Point of View May 3, 2024 – Hour 2 : Weekend Edition

[00:00:04] and now Kirby Anderson. Second hour today if you'd like to join the conversation. 1-800-351-1212.

[00:00:24] Penedexter Kelly Shackleford, let me just mention some of the articles we've mentioned so far.

[00:00:29] Rules for Campus Radicals which I think is just a turn of phrase of a Saul Alinsky one.

[00:00:34] Also one which we'll get to in a few minutes, victim larping and other progressive fads. You

[00:00:39] might say what is larping? LARPING stands for Live Action Role Playing. Those are usually ones that

[00:00:47] stress up as Star Wars figures or something like that. So we'll get to that in just a minute.

[00:00:51] But Penn I want to come to you but I thought I'd just mentioned that the question that we

[00:00:56] also want to address is how to respond. The president of Northwestern went in and gave

[00:01:01] into all of the demands. Now if you've seen some of the demands, I read some of those earlier in

[00:01:06] the week when they were at Columbia demands for global intifada, a complete divestment of any

[00:01:14] military activity, a divestment from any corporation that even does business with Israel which would

[00:01:22] be Google that fired some of their people and then they were asking for free food. It had to

[00:01:27] be vegan and gluten-free. You can't make it up. I mean, I'm sure this has to be Babylon B kind of

[00:01:37] stuff. Anyway the president of Northwestern gave into that and of course that's very different than

[00:01:43] say you and I grew up around Ronald Reagan being governor going into UC Berkeley bringing in the

[00:01:49] National Guard or even more recently just down the road here in the University of Texas at

[00:01:54] Austin. The governor said you know what I think it's time to clear some of these people out so

[00:01:58] it depends if you're in red state or a blue state whether or not the president wants to go along with

[00:02:02] these demands some of which are just incredible or whether or not they want to take some action but

[00:02:07] you've said something that we haven't really gotten to and that is this if it is coordinated

[00:02:12] almost seems like a training session right? It does and there's materials that are training

[00:02:18] materials and so you've got these these groups and I mean I've got a list of a few of

[00:02:23] the groups like if not now yes is a group that received 400,000 from Open Society which is Soros's

[00:02:29] group there's another one Adula Justice Project 550,000 from Rockefeller Brothers Fund. I mean

[00:02:36] the list goes on so they have these revel they're revolutionary they have these revolutionary

[00:02:42] materials so definitely you know combining with the students who've already been taught some of

[00:02:46] these ideas you have that going on you have the tents and the tents in themselves are sort

[00:02:52] of an act of war because you're taking up space that doesn't belong to you I mean it's like almost

[00:02:57] an invasion into the university if you won't ever leave or go home but you're in a tent then you

[00:03:03] know that again is it escalates things and so you know the school should not be allowing

[00:03:10] people to have tents all night anywhere they shouldn't because I mean that would really help

[00:03:16] if they if they would stop that or just just pick up those tents and throw them away

[00:03:22] it also makes it more oh also forcing out the police making it impossible for the police to come

[00:03:27] in and to control things and some of these outsiders they know how to do that I mean they

[00:03:32] have practiced in doing that they've been doing in other venues over the decades so force out

[00:03:37] the police then they have these protest guides as we mentioned and special materials all kinds of

[00:03:43] materials plywood and pieces of metal and they noticed the University of Texas when they cleared

[00:03:49] it out which they did very quickly there were rocks just rocks you know what are rocks used for it's

[00:03:55] used for battle for hurting people so so you know if these schools allow this to continue

[00:04:04] and go on I mean you know who knows what this country is going to be like and the other part

[00:04:09] of this is I've seen now parents across the country are asking for refunds yeah and there's

[00:04:15] just parents their kids may not are probably not involved in this but their kids can't get to class

[00:04:20] or it's dangerous for their children or you know their kids are Jewish and they're being pushed

[00:04:26] out to the edges of the campus or told to go home so you know tuition is like you know 50 to

[00:04:33] 90 thousand dollars a year at some of these places yeah I want to come to Kelly because

[00:04:38] we've got the statement also about the civil rights and the issues there as well but at UCLA you can't

[00:04:44] go in certain doors you go into Jewish doors and I jokingly said no word is to a lot whether or

[00:04:51] not they also have Jewish fountains now because I mean this as you said if this was black the

[00:04:58] civil rights division of the justice department would be on this at a moment and yet it just shows

[00:05:04] the tolerance for anti-Semitism when you are now telling Jewish students you cannot come in this

[00:05:09] door but we have a special door for you on the back well which is what we used to do during

