two for. Two for one. Yeah. Why not? So what's going on, bro? Nothing. No, how was your weekend? Lance, it's Wednesday. Oh, I guess. Yeah, I guess you're right. I don't even know what day it is. I need a drug test. Yeah, maybe a caffeine. No, a drug test. All right. So we're joined today by Solomon Schmidt. Interesting guy. He's a prodigy. I was kind of surprised when I started reading about him.

[00:02:28] Age 12, wrote a book called U.S. History Bites. He's trying to help young people become excited about learning U.S. history. He got national attention for that book. He was featured on Fox and Friends. He's published nine more books. It's not an easy feat. I've been doing some writing myself. I've been publishing my first books. I'm self-publishing. You learn a lot. Let's put it that way. It doesn't matter whether it's formatting. You've got to know about IngramSpark. You've got to know about ISBNs. If you're an author, you know what all that crap is. But there's a lot of it.

[00:02:58] A lot more than you would think to get a book all the way out. Of course, if you want to do e-books, softcover, hardcover, you know, it's really a complicated deal. But I'm sure at nine books, he knows how to do all of it. So he's got History Byte Series. He's got Legal Gladiator. And he's got the authorized biography of Alan Dershowitz. And his new biography on J.K. Rowling, A Pen to Change the World, getting a lot of accolades and some pushback from people that aren't really thrilled about what he's uncovered.

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[00:04:51] 888-526-7154. TheBigMigBar.com. Make sure if you call them, you tell them The Big Mig Show sent you. All right. I'm not noticing that because I've got to bring Solomon on because you screwed up. By the way, thank you to The Mike Schwartz Show for rating us, Dr. Mike Schwartz. Make sure you give him a follow and subscribe if you can. All right. Let me get this gentleman in here. All right. Welcome to The Big Mig Show. Well, a lot more than that. Families, homeschool families, because it was primarily homeschool conferences.

[00:05:21] I myself was homeschooled from fifth grade to graduation. So we were going to conferences and I was standing on concrete for three days at a time at these conferences in a warehouse with a booth selling the books, selling my History Bites series and then had appearances on Fox and Friends and other shows. So it wasn't all in-person sales. But yeah, book selling is a slog, you know? Well, it's tough. For a lot of people, they don't know what the numbers really are. We always hear about the New York Times bestsellers.

[00:05:51] But for everyone else, you're trying to get exposure and it's not just enough. You know, that's something that I don't know. Maybe you and I'll pick your brain about. I don't have the ability to drive all over the country to promote. I'm going to use the shows and I'm going to try to use some AI, sophisticated versions of AI. Now, of course, you didn't have that when you wrote the book. Right. So I just bought an Asus GX10 for George and I on the show. Great. One of the big new AI supercomputers can do as a pedophile up the data.

[00:06:20] But the point is, it's complicated for self-publishing. Yes. And I'm impressed at 12. Were your parents helping you a lot or did you just slog your way through? Yeah. Well, my mom had been giving me books from the time I was literally inside her stomach. And my dad, it was a self-made businessman. He lived the American dream. We hear a lot about the American dream. He came from a pretty fairly poor family and built himself up through real estate business over time, over decades. And so he was always supporting my passions.

[00:06:50] My mom was giving me lots of books to read. And I just fell in love with American history from the time I was a little kid. And so when I wanted to write a book for kids my age, I had a lot of the stories already in my head. Christopher Columbus and the Civil War and World War II and the Cuban Missile Crisis and what have you. And then with my future books, I poured a lot of time and effort into research. And, of course, I did that for the first book, too.

[00:07:15] But, yeah, amazing parents, real dynamic duo, very, very driven, passionate, committed parents. Lance, they're not paying me to say any of this. They're not listening right now. I'm sure they'll watch us later. They don't sponsor you? They do. Yeah, yeah. My dad does. Oh, sure. Yeah. And we've been blessed. I mean, we've gone all over the world together, Lance. My family and I, my dad and I have been on all seven continents filming for my History Bites YouTube channel.

[00:07:42] Because I have a YouTube channel that ties into my History Bites series. We were in Antarctica back in January filming about Ernest Shackleton and Captain Scott, the two great British Antarctic explorers. A lot of stories, Ben, Antarctica. People have a lot of questions, nine continents, and they've all agreed to not let us go there for whatever reason. That's right. Some people, of course, the Flat Earthers have their own beliefs. We have our own beliefs, all of us. But the point is where there's smoke, there's fire. At the end of the day, I think there's more to the story.

[00:08:10] Some of the original photos from some of those original discovers in the Antarctica don't really – they're odd. I'm not talking about the AI-generated ones that are garbage, that are floating all over. I mean, the legitimate ones. It appears that there were some other, you know, things going on up there architecturally that don't fit the narrative of being an icy plane. Well, you would – You got any thoughts of your own on that, just to touch on that for a minute? Yeah. Well, my thoughts as far as Antarctica is concerned. I was actually talking with someone about this recently.

[00:08:40] It was not something I was overly familiar with, but I'm not going to discount pretty much anything. And I can tell you one of the craziest experiences I ever had. You gentlemen probably have heard of Jane Goodall. She studied chimpanzees in Africa. British scientist. I just love watching your National Geographic. Oh, yeah. I grew up with Jane Goodall, Jacques Cousteau. Yeah. We did that. That was what we did at my house. That's the kind of TV we watched. We had encyclopedias. My family were proficient readers. My dad was highly educated. Yep. You know, so, yeah, same thing.

[00:09:10] But go ahead. So I knew Dr. Jane towards the end of her life. She passed on last year, but I knew her the last couple years of her life. She was an extremely well-put-together, intelligent, Cambridge-educated, dame commander of the British Empire, very stately, elegant woman who was revered like no one else in the scientific community at the time. Jane Goodall believed in Bigfoot. I mean, and you think, wow, that's so crazy.

[00:09:37] Well, and then you go to Nepal like I have, and you talk to the Sherpas up in the mountains, and they have stories going back for generations about beasts on these Himalayan mountains that their ancestors can't explain. And these aren't crazy people. So at some point you have to go, okay, it's a big world. I cannot, how could I possibly rule out that scenario? Especially when people like Jane Goodall are saying Bigfoot's walking around South America potentially. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're saying you don't believe in Bigfoot? Oh, sure.

[00:10:07] Hey, I'm open to it. Either way. Oh, okay. Yeah, I think that, you know, there's one thing about cryptids, right? When you start to really analyze them and you start talking about the New Jersey devil, you start talking about other things. You know, occasionally we find pockets of animals, for example. We thought the Choleanth was, you know, gone. And then there they pull a Choleanth out of the Indian Ocean. Turns out it wasn't gone. Recently there was some starfish that had been gone, and they thought, and they found a pocket of them.

[00:10:35] There's these pockets of the world that we haven't investigated fully. And let's face it, if they're, you know, assuming that there is some truth and all that, and I believe there is, you know, if the cryptids observed this at all, they would try to stay away from us because they would see a violent people. If they had deserted us from a distance, you know, you would think if they had any level of intelligence, I believe there's more to this. That's like the aliens are staying away from us, too. Well, I have to tell you that I think you're right about that. Let's face it.

[00:11:03] We'd have to be naive to believe that we are the only intelligent life form in these universes and galaxies, right? It would be naive to believe that. And at the end of the day, I also believe that we've got a government that can't be trusted. My personal opinion of our government is that it's a uniparty in D.C. We covered it on the show. And on this show, we don't blindly follow anybody. It doesn't matter, Donald Trump, anybody else. Yeah, I've got conservative leading values. I'm a true heart constitutionalist. I believe in the 17 subject matters specific to the Constitution.

[00:11:32] George and I believe that the founders and framers had a grand design. They didn't want the monarchs to be in charge. They didn't want this Federal Reserve banking system. There's a lot of things that come into play because the system is bought and sold, right? Everybody's bought and sold in that system. There are a handful of good people, but usually they get undermined. So when it comes to topics like Antarctica, like cryptids, the government has decided it many times, in my opinion, to go, oh, you guys aren't ready for that. No, no, go ahead. Just keep eating your little Gerber food.

[00:12:01] We can't tell you about the aliens. And I think that's a bunch of crock of crap, in my opinion. It pisses me off, actually. I understand when they've recovered a craft and they think they're going to use it for national security interests, right? They're going to reverse engineer it. I get it. But all the bullshit where they lie to us and all of a sudden there's a UAP or UAV, it gets put on film. And we can tell that it's not a craft that is from this, at least not of an engineering that we've designed, right? Because it's maneuvering and doing things that are impossibilities.

[00:12:31] And this is in hidden technology by the Chinese or the Russians. Every major country, I believe, is trying to reverse engineer. If they come into possession of something that is extraterrestrial, they're going to try to reverse engineer it because they want an advantage, which in itself is a whole different topic. I believe we've got a problem. When you have a government that thinks they can limit our access because somehow they've decided because they've got this level of government where they think they're a demigod. And that's the problem we have right now.

[00:12:57] We have 535 people in the executive branch that somehow think they're fucking better than us. And they're not. That's my big claim. And when you talk about like, you talk about government censorship, the thing that's been a rude awakening to me, Lance, and I don't know if you and George had this experience at all, but I didn't grow up, you know, learning about say CIA coups, overthrowing governments around the world.

