Point of View October 8, 2024 – Hour 2 : Election Integrity

[00:00:04] Across America, Live, this is Point of View.

[00:00:21] We're glad you've stuck with us here for Point of View and you know election integrity is on everybody's mind right now as we face elections and you know people are wondering well is my vote going to count? Is somebody going to steal it by voting illegally? And so you know it's something that we need to talk about how are we doing on that issue and with me as an old friend.

[00:00:42] Her name is Candy Noble. I know that you've heard her before she's been in our studio several times but she is the state representative here in the state of Texas sort of in the area that we are sitting in right now and she is not my state representative but I sort of feel like she is because she sends out she's one of the harder working state reps here in Texas and she sends out these wonderful wonderful newsy emails that help me stay up to date on my state.

[00:01:12] And so Candy thank you so much for being in here in the studio with me to talk about all of these things.

[00:01:19] Thank you, Penn. I have enjoyed we were talking before we came on the air that we've known each other since the last century which is kind of funny to think about.

[00:01:28] And I'm just so grateful for your life and your service as well.

[00:01:33] I think we got trained in Texas politics in the same venue which was this this Republican Women's Club that was also just this pro-life friend group.

[00:01:42] And so we did and then you went on to run for this position and it's really important because the state of Texas is an example of a large state that has well there are always challenges but has remained conservative pro-life and sort of pro-family.

[00:02:02] So we Christians are comfortable here but we're always having to fight to retain that status and I know that you're on the front lines of that.

[00:02:10] I am and when it comes to voting it's it's it boggles my mind that people don't want one eligible voter to cast one eligible vote.

[00:02:20] And and that is what we're up against in some areas and and we we decided years ago in Texas that we would we would keep our voter rolls up to date.

[00:02:30] And there were counties in Texas that did it fabulously.

[00:02:33] We we live in one and and there were counties in Texas that decided that that wasn't important to them and that even if they knew a voter had died they wouldn't take them off the rolls.

[00:02:42] And so we ended up passing bills to to make that happen to make sure that that happened.

[00:02:50] And I think it's interesting to note that since 2021 Texas has purged 1.1 million names from our voter rolls and and just to keep them keep them up to date.

[00:03:04] I'm really proud of us for the work that we've done.

[00:03:06] And I am too and you know back in 2021 when we passed you know another election reform bill of course after the 2020 elections a lot of states did that.

[00:03:17] And but they were criticized states like Georgia states like Texas so that that you know you're going to hamstring certain groups of people keep them from voting.

[00:03:29] It's going to make it too hard.

[00:03:31] And you know the whole idea of voter ideas have been criticized because of making it too hard for certain people to vote.

[00:03:39] But that is just I just find that so incredibly interesting because I have I ran the food pantry clothes closet our church for 17 years as a volunteer and we required an ID for people to get help.

[00:03:52] These are people at their most vulnerable time.

[00:03:55] And guess what?

[00:03:56] Everybody has an ID.

[00:03:57] Everybody has an ID without an ID.

[00:03:59] Yeah.

[00:04:00] And you shouldn't be able to vote without one.

[00:04:01] Yeah.

[00:04:01] I don't think that's a very high bar for people to get over.

[00:04:05] So what's happened like since 2021 when we shored up our elections even more.

[00:04:11] So what's happened to the participation in voting?

[00:04:15] It's actually been very strong.

[00:04:17] And the funny thing is is that we had quite the issue in Harris County.

[00:04:22] Harris County is where Houston is for those that don't know.

[00:04:26] And it is it is one it is one of four Texans live in Harris County.

[00:04:31] I mean, I mean, one in five, I should say one in five voters.

[00:04:35] And so 20 percent of our vote for the entire state comes out of Harris County.

[00:04:39] And their elections have been such a mess.

[00:04:42] And it's just been it's been in the news.

[00:04:46] But in the 2020, I mean, the 2022 election, which was a midterm election, they didn't get

[00:04:52] enough ballots to voting places.

[00:04:54] There were there were between 12 and 17, you know, voting precincts that did not have ballots

[00:04:59] that ran out and people waited hours to vote.

[00:05:03] And many didn't end up voting.

[00:05:04] There were 21 candidates who said, we don't think that the that the the election was accurate

[00:05:11] as a result of that.

[00:05:12] So the state legislature said, OK, we've given you enough time to fix your fix your issues in

[00:05:18] Harris County.

[00:05:18] We actually we actually passed legislation that took away that that office of election

[00:05:26] administration and put it back under elected officials there.

[00:05:28] They've had six elections in the meantime, and they've all run very smoothly.

[00:05:32] So how do you feel about the November election there?

[00:05:36] I feel like it's really going to be much, much better that that there's a big hammer waiting

[00:05:42] on them, though, that the secretary of state is willing to take over the elections there

[00:05:45] if necessary.

[00:05:46] And so the things that we're seeing are really good.

