Point of View September 25, 2024 – Hour 1 : The Event
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Point of View September 25, 2024 – Hour 1 : The Event

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Episode 19

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_02]: folding in which a terrorist group has launched thousands of missiles into the Jewish state

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_02]: over the last year and that came as a result of a narrow terror action from another group.

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Then we're told that Israel is dangerously escalating this situation.

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And I love the way he puts that.

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Since the Hamas atrocities on October 7th, Hezbollah has fired roughly 8,000 rockets

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_02]: at Israel.

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_02]: These indiscriminate attacks have forced tens of thousands of Israelis to flee the north

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_02]: of the country.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_02]: In July, a missile killed 12 children and teenagers are playing soccer in the Golan Heights.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And of course goes on to say that if there's a theme it is that Israel is supposed to

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_02]: endure what no other country would be expected to endure.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Or that it's supposed to really count as background noise, all of these unprovoked attacks on sovereign

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_02]: territory.

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_02]: He says, what other country is asked to bear the rocketing of its civilian population is

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_02]: the price of regional comedy?

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_02]: He says Israel is certainly always accused of that.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Israel hits terrorist targets from the air.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_02]: It's accused of war crimes.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Israel goes on the ground.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It's accused of war crimes.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Israel does neither, opting instead to target terrorists by using its own devices against

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_02]: them.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's accused of war crimes.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: The assumption is that Israel is to duck and cover and take whatever punishment its

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_02]: remorseless enemies dole out, lest things escalate.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think we'll get into more of the details there.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: But one of the articles I did post for you comes from our friend Dennis Prager's

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: been in studio with us also by phone.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: He calls it Israel Derangement Syndrome.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a play on words because you've heard Trump derangement syndrome.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: But he talks about the fact that one of the individuals he does a podcast with suggested

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_02]: that.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And he said, if you want to have a good example, just look at The New York Times,

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_02]: which actually posted a piece by Michael Walzer.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: He is a professor at the Advanced Study at Princeton.

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Israel's pager bombs have no place in a just war.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And he says that Israel is being attacked for killing Hezbollah terrorists is proof

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_02]: that according to the vast array of Israel haters, the political, media and academic

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_02]: left, the Muslims in the Western world, Israel is not allowed to defend itself.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It should now be obvious that the current hatred of Israel is not a result of Israel's

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_02]: bombing of Gaza when Israel targets Hezbollah terrorists and only Hezbollah

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_02]: terrorists.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It is equally condemned.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, we wanted you to have a couple of these articles because they were going

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_02]: to be talking with their good friend Gary Frazier.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But this is our third day of Truth Team Week.

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[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_07]: This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_02]: In his latest book, The Eclipse of God, Erwin Lutzer exposes our nation's

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_02]: disastrous efforts to redefine God in its own image.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Because of this, confusion about God has crept into the church.

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_02]: He was on my radio program recently to warn us of the danger.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_02]: He began by explaining the title, Just as the Moon Obscures the Sun's Light

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_02]: during an eclipse, today's radical secularism has obscured the light of God.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_02]: He wrote this book with three objectives.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_02]: First, to better understand the intellectual roots of this present

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_02]: darkness. Second, to rejoice that God is sovereign and stands ready

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[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And third, to remind us that only a repentant and submissive church

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_02]: can shine the light of the gospel with confidence and strength.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Friedig Nietzsche proclaimed God is dead, but who killed God?

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Erwin Lutzer identifies three gravediggers who prepared a coffin for God,

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Karl Marx, Charles Darwin and Sigmund Freud.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And once God was gone, we became our own God, which is discussed in the

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_02]: chapter, Nero My God to Me, Worshiping at the Shrine of Self-Made Deities.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_02]: The second part of his book establishes what we need to do in returning

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_02]: to the God of our fathers.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_02]: This includes returning to the God of truth, not truthiness.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_02]: We must also be returning to the God of moral absolutes, not our personal

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_02]: preferences. It involves returning to God as lawgiver, not a vacillating ruler.

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_02]: His book is a timely and practical manual intended to deepen our

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[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It will empower you to live and speak as a light for Him in a culture

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_02]: of darkness. I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view.

