Point of View September 17, 2024 – Hour 1 : The Millennial Round Table

[00:00:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Happy Tuesday, I hope your week is going well

[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited to spend a few hours with you this afternoon talking about so many political updates campaign updates

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: We are after all 48 days. Yes. I am counting every single one of those days until this election is over

[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_00]: With a lot of news headed your way, but before I get to what we'll cover today

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to introduce you know her well one of our guests on the first hour of this show

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Katrina Mosley, she is a speaker author advocate and founder and principal of PPM consulting

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_00]: She joins us with a wealth of knowledge

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Because she comes from the political world the policy world where she she has advised

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Organizations campaign and even policymakers on all sorts of issues that are near and dear to our hearts

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So thank you for joining us Katrina

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Happy to be here. Thank you Chelsea

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes in the second hour Josh Barnes with the Bible Explained, you know him as the YouTube host there

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a pastor and always brings to us a lot of really doctrinally sound analysis. So he'll be joining with us

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about some cultural issues during that hour, but we're really gonna start with

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_00]: What I'm sure you've all heard of by now is that there was a second assassination

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_00]: attempt on

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: former president Trump's life

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Just a few days ago on Sunday

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_00]: He was golfing in what they have said was an off the books or you know, really an off-the-cuff

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Golf outing that the Secret Service said that you know

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_00]: They've canvassed this golf course before because he plays there very frequently in Palm Springs

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So they have you know as one analyst or former Secret Service member mentioned, you know, they have a protocol

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_00]: They they've done this golf course many times. So the fact that it was an unplanned golf outing

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Really didn't deter them from being able to have a plan for the golf course

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_00]: But what did surprise everybody was a second assassin was within 300 to 500 yards

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm reading from former president Trump and as they were doing their boundary check around the hole on

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: The side they saw a rifle

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Sticking out through the trees and they were able to fire off a few rounds and scare off the would-be assassin

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Before this assassin was able to shoot at President Donald Trump. And so this is you know a second attempt

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if we can say it's a surprise Katrina with how

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_00]: dark and

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Militarized and weaponized this election has become it is after all the first failed one failed and so, you know, we've heard many

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Security members say that they're worried about President Trump and his safety

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I hear Mar-a-Lago as as locked down as you could imagine

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: but the fact to me that really stood out between and I would love to get your initial thoughts on all of this is

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_00]: That while they're saying the decision to golf that day was a last-minute decision

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_00]: The actual assassin was there for 12 hours. He was camped out. He had backpacks

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_00]: He had multiple weapons or weapons in his car. He had a GoPro camera

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So that was an interesting fact that really stood out to me the lawyer in me would say that you know evidence points to him

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Having some knowledge of whereabouts of the the president

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: beforehand would it not

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean if he had a GoPro camera

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_03]: He was definitely filming planning on filming his attempt and he was hoping to be successful and to be able to film it

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_03]: so there's so much that

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Went into the idea that this was definitely intentional

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_03]: This isn't some random act where he just decided to do this, you know a couple hours later

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_03]: he was there like he said 12 to 15 hours ahead of this this unscheduled golf game and

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Other details are coming out that he had snacks. He was prepared. Yeah water

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: He's kind of just camping out and I mean all of this just really points to more questions than answers

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Why wasn't that?

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Parameter sweet when the president did decide to make an unscheduled golf trip. I mean that entire area

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_03]: With him with him coming between 500 and 600 yards should have been swept. Why didn't they do that? I thank God

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_03]: this attempt the second attempt has failed and

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_03]: One can say that the Secret Service was successful

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But really this falls on the success of one person who actually did their job

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Instead of the many who probably did not sweep in that area beforehand

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You raise an interesting point because there's so many dynamics, you know, there's the role of his immediate team

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_00]: which is his only line of defense the Secret Service and

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I've heard many analysts come out saying, you know security wise you're right that there was a failure to not secure that outside

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Perimeter if you look at a map or pull it up online

