Point of View May 7, 2026 – Hour 2 : National Day of Prayer

[00:00:04] Across America, Live, this is Point of View, Kerby Anderson. Second hour today we'll get into some of the issues in the news and then William Federer, our good friend, will join us and we'll talk about prayers and president.

[00:00:28] And if you are not participating in a National Day of Prayer, and I hope that you are, then I hope you at least would be individually praying for America. If you have not signed up for our Pray for America newsletter that we send out, actually it's an email we send out once a week, you should go to the website right now, pointofview.net, right hand column, scroll down, you'll see Pray for America, and to subscribe. And the one today, as you might imagine, is on the National Day of Prayer.

[00:00:56] But we provide you a prayer target every single week. And again, that is something that Liberty McArtor puts together and we certainly encourage you to pray for this country, pray for those people in positions of leadership, pray for the military while we're in the midst especially of a war with Iran, pray for our leaders. There's a lot of prayer targets and so that is certainly the case. Let me just mention that tomorrow we're going to have Holly Randall and Aaron Smith with us in studio.

[00:01:25] We're going to talk first about some of the first liberty cases, the one in which you had Washington schools, which had tremendous hostility towards a release time program so people can study the Bible. And some of the comments being made just are hard to believe, but nevertheless, that's the world we find ourselves in.

[00:01:46] Also, they will be with us talking about the presidential task force to try to eliminate some of the anti-Christian bias that is at least in the federal government. We'll talk about where that some of them came from. And also a very good piece that John's Stone Street talked about Colorado and the courts. Colorado always seems to be in constitutional trouble.

[00:02:08] You heard a good friend Lathan Watts say, we've had so many cases that have come out of the state of Colorado that ended up on the Supreme Court that they're thinking of putting an express lane from Colorado to the Supreme Court. And here is just another example of that. We'll get into some other issues, not the least of which is Jonathan Haidt, who's been on the program with us before, is not a conservative, not a Christian.

[00:02:32] I think he'd admit that, although he's been on the program with us, points out that right-wing parents end up having much happier children and much more well-adjusted children than left-wing parents, which really doesn't surprise me. But nevertheless, that is the case. And proving once again that we cover every issue, there is this report right now that some U.S. officials have briefed pastors about an announcement coming in the future about UFOs.

[00:03:02] And so it's been a while since we've talked about UFOs, but we will get into that tomorrow as well. So just a good illustration of the kinds of topics that we will be addressing tomorrow. And with that as background, you might think, well, what are we going to address right now? Well, let's come back to some of the conversation we had with Marcy just a minute ago, because my first article is by Sean Derns. And it is entitled, America 250, America Has Been Blessed With Great Leaders.

[00:03:31] Now, he mostly focuses up to about World War II. And I've heard a lot of historians say that it's almost unreasonable and maybe even inappropriate to talk about heroes until maybe 100 years has passed, because I would certainly put at least Ronald Reagan in the category. But I understand why he stops basically with Franklin Delano Roosevelt. It doesn't mention Harry Truman.

[00:03:56] But nevertheless, let's go through this real quickly, because first of all, he talks about the fact that we've been blessed with some great leaders. And even George Washington thought about that. He penned a letter to one of his generals. That was Thomas Nelson during the height of the Revolutionary War, in which he said the hand of Providence has been so conspicuous in all of this.

[00:04:17] And he talked about the fact that here you had this ragtag bunch of militia, upstart colonists taking on the world's greatest military power. Victory was far from certain. And the odds were really stacked against them. And yet they won. And then what happened? At the war's end, George Washington resigned his commission and left the field.

[00:04:43] And he decided to relinquish power, return to his farm in Mount Vernon. And when his, if you will, one-time opponent, King George III, heard that, he said to his astonishment, if he does that, he will be the greatest man in the world. Because George Washington could have ruled. He could have become another king in some respects. But he recognized that's not what we needed.

[00:05:07] And we first had this collection of colonies, which eventually required us to put together a constitution to actually bring the nation together. And Washington, George Washington was different. And our founding fathers were different as well. One way that Sean Derns explains that is to do a comparison or a contrast between the American Revolution and, of course, the French Revolution.