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[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Finding clarity in the chaos.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Point of view.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Joe Rosenberg, again, a good friend of this ministry.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be talking about Israel.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And of course, we've already talked about a couple of these

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: articles, Israel's righteous war against Hezbollah.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And of course, the peace by Dennis Prager, Israel derangement

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: syndrome, which is pretty funny.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Colin Lambert with me and Colin, we're going to be now talking

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_02]: to someone.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, you've been at Moody when I would have to say

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_02]: that the two individuals I know that have been to Israel

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: so many times.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know who has the record is Charlie Dyer.

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're at Moody and Dr.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Gary Frazier.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not sure who's first and second, but both of them have

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: just spent enormous amounts of time in Israel.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So we welcome back to the microphone Dr.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Gary Frazier, who is the president discovery missions

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and an individual that has been to Israel so many times

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_02]: and writes about Bible prophecy.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_02]: We have information about discovery missions.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_02]: We have information about his latest fiction book,

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: The Event and an individual that has a doctorate of

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_02]: humanities from Liberty University, Dr.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Divinity from International Seminary and Gary Frazier.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Always great to have you on the program.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, great Kirby.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Good to be with you again as always.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I just was listening to my buddy Joel Rosenberg there

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_04]: talking about some things going on.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_04]: So that was pretty encouraging.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and you two know each other pretty well as well.

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And what are your initial thoughts about what is

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_02]: happening now with Hezbollah?

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Because we have covered and talked a little bit about it

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_02]: yesterday, but I wanted to get your thoughts about

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_02]: what it might have had to require of Israel's

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Mossad working with the IDF, first of all,

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_02]: to blow up an individual in Iran who is a leader of

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Hamas and then to actually get various forms of

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: explosives in all those pages and blow up some of

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: those leaders in Hezbollah.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: That I think illustrates the incredible

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_02]: sophistication of the Israeli defense force and

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_02]: even the intelligence service.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Your thoughts?

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, no doubt about that.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And of course, you know, that's the Israeli

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Trojan horse.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, they they they never overlook an

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_04]: opportunity to, you know, to take out terrorists

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_04]: who have killed their own people.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, one of the things you have to

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_04]: love and appreciate appreciate about the nation

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_04]: of Israel and the Jewish people in particular

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_04]: is that while they may suffer, they're going

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: to turn around and make a wrong right because

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_04]: they're going to go after the person who did

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_04]: the killing until they until they get them.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_04]: But you know, I just filmed a new update on

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_04]: the Middle East in Israel, in particular, a few

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_04]: days ago talking about the fact that, you know,

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_04]: this and this, I think our our listeners need to

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_04]: be aware of.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_04]: First of all, October 7th was was Hamas and

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_04]: it was all about going in cleaning out Gaza.

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course, we're all, you know, we were all

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_04]: saddened under the George W.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Bush presidency when Ariel Shiran with

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_04]: pressure from Bush and the American

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_04]: administration went in and moved out the

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_04]: inhabitants of the Gaza Strip, the Jewish

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_04]: inhabitants.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, having been there in the 70s, I'll

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_04]: never forget how beautiful that area was.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Fantastic hotels, restaurants and more than

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_04]: 70 percent of Israel's agriculture came

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_04]: from the Gaza Strip.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And so when you look at the Mediterranean

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_04]: coastal plain, you've got those five

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_04]: former Palestine cities of Ashkelon,

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Ashdod, Ekron, Gaza and Gat.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, we all said that is all

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_04]: students of scripture, we're all saying the

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_04]: same thing to the prime minister.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't do this because you're only going to

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_04]: allow a launching pad for terrorism against

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_04]: television.

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, of course, that became a reality as

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_04]: we are all aware.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_04]: But one of the things that happened

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_04]: October 7th was yes, the war was going

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_04]: to be against Hamas and we're going to

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_04]: clean out that area.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And America stood with them momentarily.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_04]: However, that has all changed.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_04]: The dynamics of this whole conflict,

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_04]: first of all, has changed.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And now a second front then was opened

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_04]: up by his vala, of course, in Lebanon.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And then now we have a third front

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_04]: that is opened up in the sense that now

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Motluda boss and the Palestinian

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Liberation Organization who control the

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_04]: quote unquote biblical Judea and

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Samaria, but also, you know, the

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_04]: political terms of the West Bank are

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_04]: occupied territories.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So now Israel is actually fighting

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_04]: on three fronts.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Right now, this is a very dangerous

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_04]: situation because there are

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_04]: there's just simply X numbers

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_04]: of fighters or soldiers.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_04]: There's X sources of revenue

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_04]: to purchase weapons, etc.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And to acquire these weapons