[00:05:14] segregation and Jim Crow and they're being attacked I mean there's numerous examples of

[00:05:18] them being attacked and I think this is very revealing because when Merrick Garland the attorney

[00:05:28] general was came into office he has spoken about his number one thing was going to be the civil

[00:05:36] rights division and defending civil rights he also has talked very emotionally about

[00:05:45] the Holocaust about his Jewish relatives and what happened to them and a strong commitment to that so

[00:05:53] this is a personal thing this idea of being against and I mean I don't like Garland for a lot

[00:05:59] of reasons as far as what he's done I think he's been incredibly weak and not defended people's

[00:06:05] rights at times but I'll give him credit that I think he is against anti-Semitism

[00:06:14] well if all he has to do to open investigation is you know talk to the people and the U.S.

[00:06:23] Attorney there and say let's open investigation but there's one step besides what he can do

[00:06:29] there's just one step you go to the White House counsel also so what do you think's happened

[00:06:35] here but White House has said no we're not going to open a civil rights investigation so this

[00:06:42] this I think lands right on the step of the president of the United States and the White

[00:06:48] House counsel because anybody knows you would open a civil rights investigation when there's a

[00:06:55] clear attempt it's not just one campus it's all over the country against Jewish students

[00:07:02] and they've done nothing so to me that that tells you a lot and it also tells you that

[00:07:08] Merrick Garland is weak I mean any attorney general a worth or weight and sought I mean you know look

[00:07:16] people might not like Bill Barr but you know what when Trump said something that he disagreed with

[00:07:21] he didn't like bow down and you know cower he spoke out said he's wrong you know I'm in charge of

[00:07:30] following the law and I don't care what you know I mean they could fire me but Merrick Garland

[00:07:36] doesn't do that and so this is another sad example just like when they were violating federal law

[00:07:43] outside of Supreme Court justices homes and there was even an attempt on the life of Kavanaugh

[00:07:51] and no enforcement by DOJ and the attorney general's in charge of that so this is

[00:07:58] this is a clear example of every there would be so many civil rights investigations opened

[00:08:05] if this was anything other than Jewish and an extreme progressive constituency that President Biden

[00:08:15] wants to vote for him this is really disgraceful from a legal standpoint let's take a break when

[00:08:20] we come back we'll take some phone calls if you want to join us 1-800-351-1212 many of the

[00:08:25] other articles though I do want to get to is just the whole idea of what is unfolding right

[00:08:32] before our very eyes and of course we were hoping we would maybe have don sweeten with us we have

[00:08:37] posted his article about free speech on campus is not absolute where do we draw the line between

[00:08:43] you know freedom of speech freedom of assembly and when that crosses the line we'll get into

[00:08:48] that right after this this is viewpoints with Kirby Anderson you know government gets

[00:09:03] bigger each year but how government gets bigger isn't so easy to understand there seems

[00:09:08] to be about the same number of federal employees but the size and scope of government continues to

[00:09:12] grow john deylio writes about this in his book and scholarly paper at the brookings institution

[00:09:18] government grows larger by using three types of administrative proxies the first are state

[00:09:23] and local governments the epa for example has fewer than 20 000 employees but 90 percent of

[00:09:29] epa programs are completely administered by thousands of state government employees largely funded

[00:09:34] by washington second there are for profit businesses and contractors that also mass the

[00:09:40] large size of the government in the defense department for example the hundreds of thousands

[00:09:45] of civilian workers have been supplemented by hundreds of thousands of for-profit contract

[00:09:50] employees today the government spends more on defense contracts than it does on all the

[00:09:55] official federal bureaucrats third there are also various tax exempt or independent sectors

[00:10:02] which have more than doubled in the last 30 years many of them owe their jobs to federal or

[00:10:07] intergovernmental contract grant or fee funding you know these facts will be important to remember

[00:10:13] when congress and the public debate the federal budget although the number of federal employees

[00:10:18] looks about the same as it did in previous decades the federal budget is more than three

[00:10:22] times larger the federal workload has been dispersed and makes government look much smaller

[00:10:28] than it really is we do have a big government and should not fall for this federal shell game

[00:10:33] that tries to hide from taxpayers the real size and scope of government i'm curbie anderson

[00:10:40] and that's my point of view go deeper on topics like you just heard by visiting point of view

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[00:11:02] source for truth one of the other articles we've posted here and i'm going to go around the

[00:11:06] roundtable get some thoughts is called victim larpin and again in case you miss that larpin is

[00:11:12] live action role playing and if you've ever seen somebody out there playing star wars or

[00:11:18] whatever but again you have to on some cases see these protests as individuals who really don't

