Point of View November 26, 2024 – Hour 2 : Tuesday’s Headlines

[00:00:04] Across America, Live, this is Point of View, Kirby Anderson.

[00:00:20] Second hour today, this is of course the second day of our Thanksgiving week. We will have a live program tomorrow.

[00:00:26] Matter of fact, you won't want to miss the conversation we're going to have with Dr. Scott Coulter and he will be in studio with us in the second hour so you'll be able to hear from him and I hope some of you will be listening even if you're driving off to your Thanksgiving event.

[00:00:41] And then of course we will be playing a tape on Thursday. I've already mentioned who will be on that one and Friday but we'll also be making available, I'll talk about it a little bit later, the Thanksgiving quiz and some other things you can do to kind of get ready for Thanksgiving.

[00:00:56] But this hour, I want to first of all talk about a couple of issues in the news. First of all, the decision to dismiss some of the cases against President-elect Donald Trump.

[00:01:06] Also one of the very significant posts that came from President-elect Donald Trump about tariffs.

[00:01:13] And then we'll get into maybe next segment, a little bit of a deep dive into something I was wanting to cover for some time.

[00:01:21] How many Christians actually did vote in the 2024 election?

[00:01:25] We have all the documentation on our website and this would be helpful to you if you have maybe been talking about the need for more civic involvement because the numbers are still very discouraging.

[00:01:38] And by the bottom of the hour, I want to do a deep dive into deportations.

[00:01:44] I, of course, had my commentary yesterday on deportation, which is kind of a brief summary.

[00:01:50] But I want to dig a little more deeply into that.

[00:01:53] This comes from Mark Krikorian and talking about what would be required if indeed these deportations take place.

[00:02:01] Kind of help you see behind the scenes.

[00:02:03] And I could have done some of that yesterday, but the article made more sense today.

[00:02:08] And, of course, we also, as you might remember, originally thought that today I'd be right now talking with Senator Ted Budd, senator from North Carolina.

[00:02:16] But he was able to meet yesterday with us on Monday.

[00:02:21] So things kind of move around and you just have to be flexible.

[00:02:24] But I want to educate you on a couple of really key issues.

[00:02:28] But let's take a couple of news items first.

[00:02:31] And that is, it turns out that the Justice Department, that's under the Biden administration, the special counsel, Jack Smith, has filed a motion.

[00:02:41] And he filed a motion yesterday to dismiss all of the felony charges against President-elect Donald Trump, at least in relation to the January 6th election interference case.

[00:02:53] Which was a flimsy case, first of all, anyway.

[00:02:56] But that certainly puts that aside, although I'm going to add a disclaimer in just a minute.

[00:03:02] But at the very same time in which the special counsel for the Justice Department wanted to dismiss those felony charges,

[00:03:12] you had federal prosecutors also going to drop their classified documents case against Trump in Florida.

[00:03:19] Again, how could you pursue a case against Donald Trump for what he did with classified documents in Florida

[00:03:27] and not pursue the same kind of prosecution of the current president, Joe Biden?

[00:03:33] And I think we kind of know where that takes us.

[00:03:36] Now, what about the disclaimer?

[00:03:39] First of all, this doesn't dismiss everything.

[00:03:42] Certainly we have in New York, Alvin Bragg, and I won't even get into that one.

[00:03:45] But the one, even with Jack Smith, interestingly enough, he's going to resign.

[00:03:51] I know he's going to resign before January 20th.

[00:03:53] Why is that?

[00:03:54] Because on the very first day, Donald Trump becomes president again on January 20th.

[00:03:58] He will fire him if he doesn't already resign.

[00:04:01] So we know what's going to happen there.

[00:04:02] But without getting too deep into the legal weeds, Jack Smith said that he wants the case dismissed without prejudice.

[00:04:12] Again, you have to read through some of these legal things.

[00:04:15] We always make jokes about actually given some kind of support on his own recognizance.

[00:04:22] And I always go, why do they use words?

[00:04:24] And without prejudice, what that means is we can leave open the possibility that after Donald Trump leaves office,

[00:04:34] say, four years from now, that he could be prosecuted again on the same charges.

[00:04:39] Don't think that's going to happen.

[00:04:41] But just again, some of those little footnotes are hanging out there, which I think just illustrates the point as to the fact that there just seems to be this unrelenting attack on the president-elect.

[00:04:55] Also, back to what happens in the case out of Florida.

[00:04:59] In the classified documents case, federal prosecutors announced they would drop the charges in Florida, ending at least that particular issue.

[00:05:09] But the case, if you think about it, had already been dismissed by a federal judge earlier this year,

[00:05:14] and prosecutors motioned to drop the appeal after the filing from the judge.

[00:05:20] So it looks like most, not all, of those cases that were brought against Donald Trump have been set aside and will be dismissed.

[00:05:30] So we'll see what that is the case.

[00:05:32] And, of course, you might remember on a couple of months ago when we had Dr. Merrill Matthews in the studio on our Friday weekend edition,

[00:05:41] he said, well, is it possible that the president could actually execute his duties from jail or from prison?

[00:05:48] I didn't think that was going to happen, and now you don't have to ask that question.

[00:05:52] But it's an illustration, again, of some of the attacks that have come against this president.

[00:05:57] Let me, for just a minute, mention something which maybe we'll get into more detail tomorrow,

[00:06:02] because it's quite possible Scott Coulter can get into that.

[00:06:05] But the president-elect has actually posted something rather dramatic,

[00:06:11] and that is he wants to increase tariffs dramatically against both Canada and Mexico.

[00:06:20] He wrote, quote,

[00:06:21] As everyone is aware, thousands of people are pouring through Mexico and Canada,

[00:06:25] bringing crime and drugs at levels never seen before.

[00:06:28] Right now, a caravan coming from Mexico composed of thousands of people

[00:06:31] seems to be unstoppable in its quest to come through our current open border.

[00:06:36] Donald Trump says that on January 20th, as one of my many first executive orders,

[00:06:42] I will sign all the necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% tariff

[00:06:49] on all products coming into the United States and its ridiculous open borders.

[00:06:54] This tariff will remain in effect until such time as drugs, in particular fentanyl,

[00:07:00] and all illegal aliens stop this invasion of our country.

[00:07:03] Both Mexico and Canada have the absolute right and power to easily solve this long-simmering problem.

[00:07:11] We hereby demand that they use this power, and until such times that they do,

[00:07:16] it's time for them to pay a very big price.

[00:07:21] No one can actually argue that Donald Trump doesn't take strong actions.