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_04]: to have the weapons itself.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_04]: So this is a very serious situation

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_04]: that we're looking at right now.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And now we're a protracted war

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_04]: that's been going on pushing a year

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_04]: now. This is absolutely staggering.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And so it's a it's a perilous time

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_04]: right now.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, again, like you said, on three

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_02]: fronts and again, the funding for

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that comes from Iran.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And yesterday we talked with Ken

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Timmerman about how when Iran didn't

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_02]: have any money, they couldn't send it

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_02]: to the Houthis, couldn't send it to

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Hamas, couldn't send it to Hezbollah,

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_02]: couldn't send it to the Palestinian

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Authority.

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And that I think also reminds us

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: that we need to pay attention to

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_02]: that during this election.

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_02]: But ultimately, the real problem

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_02]: is Iran, isn't it?

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And you talk about that, of course,

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_02]: in your new book.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I do because one of the things that

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_04]: we know is that the current

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_04]: administration in America

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_04]: has been complicit with funding

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Iran, which is the number one

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_04]: sponsor of terrorism in the world.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_04]: We know that.

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And yet we keep giving them money.

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_04]: We keep making it possible for

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_04]: them to sell oil.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_04]: We, you know, this administration

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_04]: has no clue to what is really

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_04]: driving this whole situation.

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_04]: You've heard me say this before,

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_04]: and I think you probably said it

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_04]: as well.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_04]: There is no political solution to

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_04]: a religious problem.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And this is a religious problem

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_04]: that we're dealing with.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And Washington just can't get

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_04]: they can't grasp this.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_04]: They do not know.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_04]: They don't understand it.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And so we have this ongoing

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_04]: conflict with this terrorism

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_04]: nation.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, the problem

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_04]: that is, you know, we have to

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_04]: understand that there is a left

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_04]: group, left leaning group of

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_04]: people in Israel, just like

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_04]: there's an America, albeit we

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_04]: also have left wing media

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_04]: in Israel.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And they're showing all of the

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_04]: demonstrations about, you

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_04]: know, releasing the hostages

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_04]: list.

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Look, everybody wants the

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_04]: hostages released, but at what

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_04]: cost?

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And we all know that if in

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_04]: fact, Benjamin Netanyahu, which

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_04]: he will not acquiesce to a

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_04]: declared ceasefire, because he

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_04]: knows that all that will

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_04]: happen if he does that is that

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_04]: all these forces will be

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_04]: rearming.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_04]: They'll be continuing to funnel

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_04]: weapons in through Iran, through

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Syria and Lebanon, Egypt into the

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Gaza Strip region and so forth.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And so there's no way they're

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_04]: going to do that.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And so what happens is they're

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_04]: showing this liberal group in

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Israel as though they want to

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_04]: oust the prime minister.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Let me tell you something on the

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_04]: ground in Israel.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Benjamin Netanyahu has more than

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_04]: 80 some odd percentage of the

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Israeli people who are standing

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_04]: with him because they know one

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_04]: thing about him.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And that is his primary goal is

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_04]: to protect the Israeli people

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_04]: in the nation of Israel.

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's take a break just before

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_02]: we do so, though.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Again, we have in studio with

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_02]: us Colin Lambert and it's again

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_02]: day three of truth team week

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[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_02]: we go to a break, a few

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[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see when get five or

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[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I know many of you would not

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[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_02]: hearing from Gary Frazier.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to come back and

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_02]: continue our conversation

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_02]: with him in terms of what

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_02]: can happen and what he

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_02]: might predict for the future.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And of course, there's some

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_02]: prophetic implications and

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_02]: he is certainly an individual

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_02]: that has certainly been a

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_02]: contributing, for example,

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_02]: to the Tim Lehey prophecy

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_02]: study Bible, the popular

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_02]: encyclopedia on Bible

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_02]: prophecy.

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And of course, his latest

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_02]: book called The Event,

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_02]: which is a fiction book,

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[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And Dr. Gary Frazier,

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_02]: let's have a can broaden it a little bit.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: We're of course talking about the Middle East,

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_02]: but earlier this week,

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_02]: President Biden spoke to the United Nations

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and of course I've got a piece

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_02]: where I might talk about tomorrow.

