Monday, September 9, 2024

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[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Hour 2 Hour 2
[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_01]: anything to educate people, motivate them, very important.
[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, we're going to be talking about some of the issues that will be addressed
[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_01]: when we gather together at the end of this week.
[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But most importantly, I want to welcome back to the microphone Jonathan Sines,
[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_01]: who is the president of Texas Values. Before that, he used to work with Liberty Institute.
[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: He is an individual that graduated from the University of Texas at Austin,
[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_01]: has his law degree from the University of Houston Law Center,
[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and is the individual that has pulled together an incredible gathering of individuals.
[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That will be taking place September 13th and 14th. Jonathan, welcome back.
[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Kirby, it's good to be with you again.
[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Again, Governor Mike Huckabee, Congressman Chip Roy, Senator Bob Hall.
[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Those are all people who have been on the program.
[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Mary Margaret O'Lahan, we talked with her the other day about the idea of trans issues.
[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael Knowles, I mean the list goes on and on and on,
[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: as well as a number of other individuals that are running for office.
[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Talk about this because it is the largest event of its kind in the state of Texas,
[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe the largest in the country. And yet I have found that you have put together
[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_01]: something that other states could do fairly well because right now candidates are looking
[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_01]: for a forum. And if you can draw an audience, they're ready to come and speak to that audience.
[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, look, I mean this is what we do best, Kirby, is we create opportunities for people of faith,
[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_00]: for Texans, for Christians to find out what's going on right now. What do they need to know
[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: before they go to the ballot box? What do they need to know before they go to the Texas
[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Capitol in January when our state legislative session starts? What do they need to know when
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_00]: they're at the dinner table tonight and they're talking to their kids about what's going on
[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_00]: in their classrooms? And also about their own faith. And really a lot of times, Kirby, I think
[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: you and I are very involved in this type of work, faith, family, and freedom.
[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And so we can sometimes not realize that a large majority of people are not aware of a
[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_00]: lot of these things. They never heard of Coach Joe Kennedy who's going to be speaking.
[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's okay. Listen, there's a lot of people there. We, and honestly, sometimes
[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_00]: we're like, okay, we need to hire someone just to keep track of all the people that are speaking
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: at our event. But the reason that it's such a robust list and group of speakers is because
[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_00]: it's spread out over two days, right? And there are a lot of people that are involved
[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_00]: in important work and we want people to just get a touch with them, right? Maybe you don't
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_00]: meet them again. Maybe you hear them speak for half an hour. But there's something about
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: meeting these people in person. So we challenge ourselves to fill every hour of the day of this
[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_00]: event as much as possible with what's going on and relevant. You know, I love my friend,
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Coach Joe Kennedy. I saw him in the Dallas-Fort Worth area the other day at the red carpet
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: event for the God's Not Dead movie that's coming out on September 12th. And I mean,
[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_00]: look, this is a guy who fought for eight years so he could take a knee and pray after
[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: a high school football game, had to go up to the Supreme Court. We know he's represented
[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_00]: by our good friend, Kelly Shackelford. Now we're trying to get state legislation that
[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_00]: makes it clear how these things work because a lot of times the school districts are like,
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_00]: well, we don't understand how that court decision came out. We're not really sure
[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_00]: what to do. And they act like there's a lot of confusion when there isn't.
[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But Coach Joe Kennedy, man, that guy just has a lot of enthusiasm and energy and just
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_00]: in hearing his story because you hear the end result, right? Like, oh, he won. That's great.
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You all know the stuff that happened before that point, which is just, you know, borders on
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: miracles. But I also know part of this, Kirby, is these are people that we work with all the
[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_00]: time and we're like, gosh, if they could hear from people like Vanessa Sivitz, this is the
[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: nurse, Kirby, who put everything on the line when she thought there was Medicaid fraud at
[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Texas Children's Hospital hiding how they're involved in these gender transition and puberty
[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_00]: blocker methods on kids after they had told the public they weren't doing any of that.
[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Two weeks ago, they fired her. She was involved in trying to really do her best to just get
[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_00]: transferred somewhere else and let this play out. But she had to come forward.
[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And so also a doctor who was there at the same time had some things that he came across
[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_00]: that was concerned about. The Department of Justice has indicted him, Dr. Aton Hime.
[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_00]: The guy was in his residency at the same time that Texas Children's Hospital was telling
[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_00]: elected officials and the public, we're not doing any of these transition procedures on kids.