[00:13:25] And now I have friends in the CIA and it's like, I'm not saying everyone there is bad, but gosh, you start to scratch under the surface. And we're not taught in traditional American history classes that the first thing Robert Kennedy thought when John F. Kennedy, his brother was shot was to call the head of the CIA and ask who did this in your operation. We were not taught that stuff. We're not taught that, you know, in 1953,

[00:13:52] 26 years before the Iranian hostage situation, Theodore Roosevelt's grandson and Norman Schwarzkopf's father arrived in Iran with bags of cash and instigated a coup, which overthrew the pro U.S. democratically elected government of Iran at the time and sent them into 26 years of a, of a dictatorship and a tailspin. That's not conspiracy. That's like very clear historic fact that the U S government later admitted to.

[00:14:20] But at the time it was known only by John Dulles, Eisenhower's secretary of state, you know, the Dulles brothers. It was, you know, done with the tacit approval of Eisenhower, but no one else knew the American people had no idea. But at that time, the newspapers in Tehran, 80% of them were being written by agencies from Washington, D.C. accusing the prime minister of Iran of being either a communist or an anti-communist or a Jewish hater or what have you.

[00:14:50] And we just like, I don't know. Did people know through the 50s, 60s and 70s that these kinds of things were going on? No, they didn't. No, because there's no doubt that the media, you know, George, we, you and I talk about this so often about the control of the media. Cause you see these narratives come through. I'm sure you've seen that hash together clip when it goes, it's a threat to our democracy. You know, it's a threat to our democracy. First of all, we're not a democracy. We're a constitutional Republic with democratic values, but they love that democracy terminology. They try to spin it to the audience.

[00:15:19] And it was, it was even more difficult because we didn't have the internet. They didn't count on, they thought the internet was going to be a different tool. I believe social media. Yeah. They didn't count on what happened there. They didn't think there'd be this massive amount of pushback because they've been brainwashed. This is my own opinion. And I'm George, I want to get your input on this. You know, literally where we're at here is that they didn't see this. They didn't, they didn't predict that well enough. They thought that it was going to be okay. It turned out it backfired on some, and now they use different systems. I mean,

[00:15:49] look at USAID, look at the funneling of money to a far leftist ideology, but you don't see anything coming to the right. They'll give Chelsea Clinton $84 million. They'll give Bill Kristol $8 million a year to post on social media. She didn't do anything for the $84 million. She goes out and buys an $11 million mansion. So it throws a $3 million wedding, but we don't call the money back. We don't hold those accountable. And that's my biggest complaint about this administration. When we find nefarious action, we find a guy like Reed Hoffman and a person like the,

[00:16:16] like George Soros and Alexander Soros funneling money to destroy the country from when they're like, George and I had a discussion yesterday and he knows how I think the problem is. I have a dark side. I'm drawn to the dark and I try not to be, you know, maybe it's from the way I was brought up. I grew up around, you know, Gambino Coppo was my godfather. So I, maybe my value system is different, but I, they're lucky I'm not fucking president. I can tell you this, it would be, it would be, it would be biblical. So George, what are your thoughts, man? On which part, Lance? I mean,

[00:16:45] just talking about the nature of the controlled narrative. I call it the narrative. So when you, when you're bringing up, yeah, the sixties, the seventies, we didn't know about, we know so much more because of, the availability of information that's readily, you know, free information, active for your request, social media on, but you could see that they try stopping us by, and let's see in 2021, when they were nuking everybody from social media, if you said something that didn't fit their narrative,

[00:17:15] social media, YouTube, all the channels. And they were, you know, trying to go back that back to that, you know, thank, thank God, um, it's changed back again, but what's to stop them from doing that again? If, if let's say democratic president gets in and has their way. So we're still in this era. Huh? Oh no, you're right. I mean, there's a lot of operations that have been declassified like ocean sea spray, you know, like, like, uh, you know, operation paperclip.

[00:17:44] There's a lot of operations that have been declassified. And you look at the nefarious nature. I worked as a government contractor. So I saw it from the other side back when I had a different value system. I don't think I could do the job now. Like I did it then. Uh, you know, I went to 41 different countries, saw action in a lot of them. The point is that, uh, the things that are going on behind the scenes and the true nature of what the CIA does and these other organizations like the DIA, D six, uh, the NSA, it's, it's not great. And they,

[00:18:12] and they are constantly overthrowing countries and dominion and smartmatic and Skydl. Those were created to, they weren't, they weren't really supposed to be used against us, the American people because the machines have clearly proven themselves to not be trustworthy in this elected system. It's why they really don't want to add blockchain technology. And they don't want to clean up the voter rolls because they want to cheat. They want to install individuals that are easy to manipulate. Now, who is that? They, I don't know. I think it's a complicated question. You look at things like Davos, the trilateral commission, com 300, and you question me personally.

[00:18:41] I would tell Davos, you can't have it anymore. And they would say, why? I said, if you hold that event, I'm going to fuel air bomb you. I'm going to fuel air bomb it. And I'm going to kill everybody that's there. Cause I think when you have elite getting together and they have decided that they, they, they hold a higher standard above you that they think somehow they're a class of people that exceeds you as an American or the people in this audience is American. When they have decided that that's a problem because when you see evil up close, that's what evil always decides that they have a right to do what they want to

[00:19:10] do simply because they exist and they have the power to do it. What do you think? Oh, I would say I got to be careful what I say about that Lance. Cause I was mentioning Jane Goodall a minute ago. She used to attend Davos pretty regularly. So I gotta, I gotta stick up for my friend Jane there. Yeah. Maybe Jane was right. I don't know about the rest of what happens to behind closed doors. Yeah, sure. And I would say I was very disillusioned. I mean, I'm,

[00:19:39] I'm 23. I'm learning a lot. I have a lot to learn. One of the things I'm understanding, you know, I thought I had even say the Ukraine war situation figured out. I thought listening to a few different interviews. Oh, I understand what's going on here. Then I meet a friend who comes from a position that I hadn't encountered yet. And it was like, man, maybe I have this wrong. Do a little more digging. Whoa. Didn't know this about Putin. Whoa. Didn't know this about Ukraine.

[00:20:06] So what I'm realizing is when you think, you know, something there's a, there's a verse in the Bible. Paul, the apostle says, let him who thinks he knows something, understand that he knows nothing at all. And that's the way I feel about a lot of these situations is the more I, the more I learned, the more I feel like I'm just scratching the tip of the iceberg. I mean, I mentioned the CIA operations. I'm not saying they've been all bad,

[00:20:34] but the extent of them is staggering. I had no idea that we were in Chile and the Philippines and Puerto Rico. The CIA and so on. Or everywhere. The CIA. Right. But I, you don't grow up in, in my Christian school. I went to in kindergarten, learning about that. Right. It's like you come to it later and you might hear about it from a known Chomsky who has endorsed my work in the past. And you think, man, Dr. Noam's pretty,

[00:21:04] some people think he's pretty crazy. And some of the things I, I understand why people take issue with, but he starts talking about the U S government, the CIA and you're like, no, some of that stuff can't be true. And then some of it, not saying all of it. Some of it's born out by the historical record. And you go, Holy smokes. What do I do with this? I think, I think the main thing you do is this, in my view, the American people I've met, I mentioned those conferences I went to over the last 10 years.

[00:21:32] And this sounds so cliche to say this, but it's what I believe. The thousands of Americans I've met in person are by and large, really hardworking, intelligent, decent, family oriented, charitable, hospitable people. And what the U S government does in all times, in all circumstances is not necessarily the will of those people. And there's a difference between what the U S government does over 50, 60,

[00:22:02] a hundred, 200 years, and what millions of good Americans represent. And that's, again, I want to be careful because I probably sound cowardly saying this, but I, I really don't think the U S government or the U S is some just hegemony for evil. I don't think that at all. I've been in poor countries where you see aid delivered by, you know, the American people, by the U S government to people surviving earthquakes and famines. And I mean, there's a lot of good things we do.

[00:22:32] But at the same time, it's like how much say, for instance, under the Dulles brothers in the fifties, did anyone have a clue about? Well, none. I mean, take the Guatemala coup, for instance, that was in the fifties under the Dulles brothers. The way that coup worked is literally the CIA paid for an army to invade that country under a different flag. And then we put out a statement from the state department with the official state department letterhead. You know,

[00:23:01] the forces in this country who have hated this government are rising up against this. We have nothing to do with this. It was an outright lie. And you think, well, why did they do that? Well, it was to guard against communism. So, you know, the Dulles brothers did it for what they believed were good intentions, whether or not they were, that's for the historians to work out. But the fact is that state department memo was an outright lie from the secretary of state. And, and it took 50 years to figure that out when John Dulles was long since

[00:23:29] dead and all the people and participants were long since dead. And the people who had been lied to many of them were long since dead. So I don't know if that makes people, it does. They wonder if the same thing's going to happen. Right. I think you're over the directly over. And the problem is there really isn't any genuine oversight. When you talk about the Christians in actions or any of the other agencies that work in our, you know, intelligence sphere, they do a lot of things without congressional oversight, without congressional authorization. I can tell you what, I can't go into details,

[00:23:58] but I can tell you that I saw things firsthand that clearly based on what our laws are should never occur. I'm talking about the funding of warlords. I'm talking about bribes. I'm talking about, you know, assassinations. There's a lot of things that I was aware of years ago and I, you know, watch it going on around. And of course these intelligence organizations, some of them, when they're, when they're, their goal is aligned, you'll see multi-agency groups where you'll see, you know, special forces operators,

[00:24:28] Christians in actions, DIA, Mossad, you know, you name it. Other agencies from around the globe and they will coordinate events. You know, you probably, have you ever read the book? I think it's called the economic hit man. It's about, no, yeah, you should read it. It's about how these economic jackals was the terminology we use back. And I used to do oversight for some of those groups. And the truth is they would, it was intentional destabilization. The world banking system would loan money say to any country, let's say Guatemala, let's pick a country,

[00:24:58] Iran, they loan it against the oil. And if oil is trading at a hundred, they might loan the money at $35 a barrel, $25 a barrel. And then they will try to intentionally subvert and overturn the government so that they will default on the loans. So the powers of beacon, of course, now say, oh, well, we don't, we're going to seize this oil, grab this oil because you owe us this much. And of course it's below market rates. So it's not really about the interest on the loan. It's the fact that they can seal, seize natural resources and the rest of it. And this is an ongoing thing. It's been going on for decades.