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_00]: The shape of the golf course is almost a rectangle and he was out on the outside street

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Outside of that rectangle but definitely within shooting distance of the president which is unacceptable

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Many you know in the social in the Secret Service world are saying, you know, they did their jobs

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is why they were able to intercept him

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But not only do we have questions around that, you know

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: There needs to be continue to be this discussion around President Biden's failure to increase his security protocol to increase the funding

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_00]: and I will know because I'm criticizing him that they apparently did have what they said was a very

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: A very good conversation on Sunday former President Trump with President Biden about this where President Biden

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You know essentially wished him well said he was glad he was safe and that he would see what he could do about

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Increasing that security. I don't know why we're just now having that conversation when within 60 days we'd already had an attempt

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But apparently, you know, there has been a request from President Biden to Congress to expand

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Funding to allow for that to happen. I I don't know if I want to hold my breath

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I'm hopeful that there can be stronger protection for President Trump

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Did you did you see any of that, you know from the Secret Service side of this?

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I mean not really I did hear today that

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_03]: one of the leading officials for the Secret Service did have a press conference today and

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Dan Bongino who some of you may know is in talk radio and is a former Secret Service agent that worked the president to detail

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_03]: He had a lot to say and he actually worked with this

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Official during his time in the Secret Service and let's just say he he wasn't impressed when he was working with them

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_03]: and he's still not impressed and

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_03]: It just continues to raise a lot of questions like, you know

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Is there a mole in the camp because this was an unscheduled golfing?

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_03]: So why was this person able to just camp out for 12 hours knowing that Trump was going to show up?

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's so many questions there and as far as President Biden

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Having a good conversation and offering more funds for security, you know, I think

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Well number one we shall remember like where is President Biden? He's really out to lunch. We haven't really had a president in a month

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so he doesn't even remember he's president at the time

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So I really don't know how substantive that conversation really was

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_03]: But what I have noticed is that Trump has been very gracious to his security team very gracious and speaking about the Secret Service

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, wouldn't you

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Mean, I mean he's in a position where they're his line his line out of defense

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_03]: You're right. You're absolutely right

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Like you can't really trash the people that are holding the guns and information about your whereabouts

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_03]: so even with President Biden keeps being gracious because

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_03]: We know that when Robert Kennedy jr. Stepped out of the race and through his support behind Trump

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Immediately Secret Service detail was passed from him

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Immediately knowing that he has a history in a family history of assassination and

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_03]: In attempts on his life and his family's life

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know how far this will go as far as helping out funding and hearing Trump, but we'll see

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see more when we get back after this short break

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_05]: This is viewpoints with Kirby Anderson

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_06]: During this campaign season will voters settle for generalities or will they demand specifics? We'll find that out in seven weeks

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Politicians are known for speaking in vague platitudes

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_06]: But generally they are forced to give more specific answers when asked by voters or the media

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Because this commentary is heard nationally

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_06]: I will focus on presidential candidates though. I could use the state and local elections to illustrate my point as well

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Kamala Harris talks in generalities. She says in our nation

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_06]: I think people are ready to turn the page or

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_06]: One of the highest priorities is to do what we can to support and strengthen the middle class or we need a new way forward

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Each time she uses one of these catch phrases and filler words. I want to ask how do you plan to do this?

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_06]: There are some specifics like proposed tax on long-term capital a tax on unrealized capital gains for taxpayers with high net worth

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_06]: But specifics are rarely mentioned instead phrases about hope optimism and a way forward or use frequently

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_06]: By contrast you have speeches and interviews with Donald Trump where he proposes an extension of his previous tax rates and a targeted tax cut

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_06]: He wants to establish a government efficiency commission this time

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_06]: He proposes removing ten regulations for every one regulation

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_06]: One of the biggest criticisms at the Democratic Convention was project 2025, which is full of specific recommendations

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_06]: The Trump administration may not implement many of them and you may not like some of them

