Point of View March 7, 2025 – Hour 1 : Weekend Edition

[00:00:04] Across America, Live, this is Point of View, Kirby Anderson. Thank you for joining us. This is the Friday Weekend Edition and in studio with me today is Dr. Merrill Matthews. Over the next hours or two we are going to be talking with a number of individuals,

[00:00:30] Petrina Mosley and then later Keisha Russell. We're going to get into of course the speech by the President Tuesday night as well as the response from the Democrats. A very good article by Dr. Merrill Matthews about federal buildings for sale. We'll certainly get into the whole issue of DOGE and the Department of Government Efficiency. We'll talk about a couple of other very important issues. Then we'll get into education next hour. Keisha Russell not only is a lawyer but has served in the area of education, has been a teacher.

[00:00:58] She has a letter to the Texas Education Association about whether or not it's okay to teach even about the Bible in the public schools. Of course, we'll get back to the issue of whether to abolish the Department of Education and a variety of other issues as well. Dr. Merrill Matthews in studio. Trina Mosley is an individual that maybe you've heard before on the Millennial Roundtable.

[00:01:22] She is a graduate of Liberty University with a Bachelor of Science in Religion with specialization in Biblical Studies and a Master's in Public Policy founder and principal of PPM Consulting. And, Petrina, welcome back to Point of View. Hello. Thanks for having me. Let's, if I can, go around the roundtable first since this was a very significant speech, a very long speech. The longest. I guess it's over now, finally.

[00:01:51] And, Petrina, come to you first. I'd love to get your thoughts about watching the President's speech and then just a few minutes we'll get to the Democratic response. But what about the speech by President Donald Trump? Well, first of all, I loved it. It was very optimistic and it was kind of a time to give everyone permission to be happy again.

[00:02:14] I mean, though there was a lot of hustling at the beginning from the Democrats that really made them look immature and like obnoxious children, at the end of the day, people really wanted to be happy again. I mean, we've just underwent one of the worst administrations this country has gone through. And it was kind of like you held your breath for four years because you didn't know who was running the White House. And now all of a sudden you can kind of exhale again and be recognized for so long.

[00:02:43] Americans were traded for nonsense. Nonsense in the sense of we're going to put illegals before Americans. We're going to tell girls that they're boys and boys that they're girls. And so it was a great night to just bring common sense back and to let Americans know that it's OK to breathe again. It's time to be happy again. And that America really is that. Dr. Merrill Matthews, your thoughts?

[00:03:08] Well, I think it undoubtedly was the most entertaining state of the union, which it wasn't called a state of the union because it's just an argument. Yeah, he'll have three more of them. But it was most entertaining. And that's in the polls show that he gets very wide public response. And people really enjoyed it. It's changing the nature of the state of the union speeches, though. You know, and they've been changing for a little while.

[00:03:33] You remember Barack Obama at one point sort of criticized the the Supreme Court. And Wilson said, you lie. That was considered a huge breach of etiquette at that time. Then you had Nancy Pelosi tearing up Donald Trump's speech after the end of it. Yes, sir. And then and then Biden actually engages with the Republicans. Remember talking about Social Security and Medicare. Will you guarantee even talks to the group? Will you not cut them? Will you assure me that now?

[00:04:03] And now we've gone to this with just a whole nother another level of just engagement and some bluster and other things. And it was just it was very entertaining. As Petrina mentioned, the Democrats did not look good in this. And they're getting criticized from their own constituents about why aren't you doing more to fight back? What they decided to do is hold up these little signs that looks really silly. And then some got up and left. And, of course, one was escorted out. I didn't go back and look, but I can't.

[00:04:33] I would guess you'd have to go back to the Civil War to find a time if even if somebody had to be escorted out of the state of the union. You know, and decades or years centuries ago, they didn't even they just handed a cinema letter. But I think we've got three more state of the union from Trump. This he did so well with this, I would expect it to be even more. So next time.

[00:04:54] And I expect Democrats to try to figure out some way to respond to this, because seriously, if you're a Democrat and you're just sitting there on your hands and Republicans are standing up, cheering and applauding and hooting and hollering. And Marjorie Taylor Greene's wearing a MAGA hat up there. I don't know why you wouldn't think you can't stand up and boo and criticize and so forth. So I think we've got more in store, but it's getting to be more of an entertainment theater than it was just a sort of a boring state of the union.