[00:05:50] The the results and the work that's what are for instance, I mean, a lot of people worry

[00:05:56] about election fraud taking place.

[00:05:58] So and I've heard that there's been all kinds of training for election judges and poll watchers

[00:06:04] and things like that.

[00:06:05] So what do you what status in Texas and what are you hearing about the rest of the country

[00:06:10] on that?

[00:06:10] Well, let me let me tell you my background.

[00:06:13] First of all, I was an election judge, which means that I ran a polling place on election

[00:06:17] day for 20 years before I was an elected official.

[00:06:19] And for those that are out there that that are honest and God fearing folks, would you I

[00:06:25] would recommend that you be one of those election workers in the upcoming election.

[00:06:30] There is a need nationwide for for good people to step up and fill those positions in our polling

[00:06:36] places.

[00:06:37] And, you know, I would always start the day with the speech that today we're not Republicans

[00:06:42] or Democrats.

[00:06:43] Today we're some Americans.

[00:06:44] And we're going to make sure that everyone that is qualified gets a chance to vote.

[00:06:49] And if they weren't on the rolls of Texas, you can't do same day voter registration.

[00:06:53] You have to register a month out.

[00:06:55] And so we would do our best to make sure that they got to vote or vote a provisional ballot.

[00:07:02] And that way, the ballot board, which is a group of individuals, could look at that and

[00:07:06] make sure if they were qualified to vote, that that vote did count.

[00:07:09] So it's really important that people who are honest step up and work the elections.

[00:07:16] But it's a little scary.

[00:07:18] I have a friend who has a good friend.

[00:07:22] I mean, a friend of a friend, right?

[00:07:23] In one of the swing states where they had ballots mailed to them four years ago.

[00:07:29] And he was a man who was single, divorced, and his children were all grown.

[00:07:34] And he got five ballots in the mail.

[00:07:38] And that was in Michigan.

[00:07:41] And those people were all registered to vote elsewhere except for him.

[00:07:45] And so those are the kind of things that make you want to kind of run through, you know,

[00:07:51] run outside and scream because it's really not okay when those kind of things happen.

[00:07:55] So I would just call on everyone to be vigilant and to speak up about doing a really clean election

[00:08:04] and making sure that those that have the opportunity to vote need to vote and that those that shouldn't vote don't.

[00:08:10] Hey, this is one way, ladies and gentlemen, you could actually affect this election.

[00:08:14] Just by making the situation in your own community better, fairer, and cleaner.

[00:08:21] So, you know, you can do that.

[00:08:23] Just call your, I guess you call your election officials in your county and find out how you can help.

[00:08:29] Yeah, everybody's really wanting, needing help.

[00:08:32] So that would be great.

[00:08:33] Well, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to continue this discussion.

[00:08:36] If you've got a question or a comment about election integrity, give us a call, 800-351-1212.

[00:08:42] We'll be back with more Point of View.

[00:08:58] This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson.

[00:09:04] Tariffs are in the news and are being debated between candidates.

[00:09:07] In the past, tariffs have been used to protect domestic industries and provide an additional source of revenue.

[00:09:13] The downsides of tariffs is that they increase the cost to consumers and can lead to retaliation from other countries.

[00:09:20] Dominic Pino posted the number 4,392.

[00:09:24] That's the number of pages in the harmonized tariff schedule of the United States.

[00:09:29] Before you even get to the first section, there are 900 pages of notes and rules for interpretation.

[00:09:34] He explains that once you get into the actual tariffs, you learn how tariffs have been manipulated to favor certain companies and countries and not others.

[00:09:42] Let's look, for example, at the tariffs on imported meat.

[00:09:45] The edible part of a turkey that is not cut in pieces, frozen or valued at less than 88 cents per kilogram is taxed at 8.8 cents per kilogram.

[00:09:53] But if the value is 88 cents or more per kilogram, it is taxed at 10%.

[00:09:58] But if it's not cut in pieces and is fresh or chilled rather than frozen, then it is taxed at 15 cents per kilogram regardless of valuation.

[00:10:07] But if you take the time to look at 17 separate trade agreements, you will find cases where the meat is not taxed.

[00:10:13] Imported knitted or crocheted fabrics of a width not exceeding 30 centimeters that contain a weight of 5% or more of elastomeric yarn but no rubber thread that has been made out of cotton are taxed at 8.8%.

[00:10:26] Then other materials are taxed at 8%.

[00:10:29] It should be obvious by now that most of these tariffs aren't listed to protect the consumer, but to give one company an advantage in the marketplace.

[00:10:38] I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view.

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[00:11:05] Welcome back.

[00:11:06] My guest is Candy Noble, and she represents House District 89 in Texas in the state legislature.

[00:11:14] She was elected in 2018.

[00:11:17] She is such a hardworking, effective legislator.