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_06]: But the 900 page document is detailed and specific

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_06]: This election will determine if voters settled for generalities or demanded specifics

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_06]: American voters deserve more than vague platitudes and campaign slogans

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[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, welcome back to the millennial roundtable where Petrina Mosley and I are discussing really the next steps after the failed

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_00]: assassination attempt against President Donald Trump's life is

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Accountability and the fact that that this person his name

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Is one that you know, I'll go ahead and repeat it but it's Ryan Ruth

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: He is in custody in Florida

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And after the first attempt and really the debacle that we found after congressional hearings where Congress looked into

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Secret Service had them come in and go to the hearings which often if you don't know and Petrina

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I know you can attest to this the the hearings are political charade of sorts

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It gives Congress the ability to say look we're doing something they get sound bites

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_00]: But sometimes those don't actually lead to anything and so, you know

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_00]: One point of accountability would be to go beyond the Secret Service

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Hearing and really for them to get a deep dive at every level of protocol

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_00]: The FBI is above the Secret Service and and the CIA is a certain entity with some sway

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So really it's incumbent upon Congress and the oversight committees to do this due diligence and to do these investigations

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it not Petrina?

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Is and you're right a lot of it is just political theater and it's for sound bites and it's to show that they're doing something

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, it's a political game because nobody wants to paint themselves as the actual

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Terrorist fear-mongering people that call Trump Nazi every other week. So they have to do something

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_03]: but you know ultimately I think what Trump needs to do is really invest in

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_03]: In private security that is not attached to the FBI or the Secret Service

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_03]: but that solely has his well-being and his family's will be in mind because obviously

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_03]: The Secret Service has been compromised in some way whether it's in competency or it's in a mole or

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_03]: The FBI has been compromised as well in the Department of Justice

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_03]: We know that from the way that they're going after people who tweet things that are against the Biden Harris administration that just happened this week

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_03]: actually and

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_03]: we know that they've been compromised and going up to parents who go to school board meetings and

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Talk about parental rights and wanted to protect their children from gender ideology. So we know that there is a deep state and

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_03]: In this deep state was at work even while Trump was in office in this 2016 administration

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_03]: We saw that

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_03]: With January 6th how there were feds out there who are urging people to go into the Capitol

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And things that they knew ahead of time but yet spurred violence on

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_03]: There's so much to dig through here that shows that our

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Department of Justice is actually Department of Injustice and can't be trusted and at this point

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's just prayers for the Trump team to make it to the election and to make it to the inauguration if you win

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_03]: He obviously has

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_03]: he's obviously threatening a lot of powers at play and

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_03]: That does make him maybe a more attractive choice for some people. I

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Think you're right in that. He definitely needs to be looking at private security and in addition

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's so many ways to think about this one is, you know, the head of the FBI division there in Florida himself

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: came from

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Is in the Biden administration obviously and he had such

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_00]: vitriol towards President Trump in his past and in his social media post and he had spoken out so

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So strongly against that he was advised to take down his social media in order to get the promotion into the role over

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Over the FBI that he had in Florida

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I was personally relieved to see that not only did governor DeSantis

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Keep Ruth in custody

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_00]: He FBI demanded that they take custody over Ruth and DeSantis governor DeSantis said no

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have an independent investigation in the state of Florida

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think everything should be on the table for that

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Because of a lot of reasons not just that people's lives are on the line

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Not just that democracy is actually on the line when you have and he's the only presidential candidate running by the way who's received votes

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: He's there's only one who has received American votes and gone through the primary process and then you have hit an attempt on his life

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Not once but twice

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It's there's so much at stake from a democratic standpoint

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But in addition to that, I think it goes to show that we as Americans

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_00]: We know so little about our federal government and they call it in the law school

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_00]: They call it, you know, the fourth branch of government is the administrative state. What is that?