[00:05:23] You know, I predicted a couple of years ago that we used to have a state of the union address or a speech by the president before Congress. And it was like being in the gallery at a golf game. And now it's getting a little bit more like the House of Commons. But let me just mention that first articles by Cal Thomas is how he said it was a partisan speech. It was an optimistic speech.

[00:05:43] It was a speech that laid blame for inflation and the massive number of migrants and illegal drugs that enter in the country during the previous administration at the feet of Democrats. It was an uplifting speech about the future. It was a deliberately divisive speech when it came to policies pushed by the Democrats. And at times, as you point out, it was a funny speech, as President Donald Trump pointed to Democrats and the silly signs raised by some blasting them for all sorts of things.

[00:06:10] I also posted one by Ben Shapiro, and he said, well, when they hold up those signs, it looks like what you do at a Brazilian steakhouse. Never thought of that one before. But, Katrina, what about that? Because there are different elements to this speech. Two old guys around the table. You are younger. Maybe you can look at it in a different way because, in some respects, we've never seen something quite like this before. But what are your thoughts? Well, I think with Trump, it's always going to be entertaining.

[00:06:38] I don't think politics has been the same since Trump has entered the space. But I also think men and women look at these things differently, right? Like my husband, I mean, he loved it every time Trump was pushing a divisive political agenda and saying woke is dead. I mean, you know how guys are. They kind of jab at each other. You know, he loved it. But, you know, women, we really love the heartwarming moments that occurred in the dress, too.

[00:07:05] And it was such a strong contrast from the Democrats and everyone else in the room. I mean, the Democrats couldn't even stand up for brain cancer survivor DJ. You know, the little boy who was deputized right then and there on the spot. You had the family from one of the victims of the Pennsylvania shooting that Trump survived. And then you had the families from the victims of illegal crime. I mean, in all of these moments, it's kind of pulled on your heart.

[00:07:35] There were such heartwarming moments that it really overshadowed the ugliness from the Democrats. But, again, you know, women and men view these things differently, and I think that they had a good combination to cover all of their bases, where there was strong policy, there were strong stances, and Trump fulfilled his promise the night before saying, look, I'm coming into this thing to tell it like it is. And he did. He told it like it was. But he also included some great stories that kind of showed this is the direction that we're going,

[00:08:04] that if you see yourself in these stories, we are here for you, and you're not going to be left behind anymore. So it was good. It was a good combination. Going to take a break, and when we come back, get into a little bit more of that. I just came from a meeting where they were talking about one of the study shows that, especially the Gen Z, are so interested in seeing things that are truthful, authentic, and transparent. And nobody says, when I've heard Donald Trump speak, I really don't know where he stands on the issue.

[00:08:34] And so, in some respects, that maybe resonated there as well. We'll come back and get a little bit more. There was a Democratic response, a vote on censure yesterday, and we shall overcome. We have a lot more to cover. We'll do that right after this. This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson.

[00:09:02] You know, at a time when politicians are talking about the threats to democracy, it might be worthwhile to consider what democracy really is. But first, an obvious disclaimer. America is a republic, not a democracy. Professor Alan Golzo recently wrote about Lincoln's vision of democracy. After the Battle of Gettysburg, Lincoln was asked to participate in the dedication of the National Cemetery in that town. The featured orator was Edward Everett. But the short 272-word speech by Abraham Lincoln is the message we remember.

[00:09:32] Lincoln laid out the story of the American Republic in three stages. The past, four score and seven years ago. Then the present, now we are engaged in a great civil war. And then the future, we here, highly resolved that these dead shall not have died in vain. But the least examined words of the address are the triplet. Government of the people, by the people, for the people. This was more than just rhetorical flourish. Lincoln essentially laid out the three foundations of our government. The first is consent.

[00:10:02] We are a government of the people. In a previous speech, he even explained that the just powers of government are derived from the consent of the governed. The second distinctive feature is the people's voice in the affairs of governing. We are a government by the people. Lincoln argued that government by the people through their laws and through the election and not by mobs. The third element is a government that serves the interest of the people. We are a government for the people.

[00:10:28] Government is not for a king or for an aristocracy or even for a few elites. So what is the form of government in America? Well, it is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view. Go deeper on topics like you just heard by visiting pointofview.net. That's pointofview.net.