[00:11:23] She's passed a lot of good legislation that we've applauded.

[00:11:28] And so we're so grateful for you, Candy.

[00:11:31] And we're talking about voter integrity, which is one of her specialties.

[00:11:35] And so we have just been talking during the break about the importance of getting involved in elections and making them secure, but also voting.

[00:11:43] Don't forget to vote, right?

[00:11:44] Yes.

[00:11:45] I was just telling Pena that there was a – I heard a pollster speaking last week, and he said if you're agnostic or self-identified as agnostic or atheist, you have an 80% chance of voting.

[00:11:55] But that's just not true for Christians, and that breaks my heart.

[00:11:59] Come on, people.

[00:12:00] Let's get out there and vote.

[00:12:01] You know, I think it's a stewardship that Christians should vote because we have this opportunity to make a difference and make our voice heard.

[00:12:08] Let's take a call.

[00:12:09] Marshall is in the state of Maryland.

[00:12:10] Hi, Marshall.

[00:12:11] Thanks for calling.

[00:12:12] Hello there.

[00:12:13] Yeah, I'm actually – I live in the state of Missouri.

[00:12:16] Oh, okay.

[00:12:17] Oh, it's M-O, not M-D.

[00:12:18] Okay.

[00:12:20] That's okay.

[00:12:21] That's all right.

[00:12:22] That's all right.

[00:12:23] I just called in.

[00:12:24] I mean, I am an election supervisor in the county, Warren County in Missouri, and I just wanted to comment on how hard everybody does work.

[00:12:32] I mean, the county clerk's office is the one who's in charge of it for us, and the amount of work her team does.

[00:12:37] So – and our days are long.

[00:12:38] I mean, we get there at 515 in the morning, and I'm done at 9 o'clock at night, and it's myself and other volunteers that just – you know,

[00:12:46] and we have, for voter integrity, two steps.

[00:12:49] So there are two – every time that that ballot – when a person comes in to check in,

[00:12:53] there's two sets of signatures that have to go in the book about that person.

[00:12:56] You get a ballot that has two different signature initials on it as well.

[00:13:00] Every step of the way, there are one person from each party who puts their hands on that ballot or interacts with that person in so much as to make sure that they can vote.

[00:13:08] And, you know, it's voter integrity.

[00:13:10] I hear these things about fraud.

[00:13:13] I just can't imagine how it can happen in that sense.

[00:13:15] I mean, you have to, you know, steal the ballots as they're going somewhere and reinitial them or something.

[00:13:20] It just – it doesn't make sense.

[00:13:21] It doesn't make sense.

[00:13:21] Do you have a lot of mail-in voting in Missouri?

[00:13:25] We have early voting, some of it, and absentee voting, yes.

[00:13:28] I don't know the percentages of it, but that's done also at the county clerk's office through their office.

[00:13:33] And to see how diligent they are with what they do when they hand over to us, I mean, it just – and again,

[00:13:38] I understand we're a small county in one county, and it doesn't mean that what we do there is spread to every county.

[00:13:43] It does as good as we – I won't say as good as we do, as well as we do maybe.

[00:13:48] But I just – it just gets infuriating when I do hear these stories or assumptions that that's happening when I see it.

[00:13:54] Yeah, I don't know if there are assumptions.

[00:13:56] Thank you so much because it sounds like you're doing a very good job there.

[00:14:01] And when he says assumptions of fraud, that's what I always wonder.

[00:14:05] So in some areas, though, it doesn't seem like it's as buttoned down as it is that he describes.

[00:14:11] Yeah, well, what's interesting in Texas, at least, is when we purged our rolls,

[00:14:17] we found that there were at least 1,930 people that had registered to vote that were not American citizens.

[00:14:27] And so we – well, actually, it was more than that.

[00:14:30] But that is how many of them had actually voted.

[00:14:34] They had a voting history.

[00:14:35] And if we put that in perspective, you remember when Bush won over Gore in Florida?

[00:14:43] That – the difference in Florida was only 537 votes.

[00:14:47] So it really does matter when people are not qualified to vote, get on our voter rolls.

[00:14:52] And every election worker is doing the best that they can with the information they've been given.

[00:14:57] So there was supposed to be – a lot of people on the right were trying to demand that we would pass at the federal level

[00:15:04] something called the SAVE Act, which would require a person to prove their citizenship when they voted

[00:15:11] or when they registered.

[00:15:13] And it didn't get included in other must-pass legislation.

[00:15:18] I don't understand that, really.

[00:15:20] Why is that – it seems like a no-brainer to me.

[00:15:24] But, you know, we have people that actually like a system that's a little more chaotic, don't we?

[00:15:28] It's really weird because we used to say – you remember the old commercial,

[00:15:31] membership has its privileges?

[00:15:33] And I think it was American Express.

[00:15:35] Citizenship has its privileges.

