Point of View September 4, 2024 – Hour 2 : Getting Politics Out of Medicine, Drafting Our Daughters

Point of View September 4, 2024 – Hour 2 : Getting Politics Out of Medicine, Drafting Our Daughters

Wednesday, September 4, 2024

Then in the second hour, Penna welcomes emergency room physician Dr. Jared Ross. Dr. Ross is with Do No Harm and joins Penna to talk about getting politics out of medicine. Her final guest is Elaine Donnelly. Elaine is Founder and President of the Center for Military Readiness. They will discuss drafting our daughters.

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[00:00:03] Back to Point of View, we've got another hot button issue to discuss and actually good

[00:00:29] development in this situation.

[00:00:31] Last month there were some emails released showing that actually I think it was maybe

[00:00:35] late June that Assistant Secretary for Health Admiral Levine, this is Rachel Levine and

[00:00:44] a lot of you probably know because we've talked about it here on Point of View that

[00:00:48] we have an Assistant Secretary of Health at HHS who is transgender.

[00:00:54] Male turned female or you know presenting himself as female Admiral Rachel Levine and

[00:01:05] her folks met with WPATH, World Professional Association for Transgender Health Leaders and

[00:01:11] pressured them to drop age limits from their standards of care which meant providing hormones

[00:01:21] and transgender surgeries at younger ages than they had previously recommended.

[00:01:26] This was a pressure that was coming from our federal government toward this organization.

[00:01:32] With us to discuss this and what Congress is doing about it is Jared Ross and Jared

[00:01:39] Ross is a physician, he's a board certified emergency physician with over 24 years of experience

[00:01:46] as a paramedic, firefighter and educator and he is speaking for an organization called

[00:01:55] Do No Harm.

[00:01:57] Jared thank you so much for joining me.

[00:02:00] Hannah thanks so much for having me, really appreciate it.

[00:02:03] It's so good to have you.

[00:02:04] I want to go back to when it was exposed that Rachel Levine, Admiral Levine was pressuring

[00:02:13] this organization WPATH to recommend trans-transing kids younger and younger.

[00:02:20] Tell us about it.

[00:02:22] Yeah so this was actually first revealed by the New York Times in June of this year

[00:02:28] and as of last month August we saw an investigation started by the House Oversight Committee,

[00:02:37] specifically the Subcommittee on Healthcare led by Congresswoman Lisa McClain.

[00:02:44] Well that's a good thing.

[00:02:46] Have you seen an update on their progress?

[00:02:51] So Congresswoman McClain submitted a request for documents from Health and Human Services

[00:02:59] where Dr. Rachel Levine is the Assistant Secretary for Health and they have a deadline to receive

[00:03:06] those documents of September 10th so that's next Tuesday.

[00:03:11] We haven't seen anything yet but coming back from a holiday weekend here I'm very hopeful

[00:03:16] that we'll see something later this week or early next week.

[00:03:20] When you think about this organization WPATH I know they're not necessarily as much

[00:03:26] of a medical organization as they are an advocacy group but I'm assuming they have some expertise

[00:03:32] and you have the federal government pushing them to change an opinion that's already kind

[00:03:40] of concerning recommending these surgeries but making it go younger and younger taking

[00:03:46] away an age limit on it.

[00:03:49] It's kind of amazing to think about that our government is doing that isn't it?

[00:03:55] It absolutely is.

[00:03:57] WPATH is a pretty despicable organization and very I think pseudoscientific would be a way

[00:04:05] to describe it.

[00:04:06] I'm not sure that they are opposed to having these age limits removed but they've had

[00:04:12] a lot of negative attention recently.

[00:04:15] They had a large leakage of files back in March of this year, the WPATH files

[00:04:23] and then the CAS review commissioned by the UK's National Health Service and Dr.

[00:04:28] Hillary CAS in April of this year further casts a lot of negative attention on WPATH.

[00:04:34] So I think some of this may have just been to try to stay under the radar but yes

[00:04:40] this is our political officials, taxpayer funded officials who are lobbying

[00:04:48] pseudoscientific organizations to mutilate children.