[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: This was last year when we were passing a bill on this, Senate Bill 14. He was like, wait a
[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_00]: minute, I was just in a room where y'all were doing this. So both of them are going to speak
[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: about their experience at our events. Going to be incredible. And again, I might just mention
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: that these are kind of a who's who of individuals, some of whom you already know
[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: of others that are sort of rising stars. And that's a great opportunity. Let's if we can,
[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_01]: because I of course get your newsletter and one of those talks about all the rights that you have
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: all listeners all over the country right now, their kids have gone back to school.
[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But parents have certain rights, students have certain rights. And I know that's one
[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: of the things you're going to be talking about at the conference. But give us an overview
[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: because if somebody is saying, I'm afraid that they told my student that they couldn't do
[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: this, that or the other. We have a lot more rights because of people like Coach Joe Kennedy
[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_00]: and others, don't we? Well, that's right. And I encourage people to go to the Texas
[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_00]: values Facebook page on Friday and Saturday. We are going to be live streaming some
[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_00]: segments of the event, not the entire thing, but be watching because a couple of those will
[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_00]: be live streamed so you can get a benefit of that. But, you know, Kirby, there are
[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_00]: people that come from other states. If people decide to do that and make the drive, make the
[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_00]: flight, take the train. We got some speakers coming from different states and some from DC.
[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It would be worthwhile because you can take some of the ideas that you hear about in Texas,
[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_00]: we're part of the family policy council network. Many of those other states have a group like
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_00]: ours, like Jonathan Keller in California. If you want something done there, go talk to
[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Jonathan Keller and Jerry Cox in Arkansas. You're right. There are tremendous amount of
[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: freedoms for public school students. In the program, the booklet this year, we're going
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: to have a list of a lot of different things, some tool kits, some really easy one-pagers
[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_00]: for people to look through and know what their rights are. But we're four or five
[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: weeks into the school schedule for K through 12th, and a lot of people are still grappling
[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: with this. They're hearing about the election talk and all these different things, and
[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_00]: they're still not sure what are my rights? What can I do? What can I not do? Texas
[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: has some very robust religious freedoms that we have, not only during the school day,
[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_00]: but after the fact. And there's been these things we've litigated over the years,
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_00]: like just talking about Christmas and things of that nature. The state board of education
[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_00]: meeting next week on whether or not we can teach about the Bible from a historical
[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_00]: perspective. There is tremendous amount of educational benefit to students knowing
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_00]: about some things that they talk about in the Bible, stories that we've all heard
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: and different literary themes that people draw from and so on. But we're going
[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_00]: to have that toolkit there. We're going to talk about those different things.
[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But being there in person is just absolutely extraordinary. But we're in a time, Kirby,
[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_00]: a lot of people are saying this election is the most important of our lifetime.
[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And who knows? That may be the case. And so you might think, oh, I know all these things,
[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: but what about your friend? Maybe you invite a friend to this event or maybe you get this
[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_00]: information from online or on our website if you can't attend in person. And it's
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_00]: a conversation starter. As a matter of fact, we have a little koozie to keep your drink cold.
[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I have a very excessive diet coke habit. I want to keep my diet coke cool. And that
[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: koozie says, don't California my sexist values. Maybe that starts a conversation with your friend.
[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to take a break and continue our conversation with John
[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Assine. All that coming up right after this. This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson.
[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, in previous commentaries have quoted Michael Schellenberger and his book
[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Apocalypse Never that deals with environmental issues. But his latest book documents the
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_01]: problem of homelessness in one city. The title is San Francisco, Why Progressives Ruin Cities.
[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: He documents various reasons why the homeless problem has become worse.
[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Limited housing has been one reason. Expensive housing and warmer climates explain why you
[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_01]: find the homeless in places like California, Florida and Hawaii. Not only is the climate
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_01]: warmer, but the real estate costs are very high. Drugs and substance abuse are another issue.
[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_01]: In the past, Michael Schellenberger promoted the decriminalization of drugs. But now he's
[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_01]: changed his mind. For example, drug overdoses are the number one cause of accidental death.
[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: He also notes this interesting irony. He says no state in America has taken more aggressive
[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_01]: action to reduce the public's exposure to chemicals and to secondhand smoke than California.