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It's FBI IRS

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_00]: All the Pentagon Secretary of State Secretary of Commerce office all of these departments Treasury

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_00]: education state affairs it goes on and on its ballooned beyond just an

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_00]: untenable

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Unsustainable economic model for the United States to keep as large as it is

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's our federal debt right there and our taxpayer dollars, which we will talk about

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But we we have a sitting president who we have no idea about his mental state that's been kept from us

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't really know where he is. We haven't hardly seen him

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_00]: we have so little knowledge about how our state operates and I

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't know the lawyer in me or the policy make, you know policy maker in me

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Is what is the solution here?

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And it is for President Trump if he were to win and I would hope Harris

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know that she would do this is to slash this deep state more than he did last time

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_00]: he could have done more last time and

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: For there to be more transparency, you know light is such a disinfectant and for us to say like we demand

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Transparency where our budget dollars going who's at the helm who is running these things and making these decisions?

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And I would hope Petrina. Do you think Congress is the right Avenue for that for that demand for transparency?

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they hold the power of the purse under the Constitution

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_00]: They after all fund the deep state in the administrative state this fourth branch of government

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know there in my mind is where the accountability should start and I wonder if you just have any ideas on that. I

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Agree that that's where it should start, but I won't hold my breath because of the pattern we've seen we still have no accountability

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: In terms of how the federal government

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Handled kovat 19

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So we have so much to do there

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_03]: And then secondly, I will say this that Trump was lucky that this attempt happened in the state of Florida

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_03]: where governor Rhonda Sanders has established a really good pattern of

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Accountability of using all the powers that he has to do rightly and to do justly

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_03]: We've seen him do that on a number of issues that that we care about that our audience cares about

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I think it is it is the best thing that ever could have happened for this

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Scenario to have happened in the state of Florida because I do believe governor Rhonda Sanders

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_03]: He will get to the bottom of it. There will be a disinfecting of bringing things to the light

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Under his watch and I think that is where accountability will will start

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_03]: but it will be in these isolated events that have good leadership already in place if

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_03]: If Trump were to win the election he would definitely have to do a serious clean-out a serious clean-out and

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_03]: That stars in Congress Tuesday that includes endorsements that includes the next midterms

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Everything, you know, it's interesting

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You raise governor DeSantis's record on that because I did forget but I was able to attend

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Iowa primary events, you know the fame the famous events by the

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Family forum there where they had I think it was close to ten primary candidates on stage interviewed by Tucker Carlson

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_00]: and some of it went abysmally south which was

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting thing to watch but but one who shined was governor DeSantis and he the first things he was talking about

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Allowed me to see into and you know

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_00]: He was able to speak in long form for 20 minutes 40 minutes and then have answers in front of a live audience

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_00]: We never get to see candidates speak in long form unless you go see them in person at a rally

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But for him to start his conversations as he campaigned with ones about accountability

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_00]: How deep he was gonna slash the FBI the IRS?

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And also things he's ahead in Florida on so many issues like cryptocurrency

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Really if the left is going there if the world economic forum is going there

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It was very evident to me that Ron DeSantis would also go there and is ahead on it, which I think is different

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I do think

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Government can be slow and reactive. Oh, no now we have to fix a problem

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That's already arisen and to hear governor DeSantis preempt those problems in Florida already

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Hope that I know I hope there's a role for him in the next administration

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I hope that he is able to bridge the gap and and do some of the things that he was running on because it sounded

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Really really strong, you know the other part of accountability that we're gonna discuss especially after this short break

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'll start now is the rhetoric

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_00]: The sheer rhetoric and the fact that even you know, Hillary Clinton

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Within a day after the second assassination attempt was calling him a danger to the world

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: To the globe, you know that the rhetoric on the other side, you know pictures of him on Time magazine with a Hitler stash

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Comparing him to Mussolini

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Fascists all the horrific things that they have called this man through propaganda

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Not for a year not for four years. Not even for eight years

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_00]: before

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_00]: 2016 when he announced they started the propaganda machine against him and

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_00]: There's zero

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Accountability I'm hearing from anyone on that side other than the platitudes of we're glad he's alive