[00:25:27] I don't know if it'll ever stop, but I don't know how we fix it. You don't have any real true oversight. When you don't have any groups paying attention and really any accountability. Cause of course, if you did it, if I, if you committed any number of things we just discussed, you would have the FBI and probably department of Homeland Security and others kicking in your front door, kicking your dog, flash bangs, tasers, you name it, you'd be hog tied on the ground. They'd probably throw a hood on you, you know, at the end of the day, but that's the problem. There's consequences for regular Americans,

[00:25:56] but this government has built a separate layer of no accountability. You know, it's not equal application of law. It's not equal protection of law. It's Oh, Hey, like for example, George, who was it? Who made that comment? It was at AOC or was it, was it Jasmine Crockett? Oh, it was Jasmine Crockett. Well, I'm a, you know, I'm a member of Congress. I don't know who he thinks he's talking to. Like somehow. They all act like that. I want to get, I want to get back. So in, in the beginning, you talked about Dershowitz, right? Yeah. You wrote a book on him.

[00:26:26] I did. Yeah. Did he, did he commission you to do that? You just did it. Yeah. It was, it was authorized. As they say, I interviewed Alan extensively for that book. And a lot of the people who know him on both sides, the political. Did you ask him about Epstein, how he was involved with Epstein and stuff? Did, is that in the book? Yeah. Oh, that's, that's all in the book. Um, he met him on Martha's vineyard in the 1990s. He was on Epstein's Island with his wife and his daughter. Um, he was, he,

[00:26:56] he knew Epstein in a personal relationship up until about 2006. And then was his lawyer in the, uh, you know, Oh six, Oh seven, Oh eight plea deal. Florida. Right. With Pam bond. Yeah. And, uh, did he mention that Epstein was a confidential informant then back then that he turned over five hedge fund operators that were sort of supposedly laundering money. And that's how he got that sweetheart deal. Did we talk about that at all? No, he didn't. And Dershowitz, you know,

[00:27:24] denies that he was any kind of Mossad agent. He's been pretty public about denying that. And it's a complicated thing. I'll admit, I mean, one of the things that we talked about where the theories of how he got his money. And one of the theories that Dershowitz said he had heard, but was careful to not say that, you know, it was anything definitive. Was that Leslie Wexner and Jeffrey Epstein were in a homosexual relationship for which Wexner, uh, or Epstein extorted Wexner to be quiet.

[00:27:54] I have no idea whether or not that's true, but. I think, I think that there are stories about Epstein being bisexual. I think he was a sexual deviant. That's clear enough. And I think there's also a story about Maxwell. You know, there was that $400 million that went missing, uh, when, when Maxwell, uh, you know, all of a sudden he died and it had to do with that. Uh, I think it was a, uh, retirement fund. Nobody ever recovered those funds. Some people say that that was part of Epstein's original, uh, divvy up.

[00:28:22] The Mossad thing he's incorrect about, they pulled out Israeli, uh, surveillance equipment from every one of his locations. It was all Israeli built. The Mossad had worked with him directly. Maxwell had, you know, Ghislaine Maxwell. And of course her father was a well-known Mossad operative. She still had all her contacts. I believe it was always a bribery and extortion scheme with, with, with, with Epstein. I don't think he ever really made a legitimate dollar. It was always based on insider information, extorting information at people, compromising people again,

[00:28:52] straight playbook out of the intelligence organizations, compromise an individual and make them a source. Of course, then they become your asset. The point is, I think he was highly skilled at it. I have a number of reasons for believing it. George and I have deeply investigated a lot of it. Do we have the last piece of the sauce, the actual document? No, because most intelligence organizations don't deal in that. Even if he wasn't operative, it would have said asset number three 65. It would never actually have the name. Only the people in charge would know the exact name. You don't see documents floating around like that.

[00:29:22] And I believe when you start looking at the fact that there was all this equipment and it was so sophisticated and it was in New Mexico, it was in West Palm beach. It was in the New York Brownstown and Lolita Island. You know, and the fact that they swept into Lolita Island so swiftly, you don't see any videos floating around about the raids, but I heard they walked out of every facility with hard drives, zip drives, just reams of stuff. None of that's come forward. And how is Maxwell the only trafficker in history whose clients don't seem

[00:29:51] to be getting any kind of consequences? You're telling me that Maxwell is the only guilty party that's still alive. This administration has done a horrible job, horrible all the way around. They've lost a lot of, they've lost a lot of support because we think they're full of shit when it comes to Epstein. I think they're full of shit. I think Epstein was a very nefarious character and he took a play right out of the book. I think he was selling information to both the Mossad and the CIA because let's face it, that Florida case is such a bunch of crap. He should have no doubt seen time,

[00:30:19] the way that he traded those hedge fund managers for a deal. It turned out he was an asset for the FBI. And I think he was an ongoing source for them. And he was so valuable because he was compromising people. There's no way that if you, you know, if you, you know, being the character I believe you had had based on what you just described yourself. And I know George's character. If the three of us got invited to Epstein Island and we knew nothing and we just thought it was going to be a cool party. And we heard that all these celebrities and influential people would be like, Hey shit. Yeah, I'll definitely go. If you didn't know anything, I don't think it would take the three of us.

[00:30:49] Cause I don't drink George doesn't drink. I don't do any drugs or anything. And they, and they wouldn't be able to, you know, trick me into, you know, getting some compromising photos. I, it would only take me minutes to look around and be like, put those kids over there. Like it would be minutes and it would be no time at all. I'd say, Hey, I'd walk up to somebody and say, you need to get that fucking boat ready. And on my plane or whatever, we're leaving. I'm leaving. I'm not staying for this bullshit because you would know there's no way that Bill Gates went there 26 or 27 times allegedly.

[00:31:18] And that he didn't know. And then other people didn't know when they went there more than once. I'm not saying Dershowitz knew. He may not have known. Not every, people don't tell their lawyer everything. Right. So I don't want to take a poke at Alan. Cause I don't know. It wouldn't be fair to him. But the point is there's no fricking way that the people went there multiple times with the shit that was going on in that Island. It was going on in his different locations that they didn't know. They knew. And even if they just looked at the case in Florida for a few minutes, they would know. So that's my argument.

[00:31:47] With Dershowitz, what I was able to determine to the best of my research capabilities. I mean, a lot of the details around Epstein are muddled, confusing. And like we were just talking about a minute ago, might not be known for 50, 60 years after where some of us or some of these people are long dead. But in terms of Dershowitz, he was on his Island, you know, little St. James once with Dershowitz's wife, Carolyn and his daughter, Ella.

[00:32:15] He was at his Palm beach. It was Palm beach, I believe. That's right. Yeah. And he was coming down there for a soccer tournament for his granddaughter. And Epstein said, Oh, take the, you know, take the guest quarters of the mansion. I'm not down there that weekend. He visited his, you know, his office at Harvard. He had an office right at Harvard for years. And he would invite, you know, Steven. That's almost the Bitcoin there. You know that, right? That Bitcoin story that's floating around. Yeah, go ahead.

[00:32:46] Yeah, no, I was just going to say that for, it might be hard for people to swallow. I understand that, but Dershowitz maintains that Epstein had two lives and there were people who knew about the secret trafficking life and people who didn't. And that's, people are just going to have to take their pick on what they believe there. Uh, I mean, he, Dershowitz told me, described to me the inside of Epstein's Palm Beach residence and exactly how the quarters were divvied up.

[00:33:14] Epstein's area was private and, and secluded and, and, uh, you weren't allowed in his area and there were guest quarters where Dershowitz and his family stayed. Um, I mean, there's a lot of fishy stuff around Epstein and, and Dershowitz himself was accused by one of, uh, Epstein's victims of having, you know, sexually abused her six or seven times. She later withdrew that accusation, but I had to get into all of that for the book. So I,

[00:33:41] I dove pretty deep into that accusation against him and what that battle was between Dershowitz and, her name was Virginia Jouffre. She passed away last year. Um, so I got into all of that. They were in litigation for eight years, you know, and it was terrible. And eventually she said something along the lines of, I might have made a mistake in identifying Alan Dershowitz. It was as close as you could come legally to saying I lied the last 10 years. So I,

[00:34:09] I don't have any conclusive evidence to show that Dershowitz was in any way a pedophile or anything like that. He hangs around and has for 40, 50 years with guys who a lot of people find to be really bad people. OJ Simpson, Klaus von Buhlo, um, um, take your pick. I mean, that's Dershowitz line of work. Yeah. And, and I have to say this, you know, there is no doubt that when people are up to nefarious behavior, they have a dual life, right? They may be the one that's presented with their families and the, what most of the world knows.