[00:05:35] Now, Edmund Burke does the same. But here, mere years after George Washington's victory, the French Revolution, he reminds us, led to the guillotine and decades of warfare and internal strife. No fewer than 16,000 people were executed during this 10-month reign of terror. During the break, we were talking about Les Mis. So there you can kind of get back to that experience there as well.

[00:06:02] And just a reminder that most revolutions have not ended well. He reminds us that, you know, you've had a Mexican Revolution, a Russian Revolution, a China Revolution, a Cuba Revolution, even an Iranian Revolution. Guess what? They did not end well. They ended with a lot of bloodshed. And so, if nothing else, that was the case.

[00:06:24] Well, he goes on to say that by any metric, the United States was profoundly blessed to have men that we had at the time that were uniquely, and he says, supremely gifted. I mentioned that with Marcy when we were going through her book on the 250 Great Things About America because he says, for example, has any nation ever had a more eloquent wordsmith than Thomas Jefferson or a more skilled diplomat than Benjamin Franklin

[00:06:53] or a more brilliant political theorist than James Madison. He says these men were geniuses. And in some respects, we have to recognize how fortunate we were to have them because France got their Robespierre and Napoleon Bonaparte. Russia got its Lenin and Stalin. And we really, as he said, avoided their fate.

[00:07:19] Bringing it up a little bit more to the Civil War, of course, you had America with Abraham Lincoln at its helm. And Lincoln at one point wrote, I claim not to have controlled events but confess plainly that events have controlled me. He says he felt like he was at the mercy of a higher power, the Almighty, and remarked that he has his own purposes.

[00:07:44] And we've already talked a little bit about the Civil War, the Emancipation Proclamation, much more. Real quickly, Teddy Roosevelt was an asthmatic, self-styled cowboy, buoyant to privilege in New York, but rose to, first of all, be the Assistant Secretary of the Navy, President of the United States. His distant cousin, Franklin D. Roosevelt, was an individual born to wealth, crippled by polio, but brought us through World War II.

[00:08:12] And his successor, Harry Truman, was a failed haberdasher from Missouri who never attended college, did not plan to enter national politics, but helped us deal with the nuclear armed superpower of the Soviet Union. I think, if nothing else, the United States has been blessed with great leaders. And when we talk about 250 great things about America, maybe we should talk about some of the people that have been our leaders in the past.

[00:08:40] And that's why we need to pray for our leaders today, right here on the National Day of Prayer. We'll be right back. This is Viewpoints with Kerby Anderson. Dr. Roy Epan is a practicing endocrinologist

[00:09:09] and also served as the Assistant Professor of Medicine at McGill University. He recently wrote that the transgender house of cards just came crashing down. He begins by declaring that the child sex change industry is built on a foundation of falsehoods.science. Activists argue that gender-confused children will do better mentally if given hormones and irreversible surgeries. He points to a groundbreaking study that proves that sex change treatments don't improve children's mental health. The study is not the first to reach this conclusion,

[00:09:38] but it is difficult to dismiss since the researchers are from Finland. This country is one of the first to embrace sex changes for children. It is difficult to dismiss this study also because the researchers analyzed over two decades of real-world data, not hypothetical situations. It isn't some partisan study with anti-trans agenda. It is an honest examination of the evidence. The conclusion is simple. These sex change modifications and surgeries do not improve a child's mental health.

[00:10:07] In fact, they make the mental issues worse. Whether you're a doctor or not, I think you can see that children need treatment that might alleviate their mental health challenges. They need therapy and treatment that can help them come to terms with who they really are. These sex change treatments do just the opposite. It forces them to become something that is biologically opposite of who they are. The doctor also hopes that the professional societies, such as the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Endocrine Society, see the light.

[00:10:35] These two societies were two of the earliest proponents of sex changes for children, but now the transgender house of cards has fallen. I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view. Go deeper on topics like you just heard by visiting pointofview.net. That's pointofview.net.

[00:11:01] You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. Bottom of the hour, we're going to be talking with our good friend William Federer. He's written a book called Prayers and Presidents, so we're going to talk about the National Day of Prayer, talk about the importance of praying for those in leadership, and even some of the prayers that presidents in the past have actually provided to the nation. So we'll talk about that in just a few minutes. But I thought before we do so, I would maybe point you back to something we talked about yesterday.