[00:07:26] And then he goes on, if you haven't seen this, to also say that in his talk with China,

[00:07:32] and in particular about their drug smuggling, if you will, in particular fentanyl,

[00:07:39] he's also said that he would charge China an additional 10% tariff above all the additional tariffs.

[00:07:47] And so, again, you might say, is this a bluff?

[00:07:50] Well, we've had one of those before.

[00:07:52] Scott Linsicom at the Cato Institute talks about when one time he threatened a tariff,

[00:07:59] and then people freaked out, and then some of the governments and companies began to scramble to deal with that,

[00:08:09] and it turned out to be a rather costly charade.

[00:08:13] But this time, the responsibility and the burden is placed upon Canada, Mexico, and China.

[00:08:21] And in case you think that the problem with Canada is overstated,

[00:08:26] the best estimates are anywhere between 14,000 and 19,000 individuals attempted to cross from the U.S. into Canada per month.

[00:08:36] So we oftentimes look at the southern border.

[00:08:39] It's also a problem with the northern border.

[00:08:42] And we'll probably talk more about the tariff issue tomorrow.

[00:08:46] We'll come back with some other issues right after this.

[00:08:58] This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson.

[00:09:02] Earlier this month, Dominic Pino wrote about Milton Friedman's revenge.

[00:09:06] His argument was that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris got the economic policy they wanted and the voters hated.

[00:09:12] It's worth looking back to understand why the election went the way that it did.

[00:09:15] Milton Friedman was an economist best known for saying that inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon.

[00:09:22] He believed that inflation occurs when the money supply increases faster than output.

[00:09:27] Four years ago, candidate Joe Biden announced Milton Friedman isn't running the show anymore.

[00:09:32] Of course, Friedman wasn't running the show even before Biden was elected.

[00:09:36] But once Biden was elected, he proceeded to spend money and run up deficits.

[00:09:40] By 2021, the new republic proclaimed the end of Freedomnomics.

[00:09:45] First came the American Rescue Plan Act, followed by the Infrastructure Law, the CHIPS Act,

[00:09:50] and then finally the intentionally misnamed Inflation Reduction Act.

[00:09:54] Biden spent more and more federal money.

[00:09:57] Democrats even invented the word Bidenomics to describe their economic theory.

[00:10:01] The Biden administration ran up budget deficits, which as a share of GDP were greater than those in the Great Depression.

[00:10:08] Rise in inflation was inevitable.

[00:10:09] As I've mentioned in previous commentaries, economist Larry Summers warned that the American Rescue Plan would set off inflationary pressures of a kind we have not seen in a generation.

[00:10:19] Someone should have paid attention to him since he served as Barack Obama's Treasury Secretary.

[00:10:24] But his warning was mocked.

[00:10:26] He was right, and the skeptics were wrong.

[00:10:28] When voters were given an opportunity to express their opinion about Bidenomics, two-thirds of voters at the exit polls said that the economy was not good or poor.

[00:10:37] That is why we call this Milton Friedman's revenge.

[00:10:41] I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view.

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[00:11:03] Once again, just a program note, let me just mention tomorrow we're going to have Ryan Brown with us, and we'll talk about this International Day of Prayer for the Persecuted Church.

[00:11:11] As I've just mentioned, we'll have Dr. Scott Coulter with us.

[00:11:13] Second hour, we're going to spend some time talking about all these Trump appointees, what's going to happen there.

[00:11:21] Maybe a little bit more about the Danbury Institute and how, in some respects, Christians need to be more motivated to be involved in the political process.

[00:11:31] Which, by the way, brings us to the next article.

[00:11:33] Our first article today is a study now of the number of Christians that actually voted in the 2024 election.

[00:11:42] And I'll just read sections of it because there's so many other things to cover.

[00:11:47] This goes on for three pages, but if you've always wondered, okay, what happened?

[00:11:52] Because prior to the election, you might remember, and I'm quoting from S.E. McCarthy here,

[00:11:57] George Barna had anticipated that voter turnout among Christians would be low.

[00:12:03] Well, it turned out he was right, with as many as 40 million Christians simply choosing not to vote.

[00:12:09] Now, he goes on to say, while Christians did vote in fewer numbers than they did in 2020,

[00:12:15] George Barna noted that the potentially devastating impact for the Trump campaign was blunted by an even lower level of turnout among the Harris campaign's target segments.

[00:12:27] So, again, if it weren't for the fact that also fewer people voted for Kamala Harris than even had voted for Joe Biden before,

[00:12:36] this might have had a very different kind of impact on Donald Trump's election.

[00:12:42] But nevertheless, here are the numbers.

[00:12:45] Overall, 56% of self-identified Christians voted in 2024,

[00:12:52] which, as George Barna has pointed out, was barely higher than the involvement among people aligned with non-Christian faiths.

[00:13:01] That's at 53%, but at least higher than among voting-age Americans who have no religious faith.

[00:13:08] That's 48%.

[00:13:09] Interesting, both Catholic voters and Christians with a biblical worldview both outperformed their 2020 turnout by three points.

[00:13:17] In other words, he makes a distinction between people who call themselves Christians and Christians that have a Christian worldview.

[00:13:24] That's kind of a smaller circle inside of a larger circle.

[00:13:28] And it would not probably surprise you that an individual that listens to Point of View

[00:13:34] or an individual that goes to church and has worked to develop a biblical worldview

[00:13:40] probably would take more seriously their responsibility to go out and vote.

[00:13:46] But still, even if you add that 3% to the 56%, you're still back to only 60% in round numbers that actually vote.

[00:13:58] And again, the question I always have is, what is wrong with the other 40%?

[00:14:02] And you can begin to see that we have some real issues that need to be addressed.

[00:14:07] And we will talk about a little of that tomorrow with Scott Coulter.

[00:14:11] But let me go on and point out that if you look at the vote for Donald Trump,

[00:14:17] among the approximately 75 million votes that Donald Trump has been able to get in the 2024 election,

[00:14:26] more than three-quarters of them, that would be 78%, came from the Christian community.

[00:14:31] So that was, I think, very significant.

[00:14:34] One other element, and again, I could read through this entire material, but there's other things to cover.

[00:14:41] One other thing that was very interesting is the majority of Christian voters also identified their religious belief,

[00:14:49] and as a result, their religious beliefs, also the difference in the party platforms,

[00:14:55] and maybe the inside of their family as some of the biggest impacts on their choice of candidates.

[00:15:01] So here's maybe a takeaway.

[00:15:04] An individual that has a Christian faith, who maybe has taken just a little bit of time to study the party platforms,

[00:15:13] and we have now taken off the election 2024, but of course you might have found it before,

[00:15:20] but again, the link is very easy.