[00:10:57] You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. Back once again, weekend edition. If you'd like to join the conversation, that number is 1-800-351-1212. Of course, you've had a chance to see the speech and see the reactions. And, Patrina, I'm going to come to you for just a minute. But just before I do so, someone put together a list of places where you think the Democrats should have stood and applauded. And this list has 35.

[00:11:25] Now, I recognize even though this list was created, when it talks about ending DEI, I'm sure they aren't going to do that. But back to the point you were making, some of them on the list, capturing an ISIS terrorist. Of course, the young boy fighting brain cancer who was given five years to live after being diagnosed with that. Taking down illegal revenge porn. Protecting women's sports. Ending taxes on tips over time in seniors' Social Security.

[00:11:52] Securing historic investments in the chip manufacturing. Removing illegal alien killers. The return of American Mark Fogle. The student getting accepted to West Point. Restoring a ship building. I mean, there were, I would have to say, Patrina, some that unless you are really calloused, you would at least say, I don't like Trump, but I do need to show some support for the people in the gallery.

[00:12:18] And it was hard to see anybody on the right side of the aisle, or the left side of the aisle if you look in the other way, that actually stood or applauded for any of that. It was really scary. It was deranged. I mean, at this point, I'm willing to put TDS in the, you know, the book about mental illnesses. Like, put it on the category list, TDS, because it is real.

[00:12:45] And they show that they hated Trump more than they loved America. And that's a problem. I don't know how that's going to pan out for them. But, yeah, I mean, all of those moments could have been unifying moments. They had nothing to do with policy, nothing to do necessarily with a Republican agenda, not all of them. Some of them were just, you know, real victim stories, real survivor stories that we as Americans should applaud.

[00:13:12] And then the most hypocritical thing is, yeah, some of these Democrat women wearing pink to be in solidarity with women when literally 24 hours before that they voted to keep men in women's sports. Make it make sense. And you can't.

[00:13:28] And this is why so many viewers viewed this time where Trump was telling it like it is so refreshing because we're tired of being in this creepy fun house where men with beards can put on dresses, beat up women, and mutilate body parts from Frankenstein doctors. We're just tired of it. And if they don't want to stand with that, that's fine. But like you said, there's polling right now that says at least over 60 percent saw this time of his address very favorable. And it's because the left has gone insane.

[00:13:59] You know, one of the things that I think it was Ronald Reagan who first introduced somebody in the gallery that he highlighted. Yes. And that's become sort of a staple of the State of the Union addresses now. But Trump has taken it to another level because by taking the one boy, telling him you're accepted to West Point, making the other boy, the young boy, cancer survivor. DJ is it, I guess. But now you're an honorary member of the Secret Service, naming a park after Lake and Riley.

[00:14:30] He's introduced a whole new thing. And when he first started with the park, I thought, well, that's interesting. And he's done these other things. I thought this is going to just change this whole nature because you're not the next president to do this after Trump. I expect Trump will do this a few more times. But the next president will want to go this and even further doing. So it's a very interesting development there. But one thing I do have I think we have to mention, there are there were some blusters and some misinformation in some of these statements. OK, well, we can get to those in a minute.

[00:14:59] That's fair. Comparing himself to George Washington. Well, that was just plain hyperbole there. Hyperbole. Done more in four weeks than most presidents have done in four years, which I thought that's probably – that may be true in some. On the other hand, FDR did win a war in his third administration. So there's – and the other thing is, of course, Trump has done most of what he's done is been two things.

[00:15:26] Doge going out there cutting staff and then a lot of executive orders, which can be repealed. So he needs to start getting some things passed through Congress, and they're trying to work on that. But there's also some – a few misinformation things. And I'll say with that, there haven't been millions of people who've died in Ukraine. There have been a lot. And there are various groups that try to track this. But there hasn't been that many other things.

[00:15:50] It's just interesting that he says many of these things, which you can go back and actually – it's a speech that he's reading off the prompter. So you could have gone and checked some of these facts, and some of them just actually are not correct. On Wednesday, Gary Bauer picked off one that was just one of those head scratchers because he said, well, we weren't keeping records that far back. So I think you could not call that one a mistake, but others obviously were. So fat checks go all the way around. Sometimes you have to fact check the fact checkers, too. Sometimes you do, yes. Yeah.

[00:16:20] The Social Security thing of how many people – I think he had several million people who were living so long. 360 years of age. And what I understand from the Social Security Administration is those are people who they have not got a date of death in there. So they're not necessarily giving up checks. But it does look like they've lived a long life. It's just unbelievable.