[00:11:25] know what they're talking about i mentioned recently the study that was done by professor

[00:11:30] university of california at berkeley which he hired an inch a firm a survey firm and they talked to

[00:11:37] hundreds of students and ask them you know you're using the phrase from the river to the sea

[00:11:42] what's the river what's the sea and all the answers you got i mean it's they say someone were like

[00:11:47] the dead sea and the Caribbean and i mean they don't know and i've seen interviews and you have

[00:11:52] as well seen this and also you're having individuals that are actually saying some things we may

[00:11:59] not like but if you believe in free speech the best test of free speech is when you hear things you

[00:12:05] dislike you still defend their right to say them but they're also crossing the line as penna pointed

[00:12:12] out by actually camping out and actually trespassing and there's a very good quote in this that

[00:12:19] comes again from kala barsh about uh martin luther king jr who he's best known for saying you

[00:12:24] have a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws but before he said that he said you do have

[00:12:30] a legal and a moral responsibility to obey just laws and so there's this kind of mindset right now

[00:12:37] that says well because of the evil being perpetrated against tomas which i disagree with but

[00:12:43] i'll just take the argument at face value that justifies breaking all sorts of laws in the

[00:12:48] united states and it seems to me that when we're talking about a level of violence

[00:12:53] we're talking about trespass we're talking about denying jewish students the right to even be on

[00:12:59] campus obviously you've crossed a line and i think it's sometimes a little bit fuzzy but there's a

[00:13:05] difference between articulating viewpoints that people dislike and thus completely disrupting

[00:13:11] the university campus well the universities have their own laws and rules and usually universities

[00:13:17] have rules in place that will allow people to express their opinion or will allow peaceful protest

[00:13:25] so in many of these cases you know the students are trying to stay within that but a lot of cases

[00:13:31] they're not now and it's getting um it's getting worse i think as as time goes on so this article

[00:13:38] says they're challenging uh the reasonable university policies and basically they're

[00:13:44] in doing so they are challenging the existence of the endowments of the universities they're

[00:13:49] really threatening their universities so the universities have good reason to get it under

[00:13:54] control yeah absolutely i mean there's i mean you you have no right to to trespass by that meaning

[00:14:02] to put down a tent and say this is my land that i'm now occupying you can't do that you

[00:14:08] can't engage in violence which they've done in many of these um you know i've seen some yeah we've

[00:14:13] seen horrible things you know and i just i just saw one today it was a it was a um a black student

[00:14:19] who was talking about how he was attacked and in another time his brother was attacked and

[00:14:25] he's not even jewish they just thought he was jewish um because he was more dark skin and

[00:14:32] and they were there he was hit and all this other stuff i mean those i mean those are crimes those are

[00:14:38] and so what i you know one of the things i really appreciated about the situation at the university

[00:14:45] of texas was my favorite quote was uh uh ben sass at the university of florida so

[00:14:52] he's always had a quick wit um and so i thought that was a great you want to look up a fun

[00:14:57] one look about the university of florida statement about the protesters and and their punishment um

[00:15:04] but uh i liked what texas did because the first time it happened they had already done their research

[00:15:10] and they they immediately announced when they took the action and i think they arrested like 50

[00:15:15] individuals who they were moving they understood that if if that number one they announced that

[00:15:23] there was national coordination so they had obviously talked to law enforcement or whatever

[00:15:27] and they had seen that there's a coordination that this is not coming from their students

[00:15:31] and that uh and and that there was a process and that they kind of got their foothold in

[00:15:36] there it becomes much more um difficult and and could cause more trouble to get them out

[00:15:42] which they would have to do eventually if they did and so they just didn't want it to start

[00:15:47] and and i thought that was very wise of them right less people get hurt there's no i think the agitators

[00:15:55] who are the majority of the people at these things like at texas it was because they when

[00:15:59] they arrested is like most of the people weren't students um they want the incident

[00:16:05] they want they're trying to yeah that that's what they're trying to create so

[00:16:10] i think it's really smart now i think the immediate response to the uh president of the

[00:16:15] university of texas and this is not a conservative person okay it was like i don't know 200 professors

[00:16:20] out of 2000 writing a their uh disapproval of the president and i'm like okay well you know

[00:16:27] this is where tenure is a really bad thing it's like okay well i disapprove of you bye

[00:16:33] you know you wish but uh that doesn't happen i i've never understood why you don't have to

[00:16:38] do what they say you certainly don't and teachers aren't in control and that's not gonna

[00:16:43] work uh at that university but in some places i think the columbia um the head of columbia

[00:16:50] was a total failure in the way she handled things and it's we're lucky there wasn't something worse