[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But while cities and the state focus on the remote dangers of cosmetics,
[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: pesticides and secondhand smoke, they downplay the immediate dangers of hard drugs, including
[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: fentanyl. Mental illness is another reason for homelessness. While there are 52 million people
[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: that suffer from mental illness, about 13 million adults are seriously mentally ill. A significant
[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_01]: percentage of them are now on the streets because of policies that force their release
[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: from psychiatric hospitals. And people with serious mental illness are more likely to be
[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_01]: homeless, more likely to interact with drug dealers and more likely to be victimized.
[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_01]: His book reminds us that to deal with a problem of homelessness, we need to look at root causes,
[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_01]: not just symptoms. I'm Kirby Anderson and that's my point of view.
[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Very important Texas Faith Family and Freedom Forum, but look for something similar in your own
[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_01]: particular state or certainly if you don't have one, create it. It would be something that really
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: is important. If you go right now to txvalues.org policy forum, you'll find out information. But
[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: again, as Jonathan mentioned just a minute ago, just go to txvalues.org. You can get
[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: some information there. There's of course a voter's guide. There is also an opportunity
[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: for you to download some of the information from Texas values onto your smartphone. So we have
[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: information about that on the website and if you're traveling right now, don't have a chance to
[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_01]: write it down, it's all available at our website at pointofview.net. What do you think are
[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: going to be some of the big issues? I know that you've been really working right now to
[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_01]: protect Texas women and girls. I was noticing the other day that one of the articles that
[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_01]: on the website here is that no longer can in the state of Texas a man apply to get a woman
[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: ID card. So there are some things that are significantly changing in the state of Texas
[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_01]: that could be applied to other states around the country. Well, listen Kirby, a big reason
[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_00]: why we have the Texas Faith Fest is what we're calling it now for short for the seventh year
[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_00]: because we want to put strong, accurate and effective information in the hands of people
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: across the state of Texas. And if it helps you in your state and you've got a national audience,
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_00]: great or try to put some of these laws in place there because a lot of times people
[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: aren't aware of it, right? They're not aware of what was going on with the driver's license
[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: issue and fraud that could go on with that. And you know, it's interesting you mentioned
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_00]: about some of the speakers we have and it's an incredible lineup. I think close to 40 speakers
[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_00]: quite a bit to manage. But there's always a couple of people that are on their way up.
[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You just don't know for sure yet, but you can see it two years ago, there was a phenomenal
[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_00]: young lady named Riley Gaines. There you go. She was on a panel with three other people,
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Kirby. We met her at CPAC and we're like, wow, we have got to get her in front of more
[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_00]: people. She's got an incredible story. Now she keynotes events. She keynoted event for us
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_00]: in Midland, Texas a couple of months ago. There's another young lady named Macy Petty.
[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_00]: That's sort of like a younger version of Riley Gaines. She's going to speak at our event. She's
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_00]: a former college athlete. She's a volleyball player. She's going to be sensational. Look,
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_00]: one of the big conversations that I want to speak to my Texas crowd for just a second,
[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_00]: if you don't mind. One of the most important panels of this event on Friday and Saturday
[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_00]: of this weekend is about the Speaker of the House race. Who is going to be the next Texas
[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Speaker of the House? And I can tell you now because it's about to go live on our website.
[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That's taking place on Saturday. That's going to be at like 12 or 1230. You're going to have
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_00]: a very important panel. Representative Tom Oliverson, who's already declared to run against
[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Dave Fielding, who's the current speaker. Shelby Slauson, who's from the North Texas area. She's
[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_00]: one that carried the Texas heartbeat law. She said she wants to be the next Speaker of the
[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: House. And Briscoe Kane, who's a state representative from the Houston area that was
[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: a Dave Fielding supporter and now is saying, hey, we need to look at other options. Listen,
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_00]: bring your popcorn. This is going to be a very important panel. I cannot guarantee you that
[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_00]: we'll live stream it, but there is a very good chance of it. But you're going to want to
[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_00]: hear from me there in person. There is a slight chance that we have another person that we're
[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_00]: going to add to that panel that's relevant to this conversation. But look, you know this,
[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Kirby, when we get a lot of great stuff done in the Senate, but a lot of times it gets
[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: held up in the House. This is why Dave Fielding got challenged in his primary. David
[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Covey is going to introduce the panel. He's the one that challenged Dave Fielding in his
[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: recent primary that he barely won. This is one of the most important conversations for
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: the rest of the country. Because a lot of people look to Texas. If the Texas House is
[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_00]: not getting good work done, that's going to affect other people. That's going to
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_00]: be a tremendous conversation on Saturday afternoon. Well, again, for people that
[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_01]: are not familiar in this particular circumstance in the state of Texas, the Speaker doesn't
[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_01]: want something to come to the floor vote. That's it. Even in the House of Representatives,
[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: when Nancy Pelosi was the Speaker, if she did not want something to come to the floor,
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: you could get what was called a discharge petition. There's some real concerning issues
[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: in some of these state legislatures, and that is certainly one of those. But I thought I'd
[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: pick up one other issue because you're known certainly for talking about the rights of
[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_01]: students. But you also have been pointing out just this sort of woke anti-religious curriculum.