[00:15:22] There was a stark difference between the Democratic Party platform and the Republican Party platform,

[00:15:27] and then some of the family members were the case.

[00:15:30] I've suggested to you before that you may have a young person in your extended family.

[00:15:36] You may be having Thanksgiving dinner with them on Thursday or Friday.

[00:15:40] You might even ask, did they vote?

[00:15:42] And if they did not, talk about why it would be important for them to vote,

[00:15:45] and we can see that those are important.

[00:15:48] And so one last comment from George Barna.

[00:15:51] He said, consistent with the patterns established,

[00:15:54] Trump voters were more than twice as likely as Harris voters to identify their religious faith

[00:16:00] as a major influence on the candidate of choice.

[00:16:04] So there are just a couple of obvious takeaways,

[00:16:06] and this three-page summary reminds us that,

[00:16:10] yes, we did have a number of Christians turn out to vote,

[00:16:14] but you can either look at the glass half full or half empty.

[00:16:18] Half full, okay.

[00:16:20] Especially among those individuals who were Christians with a biblical worldview,

[00:16:24] they had a higher percentage who voted,

[00:16:27] but still, can I believe now for a minute, the glass half empty,

[00:16:32] still, what is wrong with the other 40%?

[00:16:35] I mean, after all, there are people that work to give you the right to vote.

[00:16:40] There are people that died for your right to vote.

[00:16:42] And here, just the lackadaisical attitude is still a puzzle to me,

[00:16:47] but it's one more thing we will be talking about,

[00:16:50] no doubt, in the future here on Point of View.

[00:16:53] But let's, if we can, talk about a few things that will maybe change

[00:16:57] with the election of Donald Trump.

[00:16:59] The first I want to talk about before the break,

[00:17:02] the second one will be of the issue of deportations.

[00:17:06] But one of the other ones that will be addressed,

[00:17:09] both by Donald Trump with executive orders,

[00:17:12] and also by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramachwamy,

[00:17:15] is to address the issue of wokeness, or DEI.

[00:17:21] This article by Mike Gonzalez and Armand Thule says

[00:17:25] that the electorate has rejected wokeness should be obvious by now.

[00:17:29] Donald Trump's most effective campaign

[00:17:31] and featured the tagline,

[00:17:33] Kamala is for they, them.

[00:17:35] President Trump is for you.

[00:17:37] Even the liberal New York columnist Maureen Dowd

[00:17:40] wrote after the election that woke is broke.

[00:17:43] And so now they make the case that,

[00:17:45] okay, it's one thing to identify the problems with woke theology,

[00:17:50] but it's another thing to actually address it.

[00:17:54] And he said the first thing is we have to define it.

[00:17:56] Woke means believing that America is riddled with inequities

[00:18:00] where not only it's people,

[00:18:02] but the system itself is racist and need a systemic overhaul.

[00:18:06] And so they point to one very key element of that,

[00:18:09] and it's called DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion.

[00:18:13] And those DEI measures, particularly in the government

[00:18:16] and in the academy,

[00:18:18] are actually created and have created an identity-based system

[00:18:23] in which people's immutable characteristics,

[00:18:27] not their choices,

[00:18:28] determine whether they're worthy of awards or punishments.

[00:18:32] So then they begin to talk about where Donald Trump and Congress

[00:18:36] need to begin to reverse these policies.

[00:18:39] Some of that will happen, of course,

[00:18:41] with also removing certain agencies

[00:18:44] through the DOGE,

[00:18:46] the Department of Government Efficiency.

[00:18:48] But as we go to a break,

[00:18:50] let me mention some of those that they have linked.

[00:18:53] The first is for Donald Trump to rescind and reverse

[00:18:57] all of the executive orders that Joe Biden has implemented,

[00:19:02] which would implement DEI, gender theory,

[00:19:06] and this even includes one of those executive orders,

[00:19:11] 13985,

[00:19:13] 13985,

[00:19:14] which kind of advanced an entire equity agenda

[00:19:18] over the entire federal government.

[00:19:20] And so the argument is,

[00:19:22] is that Donald Trump should sign two executive orders.

[00:19:26] The first to reinstate his 2020 ban on DEI training.

[00:19:31] The second would be to define male and female

[00:19:35] in precise biological terms.

[00:19:38] Boy, common sense breaking out all over the place.

[00:19:40] So that's number one.

[00:19:42] Number two,

[00:19:43] to end woke university practices.

[00:19:45] This could be something that could be done

[00:19:48] through the Department of Education,

[00:19:50] something that could be done

[00:19:51] through the Justice Department.

[00:19:52] But another few that hadn't even occurred to me,

[00:19:56] number three,

[00:19:56] to retake control of museums,

[00:19:59] starting with the Smithsonian Institution.

[00:20:02] You know,

[00:20:03] I used to support the Smithsonian Institution,

[00:20:05] and if they could kind of get their act together,

[00:20:08] I'd be glad to do so again.

[00:20:09] But they have all sorts of mission here

[00:20:13] to try to decolonize the society.

[00:20:16] And there's statements on the webpage

[00:20:19] about white fragility

[00:20:21] and white dominant culture

[00:20:22] on the National Museum of African American History.

[00:20:25] So,

[00:20:26] hadn't thought about that.

[00:20:27] Number four,

[00:20:28] to eliminate the Census Bureau's

[00:20:31] racial and ethnic categories.

[00:20:33] There's a point at which,

[00:20:35] after a while,

[00:20:35] with so much intermarriage

[00:20:38] between different races,

[00:20:39] that doesn't even make a great deal of sense.

[00:20:42] And the last one,

[00:20:43] number five,

[00:20:44] to dissolve the Corporation for Public Broadcasting,

[00:20:47] which funds public media organizations

[00:20:50] that are responsible for spreading

[00:20:52] the woke mind virus.

[00:20:53] We'll see if that one comes under the axe

[00:20:56] under the Department of Government Efficiency or not.

[00:20:59] But these are some very effective actions

[00:21:03] that would need to take place

[00:21:05] if indeed,

[00:21:06] as they say in their article

[00:21:08] that appeared in the Wall Street Journal,

[00:21:10] how Donald Trump can rid Washington of wokeness.

[00:21:14] That seems like a possibility.

[00:21:16] And that's one of those things

[00:21:18] we'll be watching right here on Point of View.

[00:21:20] Let's take a break, though.

[00:21:22] When we come back,

[00:21:23] a deep dive into what deportation really means

[00:21:27] and how it will be accomplished.

[00:21:29] We'll be right back.

[00:21:30] Many years ago,

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[00:23:09] And now, here again, is Kirby Anderson.