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And some aren't even saying that and so I want to talk Petrina when we get back after the short break

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Not just about the rhetoric

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[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And now here again

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Chelsea Yeoman

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, welcome back to the millennial roundtable where Petrina Mosley and I are discussing we're discussing various levels of

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_00]: accountability for the second attempt on President Trump's life this last weekend and we're really

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_00]: here at this point where

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Petrina I don't know about you, but my Nana growing up always told me when people show you who they are believe them

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a tough cookie. I like to think I took on some of her characteristics, but I

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I've had

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Such a hard time looking at the America that we're seeing in front of us and frankly not grieving a little bit about it

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I received a text from you know, one of my favorite people in the world

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_00]: She's a dear friend of mine, but she is liberal and her text was not empathy after the assassination attempt

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't worry about where we're headed as a country or even

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Consoling us who the rest of us were conservative

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_00]: it was I have zero patience for this because if he's worried about guns, he should have implemented gun reform and

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That was such a hateful comment from someone that

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I know to be a compassionate person and I know to be a loving person and I thought if that's how she's

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Responding and then you go online which I try not to but when you do

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You see this vitriol on the other side that they can't believe he missed or

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_00]: people openly condoning this act of violence

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think condoning attempted murder in any respect is abominable and

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Petrina just to say, you know if they're talking this way no wonder there there are parties also acting this way

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: They feel deeply militarized in a way that I don't know that we've seen at least in our millennial lifetime

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there used to be a unity after 9-11, you know, we were the 9-11 young generation

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_00]: That was so in it's so impressionable upon us like to have patriotism unity and oneness in our country

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And I know that was a moment in time

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And disunity is common in the American story

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: but between this idea that

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no common ground left. There's no common truth left between the two sides. They live in separate realities

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, they they could be told the same fact and

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_00]: One it might not be a fact at all. Thanks to the news and the media and AI but to they'll they have such a

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Different worldviews. They'll never analyze it the same and then I also wanted to ask you your thoughts on this idea of how militarized

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_00]: The left is appearing to be

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they are singing from the same playbook. They're as radical as could be

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You know faithful fidelity religious like fidelity to their political causes at the cost of human souls

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I wanted to just you and I haven't talked about this. Let's talk about it. Oh

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Man, you bring up so so many great points

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Who where to begin I

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Agree, it definitely is militarized and it has religious tones to it the way that they are so

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_03]: lock-and-step that they can't

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Really empathize they can't even see facts the same way and that is scary

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_03]: my initial thought was

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_03]: the way that

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_03]: The left really has trained people and I don't even know when this started but they have trained people that

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_03]: ideology is empathy

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Empathy and ideology

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting they can't show any empathy outside of their ideology

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_03]: so there's an assassination attempt on a public servant and

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Their first response is about taking away guns and Second Amendment and all that stuff like that

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_03]: which we know there's ulterior motives to the doctors of this ideology and

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_03]: They don't really know sometimes but they do but

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_03]: When I think about that about how far we've gone to where you do see people that

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Openly say they wish the shooter hadn't missed during the first assassination attempt and now I'm doing the second assassination attempt

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_03]: We barely hear anything about it. It's kind of like okay, so the news now is gone and the only people who are asking questions

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_03]: and

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_03]: outrage are the people who are

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_03]: leaning more Republican more right

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I think the really only solution for this is

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Ironically, it's not political. It is

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_03]: It's prayer and it's building conversations on a different topic

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Because really this is a matter of the heart

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And we can't start with the surface stuff and kind of change people's hearts and if you get into a conversation

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_03]: You know with someone that you know is liberal or leftist ideology minded and they don't show any empathy or compassion

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_03]: That's when my advice would be to step back and let's have another conversation about just life what's going on in there and

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Rebuild from that standpoint because we got to rebuild humanism and we got to rebuild

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_03]: that there is a thing called a heart and