[00:16:57] that happened and a number of these ivy league schools you know but i think that

[00:17:00] what this is really showing us it is what you know a number of people have now been saying for a

[00:17:07] number of years charlie kerr everybody else's why are you sending your kids to these colleges

[00:17:13] what are you thinking and how many families just we know of kids who came back and now hate their

[00:17:20] parents hate everything they've they've been taught when they grow and they just lost their

[00:17:25] kids it's just so sad um and uh and so why would you send your kids there um so i i you know i

[00:17:34] hope the free market takes care of a lot of this over time uh because i think people

[00:17:40] you know want their kids to get a good education uh not the the really the stuff that's going on a

[00:17:46] lot of these especially these ivy league schools who are also by the way discriminating in their in

[00:17:51] their entrance too so they're they're bad in so many ways and finding a good one they're out

[00:17:57] there but it really takes a lot of effort there aren't that many even the christian the so-called

[00:18:01] christian schools are not very christian um you know and what they stick with as far as

[00:18:06] following any sort of doctrine and you know uh so so you got to be very careful what you pick uh and

[00:18:13] and just picking something because it's your alma mater is a really bad idea because it's probably

[00:18:18] very different from when you were there let me take a phone call just uh since we haven't taken

[00:18:22] very many state of texas uh kavx bobby thank you for joining us today yes uh i was just uh

[00:18:32] you know my my opinion is you know we're finding all these different like uh

[00:18:38] you know written pamphlets and stuff about you know how they coordinate you know and

[00:18:43] how what to do for their protesting and stuff and you know and and i'm just wondering

[00:18:50] you know because it seems like ever since october eighth all this stuff has been just slowly

[00:18:55] building and and and just more and more progressing i'm just wondering you know if it isn't like just

[00:19:02] you know big conspiracy going on i mean i'm not a conspiracy theorist by any stretch of

[00:19:08] imagination but it just seems like everything's been so coordinated and also i'm just wondering uh

[00:19:16] you know we've had so many people come across these borders i'm just wondering

[00:19:22] you know they're finding people aren't students in these uh protests i'm just wondering how many of

[00:19:27] them aren't part of these terrorist groups who are coming in and stirring all this stuff up

[00:19:36] it could be you know i think it's a conspiracy in the sense that the george floyd

[00:19:41] protests across the country is a conspiracy i mean there's not one person up at you know

[00:19:46] the helm of it directing everything but there is a playbook and you know that's why this was such

[00:19:53] a good article in the wall street journal about the rules for campus radicals radicals in a sense

[00:19:58] it's a linsky-esque um and so these rules have been around for a while these tactics these

[00:20:04] these the mob this the use of the mob to get your way and the only defense against that is

[00:20:10] law enforcement and enforcement of your rules and laws and so many of the universities and the

[00:20:15] localities you know they'll they've allowed it for long enough i mean it's it might be too late in

[00:20:21] some places to get control back but uh you know it was interesting at UCLA because the the jewish

[00:20:28] groups came back in and they were counter protesters and so you know they they had to push back

[00:20:35] where was where were the la police department you know where it took a while for them to get

[00:20:39] in university yeah you had the protesters on each side of the University of Alabama and

[00:20:44] they were both saying nasty things about the current president and uh i jokingly said well

[00:20:49] that brought him the nation together because they uh both sides don't like Joe Biden and they said some

[00:20:53] things we can't say on the air but i think this is good for Joe Biden is it unbelievable and it's

[00:20:58] funny is that oh quote i don't know if you saw it the thing was on his social media when there

[00:21:03] were protests under a trump presidency and he said well if these kind of protests are occurring

[00:21:07] it's the fault of the president because it's in on his watch and i was like oh probably shouldn't

[00:21:12] have said that yeah that one came back again it's a little bit of like a boomerang anyway we have a

[00:21:17] last half hour got some other issues to talk about we'll do that right after these important messages

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[00:23:08] or staff of this station and now here again is curvy anderson final half hour we're going to get

[00:23:15] two penedectors comment here in just a minute but while we are still talking about this issue

[00:23:20] there is the broader issue of the fact that not only do you have individuals

[00:23:24] in the middle east whether they were in um gaza or in the west bank there has been a talk

[00:23:30] of trying to maybe bring palestinian refugees to this country and i meant to bring that up

[00:23:37] before but as i've jokingly said sometimes we should keep the microphones on during the break

[00:23:41] because kelly brought that up and pennon i were talking about that even before

[00:23:46] of the program began so that is another issue which i would have to say would if nothing

[00:23:53] else just highlight even more the american concerns about immigration because if you've