[00:23:13] Last half hour, we're going to spend some time

[00:23:15] talking about immigration and deportation in particular.

[00:23:18] Might hold up this booklet.

[00:23:19] I looked at it and I realized,

[00:23:21] I wrote this six years ago

[00:23:22] on a biblical view on immigration.

[00:23:25] It is time to update it for a couple of reasons.

[00:23:28] First of all,

[00:23:28] it didn't really talk about the issue of deportation

[00:23:30] because the goal here was primarily

[00:23:32] just to talk about

[00:23:33] the really conflicting kind of ideas about this.

[00:23:37] Because on the one hand,

[00:23:38] as Christians, we support individuals

[00:23:41] that actually follow the law.

[00:23:44] And so there are a lot of passages

[00:23:46] that we talk about the fact in Romans 13

[00:23:48] that we should obey those in authority

[00:23:50] and all the rest.

[00:23:52] But then, of course,

[00:23:53] we also have passages

[00:23:54] that talk about having compassion

[00:23:56] towards what are called aliens and immigrants

[00:23:59] and the individuals that travel

[00:24:02] through sojourners through the land.

[00:24:04] And so it was really just kind of a look

[00:24:06] at the biblical issue.

[00:24:07] But it's time to update it

[00:24:08] because if nothing else,

[00:24:10] the issue of deportation

[00:24:12] is no longer just kind of hypothetical.

[00:24:15] It looks like it's going to be implemented

[00:24:17] in a rather dramatic way.

[00:24:19] What I'm going to do

[00:24:21] is kind of give you a summary

[00:24:23] of some of the material

[00:24:24] that we have posted by Mark Krikorian.

[00:24:27] He's been on the program with us before.

[00:24:29] It's been a while.

[00:24:30] And I think he has done a very good job

[00:24:32] of, in a sense,

[00:24:34] pulling the screen back,

[00:24:35] pulling the curtain back

[00:24:36] and talking about

[00:24:37] what is this really going to entail?

[00:24:40] Now, if you want to read something simple,

[00:24:43] my commentary yesterday on deportations

[00:24:46] just reminds you of the fact

[00:24:48] that while people are screaming

[00:24:50] about all sorts of people

[00:24:52] going to be dragged off the streets

[00:24:53] and everything else,

[00:24:54] that the newly designated borders are.

[00:24:57] Tom Holman talks about

[00:24:59] a three-step process.

[00:25:00] Where does he get that three-step process?

[00:25:03] Well, it turns out

[00:25:03] that's actually been implemented

[00:25:05] as a document

[00:25:06] in the Biden administration

[00:25:08] called the Mayorkas Memorandum.

[00:25:11] And the primary focus would be,

[00:25:13] first of all,

[00:25:14] on national security threats,

[00:25:15] then on people with criminal records,

[00:25:17] and then others

[00:25:19] that might fit into any kind of threat.

[00:25:21] And so we are talking about the fact,

[00:25:24] and you're going to hear this number

[00:25:25] in just a minute,

[00:25:26] 1.2 million people in this country

[00:25:29] who came in here illegally

[00:25:30] that have had full legal due process.

[00:25:33] They've received a final deportation order

[00:25:36] from an immigration judge,

[00:25:38] and those are the people

[00:25:39] that would also be removed as well.

[00:25:42] So let's get into this.

[00:25:44] Along the way,

[00:25:45] I will occasionally show a map

[00:25:47] or a diagram

[00:25:48] that might illustrate that,

[00:25:49] but you can certainly

[00:25:51] follow some of the links.

[00:25:52] But he starts off

[00:25:54] with a wonderful quote.

[00:25:56] And he says,

[00:25:57] Who said this?

[00:25:59] Credibility in immigration policy

[00:26:01] can be summed up in one sentence.

[00:26:03] Those who should get in, get in.

[00:26:06] Those who should be kept out

[00:26:07] are kept out.

[00:26:08] And those who should not be here

[00:26:11] will be required to leave.

[00:26:12] And he says,

[00:26:13] Who said that?

[00:26:14] Donald Trump?

[00:26:15] No.

[00:26:16] Stephen Miller?

[00:26:17] No.

[00:26:17] Incoming border czar?

[00:26:19] Tom Homan?

[00:26:20] No.

[00:26:20] That was actually said

[00:26:22] by Barbara Jordan.

[00:26:24] If you're not familiar,

[00:26:25] she was the first

[00:26:25] African-American congresswoman

[00:26:27] from the South.

[00:26:28] She was probably best known

[00:26:30] for the hearings

[00:26:31] for Watergate.

[00:26:33] She was later named

[00:26:35] by President Bill Clinton

[00:26:37] to head up an immigration commission

[00:26:39] some 30 years ago,

[00:26:41] and that's what she said.

[00:26:42] But, of course,

[00:26:43] the lack of credibility

[00:26:45] at that time

[00:26:46] and the lack of implementing that

[00:26:48] has led to what we find ourselves

[00:26:50] in today.

[00:26:52] So Mark Krikorian says,

[00:26:54] Look,

[00:26:54] we have entirely too many people

[00:26:56] in this country,

[00:26:58] especially individuals

[00:27:00] that are here

[00:27:01] that shouldn't be here

[00:27:02] that we would want to remove.

[00:27:04] And so he uses

[00:27:06] an illustration

[00:27:07] that when your tub

[00:27:08] is overflowing,

[00:27:09] you first turn off the tap.

[00:27:12] And he says,

[00:27:13] Mass impunity

[00:27:14] at the border

[00:27:15] will be the first thing

[00:27:16] to stop

[00:27:17] because there's no point

[00:27:18] to deporting people

[00:27:19] if it's easy for them

[00:27:21] to return.

[00:27:22] And so the illustration

[00:27:23] I use is maybe not a tub,

[00:27:25] but one time

[00:27:27] we had a leak

[00:27:27] in our house

[00:27:28] and I have one of those tools

[00:27:30] that you go out

[00:27:31] to the street

[00:27:32] and it turned off the water.

[00:27:34] Before you start

[00:27:35] mopping up water

[00:27:36] because you have a leak,

[00:27:38] you first of all

[00:27:39] have to turn off

[00:27:40] the water coming in.

[00:27:41] That's why there's always

[00:27:43] been an emphasis

[00:27:43] upon the border

[00:27:44] and the border wall.

[00:27:46] And so that is the case.

[00:27:48] Well, then he points out

[00:27:49] that we still have a problem

[00:27:51] and we have a problem

[00:27:52] called catch and release.