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Not just a mind that is set on ideology and really only God could change the heart

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's a great

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Segway to the bigger things in life to the greater things in life that really changes a person's heart and then we'll be able to

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_03]: See a change in behavior and action in our culture

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Wise words Katrina for president everyone. I mean when I think of what you're saying, it's it's so true

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_00]: We talk all the time about you know, the human heart

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_00]: The Bible says eternity is set in the human heart, you know, we understand as humans

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_00]: There's something beyond us and I think we search to serve that and to have that's why there's pagan gods

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: That's in all of history

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_00]: there's always been religion whether or not it was Christian or not and

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_00]: The religion of this post-christian society we're seeing on the left is if it is a faithful fidelity to

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Ideology what you're talking about on the left ideology. You can even see they're ritualistic about things having abortion

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_00]: abortion

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_00]: sacrifices right outside the DNC

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_00]: There's always sorts of ways we could talk about that but to say

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_00]: The issue of the heart, you know without Christ there's no compassion and without Christ there's no love

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no forgiveness

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no and for us to say

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_00]: No matter what side of the aisle you're on as a Christian for us to check ourselves and say our our

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever party you're with your parties hate

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_00]: should not

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Infiltrate your heart

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. We can look at the other side and feel

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, I'm sorry for the depravity. Sorry for the lack of faith. Sorry for

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_00]: What it's like to live in a world where this world is it for you if this was it right if there was no eternity

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_00]: No heaven

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing we were living for outside of ourselves

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like serving others and caring for others and being community and our families, you know when the left they don't have tenants of family anymore

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they destroyed marriage. They've destroyed

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Parenthood they've destroyed the longevity of marriage with no fault of wars then they've destroyed even the exclusivity of marriage

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Where now everybody, you know, they've destroyed all these more foundational principles that any society in history has relied on to flourish

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So what they have left is is their politics and anyways, I think I like what you're saying about that

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_00]: You know getting to the heart of this discipleship that needs to happen before we talk politics

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is you know when I go to my pro-life rallies and I'm outside the Supreme Court this year a few times and

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_00]: The protesters are screaming the most horrendous things that you as you you get on stage and you you know

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I've had these moments where I see the hate in their eyes

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_00]: How does it get there? You know, like how can one side be so

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Hate filled and I think you know God's revealed to me

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, how do you have an assassin try to take out a potential presidential candidate?

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I think without Christ there's there's no love and so for us to continue as believers

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what you think about that, but that's been my impression this this year something I'm working through

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think you know, it's just like with believers where we we add on things

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_03]: gentleness kindness patience goodness long-suffering

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Self-control all of these fruits of the Spirit from Galatians 5 is just the same as with unbelievers

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Which Galatians 5 also talks about the fruits of the flesh it piles up, you know being being malicious a liar anger

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Immoral and all those things they begin to pile up and suppress God

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_03]: suppress God in their conscience by denying that he created someone male and female not that you can take that control into your own hand

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And do what you want to do

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_03]: They suppress it by denying the humanity of the unborn

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Saying basically we're going to sacrifice our children on the altar of convenience

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_03]: which many people have heard that phrase and it's so so true and we have just a culture of a

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Culture of godlessness and so it adds on and especially what we saw through Kobe where people were even using

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Scriptures to deny people their conscious rights their religious rights their bodily autonomy

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_03]: So and this is what bodily autonomy counts, right?

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you get to choose that to be a government experiment or not?