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Biden tilts at Hezbollah windmills,

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_02]: but the editors at the Wall Street Journal

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_02]: said Biden leaves his successor

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_02]: a world of disorder.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: The theme this week is biblical clarity

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_02]: in cultural chaos.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_02]: We have a world in chaos

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and the examples they use

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_02]: are the chaotic withdrawal

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_02]: of American troops from Afghanistan.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, they talk about the Middle East

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_02]: and being caught flat-footed by Hamas

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and the attacks of Hezbollah.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: But we also need to add to that as well

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_02]: what is happening in the Asian Pacific region,

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: whether or not China will want to take Taiwan.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course we have this ongoing war

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_02]: between Russia and Ukraine.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And then this rather unbiblical,

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_02]: anti-Western axis where Iran

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_02]: supplies missiles and drones to Moscow,

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_02]: which is supplying nuclear know-how to Tehran.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_02]: China's aiding Moscow

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and now joining Beijing

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and naval maneuvers North Korea arming Moscow

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_02]: while being protected by China

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_02]: from the United Nations sanctions.

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a world in chaos

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_02]: and of course that's the theme

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_02]: of your latest book, The Event, isn't it?

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Well it really is, Tarbian.

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_04]: The bottom line is we've never lived

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_04]: in a moment such as this

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_04]: where prophetic themes of scripture

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_04]: are all converging at the same time.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But before I get into that,

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_04]: let me just say this to our listeners today.

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know of anyone, frankly,

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_04]: in the media industry

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_04]: that's smarter than Kirby Anderson.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm telling you I've done hundreds of radio interviews

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_04]: and no one comes to the table more prepared

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_04]: than Kirby Anderson does

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_04]: to provide an informative interview

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_04]: that really deals with the issues of a certain book.

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm reminded the other night

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_04]: in the debate when Kamala Harris was asked

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_04]: is she better off,

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_04]: or are we better off now four years,

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_04]: now that we were four years ago

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_04]: and she never answered the question.

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_04]: One of the things I love about Kirby

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_04]: is he answers the questions

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_04]: and if you're not a supporter or a point of view,

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_04]: you ought to be.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Second thing I want to ask is Colin Lambert.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you related to Lance Lambert?

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, all right.

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I just wanted to check because Lance Lambert

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_04]: of course wrote the book The Battle for Israel

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_04]: many years ago.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I met him in Israel,

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_04]: what a tremendous man of God he was.

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Having said that,

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Kirby back to what we were talking about before,

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_04]: all the pieces of the puzzle are in place

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_04]: and here's what people don't understand.

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_04]: God does have a prophetic plan for the future.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_04]: We can know a great deal about that

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_04]: if we are careful to study the Word of God

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_04]: to show ourselves approved in the God

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_04]: and work when need is not be shamed,

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_04]: rightly dividing the Word of truth.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I was just handed a book again four days ago

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_04]: by a guy who used to be believed

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_04]: that there was going to be a pre-tribulational rapture

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_04]: and now he believes that the church is going to go

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_04]: through the tribulation and so forth and so on.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_04]: There's so much confusion out there

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_04]: but here's why the confusion exists.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_04]: First of all, Satan wants to do everything he can

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_04]: to steal away the sense of urgency

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_04]: in the lives of believers

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_04]: so that they will take this attitude

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_04]: that nobody really knows what's going to happen

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_04]: so I'm just going to take a case along

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_04]: type of approach that what will be will be.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's foolishness on the part of anyone

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_04]: who knows the Lord Jesus Christ

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_04]: because Jesus in Matthew 24 said that he tells us this

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_04]: because we are his friends, we're his family

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_04]: and so he wants us to know what is going to happen.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Now what's interesting is right now

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_04]: when you take all that you've already laid out

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_04]: for us a moment ago

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_04]: and you add to that a number of other things

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_04]: such as now we have a what is known as an annular eclipse

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_04]: and you may have already addressed this

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_04]: taking place on sundown at sundown at 622 p.m.

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_04]: on October 2nd, here's what's interesting.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_04]: There is going to be this ring of fire eclipse

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_04]: but at the same time this is the beginning

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_04]: the start of the feast of the trumpets in Israel

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_04]: for Russia Shana.