[00:11:30] We had this particular piece that I posted by Heather McDonald at the Manhattan Institute, which had the very arresting title, The New York Times' Latte Logic of Social Collapse. Now, in some respects, these next two articles fit very well. One about this idea of vigilantism. The other about what's going on in The New York Times. But it's interesting because, in some respects, she's pointing out that there was this video that The New York Times posted.

[00:12:00] They normally do print, but they did a video roundtable discussion, which I think illustrated only so well the rather despicable, degraded, immoral, so-called moral code that a lot of young people have bought into. And a good illustration of that comes from my piece that Noah Rothman has posted, of the torching of Los Angeles was anti-capitalist vigilantism.

[00:12:27] Of course, as you well know, we had a situation in 2025 in January in which you had the fires that burned down all sorts of homes and killed individuals in the Palisade fires. He says, among the many things progressives would like to forget about in terms of the moral panic they succumbed to in the summer of 2020 is the extent to which they were willing to excuse property destruction.

[00:12:57] And we see some of that even in the video that Heather McDonald was talking about and we talked about yesterday. For example, one of the authors of The New York Times said, destroying property which can be replaced is not violence. Oh, unless it's yours, I guess. One with the New Yorker said, to use the same language to describe these two things is not moral. In other words, it's one thing to destroy property or vandalize it or even destroy it.

[00:13:25] It's quite another to kill a person. Well, I agree. But to say that it is that different and that there is nothing wrong with that. And then again, the CEO of NPR, Catherine Mayer, said the other day, that can be rebuilt. Target can reopen. Sure, looting is counterproductive, but it's hard to be mad about protests that are prioritizing private property as a system of oppression founded on treating people's ancestors as private property.

[00:13:53] Okay, so there has been a lot that's justified actually tearing down anything. Could be statues. It could be vandalism. It could be looting. And we, of course, saw some of that yesterday in the roundtable discussion, which is in the video, The Rich Don't Play by the Rules. And ultimately, the argument is, well, micro-looting, that's just fine. Well, it turns out that this 30-year-old who's been accused of igniting

[00:14:23] these Pacific Palisade fires back in January 2025, in which you had at least a dozen people, so first of all, notice that, and over 16,000 structures, churches, homes, fire station, police stations, all sorts of things, various restaurants destroyed or damaged. And according to the prosecutors, he was inspired by some of the same ideas

[00:14:53] and sentiments that animated the mobs of 2020. He is actually portrayed in a memorandum as a lonely and erratic man who was angry at the world, particularly angry at the rich. This comes, of course, to the New York Times. And this accused arsonist was reportedly inspired by the actions of Luigi Mangione, the one that actually killed the United Health Care CEO, Brian Thompson,

[00:15:23] which had happened just weeks earlier. Of course, we talked about that yesterday. And so, again, in the wake of the shooting, this individual, who's on trial right now, has been a folk hero for individuals. You've seen signs free, Luigi Mangione, let's take down all the billionaires, on and on and on and on and on. And in some respects, the argument is, well, it's okay because you can rebuild these structures.

[00:15:51] And I love what Noah Rothman says. He says, when you look at the degree of mismanagement, which has typified the so-called rebuilding process in the Pacific Palisades, what we are finding right now is they're not being rebuilt due to all sorts of things. You can talk about the insurance agents and the industry and all sorts of various kinds of,

[00:16:19] various rules, regulations, permitting, and all the rest, which were all there. So, if nothing else, a very significant illustration of the mindset that said, well, I'm angry with the rich, so I'll burn down their houses. And that's, of course, what's going on right now with this individual, who, of course, not only burned down all those structures, but also ended up killing a number of people. The other part of that, of course, is the New York Times.

