Friday, September 27, 2024

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[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_05]: The Truth Team Week, September 27, 2024, Hour 1
[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_05]: about if you compare the stands and the policies of Kamala Harris to the
[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Democratic Socialists of America, there's almost an overlap here. Also we'll be
[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_05]: talking with him and also a little bit later, Penta Dexter, who will be joining
[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_05]: us by phone about parents protesting a male player on girls team and a variety
[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_05]: of other things related to the election but as we've always tried to do during
[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_05]: our Truth Team Week and as we've been doing all week, we bring Colin Lambert
[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_03]: into the studio one more time. It's good to see you again Kirby and excited about
[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_03]: this final day. I'm calling this a miracle Friday because we need a miracle today
[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_03]: to hit our goal, our goal for the week. I'm going to throw out a few numbers for
[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_03]: you. Our goal for the week $150,000. We started today needing $80,000.
[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_03]: We're down to $77,375 to go and we have some exciting news right off
[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_03]: the bat because late yesterday, too late to get on the air yesterday, we got a
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_03]: matching challenge of $10,000 to encourage others to give. A couple of our
[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Truth Team members who want to encourage others to give just like they have. So
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: $10,000 dollar-for-dollar match. That means your gift is doubled starting
[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_03]: right now as you call or as you click in. So let me give you that number
[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_03]: 800-347-5151. 800-347-5151. It counts if you click in online as well.
[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Pointofview.net. So it's a $10,000 dollar-for-dollar match. Every gift right
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_03]: now being doubled. Now one more thing I want to add to the mix for the day is
[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_03]: yesterday, Kirby you might remember, we asked for 10 people to give a gift of
[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_03]: $1,000 or more. Right as we went off the air we hit that 10 total of people
[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_03]: wanting to give and we actually got a couple more after that. So today since
[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_03]: it's a big day, 20 gifts of $1,000 or more is what we're looking for. We'll
[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_03]: count that down. That can be $100 a month or it can be a one-time gift of
[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: $1,000 or more. But looking for 20 people to step forward. Again I said just
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_03]: a moment ago Kirby we're praying for a miracle today. What is a miracle? A
[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_03]: miracle is an event that can't be explained by science or by anything
[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_03]: earthly. It is a divine intervention and that's what we're praying for today that
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_03]: the Lord will help us hit that goal of now $77,375.
[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll count it down during the program today and we would love for you to be a
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_03]: part of Truth Team. 800-347-5151. And again remember every gift up to $10,000
[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_03]: starting right now is doubled dollar for dollar. I might just bring Pena Dexter in
[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_05]: for just a minute. She was with us yesterday in studio and of course we
[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_05]: have a number of people around the roundtable here that are gonna be
[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_05]: talking about that. But Pena yesterday when you were asking people to give to
[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Point of View we had a very significant day so I wanted to say thank you for
[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_01]: that. Well I'm glad to hear that. That's great. You know today though is Friday
[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and Friday is an important day on Point of View and it's also the Friday of
[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Truth Team week and that is exciting and important. So thanks for letting me
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: join you at least by phone and I do want to encourage people to pay attention to
[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_01]: what we talk about and also to take action if you haven't done so. We
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: really really appreciate those gifts and your participation because these are
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: times that are very important and our country depends on it. It really
[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: does. It depends on you and the future of our country depends on what we who love
[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_05]: the country what we do. Again that number 800-347-5151. Kelly Shackelford in
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_05]: the studio and he's going to in just a minute talk about why we need things
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_05]: like Point of View and First Liberty Institute and the rest. But you've been
[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_05]: around here long enough to know that as we come to year end we certainly have a
[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_05]: need but right now there has been a slow if you will almost a slowing of giving
[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_05]: to various ministries. You faced it as well and we have a down economy. We have
[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_05]: the uncertainty of the future of America and we even have a presidential campaign
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_05]: and all sorts of other campaigns where people that might have given to First
[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Liberty, Point of View, whatever aren't. And so you're well aware of the fact
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_06]: that this is a very crucial need. Yeah it's it's very you know I've seen it
[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_06]: many many years most presidential elections and I don't know whether it's
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_06]: because people are giving money to campaigns or I really think it's just
[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_06]: more distraction. Yes. I think people are focused on the election and they sort of
[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_06]: turn their eyes away from the reason they care about the election. You know
[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_06]: things like sharing the gospel and things like freedom and and so I just
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_06]: think it's a matter of focusing back and realizing that hey these are things that