[00:15:37] And we should celebrate those privileges but also ensure that those privileges are protected.

[00:15:42] Yeah, for sure.

[00:15:44] Okay, let's go to Cheryl in Georgia listening in on GNN.

[00:15:48] Hi, Cheryl.

[00:15:48] You've got a question.

[00:15:50] Yeah.

[00:15:51] How are these people with the hurricane going to be able to vote?

[00:15:55] Yeah.

[00:15:55] You know, having so much debris and stuff.

[00:15:58] I mean, where are they going to go?

[00:15:59] Are they going to have a place?

[00:16:00] Or is this just convenient not to be able to vote?

[00:16:03] Well, just – what about where you live?

[00:16:05] Have you been affected?

[00:16:06] Is your polling place going to be affected?

[00:16:08] Mm-hmm.

[00:16:09] No, I live in America, Georgia, which is below Macon.

[00:16:11] Okay.

[00:16:12] And no – but I'm just thinking of Florida.

[00:16:15] Yeah.

[00:16:15] And Florida and North Carolina also.

[00:16:18] Yeah.

[00:16:18] It's a great question.

[00:16:20] It's a great question.

[00:16:21] And hopefully our local – the leaders locally are making provisions for that even now, you know, a month away, that they're planning on how in the world we make sure that everybody that is qualified to vote has the opportunity to.

[00:16:34] Yes.

[00:16:34] I was reading about it today in, I think, North Carolina.

[00:16:38] And, you know, it's kind of jarring when your polling place has moved at the last minute, but people are going to have to actually tolerate that because they're going to have to make provisions.

[00:16:49] And I do hope and pray for both of those states and really all the states that have been affected that it won't affect voting.

[00:16:56] I think that that would be sad because it's the same principle.

[00:17:00] This is our right.

[00:17:01] This vote is such a precious thing.

[00:17:03] If someone doesn't vote or if someone votes for you and just negates your vote by voting for the opposite candidate, then you've lost a very important and treasured right, haven't you?

[00:17:18] Exactly.

[00:17:19] Okay.

[00:17:19] Well, let me – so what are we doing in Texas to prevent illegals from registering and voting?

[00:17:26] Well, we have – we've actually made some very significant changes in our law, including five new felonies.

[00:17:33] We found that prosecutors and our district attorneys weren't bothering to prosecute election fraud because it just wasn't worth it.

[00:17:43] It was all misdemeanors.

[00:17:44] And they had more important fish to fry, you know.

[00:17:47] And I agree with that.

[00:17:48] They probably did.

[00:17:49] But we did make five new felonies.

[00:17:51] And so we are just – we decided that we just wanted to get serious about this in Texas.

[00:17:55] We wanted to make sure that our elections were secure and that they were fair and that people, especially that did ballot harvesting – I don't know if everyone's familiar with that term – but that's where you go around and basically steal the votes of others and that they were prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

[00:18:12] And I'm really proud of us for stepping up and making sure that someone that steals your vote, if they do that, that that is not okay.

[00:18:20] So you're pretty confident about this state.

[00:18:23] Do you have any states that you – as you look across the country that you're not so confident about?

[00:18:27] Well, I don't know that I'm not confident about them.

[00:18:29] But I would like to point out that four years – no, eight years ago now, oh my goodness, that we had an election.

[00:18:37] I was actually the – it was weird.

[00:18:40] I was the president or the chairman of the Texas Electoral College when Trump was elected.

[00:18:44] That's right.

[00:18:45] And so we actually had an election that time where Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by something like 2.5 million nationwide.

[00:18:55] But if you looked at California alone, she won by 4.something million in California alone.

[00:19:05] So it doesn't take much if you have a very populous state to overwhelm the will of the other states.

[00:19:12] There's many states that don't even have a million people in them.

[00:19:16] And so that's why it's so important that we make sure that every state does the best that they can to protect the vote.

[00:19:23] Okay.

[00:19:23] I've got a couple questions for you.

[00:19:25] We've got like two minutes left.

[00:19:26] But a big issue in Texas, and I know across the nation, some states have been very successful in implementing school choice.

[00:19:33] Texas has not done so yet.

[00:19:35] What do you foresee for the next legislative session, which is in January?

[00:19:39] I feel like it's going to pass, and it's going to pass well.

[00:19:43] Even our school districts have realized that if that was a battle, they probably shouldn't have gotten into.

[00:19:47] At least my local school districts have.

[00:19:49] And the truth is that if you were told as you were heading off to college that you could only go to college in your own zip code where you lived, what kind of choices would you have?

[00:20:01] And yet that's what we're telling families, especially low-income families, that your zip code is good enough for you.

[00:20:07] And so I'm really excited about the opportunity to let all families have that opportunity, not just the families that can afford to.

[00:20:14] All right, this is going to have to be a quick answer, but our electrical grid here in Texas, I know that's one of your key issues.