[00:24:00] watched some of the individuals on campus a good number of them seem to be arab or muslim

[00:24:06] nothing wrong with that i have muslim friends i have palestinian friends in the neighborhood

[00:24:12] but these are the radical type of those individuals and as a result bringing in

[00:24:19] unvetted palestinian refugees i think might just be as they like to sometimes say a bridge too far

[00:24:27] and i do believe that that is not something that will happen but again i've been wrong before

[00:24:32] on some of these things yeah i guess it's to cater to the the protesting people on campuses just to

[00:24:39] say we're going to do something for those because they're saying it's people that like are struggling

[00:24:43] health-wise and need care or they've got cancer whatever we're going to bring them here and take

[00:24:47] care of them i mean i think if israel it's not willing to take them in israel is not and israel

[00:24:54] has very good health care so they could do it but for us to do it i mean we've got people

[00:25:00] that have grown up in gaza who've been educated to hate israel in the us um we don't know you know

[00:25:08] we do not know what kind of thinking they would have if we brought them in it would just be stupid

[00:25:15] really dumb let me down on a couple levels right number one the idea that egypt is kind of a

[00:25:22] you know a middle player i mean they're not on anybody's side but the the fact that they won't

[00:25:27] let any of those folks from there it tells you they're worried about terrorism exactly of course

[00:25:33] there and and you know when you have a country that put in charge of their country hamas uh

[00:25:41] you know there's good reason to not let those people but the other despite it being dumb and

[00:25:46] dangerous and all that it's also politically i think would be a massive mistake for biden because

[00:25:54] probably the number one issue i don't know maybe number two issue i'd say inflation is probably

[00:25:57] number one but number two in the election is that's a real problem for him is immigration

[00:26:04] because they've just opened the borders and all these people it's important so you've got

[00:26:08] all these americans who are dead from fentanyl uh i mean you've got just all these problems i mean

[00:26:14] we've we've gained some you know they brag about all the new jobs but the problem is they've

[00:26:17] all gone to people who've come over the border uh so so it's caused you know people's wages to be

[00:26:24] depressed and all this so people are really angry about immigration across the country and from all

[00:26:29] walks this is where he's losing i think a lot of what the old part of the democratic party the

[00:26:35] blue collar worker etc they're moving republican because of this so the idea that you would

[00:26:40] right before the election say hey we're gonna not only kind of close our eyes to the border

[00:26:47] we're actually gonna pull in a bunch of people from palestine oh boy and i mean it would just like

[00:26:53] put a highlight on this whole issue throw some gasoline on the fire yeah and i i just think

[00:26:58] politically that would probably be a really bad move so i i will doubt that that will happen

[00:27:05] because i think you know other people will step in the way and try to stop it from happening

[00:27:10] let me change topics just because kelly brought it up just a few minutes ago and that is victor

[00:27:15] davis hanson starting to sound like charlie kerrk you have you noticed this he says the country is

[00:27:20] waking up to the reality that a bachelor's degree no longer equates with graduates being broadly

[00:27:25] educated and analytical and he's talking about the fact that can this current universities be saved

[00:27:32] let me use an example which school has the largest endowment harvard do you know the other

[00:27:38] day harvard closed down one of its libraries because they didn't have enough money it's the

[00:27:43] wallback library now you might say well they have an endowment yeah but it's all tied up and

[00:27:48] they actually at harvard university had to get a loan to keep some of this part of the university

[00:27:56] going now eventually be fine because they got the largest endowment but that is just the

[00:28:01] backlash to the president who didn't give very good answers at a hearing in congress now that's a

[00:28:09] small issue because most people know a little bit about the president at harvard what's going to

[00:28:14] happen to columbia university what's going to happen to northwestern university where the adl

[00:28:22] anti defamation league and all the jewish groups spoke out against the president at northwestern

[00:28:28] for actually these concessions so if it can happen to harvard which has the greatest and

[00:28:33] the largest endowment of any university in the country what chance do some of these other

[00:28:38] schools have in the future if more and more parents say you know what maybe charlie kerrick and

[00:28:43] victor davis henson have some point here maybe i don't need to send junior off to college this fall

[00:28:49] yeah i pick a different college but maybe some middle america private christian university

[00:28:56] or hills hillside or little gross city or you know there's plenty of i'd heard the applications

[00:29:01] to hills dale doubled last year i don't know if that was true i tell you the other thing

[00:29:05] it tells you which is an endowment giving your money to an endowment is a really bad idea yeah

[00:29:12] because what happens is eventually other people have control and now i mean they can continue