[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_06]: are really important to me and and I need to make sure I'm supporting these
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_06]: efforts and Point of View is unlike any other. I mean there's just not a radio
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_06]: show on all over the country and it's been this way since I was very young and
[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I listened in law school on the radio to Point of View. There just was never
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_06]: anything that looked at all these current day events and really but through a
[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_06]: worldview, a Christian worldview and focus that talked about those things. I
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_06]: remember even going back, Kirby you probably remember this, when they had
[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_06]: debates and it was like there was a Republican primary and I think Fox was
[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_06]: holding the debate. This is many years ago and the debate had that all this
[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_06]: discussion and not a single social issue, not a single cultural issue and
[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_06]: and so you didn't hear that anywhere else on TV. You go to any network whether
[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_06]: the conservative or liberal they didn't talk about any of that and Point of View
[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_06]: is the only place that you heard about well what do these candidates think
[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_06]: about these issues and so Point of View is just very unique always has been and
[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_06]: especially now when you can't trust most things you hear that's never been an
[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_06]: issue with Point of View and so it's a source that people can always come to
[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_06]: and get that truthful and a Christian worldview in addition to that.
[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_05]: 1-800-347-5151. Colin we have a match on the table and we have a couple
[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_05]: things first of all it's the last day if you've been waiting to the last day
[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_05]: it is the last day and for some if you've been waiting for a match we have
[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_05]: that $10,000 match on the table. A $10,000 dollar for dollar match your
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_03]: gift is doubled if you give a hundred dollars it's doubled if you give a
[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_03]: hundred dollars a month it will be doubled any gift any size right now
[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_03]: doubled so it's a wonderful time maybe you've never given before you'd be a
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: first-time giver we've seen a lot of those in the last couple of days we have
[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_03]: a welcome pack for you with a letter from Kirby and five of those Biblical
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[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_03]: to double your gift so it's a great time to give for the very first time as well
[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_03]: 800-347-5151 800-347-5151 you can also check in online pointofview.net
[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_03]: and again every gift right now up to $10,000 is doubled and again as I look
[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_05]: over across the way through the glass we have some people that are waiting for
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_05]: the phones to ring and so if you've been waiting to the last day and waiting for
[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_05]: a match well that is there as well gonna take a break and when we come back you
[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_05]: don't want to miss this Kelly Shackelford has been warning us matter
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_05]: of fact member yesterday our conversation with Pena that Kelly says I
[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_05]: give it a 25% chance that this country might not even be the same after the
[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_05]: November elections and you'll see why when we talk about the first two
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_05]: articles we posted on the website so if you would like to join with us and I
[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_05]: hope you would like now certainly this is the time to call 800-347-5151
[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_05]: course the website pointofview.net we'll be right back this is viewpoints
[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_05]: with Kirby Anderson school shootings have been in the news for two reasons
[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_05]: earlier this month we were able to see the full text of the shooter at Covenant
[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_05]: School the next day the news was about a shooter at a high school in Georgia the
[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Covenant School shooters diary is a reminder of the sad and disturbing
[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_05]: thoughts running through those who want to take out their anger on other
[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_05]: students this trans identifying 28 year old who killed six people had been in
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_05]: psychological counseling for many years she manifested all kinds of self-hatred
[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_05]: and eating disorders let me quote from one expert in the article the rise in
[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_05]: school shootings reflect both mental health and spiritual crisis dr. Jennifer
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Bowden's observes we're both having a mental health and spiritual crisis and
[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_05]: there's not just one factor that contributes to this problem after looking
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_05]: at the diary she concluded that this young woman was very oppressed and had
[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_05]: lots of spiritual ideas she also added you also do see a sort of typical
[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_05]: profile of someone who is identifying as transgender when they're all these other
[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_05]: host of mental health issues she believes that young people who are
[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_05]: dealing with emotional issues and feel alienated from society are attracted to
[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_05]: some of these radical ideologies this becomes an excuse since all my problems
[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_05]: are this issue that doesn't mean that everyone who identifies as transgender
[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_05]: is going to carry out something horrific like the school shooting in previous
[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_05]: commentaries I've documented the mental health crisis affecting the younger
[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_05]: generations social psychological and spiritual issues are in play and must be
[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_05]: addressed this is a challenge for the schools in the church to make a
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_05]: difference in the lives of these troubled young people I'm Kirby Anderson