[00:16:42] But it would have been easy to fact check that and just sort of say – I mean, I think it's still like 89,000 who have lived that long, over 100. So there are a lot of people over there. But Trina, let me come back to you because you're talking about how your husband kind of likes it when Trump sometimes pokes the chest of the opposition. And you kind of mentioned that.

[00:17:02] But as Cal Thomas talks about here, as if to rile the Senate Democrats, none of whom could vote for a bill protecting women's sports from men who claim to be transgender, Donald Trump invited a woman who suffered a traumatic brain injury after being hit with a volleyball by a biological man playing with women on the opposing team. So you not only had survivors, Lake and Wiley's sister and mother and things like that.

[00:17:31] You had some that were actually affected by these policies. And that's another place where I think it's fairly fair to say that Donald Trump didn't back away from saying a few things that might be kind of divisive and even confrontational. I mean, no. And at this point, you have to. You have to say the hard things when the person that survived a brain injury or a concussion, rather, is sitting right there in front of you.

[00:18:00] And any real man is not going to want to put their wives, their daughters, their children, their sisters in danger. And, you know, this is where it's good to have a man to man stand up and say no. You know, I don't – I'm not for having my wife get beat up, my sisters get beat up in achievements that they should be able to excel in. And it's a moral issue, but it's also an issue of fairness. And, you know, the feminists have really messed up this issue.

[00:18:30] I don't know where they're at. But you have a few who are outliers who have no home in the Democratic Party anymore. But you really need both genders on this issue to stand against this craziness. And so it was really good to see, as they say, the affinels kind of stand up and say no, we're not having this. This ends today. Woke is dead. And you need that. You need that type of leadership. And it was good to see.

[00:18:57] And I think men kind of needed to see that, too, to be like, okay, I'm not the bad guy in this narrative. I'm not the homophobe. I'm not the, you know, toxic masculinity person. I'm the person who wants to protect women, as God has called me to do. And sometimes with that comes saying no. And that was good. One of the ways you know that some Democrats are getting the message and the way that you know that one certain Democrat is running for president,

[00:19:27] is the governor of California, Gavin Newsom, has now come out opposing men in women's sports. And he's taken a lot of flack for that. But Gavin Newsom sort of catches the wind of these things. I mean, he kind of sees where the wind is blowing there. And that's why I say this is how you know he's running for president for the next year. Well, as a matter of fact, you've got this split. And we're going to come to a break and come back with some more. I've talked about the number of times we've been hearing from Senator Chris Murphy, who is from Connecticut.

[00:19:55] And it's pretty obvious he's running for something because, my goodness, he is everywhere talking about every issue. But he's doubling down on a lot of those issues. And then, as you just mentioned, Gavin Newsom is saying, oh, no, I think this is really unfair. And so it will be interesting, which when we come back from the break, I do want to get into some of these other articles. But I want to get your thoughts about just the future leadership. Because, you know, Al Green is censured. And you can't even get a lot of Democrats to agree with that.

[00:20:25] And the censure, if anybody thinks that's really draconian, just recognize that the United States Senate censured Andrew Jackson. Look at your $20 bill. See how well that worked. And so yet you still could not censure those individuals. And then the piece that we have by Ben Shapiro talks about the fact that Nancy Pelosi was there but looked kind of bored and lost. The House Minority Leader, Hakeem Jeffries, seemed kind of confused. Chuck Schumer wasn't even heard from.

[00:20:52] Is this becoming a party of Jasmine Crockett and Al Green and a few others? And so I want to get some thoughts about that as well. As we go to a break, let me just mention, and I do want to get Petrina to talk about this later, our take action item is to tell your member of the House of Representatives no taxpayer funding for abortion. Next week we'll be moving on to some other issues. Executive orders are good, but getting it actually part of the law of the land is even better.

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[00:23:01] The opinions expressed on Point of View do not necessarily reflect the views of the management or staff of this station. And now, here again, is Kirby Anderson. In studio with me today, Merrill Matthews. And by phone, Petrino Mosley. And I thought we would talk for just a minute about the outburst from Representative Al Green. Which is kind of interesting because at one point he stands up there with his cane and says, You have no mandate to cut Medicaid.