[00:04:52] I think the other part of this is that kids may be struggling with something,

[00:04:58] maybe even some kind of autism or mental illness and they get prescribed these hormones as a cure

[00:05:06] and then that sucks them in to this sort of I guess a path where they go to

[00:05:17] cross sex hormones or puberty blockers, cross sex hormones and then these surgeries

[00:05:23] and they've gone down this path and it's such a dangerous path.

[00:05:26] I mean we're now seeing the physical, not only the physical damage but psychological damage

[00:05:31] that's done and so I'm hoping that what Congress is doing is going to help us start

[00:05:38] thinking in a more logical manner about this whole path that we're putting kids on.

[00:05:44] What do you think?

[00:05:46] Absolutely, I think you bring up a very good point, Pena.

[00:05:49] We know first of all that these gender confused children have high degrees

[00:05:55] of codiagnosis of autism, anxiety, depression, ADHD so these are troubled children and

[00:06:06] often today in our medical life society we're looking for diagnoses to latch on to

[00:06:11] so whether that's the child or the parent this diagnosis becomes so central in this child's life

[00:06:20] and then this pathway is sold as a panacea for a cure and you're also very correct with that as

[00:06:30] well that we see this as this or this is sold as this harmless pathway of social transition changing

[00:06:38] names and pronouns but we know that it's a very slippery slope and that we start reinforcing

[00:06:43] this behavior and that a social transition leads to puberty blockers and then cross sex hormones

[00:06:50] and then these devastating surgical procedures.

[00:06:54] You mentioned Hillary Cass in Britain and her report which was such a actually helpful in

[00:07:02] over there to close down the Tavistock clinic that was doing these trans surgeries

[00:07:08] and to just slow things down help doctors to look at other mental health issues and not consider

[00:07:18] perhaps transing a child as a cure-all those types of things they're thinking it through

[00:07:22] and we need to too and some people are and as a matter of fact in 23 states there have been

[00:07:29] laws passed outlawing gender modification which is that final step of course in transing a child

[00:07:36] so 23 states that's almost half the states that have done that

[00:07:40] do you see that possibility that there will be other states this year that outlaw it?

[00:07:48] Absolutely we're seeing a lot of progress from the CAS review the United Kingdom,

[00:07:54] Belgium, Sweden and Finland now are no longer providing this so-called gender affirming care

[00:08:02] to minors and we've seen you know several states here in the US follow suit and I really hope that

[00:08:10] we're able to see something on the federal level here in the US and also in Canada.

[00:08:17] What do you think would happen if the House of Oversight Committee which is looking into this

[00:08:24] if they find out could they find out illegalities that could get people in trouble

[00:08:30] that are in the federal government right now? Well I think it's actually very clear there's a

[00:08:37] statement from... I gotta jump in because I asked that question too soon I think the answer is

[00:08:43] yes but we'll discuss it further right after this. This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson.

[00:09:02] Charles Gasparino is a TV network business correspondent and he begins his latest book on

[00:09:07] the radicalization of corporate America by talking about the great Goldman Chick-fil-A debate.

[00:09:13] Turns out that there were a handful of young Goldman Sachs associates who wanted to order

[00:09:17] chicken sandwiches from the local Chick-fil-A restaurant others felt it would be racist and

[00:09:22] bigoted to do so an angry debate broke out. A business colleague of Charles tipped him

[00:09:27] off to the story and he was amazed as he puts it that some of Goldman's best and brightest

[00:09:32] that night were convinced that eating a Chick-fil-A sandwich would signal a significant step in

[00:09:37] America's de-evolution sending the nation back to the darker times of the antebellum south.

[00:09:43] He explains why Chick-fil-A might be controversial to some but still finds the reaction unreasonable.

[00:09:49] Chick-fil-A is a franchise business that is owned by entrepreneurs from all walks of life.