[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_08]: and that's my point of view for a free booklet on a biblical view on big data
[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_08]: go to viewpoints dot info slash data that's viewpoints dot info slash data
[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_08]: point of view finding clarity in the chaos one of the year aiming at is
[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_04]: helping to equip generations of Christians all across this country and
[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_04]: around the world on the truth of the Bible in every conceivable way of life I
[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_04]: mean you as the head of this ministry and those of us who are listening
[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_04]: supporting this you how do we join you and point of view in finishing well in
[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_04]: giving the point of view and crossing that finish line so my appeal to your
[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_04]: listeners out there is also to finish well and support this ministry and give
[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_04]: well I think of the impact you've had here and why wouldn't you do that why
[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_04]: wouldn't you do that with point of view and you have been an incredible resource
[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_04]: for me and I want to continue to support you point of view and what
[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_04]: you're doing and I would ask every listener out there would you support
[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_04]: point of view and help them to finish well in their goal for this this week
[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_04]: this season of their year they need to finish well finding clarity in the chaos
[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_05]: point of view dr. Hal Hall Becker first met him when he was with the Christian
[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Medical and Dental Society and the pastor of Dallas Bible Church as well
[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_05]: as now the head of finishing well ministries think that's first time we've
[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_05]: ever had an endorsement from him but Colin again we want to remind people
[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_05]: that we have $10,000 match I'm seeing some people still looking at the phone
[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd rather they were on the phone so we need to hear from some listeners right
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_03]: now absolutely that $10,000 match coming from a couple of our faithful truth team
[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_03]: members already 800-347-5151 800-347-5151 every gift right now up to
[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_03]: $10,000 is being doubled so it is the best time to call or click through you
[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_03]: can go to point of view net and get through as well
[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Don from Arizona just gave a $50 gift that becomes 100 Michael and George's
[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_03]: you just gave a $250 gift that becomes 500 and so we've got 300 in so far
[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_03]: $9,700 of that $10,000 dollar-for-dollar match in also looking for 20 gifts today
[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_03]: of a thousand dollars or more that could also be $100 a month so we'd love to
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_03]: hear from you right now 800-347-5151 please give that phone call
[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_05]: dr. Merrill Matthews I certainly want to go to Kelly Shackelford but I remember
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_05]: last week we talked about the fact that not only do we have evidence of court
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_05]: packing in places like Venezuela your article in the Hill pointed out that on
[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_05]: the one hand President Biden is criticizing what's going on in Mexico
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_05]: but he's doing the very same thing here and now a week later we're finding out
[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_05]: how incredibly draconian some of these ideas are when I wrote that piece for
[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_00]: the Hill last week at the president of Mexico who is outgoing now they've got a
[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: new incoming a woman who is further left and he wants to reform their parallel
[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_00]: and he wants to expand their Supreme Court he wants to reduce the terms they
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: already have term limits but he wants to reduce that time that they're serving on
[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_00]: there so there was a lot of similarities a couple things that were different is
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_00]: and he wants to have a popular election for most of the judges there in Mexico
[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_00]: but he also was focusing on the lower courts it wasn't just their Supreme
[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Court and I thought well you know we're not really so far they really haven't
[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_00]: talked about the lower court so much well well Senator Wyden has changed all
[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: that he wants to change the lower courts the appeals courts and other things
[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_00]: because that's in many cases the feeder court for the Supreme Court so it was
[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: interesting in one week later my concerns about how they weren't
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_00]: necessarily parallel between what Biden doing what Biden's doing an amlo as they
[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_00]: call him in Mexico yeah yeah it turns out they're much more similar than I even
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_05]: thought I would think so the first two articles first of all first Liberty
[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_05]: launches an ad blitz and that you can go to first Liberty or you can find it on
[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_05]: our website the second one we go go actually to Senator Ron Wyden's website
[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_05]: so you get it from the individual Kelly this will cause everybody to have a
[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_06]: headache but tell us what's going on well this is just yet another thing
[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_06]: filed by the Democrats in the Senate in particular to dismantle our Supreme
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Court to just restructure the Supreme Court and we've been talking about this
[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_06]: now for three years that this is what's coming but it's coming in I mean waves
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_06]: every day right now and so this bill would add six justices to the Supreme
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Court which you know would you know all of a sudden we'd have 15 justices it
[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_06]: would also I think one of the bigger provisions it would say well and also