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You have an article there as well. I would encourage people to go to txvalues.org. Scroll
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_01]: down. You'll see woke anti-religious activists launch bias study, want all references to
[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Christianity out. Sometimes what happens in Texas develops and goes to other states.
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why fighting some of the curriculum in your local school district or in this case,
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_01]: in your local state is going to influence students all over the country.
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: No, you're absolutely right. A lot of the publishers for your regular books that are
[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: printed and even instructional materials that are now digital and online are heavily
[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_00]: influenced by Texas because we're one of the largest purchasers of those for K-12 schools.
[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So they're going to lean more in the direction for the rest of the country of
[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_00]: what gets approved in Texas. We have an elected State Board of Education. They're a 15th
[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: to 15 member body, and they're sort of the gatekeepers of what goes into the public
[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_00]: school classroom. And so they take votes on these different issues in almost every three,
[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_00]: four, five, if not six or seven years. And there's a meeting about this next week at
[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_00]: State Board of Education. The same group of people, if you will, try to pull these historical
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: references. You know, if you go to the U.S. Supreme Court, you'll see Moses in the 10
[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Commandments depicted in so many different ways. You'll see other different biblical
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_00]: references. But you know what? Even some people that are sort of your liberal academics,
[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_00]: however you want to characterize them, not sort of the regular folks like us on the
[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Christian rites, so to speak, they even say that there is literary value, right? That
[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_00]: academic value to knowing about so many of the things that the Bible teaches. I mean,
[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: it's the most popular book that has ever been printed to begin with. But every time,
[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, every so often we see people that will try to push back and take those
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and remove those references. The Supreme Court has already said it's legal to have
[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_00]: these things in there. That is about history. It's about the literature and the impact of
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_00]: that. And we shouldn't be trying to erase our historical context and references
[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_00]: and where we came from. That's what a lot of people want to do. They want you to believe
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_00]: that we were never ordained. You know, we're not now a Judeo-Christian country. And we know that
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_00]: that history is all over the place. Our good friend David Barton and other people have made
[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_00]: that case. But we're going to talk a lot about that at this event. One other thing I want to
[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_00]: leave you with, because this is about the effect of being there in person. One of our
[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_00]: speakers who's going to keynote on Saturday is Melissa Oden. She survived an abortion
[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_00]: attempt, seven and a half months in the womb. All right. She's now a woman adult age. She
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_00]: goes around the country. She leads the abortion survivors network. You know, we have a pro-life
[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_00]: state now in Texas, but that could change every two years depending on who's in the
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Texas Capitol. A lot of other states though have not moved that direction. Tell people
[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_00]: about Melissa Oden. Listen to her speak. Bring her to your state so she can make this
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_00]: issue real. Her story, the way she talks about it, her journey, it's absolutely incredible.
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_00]: She's walking proof of why we should be protecting life. So again, a lot of very important issues in
[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: terms of religious liberty. In terms of the curriculum, I thought I'd just mention it real
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: quickly because one of the individuals complained that in the curriculum they referred to Reverend
[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Martin Luther King Jr. as being a Christian. Oh my gosh! I would imagine most of our
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_01]: African-American listeners here would be going, really? I mean these are the kinds of things
[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: are being attacked in Austin, which sometimes reminds me of Madison, Wisconsin or Sacramento,
[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_01]: California, a variety of other places. But nevertheless, these are the battles that you're
[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_01]: fighting. And so if you want to be equipped one last time again, it is the seventh annual Texas
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Faith Family and Freedom Forum. If you're in Texas, I think you got to be there. If you're
[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: not and you'd like to get some of the information, some of the articles, and maybe
[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_01]: have a chance to watch it, that is all available at txvalues.org. And I appreciate the work that
[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_01]: you're doing there. I appreciate your enthusiasm and we certainly need to get people educated,
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_00]: motivated and activated, don't we? Now there's no doubt. And look, it's Monday so talk to
[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_00]: me on Thursday. I might have a little less energy but I doubt it. This is one of my
[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_00]: favorite days and weeks of the year because I know what we're going to offer. I know there
[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_00]: are going to be people that are going to come to this event. It's going to change their life.
