Point of View November 5, 2024 – Hour 1 : iVoter Guide

[00:00:04] Across America Live, this is Point of View, Kirby Anderson.

[00:00:20] Thank you for joining me. It is Tuesday, November 5th and just think about how many times over the last couple of months we've talked about Election Day, November 5th.

[00:00:29] Well, that is today. Now, if you're like a lot of individuals, probably more than two thirds of Americans, you've already voted.

[00:00:36] If you are part of that one third that either has not voted early but was not allowed to because that is not allowed in your particular state,

[00:00:46] then I hope that you have already voted this morning or maybe you're listening right now in your car as you go to vote.

[00:00:52] But again, the opportunity to vote is today and it ends tonight.

[00:00:58] I thought it would be good to spend a little bit of time talking with the president of iVoter Guide to kind of look back on that as well.

[00:01:05] But if you are one of those people looking for more information or you know someone who is thinking about voting but you want to put something in their hands,

[00:01:14] don't forget we do, of course, have our Election Central.

[00:01:17] And, of course, we also encourage you to get some of the material from iVoter Guide and we're going to talk about that for a little bit.

[00:01:24] Then get into some other ideas and new stories and next hour get into some other topics.

[00:01:29] We, of course, are waiting tonight what actually will take place.

[00:01:34] One would hope that after all of the counting is done, we would know by tonight or early by tomorrow before we do our Wednesday broadcast who is the president,

[00:01:45] who is in the United States Senate.

[00:01:47] And we still, of course, have some possibilities of maybe some elections go into overtime.

[00:01:51] So we'll see where that all plays out.

[00:01:54] But I thought it would be appropriate since we have so many times encouraged you to get access to some of these voter guides to talk with Debbie with now.

[00:02:03] She is the president of iVoter Guide and is an individual that got a master's degree in computer science from Princeton University who has worked quite a bit in data analysis.

[00:02:14] And then a number of years ago was tapped to actually develop what today we take for granted,

[00:02:20] a very good iVoter Guide series of resources that are available, which has now become a division of our good friends at American Family Association.

[00:02:29] Of course, she's been on American Family Radio Point of View.

[00:02:32] And Debbie, welcome back to Point of View.

[00:02:35] Glad to be here, Kirby.

[00:02:37] Tell the story.

[00:02:38] I mean, now people know of you as being part of American Family Association.

[00:02:42] But doesn't some of this go back to people like Richard Ford and a number of others that wanted to really provide a reliable voter guide to individuals?

[00:02:51] Well, and it did.

[00:02:52] It began with Richard.

[00:02:53] I describe my voter guide as a tapestry woven by God through multiple individuals.

[00:02:58] But Richard Ford was the first one, your good friend, involved very politically in Texas, ran the Family Policy Council in Texas.

[00:03:07] And God kind of convicted him one day that, you know, you know the legislators in the state legislature, but you, Richard, have never voted an intelligent ballot top to the bottom.

[00:03:15] So he started researching all the candidates on his ballot.

[00:03:19] And he knew that sometimes candidates say one thing and do something else.

[00:03:23] So he started looking at their actions and gathered and really filled a binder with information, I think a four-inch binder, information on the candidates in his own county.

[00:03:32] I don't know.

[00:03:33] You may have been a part of all of this.

[00:03:34] But he had their campaign finance data.

[00:03:37] He had, if they voted on legislation, different groups did scorecards.

[00:03:40] I think Richard at that time maybe even had done a scorecard.

[00:03:44] But he looked at who would endorse them, send them all surveys, and then filled this binder, then gathered friends around his conference table, gave them all a copy of the binder, and they graded every candidate.

[00:03:54] And they did it because most voters don't have the time or the inclination to just dig through all of that information to decide which candidates share their values, as we would hope for biblical values.

[00:04:04] But so they graded the candidates and printed it and passed it out.

[00:04:07] And that was really the concept in my voter guide to look at actions and data, not just what candidates say.

[00:04:13] And then the next thread in this tapestry that God wove was a man named Jim Snaringer, who was a retired IBM programmer in Austin, Texas, who had served on his local school board, even though his kids went to private school.

[00:04:29] And he understood the value of the Internet and that the Internet was available.

[00:04:33] And he had the idea to do a voter guide on the Internet, but he didn't know how to do a voter guide.

[00:04:38] So God caused those two paths to cross through a mutual friend, Kelly Shackelford.

[00:04:44] And Jim called Richard, shared the idea, and really Richard said, you mean this four-inch binder of paper, you can put it on the Internet?

[00:04:52] And Jim said yes.

[00:04:53] So that's really when it was born.

[00:04:55] That was way back in 2006.

[00:04:57] So Jim just started asking Richard what I look for, where do I find it?

[00:05:00] And 2008 was the first time my voter guide was available.

[00:05:03] It was just in Texas, like about five biggest counties.

[00:05:06] And they were at the top of the ticket to the bottom of the ticket.

[00:05:08] They did that for a couple of cycles as they kind of kept building and growing Jim's programming, all this pro bono.

[00:05:14] And it was after the 2010 election that they decided the rest of the nation could use some voter information.

[00:05:19] But Texas was okay.

[00:05:20] Let's help the rest of them.

[00:05:22] And our voter guide went nationwide in 2012.

[00:05:24] And really that's when we started working with American Family Association.

[00:05:28] Richard got connected with Don Wildman, who heard the whole vision of, you know, equipping Christians to protect their religious liberty, their relight to life, and giving them information to vote wisely.

[00:05:41] And Don said, make it happen.

[00:05:42] So we've been a partner of AFA ever since then.

[00:05:45] I came in at about that same time.

[00:05:47] You know, God called me out of my empty nest.

[00:05:49] I was a state-owned mom for 20 years, asking God what he wanted me to do with my empty nest, not knowing that my Bible study teaching director was the wife of Jim Snaringer.

[00:05:58] And when I said, would you be a job reference, she said, you know, Jim could use some help.

[00:06:02] I know you have a background in computer science.

[00:06:04] Are you interested?

[00:06:05] And I viewed it as a calling from God to help out with this.

[00:06:10] And have really learned the importance and the value of being a good steward of our vote by having information about the candidates on our ballot.

[00:06:17] So that's that tapestry that God has woven as a tool for the church all across America.

[00:06:23] That's just a great story.

[00:06:24] Again, our listeners would be familiar with Kelly Shackelford.

[00:06:27] We've had Richard Ford on when he was doing better.

[00:06:30] Richard and I used to do a number of Texas programs as well.

[00:06:33] I think one of the people doing the evaluation of some of the candidates was Penna Dexter.

[00:06:38] I'll have to check on that, but I think that was a possibility.

[00:06:40] I think it was Penna.

[00:06:41] Yeah.

[00:06:41] So you just have all sorts of people.