[00:27:54] Again, sometimes

[00:27:55] I make the joke

[00:27:56] that catch and release

[00:27:57] works fine

[00:27:58] for those of us

[00:27:59] that like fly fishing.

[00:28:00] It doesn't work very well

[00:28:01] when you catch a person,

[00:28:03] release them

[00:28:03] and they come back again.

[00:28:05] And so he says

[00:28:06] there are two ways

[00:28:06] to end the catch

[00:28:08] and release problem.

[00:28:09] Number one,

[00:28:10] to detain illegal

[00:28:12] border crosses

[00:28:13] until they can be repatriated.

[00:28:15] Or number two,

[00:28:16] if they make an asylum claim,

[00:28:18] assure that they wait

[00:28:19] across the border

[00:28:20] in Mexico

[00:28:20] for their court dates.

[00:28:22] That was something

[00:28:23] that was eliminated

[00:28:24] by the current president,

[00:28:26] Joe Biden,

[00:28:27] when it was implemented

[00:28:29] before by Donald Trump.

[00:28:31] He says option number one,

[00:28:33] that doesn't work very well

[00:28:34] because it would require

[00:28:35] a significant increase

[00:28:37] in spending

[00:28:37] and logistical assistance

[00:28:40] from the U.S. military.

[00:28:41] Do you want more military

[00:28:43] at the border?

[00:28:43] I don't think many people do.

[00:28:45] And of course,

[00:28:46] you would then

[00:28:47] have all sorts of problems

[00:28:49] with that regard.

[00:28:50] So option two

[00:28:51] is cheaper and easier,

[00:28:53] but it requires

[00:28:54] Mexico's consent.

[00:28:56] Now that gets back

[00:28:57] to the tariffs

[00:28:58] we just talked about

[00:28:59] at the top of the hour here

[00:29:01] because in some respects,

[00:29:03] the country

[00:29:03] has no obligation

[00:29:05] to take back

[00:29:06] non-Mexican immigrants,

[00:29:07] which account for

[00:29:08] a majority

[00:29:09] of the attempted crossings.

[00:29:10] So this protocol,

[00:29:12] it was called

[00:29:12] the Migrant Protocol

[00:29:14] Protection Protocols,

[00:29:16] or commonly known

[00:29:17] as Remain in Mexico,

[00:29:19] only went so far

[00:29:21] after President Trump

[00:29:22] threatened punishing tariffs

[00:29:24] on Mexico's exports

[00:29:27] to the United States.

[00:29:29] So you can see,

[00:29:30] as we've said before,

[00:29:32] Mark Krikarian used to say

[00:29:33] when he was on this program

[00:29:34] that the immigration issue

[00:29:36] relates to everything.

[00:29:37] Because you talk about

[00:29:38] job loss,

[00:29:40] you talk about

[00:29:40] jobs going overseas,

[00:29:42] you talk about

[00:29:43] the issue of

[00:29:44] crime going up,

[00:29:46] drugs going across,

[00:29:47] but even the whole

[00:29:48] issue of tariffs,

[00:29:49] they're all sort of

[00:29:50] interrelated to this

[00:29:51] issue of immigration.

[00:29:53] So the argument

[00:29:54] being made

[00:29:55] is that you are

[00:29:56] going to have to

[00:29:57] have, again,

[00:29:59] a restoration

[00:29:59] of the Remain in Mexico

[00:30:02] policy.

[00:30:03] Mexico may not like it,

[00:30:05] but it isn't going to

[00:30:06] like a 25% tariff

[00:30:08] either on anything

[00:30:09] Mexican products

[00:30:10] would have to pay

[00:30:11] to come into this

[00:30:12] country.

[00:30:13] So whether that is

[00:30:15] nothing more than

[00:30:16] a verbal threat,

[00:30:17] and I think the

[00:30:18] incoming president

[00:30:20] is a lot more

[00:30:21] serious about it

[00:30:21] than some people

[00:30:22] realize,

[00:30:23] that is a big issue

[00:30:24] as well.

[00:30:25] And so he goes on

[00:30:26] to say that these

[00:30:27] and other measures

[00:30:28] such as a safe

[00:30:29] third country agreements

[00:30:30] are going to have to

[00:30:32] be necessary

[00:30:33] to stabilize the border.

[00:30:35] We also have

[00:30:36] another situation

[00:30:37] in which the numbers

[00:30:38] are interesting

[00:30:39] because Mark

[00:30:40] Krikorian probably

[00:30:41] knows these numbers

[00:30:41] better than anyone else.

[00:30:43] So if you have

[00:30:44] something to write with,

[00:30:45] here's what he suggests.

[00:30:47] The Biden administration

[00:30:49] has released

[00:30:49] in this country

[00:30:50] close to 6 million

[00:30:52] foreigners

[00:30:53] with no legal right

[00:30:54] to enter

[00:30:55] and probably

[00:30:56] another 2 million

[00:30:58] that are believed

[00:30:59] to have eluded

[00:31:00] the overwhelmed

[00:31:01] border patrol,

[00:31:02] which are called

[00:31:03] gotaways.

[00:31:04] So 6 million

[00:31:06] here,

[00:31:07] 2 million

[00:31:07] gotaways.

[00:31:08] The Census Bureau

[00:31:10] data suggests

[00:31:11] there now may be

[00:31:12] about 14 million

[00:31:14] total illegal

[00:31:15] aliens or immigrants

[00:31:17] in this country.

[00:31:18] And he says,

[00:31:19] given the imprecision

[00:31:21] of such estimates,

[00:31:22] the real number

[00:31:23] could be closer

[00:31:24] to 15 million

[00:31:25] or 16 million,

[00:31:26] though some

[00:31:27] of the numbers

[00:31:28] that are oftentimes

[00:31:29] cited by Republican

[00:31:31] politicians

[00:31:32] 30 million

[00:31:33] to 40 million

[00:31:34] are implausible.

[00:31:35] So if you hear

[00:31:36] somebody say,

[00:31:37] well, we've got

[00:31:37] 30 million people

[00:31:38] here illegally,

[00:31:40] his argument is,

[00:31:41] and Mark Krikorian

[00:31:42] probably knows

[00:31:43] more about it

[00:31:43] than most,

[00:31:44] says that number

[00:31:45] is just too large.

[00:31:46] But if you want

[00:31:47] to argue about

[00:31:48] whether it's

[00:31:49] 14 million,

[00:31:49] 15 million,

[00:31:50] 16 million,

[00:31:51] okay,

[00:31:51] you're at least

[00:31:52] in the right

[00:31:52] order of magnitude.

[00:31:54] That's kind

[00:31:55] of interesting.