[00:23:29] And everybody's thinking, Well, that's almost for certain that Donald Trump is not going to do that. And as you pointed out just a minute ago, Dr. Matthews, we don't have anything quite like it. But if you go back to 1856, remember our history books here. You have the Representative Preston Brooks from South Carolina who was, of course, pro-slavery. And he took out his cane and beat Charles Sumner, who was an abolitionist from Massachusetts, right there in the Capitol.

[00:23:59] So, yes, that happened a while back. And you told me off air that apparently it broke his cane and they what? Yeah, when he went back to South Carolina, they had a party for him and they had presented him with a new cane. And Sumner went into the hospital because it wasn't a light beating. It was a heavy beating. It was awful. And so, again, I'm going to acknowledge. We're not there yet. But I will mention, Green had a cane in his hand. Yes, he did. He was promptly holding up the cane.

[00:24:28] And so, again, let's put this in perspective. It took quite a bit to get him out of there. Poor Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, pounds his gavel calling for decorum. They had a vote yesterday on censure. And now it's a debatist whether they had nine or ten Democrats that voted with Republicans. But almost all the Democrats voted against censure. And then trying to even bring decorum.

[00:24:55] Then they all gather in the front and sing, we shall overcome. And I just, I really wonder. It's almost like what one particular generation allows, the next generation practices to access. What one session of Congress has allowed. Is this going to get worse? What's your thoughts? Oh, I suspect it's going to get worse. And we were talking a little bit about the leadership in the Democratic Party. And there's no clear leader right now.

[00:25:22] Nancy Pelosi is in her 80s and she has really sort of moved out of leadership. Chuck Schumer, even Jon Stewart on The Daily Show readily criticizes Chuck Schumer as just somebody who looks like an old man reading over the top of his glasses and they need somebody else. But who's that going to be? AOC did not go to the speech.

[00:25:45] I, Kamala Harris was at the Oscars the other night and I read a story where several people around there, most of these Hollywood liberals are asking her, are you going to run for governor of California? Are you going to run for president? She hadn't made a decision. She said she'll make a decision by the end of the summer. Probably the, one of the best people they have conceivably is Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, who's more moderate and generally considered, you know, could be a contender. But I'm not sure he could get the backing of the Democratic Party being Jewish and supportive.

[00:26:15] Petrina, let me come to you. Who is the leadership? I mean, Hakeem Jeffery supposedly, but certainly the people making press right now are Al Green and Jasmine Crockett. We are right away broadcasting from the state of Texas, which is exactly where the two of those individuals come from. AOC wasn't even heard from. I don't even think she attended. No, she did not. What about that? Who is going to be the leadership of the Democratic Party? Do you have any thoughts at all?

[00:26:42] I don't know, but I think all the people you just mentioned, they're the minions. They're not really the leaders of the Democratic movement, the liberal elite ideology. I mean, these people, they're low-hanging fruit that will, as one article said, be the theater kids who keep the talking messages and do all the theatrics and stuff.

[00:27:04] But when it comes to, like, the elite fundraisers, which I would put Gavin Newsom in that category, like Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, and even a little bit of AOC as of late, you know, they're kind of shifting a little bit, changing their story, partly because it's a business strategy, right? These people are businessmen. But, you know, that doesn't mean we should just throw trust to them overnight and, frankly, ever give them any trust because these are the types of people that fund the ideology.

[00:27:34] So I think, you know, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, the guy who raised the ruckus last night, this week, Al Green, all these people are minions. But when it comes to the big money that's backing this ideology through the World Health Organization and the World Economic Forum, those are the people who really run the party, who run the agenda. And those are the people we need to watch. These people are going to come and go. I definitely think Newsom is probably going to go for a run. I don't know if he'll be successful or not.

[00:28:03] But the people we need to watch are the people with the money. And the rest of the lower-tier people are going to come and go. Because there's no apparent leader of the Democratic Party right now, people are sort of going off and doing their own thing. So Gavin Newsom is starting a podcast. And then there was about seven Democratic women who did a little video of them saying, you know, we're ready to fight. And they did quick little videos of them, and they're sort of jumping up and down, bouncing like a kangaroo with their fist out.

[00:28:33] And it just looked ridiculous. I don't know how this works. You might be able to do something in which you look like you've got real fighters out there. But this just looked ridiculous as they're smiling and just jumping up and down with their fists open. I don't know what the Democrats are going to do right now because they don't know how to respond to this. You've got John Fetterman saying, I think this was a bad look and all of that. We had the rebuttal speech from a former congressman, now Senator Elisa Slotkin from Michigan.