[00:29:19] doing horribly i mean we kind of believe in the free market economy here that uh what a concept

[00:29:25] yeah that actually you should have a little pressure to perform or you don't get money

[00:29:30] to continue to do whatever you're doing so i i think those things are a big mistake

[00:29:36] because it it really doesn't allow feedback i know i know a person who's given money to a university

[00:29:44] a large amount of money and but they didn't give it one time what they did is they said

[00:29:50] here's what i'm going to give each year for the next 10 years with this this particular

[00:29:56] program they were wanting to do but that way they kept accountability and made sure that they weren't

[00:30:02] doing things different from what this person has them to do much smarter way to give although again i

[00:30:08] still don't think universities really need a lot of your money especially you know state universities

[00:30:14] and you see so many people give there because you know they went there they want their name

[00:30:19] on a building yeah and it's like come on you know why don't you give something that'll affect

[00:30:23] the kingdom uh more than that but uh but definitely an endowment is the last choice because this is what

[00:30:30] happens you have places like harvard that kind of can do almost what they want and they still have

[00:30:35] what 30 something billion dollars sitting in the bank they'll do fine but they had trouble just at

[00:30:40] the interim you've got to victor davis hansons article out there i thought would mention it for

[00:30:45] a minute and of course we'll be talking about penness commentary which you can hear coming

[00:30:49] up in about two and a half minutes but pennant what else did you come up with when we were

[00:30:53] reading the victor davis hansson piece well it's already happening at the universities are already

[00:30:58] losing says each year there are far fewer students entering college i didn't really know that um

[00:31:03] despite the population 40 million larger than 20 years ago we've had falling fertility rates so

[00:31:10] that's one thing uh but also just uh the cost of college is just exponentially i was thinking

[00:31:18] about when i went to college how much it cost and compared to you know and all around the table

[00:31:24] no way to cost now yeah oh but even what it cost even what it just cost 10 years ago when we were

[00:31:32] putting our kids through college and compared to now you know it's amazing and part of it has to do

[00:31:37] with government subsidizing so much of it and now with biden trying to forgive student loans

[00:31:43] that it just the colleges don't get cheaper when they do that they just raise their tuition

[00:31:48] because you know they can get it so it's crazy but also the majors in college i mean you have the stem

[00:31:54] which is still like it's it's a lucrative field where you can get a job if you go into the stem

[00:31:59] fields but there's all these therapeutic major social science majors gender studies types of

[00:32:05] things and uh you know maybe right now under dei these people can get a job but but a lot of

[00:32:11] schools are now seeing that dei and even companies the dei is becoming unpopular so these people

[00:32:18] you know they're going to have to find another line of work maybe they can go back to school and get

[00:32:23] well you know i think it's really great to become a plumber electrician right now we need that

[00:32:28] we need that in our country and those people should be paid a lot i think for what they do

[00:32:33] they actually do something yeah and michael rougue talks about that all the time and we've

[00:32:37] mentioned it uh more than once and again you got seven million young men who are not in the

[00:32:44] workforce and not looking for work so we have a real problem we talked about that earlier in the

[00:32:50] week and that's well documented by arthur brooks and by mike row and by nicklas eberstadt and others

[00:32:57] and so we have a lot of them they're just saying you know i've graduated from college

[00:33:02] and i'm just going to hang out with my parents and i don't think that's exactly a career advancing

[00:33:08] future for some of these individuals and that's not allowed in the chakra for home as soon as you

[00:33:13] graduate from college you're on your own by the way kelly had a pay raise because all of a sudden he

[00:33:19] doesn't have any of his kids in college right now nobody in law school nobody in college right

[00:33:22] that's right so that's how we get to spend it all in the grandkids but anyway let's take

[00:33:27] a break uh pennedexter's commentary this is very serious and she actually broke the story years ago

[00:33:33] but yeah this is the new material about jeff younger and talking about james younger you can

[00:33:40] listen to the commentary we'll talk about it with pennah right after this five years ago in a one

[00:33:57] hour radio interview jeff younger told me the story of his battle to save his then six-year-old

[00:34:03] son james when he was three his mother jeff's ex-wife and jorgalus began dressing and treating

[00:34:09] james as a girl she began taking him to a transgender affirming therapist she obtained a court order in

[00:34:15] joining jeff from dressing james as a boy for school from teaching him that he is a boy and from

[00:34:20] providing religious teachings about sexuality and gender james's mother instructed school authorities

[00:34:26] that he be treated as a girl he goes to school dressed as a girl and obediently answers to his

[00:34:31] girl name luna but with his dad and twin brother jude james is all boy and with family friends