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_06]: the Supreme Court can't overturn any act of Congress unless a supermajority of
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_06]: the Supreme Court says it's unconstitutional now there's a lot of
[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_06]: problems with that one but one of the biggest ones with is it's
[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_06]: unconstitutional okay you can't put in a bill that you're gonna have new
[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_06]: requirements for what's unconstitutional for the court and so highlighting that
[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to only jump back and highlight the part that shocks most people and I
[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_06]: mean I don't know probably even most point of view listeners because while
[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_06]: we've talked about this a lot they don't you don't always tune in here's the
[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_06]: shocking thing to court pack to add 5 10 15 justices in one day you know one month
[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_06]: however quickly you want to all it takes all it takes is a majority vote
[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_06]: okay it's not in the Constitution now we haven't had a change in the number of
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_06]: justices since Thomas Edison came up with a light bulb
[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_06]: ok so this is kind of been our and you know this has been the way it's been
[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_06]: but if they want to change that and they this is exactly what is in this bill
[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_06]: it's what in other bills it's it's what they've been talking about if one party
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_06]: gets the presidency the house and the Senate they can come in and say okay we
[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_06]: don't really like the court and the decisions they're giving right now so
[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_06]: we'll add five six ten maybe fifteen justices and we'll pick them all this is
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_06]: what they can do and so literally you know four months from now five months
[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_06]: from now this is what we could have in the country the problem with that is
[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_06]: when you do this all history shows all around the world the day you do this
[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_06]: you're done the courts that you don't you know we have three branches of
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_06]: government you don't at that point you have to you have an executive and you
[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_06]: have a legislative because the court collapses under the political power and
[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_06]: they can just do you whatever right you think you have you don't because they
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_06]: can just add justices until they take it away and this is where Venezuela was lost
[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Argentina was lost there's just lots of history around the world and this can
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_06]: very well happen because we just haven't had people crazy enough to try to push
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_06]: this and they're pushing this now and they're not just pushing it they're
[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_06]: pushing it with everything they've got evidence by a new and yet another bill
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_06]: to totally dismantle and and to pack the Supreme Court with now six new justices
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_05]: is what they're proposing let me again encourage you to give us a call that
[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_05]: number is 800-347-5151 and I might just mention call and that's another reason
[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_05]: to support this ministry you're hearing it first right here not only the problem
[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_05]: but the fact that first Liberty is launched this nationwide ad bullets to
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_05]: really educate people about what we're talking about today yeah I was just
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_03]: gonna say you're not gonna hear this anywhere else point of view is where
[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_03]: you're gonna hear it and you can hear it from trustworthy voices like Kelly
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Shackelford and and hosted by Kirby Anderson here's the number 800-347-5151
[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_03]: we're in the middle of a $10,000 dollar for dollar match so far I see
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_03]: $1,171 has come in so 8829 of that 10,000 remaining looking for 20 gifts
[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_03]: of $1,000 or more and gifts of every size because today we have a big goal
[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_03]: $80,000 is the goal for the day we've already got in over $5,000 so about
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_03]: $74,000 remaining and we're just gonna count it down through the program today
[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_03]: but you're the one that's going to make the difference by praying asking God
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_03]: what he'd have you do and then step into the phone and calling 800-347-5151
[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_03]: or going online to pointofview.net one of the things we try to do is give you
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_05]: as much information as possible of course you know how to go to first
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Liberty already I suspect many of you already get the first Liberty live
[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_05]: insider so that's a great way to learn about that but we've also in this case
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_05]: not only giving you the information about this ad blitz and I have started
[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_05]: noticing when I've gone to even places like Politico seen little first Liberty
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_05]: ads and things like that that you then have the second one called Supreme Court
[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_05]: reforms and that just takes you to the actual website of Senator Ron Wyden and
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_05]: again this is the argument that supposedly as we talked about yesterday
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_05]: with Pentadexter we don't have a legitimate court now just remember back
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_05]: as I said a couple of years ago when you had a five to four decision essentially
[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_05]: legalizing same-sex marriage and we're told we can't change that because the
[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_05]: court is legitimate now we have all sorts of cases coming down that they
[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_05]: don't like including the most recent case of Kelly Shackleford have that was
[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_05]: unanimous others are six to three seven to two all the rest but that court is
[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_05]: not legitimate I think you can know how the game is being played so if you'd