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I mean you have all these different scenarios are really piled on

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_03]: One after another and this is where this is where we're at

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's how you get the heart controlling the course of your life as Proverbs 4 23 says it guards your heart

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_03]: But it for out of it comes the whole wellspring of life

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Basically saying out of your heart and in your thinking comes the the flow of your life

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know with these types of things that happen

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I know it's so tempting for all of us to just be caught up in our own feelings and anger

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_03]: We just want to win the debate

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_03]: But really is a red flag telltale sign that I need to take a step back here

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's a whole lot more hurdles to cross before we even get to behavior because they piled on

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Maliciousness corruptness and moral behavior all the things that suppresses God as Romans 1 and 2 talk about

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_03]: But there's so much more work to do in the heart and I believe

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_00]: We can do we've got we've got work cut out ahead of us more when we get back from this break

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_04]: You're listening to point of view your listener supported source for truth

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to the millennial roundtable

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_00]: This is Chelsea Yeoman and we are turning now to discuss a topic that I was just personally curious about if you've listened to us

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: At all before you know that I am really interested in foreign policy and what America how we're playing

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_00]: On the field with other nations. There are so many world conflicts proxy worlds for world

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Proxy wars for us to keep up with around the globe

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_00]: That is deeply interesting important and pivotal

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_00]: We understand what our presidential candidates have to say about the proxy wars or the direct conflict that our military

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Are involved in right now, although I did hear from the debate stage

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Vice President Harris mentioned that we don't have any military serving in combat zones right now

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I immediately of course on social media saw a video. I'm not sure if you saw this Katrina

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Our military service members standing around the TV watching the debate from a tent in the middle of the combat a combat zone

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And they said then where are we?

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Where are we if she says we don't exist but the point being

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_00]: We've had President Trump before for four years and we understand his foreign policy is one that I think you know

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_00]: he presents really strongly in terms of

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_00]: isolationist where he doesn't want to be involved to waste a bunch of American taxpayer dollars if he doesn't have to be

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: He is a strong negotiator. We know as a businessman from his past, but also that worked out

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Well with strong tariffs against China

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_00]: he was one of the only US presidents in recent years to go meet with the North Korean Kim Jong-un and so

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_00]: He met with Putin obviously

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But he always was very strong with him in a way that some of these proxy wars

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_00]: We see existing now did not happen under his watch

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_00]: however

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Under Vice President Harris's watch and you know, obviously Biden's watch

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_00]: We've had a lot change in the world around us

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So Petrina had I noticed that I have not heard Vice President Harris and any of her interviews or coverage really talk about foreign policy

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_00]: At all. I mean she kind of skirted around Ukraine

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know what she stands for but I found an article as the researcher that I am does

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_00]: On national view, of course, you can go to point of view net to find these articles

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You can like us on point of view radio on Facebook

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But this outlined that she does have a foreign policy guru on her staff and who he is

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_00]: They he worked for the Obama administration. He now works for the Biden administration

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a senior foreign policy advisor to Vice President Harris, and he also has a book on his foreign policy theories

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Was did you look into this Petrina when I sent it your way and and what are your initial thoughts on that?

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think that you're right. We haven't heard much from Kamala Harris on her foreign policy

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Experience and how she plans to negotiate and make deals that are in the best interest of Americans and world peace

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Think it I think it's because she hasn't really done much

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean even as vice president, which is a role that really does do a lot of international deal working on behalf of the president and

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Just mediating a lot of things. I mean she couldn't even handle being the borders are so we know what a failure that was

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_03]: That's just down in Texas and Arizona and neighboring

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_03]: South American countries, so she doesn't have a good track record so far

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_03]: So she needed to put out something and I don't know if it's her ideas are probably her handlers, but

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not I'm not impressed right now

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So I have no reason to think that anybody should be waiting to be impressed if she were to hold office. I

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Know it's it's it's certainly something we've had a four-year track record to compare against which I will to get to the bait next hour

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_00]: So don't go anywhere because next hour we are breaking down that debate as well as the pro-life votes

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_00]: But before we get into those topics specifically

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_00]: She was quiet in the debate about these issues and you know her her

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Spokesperson said she's just not deeply interested in them. But as the president United States, I don't think you get the

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't get the the ability to be not deeply interested in foreign policy

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_00]: So what we do know is we have a four-year track records for both candidates

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Ostensibly, you know vice president Harris hasn't been at the helm

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think anything that happens under by the administration can be attributed to her