[00:34:39] And I'm not sure, uh, that everybody would be aware of somebody's dark side. I mean, take a serial killer. There's many serial killers that have families and everything's perfect on the outside. And then they've got this second life where they're on the road, uh, you know, strangling people. So, you know, I think, I think, I think, you know, there's no doubt that Epstein was a sociopath and so, and an intelligence sociopath. Epstein's not dead either. He's still alive. Well, we, and I, I agree with George. Yeah. I think you're right. I think when you look at the images, I, I know some guys that ran some very sophisticated intelligence style,

[00:35:09] facial recognition and the way that the BOP works. When somebody dies in prison, they don't bring them out on a gurney with their face exposed. They're in a body bag already, or they're covered up. They don't stop at the dock. What appears to be a cigarette and a photo shoot. Uh, you know, it doesn't look like Epstein's ear. He's got his earlobes. His nose doesn't look correct. I don't think he's dead. I'm not saying, I don't know where he's at. I don't know if the Israelis got him hidden. I don't know, but he did so much work for this Israel. And this country has so much, uh, is being manipulated so often by Israel.

[00:35:38] And I can say that. Some people say, Oh, it's antisemitic. My mom's Jewish. They're making me Jewish, of course. So I'm not antisemitic. I'm pro Israel. I'm just not pro Netanyahu in the way that he runs things. I don't like the, I don't like the influx of manipulation of the press and the politics. I don't like lobbyists and foundations and super PACs. I would outload all those immediately if I had the opportunity to do so. Cause I, I think their influence is nefarious at a minimum. So the difficulty comes when you look at a situation like that,

[00:36:06] and especially when you're looking at a high value asset, countries that have a high value asset are going to go out of their way to continue to protect that asset. Cause they don't want full disclosure, whether it was Israel. I don't know whether it's the U S I don't think Epstein's dead. Personally. I think that Epstein, I heard it many times. He had lots and lots of information on very high value, influential people. And that in fact, in fact, Maxwell has a lot of that data. I don't know what's going on with Maxwell. I'm surprised she hasn't, there isn't some deal working,

[00:36:35] but I will say this. I have to question why our FBI and why our administration isn't dropping the hammer. I don't care if it's Jay Z and Beyonce. I don't care if it's a Supreme court justice. I don't care who it is. Equal application of the law. That's the rule. And I think this, the way they've mishandled this shows culpability. I believe that cash Patel has made a tremendous mistake.

[00:37:05] I like cash. He's been on our show. I just think he's made a tremendous mistake. I'm not dropping the hammer and forcing it forward. Pam Bondi clearly was compromised. She spent a year and three months doing just about nothing. As far as I'm concerned, Todd Blanche, I think has been handed a very hot potato. I don't know whether or not he's the man for the job or not. I don't know Todd so far. He surprised me with a couple of things right out of the gate. They don't want to approve him, you know, probably because maybe, maybe they're afraid of him. I don't know. I would have rather seen Sydney pal in there because she's been attacked.

[00:37:35] I can, you don't have to be an attorney. I'd even prefer to have Michael Flynn in there. There's a lot of people that I could see being the, you know, leadership positions in the AG, the OIG. So we're going to switch gears here. I don't want to burn up what we went down a rabbit hole here, but I appreciate your transparency on it. Uh, let's talk about your book. It kind of qualifies him, you know? Yeah, it does qualify. But I wanted to discuss, cause when I saw the Dershowitz, I, you know, and I believe that you're the Dershowitz may very well have not known. There's some things about Dershowitz, I question,

[00:38:04] but he's an attorney. Okay. George, you don't agree based on that. I don't, I don't agree. Cause factually he did know we won't get into it. Cause I don't want to get sued by Dershowitz, but I mean, he said he's, you know, he gave me the times he was there on the Island with his wife and kids, but he didn't give me the times that I'm going to say allegedly that when he was there without his wife and kids. But anyway, that's a whole nother story. So not as far as I could tell, I'll just say that. So here you got,

[00:38:32] you got a book about JK Rollins. And now this wasn't, she didn't author you to write this book either. Right. I got it. We got to come up with a nickname for him, like book slayer or biography slayer. It was a, whereas this one was not. Hold it. Put that book back up there. How many fricking pages is that thing, man? It's about 550, something like that. Wow. It was a clunker, but her life for sure. Her life is, I mean, it's just endlessly interesting. I mean, she's 61,

[00:39:03] but she's lived 10, 15 lifetimes. And then all that stuff people have heard about her being a single mother on welfare, going from rags to riches, becoming the world's first billionaire author. All that's true. You know, she went from being the least important person in a room, being a secretary, taking minutes of the meeting, feeling like no one cared about her opinion, to being at the head of a table with moguls from Hollywood and universal, pitching her theme parks and movie series based on Harry Potter and merchandise,

[00:39:32] and being the most important person in the room 10 times over for, I mean, the last 30 years. So she had one of the most interesting, I think, human interest stories we've, we've seen of our lifetime, a real life Cinderella story. She went from being totally obscure, plain, ordinary to one of the most powerful and influential women on the planet. Yeah. Through her creativity. You know, well, and I, you know, my daughter was the correct age at the time Harry Potter came up.

[00:40:02] I got her all the books and we went, you know, we watched all the movies, you know, it was one of those things. And I enjoyed it actually. I mean, I liked Harry Potter too, man. I thought it was great. Oh yeah, it's crazy. I enjoyed it. I mean, her, her imagination was just, you know, transcended kind of in a way, a lot of unique concepts. A lot of people have tried to copy or make some version of it since, but it does, you're never going to get another Harry Potter style event because she was so unique in what she'd created. I mean, I just, the Hufflepuffs and all the other stuff that she used, you just, you know, out of left field, she created a whole, a whole genre, a whole glossary of terms.

[00:40:32] And, and, uh, you know, it was really interesting. I got to give her credit. And I had heard that she used to go to a coffee shop cause she didn't have internet at her house. And she used to do the internet and she'd sit in her car and write, she'd go to the, like you said, one cup of coffee. That's what, when she was writing the first book. Yeah. I don't even think she, wasn't she homeless at that time or no? Well, I thought she was living in her car at that time. Let the biographer answer. She was, she was one, as she says, she was as poor as you could possibly be in Britain without being homeless. She was living in a one apartment with mice,

[00:41:02] you know, scurrying through the walls and, uh, living with her daughter, her two year old. Yeah. Uh, I mean, not the worst crime area in Scotland, but she was living in an area of Edinburgh, nearby lathe, where there was, uh, uh, some fair amount of criminal activity at that time. You know, she had neighbors in her, or a building who would wear sunglasses because they had black eyes and stuff like that. She had a drunk guy break into her apartment at 3 AM and she wrestled him out the door.

[00:41:31] So it's like, so it's like people like living in a hood. Sure. Yeah. Well, that's not a bad thing necessarily, but the crazy thing is though, is it's JK Rowling. I mean, the, this, the creator of Harry Potter, the one of the most powerful women on the planet, the richest author who's ever lived. And that's what she was living through. I mean, that's one of the things that made her story so interesting to me was that she was writing Harry Potter while dealing with poverty, domestic abuse, sexual assault, the death of her mother.

[00:42:00] I met her first husband in Portugal who was, uh, sadly physically abusive towards her. She got herself entangled in that mess for years before she, you know, had a baby with that guy and then flew back to, uh, Britain to escape that guy. I met him, spoke to him. She had a really tortured life. And in some ways she still carries the burdens of that. When she came and spoke out against the transgender, uh, in the, in the transgender controversy,

[00:42:28] she attributed her passion for that. And for that, uh, controversy to two things. Well, number of things, but two main relationships from her past. One was the abusive first marriage that I mentioned. The other was her tortured relationship with her father. Her father wanted a son. Told her he had wanted a son and was totally disappointed when she turned out to be a girl. So JK was born in the wrong gender, if you will. I mean, every father wants his son. Matter of fact, I was just out to dinner with my parents, with my mom,

[00:42:59] my sister, my cousin. We were talking about that. My dad had his first daughter was okay. When he had his second daughter, he punched a hole in the wall. Yeah. That's the way they are. You know, the thing was, JK was very self-conscious little girl. I mean, you'll see from the pictures that are published for the first time of the biography. Very freckly, very self-conscious about her appearance. And so it really emotionally scarred her. When she wrote her essay, explaining why she was speaking out in the transgender controversy, she said,

[00:43:26] I feel passionately about this because I believe I could have been persuaded to transition and turn myself into the son my father openly said he'd have preferred. So this is, you know, they'd impacted her on a massive level. That, the abuse she suffered from her first marriage, all the tortured relationships she had and experiences she had, that also flowed into Harry Potter though. I mean, Harry Potter,

[00:43:51] the whole story of Harry Potter is him escaping from an emotionally abusive family into a more wonderful world than what he finds himself in. Yeah. There's, there's a, there's a reason in the, in book two and movie two, if, if anyone's ever seen it, Harry gets picked up from his house by his best friend who's driving a turquoise Ford Anglia from the sixties, you know, his car from the sixties. Yeah. Well, then you come to find out JK used to escape her, her home, uh,

[00:44:19] being picked up by her best friend in the eighties, uh, driving a turquoise Anglia. I mean, there's tons of stuff like that where you start to go, Holy smokes. There's all these references to Harry Potter that, um, a lot of people haven't even, you know, we don't even really pick up on. And it's not to say that Harry Potter is like therapy for JK, but in a way she was exercising demons from her past through writing those books. And her future novels. That's not too much of a stretch to say that. Yeah.