[00:06:43] And David Barton even.

[00:06:44] Yeah, David Barton.

[00:06:45] So again, a lot of the people you know were at the initial stages part of this.

[00:06:50] Now, going back for just a minute, you, of course, were putting it off from paper online.

[00:06:57] But I think if I looked up on the 2022 elections, you researched over 13,000 candidates, which just exhausts me to think about what it required and educated about almost 7 million voters.

[00:07:13] This time, I'm sure you got the numbers.

[00:07:14] And I'd love to know what those are because it, again, just is a phenomenon that has grown every single year and has actually been useful by so many millions of our listeners.

[00:07:26] Well, amen, and thank you for that.

[00:07:28] So God really used me to help grow iVoterGuide.

[00:07:31] He created it through Richard and Jim.

[00:07:32] And every cycle, we've tried to get a little bit bigger and go to a few more candidates.

[00:07:37] And actually, for many cycles, we almost doubled in size of the number of candidates we would cover, the number of states that we covered.

[00:07:44] You know, we started in Texas with just the five counties and then seven counties.

[00:07:50] And then we went nationwide but didn't go down all the way down the ballot, covered federal candidates in all 50 states and only statewide and state legislative in about a half a dozen.

[00:07:59] Next cycle was a dozen.

[00:08:01] Then it was, you know, 25.

[00:08:03] And this cycle, it is statewide candidates in 36 states and state legislative candidates in 32 states.

[00:08:10] We continue to just expand.

[00:08:12] You know, there's a lot of things on our ballot, Kirby.

[00:08:15] Yes, there are.

[00:08:15] We're learning that people need information on all of it.

[00:08:18] So in 2021, we started covering school board candidates.

[00:08:22] And we added, we just learned, you know, we saw what was going on with the CRT and Loudoun County and the whole explosion of the indoctrination of our children.

[00:08:33] So iVoterGuide steps into school board races.

[00:08:35] Yeah.

[00:08:35] And we'll come back and talk a little bit more.

[00:08:37] As a matter of fact, I might just point you to iVoterGuide.com.

[00:08:40] We'll talk more about that right after these important messages.

[00:08:58] This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson.

[00:09:02] Today is election day and two important questions might or might not be resolved tonight.

[00:09:07] The first question is who will win the election?

[00:09:09] Given our experience four years ago, the answer might not be obvious.

[00:09:13] The second question is how peaceful will be the transition of power?

[00:09:17] Again, our experience four years ago is reason to be concerned about that.

[00:09:20] In 1960, there were questions about whether John F. Kennedy won the presidency fairly.

[00:09:26] Rumors quickly spread that voting in Illinois and Texas had been manipulated.

[00:09:30] Perhaps the narrow margin of victory, 112,000 votes, indicated that the vote total should be challenged.

[00:09:36] Richard Dixon conceded the election because he said our country cannot afford the agony of a constitutional crisis.

[00:09:42] In 2000, George W. Bush led Al Gore in Florida after the first results were tallied because the vote was so close, a statewide recount was implemented.

[00:09:52] The machine count was even closer, so a legal battle developed.

[00:09:56] Those of you who are older probably remember the debate over the hanging chads.

[00:10:00] The case finally reached the Supreme Court that ruled that the hand recounts unconstitutional and essentially declared Bush the winner.

[00:10:07] Al Gore then conceded by saying, while I strongly disagree with the court's decision, I accept it.

[00:10:13] In 2016, Donald Trump won three swing states by a mere 77,000 votes.

[00:10:18] In 2020, Joe Biden won three swing states by 42,000 votes.

[00:10:23] Controversy surrounded both elections.

[00:10:25] If voting is close this time, the election results may go into overtime.

[00:10:29] Will we have a clear winner or will we have to wait days or even weeks to find out?

[00:10:33] And will there be controversy over the election?

[00:10:37] We will know that in a few hours.

[00:10:39] I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view.

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[00:11:03] Hi, once again.

[00:11:04] Debbie West now with us, and she is the president of iVoterGuide.

[00:11:07] And I might just mention, as we went to the break here, that, of course, you can go to our Election Central and click on the iVoterGuide, or simply go to iVoterGuide.com.

[00:11:16] Either way, you will see some of the things we've just mentioned.

[00:11:19] First of all, the fact that 50 states are certainly covered in terms of federal races.

[00:11:25] Thirty-six states not only cover federal, but statewide coverage.

[00:11:30] And then 32 of those states actually cover federal, statewide, and even state legislative coverage.

[00:11:36] Just an incredible work.

[00:11:38] And again, I think, Debbie, one of the things that people appreciate is not only, as we'll get into in just a minute, the breadth and the depth, but the ease of use.

[00:11:48] You just simply go there, type in your address.

[00:11:51] Now, I can't put a post office box.

[00:11:52] And then you get a personalized voter guide.

[00:11:56] And it is so helpful to individuals, because if you're making your decisions about who you're going to vote for based on one of the TV commercials or some TikTok post, that is not the way to be a well-informed individual.

[00:12:11] And I know your theme has been grounded in God, rooted in research, and yet you've also made it very easy to use, haven't you?

[00:12:20] Well, that's been the goal, because, you know, I represent Richard was not an average voter.

[00:12:25] Richard was a very informed, engaged voter.

[00:12:27] I'm just a Christian who wants to be a good steward of my vote.

[00:12:29] So I have fought for making this as easy to use as possible, because the average voter, the soccer mom, the, you know, the parent, the grandparent,

[00:12:36] they don't have the time to do all of that research, to go find a sample ballot and then research the dozens of candidates that will be on your ballot.

[00:12:43] So our goal has been to make it easy to use based on your address.

[00:12:47] We just show you the races and candidates that are on your ballot.

[00:12:50] And the other thing that makes it easy to use in my book is that we not just research candidates, but we evaluate them and put them on that gauge.

[00:12:58] You know, when Pena did it back with Richard in the beginning, I think they scored them A through F.

[00:13:03] And today we put them on a gas gauge ranging from far left to far right, between conservative and liberal, to really see where they land on a broad spectrum of issues.

[00:13:13] And a lot of voters, that's a clear enough indicator of where this candidate is going to vote if I elect them.

[00:13:18] But we have all the data there for yourself.

[00:13:20] So it's not just something telling you who to vote for.

[00:13:23] It's a tool for you to decide for yourself.

[00:13:25] Click on see candidate profile.

[00:13:27] You can see all the information we've gathered, their campaign finance or scorecards, who's endorsed them, and how they've answered the issue survey.

[00:13:34] We even have links to their website and their social media.

[00:13:36] So we really try to aggregate all that political intelligence into one place and make it easy to use for every voter across America.

[00:13:43] And again, some of the things you talk about, deeper, wider, and easier.