[00:31:56] And, of course,

[00:31:57] then,

[00:31:57] how do you

[00:31:58] begin to

[00:31:59] address this

[00:31:59] issue?

[00:32:00] Well,

[00:32:01] Vice President-elect

[00:32:03] J.D. Vance

[00:32:03] the other day

[00:32:04] was saying,

[00:32:05] well,

[00:32:05] just think about

[00:32:06] if you order

[00:32:07] a really big

[00:32:08] sandwich,

[00:32:09] maybe it's

[00:32:10] 10 times

[00:32:10] the size

[00:32:11] of your mouth.

[00:32:12] I've been known

[00:32:13] to do that

[00:32:14] once or twice.

[00:32:14] He says,

[00:32:15] how are you going

[00:32:16] to eat the whole

[00:32:16] thing?

[00:32:17] Well,

[00:32:17] you take the

[00:32:18] first bite,

[00:32:19] then you take

[00:32:19] the second bite,

[00:32:20] then you take

[00:32:21] the first bite.

[00:32:21] He says,

[00:32:22] let's start

[00:32:22] with the first

[00:32:23] million who are

[00:32:24] most violent

[00:32:25] criminals who

[00:32:25] are the most

[00:32:26] aggressive.

[00:32:27] Get them out

[00:32:28] of here.

[00:32:28] First,

[00:32:29] prioritize them,

[00:32:30] and then you'll

[00:32:31] see if we can

[00:32:32] take on some

[00:32:33] of the other

[00:32:34] bites.

[00:32:34] And so the

[00:32:35] argument he was

[00:32:36] making is,

[00:32:37] when you have

[00:32:38] such large

[00:32:39] numbers,

[00:32:40] let's focus,

[00:32:41] as my

[00:32:41] commentary

[00:32:42] yesterday

[00:32:42] pointed out,

[00:32:44] on those

[00:32:44] individuals who

[00:32:45] are either

[00:32:46] national security

[00:32:47] threats.

[00:32:48] And we know

[00:32:49] who some of

[00:32:50] those individuals

[00:32:50] are.

[00:32:51] We don't always

[00:32:52] know where all

[00:32:52] of them are,

[00:32:53] but we know

[00:32:53] where many of

[00:32:54] them may be,

[00:32:55] and also

[00:32:56] criminals,

[00:32:56] that is the

[00:32:57] case.

[00:32:58] And so then,

[00:32:59] I went after

[00:33:00] the break to

[00:33:01] talk about,

[00:33:01] well then,

[00:33:02] what about the

[00:33:03] second tranche,

[00:33:04] or the second

[00:33:05] layer of

[00:33:07] deportation of

[00:33:07] criminals?

[00:33:08] And that's where

[00:33:09] I learned some

[00:33:09] new material as

[00:33:10] well.

[00:33:11] But let's take a

[00:33:12] break.

[00:33:12] When we come

[00:33:12] back, we're

[00:33:13] going to talk

[00:33:13] about, first of

[00:33:14] all, some of

[00:33:14] the things that

[00:33:15] were done behind

[00:33:16] the scenes under

[00:33:18] Joe Biden's

[00:33:18] administration,

[00:33:19] and some of

[00:33:20] the things are

[00:33:20] going to have

[00:33:21] to be reinstituted

[00:33:22] in a Trump

[00:33:23] administration.

[00:33:24] in terms of

[00:33:25] some of these

[00:33:26] deportations.

[00:33:27] But let's take

[00:33:27] a break, and if

[00:33:28] you find yourself

[00:33:29] saying, I'd like

[00:33:30] to read this in

[00:33:30] its entirety,

[00:33:31] well that is the

[00:33:32] next article we've

[00:33:33] listed on our

[00:33:33] website by Mark

[00:33:35] Krikorian, and you

[00:33:36] can read it on the

[00:33:37] website, pointofview.net.

[00:33:39] We'll be back right

[00:33:40] after this.

[00:33:55] You're listening to

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[00:34:01] Back for a few more

[00:34:01] minutes talking about

[00:34:02] deportations, and

[00:34:03] again, one of the

[00:34:04] things that was so

[00:34:05] striking is that the

[00:34:06] Biden administration

[00:34:07] has reduced the

[00:34:08] number of deportations

[00:34:10] by 67% compared to

[00:34:13] Trump, and as I've

[00:34:15] pointed out before,

[00:34:16] this is one of those

[00:34:16] little trivia points,

[00:34:18] the particular

[00:34:19] president who has

[00:34:20] deported more people

[00:34:21] than anyone else

[00:34:22] was actually Barack

[00:34:24] Obama.

[00:34:25] So when you compare

[00:34:26] the Biden

[00:34:26] administration to the

[00:34:27] Obama administration,

[00:34:28] the percentage is

[00:34:29] even higher, and it

[00:34:30] illustrates that one

[00:34:31] of the big obstacles,

[00:34:33] especially for both

[00:34:35] Trump and now

[00:34:36] Biden, of course

[00:34:38] Biden has been

[00:34:38] unwilling to deport,

[00:34:40] is the sanctuary

[00:34:41] policies of many of

[00:34:43] these cities and

[00:34:44] states.

[00:34:44] By the way, not all

[00:34:45] of those, by the

[00:34:47] way, are run by

[00:34:48] Democrats.

[00:34:48] Most are, but not

[00:34:49] all.

[00:34:50] Let's be fair about

[00:34:51] that.

[00:34:51] And that, of course,

[00:34:52] limits the possibility

[00:34:54] of cooperation with

[00:34:55] ICE, and so that is

[00:34:57] the case.

[00:34:57] When a suspect who

[00:34:59] is booked, either

[00:35:00] for drug dealing,

[00:35:01] wife beating,

[00:35:01] drunk driving,

[00:35:02] whatever it might

[00:35:03] be, it raises a

[00:35:05] red flag in the

[00:35:06] ICE system,

[00:35:07] Immigration Custom

[00:35:08] Enforcement System,

[00:35:09] and the agency

[00:35:10] sends a detainer,

[00:35:11] that's an instruction

[00:35:12] to hold the criminal

[00:35:13] ailing up to 48

[00:35:14] hours so that they

[00:35:15] could pick him up.

[00:35:16] Well, what happens

[00:35:17] in these sanctuary

[00:35:19] cities, sanctuary

[00:35:20] states, is they

[00:35:21] don't follow that.

[00:35:23] And again, under

[00:35:24] the limitations under

[00:35:26] the Biden

[00:35:26] administration,

[00:35:28] that actually had

[00:35:29] issued 22,000

[00:35:30] detainers,

[00:35:33] they were actually

[00:35:34] ignored.