[00:20:22] We rely on 30% is our renewables.

[00:20:28] Yet renewables, they're not always available.

[00:20:31] It's depending on the weather.

[00:20:32] I like to call them weather-reliant or weather-dependent energy sources.

[00:20:37] They're not.

[00:20:37] If the wind's not blowing and the sun's not shining, you lose that opportunity to have that on the grid unless they have enormous amounts of storage, which they do not.

[00:20:47] So that's too much.

[00:20:48] It's too much.

[00:20:49] And we in Texas have really stepped up to help power plants get in place that are not weather-dependent.

[00:20:57] And so we've already seen a great deal of movement in that direction.

[00:21:03] We had a good summer.

[00:21:04] We didn't have blackouts this year.

[00:21:06] And that's because we have brought on so much energy that is not weather-dependent, and I'm really proud of that.

[00:21:11] And, of course, Texas has got its own kind of electrical system, and the rest of the country has to depend on sometimes the federal government to make their policy.

[00:21:21] It is way easier to build a gas plant in Texas than anywhere else in the United States.

[00:21:25] Candy Noble, thank you so much for coming in to talk to me and for what you do.

[00:21:31] It almost seems like we live in a different world from many people in positions of authority.

[00:21:36] They say men can be women and women men.

[00:21:40] People are prosecuted differently or not at all depending on their politics.

[00:21:45] Criminals are more valued and rewarded than law-abiding citizens.

[00:21:50] It's so overwhelming, so demoralizing.

[00:21:53] You feel like giving up, but we can't.

[00:21:56] We shouldn't.

[00:21:57] We must not.

[00:21:58] As Winston Churchill said to Britain in the darkest days of World War II,

[00:22:03] Never give in.

[00:22:04] Never give in.

[00:22:05] Never, never, never.

[00:22:07] Never yield to force.

[00:22:09] Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.

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[00:23:10] And now, here again is Penna Dexter.

[00:23:14] Welcome back to Point of View.

[00:23:16] My thanks to Candy Noble for coming in and talking about election integrity and other issues here in the state of Texas.

[00:23:23] And Texas can be an example on certain things like shoring up their polling places and just a whole election process.

[00:23:34] But we still have our problems.

[00:23:36] I mean, she mentioned Harris County, which is about one-fifth of all the electorate in the state.

[00:23:42] They're better now.

[00:23:43] But they've had their own problems with just the way the elections are conducted.

[00:23:50] But I wanted to go to the national level here.

[00:23:53] I've posted at Point of View an article out of National Review.

[00:23:56] Thousands of noncitizens removed from voter rolls.

[00:23:59] Dozens of lawmakers want answers from Garland, the Attorney General Merrick Garland.

[00:24:04] And it says dozens of lawmakers in the House and Senate are calling for more information from the Justice Department about efforts to stop noncitizen voting in federal elections.

[00:24:14] They say this is a serious threat to election integrity, you think.

[00:24:19] And they're not – the Justice Department is not responding to them.

[00:24:23] So I would just say to these legislators, keep pushing.

[00:24:28] We don't have – it's only 28 days before the election.

[00:24:30] And, of course, there's early voting in most states.

[00:24:34] So they need to make sure that illegals do not vote.

[00:24:40] And, you know, that a lot of people – a lot of us suspect that some of the immigration laxity is in order to get more voters on the left.

[00:24:50] So let's just hope and pray that this problem at least gets partially solved.

[00:24:59] Let's go to the phones.

[00:25:00] We've got a caller who loved the interview with – about the scripture hymnal from Randall Goodgame.

[00:25:11] And, you know, it really is exciting.

[00:25:13] But I want to go now to Mike in the state of Maine.

[00:25:17] Hi, Mike.

[00:25:18] Thanks for calling in.

[00:25:19] Appreciate your calling.

[00:25:20] Yes, hello.

[00:25:21] Yeah, yeah, thank you.

[00:25:22] Thanks for taking my call.

[00:25:23] Good afternoon.

[00:25:24] Well, basically, in a nutshell, I was able to listen to the last 10 to 15 minutes with Randall.

[00:25:30] And, yeah, I could relate a lot to music and scripture.

[00:25:36] Growing up Catholic, I sang in the choir.

[00:25:39] And, of course, we memorized a lot of Old Testament, New Testament chapter and verses in music.

[00:25:46] And then moving from Catholic Church to become Protestant.

[00:25:52] I've still continued to listen to music and put it into – I mean, I listen to music and put music with it.

[00:26:00] Yes.

[00:26:01] I play the bass.

[00:26:03] There's a lot of bass player jokes, but I play the bass.

[00:26:08] And I guess that's what's wrong with me.

[00:26:10] Do you still perform in church?

[00:26:15] We had – I was in a church for five years, and I was one of the bass players in a rotation.

[00:26:21] Mm-hmm.