[00:13:46] We've already talked about easier to use.

[00:13:47] Let's go into that a little bit more.

[00:13:48] In-depth, data-driven research further down the ballot because in some respects people oftentimes know who they're going to vote for president, maybe even senate, maybe congress.

[00:13:59] It fades pretty quickly by the time you get to the state senate, the state representative.

[00:14:03] By the time you get to school board, they don't know.

[00:14:06] And so first of all, deeper but also wider.

[00:14:08] But a lot of that, as you just mentioned in passing, includes more than just the scorecards.

[00:14:14] Because we all know that sometimes individuals, when they don't want to really tell you where they stand on an issue, especially some of the judges won't, they won't fill out the scorecard.

[00:14:26] They won't give you a real honest assessment of where they stand on some of these very important cultural and social issues.

[00:14:33] So what you do is then look at things like who is paying for their campaign.

[00:14:39] If you're getting money from the ACLU or used to be the People for the American Way or Americans United for Separation of Church and State, you can come to one conclusion.

[00:14:48] If they're getting funded by Concerned Women for America or American Family Association or a variety of other groups like that, you get it out of their perspective.

[00:14:57] And then you also, of course, look at the endorsements that they receive.

[00:15:01] So even when they refuse to fill out a survey, there are so many other ways you can really get a very good handle on how this particular individual would vote or how this particular judge would rule in some of these important cases.

[00:15:17] Oh, completely.

[00:15:18] So that's why we have campaign finance data.

[00:15:20] We have the entire database from the Federal Election Commission and then every state where we cover state candidates.

[00:15:26] We have the whole database.

[00:15:27] So not only do we know who's supporting their campaign, so who's funding that campaign, but we have if that individual has ever supported another organization, so who they've given money to out of their own pocketbook.

[00:15:40] And sometimes that can be very telling.

[00:15:41] You know, is it a union?

[00:15:43] Is it a liberal group or a conservative group?

[00:15:46] And we go through and weight all of those.

[00:15:47] And we've got millions and millions of donation records.

[00:15:51] So frequently that, you know, could be one of the few data points we have, especially as you get down below state legislature and you're looking at local candidates, which, you know, we're starting to cover more.

[00:16:01] It's really looking for the needle in the haystack of where they stand.

[00:16:04] So we have, in addition to all that data, we have an army of volunteer panelists who, like Richard had around his conference table, do the deep dive on, you know, we assign them about three dozen candidates.

[00:16:15] And they're reading their Facebook, their social media, their tweets, their rumbles, their internet searching to see what they can find.

[00:16:22] Because there's, this internet is a great thing.

[00:16:25] We have to make sure it's accurate.

[00:16:26] But to give us information on those candidates.

[00:16:29] So we train them and we point them in the right direction to look for those little indicators, the gleaming things of, you know, maybe it's a candidate who went to the March for Life.

[00:16:39] And that's a good indicator that they're pro-life or maybe they went to a BLM rally or a pride parade or something like that.

[00:16:45] Those are types of things that can tell us in addition to, you know, what they've done with their pocketbook, where they might land on our gas gauge as we try to educate voters and make it easy to use as we try to predict how they're going to vote if we elect them.

[00:16:58] One of the things I want to emphasize, you mentioned it in passing, but I want to emphasize it again, the ballot measure coverage.

[00:17:06] This goes from Alaska all the way down to Wisconsin.

[00:17:10] And some of these are very significant because there are in some cases abortion or so-called reproductive freedom.

[00:17:17] There's some on cannabis and marijuana legalization, some on things like a minimum wage, school choice and the rest.

[00:17:25] And oftentimes people get into the bowling booth and they realize, oh, wait a minute.

[00:17:30] I sort of had a pretty good idea of who I was going to vote for in terms of the candidates.

[00:17:35] I didn't know this proposition was there or I didn't know where I could find some information about that as well.

[00:17:41] And so that's just another one of the features you've provided in the past through the voter guide.

[00:17:46] Amen.

[00:17:47] So we've seen what's happened with some of the ballot measures that, you know, there have been pro-abortion constitutional amendments passed in red states.

[00:17:55] And we saw the, I hate to use the term, but disinformation.

[00:18:00] So you could call it lies that have been in some of the little ads, the little TikTok videos that are not portraying the truth about what those measures would accomplish or what they would do.

[00:18:09] So our goal is to give the voters truth.

[00:18:12] We're just trying to find facts and truth about both candidates and these ballot measures.

[00:18:17] So we've gathered arguments on each side so it's balanced.

[00:18:20] You can hear what each side is saying.

[00:18:22] And we check it out.

[00:18:23] You can also look at who's funding each side because that will tell you a lot about, you know, which is a conservative or a liberal position and who's endorsed both sides.

[00:18:32] And then we take all of the argument research that we've gathered and put that into what I call a what it means.

[00:18:38] I don't know about you.

[00:18:39] I've stepped to the polling place before.

[00:18:40] Maybe I've seen a commercial ballot, a ballot measure, but then I read it on the ballot and I'm like, so what does that do?

[00:18:47] Which do I really, is a yes good or, you know, is a no good?

[00:18:50] So we do all the research.

[00:18:52] We let you know which vote is the conservative vote, which vote is a liberal vote.

[00:18:56] We summarize what it means to have a vote yes and what it means or what it will accomplish to vote no.

[00:19:02] And then we give you all the arguments and the funding.

[00:19:04] So our goal, again, is truth and educated voters.

[00:19:06] And the ballot measures have become really a tool of the left to move the needle with a lack of information.

[00:19:14] So I imagine that after today, maybe your work is over for a moment, but then it builds right back up again.

[00:19:21] So first of all, let me just mention, again, we have a link to iVoterGuide.com.

[00:19:24] We have a link to the Facebook page, the Twitter page.

[00:19:27] Even at this 11th hour, there may be some of you that would still want to have access to those resources.

[00:19:33] Those are there.

[00:19:34] But as you go there, of course, you have the VoterGuide.

[00:19:36] You have that great series on insights and articles, some of the questions that people ask,

[00:19:41] sort of the frequently asked questions, the FAQs, a take action item,

[00:19:46] and even a place where people can donate because, after all, it does take a lot of work, effort, and money

[00:19:52] to try to produce all these different VoterGuides.

[00:19:54] It does.

[00:19:56] And, you know, we are a ministry, as you know, as part of American Family Association.

[00:20:00] So we are donor-supported.

[00:20:01] So if you find iVoterGuide helpful to you, we would value any support that you could have.

[00:20:06] But we also want you to tell other people about it.

[00:20:08] And we hear from users all the time that, you know, they find it, they're like,

[00:20:13] this is fabulous, and they send it, share it with their friends and their family, and they support it.

[00:20:17] I would encourage you to sign up to get iVoterGuide's e-mail.