[00:16:50] What is going on there? This one comes from another individual, Jeff Ingersoll. He says, look, I hate predictions, and even as I am a terminal optimist, I hate to say this, but the New York Times is dead to rights cooked. It has to do with the fact that the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which is called the EEOC, is suing the New York Times for workplace discrimination. A current employee of the New York Times

[00:17:18] said that, indeed, working with administration lawyers on a suit charging the paper as racist is against white men because that's not wrong, he says, because racism is part of our employment policy. And, first of all, Jeff Ingersoll says, that is completely illegal, and it has been for decades. But, nevertheless, he says, elites will be shocked to learn that civil rights law

[00:17:48] is totally neutral and applies also to white men and even to Christians, some of which we'll talk about tomorrow with our two guests from First Liberty Institute. Now, interestingly enough, Jeff Ingersoll puts it this way, quote, the suit shows that the New York Times tracked race, sex, and sexual persuasion with literal Nazi-like accuracy year over year for nearly a decade. The paper also pregged actual performance compensation to the hiring

[00:18:17] of certain kinds of individuals. Hire a white man, no bonus. Hire a black Latinx transgender, you get a bonus. What's more, internal messages confirm leadership had moments of panic about their progress. Totally illegal, done with complete and utter confidence, he says. He says, I know that you've heard it's bad to take notes on criminal conspiracy. Imagine proudly publishing those notes in a yearly report

[00:18:47] that came out from the New York Times. And one of the lines he uses there is very good. Jeff Ingersoll says, it's not the evil man you really have to worry about, dear reader. It's the misled, ignorant, and self-righteous that do the real damage. There's a famous quote from C.S. Lewis saying that sometimes it's not the evil person that does evil, it's the person who thinks they are doing you right things by doing evil actions. But nevertheless, that is the case.

[00:19:16] Anyway, if that's not bad enough, George Ingersoll goes on to say, in response to this mountain of self-made, self-published, self-promoted evidence, the New York Times did what liberals are quite famous for doing nowadays, pointed directly at it and said, it doesn't exist. Here's one of their lines. Again, I'll give you the chance to hear what the New York Times said. Quote, the New York Times said, our employment practices are merit-based

[00:19:45] and focuses on recruiting and promoting the base talent in the world. We will defend ourselves rigorously. Let's hope so. Because if you go on a little bit longer, now the case because of suit goes to what's called discovery. And the case, if indeed it goes to discovery, means that all sorts of other internal communications are likely to surface. And as he says,

[00:20:15] this is a thread that might pull the whole house down. Well, nothing else more intriguing right now than the New York Times, which is supposed to be the journal and the paper of record, but nevertheless finds itself in a lawsuit right now with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission finding out that they have for years, doesn't surprise too many of us, that they tracked race, sex, and sexual perversion with an accuracy

[00:20:45] that might even make the Nazi Gestapo blush with maybe some kind of shock. And if nothing else, they're now going to court. And, well, before they go to court, they go to discovery. And that's probably going to surface a whole lot more, which I think most of us pretty much suspected because of all these woke ideas, but now we have the evidence of it. Anyway, it's our next article on the website, pointofview.net.

[00:21:14] You can read all of the statements back and forth being made, and I think you can come to your own conclusion, but I think you would have to say that the EOC has quite a case, and we'll probably be talking about it a lot more in the future. But let's take a break. We'll come back and learn more about prayer on this National Day of Prayer right after this. Have you ever met a child you knew would do great things? They displayed remarkable imagination, understanding, and a zest for learning. Often someone

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[00:23:11] or staff of this station. And now, here again, is Kirby Anderson. Back once again, we're going to spend a few minutes and a moment to talk with William Federer, but while we do so, let's again acknowledge that it is this National Day of Prayer. Really has been a vital part of the American heritage as I've mentioned before and I even recorded some of that for some of the radio stations that the first real call for prayer happened in 1775 even before we had

[00:23:40] the Declaration of Independence. It's when the Continental Congress gathered together to pray for wisdom and that is well documented. It's a fascinating story and there is a great painting that actually covers that as well. And of course, we've had all sorts of calls for prayer from George Washington to, of course, Abraham Lincoln all the way to the present. I thought for just a minute while we're waiting to connect up with William Federer, I'd talk a little bit about the fact that we have this opportunity

[00:24:10] back in 1863 when President Abraham Lincoln called for a day of humiliation, fasting, and prayer and it's a very long piece but let me just quote it very quickly and then we'll get to William Federer. He says, We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of heaven. We have been preserved these many years in peace and prosperity. We've grown in numbers, wealth and power as no other nation has ever grown

[00:24:40] but we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us and we have vainly imagined in the deceitfulness of our hearts that all these blessings were produced virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace too proud