[00:44:48] I think there's no doubt that authors do that. They put their own, uh, maybe their own emotional, you know, you find yourself that maybe it's, maybe it's cathartic. I don't know. It's just, absolutely. That's right. That's the word she uses. Yeah. I think at some point, you know, cause a lot of us, you know, I internalize this stuff. I don't share a lot of things with people. I've always been a very closed individual and you find yourself when you're writing at certain moments, something may chime in with you. And then maybe a little bit of that comes out.

[00:45:17] So people get to see a small bite of that. And I think you could tell that with their books. You could see that there was, this was a complex story that seemed to have things were intertwined, maybe from regular life because you saw the concern, Harry, you know, and making them sleep under the stairs and all that other BS they did to him, hiding him when guests would come over, you know, everybody, depending on your childhood, not all of us have had, but you've had, it sounded like you've had a very blessed childhood. Yes. Many people haven't. A lot of us do go through things, you know,

[00:45:47] and we do have to, we do have to elevate ourselves. You know, we, we, I talk about that with George sometimes you have to kind of, it's hard to let things go. I'm a guy that kind of just pushes it down inside, which isn't necessarily the healthiest solution, but I'm also a guy when there's a contractor, you know, regardless of what I did that day, I've always slept like a baby. I don't have these horrible. Now, should I probably, I probably should have some horrible things circling in my head, but there are certain people that have an ability to just push that out of the way and keep forging forward.

[00:46:16] In the case of children, I hate transgenderism. The reason being, I think if somebody wants to transition and that comes in, that should never be allowed before 18 or 19 or 20 years or whatever, whatever they decide, 21, they can decide whatever it is. And it's not because it's controlling or that because you've got a lot of people. This is a mental health crisis here in the United States. There are women and there are men and there are other people that have abusively controlled their children. Maybe in the case, just like JK, that she said they would have tried to transition or maybe if they could have,

[00:46:44] maybe because transitioning wasn't as common then. But I, but I look at it as a mental health crisis and it's concerning for me. You're, you're what's interesting about, I was, I was going to ask you about your education and you came very forthcoming about it. It's horrible. We haven't had these test scores since 2009. The board of education has ruined us. Social media is a horrible influence on children. You know, the fact that they are so focused, I walk around and it's just one of those things. I'm very aware of my surroundings. George and I had this situational awareness.

[00:47:14] This thing that you, there's things that I'm always paying attention to it. You know, I want to sit in a restaurant on my back to the wall. I'm going to be close to an exit. These are all, you know, trained perspectives. I don't, I don't feel comfortable in certain situations. And if I start to see something odd, I might even move. I might even ask to move my table. If I see something uncomfortable around me, but the, the deal is, is that that's, that's unique. But when it comes to the education system, the brainwashing, the grooming, I, you know, if it's up to me,

[00:47:43] I don't think TikTok's any better now that it's got American control. TikTok, I believe was created specifically by the Chinese as a subversive platform. You keep saying that, but those videos are not around anymore. I don't know why you keep saying that. I have a TikTok account and I see it, huh? I feel like they are. I still see a lot of stuff. You feel like? No, I still see a lot of stuff. I still see a lot of things that I'm not comfortable with. But that's on every social media, Lance. Again, I'm, I'm targeting TikTok currently, George. It's one of those things that I, I don't, I feel strongly about.

[00:48:12] It doesn't mean that there aren't other platforms. You're biased. I am biased. There's no doubt about it. I have a belief system and I am biased about it because I'm worried about the kids. I mean, they're not, listen, I went to all Catholic, I'm not George. I don't, you know, I don't know all your schooling, but I went to Trinity Lutheran grade school. I went to an all boys Catholic high school. And, you know, then I went to university, you know, I got the opportunity. My parents made sure I got a good education, even though they didn't have a lot of money. And they, and I also had an amazing, there was tons of books in my house. I read all the time.

[00:48:41] We had three different sets of encyclopedias back then. I think it was the Grawl year in Britannica. I can't remember the name of the other one. They always got the updates and I was excited to go through them and look at the world and learn. And it was one of those things. My dad was a, he was an opera singer years ago. He performed on Broadway. He sung opera. So I grew up with classical music, you know, opera and Broadway and all that stuff was around me. And he had done that before he got married, but he'd done a lot of it. He, he was currently in Oklahoma, the original Rogers and Hammerstein, you know, musical.

[00:49:12] So it's just one of those things that I, that I got a pretty well. And then of course, then I had the other side, I got the mob, you know, I'm around a bunch of capos and a bunch of a whole crew of guys. And I saw the bonding of them. You know, maybe I didn't see that. I'm not going to tell you that. I saw all the bad parts. I know the, I knew they existed. There was accountability and consequences for actions, but it's just, it's interesting where we're at. And I think in the case of Rowling, you can see all that come forward. So let's, let's go here. You know, she's been, she was a long figure on the left.

[00:49:42] Yeah. You know, she viciously has criticized Trump. You know, was there any transition? Did you start, did she start to open up and see the world differently? Or was she always going to be left, left, left? What happened? As far as I can tell, I don't think her feelings for the president have changed much, but here's essentially what happened from what I learned. She initially supported transgender rights in a speech in 2016. She came to New York, accepted an award from a literary society. And in that speech,

[00:50:10] she talked about transgender rights as one of the great minority movements of our time. And that came a month after she was whining and dining with president Obama. It was the same month, May of 2016, when a number of initiatives were made by the Obama administration to advance transgender causes in the U S and three years later, JK is blowing up her legacy and her, her influence among the circles that once adored her.

[00:50:37] What happened as far as I can tell is this between 2016, 2019, she started to observe instances where women were being assaulted, attacked, verbally shouted down, censored by people identifying as transgender. And she grew and became very concerned. The interesting thing though, is even when she was viciously attacking president Trump, she was always an advocate for free speech at that, that that speech I mentioned that she gave in New York in 2016, when she praised transgender rights,

[00:51:07] she also scolded the people in that audience for wanting to censor Donald Trump. And she said his right to say what he wants is the same thing that gives me my right to call him an idiot. So that's what she was saying 10 years ago, even, even when she was still very much associated with the left. So it seems pretty clear that she's got a passion for free speech coupled with a fear of what can happen when an abusive man gets access to you as a woman.

[00:51:33] And she sees the transgender movement as allowing that into women's spaces, combined with the incidents in the UK of, you know, young girls in Scotland being assaulted in bathrooms and women being pummeled at speakers' corners in London. And she started to see this monolith of, of, of darkness in my view, descend on the UK. And she got to a point where she said, I'm done. Someone needs to take a stand. I can take the hit.

[00:52:02] I can financially afford to I'm well protected. And she, you know, she gets credible death threats fairly often. She said, predators come to the home where her kids live. She said, the actors and actresses from the Potter community come out and say, you know, we don't want to be associated with her views. These were, these were kids she grew up with or, or, or kids who grew up seeing her as this mentor like figure. You know, it's pretty sad actually. Um, not all of them have come out against her. It's interesting. More of the villains, you know, Voldemort,

[00:52:33] Bellatrix, the dark characters from Potter have come out and supported JK. Um, for, for whatever reason, uh, people can make that what they will, but yeah, that's essentially what happened. And then JK just never looked back. She, she clamped down. Um, she came out even harder as the years went by. She not only didn't stop, she redoubled her efforts, more expletives, more definitive statements. Uh, and essentially last year, she came out and said, transgender women are male, meaning you can think whatever you want.

[00:53:02] You can hope to be whatever you want. You are what you are born. And that will never change. Sorry. And that was, you know, in terms of, uh, statements that could excommunicate you from being seen as, in any way sympathetic to the transgender community, community or involved with that. That was a pretty cardinal sin. And I spoke to people on both sides of this in the UK. Um, so that you'll hear the perspectives on both sides of what has been going on in the UK, the last seven years, people on JK side of the aisle,

[00:53:32] prominent transgender activists to be able to dig into all of that. And unfortunately, hear about the censorship attempts against JK and they've worked. I mean, Harry Potter books have been removed from stores. Stores, my book. Um, I can't get coverage in a lot of different independent. Why was he, why was Harry Potter Potter books removed from stores? Certain left wing bookstores believe JK is a transphobe and say that the content is insensitive to keep on the shelves.