[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_05]: like to do the research if you would like to know more about that and if you
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[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_05]: article which I think you will really learn a lot about Kelly just as I went
[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_05]: to the break I talked about how you can get some of this information on social
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[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_05]: the storm one on the swamp very well done by the way but dr. merrill matthews
[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I want to change topics because we're in the midst of an election and I knew you
[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_05]: were working on this because you have taken the time to actually read through
[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_05]: the Democratic Socialist of America website live to tell about it and notice
[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_05]: a striking similarity between the ten policy positions for Kamala Harris and
[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_05]: the policy positions of the Democratic Socialist of America is an amazing well
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_00]: President Trump and former President Trump has been going around calling her
[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_00]: comrade Kamala and saying she's a Marxist and that her father was a Marxist
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris was at the Economic Club of New York I think it was yesterday or
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: day before yesterday and she addressed this saying I am NOT a Marxist I'm a
[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: capitalist but what I did was I there's a group out there called the Democratic
[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Socialist of America Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has been a member of that I
[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_00]: think Bernie Sanders has been a member of that so I just thought I'd go and see
[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_00]: what are their positions and see how similar that might be to comrade
[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala and I don't know that it's helpful call her comrade Kamala but it's
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_00]: interesting that virtually everything she wants is mirrored in the Democratic
[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Socialist for America let me say that again if you look at the platform of the
[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Democratic Socialist Socialist of America their platform is essentially
[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_00]: identical to Kamala Harris and the Democrats in general and if you just
[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: walk down that they have ten points on there they highlight first one is a
[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_00]: strengthening democracy when the deepening strengthening democracy they
[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_00]: say in there they would like to end minority rule that is a euphemism for
[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: getting rid of the filibuster where we heard anything like that before yes and
[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_00]: they also want to pack the court they mentioned in their term limits term
[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_00]: limits absolutely they want to abolish the what they call the carceral state
[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_00]: carceral is a term for incarceration or jail time and what they essentially say
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: is they want they have determined their defund the police
[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_00]: yes where have we heard that before so they've they've got a number of things
[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_00]: one of them is they they want gender and sexuality justice and so they want the
[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_00]: government paying for gender affirming care and guarantee I'm quoting here
[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_00]: quote guarantee a frequent of queer friendly and gender affirming health care
[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_00]: they also support the Green New Deal they want health justice where they want
[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: a government-run health care system they actually mentioned Bernie Sanders
[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Medicare for All Kamala Harris was a pro co-sponsor of Bernie Sanders Medicare
[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_00]: for All until it got a little bit too politically difficult to continue with
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: that so she's tried to back away from that it says in the Democrat and the
[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Democratic Socialist of America housing for all does Kamala Harris want to do
[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_00]: anything about housing why yes she wants to build government housing and
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: give first-time homebuyers a $25,000 tax credit so it just goes on and on down
[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_00]: the list where you look at the things that the Democratic Socialists of
[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_00]: America want and even though they are they provide more details and Kamala
[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris does but who doesn't provide more details and Kamala Harris does but
[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_00]: they're virtually identical so the real question is I don't know that she is a
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Marxist but she's certainly a socialist and at least the Democratic Socialists
[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_00]: of America are willing to stand up and say that's who there are
[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Kamala Harris isn't let me come to a Colin but just for a minute again I
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[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_05]: it also with the piece by Dr. Merrill Matthews on the remarkable similarity of
[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_05]: that with the Democratic Socialists of America so the next time somebody raises
[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_05]: the question well no you're calling a socialist but they are actually referring
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[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_05]: you'll notice a remarkable similarity won't you
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: yes yesterday you mentioned that I love lists and I think Merrill Matthews
[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_01]: article that's posted at pointofview.net is a wonderful list it's very
[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_01]: comprehensive although I would add one policy that they're threatening to take
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_01]: control of and that is our industry industrial policy there's a lot of talk
[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_01]: about that so you know this whole socialist policy she backs away from she
[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: doesn't talk much about it and now when you put all these planks together you
[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_01]: can see why because it would scare anyone away
[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_05]: well we're going to take a break and we'll come back and maybe next hour Dr.