[00:29:00] But even there, she popped off with a claim that President Trump doesn't believe America is an exceptional nation. I've had a few people say, I literally slapped my forehead when she said that. If there's anybody who believes an exceptional nation, it would be Donald Trump. So maybe that's a leader. Maybe it's not. You know, I watched her speech. And I thought she did a fairly good job of delivering. This is a hard spot. Following the State of the Union, especially Donald Trump.

[00:29:29] Ask Marco Rubio who had to go through that. Yes, indeed. Especially following Donald Trump is a hard spot. But I thought she did a fair job of delivering it. I don't agree with much of what she said. But she could, I mean, she's a former veteran. I mean, she could end up being one of the leaders out there. But it's just hard to see who's going to be there. This is something we've talked about for a while, is the Democratic Party really doesn't have a deep bench of leaders that can come up and take the place. It really doesn't.

[00:29:56] I could keep this going, but I thought just so we would at least go through some of the articles we promised. One of those, I'll come to you first, Dr. Matthews, for sale by owner, federal office buildings can help the housing crisis. I've got the list here of how the doge cuts are going. And those are kind of few and far between. But, boy, if you want to save a billion dollars right off the bat, maybe $2 billion, depends on which numbers you look at,

[00:30:21] just selling off some of these buildings that are, and as you point out here, some of these are 25% filled. Others are averaging between 39% and 49% utilization. You could put everybody in one or two buildings, sell off those. They could eventually become office buildings or condominiums or something. It would improve the tax base, number one, and it would save the federal government billions, possibly, of dollars over the years.

[00:30:50] The agency that oversees this is the General Services Administration. We're hearing much about them because some of the doge people are hibernating in the GSA building. They've taken up several floors, and they've put in showers and beds and everything else. What a room. But they say the GSA's portfolio has 370 million square feet of spare office space in the U.S. and eight territories, including 1,700 owned and 6,700 leased buildings.

[00:31:20] Wow. And, of course, they had been doing recently some of the look as to what it does. They're spending about $2 billion in those owned buildings on upkeep, $5 billion leasing. And they've looked at how full these offices are, and many of them are around 25% or less. A few of them have a little more. And these buildings are all over Washington. I mean, the country, they're everywhere. And so the administration has suggested they would like to sell, I think, maybe two-thirds of them, something like that.

[00:31:49] And then the question is, how do you do that? Because they've tried to sell federal property before, and it hasn't worked that well. They've had a lot of trouble with it, but that's oftentimes, I think, because they put so many strings in it. And I just say, put it up for bid and let the highest bidder win.

[00:32:03] And what's interesting right now is a lot of developers are out there looking for empty office buildings, not just federal buildings, but empty office buildings, because they want to come in, redo these things, get them up to code, and turn them into apartments and condos in downtown areas or just on the outside of downtown areas. And they've already started doing that in some places, like Minneapolis and others. And so there's really a good chance to be able to sell some of these because developers are looking for a way to increase housing.

[00:32:32] Well, and again, if you go to Washington, D.C., and I think all of us have, you look at the Trump Hotel in Washington, D.C. That was the post office originally, you know, and postal service. So I do want to get some comments from Petrina, but also we'll come back and maybe talk about this other issue related to housing, and that one comes from HUD, an individual we've had on the program many times, Scott Turner.

[00:32:54] And before we wind down this hour, I wanted to get Petrina's thoughts about the take action item, because we recognize that as good as some of these executive orders are on everything from abortion to DEI, it is certainly the possibility that some of that can change. So looking at this issue of the Hyde Amendment and abortion funding and a number of other things, that is our action item that we've been talking about as well. So let's take a break, though. We'll come back and cover a few more issues.

[00:33:25] As a program note, we're going to say after the next segment a goodbye to Petrina Mosley, and then we'll welcome back to the microphone Keisha Russell, second hour. And by the way, I'll be interviewing her on her new book next week as well. Lots coming up. Take a break. We'll be right back.

[00:33:41] As the transgender agenda began to unravel, author J.K. Rowling posted her summary of the damage it's done, including this. Gender ideology has undermined freedom of speech, scientific truth, gay rights, and women and girls' safety, privacy, and dignity.