[00:20:20] As you said, this is not the last election.

[00:20:22] I have a suspicion that there will be some congressmen stepping down based on whichever way the presidential election goes

[00:20:29] or what, you know, the direction we take.

[00:20:31] So there will be special elections.

[00:20:33] Great opportunity to have impact for biblical values in special elections.

[00:20:37] And if you sign up for our e-mails, we'll let you know when that's happening in your area

[00:20:41] and give you that voter guide so that you can vote wisely in those as well.

[00:20:44] So we've got insights and articles.

[00:20:46] We've got tools you can share.

[00:20:47] Just lots of resources at iVoterGuide.

[00:20:49] And the work is not done.

[00:20:51] Well, Debbie, I appreciate that.

[00:20:52] And I get the e-mail, and that always helps me because sometimes you alert me to some of these different elections around the country.

[00:20:58] Even though it's a national program, we do like to talk about some of these very important elections.

[00:21:02] And so that is the case.

[00:21:04] We may have some runoffs, so it may be worth signing up for that right now.

[00:21:07] For those of you that say, well, you're talking about this too late, we have, of course, talked with Debbie many times before.

[00:21:13] We've had that link on our Election Central nevertheless.

[00:21:16] But we thought just before the election is over today, we'd like to hear one more time.

[00:21:20] Let's take a break, though.

[00:21:21] We've got a lot to cover.

[00:21:22] All that coming up right after this.

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[00:23:10] And now, here again, is Kirby Anderson.

[00:23:13] Back once again, if you'd like to join the conversation, that number is 1-800-351-1212.

[00:23:18] Have you voted?

[00:23:19] What do you think about what is going to unfold tonight?

[00:23:22] We'd love to hear from you, but even if you want to just kind of sit back,

[00:23:25] I certainly want to give you some facts and figures that might be helpful.

[00:23:28] But let me come back to the fact that if you're one of those people that voted,

[00:23:32] thank you so very much for voting and doing your constitutional and civic duty.

[00:23:36] If you have not, I hope that you will.

[00:23:39] Even for those of you that have or plan to shortly,

[00:23:43] you might also bring somebody to the polls to actually vote if they agree with you

[00:23:48] in terms of some of those values, because as you're going to see in just a minute,

[00:23:53] these are going to be, in some cases, very close elections.

[00:23:57] There are some people now suggesting maybe the presidential election won't be as close.

[00:24:01] The last two have been, so there's no reason to believe this will not also be that.

[00:24:05] But certainly, as we work our way down the ballot,

[00:24:08] and let me again encourage you to vote all the way down the ballot,

[00:24:12] it is your duty as a citizen,

[00:24:13] but also it is your blessing and privilege as a citizen.

[00:24:18] And so whether you talk about the privilege as a citizen of the United States,

[00:24:22] or I would have to say your duty as a citizen of heaven and earth as a Christian,

[00:24:27] I think you have a real responsibility.

[00:24:29] But if you get my commentary today,

[00:24:31] we talked about the fact that there are a couple of important questions

[00:24:35] that are going to serve us over the next couple of hours.

[00:24:37] One of those questions is, who will win the election?

[00:24:40] Now, given our experience from four years ago,

[00:24:44] that may not be as obvious as you would think.

[00:24:47] And in just a minute, I'll give you some examples in the past

[00:24:49] where it was very obviously not obvious

[00:24:53] because of what we had in terms of the close elections.

[00:24:57] The second, of course, is how peaceful will the transition of power be?

[00:25:01] I have heard so many people,

[00:25:03] whether here in the state of Texas

[00:25:05] or whether last week when I was in Georgia and South Carolina,

[00:25:08] expressing their real concerns.

[00:25:11] And after we saw what happened four years ago,

[00:25:13] they can see that as well.

[00:25:15] If you wonder if elections are close,

[00:25:17] just consider the fact that when we go all the way back to 1960,

[00:25:23] John F. Kennedy won the presidency.

[00:25:26] But there were some questions about some of the voter integrity

[00:25:30] that happened even back then.

[00:25:32] There were some rumors being spread

[00:25:34] about voter irregularities in Illinois and Texas.

[00:25:38] It was a fairly narrow margin of victory,

[00:25:41] although not as narrow as some of the others have been,

[00:25:44] 112,000 votes.

[00:25:46] And Richard Nixon could have challenged it,

[00:25:48] but he said,

[00:25:49] our country cannot afford the agony of a constitutional crisis.

[00:25:52] Then you come to perhaps the closest election in American history,

[00:25:56] and that was in 2000.

[00:25:58] George W. Bush led Al Gore in Florida,

[00:26:01] and whoever won Florida would be the next president.

[00:26:04] And, of course,

[00:26:05] we now know it was 500-plus votes in that case.

[00:26:09] And, of course,

[00:26:09] we had a statewide recount,

[00:26:11] and I noticed Karen even put a picture of somebody

[00:26:14] looking at the hanging chads on the commentary.

[00:26:16] So if you want to go to the commentary,

[00:26:18] you can kind of see some of that there as well.

[00:26:20] But eventually,

[00:26:22] the Supreme Court ruled that those hand counts

[00:26:26] that were done after the fact

[00:26:27] were not going to be admissible.

[00:26:29] So Al Gore conceded by saying,

[00:26:32] well, I strongly disagree with the court's decision.

[00:26:34] I accept it.

[00:26:36] Well, of course,

[00:26:37] then that brings us to 2016.

[00:26:39] Donald Trump won three swing states

[00:26:41] by a mere 77,000 votes.

[00:26:43] There were lots of questions raised at the time

[00:26:46] by Hillary Clinton and others

[00:26:48] as to whether or not he won that fairly.

[00:26:50] And then you come to 2020,

[00:26:52] where Joe Biden won three swing states

[00:26:54] by a collective number of 42,000 votes.

[00:26:58] Actually, 42,844.

[00:27:01] And, of course,

[00:27:02] there are controversies surrounding that as well.

[00:27:04] So we will see whether or not

[00:27:06] the election goes into overtime tonight

[00:27:08] in terms of the presidential election.

[00:27:11] Maybe not,

[00:27:12] but there will be some very close elections.

[00:27:14] I guarantee you

[00:27:15] 34 U.S. Senate races,

[00:27:17] 435 races for the House of Representatives,

[00:27:20] more than 30 governors races,

[00:27:21] and, of course,

[00:27:22] many races all over the country

[00:27:24] for state representatives,

[00:27:26] state senators,

[00:27:26] all the way down to, of course,

[00:27:28] city council and mayors

[00:27:30] and even school boards.

[00:27:31] And so, again,

[00:27:32] more than 30,000 races

[00:27:34] that will be decided tonight,

[00:27:36] but maybe not all.