[00:26:21] And we recently left that church and started to go to an OPC church in Maine, Orthodox Presbyterian church.

[00:26:33] So the music that we played at the other church was a lot of hill song, a lot of elevation.

[00:26:41] I can't remember some of the other names.

[00:26:43] But being a bass player, I learned a lot of songs, other people's bass lines.

[00:26:50] And when I would play something like Elevation or Hill Song, I would never change the bass line, but I would sharpen it by drawing in other bass players' techniques.

[00:27:05] If you understand that.

[00:27:06] Do you sing, too?

[00:27:07] Do you sing?

[00:27:09] I don't consider myself to be a singer or a lead singer, but if I have to sing, I can play bass and sing at the same time.

[00:27:18] Okay, and you help lead worship.

[00:27:20] So in your church, there's not that opportunity to do that?

[00:27:24] Not at the OPC church, Orthodox Presbyterian church.

[00:27:29] It's mostly 100% of the time it's a piano player.

[00:27:35] Yeah.

[00:27:35] Okay, well –

[00:27:36] Much different songs.

[00:27:37] Yes, it's wonderful.

[00:27:39] The gift that you have for music can be used to bless others, and it sounds like you've been doing that in your life, and that's great.

[00:27:47] And I appreciate your call.

[00:27:50] Yeah, yeah.

[00:27:50] Thank you very much.

[00:27:51] And it's very helpful for witnessing, too.

[00:27:53] Even though you might not remember the chapter and verse, you remember the chapter.

[00:27:56] You remember the words.

[00:27:58] I really have –

[00:27:59] You remember the words.

[00:27:59] Memorizing is just hard work, and singing is more fun.

[00:28:03] I think that's one of the reasons why we can remember, because it's more fun to sing.

[00:28:08] Yes, yes.

[00:28:10] Okay.

[00:28:10] Okay, thank you very much for your call.

[00:28:12] We appreciate it.

[00:28:13] Thank you.

[00:28:14] You're welcome.

[00:28:14] Thank you.

[00:28:15] As I mentioned at the top of the program, we weren't able to acknowledge the one-year anniversary of October 7th, 2023.

[00:28:25] It's sort of an infamous date now.

[00:28:27] The anniversary of Hamas' horrific attack on Israel and in Gaza, and coming out of Gaza to Israel.

[00:28:37] And the massacre of 1,200 people, 251 hostages taken.

[00:28:43] Some have been killed since.

[00:28:45] Some are still there.

[00:28:47] And some have been released.

[00:28:48] But it was the worst attack on Israel, on the Jews, since the Holocaust.

[00:28:55] And the enemies celebrated yesterday, on October 7th, the enemies of Israel celebrated with rocket attacks.

[00:29:04] And Iran, this last week, launched 200 ballistic missiles at Israel.

[00:29:11] They were mostly shot down or missed their targets.

[00:29:15] But, you know, you can't rely on the Iron Dome all the time.

[00:29:18] So we, Israel, just as in a, it's got a sort of a sad, hard, difficult future.

[00:29:29] Their leadership's responsibility to protect the people is being tested.

[00:29:34] And so we've seen yesterday, not only did we see some rocket attacks yesterday, on October 7th,

[00:29:43] we also saw anti-Israel protests at Columbia and other schools.

[00:29:49] So, you know, one year ago, Israel had experienced a two-decade era of relative peace.

[00:29:56] And certainly much success in Israel.

[00:30:01] Companies being formed there, growing, prosperity in some places.

[00:30:07] And all of that is now being put at risk by this.

[00:30:10] Because really, in order for Israel to feel secure with all the countries around it,

[00:30:16] with Hezbollah in the north, with Hamas down in Gaza,

[00:30:20] and just this freedom they feel to shoot rockets into Israel,

[00:30:26] it puts Israel on a defensive footing, more of a defensive footing than it's been on.

[00:30:32] And it also doesn't get, maybe it gets encouragement from Western countries like the U.S.

[00:30:38] And it gets weapons and things that they need militarily.

[00:30:44] But it's not getting it at the rate that it's really needed or necessarily being as effective as it could be.

[00:30:52] So, you know, the U.S. government could do more.

[00:30:57] And right now, the U.S. government is being criticized on these college campuses

[00:31:01] for anything that it's doing to help Israel defend itself.

[00:31:05] So this is a rough time for Israel.

[00:31:07] And I did notice in reading about this today that Israel actually has been pretty frugal,

[00:31:15] not wasting money over the last years and decades.

[00:31:19] And so there's money there.

[00:31:21] If Israel has to be on a war footing for a long time to come, there's actually money to do that.

[00:31:28] It's just a matter of the fact that if you're on a war footing,

[00:31:32] the lives of your citizens are, you know, worse because they have to live in a country that's at war with the countries around it.

[00:31:40] So real progress toward the Palestinian state has actually been wiped out.