[00:35:34] So that's still a

[00:35:35] big problem, but

[00:35:37] the good news is

[00:35:37] most of the nation's

[00:35:39] states, counties,

[00:35:39] and cities are not

[00:35:40] sanctuary cities or

[00:35:43] jurisdictions for

[00:35:44] criminal aliens, and

[00:35:46] so that is the case.

[00:35:48] For those of you in

[00:35:49] Illinois, you know

[00:35:50] what your governor

[00:35:51] has said.

[00:35:51] J.B.

[00:35:51] Pritzker has said,

[00:35:52] you come for my

[00:35:53] people, you come

[00:35:54] through me.

[00:35:55] I did like Tom

[00:35:56] Holman the other

[00:35:57] day.

[00:35:57] He's the nominee

[00:35:58] from President Trump

[00:35:59] to lead the

[00:36:00] deportation effort.

[00:36:01] He said, well, the

[00:36:03] incoming administration

[00:36:04] will have no

[00:36:04] problem going

[00:36:05] through him.

[00:36:06] If any government

[00:36:07] wants to stand in

[00:36:07] the way, go ahead

[00:36:08] and do it.

[00:36:08] We'll see what

[00:36:09] happens.

[00:36:09] We're not going to

[00:36:10] be intimidated.

[00:36:11] And I think you're

[00:36:12] going to actually run

[00:36:13] afoul of the fact that

[00:36:15] the federal law is

[00:36:17] supposed to supersede

[00:36:19] the state law, but

[00:36:20] we'll see where that

[00:36:20] goes.

[00:36:21] But deporting

[00:36:22] criminals is fine, but

[00:36:24] the vast majority of

[00:36:25] illegal aliens aren't

[00:36:26] criminals.

[00:36:27] You probably figured

[00:36:28] that out by now.

[00:36:29] And so apart from

[00:36:31] the fact that they

[00:36:31] violated immigration by

[00:36:33] illegal entry, they're

[00:36:35] going to be harder to

[00:36:36] pick up.

[00:36:37] And so rather than

[00:36:38] knocking randomly on

[00:36:40] doors, the next

[00:36:42] priority will be to go

[00:36:43] back to that 1.2.

[00:36:44] Now this article says

[00:36:46] 1.3, which I think

[00:36:47] even still a low number

[00:36:48] of people that have

[00:36:50] had unexecuted orders

[00:36:52] of removal.

[00:36:53] These are individuals

[00:36:54] that have, quote, had

[00:36:55] their day in court.

[00:36:56] They have full legal

[00:36:57] due process.

[00:36:58] They've received a

[00:36:59] final deportation order

[00:37:01] and they, in many

[00:37:03] cases, just didn't show

[00:37:04] up.

[00:37:04] And so as a result, they

[00:37:06] can be deported.

[00:37:08] And so those are

[00:37:09] individuals that, of

[00:37:10] course, you can find

[00:37:12] and you can actually

[00:37:13] begin to remove them as

[00:37:16] the deportation order

[00:37:18] requires.

[00:37:19] The trouble is, is

[00:37:20] that now you also

[00:37:21] have, under Joe

[00:37:23] Biden, the Department

[00:37:24] of Homeland Security

[00:37:25] that have actually

[00:37:26] established what are

[00:37:27] called ICE-free zones.

[00:37:29] There are certain

[00:37:30] areas which prohibit

[00:37:33] ICE agents,

[00:37:34] immigration and

[00:37:35] custom enforcement

[00:37:36] agents, from engaging

[00:37:38] in any enforcement

[00:37:39] activity if it's near a

[00:37:41] school, a church, a

[00:37:43] doctor's office, or a

[00:37:44] so-called protected

[00:37:45] area.

[00:37:46] And just to give you

[00:37:47] one illustration,

[00:37:48] those of you looking

[00:37:49] online, this is the map

[00:37:51] of the so-called

[00:37:52] ICE-free zones in

[00:37:54] the Washington, D.C.

[00:37:56] area.

[00:37:56] If you're watching

[00:37:58] right now, you will

[00:37:58] see pink, and you

[00:38:00] can see that almost

[00:38:01] the entire area of

[00:38:03] Washington, D.C.

[00:38:04] is called an ICE-free

[00:38:06] zone.

[00:38:07] So you can begin to

[00:38:08] see that this is a

[00:38:10] problem that was

[00:38:11] created under the

[00:38:13] Biden administration

[00:38:14] to even prevent the

[00:38:15] possibility of

[00:38:16] deportation.

[00:38:18] The more you dig into

[00:38:19] this, the more you

[00:38:20] realize not only did

[00:38:21] we leave our border

[00:38:23] open, but also this

[00:38:25] administration did

[00:38:26] everything it could to

[00:38:28] prevent any kind of

[00:38:29] deportation, which is a

[00:38:31] stark contrast to what

[00:38:33] happened when Joe

[00:38:34] Biden was the vice

[00:38:35] president and Barack

[00:38:36] Obama was ridiculed by

[00:38:38] some of his liberal

[00:38:39] friends as being the

[00:38:40] deporter-in-chief.

[00:38:41] And a lot of that, I

[00:38:43] think, had to do with

[00:38:44] the fact that Democrats

[00:38:45] began to say, wait a

[00:38:46] minute, rather than

[00:38:47] deporting these people,

[00:38:48] let's have them stay.

[00:38:50] Yes, the unions are

[00:38:51] going to get upset

[00:38:52] because this is going

[00:38:53] to affect their jobs

[00:38:54] and their wages and

[00:38:56] things of that nature,

[00:38:57] but these are

[00:38:58] potential voters, so

[00:38:59] we're going to turn a

[00:39:00] blind eye to some of

[00:39:01] that.

[00:39:02] And, of course, then

[00:39:03] after immigration

[00:39:04] agents are free from

[00:39:06] some of these

[00:39:06] limitations, there's

[00:39:08] still the problem

[00:39:09] that many of these

[00:39:10] Department of

[00:39:11] Homeland Security

[00:39:12] detention centers

[00:39:13] were closed down by

[00:39:15] the Biden

[00:39:15] administration.

[00:39:17] they're going to

[00:39:17] have to be

[00:39:18] reopened.

[00:39:19] And the argument

[00:39:20] is this may be a

[00:39:21] place where the

[00:39:22] Department of Defense

[00:39:23] could have a role

[00:39:24] because if there's one

[00:39:25] thing the Defense

[00:39:26] Department usually is

[00:39:27] pretty good at, it's

[00:39:28] logistics, and

[00:39:29] detention is a

[00:39:30] logistics challenge, and

[00:39:33] that is the case.