[00:27:38] There may be some runoffs

[00:27:39] that take place there as well.

[00:27:41] So we'll see how that plays out.

[00:27:42] My first article is one

[00:27:44] that probably sounds a little bit odd

[00:27:46] until you really dig into it.

[00:27:49] Could California elect Donald Trump?

[00:27:52] Now, what do the editors

[00:27:54] of the Wall Street Journal mean by that?

[00:27:57] Because they're saying

[00:27:58] this is not where they're predicting

[00:28:00] that Donald Trump would win

[00:28:02] California, New York, or Illinois.

[00:28:04] What they're talking about

[00:28:06] is something that I've written about before,

[00:28:08] and one of the booklets

[00:28:09] I've made available to you

[00:28:10] is what's called

[00:28:11] America Realignment.

[00:28:13] And we're starting to see

[00:28:15] a lot of realignment.

[00:28:16] So much of that is happening.

[00:28:18] I'm thinking in 2025,

[00:28:19] I'm going to produce another booklet

[00:28:21] on the realignment,

[00:28:23] because we're seeing

[00:28:23] political realignment.

[00:28:25] Just look at the people

[00:28:26] that have been supporting

[00:28:27] Kamala Harris right now,

[00:28:28] the people supporting Donald Trump.

[00:28:30] Obviously, a realignment,

[00:28:32] which we talked about yesterday

[00:28:33] with Gary Bauer.

[00:28:34] But this one is different.

[00:28:36] It's a demographic realignment,

[00:28:38] because if you had the census,

[00:28:41] which we've had,

[00:28:43] then it turns out

[00:28:44] that the electoral college

[00:28:45] has changed.

[00:28:46] California, Illinois, Michigan,

[00:28:49] New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania,

[00:28:52] and West Virginia

[00:28:52] each lost one vote

[00:28:54] in the electoral college.

[00:28:56] Meanwhile, Texas picked up two.

[00:28:58] Colorado, Florida, Montana,

[00:29:00] North Carolina, and Oregon

[00:29:02] picked up one.

[00:29:03] More to the point,

[00:29:05] if you start looking

[00:29:06] at the swing states,

[00:29:07] you see something very different,

[00:29:09] because it is quite possible

[00:29:12] that Donald Trump

[00:29:13] could reach the requisite

[00:29:15] 270 electoral votes

[00:29:17] by winning Georgia,

[00:29:18] Pennsylvania,

[00:29:20] and North Carolina.

[00:29:21] However, if he'd won

[00:29:22] those three states in 2020,

[00:29:25] that would have only given him

[00:29:27] 268 electoral votes.

[00:29:29] So you can see

[00:29:30] how that made a difference.

[00:29:32] Or let's take another one.

[00:29:34] He could win Arizona,

[00:29:35] North Carolina,

[00:29:36] Michigan, and Wisconsin.

[00:29:37] That would give him

[00:29:40] 272 electoral votes,

[00:29:41] which would be enough.

[00:29:42] But in 2020,

[00:29:44] winning those four states

[00:29:45] would have only given him

[00:29:47] 269.

[00:29:48] He also could get 272

[00:29:50] by winning Arizona,

[00:29:51] North Carolina,

[00:29:52] Georgia, and Wisconsin.

[00:29:54] And again,

[00:29:55] those would have actually

[00:29:56] made him one vote short,

[00:29:58] 269,

[00:29:59] in 2020.

[00:30:01] The point I'm making is

[00:30:02] is that people move.

[00:30:04] You can see that

[00:30:05] by looking at where

[00:30:07] U-Haul trailers

[00:30:08] are being rented

[00:30:09] and how moving vans

[00:30:11] are moving from

[00:30:11] one state to the other.

[00:30:13] People don't stay

[00:30:14] in one place anymore.

[00:30:15] Sounds like a

[00:30:17] Carole King album,

[00:30:18] but nevertheless.

[00:30:19] But they do move around

[00:30:20] a little bit.

[00:30:21] And so, again,

[00:30:22] the editors of

[00:30:23] the Wall Street Journal

[00:30:24] put it this way.

[00:30:25] If Kamala Harris

[00:30:26] loses in any of the

[00:30:28] scenarios they just mentioned,

[00:30:30] they say that Democrats

[00:30:32] can only blame

[00:30:32] progressives in Sacramento,

[00:30:34] California,

[00:30:35] Albany, New York,

[00:30:36] and Springfield, Illinois,

[00:30:37] for driving an exodus

[00:30:39] to the red states

[00:30:40] with their ever higher

[00:30:42] taxes and cost of living.

[00:30:44] Millions of Americans

[00:30:45] have voted with

[00:30:46] their pocketbook

[00:30:47] as Democrats

[00:30:48] who run one-party states

[00:30:50] have entrenched

[00:30:51] their power

[00:30:51] and made it hard

[00:30:52] to correct policy.

[00:30:53] You can't accuse

[00:30:55] the Wall Street Journal

[00:30:56] of being nuanced

[00:30:58] or even timid

[00:31:00] about some of their comments.

[00:31:01] But here,

[00:31:02] migration, they say,

[00:31:04] from progressive states

[00:31:05] to swing states

[00:31:06] since the 2020 election

[00:31:09] probably could influence

[00:31:11] the outcome.

[00:31:12] About 700,000 Americans

[00:31:14] on net have moved

[00:31:16] to Arizona,

[00:31:17] Nevada,

[00:31:19] Georgia,

[00:31:20] North Carolina,

[00:31:21] Pennsylvania,

[00:31:22] Michigan,

[00:31:23] and Wisconsin

[00:31:24] from other states.

[00:31:25] And so,

[00:31:26] as a result,

[00:31:27] this, I think,

[00:31:28] is very significant

[00:31:30] in terms of

[00:31:31] the electoral vote.

[00:31:32] It also changes

[00:31:33] the color of some

[00:31:34] of those states.

[00:31:35] There was a time,

[00:31:36] I just mentioned

[00:31:37] a few minutes ago

[00:31:37] about Florida.

[00:31:38] Florida was kind of

[00:31:40] a purple state,

[00:31:40] not necessarily red,

[00:31:42] not necessarily blue,

[00:31:43] but the flight,

[00:31:44] they say,

[00:31:45] from these blue states

[00:31:47] to Florida

[00:31:47] has now turned

[00:31:49] Florida into a

[00:31:50] solid red state.

[00:31:52] And so,

[00:31:53] that is the case.

[00:31:54] Florida,

[00:31:54] they say,

[00:31:55] is now home

[00:31:55] to 1.6 million

[00:31:58] native New Yorkers,

[00:32:00] three times the number

[00:32:01] of Puerto Ricans.