[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Matthews and I will talk about the dockworkers strike because there's an
[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_05]: impact there but when we come back I do want to talk about this piece that Dr.
[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Matthews saw about parents wearing XX wristbands to protest male player on the
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[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a growing concern in the US and many other countries that people are not
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_02]: having enough babies the fertility rate in the US is now approximately 1.62
[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_02]: births per female this is well below replacement level fertility which is 2.1
[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_02]: births per female why should we care about this New York Times columnist Russ
[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Douthit worries a lot about the declining birth rate in his book the
[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_02]: decadent society he laments that amid all of our society's material plenty one
[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_02]: resource is conspicuously scarce that resource is babies he writes frequently
[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_02]: about the grim consequences of an aging childless future the concern is
[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_02]: frequently highlighted in other major news sources including Bloomberg CNN
[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_02]: business the Wall Street Journal BBC and The Economist with headlines like global
[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_02]: fertility has collapsed with profound economic consequences propelled by
[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_02]: falling birth rates the US population is rapidly aging as the number of productive
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[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_02]: workers to support the older generations this accelerates the economic pressures
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_02]: on childbearing aged couples there are several reasons for the declining birth
[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_02]: rate couples are marrying past the peak age for human biological fertility which
[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_02]: is 22 to 24 and increasingly people are not marrying at all one in four 40 year
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[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_02]: errs having kids is one of many lifestyle choices John Stone Street host
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[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: many young women motherhood often lands on the losing side of that evaluation
[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Elon Musk has touted the work of Kevin Dolan organizer of the NATO conference
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[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_02]: too often the answer is no for point of view I'm Penna Dexter
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[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_05]: phone call let me come to a piece I want to get some comments first of all from
[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_05]: dr. Merrill Matthews and then Pentadexter but this is one that you probably would
[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_05]: not have seen because you'd have to go to the college fix calm website but dr.