[00:25:10] to pray to the God that made us. And just a reminder that in this particular time of a National Day of Prayer 1952 Harry Truman actually signed a resolution declaring a Day of Prayer 1988 Ronald Reagan established that the first Thursday in May would be a time of a National Day of Prayer. And so let's if we can go to our good friend William Federer best-selling author nationally known thinking all the way back to one of the first times we ever interviewed him

[00:25:39] with his book America's God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations more than a half a million copies of that book is out there probably know him as well not only from the speaking he's done over these years but also his radio feature American Minute and of course we have a link to that website. Bill Federer welcome back to Point of View. Well hey Kirby it's great to be with you and thank you for being such a leader for so many years you're just a tremendous encouragement to me. Well let's if we can just for a minute

[00:26:09] before I get into some of the prayers because we of course have a link to your particular piece on prayers and the president just reflect on the fact that really since the beginning we've seen how God has used you now you have more than I think two dozen books I noticed the other day that Prager you has you speaking all over the country and so from kind of the humble desire to really educate people about America's heritage look at where you are now and I think

[00:26:39] it's a great testimony to God's graciousness in your life. Well God is faithful and Point of View radio talk show for years I would tune in and hear Marlon Maddox and you and so many speakers and they gave me a great education taking what somebody that had thought oh everything's fine in the world too uh oh there's people with ill intent and if we

[00:27:09] sit back and don't get involved they're going to take away our freedoms and so I want to thank you but yes for 30 years now I've been writing and speaking I did run for Congress a few times in there uh didn't win but came closed but I got a good baptism by fire into how the political world works and um and then gee I was telling somebody in 2014 I uh had a 19 year old warm up speaker in Robinson Illinois at a civic center

[00:27:38] and uh and his name was Charlie Kirk and so we became friends and he would text me history questions and say tell me about Islam tell me about socialism tell me about the Christian history of America and I would text himself I mean he's a 19 year old what do I say you know and but it's over the years he could and I was like wow here he is impacting the world and you know friends with Trump and and um but he would still text me all the time he even text me the day before he was shot he's got a scripture in 1st Corinthians 16 9 there's a wide door for effective ministry open

[00:28:08] but there are many adversaries and I was with him four days before he was shot in Seoul Korea and I was the warm up speaker for him talk about full circle but um you know you just uh take every person you talk to you have to realize that they're important and and with that attitude you can see um you know what little contributions that we make and how they can have a long lasting effect to try to bring America back to this godly heritage heritage

[00:28:37] and that's what uh the national day of prayer is about and that like those you were reading from from Lincoln and and so forth let me just mention again we have a link to Americanminute.com and even though you're up with the big leagues now with prayer you and everything else you are still quite available to come and speak to local communities and I would encourage you to go there click on that button that says contact find out a little bit more and a way in which you can donate to your ministry but also let's if we can talk

[00:29:07] about the fact that we've also posted information about your book prayers and presidents inspiring faith from leaders of the past now I kind of jumped ahead to Abraham Lincoln but maybe we should also mention George Washington because he actually had orders for the troops to attend services and even Thomas Jefferson who candidly could not sign the doctrinal statement of our churches nevertheless attended those worship services at the capital so give us some

[00:29:37] of the history for just a few minutes because this idea of a national day of prayer goes all the way back to the 17th century doesn't it right so the pilgrims come across and then you would have the different colonies especially in New England would actually have days of prayer days of fasting and prayer usually on a good Friday and then days of Thanksgiving one is there was a famine and they have a day of fasting and then a ship pulls into the harbor filled full of supplies and they say

[00:30:06] cancel the fasting wherever and it's a day of Thanksgiving and it was this idea that God heard our prayer so they were not deists a classical deists is somebody that believes God made the world like a watchmaker makes a watch and winds it up and then goes away and yeah he made it but he's not involved no they believed that you could pray and God would intervene and then you get into the revolutionary era and on May 17th of 1776 they have a day of prayer and that's why we're

[00:30:36] re-celebrating it on May 17th and then you have through the merits and mediation of Jesus Christ after the battle of Saratoga through the merits and mediation of the Jesus Christ after the Benedict Arnold's plot was discovered they said that the liberties of America are the object of divine protection and and that the gospel shall go forth into all the world and so then you have the same