[00:09:54] The person working at the local restaurant could be an Asian or Hispanic immigrant or some

[00:09:58] dude from Ghana not a real or even imagined southern redneck. When his network contacted Goldman for

[00:10:05] a comment they wouldn't rule out that Chick-fil-A debate occurred but someone at Goldman later asked

[00:10:10] why he thought the story was worth reporting. Well his reaction is simple just read his new book

[00:10:16] Go Woke, Go Broke the inside story of the radicalization of corporate America to find out.

[00:10:22] As you might imagine he tells the stories of Target Disney and Bud Light he provides

[00:10:26] detailed discussions of ESG DEI and critical race theory. He also reminds us of the history of the

[00:10:33] so-called summer of love. Wokeness is destroying corporate America and his new book explains why.

[00:10:40] I'm Krivi Anderson and that's my point of view.

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[00:11:03] And on the line is Dr. Jared Ross he is a board certified emergency physician and he's also the

[00:11:09] founder and president of EMSEC LLC which provides healthcare consulting and medical education

[00:11:17] and he's presented at over 90 national and international conferences and frequently

[00:11:24] interviewed in the media which we're doing today and Jared I'm so appreciate you joining me today

[00:11:31] especially on this issue. What do you think that there could be a move if we find that

[00:11:38] there was undue pressure to trans these kids younger and younger that Rachel Levine that

[00:11:47] Admiral Rachel Levine could actually be in a bit of trouble?

[00:11:55] Absolutely I think there's a large body of evidence to show that Admiral Levine was involved

[00:12:02] here. There's communication from Dr. James Cantor who's a psychiatrist at WPATH sending out an email

[00:12:10] to the WPATH internal listserv saying that we sent the draft standards of care number eight

[00:12:17] to Admiral Levine but that she is concerned about having age restrictions for surgeries in the document

[00:12:25] that that could affect access to care and then we saw that when the standards of care version

[00:12:31] eight were released that all four of the age requirements were completely stricken from there.

[00:12:38] Wow what are the age requirements? What were they and what age can you get puberty blockers

[00:12:44] what age can you get cross-sex hormones and what is the minimum age for

[00:12:48] these surgeries that not only castrate but remove breasts and build new organs and all of that?

[00:12:56] Yep so the the draft guidelines had no minimum age requirement for puberty blockers

[00:13:02] 14 for cross-sex hormones 15 for double mastectomies

[00:13:10] 16 for breast augmentation and facial surgeries and then 17 for genital surgeries and hysterectomies.

[00:13:21] This is just unbelievable. All of those ages were removed absolutely unbelievable and there's

[00:13:27] really some irony here that you know Rachel Levine has publicly come out and said you know

[00:13:34] I would have had regret had I transitioned as a child because I'm so grateful to have

[00:13:42] have had my own children. She was in a heterosexual relationship with a woman and has I believe

[00:13:49] two children from that marriage. So she's recommending removing the right for all these kids

[00:13:54] who don't even know what they're asking for to remove the right or the future for them

[00:14:03] to have children. Yes yeah and it's not just it's not just children. Dr. Marcy Bowers who's the

[00:14:14] president of WPATH herself a male to female transgender person was also quoted saying that

[00:14:26] every single child or adolescent who is puberty blocked at what we call tanner stage two it's

[00:14:32] one of the early stages of puberty has never experienced an orgasm and she's a miss came out

[00:14:40] very publicly but again WPATH and now our government continue to support this treatment of children

[00:14:49] it's just despicable. Yeah the whole idea that she's glad she got to have her kids that's kind

[00:14:57] of chilling. So Dr. Ross just why is this happening? Why is our government willing to do this to young

[00:15:06] to young people? Willing and actually I would say they're actually taking risks in doing this

[00:15:14] but nobody's called them on it until now. Yes it's unfortunate it's this corruption

[00:15:21] of ideology and this idea that self-identity is more important than anything else

[00:15:32] and it's really a shame. It has really had detrimental impacts on our society as a whole

[00:15:39] and specifically on medicine we've you know seen medicine move away from the Hippocratic oaths