[00:54:01] My books going through that right now. I can't get coverage from certain Harry Potter fan sites and independent bookstores or book signing events. I've literally been told the subject matter is not fit for our clientele, even among Harry Potter communities. There are Harry Potter fan sites that will not cover her period. Won't mention her name. Pretend like she doesn't even exist, but she wrote the series. All right. I want to get, I want to get, so you, you, you brought some bunch of revelations about her families,

[00:54:30] especially specifically what her father. Yeah. He was one of the largest marijuana grows in Southwest England and Wales in the nineties. That's right. And that's, I mean, that's interesting for a couple reasons. The one is that of course it was then, it is still now highly illegal in the UK. The other thing is he was doing this while JK, his daughter was living in poverty with her, with his granddaughter. He was apparently from what I was told by his relative,

[00:54:57] making a fair amount of money while his daughter was famously living on welfare, writing Harry Potter and cafes. So what the heck was going on there? And then his whole tortured relationship with JK, as I mentioned earlier, directly led into her passion to speak out on the transgender controversy and also aspects of Harry Potter. I mean, Harry Potter's filled with idealized father figures. And JK literally said publicly once that one of the main father figures to

[00:55:23] Harry Potter is the father she wished she had in her own life. I find that incredibly sad. I'm close with my dad. So I wish that weren't true for her. Maybe it was a blessing that our father treated like that, because if she, if he didn't and treat her nice and had her place to stay, she maybe wouldn't have not come up with the thing, Harry Potter. It's absolutely possible. Yeah. That works in mysterious ways. I mean, it's, it's, it's a, it's a strange reality. If, if JK hadn't gone through all the tortured experiences she had,

[00:55:53] Harry Potter at the very least would not be as. Emotionally profound and deep as it is. I mean, there's a reason people across all age categories connect with these books. They emotionally ring true with everyone across all walks of life, rich, poor, young, old, however many different ethnicities, billions of people, no matter where you come from, find these books, not just emotionally relevant, but they're just funny and exciting and scary and interesting.

[00:56:21] And the plot lines are suspenseful. Someone said that JK is just the best in the world at making you keep turning the pages. So it's not like it's all family therapy. They're just, they're darn good stories. She knows how to hold your interests. It's innately. She's just innately talented. Yeah. Is her father still alive? Yeah. As far as I know, I don't know. I don't know. And that, that information would be very difficult to come by.

[00:56:51] I know people in her family who have tried to contact her father for 25 years and have been unable to. So I don't know what's going on there. What about her mother? Her mother sadly has been gone for 36 years. And that was a hugely formative influence. She had, uh, she had MS for about 15 years and JK had to grow up watching her mother get slowly paralyzed. It was horrifying. And then she died when JK was 25 years old,

[00:57:19] six months after she had the idea for Harry Potter. And then of course, what happens in Harry Potter? He's an orphan longing for his parents. His mother dies to save him. And JK would later say to Oprah in an interview after the Potter series came out, she said, my mother's death is on every page of those books. And of course, Harry loses one, one mentor figure after the next, after the next, and then eventually has to go face his own death. It's a pretty profound series. A lot of it has, you know,

[00:57:47] for whatever people's religions might be, a lot of it has biblical echoes deliberate on JK's part. That whole idea of self-sacrifice that was deliberately worked in by JK. Um, not only as just this really great storyline, but also as, it's something that she found like morally ringing true. And she, she wasn't happy about you writing this book. Well, initially I reached out to her through her agent and she told me it's nothing personal.

[00:58:16] I don't want to authorize a biography. And I respected that. And I, I made the reasons for writing the book clear, which were, I wasn't, and still am not trying to dig up dirt. I learned things through the course of my research that I wasn't expecting, but I just said, look, there's a billion people like me who have been impacted by Harry Potter, who want to know, you know, the life story of JK and how she created Harry Potter. And there was no up-to-date resource. There hasn't been a book about her in 25 years. It's like Tiger Woods,

[00:58:44] not having a complete biography or Michael Jordan or anybody take your pick at her level. But then eventually when I was doing my research in the UK, one of her lawyers sent me a letter, which said that our client doesn't intend to take matters further, but is requesting that you stop trying to interview people in person. And I read that as insinuating that greater threats would come my way. So I left the UK and stopped that out of respect to her, quite frankly, out of a bit of fear because,

[00:59:14] you know, she's got a lot of money, a lot of a large legal team. And I just, I was 21 scared to death when I got the letter and I left. Lance, I'm going to write your biography like he's doing. Yeah. I know the dirt people. I know the dirt. That's right. With all this stuff in there, we, I'd probably end up arrested if ever completely transparent, but you know, what's always interesting to Harry Potter for me is that, that, that,

[00:59:44] that the sympathy and empathetic emotions it created, you know, you felt the darkness behind the scenes of whatever her life was. I'm, you know, listen, I'm, you know, my, I can't imagine a father making this tremendous amount of money illegally at that time, whatever. I don't care about that part. The fact that he didn't help her, you know, here she is struggling living in this one bedroom apartment. I think that's horrible in itself. It's a horrible, unrecoverable emotional thing that happens to children because you get these parents that, you know,

[01:00:14] in this case, I guess he was very misogynistic. You know, he was that kind of a guy probably cause he was in the drug scene and he was flashy or whatever was going on in his life. I don't know who he was. I don't know enough about him to say that, but that happens. Right. When you have somebody, you know, he had a child and then her mom, you know, was, you know, sick and all the things going on, but it's horrible to see that. Cause you, you kind of sense that in the book, you kind of sense this undercurrent of that constantly because some of the darkness in there, it's, it's almost, you know, for a child, not so much for me or George,

[01:00:43] but it's kind of frightening. You know, you see the stuff, the giant spiders and some of the things and you start to wonder, you know, what's the reasoning behind that? Cause the hero, the theme of a lot of books is the hero, you know, the hero rises and then the hero goes down. You know, that's that, that's that whole story of how a person got started. It's in there. And she did an amazing job in grasping it. She brought it to the audience. She made a connection, but it's because she was so emotionally bonded to what she did. And I'm sure for her, it probably was, um,

[01:01:13] it probably helped her. Who knows what the struggles were when she was sitting in that car, barely getting by trying to carve this out. Yeah, absolutely. You have to give her the transcending win and say, my God, this is so incredible that she could pull it off. Absolutely. What was the biggest bombshell besides the father? Was there anything else that maybe didn't end up in the book that you thought, you know, I don't really want to go down this road. Oh, you know, is there anything you came across that you were like, wow, this is, um, and you, and you couldn't really get it to where it was printable.

[01:01:42] Cause you don't want to be in a case of slander or libel. And she's got obviously a billion dollars. She's got probably a cadre of lawyers that would scare anybody on the planet. I would say Lance to disappoint you. Yes. But if I even try and hint at what that might've been, I am genuinely afraid potentially of getting sued, which is why it wasn't in the book. I would say one of the big, can you type it to me in a chat and I'll say it? Yeah. I, I, I,

[01:02:14] I would say this, the big bombshell, which again was kind of unfortunate to uncover, but which is in the book, JK's first novel after Harry Potter, it's called the casual vacancy. She published it in 2012. It was a novel for adults. It's set in modern day England and it is filled with crime, abuse, affairs, rape, and all, all the worst things people can go through. Um,

[01:02:42] and the shocking thing to me was that book in a lot of ways is literally her personal life fictionalized down to characters, exactly representing people from her past and facets of her own emotional personality. So that whole thing is decoded in this book for the, for the first time. She hinted that there might be elements of that, but literally she wrote an entire bestselling novel, hiding her personal story in plain, in plain sight for millions of readers who up till now, didn't have the information to,

[01:03:12] to work all that out. So that was a major, I mean, a major thing, which people are going to dive into in the book again, sad, but that you go back to that theme of a person who's just lived real life. She's lived a gritty earthy life. uh, uh, and the amazing thing to her credit is, as you said, she was writing the bestselling book series of all time through all this for 17 years and making it funny and, and scary and uplifting and, uh, and adventurous. You know,

[01:03:41] even experiences like she worked for amnesty international, the left-wing human rights organization in her twenties. And she was investigating human rights abuses in West Africa and countries of military dictatorships. She saw people with her own eyes who collapsed in horror and sadness when they found out that some dictatorship had, uh, killed their mother for speaking out against the government. I mean, JK was witnessing those kinds of things all through her twenties. And then that's exactly the kinds of things you see Voldemort doing. So it's,

[01:04:11] it's not, it's not just from her personal story, but from the real world as well. I mean, she's seen a lot of evil, but in the case of Harry Potter, you use the word transcending. Well, that's exactly what it does. Harry Potter transcends it. He, he arrives, he reaches a better world. He makes this world better. All the corny stuff, all the cliched stuff, which JK herself did think about the billions of people who have read her books, who have been transported to a more noble, you know, um,

[01:04:40] not comforting necessarily, but noble, uplifting, invigorating, thrilling existence through her mind. Um, one mind that created all of that, all those characters, all the plot. Clearly, I think her billion dollars is justified. I wish, I wish anybody ill will. Sure. I've done something so incredible. It wasn't handed to her. She didn't inherit it. She wasn't given it. She didn't steal it. No, she earned every single dollar. And of course, you know, she put her blood,

[01:05:09] sweat and tears into those pages. Yeah. I want to switch gears here. I'd like to talk about your podcast, your YouTube channel. Yeah. Uh, really interesting. You know, I've, I'm pretty well traveled. I've been to 71 different countries. Um, you know, uh, some of it was for work. Some of it wasn't. Tried to travel a lot with my daughter when she was young to open the world up for her. I raised my daughter predominantly by myself. Her mom participated, started really participating at a higher level when she turned about 15 or 16. But up until then, it was mostly myself and my mother.