[00:31:05] week that they passed the First Amendment and the Bill of Rights the Congress has a day of prayer and Thanksgiving and then you have a whiskey rebellion and you know Washington has another day of prayer and then Adams has two days of fasting and prayer during a threatened war with France and this is during the French infidelities coming across into the campuses of America and you have all these skeptics and so forth but that at the same time you have the Second Great

[00:31:35] Awakening revival and camp meetings and so forth so then you have a the British burning the White House War of 1812 James Madison has a day of fasting and prayer and then even you have Barbary pirate wars during the terms of you know both Jefferson and Madison but then you have the cholera epidemic 1849 and 150,000 Americans died of cholera and the president Zachary

[00:32:04] Taylor has a day of fasting and prayer and James Buchanan had one before the Civil War Lincoln had two and you read from the one is so powerful and then you know when Woodrow Wilson had a day of fasting and prayer when we entered World War I in 1918 and he passed out New Testaments and he wrote the foreword he says the Bible is the word of life I pray that you read it and find this out for yourselves and then Franklin

[00:32:34] Roosevelt passed out Gideon's New Testaments by the millions and then he had a D-Day prayer a little trivia on this is I send out history emails yes and I want to encourage people to subscribe to him by the way yeah oh thank you I appreciate that and so Chris Long of the Ohio Christian Alliance had gotten the one on you know World War II and I just made a mention at the end that this beautiful World War II memorial had

[00:33:03] zero reference to God and one of them they didn't even have the quote that we it says we will gain the inevitable victory period I said well wait a second you read the it says we'll gain the inevitable victory so help us God period they just and so Chris Long went to his congressman Bill Johnson Senator Rob Portman got them to put forth a bill and it passed and then they spent 10 years raising money because the state government wouldn't pay anything that had to do with prayer so he had to raise two million dollars and they took

[00:33:33] Franklin's D-Day prayer and they put it on a bronze plaque called the Circle of Remembrance and it's 50 yards from the World War II remorse the only place on the Washington Mall dedicated to a prayer we're going to take a break and continue all these great insights right after these important messages you're listening to Point of View your

[00:34:02] listener supported source for truth back for a few more minutes with William Federer let me again point you to the website American Minute and we have that on our website also his book Prayers and President and many of the other books and Bill just for a minute you said in passing but it's worth coming back to we're going to have this special Rededicate 250 a national jubilee of prayer praise and thanksgiving this takes place on May 17th and as you pointed out that goes back

[00:34:32] to that prayer that took place in 1776 on May 17th and you have all sorts of people from the Speaker of the House and the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of State and all sorts of former cabinet members a veritable who's who of pastors most of whom we've interviewed on this program military bands and all sorts of other things so that is going to be a very significant event as well and Robert Jeffers the other day said

[00:35:02] he thinks it could be one of the most significant religious outreaches and outpourings in the last 50 years what are your thoughts well I agree with Pastor Robert Jeffries and he's a great leader I just really respect him but this is something that I've never seen before I mean to have such leadership and it's I remember when President Bush was in and he would make a reference to a scripture all the Christians would be like oh look at this

[00:35:31] but I mean we're seeing you know I was at Charlie Kirk's memorial and to have Rubio giving the gospel message and then Hegseth and you know the vice president and it's like you know there's evil but when you realize that God seems to wait until things look hopeless and then he raises up little nobodies with faith and courage to do big things and in Gideon's case God made the odds look even worse telling everybody that's scared to go home and whittles it down to 300

[00:36:01] so we can't be afraid when things in the world look bad it's God positioning it for people to turn to him and rise up in faith and courage and I think we're seeing that in America well Ian you mentioned Charlie Kirk or we can talk about the fact that on our next generation round table often times we talk about generation Y and generation C I don't want to overplay that as we put in one of our outlook magazines maybe rumblings of a revival nothing quite like the first or second great awakening

[00:36:31] but give us some history in that regard because the first great awakening where you of course just mentioned earlier George Whitfield and of course Jonathan Edwards second great awakening whether it's Finney or a variety of others all the way down to D.L. Moody we've had some times of very significant religious revival and you've studied that as well haven't you yeah two things that seem to go along with revival one is there always this is the preaching