[00:15:47] from doing no harm to doing a lot of harm to really harming these children with these

[00:15:55] mutilative surgeries and cross sex hormones and it's just awful. It's really it's really

[00:16:05] terrible. So I've read a book called D-Trans by Mary Margaret O'Lehan from Heritage from the

[00:16:12] Daily Signal and she talked about the stories of certain young people that are now detrancing

[00:16:19] and a lot of times they went in with their parents and they were told that if they're they

[00:16:25] didn't they were kind of most of the parents are kind of resistant to allow this kind of a

[00:16:30] progression especially the surgeries but if you don't the doctors or the psychologists would say

[00:16:35] then your child's probably going to kill themselves. We're finding out now that that's

[00:16:39] not true as a matter of fact Dr. Ross it seems like some stats are now showing that they're more

[00:16:46] likely to kill themselves if you allow this transitioning gender affirming care to take place.

[00:16:55] Exactly exactly and we've seen that lie propagated to parents it's just it's so

[00:17:02] manipulative. One of the well-known detransitioners and also a member with us at you know harm

[00:17:12] Chloe Cole talked about you know her parents being told would you you know would you rather have

[00:17:18] a dead daughter or a living son and we do know from the evidence that these kids actually

[00:17:25] have worsening mental health and higher rates of suicide with this transition that the best treatment

[00:17:34] for them is good supportive psychotherapy and addressing underlying mental health comorbidities

[00:17:44] but these you know hormones and hormone blockers and surgical procedures are absolutely not the

[00:17:52] answer and are making things much worse and we're seeing these these kids

[00:17:58] some detransition and and deal with the the effects that they've suffered from the hormones

[00:18:05] from the surgeries possible infertility inability to to breastfeed their children

[00:18:12] when they are able to have children it's just devastating. Yeah afterwards when when

[00:18:20] young people start to detransition these were some shocks that I got from that book

[00:18:26] or that well number one you can't get your breasts back you mean you might be able to try to get

[00:18:30] them back but once they've been removed there are a lot of scars and scar tissue and Chloe

[00:18:35] Cole even mentioned that she still had oozing from her surgical site years later and then

[00:18:43] the young men who've had radical surgery and then they detrans they still have these problems

[00:18:49] and pain in elimination in the normal bodily functions for the rest of their lives and so

[00:18:57] and I don't know that a lot of people understand that when you start someone on this path with these

[00:19:02] drugs they're not temporary they're something that they have to take for the rest of their lives

[00:19:07] and it sometimes involves giving yourself a shot every single day so this is you know to

[00:19:13] start children on this path where they're not really old enough to know the repercussions of

[00:19:18] it. It's almost criminal and I hope that that's I hope that that's what Congress says once they start

[00:19:26] dealing with this issue and when start coming out with recommendations.

[00:19:31] Yes it really is criminal and it creates lifelong patients out of these kids who may have a

[00:19:39] temporary or a longer lasting mental health issue but it makes them into physical patients

[00:19:44] and unfortunately that brings in a lot of money to these to these healthcare systems

[00:19:50] and so they they pursue this but it's absolutely atrocious. What are your hopes for this

[00:19:58] congressional investigation? What do you hope happens?

[00:20:02] Yeah I really hope that that Rachel Levine is removed from her position as assistant secretary

[00:20:09] for health. You know she is meddling in in ideology here that's not the job of our

[00:20:17] elected and appointed political officials not not looking out for the best interests of

[00:20:24] our citizens but pushing an ideology here and I think she needs to be removed from her position.