[00:34:09] It's also caused irreparable physical damage to vulnerable kids. Nobody voted for it. The vast majority of people disagree with it. Yet it has been imposed top-down by politicians, health care bodies, academia, sections of the media, celebrities, and even the police. Here are just three actions the Trump administration has already taken to dismantle this woke regime. On February 5th, National Girls and Women in Sports Day, surrounded by a crowd of female athletes,

[00:34:35] President Trump signed an executive order titled Keeping Men Out of Women's Sports. The president warned education institutions and their athletic associations, If you let men take over women's sports teams or invade your locker rooms, you will be investigated for violations of Title IX and risk your federal funding. Secondly, two days after Attorney General Pam Bondi was sworn in, the administration reversed its position in the case currently being considered at the U.S. Supreme Court.

[00:35:02] In December, the court heard oral arguments in U.S. v. Scrimetti, the Biden administration's challenge to Tennessee's law protecting minors from gender transition procedures. The Bondi Justice Department has dropped all opposition to the law. Twenty-five other states have similar laws. A ruling in Scrimetti will affect challenges to those laws, so the Supreme Court will continue to deliberate and resolve this case. Finally, pursuant to another of President Trump's executive orders, the administration is rewriting admissions requirements,

[00:35:32] ceasing the funding of gender transition procedures, and otherwise moving the military away from transgender tyranny. There is more being done and much more to do, and Congress must act to make sure this rejection of trans tyranny is permanent. For Point of View, I'm Penna Dexter. You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. Back once again, and we have with us for a few more minutes,

[00:36:01] Petrina Mosley, also in studio, Meryl Matthews. And, Petrina, I thought I'd come to you because the government accounting office says government spends about $2 billion a year to operate and maintain its buildings, but another $5 billion a year to lease office space. It does seem to me that as I'm looking, and I've got this running total of doge cuts, that could be a very significant impact in the future, really your future,

[00:36:30] and our children's and grandchildren's future, because spending billions of dollars on empty office space makes no sense to me. What about you? Yeah, this is a good thing, and it incentivizes ever returning to big bureaucratic government again. And I'm unsure about the use of turning these into homes and condos until the city of D.C. gets this crime under control. Well said. Yeah.

[00:36:59] I mean, because people are leaving. People are moving to Virginia. I mean, even into the outer, inner countries of Maryland, where there's a lot more land, a lot more space, lower prices. People are leaving D.C. So I don't know about that. But as for the other federal buildings in other parts of the country, I do imagine the administration will work with the governors and their local officials to determine, you know, what's the best use of this land. But keeping it in federal hands is a no-go. And I definitely support this initiative, because if you don't have the space,

[00:37:29] it's a lot harder to go back to big government ever again. So this is good. They need to sell it off, get it off their hands, and put it back to whoever controls the land in those states and local counties and let them do what they want with it. I don't know if it's going to happen in D.C., but as far as the other places, I think this is a really good move. Petrine has a point there, because so many people have been moving out of Washington to northern Virginia. Virginia used to be a red state. Yes.

[00:37:54] And then now northern Virginia corridor there has become so blue that it sort of affects the whole state. So that's happening. But if people go to the piece that I did for the Hill, I actually have a link there where you can click on a map, and it will show you where these federal office buildings are all over the country. They're everywhere, and not just in big cities. They're in medium-sized cities and other places, because you have VA people, you have interior people, you have all kinds of people out there in various parts of the country.

[00:38:25] And Trump wants to move more of them out of Washington to the country. And I sort of understand that. If I were working in Washington and felt like I needed to be there, I might be upset about that. But on the other hand, the point of get out there among real people and see what the public is like, and it might change people's attitudes. One other article I thought I'd just put on real quickly, we've had Scott Turner on this program before, and he served in the Department of Housing and Urban Development under Ben Carson. Now he is the actual new secretary,

[00:38:54] and wanted to get rid of, and has been able to get rid of, the affirmative furthering fair housing rule. That's a lot of words for basically a good example of too many strings, too many rules, because as this article by Stanley Kurtz, who we've had on the program before as well, talks about, it's really kind of an attack on American suburbs, and its attempt to undercount their economic and political independence. It's really to just kind of change the country by using some of these rules.