[00:32:03] And so,

[00:32:04] again,

[00:32:04] talking about

[00:32:05] the other people

[00:32:06] from New York

[00:32:06] that have moved

[00:32:07] not only from

[00:32:08] New York to Florida,

[00:32:09] but from New York

[00:32:10] to North Carolina.

[00:32:11] That would be

[00:32:12] about 60,000.

[00:32:13] From New York

[00:32:14] to Georgia,

[00:32:14] that would be

[00:32:15] another than 28,000.

[00:32:16] Which leads me

[00:32:17] to one last comment

[00:32:19] before we take a break,

[00:32:20] and that is,

[00:32:21] the argument

[00:32:21] that's sometimes made,

[00:32:23] yes,

[00:32:23] but if they come

[00:32:24] from these blue states,

[00:32:25] they're going to bring

[00:32:26] their progressive values

[00:32:27] into the state.

[00:32:29] There is some evidence

[00:32:30] of that,

[00:32:31] but most goes

[00:32:32] the other way.

[00:32:32] And I give full credit

[00:32:34] to Senator Ted Cruz

[00:32:36] for pointing that out

[00:32:37] a number of years ago

[00:32:38] in Texas,

[00:32:39] saying most of the individuals

[00:32:41] that have been moving

[00:32:42] are moving

[00:32:43] because they are upset

[00:32:45] about the policies

[00:32:46] of high taxes

[00:32:46] and some of the policies.

[00:32:49] So,

[00:32:49] yes,

[00:32:50] there is the possibility

[00:32:51] that you have heard

[00:32:53] people say,

[00:32:54] don't California

[00:32:55] my state

[00:32:56] or don't New York

[00:32:57] my state.

[00:32:58] Some of that

[00:32:59] is true,

[00:33:00] but the majority

[00:33:01] seems to be individuals

[00:33:03] that are already

[00:33:04] going to those states

[00:33:05] because they're

[00:33:06] like-minded,

[00:33:07] and as a result,

[00:33:08] that is the case.

[00:33:09] But nevertheless,

[00:33:11] I wanted you to read

[00:33:11] this one piece.

[00:33:13] Could California

[00:33:14] or Illinois

[00:33:15] or New York,

[00:33:16] if you want to put

[00:33:17] the three together,

[00:33:18] elect Donald Trump

[00:33:20] and as I just

[00:33:21] pointed out,

[00:33:21] if you look at

[00:33:22] some of these

[00:33:23] swing states,

[00:33:24] it is much easier

[00:33:26] this time

[00:33:26] for Donald Trump

[00:33:27] to reach 270

[00:33:29] electoral votes

[00:33:30] than it was

[00:33:31] just four years ago

[00:33:32] or certainly

[00:33:33] eight years ago.

[00:33:34] Just a little bit

[00:33:35] of fact

[00:33:36] that probably will end up

[00:33:37] in one of my booklets,

[00:33:38] but let's take a break.

[00:33:39] We'll come back

[00:33:39] with more

[00:33:40] right after this.

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[00:34:01] Back once again,

[00:34:02] of course,

[00:34:02] this is Election Day

[00:34:03] and I thought

[00:34:03] I would also

[00:34:04] not only focus on,

[00:34:05] of course,

[00:34:06] the presidential election,

[00:34:07] I just talked a little bit

[00:34:08] about that,

[00:34:09] whether or not

[00:34:10] there would be

[00:34:11] enough electoral votes

[00:34:13] for one candidate

[00:34:14] to get the requisite

[00:34:15] number of 270

[00:34:16] electoral votes.

[00:34:17] I think that is

[00:34:18] a possibility,

[00:34:19] but also pointing out

[00:34:20] the fact that

[00:34:21] in some respects

[00:34:22] the movement,

[00:34:24] the demographic shift,

[00:34:25] the migration,

[00:34:26] whatever phrase

[00:34:27] or word you want

[00:34:28] to use,

[00:34:29] has actually been

[00:34:30] a little bit more

[00:34:31] favorable to,

[00:34:32] say,

[00:34:33] a Donald Trump

[00:34:34] than to a Kamala Harris,

[00:34:35] which is interesting.

[00:34:37] Most people haven't

[00:34:38] been talking about that.

[00:34:39] I just, of course,

[00:34:40] focused on that

[00:34:41] and this article,

[00:34:42] Could California Elect

[00:34:43] Donald Trump,

[00:34:44] is one you might

[00:34:45] want to read.

[00:34:46] I'm going to come back

[00:34:47] to it again

[00:34:47] in a booklet

[00:34:48] I might write

[00:34:48] in 2025

[00:34:50] on just all

[00:34:51] the other kind

[00:34:52] of political,

[00:34:54] economic,

[00:34:55] and even,

[00:34:55] if you will,

[00:34:57] cultural and demographic

[00:34:58] realignment

[00:34:59] that is taking place

[00:35:00] in America.

[00:35:01] Things don't always

[00:35:02] stay the same.

[00:35:04] One of the biggest

[00:35:05] mistakes you can make

[00:35:06] about trying

[00:35:07] to predict the future

[00:35:09] is to assume

[00:35:10] the future

[00:35:10] will be like the past.

[00:35:12] I think anybody

[00:35:12] listening to that

[00:35:13] knows that's not the case.

[00:35:15] My new book

[00:35:16] that is out there

[00:35:17] about discerning

[00:35:17] the future

[00:35:18] really helps you

[00:35:19] kind of look at

[00:35:20] what are going

[00:35:20] to be some

[00:35:21] of the biggest

[00:35:22] issues here

[00:35:23] in the next

[00:35:24] couple of years.

[00:35:24] I know we have

[00:35:25] a January issue

[00:35:27] that's going

[00:35:27] to be coming out

[00:35:28] once we,

[00:35:28] of course,

[00:35:29] know who's elected

[00:35:30] to really kind

[00:35:30] of set the agenda

[00:35:31] if partial,

[00:35:32] what can be

[00:35:33] and should be

[00:35:34] accomplished

[00:35:34] in 2025.

[00:35:36] But let's not

[00:35:37] get ahead of ourselves.

[00:35:38] We not only

[00:35:39] have a presidential election,

[00:35:40] we have a senatorial election.

[00:35:42] And this is another place

[00:35:44] where the editors

[00:35:45] of the Wall Street Journal

[00:35:47] said the stakes

[00:35:48] could not be higher

[00:35:49] for the United States

[00:35:51] Senate.

[00:35:52] Every time I get

[00:35:53] one of these articles

[00:35:54] that raises some

[00:35:55] of the concerns

[00:35:56] that you've heard

[00:35:57] Kelly Shackelford raise,

[00:35:59] I usually copy it,

[00:36:01] send him an email

[00:36:02] and say,

[00:36:02] you'd think that

[00:36:03] Kelly Shackelford

[00:36:04] wrote this one.