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Now as you well know Kirby

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_04]: for many, many, many years

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_04]: especially since Israel came back to the land in 1948

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_04]: believers have thought that

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_04]: because there are prophetic implications

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_04]: and so prophetic fulfillment

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_04]: to the seven Jewish feast days

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_04]: of course especially the four in the spring

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_04]: and of course these will screw the final and pass over

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_04]: and first through and so forth and so on

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_04]: but the three in the fall of Russia Shana

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_04]: and of course then obviously we have the feast

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_04]: the pteranacals are so caught and so forth

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_04]: but anyway having said all that here's the point

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_04]: since people have been looking at this

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_04]: they're saying wow could it be

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_04]: that the rapture of the church could occur October 2nd

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_04]: in light of the fact that all these other events

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_04]: take place.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_04]: So here's what I want to address real quick.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to go back to 1844 when a Baptist preacher

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_04]: by the name of William Miller

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_04]: had figured out that the rapture was

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_04]: or the coming of Christ was going to occur

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_04]: on a certain date so his followers all dawned there

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_04]: white gowns and went out and filmed the hillside

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_04]: and he didn't come.

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_04]: He did not come and it was called the great disappointment.

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Further to that we know that Edgar Wison

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_04]: wrote the book 88 Reasons Why Jesus Was Coming in 1988.

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Edgar was a Bible student

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_04]: of course he also was a NASA engineer

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_04]: but he had figured out that 1948

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_04]: and Jesus sent him at you 2432

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_04]: the generation will not pass away

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_04]: who sees the rebirth of the nation of Israel

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_04]: the fig tree that is.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_04]: So he figured out 1988

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_04]: of course obviously Jesus didn't come

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_04]: but I remember all the hype around that in 1988.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_04]: So what I want to say to our listeners today

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_04]: is simply this, I don't know if the rapture

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_04]: is going to occur on a feast of trumpets

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_04]: or especially even this particular one on October 2nd

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_04]: but what I can tell you is this

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_04]: there's going to be a trumpet sound

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_04]: the dead in Christ are going to be raised

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_04]: we who are alive remain

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_04]: are going to be called to be the Lord in the air

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_04]: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_04]: So whether it's October 2nd

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_04]: whether it's six months or now a year from now

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_04]: however long it may be

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_04]: the issue for each of us should be number one

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_04]: we are not going to allow the enemy

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_04]: to steal away the sense of urgency in our lives

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_04]: because the world is lost

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_04]: and dying and going to hell.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And we're the people who have the truth

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_04]: that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_04]: and no man comes to the Father but by him.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_04]: So our job is as Jesus said in Matthew 24 verse 42

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_04]: we're to be watching for his coming

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_04]: in verse 44 we're to be ready for his coming

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_04]: and in verse 46 he talks about the faithful servant

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_04]: we need to be serving until he does come

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_04]: and part of the way that we can do that

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_04]: is to be a partner with point of view

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_04]: because y'all are doing incredible things

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_04]: you're reaching tons and tons of people

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_04]: and it's a ministry that by the way is streamlined

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_04]: there is no wasting of funds that are given

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I've been personally with point of view now

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_04]: for many years and been in there also many times

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_04]: these are people who are faithful

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_04]: to use God's resources in the most meaningful way.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So anyway having said all that yes

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Iran is poised, China is on board

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_04]: the whole world is doing just what we know

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_04]: they knew they would do

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_04]: they're all turning against Israel in these last days

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_04]: so the stage is set.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Let me just mention that we do have a link

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_02]: to Gary Frazier and of course we have Discovery Missions

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_02]: of course his book The Event

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_02]: if you'd like to have him come and speak

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and that is the case but as we go to a break

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_02]: now we certainly I think have motivated people to give.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, time's running out in this hour

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_05]: we would love to hear from you.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_05]: 800-347-5151 you can go to pointofview.net

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_05]: click on the big banner

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_05]: and whatever size gift you can give be a part

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_05]: it's incredible to just hear even sitting here

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_05]: in the studio with Kirby this week

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_05]: the guests that he has on the topics

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_05]: that he covers, the materials that he provides

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_05]: for you every day online

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_05]: and this incredible staff around Kirby

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_05]: that is working so hard each and every day

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_05]: to make sure you have trustworthy reliable

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_05]: biblically based information

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_05]: you can help us continue this

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_05]: join the truth team today

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_05]: 800-347-5151

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll take a break and again wanna thank Gary Frazier

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_02]: for joining us when we come back

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_02]: we'll spend a little bit of more time

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_02]: updating you on some of those issues

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_02]: again you will find many of the articles

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_02]: we've been quoting from today

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_02]: if you'd like to contact Gary Frazier

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_02]: that is the case

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_02]: but now's the time to make that phone call