[00:31:47] Some people want a Palestinian state, but they don't want Israel to be a state next to the Palestinian state.

[00:31:55] They don't want Israel to exist at all.

[00:31:57] They just want the Palestinian state.

[00:31:59] But to have the two states next to each other, it doesn't look very likely since we've got so much now violence going on.

[00:32:08] Is perpetual war the price of a Jewish state?

[00:32:11] I guess that's the question.

[00:32:13] And that's what the leadership now is asking.

[00:32:16] So, you know, we in Israel, I guess we've got to pray, number one, for peace.

[00:32:22] But it seems less and less likely that there'll be peace for a while until some lessons are learned by these countries that surround Israel.

[00:32:32] The support for Hamas in the West, especially on college campuses, is just unbelievably disappointing.

[00:32:38] And candidate Harris, running for president, says that Israel has the right to defend itself.

[00:32:45] But she also chastises Israel for its response in Gaza, especially the civilian casualties that are taking place,

[00:32:54] ignoring the fact, of course, that these terrorists are hiding among children and hiding in places where civilians are.

[00:33:05] So it's impossible for Israel to do what it needs to do without civilian casualties.

[00:33:10] Israel has shown more political resolve and military strength than its enemies anticipated.

[00:33:17] And yet the U.S. has been critical at times.

[00:33:22] I don't know what will happen under another administration.

[00:33:25] I think that perhaps Israel will get more support and help if the Biden administration is no more.

[00:33:32] We'll see. We will see.

[00:33:34] If you want to weigh in on October 7th, we'd love to hear from you.

[00:33:40] 800-351-1212. We'll be back.

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[00:34:02] We've opened up the lines here on Point of View.

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[00:34:08] 800-351-1212 on any of the issues that we've discussed today.

[00:34:13] Singing scripture, scriptural hymnal that's coming out that's very exciting.

[00:34:19] Or medical schools, actually physician's assistant schools, being at a Christian college.

[00:34:26] And should you experience persecution from the medical community for training physicians' assistants to also exhibit the compassion that their faith compels?

[00:34:41] And, you know, what can we do about the opposition to these types of schools, especially the one at Cedarville, which is the one we discussed today?

[00:34:49] And then we've been talking about voter integrity.

[00:34:51] So if you've got calls on those issues, 800-351-1212.

[00:34:55] We've also memorialized what happened one year ago yesterday in Israel.

[00:35:02] And, you know, what's the future now for Israel?

[00:35:07] Is it going to be more of a defensive posture?

[00:35:10] I think it is.

[00:35:11] But I also posted an article out of the Wall Street Journal, the truth about Amber Thurman's death.

[00:35:18] And, you know, what's happened is the Democrats, the left, has been making claims about stances coming from the other party on abortion that are, according to the Wall Street Journal, flat out false.

[00:35:34] One of those stances is the idea that's brought up in the debate of the vice presidential candidates, that there's a registry of pregnancies and that the government somehow will be able to know whether you're pregnant or not and what you're doing about that pregnancy.

[00:35:50] And did you have an abortion?

[00:35:51] And we're going to punish you for it.

[00:35:53] None of that is true.

[00:35:54] None of that is true.

[00:35:56] And also, with that, there's been talk about a plan to monitor all pregnancies to enforce abortion bans, allowing state governments to track women to prosecute them if they get an abortion.

[00:36:12] All of this has been brought up by the pro-abortion left, and none of it is happening.

[00:36:19] Anybody, a woman would not be prosecuted with any of these laws as far as I know, these state laws.

[00:36:24] I think it has to do with the doctors.

[00:36:27] In states where abortion is illegal or where you have a heartbeat law that's six weeks pregnancy that you don't allow an abortion after that time period,

[00:36:39] these are all restrictions on the medical community, and women are not going to be sent to jail for having an abortion,

[00:36:46] but we certainly want to discourage them from having abortions.

[00:36:49] Also, one of the other sort of misnomers that's being touted by the pro-abortion left is that there's no exception in any of these laws for rape,

[00:36:58] and in some cases incest, and they sometimes try to say you can't get emergency medical care if it involves abortion in these states.

[00:37:08] And those things are not true.

[00:37:10] Certain people want to ban abortions who haven't said that they do want to ban abortions.

[00:37:17] In other words, certain candidates like Trump are being accused of wanting to ban all abortions when they've never even said that.

[00:37:27] It would be great to ban all abortions.

[00:37:29] It would be great if we had an abortion-free country, but that's not where we are.

[00:37:33] And we actually have one candidate that says the state should control this.

[00:37:39] Another candidate says that a federal law should be passed that allows abortion at any time during the pregnancy.

[00:37:45] So those are some of the misnomers.

[00:37:47] And I did want to point you to an article that I posted at pointofview.net out of the Wall Street Journal.

[00:37:53] This is about Amber Thurman.