[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Matthews you brought it to my attention although I know Kelly's familiar with
[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_05]: this because that was one they almost wanted to actually defend as well but it
[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_05]: has to do with a high school in which parents very upset that a male player
[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_05]: was on the girls team so they wore these wristbands that say XX you know XX makes
[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_05]: you a female XY makes you a male and as a result the superintendent said the
[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_05]: bands were threatening harassing intimidating I thought we had a First
[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Amendment can you speak to that we do and I understand that some videos have
[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_00]: emerged from this and the parents who were wearing the double X wristbands
[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_00]: weren't engaged in any kind of action or anything they were just silently
[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_00]: wearing a wristband to the to the game it was a soccer game and they were trying
[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_00]: to they were opposed to having a male on the opponent on the opposing side and so
[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_00]: there and one of the ladies that was interviewed in this said I don't really
[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_00]: have an opposition against transgender athletes I just don't want their playing
[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_00]: against girls and you can girls are smaller and they can be harmed by this
[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: physically if they're playing against males so it was a I would call it a very
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_00]: peaceful silent protest and yet the superintendent took on took them on for
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_05]: it well then are your thoughts because of course I'll hold up our booklet that
[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_05]: we have on transgenderism which we've talked about before but this is one of
[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_05]: those issues that I think is really part of the presidential campaign as well as
[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_05]: many of these senatorial campaigns as well isn't it yes it is and you know this
[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_01]: this particular instance was parents are worried about their own daughters
[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_01]: safety because of the presence of a boy thinks he's a girl on the opposing team
[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_01]: so we have the possibility of real physical harm and then you contrast that
[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_01]: with parents who are not saying a word just wearing an armband and just being
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_01]: present there and that's too much that's too much opposition for the dangerous
[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_01]: policy and I do think this is an issue that many state houses have already
[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_01]: addressed but they the House and Senate must address the issue of men and girls
[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_01]: or just have to be addressed it's a very important and key issue for the
[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_01]: country it's a product of this whole agenda of transgender affirmation but
[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_05]: we've got to get some common sense here Kelly love to get your thoughts because
[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_05]: the superintendent says and I'm giving you a direct quote that these armbands
[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_05]: violated school policy against threatening harassing or intimidating
[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_05]: any person that she went on to say that no person shall impede delay disrupt
[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_05]: or otherwise interfere with any school activity I don't see what the concern is
[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_05]: and it seems to me if this becomes a court case I got a feeling who's gonna
[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_06]: win yeah this is a pretty basic violation of the First Amendment there's actually
[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_06]: the old tinker case it goes way back and the students were wearing an armband to
[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_06]: protest the Vietnam War and again it was silent but they had an armband and the
[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_06]: school the government in this case gave the same kind of argument you know well
[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_06]: it could disrupt or it could upset or it could and the Supreme Court is like that
[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_06]: and work here you know and so this is this is going to be a winner for the
[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_06]: parents and a dead loser for the school district so it'll be interesting whether
[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_06]: they want to fight this or they want to apologize and correct this but you can't
[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_06]: call the police to exclude citizens from an event because you know they have an
[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_06]: armband on that you disagree with that's that's pretty clearly a violation
[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_05]: the First Amendment articles we posted on the website that you can read it for
[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_05]: yourself and again that number 800-347-5151 and Colin might be good to
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_05]: mention the fact that there's a case known as tinker vs. Des Moines Kelly is
[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_05]: actually written about that given a presentation in front of the Supreme
[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Court on that and has a book on it so if you want somebody that knows something
[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_05]: about it you're sitting right next to him right here on the studio and that's
[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I think again an understanding of why these very important cases we need to
[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_05]: talk about because a lot of people don't know what their rights are but
[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_05]: they're going to find out very quickly there in New Hampshire if indeed this
[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_03]: goes any further it also speaks to the quality of the guests and topics that
[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_03]: you have here on point of view everyday Kirby and if you want to see that
[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_03]: continue in the days and weeks and months ahead you can help us out 800
[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_03]: 347-5151 there is a $10,000 dollar for dollar match on the table right now
[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_03]: every gift is doubled we want to see at least 19 more gifts of a thousand
[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_03]: dollars or more by the way those would be considered in the match they would be
[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_03]: doubled as part of that matching challenge but you could give a five
[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_03]: dollar gift it would be ten dollars or maybe ten dollars a month becomes twenty
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[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Susan in California just gave thirty dollars a month that becomes sixty
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[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_03]: mention Kirby also many of our gifts have been coming in from from South
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[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_03]: from Hurricane Helene and some of those folks maybe who were planning to give
[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_03]: even today may not be able to give because we don't even know if the
[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_03]: communications are down what's happening in that area maybe you could
[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_03]: give a gift on their behalf that they're not able to be a part today
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[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_05]: hour but this is a good time for you to call I know the unfortunate reality is
[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_05]: when you have Pennadexter, Merrill Matthews and Kelly Shackelford nobody
[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_05]: wants to call because they don't want to miss what they have to say so this is
[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_05]: a perfect time for you to give us a call let's finish off that match because I
[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_05]: think we might even have another one that's coming down the pike so again
[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_05]: give us that call right now it's 800-347-5151 and I know that you will
[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_05]: appreciate talking to my wife of Colin's wife all sorts of staff members or of
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