[00:39:34] I thought I'd take on

[00:39:35] one other issue because

[00:39:36] near the end of the

[00:39:38] article, Mark

[00:39:39] Krikorian says that

[00:39:40] once this begins, we

[00:39:42] may have self-deportation.

[00:39:44] If there's one place

[00:39:46] where I get criticized,

[00:39:48] and it was good to

[00:39:49] find out that even

[00:39:50] Mitt Romney, when he

[00:39:51] was running for

[00:39:52] president, was

[00:39:53] ridiculed about

[00:39:55] self-deportation in

[00:39:56] 2012 because he

[00:39:58] argued that when this

[00:40:00] begins, when we start

[00:40:02] deporting individuals,

[00:40:04] then some individuals

[00:40:06] will say, I'd rather

[00:40:07] actually deport myself,

[00:40:10] get my affairs in order,

[00:40:12] and go back to my

[00:40:13] country of origin.

[00:40:14] Lest you think that's

[00:40:16] a small number, again,

[00:40:18] digging deeply into

[00:40:19] this, from 2011 to

[00:40:22] 2018, it looks like

[00:40:25] that more than 300,000

[00:40:26] immigrants were able

[00:40:28] to go home each year

[00:40:30] during that time, and

[00:40:32] so that is certainly

[00:40:34] the case.

[00:40:34] I found this article,

[00:40:36] this one's from

[00:40:37] Madeline Leisman,

[00:40:38] Remember those Haitian

[00:40:40] migrants in

[00:40:41] Springfield, Ohio?

[00:40:43] Well, it turns out the

[00:40:44] immigrants, mostly from

[00:40:45] Haitia, from Haiti, I

[00:40:48] should say Haitian, living

[00:40:49] in Springfield, Ohio, are

[00:40:51] leaving out of fear of

[00:40:52] deportation already,

[00:40:55] recognizing what will

[00:40:56] happen when President

[00:40:57] Elect Donald Trump

[00:40:58] takes office.

[00:40:59] One Haitian living there

[00:41:01] said that though this was

[00:41:03] supposed to be a

[00:41:04] temporary protected

[00:41:05] status, she personally

[00:41:07] knows of a number of

[00:41:08] friends and neighbors

[00:41:09] who have already left

[00:41:10] Springfield, Ohio,

[00:41:11] because after all, it's

[00:41:13] temporary.

[00:41:14] Temporary means

[00:41:15] temporary.

[00:41:16] Who knew?

[00:41:17] And so some of them are

[00:41:18] going back to Haiti in

[00:41:20] that regard.

[00:41:21] And of course, you've

[00:41:22] also had Tom Holman the

[00:41:24] other day saying, this

[00:41:25] was at the Republican

[00:41:26] Convention, I've got a

[00:41:27] message for the

[00:41:28] millions of illegal

[00:41:29] aliens that Joe Biden's

[00:41:31] released into this

[00:41:32] country in violation of

[00:41:33] federal law, you better

[00:41:34] start packing now.

[00:41:35] So even though some

[00:41:37] people have ridiculed

[00:41:38] this idea of self

[00:41:39] deportation, there

[00:41:41] turns out there's

[00:41:42] pretty good statistical

[00:41:43] evaluation to suggest

[00:41:45] that once that first

[00:41:47] bus leaves, once that

[00:41:48] first airplane of

[00:41:50] individuals takes off,

[00:41:52] there are going to be

[00:41:53] other people looking

[00:41:54] and saying, probably

[00:41:56] better for me to go

[00:41:57] back to my country of

[00:41:58] origin rather than to

[00:42:00] stay here.

[00:42:01] And in some cases,

[00:42:03] going back to your

[00:42:04] country of origin,

[00:42:05] actually might be

[00:42:07] better for those from,

[00:42:09] for example, El

[00:42:10] Salvador.

[00:42:11] El Salvador is not

[00:42:12] the country of violence

[00:42:14] that it was before

[00:42:15] because President

[00:42:15] Bukele has put so

[00:42:16] many of those gang

[00:42:18] leaders in prison.

[00:42:20] And actually, because

[00:42:22] of developing kind of a

[00:42:24] Bitcoin standard, the

[00:42:25] economy is doing

[00:42:26] relatively well.

[00:42:27] So for some, these

[00:42:28] temporary orders, maybe

[00:42:30] it's time to recognize

[00:42:32] those were temporary

[00:42:33] and to go back to your

[00:42:34] country of origin.

[00:42:36] A little more dangerous

[00:42:37] in Haiti, I'm not

[00:42:38] minimizing that, but it

[00:42:39] is interesting, the

[00:42:40] number that are starting

[00:42:41] to think about whether or

[00:42:42] not they want to engage

[00:42:43] in self-deportation.

[00:42:45] Anyway, you can read this

[00:42:46] article.

[00:42:47] It is 10 pages.

[00:42:48] You can print it out.

[00:42:49] Of course, my commentary

[00:42:50] yesterday will certainly

[00:42:52] come back to talk about

[00:42:53] this more in the future.

[00:42:54] That's all we have for

[00:42:55] today on Tuesday, November

[00:42:57] 26th.

[00:42:57] I want to thank Megan for

[00:42:58] help engineering the

[00:42:59] program.

[00:43:03] I know you'll want to

[00:43:03] join us tomorrow.

[00:43:04] We'll have a lot more

[00:43:05] to talk about right here

[00:43:06] on Point of View.

[00:43:10] It almost seems like we

[00:43:12] live in a different

[00:43:12] world from many people

[00:43:14] in positions of

[00:43:15] authority.

[00:43:16] They say men can be

[00:43:18] women and women men.

[00:43:19] People are prosecuted

[00:43:21] differently or not at

[00:43:22] all, depending on their

[00:43:23] politics.

[00:43:25] Criminals are more

[00:43:26] valued and rewarded than

[00:43:28] law-abiding citizens.

[00:43:29] It's so overwhelming,

[00:43:31] so demoralizing.

[00:43:32] You feel like giving up,

[00:43:34] but we can't.

[00:43:35] We shouldn't.

[00:43:36] We must not.

[00:43:38] As Winston Churchill

[00:43:39] said to Britain in the

[00:43:40] darkest days of World War

[00:43:42] II, never give in.

[00:43:44] Never give in.

[00:43:45] Never, never, never.

[00:43:46] Never yield to force.

[00:43:48] Never yield to the

[00:43:49] apparently overwhelming

[00:43:51] might of the enemy.

[00:43:52] And that's what we say

[00:43:54] to you today.

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[00:44:06] help, we will overcome

[00:44:08] the darkness.

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