[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no exaggeration. People are blown away sometimes by these stories. When they heard
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Chloe Cole, who went through a gender transition at 12 and then at 16 or 17 said, I don't want
[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_00]: to do this and went through the heartbreak of realizing there were some things she
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: couldn't change back. And now she's talking to teenagers and saying, please don't do this.
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_00]: When you hear it and see it in person, it's at a whole other level. TexasFaithFest.com
[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe you just want to support this effort. You can make a donation. These events do get
[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_00]: expensive but look, if you're around Friday night, Kirby, your good friend, Governor Mike
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Huckabee, he's speaking at a dinner over beautiful Lake Travis at the Oasis restaurant.
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a phenomenal couple of days but I encourage people, if you can't make
[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_00]: to the event, check out our social media platforms and sites and you'll see some
[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_00]: highlights. But we still have tickets, a couple of tickets left for the dinner.
[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: We still got a good chunk of tickets. Student tickets are free. We're about to run out of
[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: free student tickets but go to TexasFaithFest.com and get signed up. $25 gets you Chick-fil-A
[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: lunch on Friday and BBQ lunch on Saturday and like 40 speakers. You can't beat that, Kirby.
[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Again, if you want to spend some time with Mike Huckabee and see what's supposed to be
[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: one of those beautiful sunsets in Texas, that is certainly an opportunity as well.
[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So again, we have all of that at txvalues.org. And as always, Jonathan, thank you for joining
[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_01]: us today. All right, God bless you, Kirby. We'll see. Originally, we were trying to even
[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_01]: think of a way in which I could do a live broadcast from there but they started saying
[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: no way. We got to head on up to Peoria, Illinois, which is where we're going to be.
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, as we go to a break, take the time to find out about that on our website
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[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And now here again is Kirby Anderson. Final half hour let me just mention that again we have
[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: information of our two guests today so you can find that on the website. Just a minute we're
[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_01]: going to be talking about a couple of other articles but since I was talking to Jonathan
[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Sines I thought I'd just once again mention that this curriculum which was challenged at
[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: the Texas Board of Education and challenged in part by the Texas Freedom Network, some of
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_01]: course we know they're not. Of course that's the bias of that individual there as well.
[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Another one and I'll leave it at that, the author concerned with this discussion of religious
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_01]: freedom as a major cause of English colonization of America. Okay he's putting in kind of words
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_01]: that sound funny but the idea is did the pilgrims and the Puritans, did they come here
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_01]: because they were seeking religious freedom? I would think that the most secular historian
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_01]: would acknowledge that but apparently not necessarily and these are the kinds of things
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: that sometimes you have to deal with when they're talking about certain curriculum and that's the
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_01]: history curriculum. Tomorrow as a matter of fact we're going to be talking about science
[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_01]: and I can tell you some stories then about the kinds of science questions that are challenged
[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_01]: as well in some of these State Board of Education meetings. So nevertheless just wanted
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_01]: you to know that kind of material is available if you're fighting that battle in your state
[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and you're looking for some good solid intellectual ammunition or information it is available and you
[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_01]: can certainly go to our website and go to txvalues.org. Well we do have a debate tomorrow
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_01]: night and that's why I thought I'd post this article by Matthew Contenetti. It's called the
[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Harris Mystique and he was really asking the question what is the secret to Kamala Harris
[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_01]: because he points out I think accurately that in mid-June she was seen pretty much as a political
[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_01]: liability. Have a doubt? Well it gives you a link so you can go and see the kind of stories
[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_01]: that were coming there. She's now running neck-and-neck with Donald Trump in terms
[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_01]: of running as the presidential nominee. In July still, this is another link, she was
[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: less popular than either Joe Biden or Donald Trump. Now again another link, she is more
[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_01]: popular than both of them if you take the issue of favorability index and so you can kind
[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_01]: of say all right how did this all happen? He goes into talking about a number of other issues
[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_01]: but it isn't that she's a great speaker. She's adequate he points out but she's no Cicero,
[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I love that line, oratory is not her strength. Nor has she become more popular because she's
[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_01]: often in the public eye because she really still has limited her campaign appearances.