[00:20:31] Thank you so much Jared Ross for joining me today. I appreciate what you're doing

[00:20:35] and thank you for sharing that with us. Thanks so much Benna if I can just direct your listeners

[00:20:43] if they're looking for more information do you know harmmedicine.org is our organization

[00:20:50] and we have a bunch of information up there including some recent recent publications

[00:20:56] tracking this both in the U.S. and abroad. Great thank you so much and we've also linked

[00:21:02] to that at pointofview.net. Ladies and gentlemen this is an important issue and we want to bring it

[00:21:08] to your attention I hope this phenomenon of transing kids goes away someday. I don't know if it will

[00:21:15] but I sure hope it does. Next up we're going to talk about the military are they actually doing

[00:21:20] better on the DEI issue and why are they still trying to draft our daughters or at

[00:21:26] least make that possible? We'll talk with Elaine Donnelly right after this. It almost seems like

[00:21:31] we live in a different world from many people in positions of authority. They say men can be women

[00:21:37] and women men. People are prosecuted differently or not at all depending on their politics.

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[00:23:01] the opinions expressed on point of view do not necessarily reflect the views of the management

[00:23:06] or staff of this station and now here again is Pena Dexter. Welcome back to point of view I am

[00:23:15] Pena Dexter and if this has already been done this week let me just again do it and offer

[00:23:20] condolences to the family and friends of the hostages that were murdered in a tunnel

[00:23:28] in under Rafa in Gaza and it's just tragic and so we do want to remember them

[00:23:37] and we're going to move on to some of these military issues of course the U.S. military

[00:23:44] is sort of a tried and true institution in our culture and it's also used as an institution

[00:23:51] of social experimentation we've seen many social experiments that have taken place in the military

[00:23:59] some more successful than others and one person who has always been on the front lines of

[00:24:06] making some common sense on this is Elaine Donnelly she is the president of the Center

[00:24:11] for Military Readiness which is an independent nonpartisan public policy organization that reports

[00:24:18] on and lies as military social issues and I don't know if I've ever given this history of Elaine

[00:24:24] she's been my guest many times over the years but Defense Secretary Casper Weinberger appointed

[00:24:30] Elaine Donnelly to DACAWITS the Defense Advisory Committee on Women in the Services

[00:24:37] back in the 80s that in 1992 President George H. W. Bush appointed her to the Presidential

[00:24:44] Commission on the Assignment of Women in the Arms Forces Elaine thank you so much for joining me today

[00:24:50] well you've got a long history of making sense on these issues I remember back in the 90s talking

[00:25:01] about don't ask don't tell and gaze in the military and then we've talked about the whole

[00:25:07] transgender push into the military you know in a sense I mean we've lost those battles

[00:25:14] we've saved them off many of the things that were predicted that we predicted back in 2010

[00:25:21] which the Pentagon flatly denied whatever happened did indeed happen and one of them

[00:25:27] that they denied was the issue of transgenders in the military and the issue has not gone away

[00:25:32] in fact in the civilian world it's red hot because you have biological men invading the

[00:25:38] private spaces of women in locker rooms and things like that and women's athletics I suspect

[00:25:45] the same thing is going on in the military the only difference is we're not hearing about it

[00:25:50] because rules actually forbid public discussion of problems with the transgender policy

[00:25:57] wow so yeah that's the thing and I have no idea exactly what is going on I found FOIA's

[00:26:04] FOIA's pretty much go nowhere because well the Pentagon doesn't want to reveal these problems

[00:26:10] they have thoroughly endorse the idea that if you change your appearance you can actually

[00:26:16] change your sex and there's just no biological reality to support that so when I hear people talk

[00:26:24] about gender affirming surgery that's oxymoronic people should not use language like that because

[00:26:32] biology determines sex before birth as you know and changing physical appearance even changing

[00:26:40] body parts removing body parts that are healthy that doesn't change your sex may change your

[00:26:45] appearance or your subjective belief in what you are whether man or woman but it doesn't change

[00:26:53] biological sex so that's why we're having a lot of problems with the transgender issue it is not

[00:26:59] going away frankly I think it's only just begun well there will be a lot more to be said in

[00:27:04] coming months let me on that note open the phones 800 351 1212 in case there's someone out there

[00:27:12] that has served in the military may be able to tell us something that we don't know and can't get

[00:27:17] even through the FOIA request right it is difficult I have filed some and I've heard rumors I don't go

[00:27:24] on rumors I have to know yeah exactly what is happening I always file FOIA's to try to get