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and the number is again 800-347-5151

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_02]: let's see when we get all the phones ringing

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_02]: 800-347-5151

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_07]: we've got View finding clarity in the chaos

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Well I really believe that Point of View

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_06]: does a tremendous service to the Christian church

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_06]: because Kirby is able to take complex issues

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_06]: break them down so that we can all understand them

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_06]: and then in addition to that of course

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_06]: provide the biblical framework

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_06]: and a response that we should have as believers

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that when the history of the Christian church

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_06]: in America is really written

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_06]: it's going to have to include

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_06]: the power of Christian radio

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_06]: and I don't know of any program

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_06]: that is as contemporary, is up to date

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_06]: and is handled as well as Kirby

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_06]: on Point of View

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that those of us who benefit from Christian radio

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_06]: should be the very ones who support it

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_06]: so I would encourage all those who are listening right now

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_06]: to make sure that they are in touch with Point of View

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_06]: and be sure to leave your gift

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_06]: because together we can make a great difference

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_07]: finding clarity in the chaos

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Point of View

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Dr. Euron Lutseran, we were talking of course with him

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_02]: just recently about his book The Eclipse of God

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_02]: we were just talking about Eclipse

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_02]: you know just as the moon obscures the sun's light

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and darkens us so we have secularism

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_02]: obscuring the light of God

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and thus that's the kind of the premise there

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_02]: and really focuses on a lot of great material

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_02]: and so that is actually my commentary today

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_02]: we hadn't planned that but the commentary

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_02]: which I wrote last week and recorded

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and then actually comes out today

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_02]: that's one of the many benefits

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_02]: if you sign up just receive the daily Viewpoints commentary

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_02]: but you've known Dr. Lutser for a long time haven't you?

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Dr. Euron Lutser, a wonderful guy

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_05]: he was a pastor of course for many many many many years

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_05]: at the Moody Church in Chicago

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_05]: which is not connected officially now

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_05]: with Moody Bible Institute where I worked

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_05]: but is just about a half mile down the street

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I have interviewed him many times

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I've spent time with him at campaigns like this

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_05]: and one of the things about Dr. Lutser I can say is

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_05]: he was always one like you Kirby

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_05]: to be very aware of what was going on in the culture

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_05]: and to say and talk about what the Bible had to say

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_05]: about that issue in the culture

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_05]: he didn't avoid those things from the pulpit

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_05]: he preached on the issues that his church family were facing

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_05]: and I love the fact that each and every day

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_05]: you look at the point of view family

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_05]: and say what does this family need to know about today

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I think he also said something key there

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_05]: that I want to repeat

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_05]: which is if you benefit from the ministry of point of view

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_05]: on a regular basis this is a ministry you need to be giving to

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_05]: you know you have options we always encourage you to give to your church first

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_05]: but beyond that we want to encourage you to be part of the point of view family

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_05]: you can join the truth team this week

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_05]: 800-347-5151

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_05]: the need is great this week

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_05]: $150,000 is where we need to be by Friday

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_05]: it's going to take gifts of every size

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_05]: everybody doing something

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_05]: and the more people who will give a gift of any size

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_05]: the closer we'll be to that amount

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I want to do a couple of quick thank yous

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_05]: if I might Mary in South Carolina

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_05]: just called and gave a gift of $20 a month

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Mary thank you so much

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Linda in Alabama with a one-time $100 gift

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Jean in South Carolina $30 a month

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_05]: James in Georgia $250 one-time gift

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_05]: once again you may have received an email today from Kirby

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_05]: open it up it's probably got that link on there

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_05]: you can go straight to it

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_05]: or again just call 800-347-5151

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_02]: let me just also encourage some of you to give monthly gifts if you can

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and again you don't have to have all the money in the hands right now

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_02]: but that certainly would be something that would be a great benefit

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and as both Colin and I have said that's the way we oftentimes give

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_02]: you couldn't give as he said $600 right now

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_02]: but you could give $50 a month

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_02]: you might not be able to give $1,200 right now

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_02]: but you could give $100 a month

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_02]: and I hope some of you will consider that as well

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_02]: because those are all counted towards the final total

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and also are helpful to us

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_02]: because we have bills coming in monthly

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_02]: so if we have income coming in monthly works out very well

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I've got a verse I'd like to share with you

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_05]: from 2nd Corinthians 9-7