[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about how few of these press conferences have been there. She at that time
[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_01]: had not done an official press conference or a solo interview. Now of course you've had one
[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_01]: that's sort of like that so it depends on how you count it and certainly there are some
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_01]: other factors but I think part of that has to do with the media. The media research center
[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_01]: has received 84% positive coverage of her in the first month of her campaign which is very
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: different than the 89% negative coverage during Donald Trump's campaign during the same period.
[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_01]: She's faced very few tough questions and so he really just says a part of that is due
[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: to the press. Part of it is due to the enthusiasm of Democrats who probably concluded especially
[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_01]: after the debate with Donald Trump that Joe Biden is not going to be the nominee nor should be
[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and then also he says that maybe the Harris mystique also depends on ignorance of her past.
[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Most Americans don't know or care that the vice president in a June YouGov poll found that
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_01]: 33% of Americans knew that Democrats had announced Biden's running mate. So interestingly
[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_01]: enough still kind of learning there so she's had a chance to really refashion herself and
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_01]: as a result run away from the fact that back when she was a United States senator and then
[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: tapped as the vice presidential nominee she was the second most liberal senator in the 21st century
[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and certainly the most liberal senator of that particular session more liberal in her voting
[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_01]: record than even Bernie Sanders. These kinds of issues may show up tomorrow night in the debate
[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_01]: they're not going to show up too much from the questions from the panelists so if it isn't
[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_01]: brought up by Donald Trump it will simply never be brought up because the press is not
[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_01]: to bring it up I don't think but we'll see there's always a surprise there as well.
[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: He goes on in some length to talk about the fact that most people really don't know where
[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_01]: she stands on the issues and to broaden it beyond Kamala Harris for just a minute
[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: let's just talk about and again I have a commentary coming out next week on what I call
[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_01]: campaign platitudes now by a platitude I mean you know vague statements that are said time
[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and time again and we're eight weeks out by next week when this commentary comes out
[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_01]: will be seven weeks out and yet if you think about it when we listen to and candidates
[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_01]: whether they're in a press conference whether they're in a town hall meeting whether they're
[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: in a campaign event we don't get very many specific comments and so the question really
[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: running through the 2024 election is this will voters settle on generalities or will they demand
[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: specifics and again let's be honest Kamala Harris is a master of speaking in generalities
[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_01]: don't think so here's just a few she said in our nation I think people are ready to turn the
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_01]: page to what what does that mean one of my highest priorities is to do what we can to
[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_01]: support and strengthen the middle class okay how do we do that we need a new way forward
[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: she uses that a lot of course and every time she uses one of these catch phrases one of these
[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_01]: filler words I mean you sort of ask okay well how are you going to do this I think that's a
[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: reasonable question and if the interviewers tomorrow night don't ask those questions then
[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_01]: they will have failed you because if you're looking for specific specifics and specificity
[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_01]: not going to get a whole lot okay she has proposed a 28 percent tax on long-term capital gains
[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_01]: she's also proposed a tax on unrealized capital gains for taxpayers with high net worth
[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_01]: by the way again that I think is maybe not going to happen but nevertheless is the case
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: but when you're looking for specificity there's really not very much there instead there are
[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_01]: sorts of phrases they talk about hope talk about optimism a way forward but you really
[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_01]: don't have any now you might say well don't you have that with trump well unnecessarily
[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I just mentioned of course the speech he gave before the economic club in New York
[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_01]: in which first of all he talked about extending the previous tax wrecks he gave very specific
[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_01]: statements about a targeted tax cut earlier I talked about establishing a government efficiency
[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_01]: commission I mentioned the fact that this time he wants to remove 10 regulations for a one
[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_01]: regulation and if you think about it the biggest criticism Democrats had of Republicans
[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_01]: if you watch the Democratic National Convention was what of project 2025 now first of all most
[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_01]: people have never read project 2025 but at least you got to admit it is full of recommendations
[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_01]: it's also doubtful that some of those recommendations will be
[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: implemented if Donald Trump wins reelection but whether you like them or not you got to
[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_01]: admit that if you go through a 900 page document it is full of detailed and specific statements
[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and yet that was what was being criticized so I think the real question is will the voters
[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_01]: settle for generalities or will they demand specifics I could certainly come to your state
[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and talk about how again we get these general statements sometimes the Democrats will talk