[01:05:39] I was fortunate to have my mom to, to help me with it. You know, sometimes that's a double-edged sword because you know, your mom may imprint my, I didn't have a perfect childhood. My mom was a much better grandmother in my opinion than she was a mother. I believe she struggled with some mental health issues when I was young. Uh, but let's talk about it. Let's yeah. Let's talk about this. Let's talk about what you, what brought you to do this. I think it's an amazing product. I looked at it. Uh, I think anybody that hasn't traveled for anybody in the audience, first off, you guys are in the chat and you have any questions for Solomon,

[01:06:09] don't be shy. Stop being shy. There's thousands and thousands of you people in here. Get in that fricking chat. Let's hear from you. you know, it doesn't just need to be the mods and our regular subscribers. We want to hear and hit the follow button right now. Hit that subscribe button. You know, the paid subscription fantastic. It's only five bucks a month, but just hit it. Cause you'll get notifications on great interviews like this. Let's talk about this. What, first of all, made you decide to do this? And then maybe give us some of the most amazing places or things that occurred. Cause when I have traveled, there's always something that has surprised me. For example,

[01:06:38] when I was in Belgium, I'd always seen the piss boy statues. Right. And I'd never seen piss boy in person, which of course is a very famous sculpture in Belgium. Right. By a very famous artist. Sure. But I thought it was going to be this amazing. I had never looked at the history. I thought we were going to piss boy was going to be in a square and it was going to be gigantic. And as I moved my way towards the piss boy sculpture and when I saw it, it's about this big and it's sticking inside of a wall in a very small building. It was not what I expected.

[01:07:07] And there was many times where I traveled that my perception of what was going to be, you know, a leading tower pizza was absolutely what I thought it was. You know, Romulus and Remus, the statue is exactly what I thought it was. But there are many times. I saw something like, wait a minute. That's not what I thought. How the hell did that story get twisted around? Give me some of those moments and tell the audience where they can find the show. I think it's a great show. I think everybody, especially kids should watch it because it opens up there.

[01:07:35] I think everybody should travel because your perspective of the world will change dramatically. So jump in there and let's, let's talk about that. Yeah. Thanks. I appreciate all that Lance. It's history bites. And let me say for starters, how about Antarctica is like really hot when you're standing on those glaciers next to those penguins and the sun's reflecting off the ice, you're baking, baking, getting sunburned. So that's one thing. No, but in, in, in seriousness, you said, you said it right. I've had a blessed childhood. I had a dad who grew up with a tough childhood,

[01:08:05] but who was able to build some great businesses. And we've been able to travel together pretty extensively. And we've, we visited seven continents together, filming videos based on my history bite series. A lot of the ones we've done that are the travel videos are based on my book, great adventures, history bites. So I have lots of stories. Here's a couple. One amazing experience I had was there's this guy. Nobody's ever heard about. They know about him in Norway.

[01:08:34] He's like Neil Armstrong over there. Thor Heyerdahl. In 1947, he drifted 5,000 miles across the Pacific on a wooden raft to prove a scientific theory. He's an absolute legend in Norway. He's one of the great heroes of their country and met and knew his son and was able to go to Norway and travel around with him and learn all about his dad, go to the museum where they had his raft. Um, that was an amazing trip. I went to Nepal to the Mount Everest base camp to film about Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay,

[01:09:03] the first guys up to the top of Everest. And I had a really, um, just life-changing experience there because the first time I went was 2021 and got stuck there during a COVID lockdown. Nepal's a communist country. It's one of the poorest countries in the world. When I say lockdown, I mean armed guards on every block of that city, Kathmandu in Nepal. If you walked outside your hotel with a non-essential reason, you were put in jail, whether you were American or otherwise.

[01:09:32] If you, if you sneezed the wrong way, you were thrown into a COVID hospital and pumped with medications against your will. It was a really bad time. But what it did to me, a 16 year old kid at the time who had never been outside really any United States or England, essentially, it showed me the way people have to live in what they call third world countries. It was eye-opening, it changed my whole vision of the world, what I believed I needed to do with my life, um, what the purpose of my life was. Uh,

[01:10:00] so you talk about the eye-opening parts of travel. Emotionally, that was super eye-opening for me. But then I've had other crazy things, you know, explorers in Australia. 150 years ago, these two guys, Robert, um, Burke and, uh, William Wills, they crossed Australia from the South to the North. They were the first guys to do it. They starved to death on the way back. It was a horrible story. One of the worst adventure stories you could ever hear about. My dad and I flew to Australia, rented a car,

[01:10:29] drove 800 miles through the outback to the tree where these guys were starving to death. 150 years ago. It was a national park, but it was so desolate, so remote that no one was even there. Um, it was like the wild west on steroids. I've never been in a spot, including in Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, you name it, where there was absolute utter death, desolation for hours on end. We drove four and a half hours without seeing another car. Uh, you, you looked in either direction and there was nothing, no shrub,

[01:10:59] nothing on the horizon, but, but flat, dusty landscape for, for miles in any direction. Uh, crazy stuff like that. The world's a beautiful place. It's an interesting place. It's a scary place. Um, you know, one of the really emotionally stirring stories among many was filming about the missionary David Livingston in Tanzania, who ended the East African slave trade in the 1800s. He was like, Abraham Lincoln. I mean, a lot of people haven't heard about him,

[01:11:28] but this guy freed 600,000 people from imprisonment. And, uh, we went around Tanzania filming, his entire story. And today, um, there's a tropical island in the Indian ocean off the coast of Africa where all those slaves were brought 200 years ago to be sold in the market. Thanks to that missionary, David Livingston, that market was destroyed, um, was, was done away with. And today there's a church built over top of that market, uh, where that slave market was.

[01:11:58] But the catacombs where the slaves were imprisoned are still there. I've been in those catacombs, touched the very chains that were used to hold these people 200 years ago. So there's a lot of experiences like that that jump out at me. And I've been thrilled to be able to film all that captured on camera to share it with folks. Um, still uploading a lot of videos as we speak. We've been able to do interviews with, um, some people I found very interesting. Jane Goodall, Mike Tyson, Dershowitz, uh,

[01:12:28] lots of other folks. Um, so I could go on ad nauseum, but that's the History Bites YouTube channel. Hopefully inspiring, enthralling, sometimes uplifting, sometimes scary, but hopefully always interesting stories to get kids excited about learning history, that history is not some subject in a dusty textbook on a shelf. It's just stories of what amazing or terrible people did. 10, 50, 100, a thousand years ago. You know, you know,

[01:12:57] when you look at the origins of man, I spent a lot of time in Norgon and Africa, you know, more, and Molly, Niger, Chad, you know, Dakar, you know, Sierra Leone, Lagos. I was all over there. Cameroon years ago. And there's so much, uh, historical, uh, questions I have. Because when you start seeing the architecture and you start noticing, you know, uh, historical remnants of, of these previous cultures,

[01:13:25] you start to really question about what the history really is. What did they hide? It's kind of like the books that have been taken out of the Bible. You know, I'd love to, I'd love to raid the Vatican's, uh, you know, uh, library catacombs of all the stuff that's been hidden. Because of course the Catholic church, you know, wanted to stay in power no matter what. So anything that didn't go along with the, their ideology or their agenda or the history that had been presented by the Catholic church, uh, they didn't want into existence. Right. When you look at the,

[01:13:55] the Knights of Malta and you look at the Illuminati and you start really, but when you're in these, when you're in Northern Africa and you see the, the, uh, what's going on there, right? Togo, Ben and, you know, and you're all through there and you just, you know, and I was working, but you could see stuff and you're like, holy crap. And it didn't go along with what you've been told. I don't care if it's a small museum. I don't care if it's some, and did you find yourself sometimes wondering who was controlling the history? Cause there were a lot of times in my head. I never really, the guys I was around weren't really,

[01:14:25] that wasn't their thing. You know what I mean? Uh, so they didn't really, it wasn't really what they, they were paying attention to other things. I was paying attention to everything is the thing is, and I have a moderately photogenic memory. So I can remember certain instances where I was like, like in Guinea, I remember seeing some things there. I said, wait a minute, that doesn't go along with what they told us. Do you feel like history has been, you know, you've, you, you, you got started very early. You're highly educated. Your parents did an incredible job with you. Do you feel like that behind the scenes,

[01:14:54] and I can't tell you who I think it is, cause I'm not sure. I know a lot of people say there's 109 or 106 people that coordinate kind of what happens with the, the economies and the world governments and who's in power and who isn't, that they work behind the scenes. Do I believe that? Well, I know this where there's smoke, there's fire. I have enough questions and enough facts that, you know, one of the things that intelligence organizations use, it hit the best lies. Are there lies that are intertwined with shreds of truth.