[00:36:05] I know Kelly did not,

[00:36:06] but some of the editors

[00:36:07] recognize that

[00:36:08] that is the case.

[00:36:10] Let's now consider

[00:36:11] the fact that Kamala Harris

[00:36:12] could be the next

[00:36:13] president of the United States.

[00:36:14] And with that,

[00:36:15] she might be able

[00:36:16] to keep a Senate majority

[00:36:18] of Democrats.

[00:36:19] What might that mean?

[00:36:21] Well, the editors

[00:36:22] of the Wall Street Journal

[00:36:23] take you down this road

[00:36:25] for a few minutes

[00:36:26] to understand

[00:36:27] that this could be

[00:36:28] very significant.

[00:36:29] Again,

[00:36:30] they tend not

[00:36:30] to mince words.

[00:36:32] They tend not to use

[00:36:33] so much nuance.

[00:36:34] They really let you know

[00:36:36] what they're thinking.

[00:36:37] And they say,

[00:36:38] if the vice president,

[00:36:39] that is Kamala Harris,

[00:36:39] wins,

[00:36:40] while Democrats

[00:36:41] keep a Senate majority,

[00:36:42] the House stands a good chance

[00:36:44] of going her way as well.

[00:36:45] Meaning,

[00:36:46] what would it be like

[00:36:47] if you have,

[00:36:48] of course,

[00:36:48] a Democratic-controlled House,

[00:36:50] Democratic-controlled Senate,

[00:36:51] and Kamala Harris

[00:36:52] in the White House,

[00:36:53] and they said

[00:36:54] this would begin

[00:36:55] what they call

[00:36:55] the progressive deluge,

[00:36:57] or the flood

[00:36:58] that comes there.

[00:36:59] First of all,

[00:37:00] Kamala Harris

[00:37:01] has endorsed

[00:37:02] overriding

[00:37:03] the Senate's

[00:37:04] 60-vote filibuster rule

[00:37:06] in order to enact

[00:37:07] a national abortion law,

[00:37:09] which they say

[00:37:10] in practice

[00:37:12] Roe versus Wade.

[00:37:13] I think they're accurate

[00:37:14] in what they say there.

[00:37:15] Matter of fact,

[00:37:16] Democrats in 2022

[00:37:17] tried to bypass

[00:37:18] the filibuster

[00:37:19] to nationalize

[00:37:20] election rules,

[00:37:21] but they were really

[00:37:22] kept from doing that

[00:37:23] because you had

[00:37:24] two senators,

[00:37:25] that would be

[00:37:25] Senator Joe Manchin

[00:37:27] from West Virginia,

[00:37:28] and Senator Kyrsten Sinema

[00:37:29] from Arizona

[00:37:32] that balked at that.

[00:37:33] And so as a result,

[00:37:35] that did not happen,

[00:37:36] but they're,

[00:37:37] of course,

[00:37:37] retiring from Congress,

[00:37:39] and for sure,

[00:37:40] I think we can say

[00:37:41] that a Republican

[00:37:42] will replace

[00:37:43] Joe Manchin,

[00:37:45] probably a Democrat,

[00:37:47] will replace

[00:37:48] Senator Sinema,

[00:37:49] but we'll see

[00:37:49] where that goes,

[00:37:50] and we'll see

[00:37:51] how Arizona unfolds

[00:37:52] in the next couple

[00:37:53] of hours,

[00:37:54] and we'll be able

[00:37:55] to say that

[00:37:55] with a little more

[00:37:56] certainty,

[00:37:57] but that's

[00:37:57] where we are.

[00:37:59] But the first thing

[00:38:00] would be

[00:38:00] to get rid

[00:38:01] of the filibuster

[00:38:02] in the United States

[00:38:03] Senate,

[00:38:04] which requires

[00:38:05] 60 votes,

[00:38:06] and thus requires

[00:38:07] some kind of

[00:38:08] bipartisanship.

[00:38:09] Of course,

[00:38:10] the argument

[00:38:11] is, well,

[00:38:12] that they also

[00:38:13] want to use

[00:38:14] the filibuster

[00:38:14] to address

[00:38:16] a lot of other

[00:38:17] issues,

[00:38:17] not just so-called

[00:38:18] what they call

[00:38:19] reproductive rights,

[00:38:20] but voting rights

[00:38:22] and dark money,

[00:38:24] Supreme Court reform.

[00:38:25] They want to pack

[00:38:26] the Supreme Court.

[00:38:27] You've heard that before.

[00:38:28] All sorts of things.

[00:38:29] But let's go back

[00:38:30] to the article here

[00:38:31] by the editors

[00:38:32] of the Wall Street Journal

[00:38:34] because then

[00:38:35] they go on to say,

[00:38:36] well, then what next?

[00:38:37] Well,

[00:38:38] another one would be

[00:38:39] to make the District

[00:38:40] of Columbia

[00:38:41] and Puerto Rico

[00:38:42] actual states

[00:38:44] on a partisan vote

[00:38:45] by one party

[00:38:46] for its own

[00:38:47] political advantage.

[00:38:49] Neither Puerto Rico

[00:38:50] nor the Dominican Republic

[00:38:53] nor the District

[00:38:54] of Columbia

[00:38:55] nor Samoa

[00:38:55] or a lot of others

[00:38:57] want to actually

[00:38:58] be states,

[00:38:59] but that's okay.

[00:39:00] We'll make them states

[00:39:01] that would then add

[00:39:02] in the case

[00:39:03] of the District

[00:39:04] of Columbia

[00:39:04] and Puerto Rico

[00:39:05] four more

[00:39:06] which you would have

[00:39:07] to assume

[00:39:08] would be Democratic

[00:39:09] senators

[00:39:10] and that would change

[00:39:11] the balance of power

[00:39:12] there pretty significantly.

[00:39:14] Then, also,

[00:39:16] they point out

[00:39:17] that if you did

[00:39:19] have that

[00:39:19] particular situation

[00:39:21] where Democrats

[00:39:22] controlled the House,

[00:39:23] the Senate,

[00:39:24] and the White House,

[00:39:26] the next election,

[00:39:27] I know it's hard

[00:39:28] to begin to think

[00:39:29] about the next election,

[00:39:30] but Gary Bauer

[00:39:32] yesterday brought it up

[00:39:33] so let's bring it up.

[00:39:34] In 2026

[00:39:36] would be one

[00:39:38] and also in 2028

[00:39:40] both of those

[00:39:41] would be more favorable

[00:39:42] to Democrats

[00:39:43] because the way

[00:39:45] the particular set

[00:39:46] of circumstances

[00:39:47] play out,

[00:39:49] the Democrats

[00:39:49] would have a

[00:39:50] greater advantage

[00:39:52] and Republicans

[00:39:53] would have to

[00:39:53] defend more seats.