[00:34:36] he would always play with the boys as a boy as james's mom a pediatrician orchestrated his social

[00:34:42] transition his father spent time and money fighting her in texas courts in 2019 jeff lost custody of

[00:34:48] james and jude he did eventually managed to win a court order prohibiting and from subjecting

[00:34:54] james to gender mutilation surgery or hormone treatments in late 2022 and in the twins moved

[00:35:00] to california jeff maintains that despite the texas supreme court's prohibition and initiated

[00:35:05] the move to take advantage of california's trans refuge laws these laws were strengthened in january

[00:35:11] 2023 when california senate bill 107 took effect one provision prohibits the state from enforcing

[00:35:18] court orders from other states that seek to remove custody from a parent who has moved to california

[00:35:23] to transition their child the question is will an jorgalist now procure puberty blockers

[00:35:29] cross-sex hormones and surgical castration for james jeff younger is convinced that california

[00:35:34] laws now allow her to do exactly that and she will be still protesting but will not even be

[00:35:40] allowed to testify at a may 30th court hearing in los angeles although several pro trans experts

[00:35:46] will take the stand stay tuned for point of view i'm pennedexter you're listening to point of

[00:35:57] view your listener supported source for truth back once again let me just give you very quickly

[00:36:03] the idea that next week or we are going to be doing a lot of different things pennedexter

[00:36:07] will be hosting on monday and then our friday weekend edition dr mario matthews will have

[00:36:12] tuesday we have of course one of my interviews on wednesday and thursday we have the millennial

[00:36:17] roundtable so you're going to get quite an overview of many topics so again be watching for that

[00:36:23] pennedexter thank you in advance for what you'll be doing both monday and friday

[00:36:26] but this commentary is one that you really helped us all understand about years ago i think it's

[00:36:34] fair to say now you did the original interview with jeff yunger and uh now i think we have even

[00:36:40] more to the story so give the background if you might it's amazing to me the story is not resolved

[00:36:47] it's been things have just gotten worse and this little boy named james yunger when i first found

[00:36:51] out about it he was six years old and jeff yunger his dad was fighting for him because his mother

[00:37:00] had tried to transition him to a transgender at three years old something he did something like

[00:37:07] had a doll or you know something that made her pick up on it and just move in that direction she

[00:37:15] is the divorced mom not even the biological mom but but the adoptive mom of these twin boys

[00:37:20] james and jude yunger so jeff um began trying to fight for him to be able to be a boy he was a

[00:37:29] boy at home he had to go to school as a girl and dress as a girl and answer to a girl's name because

[00:37:34] that's the way his mom made it set everything up so the you know the lawsuits started and

[00:37:42] the dad went to court he ended up actually losing custody of both kids not helping james um he

[00:37:49] actually got a court order though from the texas supreme court saying that the mom could not

[00:37:54] transition him or provide the surgery so he got that but he took uh the boys to california it's very

[00:38:01] different in california than it is in texas in california they're actually a sanctuary state for

[00:38:06] transgender surgeries and they even strengthened those laws at the end of 2023 so james's mom took

[00:38:14] him out there um at the very end of 2022 uh so jeff said well i know that uh that's why she

[00:38:23] took him she moved her practice took him out uh and there is a hearing at the end of may

[00:38:29] about this the father jeff is not allowed to testify at the hearing there'll be all kinds of experts

[00:38:36] of you know quote unquote trans experts transgender medicine transgender psychology

[00:38:41] to testify so you know the idea of course is to get him in the path and first you have to

[00:38:48] have puberty blockers and then you have cross-sex hormones and then if you want to completely

[00:38:53] transition you go on to the surgery and that's you know this has been a years long battle james

[00:38:59] is now 11 years old he's in the state of california his dad doesn't have much control but he keeps

[00:39:04] fighting spending his money and so i know that you're going to interview him bring him on to

[00:39:09] point of view live on monday the 13th and um it's a story that we all ought to be praying for

[00:39:15] it's one i've kept in my drawer my bedside table to you know just kind of check up on every once in a

[00:39:21] while and it hasn't gone the way any of us would like uh but the dad's still fighting you know it's

[00:39:27] just so sad you got two kids and um you know you you they they go they're with the dad they're

[00:39:35] two boys and then they're with the mom and all of a sudden you know they're not two boys and

[00:39:42] and so you you know in the old days and really it should be in the new days

[00:39:47] what really should happen is there should be question about the mom

[00:39:51] and her fitness to be a parent um how much i mean what damage is she doing to this little boy

[00:39:59] and uh you know it's just really sad and then the fact that you've got a place like california