[00:37:54] And it just goes back to the debate between Tim Walz, who's a vice presidential candidate, and J.D. Vance.

[00:38:06] Tim Walz dodged a question about Minnesota's abortion statute at the debate a couple of weeks ago

[00:38:13] by repeating a story about Georgia's restrictive abortion policy.

[00:38:18] In Minnesota, it's very, very loose and got looser under Tim Walz.

[00:38:23] In Georgia, I think it's a heartbeat law that they have six weeks.

[00:38:28] Amber Thurman was 28 years old.

[00:38:30] She lived in Atlanta.

[00:38:33] She had to travel a long distance to get to North Carolina to try and get an abortion.

[00:38:38] They call it CARE, an abortion, because Georgia prohibits abortion after six weeks.

[00:38:44] Amber Thurman died in that journey back and forth, Mr. Walz said.

[00:38:48] Yes, she did die.

[00:38:49] He didn't say anything about the fact that she took the – she was pregnant with twins, I believe,

[00:38:56] and she took the abortion pill.

[00:38:59] So she made an appointment with the North Carolina Clinic for a D&C,

[00:39:04] but she ended up, after driving there, being given mifepristone and misoprostol,

[00:39:11] and she took the first pill.

[00:39:13] It's a two-pill regimen.

[00:39:14] She took the first one, and then she insisted herself, instead of staying there and being watched,

[00:39:20] since she had twins in her womb, she might have been at higher risk.

[00:39:25] But she insisted on driving home before any symptoms started.

[00:39:28] And, of course, she started having contractions, and all these things started happening.

[00:39:31] She wanted to get home.

[00:39:33] After – days later, after vomiting and passing out at home,

[00:39:37] she was taken to a suburban Atlanta hospital where she said she had a tender abdomen,

[00:39:43] and the doctors found that she had possible tissue in her uterus.

[00:39:48] She needed a D&C at that point.

[00:39:50] But according to some of the pro-abortion observers there,

[00:39:56] the state had criminalized the procedure of having a D&C with few exceptions.

[00:40:01] And so she didn't get the D&C.

[00:40:06] And I don't know if it was because she was afraid to try to get a D&C

[00:40:11] or if doctors were thinking that it might be illegal to do a D&C,

[00:40:15] but in no state is it illegal to try to save a woman's life

[00:40:19] or to intervene in a medical emergency by doing a D&C,

[00:40:25] which, you know, does take the life of the baby.

[00:40:27] But at that point, it's because it's medically necessary.

[00:40:30] She didn't get the D&C.

[00:40:32] Instead, physicians actually – they did operate, but it was 20 hours after her admission.

[00:40:38] They waited.

[00:40:39] And they diagnosed her with acute severe sepsis, and she died.

[00:40:44] She just waited too long.

[00:40:47] So the observer, the person that wrote the story about it, said,

[00:40:51] it is not clear from the records available why doctors wanted to provide a D&C to Thurman,

[00:40:59] but she did need one at that point.

[00:41:02] And Mr. Walsh obviously didn't read that far,

[00:41:05] and the article's title is meant to give the opposite impression.

[00:41:08] Abortion bans have delayed emergency medical care.

[00:41:14] They're trying to give the impression that the abortion bans in states like Georgia,

[00:41:19] like Texas, and others are depriving women of legitimate emergency medical care.

[00:41:27] And it's just simply not the truth.

[00:41:29] If some doctors want to treat it that way, they're not doing their patients any favors.

[00:41:34] Kamala Harris has also cited this case of Thurman to support her claim

[00:41:40] that the Trump abortion ban means doctors have to wait until the patient is at death's door

[00:41:44] before they take action.

[00:41:47] And so just wanted to put this article up there so that you can use it

[00:41:53] if you ever have a discussion with anybody about these issues.

[00:42:00] States need to retain the right to have their abortion limitations if they want to have them.

[00:42:07] In some states, you can get an abortion almost all the way up to birth.

[00:42:12] And in Minnesota, actually, we don't have time to discuss that,

[00:42:16] but really it's all the way up to birth because of the loosening of the laws

[00:42:20] that were done under the governorship of Tim Walsh.

[00:42:23] So that's the case.

[00:42:24] That article's up there.

[00:42:25] We want to thank you so much for joining us today.

[00:42:29] And also to one more little piece of news on the abortion front.

[00:42:36] Apparently, J.D. Vance, the candidate for VP,

[00:42:41] has said to the media that the Trump administration would end funding to Planned Parenthood.

[00:42:46] That's very good news.

[00:42:47] We should not be, as a government, funding Planned Parenthood

[00:42:50] because the great preponderance of the money that they spend is spent doing abortion.

[00:42:57] So, ladies and gentlemen, we hope you have a good evening.

[00:42:59] Thank you so much, Steve, for what you do to get the program going.

[00:43:02] And also you too, Megan.

[00:43:05] Thank you very much.

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