[01:15:22] If you want to tell a great lie, there has to be some truth in it because otherwise the lie floats on its own. And also if you tell a lie and you don't intertwine with shreds of truth, if you have to retell the lie, you may not remember it. You know, a lot of times they say, you know, when you're telling lies in the intelligence world, you're supposed to attach it to a visual card. You can use like the queen of diamonds. You're going to make a statement. If you don't put a visual item with it, your lie may, may start to, you know, it might start to, you know, move and take a life of its own where the lie doesn't really hold in

[01:15:52] place. So if you put it with shreds of truth, do you feel like when you, when you, when you've been traveling and you know what you read in the history books, you know what you read in the encyclopedias, you know what your parents presented because they were trying to present the material was there. They probably did a better job than most in a school. It might even been worse. Do you feel like there's more going on than anybody fricking thinks? Well, I think I can't say I've had the experience you described. I have had one thing that jumps to mind though. When you talk about early civilizations. Yeah.

[01:16:21] It was in Petra in Jordan, which for folks who don't know, if you've ever seen Indiana Jones and the last crusade with Sean Connery and Harrison Ford, that's that temple carved into the red cliff. 4,000 years ago, the Nabataean Arab tribe carved an ornate city out of thousands of feet high of a cliff face. And you look at that and you go, holy smokes, how sophisticated were these civilizations? We have absolutely no idea about that.

[01:16:49] When in terms of traveling around and like, what doesn't res, what doesn't seem right to me, things like the thing I don't appreciate is, you know, what they talk about the rewriting of history, where you go to say Mount Vernon and George Washington. And you hear about one perspective of why he had slaves, but they don't tell you, you know, the, the side of him, which was he freed his slaves and, and other aspects,

[01:17:18] which isn't to say he was good or slavery was good or anything like that. But that's certainly something I've seen that I don't appreciate, which is the failing to see people in their context, or even people like say Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee. Yeah. I'm condoning slavery at all, but I have a lot of friends from the South. I've done a bit of research on Stonewall Jackson. Let me tell you, he was a good guy. He taught Sunday school for black kids. He wasn't defending the enslavement and torture of women and children. He was fighting for his state,

[01:17:47] for what he believed was his country. You don't, you're not told that when you go to Robert E. Lee's house in Washington, DC, you're just told he was a, you know, a slave owning bastard. And you're not, and, and, and you're, he's put on the same level as Adolf Hitler, virtually, maybe not Hitler, Stalin. And you don't, you know, you walk into a museum like that. And a person who doesn't potentially know any better, or who hasn't read the other accounts, say from a more, you know, pro Southern side,

[01:18:17] you would have no idea. But that narrative that's been accepted over 150 years. And as Churchill said, you know, to the victor, you know, the history is written by the victors again, want to be so careful, not condoning slavery at all. But that's just like, that's something that concerns me for sure that I've personally seen when I've gone around to different monuments. Yeah. I entrenched myself into American history and American revolution. When I was young, I grew up on white planes and white planes, New York. First it was Fordham road in the Bronx. My parents made a little bit of money.

[01:18:46] They bought a house for $9,000 and what battle Hill. So I grew up around that battle. That was a big deal in the American revolution. And I, when I was young, I won an award from the daughters of the American revolution. I took a third place, whatever. I wrote this article about a guy named Francis Marion. He was this, he was known as the swamp Fox during the American revolution. Yeah. Interesting character. Patriot. Yeah. Total Patriot. But the point is, you know, I, when I look at history, you know, and I,

[01:19:13] and I remember certain things and then I see something that's in conflict. And I wonder why would they do that? You know, you, you question, you start to question what's the reasoning, who did it? Why did they do it? Was it political? Was it ideology? You know, what made it happen? George, I don't, you know, I don't, George, I want to hear from you when you've traveled, George, is there anything that's made an incredible impression on you? Anywhere you've been that you thought, wow, this is really pretty unbelievable. It's not what I expected or the opposite. This sucks. Cause I've had that experience.

[01:19:42] Of course I've eaten a lot of strange things. I like to try strange foods. I don't think I'd try Indian street food for a number of reasons. I try to not try food that people use their feet to prepare. So I try to stay away from that in general. George, what about you, man? Give me some of your stuff, bro. Something that sucks. Uh, let's see. Maybe something sucks. Maybe something you saw in one of the, holy crap. This is traveling in Egypt, just traveling. I don't know, through the desert, fucking hot as hell. And then you're sleeping. Ain't no hotels or nothing. You're like in a hut and it, and it's try sleeping in that thing.

[01:20:12] It's hot as hell or walking on the sand. It's hot as hell. But I mean, no, I mean, I've got culture brought up with a lot of culture. So, I mean, seeing monuments and stuff like that, it's amazing to see the way people, you know, they built things back in the day from, you know, look at Italy everywhere. but yeah, you know, there's good and bad people in every race all over the world. And I mean, nothing surprising me. I always like, um,

[01:20:41] like when I was in Bahrain, you can, you know, you can eat by the hotels, but if you go into like, into town to where the locals are, and you have to go to just the local restaurants, the food is just amazing. It's like homemade food. And that's even everywhere in other countries too. It's just, you just have to go out and see culture. Yeah. I was, you know, when I, one of the places I went to Italy that I really loved, I went there a couple of times. Cause I got really close to a guy that runs the hotel. Daniele was Venice. And I think for anybody that hasn't seen Venice, you know, it's sinking.

[01:21:11] I don't know when, when it won't be approachable. You know, there are times in high tide, low tide, and there'll be, there'll be water in the lobbies and they issue rubber boots. Cause you have to walk through the lobbies of water. But that kind of blew me away. There was a lot of things there. Uh, I was lucky because I got to know a local guy. He was his name, Roberto. He's the, he was the food and beverage manager at hotel Daniele, which is a place I prefer to stay when I go there. And there's something seen in a book to me.

[01:21:40] That was always the epiphany moment. You know, you know, I took a picture of my daughter holding up the, uh, the leaning tower pizza. He's like, you know, the stupid, the stupid traveling photo. I still laugh when I look at it, you know, she got to take her there. I took her to, you know, I took her on a cruise with my mom. My mom hadn't traveled a lot. I'd made some money on a deal and I took some of the money and it took us on a 45 day cruise, started off in, you know, architecture, of course, Gaudi, you know,

[01:22:10] very well known around the world. Those crazy, uh, the, the crazy church, you know, his, that he built. You just, the Sagrada. You just can't even, yeah. And you can't even believe that somebody built that. So to me, that was eyeopening and the people, uh, you know, for anybody that hasn't traveled, if you have an opportunity, stop thinking that, you know, going to the Mount Rushmore or going to Washington, DC is enough. I'm not telling you don't see this country. You got to get out of here. You got to see it from a different perspective for our audience. If you have been hesitant to go, you need to go that your lifetime is short.

[01:22:39] Time is the most precious commodity we have on that note. I know we're out of time. Uh, Solomon, first of all, thank you very much. Thank you. I appreciate you taking your time. Cause like I just said, time is a very, very finite, uh, finite, you know, resource for all of us. So thanks for taking out of your schedule, but I want to do this for you. I want to give you the shameless plug. Yeah. Let's talk about your books. Give them the YouTube channel again, give them your social media. We got to try to get your social media. We did follow you, George.

[01:23:09] Did you follow Solomon? I followed you from our, from my personal account from the big, big show account, George. I don't know if you followed him yet. He did follow us earlier today. Take, and let me say this, take any of this, take the interview, take the short form, the long form. You can use it in any way you want, put it on your own website, use the rumble link. I don't care how you do it. Feel free to use anything that came from the show. Right. So let's do, let's go. Let's go shameless plug, bro. Let's hit it. Shameless plug. Uh, the book on JK, a pen to change the world is out June 23rd from Skyhorse. It's available wherever books are sold, Amazon,

[01:23:39] Barnes and Noble, all that. My website for the history bites series for kids is history bites.com. And then my social media handles are all under the name Solomon Schmidt, Facebook X, Instagram. Um, and the YouTube channels also called history bites as well. So, uh, yeah, but that's, that's top of my plate right now is the, uh, JK Rowling biography, a pen to change the world. It's actually rolling. You probably, I, I, I still stumble over that name. People say, if you, uh,

[01:24:08] if you forget if it's Rowling or rolling, you, you just have to remember rolling and money. That was the tagline years ago. So the biography on JK Rowling is out June 23rd, pen to change the world. I appreciate you guys having me on a lot. This was fun. I learned a lot. And we appreciate the transparency and just how forthcoming you were. You know, interviews are interesting things. You just never really know what to expect because you don't want an individual, but for us, interviews are like a box. You never know what to expect. You never know what to expect. It's a couple of guys from back East. I'm sure we mispronounce tons of stuff, but I don't give a shit. You know,

[01:24:38] why you always corrected me, bro. When I, if I mispronounce a name, listen, you corrected me the other day and you were right. I can't remember what we were talking about, but you were right. The problem is it's, it's, it's authenticity, right? I'm not going to be anything different than what I am. I know what I am at this point in my, my age. I, you know, I'm trying to grow. I'm trying to be a smarter guy, more intelligent guy, but you know, it's, I'm still a kid from the Bronx. You take the kid out of the Bronx. You can't take the, all right, let's go. George last words, buddy. What do you got? It's hump day. You thought I forgot, right? Damn it.

[01:25:06] I thought we were going to get away without the negative ghost rider. It's hump day. Y'all have a great day humping. We'll catch you tomorrow. I love you guys. Peace. I might, I might, I might, I might, I might, I might, I might, I might have to let it dry. I said, got it. I might.

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