[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_01]: about abortion certainly the Republicans sometimes will talk about the economy or inflation or the
[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: middle class but there are again as you watch some of these campaigns and I've been
[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: watching the US Senate campaign right now in the state of Texas full of generalities
[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_01]: but no specifics so that I think should be a concern for voters if I get your campaign
[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_01]: literature or I go to your website and I don't see anything other than well we just need
[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_01]: a new way forward we need to support and strengthen the middle class we need to look
[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_01]: the aspirations of the American people by the way those are all quotes from
[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Kamala Harris people are ready for a new way forward we have a new way forward by hope and
[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_01]: by optimism these all come from our interview the other day there's not any specifics and I
[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_01]: think it's time for voters to demand it if not you're going to have future elections
[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_01]: where people aren't going to tell you anything specific and they're just going to talk about
[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_01]: generalities and hope that you'll vote for the person and ignore all the policies they want to
[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_01]: implement let's take a break we'll be back with more right after this
[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_02]: you're listening to point of view your listener supported source for truth back once again
[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_01]: yesterday I had a chance to hear Eric Metaxas at my church but another individual we've had on
[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_01]: this program here is pastor Jack Hibbs of Calvary Chapel Chino Hills I might encourage
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_01]: you to watch his video because at one point he talks about the fact that we're in the
[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_01]: midst of an election season and he says that both parties drive me nuts okay so he starts with
[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_01]: that but he also suggests that if you're a believer right now he says for the Christian
[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'm quoting him it's super easy if you pull back rhetoric and emotion it's a slam dunk
[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think he is representing the idea that again we're getting a lot of nice feeling words
[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_01]: freedom and hope and optimism and a day forward and a way forward and all the rest but let's look at
[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_01]: the policies that are going to fact your family your freedom and your faith and I think it is
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_01]: really pretty simple but let me for just a minute do a little bit of clarification maybe on
[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_01]: fact checking throughout the weekend there have been many that have been very critical of this
[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I pulled it up on my computer right now from Associated Press JD Vance says he laments that
[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_01]: school shootings are a fact of life and calls for better security first of all the headline
[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_01]: is wrong second of all they pick a less than flattering picture of the vice presidential nominee
[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: do you think they might have a bias here well I've got in front of me what he actually said
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and again he was talking about the fact that if these psychos are going to go after our kids
[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_01]: we've got to be prepared for it we don't have to like the reality we live in but the reality
[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_01]: we live in we've got to deal with it he says I don't like this that this is a fact of life
[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_01]: but if you are a psycho and want to make headlines you realize that our schools are
[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_01]: soft targets and we have got to bolster security in our schools by the way I might
[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_01]: just mention most people are not reporting that if it weren't for a good guy with a gun
[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: that individual there in Georgia would have killed more people but he specifically said
[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_01]: not that school shootings are a fact of life he said I don't like the fact that they're
[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_01]: a fact of life and I think it's just a good example of just pure outright dishonesty in a
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_01]: headline and fortunately sometimes people are willing to investigate a little further maybe
[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_01]: read a little further down and find some evidence of the fact that that's not exactly the way he
[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: said it but nevertheless there's kind of a need for fact checking out there in the campaign
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: but also in the interviews there was an interview that recently Tucker Carlson did with
[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Darrell Cooper you may not be familiar with this but perhaps you have heard some people
[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_01]: argue that this illustrates why Winston Churchill was a bad guy maybe even a psychopath
[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's the real villain not Adolf Hitler okay I have trouble even taking that seriously
[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_01]: at face value there are some very good articles Charlie Cook has got a piece of national
[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_01]: review but for those of you that are Christians that receive the breakpoint commentary
[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_01]: John Stone Street who I've known for many years and Dr. Glenn Sonscheid I've known him
[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I've actually preached in his church in Connecticut actually have written this piece called Churchill
[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_01]: wasn't the bad guy and it is I think a really sad commentary that this individual was given
[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_01]: a platform on a very influential podcast that is the podcast which is done by Tucker Carlson
[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_01]: to in some respects spout some things that oftentimes have been perceived as Nazi propaganda
[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_01]: but nevertheless I want you to go and dig it up for yourself and those of you that have access
[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_01]: to the breakpoint commentary you can certainly see that his commentary today by John Stone
[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Street and Dr. Glenn Sonscheid gives you the facts of the matter and if you don't have
[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_01]: access to that you can just type in breakpoint and maybe the word Churchill or something like
[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_01]: that and you will find I think a very good piece that you need to know about.