[00:27:30] verification but it's pretty hard to come by because only with the approval of the very

[00:27:36] highest level of the Pentagon can there be any discussion of these issues that was written into

[00:27:42] the Department of Defense instructions and we wrote about it two years ago so it's all playing out

[00:27:49] there is a little ray of hope here though the defense bill for 2025 which is going to be

[00:27:57] finished between now in the end of the year and it's perilous because this is a lame duck

[00:28:03] session year and if the administration should change on election day there will be a flurry

[00:28:11] of activity to try to get things done that otherwise would not be done so that's why I'm

[00:28:16] watching very closely what is going on with the defense bill a couple of good things are in both

[00:28:22] bills if they're approved in conference committee it was a motion no more Department of Defense

[00:28:28] DEI positions that is diversity equity inclusion provisions that was approved in both the house

[00:28:35] and senate no sex change surgeries also approved in both the house and the senate that's interesting

[00:28:42] as that is good and medical procedures for children same thing so uh try care coverage

[00:28:49] no medical procedures for children that could result in sterilization so that passed in the

[00:28:56] senate 13 to 12 and the senate committee that's all to the good so we have some good things in this

[00:29:02] bill however there are some negative things starting with draft art daughters here it comes again

[00:29:09] comes up every again and again yeah it's been fought back many times we also know that the

[00:29:16] attempt to affirm meritocracy and to end racial discrimination there were a couple of

[00:29:22] amendments that were offered and they were defeated and in some cases with the help of

[00:29:28] republicans and it's very difficult to figure out why because you would think that senators

[00:29:35] would certainly vote to affirm and end to discrimination certainly at the military service academies

[00:29:43] but senator deb fischer for instance in north dakota she voted no on that the measure failed

[00:29:49] and there was another amendment in that was a good amendment by senator roger wicker but senators

[00:29:56] rounds and joni erntz voted no senator joni urs office gave me an explanation for that

[00:30:05] i'm not saying that i buy it but i did print what her explanation was but to me that the primary

[00:30:12] factor should include still be meritocracy meritocracy needs to be upheld because here's

[00:30:19] the problem the panagon defines meritocracy different than you and i would they say that race

[00:30:26] should be considered part of merit and your skin color should make you more merit meritorious

[00:30:32] than someone else now that is silly as it sounds that argument was made in legal terms before

[00:30:39] the united states supreme court in the case of the harvard and university of north carolina case

[00:30:47] came down a couple years ago and it said that racial discrimination in higher education was wrong

[00:30:53] and that included the rotc programs on the campuses of harvard and university of north

[00:30:59] carolina uh... the service academies were not included in that ruling they weren't even part

[00:31:05] of the case but they were cited by the government they will we want to continue discriminating

[00:31:11] and the supreme court just ignored that put it right aside and included in their ruling rotc

[00:31:19] but there needs to be more litigation in fact it's already been filed uh... to extend that

[00:31:25] ruling to the service academies but you don't need litigation congress should have acted

[00:31:30] and they had the chance to act in this last session the writing of the defense bill

[00:31:35] why is the defense bill take why does it take so long to pass it seems like

[00:31:40] i think they get it done every year by hoker by crook even if it's got really bad stuff in it

[00:31:46] quite often in negotiations at the end of the year they take out some of the really bad stuff

[00:31:51] we've got rid of draught our daughters a couple years in a row that way

[00:31:56] hopefully this one also will be removed but here's a problem

[00:31:59] to the new twist the new twist started on the house side and i saw it coming i just knew

[00:32:05] something was up on the house side they passed what looked like an innocuous amendment

[00:32:11] it said that young men would be automatically registered with selective service in other

[00:32:18] words they wouldn't have to go to the post office and sign up okay most young men do that

[00:32:22] they do fulfill their duty but many do not so all of us make it automatic that's more efficient

[00:32:29] save money blah blah blah it passed on the house side and i said look out they're gonna add women

[00:32:34] on the senate side sure enough that's exactly what happened and it happened behind closed doors