[00:37:00] of the law before people see their need for the lamb so the first great awakening Jonathan Edwards his famous sermon was what sinners in the hands of an angry God in other words God is just we've said we deserve judgment ah we need help okay here's help Jesus he took the judgment in your place and it's like thank God for Jesus right so if you just preach oh God loves you God loves you God loves you it's like oh fine God loves me it's like no no God loves you but he's also just he gives consent

[00:37:30] to sin he's denying a just nature and you know at a wedding ceremony if you're silent you're giving your consent so if there's sins and God's not judging them he's giving their consent his consent to sin and he can't do that he has to judge and so that's where the gospel is that Jesus took the judgment in our place and so and then Finney was the same way that he preaches that you know this that God is just but the second thing is there's always a crisis there's times a crisis that people turn to Christ so the first great awakening you had the

[00:38:00] French and Indian War second great awakening you had this threatened war with France and then you had the war of 1812 right and then prior to the civil war we have what's the 1857 layman's prayer revival this was spontaneous Jeremy Lanphier who had gone to Charles Finney's church in New York there's an economic downturn and 10,000 people out of work and he puts a sign in front of his store come in at noon and pray and maybe like one or two people come in next week as a dozen

[00:38:30] next week 20 next week before you know it he's got hundreds and then they make it daily and then it's not just in New York but it's in Philadelphia and Boston and Chicago and New Orleans and Los Angeles and it's spreading across the country and nobody's planning it it's just spontaneous so that's when D.L. Moody who was a shoe salesman in Chicago he not only gets saved and turned on to the Lord he goes to the YMCA and they make him a city missionary of course they don't pay him

[00:39:00] but he sees an abandoned saloon and decides to open up a bible study for children little street kids you know and immigrants and he can barely read somebody visits it and says I saw him holding a black boy by a candle and he's trying to read the story of the prodigal son and he says he couldn't even pronounce the words and this guy said if God can use deal Moody he can use anybody and so deal Moody was good at recruiting people and within a year he had

[00:39:29] 60 teachers teaching 600 kids and within two years he had 1500 kids and then 1860 Lincoln gets elected president and he travels from Springfield Illinois to Chicago on his way to D.C. well he stops off at deal Moody Sunday school class and he's sitting there with the students could you imagine that and then after the class he says well Mr. President anything you want to tell these kids he goes yes I started off as poor as any one of you in here and if you do what that man tells you someday you might even be president and

[00:40:20] as people but it's in these times of crises that people turn to Christ I'm almost out of time and I wanted to do a couple things first of all people just have to say I

[00:40:49] on this National Day of Prayer or any other time, if people would like to have you come and speak, you're available. And so how can people schedule you to come and tell these stories, which I think our young generation really needs to hear again? Oh, well, thank you. Yeah, almost every Sunday I'm speaking at another church. I think I have one Sunday left in August open, but then all the way through October.

[00:41:14] However, my wife had heard me when I first did the Prayers and Presidents book. She goes, well, what happened after they prayed? I said, that's a good question. So we worked together and came up with a couple of books called Miracles in American History. So this is the answers to the prayers. You know, the Oliver Hazard, Madison had a day of prayer on September 9th of 1813. Well, September 10th is when Oliver Hazard Perry wins the Battle of Lake Erie, which gives us the land out of which six states came out of.

[00:41:42] But, I mean, it's like one day after, and then I could go on and on. But Miracles in American History, but these are topics that I love talking about, and I would be happy to come to any church or group. I do a lot of Turning Point events. I do actually a weekly video for turningpointed.com called How We Got Here. But it's always an honor to be on with you, Kirby, and you have been such a champion for decades.

[00:42:10] I mean, I think I first met you, and it was probably back in the early 1990s, and you've always been an encouragement to me. And, again, a point-of-view radio talk show was one of the first radio programs I did an interview with after writing my first book. So I'm indebted to you. Well, again, let me encourage you to go to AmericanMinute.com. You also can see Miracles in American History, Volume 1, 2, 3, and 4,

[00:42:39] so you can kind of see what you might be able to schedule in your own church or in your own civic group. So, Bill Federer, thank you so very much for joining us today on this National Day of Prayer. We're just about out of time, so let me just mention real quickly that, again, we're still making available the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. You can find out about that by going to the website pointofview.net. Of course, you can find out more about both of our guests today. Enjoy this National Day of Prayer. Pray for this country. We'll see you back here tomorrow right here on Point of View.

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