[00:39:22] And so it was something that Barack Obama had, Trump got rid of, Biden brought it back, Trump's getting rid of it again. And you know what's happening, I mean, anything called affirmatively furthering fair housing, it's got to be bad. It's got to be bad. But what they would do is they would go through, and this is during the Obama administration, they would go through and they'd look in housing areas, especially in suburbs, and they'd try to figure out, do you have a fair mix of minorities and others in there? And of course, since you don't put down whether you're a minority,

[00:39:52] when you go for a loan, a mortgage or something, they had to go by names. Okay, here's a Gonzalez, we've got to assume that's going to be Hispanic. Here's a Cruz, that's got to be Hispanic. Here's somebody with a name that looks like it might be African-American, so we'll assume that. And then they would try to say, well, we don't see that there's enough African-Americans, enough Hispanics, enough Chinese or whoever in these areas, so we've got to make sure that we've got to get more people in there. This is what we call disparate impact. Even though you couldn't show any real, racial discrimination in there, it was just,

[00:40:22] it was assumed that there was racial discrimination because there wasn't an equal balance of these other minorities. And so that's where they were trying to sort of focus and put various strings and force things to happen. It's almost like quotas, Petrina, for the issue of housing. And those have never worked, have they? No. And, you know, when you do things like this, it always backfires.

[00:40:47] And so I'm really happy about Scott Turner's leadership and the direction that the president is going on everything. It's, we've got to cut the red tape. And actually, when you think about how racism works in urban communities and taking down suburbians, it's really the Democrat policy of keeping people in zip codes is what really hurts a lot of families and impacts education.

[00:41:15] So I hope that they do something about that. We'll see and how that will overlap with the Department of Education. But I'm pretty hopeful. And so far, I trust what Trump is doing in all of his agencies and cutting ridiculous policies and waste. Let's see if we can just for a minute to mention that you are one of the contributing authors to Choose Life, answering key claims of abortion defenders with compassion.

[00:41:45] And our action item, which we've had up and probably will change out next week. And I thought, Patrina, I get your comments because what we have is, of course, President Trump has signed an executive order to enforce the Hyde Amendment, which would prevent the sending of dollars, foreign aid dollars to promote abortion. But this particular bill, HR 7,

[00:42:08] builds on that in terms of no taxpayer funding for abortion or even abortion insurance and a number of other things. So that seems to me to be the next step rather than just have an executive order that the next president could overturn. A piece of legislation that actually codifies that looks like a good idea. What's your thoughts? Absolutely. That's the direction we need to go. I mean, executive orders are great and he has a lot of good ones that he's issued and a lot more to come.

[00:42:38] That he's promised under his agenda 47. But you really need codification. You need the law to be established. And the only reason why we're having to do this is because the hearts of so many have grown cold. I mean, the Hyde Amendment is just an enforcement of another law that's already there. But the Hyde Amendment is to say, well, this other law, the heart of it is to say, no, we don't want government funds going towards abortion.

[00:43:06] And so now we need a specific law to state that expressly. And when you need more laws, it really does show you the decline of your country spiritually and morally. But I hope this kind of new optimistic revival that's happening in our country will be enough to get some positive momentum on this. I don't know if it will be successful, but you always build off of the momentum that you can get today.

[00:43:35] And you carry that hope for tomorrow. So I am very optimistic of what we can do right now. Because people's spirits are rooted. People and legislators are emboldened because they have a president that's going to back them. Even if it may not be some of their personal convictions, which we know now Republicans care about saving lives, they still have the backing of the president to be a little bit more bolder on this. And that makes a difference, too. So I'm very optimistic on this. I think so. And again, we would encourage you to contact your representative,

[00:44:03] whether he or she would necessarily agree with you or not. They need to hear from you. Petrina, let me just before we go mention that we have a link to your X file. And so that is, of course, formerly known as Twitter, Petrina Palmer Mosley. You can also go to PetrinaMosley.com. There you can see your consulting services. And more importantly, I suspect some people might say, I'd like to have her come and speak to our group. So if they'd like to contact you, there's a way they can do that as well. So thank you for joining us by phone. One of these days,

[00:44:33] we've got to get you in studio. And certainly we've appreciated your contribution, both in the Millennial Roundtable and today on our weekend edition. So thank you for being with us. Thank you for having me. I love being here. And I would love to get to Texas. Well, we've got to get you to Texas. I love it. Let's see if we can bring your husband along as well. I think he'd enjoy that. Keisha Russell will be with us next hour. And so I want you to be looking forward to that. We're going to get into the issue of education. That did generate a lot of phone calls. It probably will. And so we'll get into that.

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