[00:39:55] So they're not only

[00:39:56] talking about

[00:39:57] what could happen

[00:39:58] in 2025

[00:39:58] but also

[00:40:00] what could happen

[00:40:00] in 2026,

[00:40:02] 2028,

[00:40:03] and the rest.

[00:40:03] And so, again,

[00:40:05] they point out

[00:40:06] that part of the problem,

[00:40:07] their argument is,

[00:40:09] now after talking

[00:40:10] about some of the concerns

[00:40:11] with Democrats,

[00:40:12] they raise their concerns

[00:40:13] about Republicans

[00:40:14] because the editors

[00:40:16] also say that

[00:40:17] for two elections

[00:40:18] in a row,

[00:40:18] the Republicans

[00:40:19] squandered their Senate

[00:40:21] chances.

[00:40:21] After 2020,

[00:40:23] as president,

[00:40:24] then outgoing

[00:40:25] President Donald Trump

[00:40:27] made all sorts of claims

[00:40:28] about voting fraud

[00:40:30] that discouraged

[00:40:31] Republican turnout

[00:40:32] and that affected

[00:40:34] these two Georgia seats

[00:40:36] in a way that

[00:40:37] most people

[00:40:38] are still lamenting

[00:40:40] and thus gave you

[00:40:41] kind of a 50-50 tie

[00:40:43] in that particular case

[00:40:45] as well.

[00:40:45] The argument

[00:40:46] they're making now

[00:40:47] is that they are

[00:40:48] certainly

[00:40:49] a little better

[00:40:50] for forming

[00:40:52] and I think

[00:40:52] it is quite clear

[00:40:53] that Republicans

[00:40:55] probably will pick up

[00:40:56] a couple of seats.

[00:40:58] I've mentioned

[00:40:59] West Virginia

[00:40:59] as one of those.

[00:41:00] Some people

[00:41:01] are mentioning Montana.

[00:41:02] I've heard other people

[00:41:03] mention everything

[00:41:04] from Ohio

[00:41:05] to Wisconsin

[00:41:06] and we can go down

[00:41:07] the list

[00:41:08] and of course

[00:41:08] I mentioned Arizona

[00:41:09] as a possibility.

[00:41:10] Pennsylvania,

[00:41:12] there are some

[00:41:13] and we won't know

[00:41:14] until tonight

[00:41:14] but again

[00:41:15] it's just an illustration

[00:41:16] that we will

[00:41:17] not only tomorrow

[00:41:18] and throughout the week

[00:41:20] and on Friday

[00:41:21] we'll have our

[00:41:21] weekend edition

[00:41:22] with Kelly Shackelford

[00:41:24] and Jeff Mater

[00:41:25] look not only

[00:41:27] at the presidential races

[00:41:30] but I should say

[00:41:31] also the Senate races

[00:41:32] because we recognize

[00:41:34] how important

[00:41:35] those are as well.

[00:41:36] So these are the first

[00:41:37] two articles I posted.

[00:41:38] Turns out both of them

[00:41:40] just happen to have come

[00:41:40] from the Wall Street Journal.

[00:41:42] Could California

[00:41:43] elect Donald Trump

[00:41:44] and are the Senate stakes

[00:41:46] as high as they've ever been

[00:41:48] in this election

[00:41:49] and those are available

[00:41:51] on our website

[00:41:52] at pointofview.net

[00:41:53] Again, I recognize

[00:41:55] most of you

[00:41:55] probably have voted

[00:41:57] but if you have not

[00:41:58] first of all

[00:41:59] you have my

[00:42:00] viewpoints commentary

[00:42:01] today about the election

[00:42:02] you might want

[00:42:02] to print it out

[00:42:03] pass it on to others

[00:42:04] and maybe even read it.

[00:42:06] We still have of course

[00:42:07] the election central

[00:42:08] if that would be helpful

[00:42:09] to you

[00:42:10] because even in this

[00:42:11] 11th hour

[00:42:12] you might know

[00:42:12] with some people

[00:42:13] that say

[00:42:13] I'm sure not

[00:42:15] I really don't know

[00:42:16] how I'm going to vote

[00:42:17] I think I know

[00:42:17] I'm going to vote

[00:42:18] for President

[00:42:19] and Senate

[00:42:19] but I don't know

[00:42:21] any of these

[00:42:21] congressional candidates

[00:42:22] well the good news is

[00:42:24] go to that voter guide

[00:42:25] which we just talked about

[00:42:26] a few minutes ago

[00:42:26] with Debbie Withnow

[00:42:27] at iVoterGuide

[00:42:29] and you can educate them

[00:42:30] about those particular

[00:42:32] elections as well.

[00:42:34] So let's take a break

[00:42:35] and when we come back

[00:42:36] I want to spend some time

[00:42:37] kind of looking ahead

[00:42:38] and this is another opportunity

[00:42:40] to get another Gen Z

[00:42:42] expert on the program here

[00:42:44] because he has written

[00:42:45] a very good piece

[00:42:46] which is entitled

[00:42:48] Make America Graceful Again.

[00:42:51] Ethan Watson is a student

[00:42:53] at the University of Kansas

[00:42:55] and we want to talk with him

[00:42:56] about his article

[00:42:58] and just remind us

[00:42:59] that after the election

[00:43:01] we need to do what we can

[00:43:03] to bring this country together.

[00:43:05] We'll talk about that with him

[00:43:06] and take your phone calls

[00:43:08] right after these important messages.

[00:43:09] It almost seems like

[00:43:12] we live in a different world

[00:43:13] from many people

[00:43:15] in positions of authority.

[00:43:16] They say men can be women

[00:43:18] and women men.

[00:43:20] People are prosecuted differently

[00:43:22] or not at all

[00:43:23] depending on their politics.

[00:43:25] Criminals are more valued

[00:43:26] and rewarded

[00:43:27] than law-abiding citizens.

[00:43:30] It's so overwhelming

[00:43:31] so demoralizing

[00:43:33] you feel like giving up

[00:43:34] but we can't

[00:43:36] we shouldn't

[00:43:37] we must not.

[00:43:38] As Winston Churchill said to Britain

[00:43:40] in the darkest days

[00:43:41] of World War II

[00:43:42] never give in

[00:43:44] never give in

[00:43:45] never, never, never

[00:43:47] never yield to force

[00:43:48] never yield to the apparently

[00:43:50] overwhelming might

[00:43:51] of the enemy.

[00:43:53] And that's what we say

[00:43:54] to you today.

[00:43:55] This is not a time

[00:43:57] to give in

[00:43:57] but to step up

[00:43:59] and join Point of View

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[00:44:02] in the chaos.

[00:44:03] We can't do it alone

[00:44:04] but together

[00:44:05] with God's help

[00:44:07] we will overcome

[00:44:08] the darkness.

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