[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_01]: One last point though another article I've posted for you was about of course something
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_01]: that will come up tomorrow night the flip-flops but I actually posted this article that points
[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_01]: you back to Axios now Axios is basically I think fair to say a left of center
[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_01]: internet website but they actually identify nine flip-flops of Kamala Harris and I thought it was
[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_01]: good that they did that because that is a very important question you're seeing right now some
[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_01]: questions being asked of JD Vance primarily but sometimes Donald Trump well are you upset that
[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_01]: this individual who's running against you flip-flops? Of course you've heard my answer
[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_01]: before I have no problem with somebody flip-flopping if they flop to the right position
[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_01]: if you've been pro-abortion all these years and then you realize the horror of abortion in your
[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_01]: pro-life I welcome you into the community but when you have sponsored legislation and now you
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_01]: say you no longer believe it I think we need a little bit more than just an anonymous staffer
[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_01]: saying oh she no longer believes that let me just give you the nine and you can read those
[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_01]: yourself because this comes from a quote from of course Axios the original article was in town hall
[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_01]: from Vespa but first of all banning plastic straws for environmental concerns well she
[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_01]: says she no longer is for it Axios reported that on Thursday but of course you probably
[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_01]: have seen at least one video where she said that a mandate for automakers to make only
[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_01]: electric and hydrogen vehicles by 2035 at the moment the Harris campaign won't say whether
[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_01]: she's still for that number three of course another one shows up in the videos banning
[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_01]: fracking because of concerns over global warming and potential water contamination
[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_01]: when she was asked about that the other day she just simply says she changed her mind but
[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_01]: you know wait a minute you were sponsoring legislation on this regard and now to say
[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_01]: flip-flopped I think we need a little bit more than have just changed my mind
[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_01]: a mandatory buyback program for assault weapons as part of her gun safety agenda
[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_01]: she says she's dropped that idea but again this was something you strongly believed in and we have
[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_01]: you on camera saying that another one decriminalizing crossing the border from being
[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_01]: criminal offense to a civil one again accesses well no one longer no one longer supports that
[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_01]: reparations for slavery I talked about that briefly on the broadcast I did last Thursday
[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_01]: when we were at KYCC again the position she has now kind of unclear building a wall at
[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_01]: southwest border defining the Trump promise that many Democrats have fought well now she says
[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_01]: she's for it but I've seen some surveys showing many voters aren't even convinced
[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_01]: that she would actually go through with that two others a federal jobs guarantee that was
[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_01]: part of the green new deal proposal well that's part of a legislation her name is on along
[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_01]: with Bernie Sanders she says he's no longer for it okay explain why you were for it before and
[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_01]: why you're not now and then finally the premise of Medicare for all which she embraced as a
[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_01]: first-year US senator and certainly joined with Bernie Sanders changed a little bit during
[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_01]: the campaign now she's backed off from it I thought if nothing else let's give credit where
[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_01]: it is due whether it's CNN or Axios trying to fact check some of this and the argument that
[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_01]: was made the other day which was by certainly a Jonathan Karl with JD Vance or no I guess
[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_01]: it was Senator Tom Cotton in which Tom Cotton said wait a minute wait a minute you know
[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_01]: just because a anonymous staffer says she no longer believes that you're jumping to some
[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: really significant conclusions and again the way to do that is flip it around if something
[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_01]: that Donald Trump has believed for years like tariffs which I think are a bad idea
[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_01]: and all of a sudden changed his mind well they kind of like to know why you changed your mind
[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_01]: and I wouldn't just assume that because a staffer told us that that we would necessarily
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_01]: accept that at face value so there are a lot of very good questions that could be asked
[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_01]: tomorrow night in the debate we'll see how many of them are asked and again this article
[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_01]: is there so that you have some facts and resources that you can apply as you think through each
[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_01]: particular candidate most importantly I want to thank Megan for help engineering the program
[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Steve thank you for producing the program looking forward to a great interview tomorrow
[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_02]: with Casey Luskens we'll see you right here on point of view who can you trust
[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_02]: years ago many of us could probably have provided a fairly long list but today
[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_02]: well today it seems we almost can't trust anyone educators don't even know what a woman is
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_02]: anymore many so-called public servants have shown all they care about is themselves the FBI
[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_02]: has been accused of bias law breaking betrayal and journalism it's largely corrupt with no
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