[00:32:40] so now the amendment which did pass unfortunately says that women of draft age 18 to 25 or 26

[00:32:50] that they will be automatically registered and wow with selective service now there was a little

[00:32:56] let me jump in elaine because we've got we're coming up on a break i want to unpack this a

[00:33:01] little bit more um so they still want to draft your daughters at least uh our legislators that

[00:33:08] are passing bills regarding the military think that's a good idea and uh i'm going to ask elaine

[00:33:15] why that's not a good idea there are a lot of reasons this keeps coming back

[00:33:20] every time we pass this defense bill it it raises its ugly head uh and uh we need to stop it from

[00:33:27] even doing that and certainly even this year uh to stop it so stick with us for more of

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[00:34:03] ladies and gentlemen this is final segment of today's show and tomorrow uh kirby will be hosting

[00:34:08] a remote broadcast from our station in california socked in california k y cc uh he's out there

[00:34:16] all week that's why you've had several uh guest hosts and uh on friday i'll be hosting our

[00:34:24] weekend edition with kelly shackleford and jeff mature and so you can imagine that will be a lot of

[00:34:30] fun but elaine donnelly is my guest she's center for um military readiness president we're talking

[00:34:37] about this effort to require women to be registered for the draft and even to automatically register

[00:34:44] both men and women for the draft and i noticed elaine one excuse you wrote about in your

[00:34:50] article on the federalists which we posted um why a combat carve out for women is not credible so a

[00:34:58] combat carve out what is that and it sounds like it would protect women but would it

[00:35:04] no uh this attempt to pass draft our daughter's legislation this year has a new twist it says

[00:35:12] well we're going to include women in selective service registration but they will not have to be

[00:35:19] they will not be used in combat positions as defined prior to december 2015 now this is ridiculous

[00:35:29] because the army doesn't even well they don't even know how to define what a woman is they don't

[00:35:35] define what combat is so this ploy that well don't worry we're going to uh register for

[00:35:41] selective service and maybe call up women but they won't be used in combat units well

[00:35:45] this defeats the whole purpose of selective service in fact it changes it it turns it into

[00:35:51] something other than what it's supposed to be an insurance policy to replace soldiers that

[00:35:57] have fallen in battle uh the infantry is the largest branch of military that uh selective service

[00:36:05] affects okay provide soldiers to replace those fallen in battle if you say women are not going

[00:36:11] to be used in combat what are they going to be used for i mean the whole thing aren't they just

[00:36:16] going to come up with a system where you have a call up for war aren't all those women that

[00:36:21] can't be used in combat are going to just make it harder to get the men out there aren't well

[00:36:26] that's the thing because you're doing it for reasons of equity not the needs of the military

[00:36:31] if you call up 50 50 men of percentages 50 percent men 50 percent women maybe one out

[00:36:38] four maybe is qualified among women that is physically qualified for the units they would

[00:36:45] be assigned to but what do you do with all the rest of them well you gum up the system

[00:36:50] that's what happens you bring in people who are not going to be qualified who will not be

[00:36:54] found qualified you slow down the system you make mobilization even harder the whole

[00:37:00] the whole idea is just simply ridiculous it is contrary to sound policy in the military

[00:37:06] now you may make a pretty good case maybe we had to abolish the whole system all together

[00:37:10] and maybe you could make a good case for that and we we know that women have always volunteered

[00:37:16] serve in times of national emergency whether it's combat or an emergency at home women always

[00:37:22] step up so there's no need or someone saying well they are to do the same as the men

[00:37:26] for reasons of resentment that resentment is misplaced because women can and do

[00:37:32] serve their country in time of war it's always been that way but what would happen here what

[00:37:38] I'm concerned about is if you if you get people used to the idea of young people being registered

[00:37:44] with the government for service of the government's choice once they reach a certain age what you've

[00:37:51] done is taken a giant step toward mandatory national service now the supreme court has

[00:37:58] appellable like the service for the military because the constitution says congress provides

[00:38:03] for defense of the country okay they raise armies and navies and so on but the supreme