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_00]: She is more left than Biden. We know that and also have an article that discusses her stances on these things

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Her this foreign policy advisor and his book talked a lot about the need to not engage in foreign conflict

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_00]: essentially ever but that you should use diplomacy and provide a lot of

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Humanitarian aid into world conflicts and I thought that was interesting because it at first I was reading his comments in his book

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And his name is Gordon and he says that if Americans would knew what would follow they would never have gotten

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Involved in Afghanistan in the first place and would have let the Soviets stay there

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And he goes on to talk about a whole host of really horrific. I'm not even talking about just Iraq. We're talking

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Humanitarian crisis is ethnic cleansing wars around the world

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Genocide wars around the world where he essentially makes the case that at no point should America ever

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Intervene in those types of wars and leave it to the UN

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Instead we should provide humanitarian aid

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And diplomacy. Well, we all know that you can't have diplomacy with you know a psychopath

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_00]: world leader

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But the other point of this analysis on the National Review article

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought was interesting at the end where they said, you know adding

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Humanitarian aid into these conflicts is not always the right answer not because we don't care about

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_00]: The crisis that's happening on the ground

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_00]: We want people to have food and supplies

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_00]: But it lets those leaders not have to worry about it so much and so it kind of frees them up to go

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_00]: warmonger and continue their ethnic cleansing

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Because aid is coming in and so I thought his stance was interesting, you know

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_00]: They predict that it's likely he'll have a high position in the administration

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know Petrina your thoughts on foreign policy, but we certainly have a really strong track record

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that Trump's foreign policy policy seemed to cast that balance. He is an isolationist

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think would be involved in Ukraine sending all the money we're sending there

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I do think we'd be involved in Israel for different reasons. What are your thoughts?

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Well as someone who has previously worked at the United States Agency for International Development

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Which handles a lot if not the only agency that handles humanitarian aid it it is nearly impossible

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Not to do humanitarian aid and to consider yourself

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Neutral in any type of war zone or controversy

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It just it just doesn't happen and for one is because a lot of these humanitarian quote-unquote humanitarian programs come with liberal ideology

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Streams that the government has to adhere to in order to access these programs

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_03]: secondly, we pay a

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_03]: major portion of the UN funds for humanitarian aid

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_03]: child welfare

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Reproductive health global health anything in those buckets

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_03]: We we are the the major that the primary don't donor to those buckets

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So we by default are involved either way

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_03]: so

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm curious. I'm very curious because this guy seems to

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Take an approach that I didn't think Kamala would take but who knows because she's a blank slate

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she hasn't said it before. I mean that literally and figuratively

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I think you know, they give her talking points in the day. She just goes with whatever they give

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think she's thinking for herself

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Unlikely, I'll say is that you know, you can't really be an isolationist

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Because what your neighbor does impacts you you could just even see that at the local level

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_03]: But you definitely will see at the global level

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I think what the mistake was and being in Afghanistan for 20 years was thinking we can nation-build

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And I remember at the height of 9-11

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_03]: We were all so united and patriotic and thinking we're gonna spread freedom around the world

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we're gonna we're gonna take down these terrorists

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to give justice to those who've been oppressed and we're gonna bring democracy and freedom

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_03]: To another country and that just didn't happen and that's because every country has its own culture and every culture has its own

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Theocracy

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Ironically people talk about a tree knife

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, people talk about not one to be under a theocracy but every country and culture really is under sometimes

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so let's keep all these things in line

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Well said more after this break

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_05]: In 19th century London two towering historical figures did battle not with guns and bombs

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_05]: But words and ideas

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_05]: London was home to Karl Marx the father of communism and

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_05]: legendary Baptist preacher Charles Spurgeon

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_05]: London was in many ways the center of the world economically militarily and

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Intellectually Marx sought to destroy religion the family and everything the Bible supports

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Spurgeon stood against him warning of socialism's dangers

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Spurgeon understood Christianity is not just religious truth

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