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_05]: it says this

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_05]: each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_05]: not reluctantly or under compulsion for God loves a cheerful giver

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_05]: we're not trying to compel you today

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_05]: we're trying to communicate to you the needs that we have

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_05]: we're listener supported radio

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_05]: that's how point of view continues to do what it does

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_05]: so as you benefit from point of view

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_05]: as you agree with and and find resources from point of view

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_05]: we want to encourage you this week

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_05]: it's only a couple of times a year we come to you and say

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_05]: this is the need

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_05]: and that $150,000 by the end of the week is a need

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_05]: that's not just popcorn machines

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_05]: and whatever the latest coffee machine is

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_05]: no that's that's to continue broadcasting

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_05]: and moving forward in this year

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_05]: 800-347-5151

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_05]: be a cheerful giver

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_05]: a cheerful member of the truth team today

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_05]: 800-347-5151

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_02]: let's hear from some of those people that have cheerfully given to this ministry

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_07]: point of view finding clarity in the chaos

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_01]: oh my goodness this show is so good

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_01]: my mom she's I mean she's so cute

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_01]: she is just like Adam gotta make sure she's got it on the right channel

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_01]: gotta get it on point of view

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and so I've just been listening to it with her

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and just really enjoying everything

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and um I really really like it

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_01]: so now I've been listening to it on my radio in my car

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and that magazine will be good for my husband to read

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_01]: so it's just so refreshing

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_01]: you don't get any of the real story with the regular news

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_01]: it just it makes you sick

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_01]: anyway so I'm happy to do my part to keep it going the air

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_00]: the Lord has really used point of view in so many ways over the years

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and so many lives I'm sure that you know

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and and I know that y'all's desire is to please the Lord

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_00]: to honor him with all that's done there

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: so thank y'all for all that you do

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_07]: finding clarity in the chaos

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_02]: point of view

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_02]: just before we take a break let me just mention that we do have

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_02]: various gifts that we send out to those of you at different giving levels

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I hope some of you will think supporting us on a monthly basis

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_02]: a dollar a day 30 dollars a month

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_02]: will give you of course the Outlook magazine

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_02]: those of you watching online

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm holding up the most recent issue

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_02]: which I think has been very effective

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and certainly brings together all sorts of great articles

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_02]: of course we also make available the booklets

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just holding up the one at the moment

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_02]: the importance of voting

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_02]: although we're going to be talking about a book

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_02]: that I've put together recently

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_02]: that gives you a summary of our next guest

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Lee Strobel

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and so that's the 30 dollar a month level

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_02]: but then also I might just mention

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_02]: that in addition to those

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_02]: if you give it the 50 dollar a month level

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_02]: we have this water bottle that is insulated

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and is a travel bottle

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_02]: that so we add to that as well

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and then at the hundred dollar a month level

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_02]: all of the things I've mentioned

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_02]: plus my two books

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_02]: discerning the future

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and understanding Islam

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_02]: we thought that these were very important

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and really in light of the fact

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_02]: we've been talking about the future

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_02]: where is this country going

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_02]: what's going to happen

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and also the issue of Islam

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_02]: because of the conflict taking place in Israel

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'll autograph those as well

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_02]: so at every level

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_02]: there are thank you gifts we like to send to you

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_05]: so much great information

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_05]: on the Point of View website

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_05]: so many incredible guests

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_05]: that Kirby gets on the air

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_05]: and many of these guests

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_05]: are people you're not hearing anywhere else

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I've already heard this week

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_05]: from some people that I've never heard

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_05]: on any other Christian radio show

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_05]: and you're finding these folks Kirby

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_05]: and getting them in to talk about

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_05]: what's going on behind the scenes

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_05]: what we need to know

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_05]: what the Bible says about these issues

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_05]: that really is the focus

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_05]: so we want to be a part of truth team

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_05]: this is truth team week

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_05]: we only do it a couple of times a year

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_05]: really need to hear from you right now

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_05]: if you can help us out

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_05]: we're almost halfway through day three

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_05]: almost halfway through day three

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_05]: and we'd love to hear from you

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_05]: maybe 10 calls during this next break

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[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_02]: when we come back we'll

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_02]: hear for a little bit with

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_02]: vice president of stewardship Jenna

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Wildler and then we're going to be talking to

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Lee Strobel

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_02]: an author of so many books

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and a good friend of the ministry

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_02]: perfect time to make the phone call

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_02]: because there'll be a long gap

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