[00:40:03] that wants to encourage this um you know i i know some attorneys who they're they're soul

[00:40:09] practice right now is going after the big pharma the doctors the all the people involved that are

[00:40:18] making so much money off of you know doing these sex uh uh change and and uh hormone therapies and

[00:40:27] things that you can't come back from i mean you can't you know you you know the the

[00:40:34] whether it's the double mastectomy or the castration or whatever i mean you can't

[00:40:38] come back from those things either really i mean kind of but not not really and uh all they're

[00:40:44] doing is bringing lawsuits against the people who make her money off these kids because as soon

[00:40:48] as these kids get to be of adult age then they have the authority over their own and they can

[00:40:55] come after them and i you know we'll see but i i think you get one of these in front of a jury

[00:41:03] i think this whole thing will be over because i think the average american jury will be furious

[00:41:08] at what they did to this young boy or young girl and i think nobody else will want to do this kind

[00:41:14] of thing and it's just really sad i mean really what you've got usually uh in this case i don't

[00:41:20] even know this is in any way coming from the boy it sounds like it's coming from the mom

[00:41:24] but even if you have it coming from the the boy or the girl eventually it will come from him

[00:41:29] if he gets enough i mean i don't know where he stands right now he's been socially transitioned

[00:41:34] but he may i don't think he's gotten the drugs yet so if he starts getting the drugs then you

[00:41:39] know of course it kind of moves in that direction and yeah and you got so many people that are

[00:41:45] speaking out now that say they thought that and then now they heavily regret it um and you know

[00:41:51] but i mean even if it came from a child um the idea that a child was having a mental problem

[00:42:00] they say well i'm a woman in a and i'm a i'm a girl in a boy's body that is not a physical

[00:42:06] problem that it's a mental problem and the idea that instead of helping them we are physically

[00:42:13] damaging them it's just so evil and uh and so i i think most americans at first were like i

[00:42:21] don't know what to say you know it's kind of you know i don't want to you know step on toes

[00:42:25] everything and i think with all that they've seen happen to people and the attack on women's sports

[00:42:31] and all the nonsense i think most americans have kind of said okay i know what to say now this is

[00:42:36] wrong you know remember how barack obama used to say why can't we be more like europe well in

[00:42:41] europe right now they're saying these trans surgeries are a really bad idea yeah in europe

[00:42:47] right now there was a report came down to uk the other day saying de i is a really bad idea and in europe

[00:42:55] you have restrictions on abortion maybe not too from a moment of conception but certainly by the

[00:43:01] time of heartbeat so you know when you start seeing other countries saying this is a really bad idea

[00:43:07] maybe should we rethink this even the united states because they've gone further and seen the

[00:43:11] damage i will say there's another part of this and that is you've got lots of states in the

[00:43:15] u.s that are not or have now passed through their legislatures laws to stop these surgeries

[00:43:21] transitioning kids but california on the other end and as a matter of fact they like to if you

[00:43:27] bring your kids from a state where you can't do it and they'll make it happen well now you have

[00:43:31] things coming out of the obama administration the the guiding of title nine uh and now they're

[00:43:37] biden uh the biden minister i'm sorry um the guiding of title nine is one and another one

[00:43:44] has to do with obama care fed any kind of federal health care now they're saying that it has to cover

[00:43:48] the trans in transgender surgeries forcing insurance companies they have a rule now they want to

[00:43:54] force insurance companies to cover it and uh just on the eoc on employers they're threatening

[00:44:01] also to force the transgender agenda on them so this is all coming out now we're from the

[00:44:07] federal level even though states are trying to do the right thing from the federal level

[00:44:11] they're coming down with rules i don't know why they would do this before an election but they're

[00:44:15] trying to do it so that if the new administration comes in they're stuck with these rules for a

[00:44:19] number of years and yeah and we've got clients we've got christian run companies who they're

[00:44:25] getting these attacks i mean including lawsuits saying you have to pay for my sex change

[00:44:31] so it's it's happening to christians just trying to run their business as well let me again

[00:44:35] encourage you to find some of these articles and if you got 20 minutes give us some time to

[00:44:40] watch the rights of people of faith to get involved it would be worth your time and maybe

[00:44:45] can pass it on to some others is saying i don't know if i need to vote i mean after all it's just

[00:44:49] too much of a lost cause no watch the video it'll change your mind again i appreciate what

[00:44:55] pennah and dr. mary mathies will be doing next week i certainly appreciate what megan does

[00:45:00] engineering the program steve thank you for reducing the program enjoy this weekend there'll

[00:45:04] be a lot that you can do and we'll look forward to seeing you back here right here on monday one

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