[00:38:08] court has never upheld the need to have a peace corps or some other organization that does work

[00:38:15] in the community volunteers and that kind of thing the government doesn't have that power

[00:38:20] nor should they be given that power for reasons that are less than compelling

[00:38:26] so we don't want to raise a generation of young people who automatically have to serve the government

[00:38:31] at the direction of the government only for purposes the government approves okay so I'm

[00:38:38] all for volunteerism church work people who work with pro-life organizations for instance

[00:38:43] those kinds of organizations probably wouldn't even qualify for this system this national

[00:38:49] service system what it is sort of smacking of what comes to mind is the chinese system of social

[00:38:57] credits you have to show the government a certain number of social credits in order to be able to

[00:39:03] travel freely or do what you want otherwise the government says no you can't do that that's

[00:39:08] the chinese system that's why so many people you know were allowed to travel outside of

[00:39:15] Wuhan during the covid crisis but not within the country of the of china well it was all

[00:39:22] ordered by the government and when I researched how do they enforce it well it's called national

[00:39:27] service in a way it's social credits you know the military has always been used

[00:39:34] as social experimentation we've talked about so many instances of that over the years but

[00:39:39] now as you look under the hood lane and you see that you know there could be a much more progressive

[00:39:45] agenda deep underneath what they do in the military that's almost always the case anyway with the

[00:39:52] things they try to use the military to advance isn't it well that's right and in the military

[00:39:57] it's even more intense and more problematic because everyone must follow orders that's why

[00:40:03] institution is so vulnerable to social change ordered by civilians who really don't care about

[00:40:10] the military don't understand military culture who think that skin color is more important than

[00:40:15] meritocracy even though it's a life and death situation in the military the military is not

[00:40:21] a conservative institution certainly not anymore if it ever was because of the administration

[00:40:28] in the white house right now when you compare the platforms of the two parties and the republican

[00:40:33] platform unfortunately is somewhat skinnier than it has been in previous years however it does have

[00:40:39] some good solid planks in it and what the democrats want to continue doing of course is

[00:40:45] use the military to advance de i anti extremist programs um crt critical race theory instructions

[00:40:56] even though all of that is very divisive corrosive to morale and unit cohesion

[00:41:03] to pit people against each other based on the skin color that they have

[00:41:07] i mean there's something really perverse there really is but it's deeply entrenched and when we

[00:41:12] released it actually c mr and many others put the spotlight on critical race theory

[00:41:19] starting early in this administration so what do they do they fired the woman in charge

[00:41:24] calissa wing reassigned her and embedded all of her philosophy all through the schools in the

[00:41:32] department of defense department of defense education activity do d e a so all of that is

[00:41:40] happening right now congress as i mentioned at the outset has a couple of amendments that would

[00:41:46] help in stemming the tide but personally i think we're going to need a new president

[00:41:50] we're going to need appointees and the pentagon who understand the problem

[00:41:54] and are willing to do something about it because it's very firmly entrenched it that doesn't mean

[00:42:00] it's irreversible i mean look at all the private companies that are abandoning their de i

[00:42:06] offices and expenditures and so on uh that's all well and good the military should be doing

[00:42:11] the same thing instead they're marching in the opposite direction well elaine i'm glad you're

[00:42:17] voiced out there of reason speaking into the culture and especially the military culture

[00:42:24] so grateful to you and thank you for being with me today you really are a national treasure i'm not

[00:42:30] i'm not exaggerating when i say that thank you for the information we've given us today and we

[00:42:36] will certainly check out our website your listeners can see articles there about the current defense

[00:42:40] bill what they can do people need to know that you know civilians do run the military yeah

[00:42:46] and it isn't just the people in the pentagon it's us because we elect the members of congress

[00:42:51] and congress sets policy for the military and we need to talk to our members of congress too

[00:42:56] elaine thank you so much for being with me today i appreciate it ladies and gentlemen thanks

[00:43:02] for listening it's been a packed show uh we barely ended on time i'll talk to you on friday and

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