Point of View June 25, 2026 – Hour 2 : What’s a Little Mob Attack on a Church Service?

[00:00:04] Across America Live, this is Point of View, Kirby Anderson. Taking over today, we'll spend some time first of all looking at some of the issues in the news bottom of the hour. We have our good friend Robert Knight who of course writes for the Washington Times and a variety of other venues.

[00:00:31] One of the pieces we've posted, The Clock Is Ticking in Iran Knows It, but also thought I'd talk not only about foreign policy, but some domestic policy issues that he's written about as well. We'll do our best to try to wind down that as well. And I might, as a program note, mention that tomorrow we will of course be talking about this issue of socialism. I'll hold up our booklet on socialism.

[00:00:55] As a matter of fact, I might even hold up, since we have it here, the particular articles that we posted many months ago on this issue of socialism. We've gone from socialism is a big issue to socialism has become a huge issue. And I think the reason that you well know is because not only have you seen the election of socialist candidates in places like New York and even in Seattle,

[00:01:22] but then of course now it looks like we'll probably have a socialist mayor in the District of Columbia. And then we just of course, as I mentioned the other day, and we will get into in more detail tomorrow, had the election in the primary of two individuals in very democratically secure districts of socialists as well.

[00:01:45] One of those is Darylisa Avila Siboliar, and she won the Democratic primary in the 13th Congressional District on Tuesday. And she is an individual that has talked about seizing the means of production. She talked about abolishing the police, abolishing prisons, if you can believe that, getting rid of any kind of natural borders,

[00:02:10] and also, and this is well documented, and I'll get into this in just a minute, supporting the destruction of the state of Israel. We may devote almost the entire first hour tomorrow to address some of those issues. This article by Brittany Bernstein is one I've posted for you today, but we're going to go more into who she is. By the way, she's not the only one. Claire Valdez also won the primary, and she's another with the Democratic Socialists of America.

[00:02:36] And these are individuals that probably will be elected because of who their constituency is and how the particular Democratic district so gerrymandered that it's pretty likely. And it was intriguing to see that she won when she ran against the chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. Now, it is difficult to unseat an incumbent.

[00:03:05] It's even more difficult to unseat somebody who is heading up a congressional caucus because he or she probably has all sorts of funding and all sorts of things. So to completely, as a first-time candidate, unseat a very liberal Democrat, but he was apparently for some of the people in the 13th Congressional District not liberal enough, and so that is the case.

[00:03:34] But don't take my word for it. This article you can read by Brittany Bernstein quotes then from CNN. And CNN has done the work for us because they have actually then posted information about, isn't this surprising, the now-deleted account on X, which includes, and this is their words, CNN's words, thousands of posts and reposts expressing support for abolishing police,

[00:04:01] abolishing prisons, and abolishing borders, as well as seizing private property, nationalizing major industries, and calling into question even the right of Israel to exist. If you want to have somebody who could be considered a card-carrying socialist or communist, a hold of our booklet here, she qualifies. So anybody that says we're just referring to her in that way, that's how she refers to herself as well.

[00:04:29] In her biography, you can go to her platform there, you can see, interestingly enough, that she has hashtags like hashtag free Palestine, also tagged occupied the land, hashtag black lives matter, on and on. She also says she has a real penchant for communism. As a matter of fact, she actually is convinced that this is the case. As a matter of fact, in 2019, she even uses the phrase,

[00:04:58] this is Karl Marx, seize the means of production. These are individuals who, from any reasonable stance, could be considered socialists, because that's how they describe themselves. This booklet I did a while back on the Democratic Socialists of America, something we'll get into with Dr. Merrill Matthews, because he says the Democratic Party is becoming the Bernie Party, and we'll talk about that in just a minute.

[00:05:24] But, again, she even talks about not only seizing the means of production, but also she, when was challenged about, what do you really mean by defund the police? She says it means ending policing full stop, period. No more police at all, ever. This is probably about a radical candidate we have seen in some time.

[00:05:49] And when informed about some of this, the current mayor of New York City, Zoran Mamdani, actually said he wasn't aware of her past comments when he endorsed her, but he didn't pull his endorsement nevertheless. So, again, who is this individual? We're going to go into it in more detail tomorrow, because there's some very good articles, not only by Dr. Merrill Matthews, but by John Fund and by Charles Cook and a variety of other individuals.

[00:06:19] She is a 32-year-old investigator at the Public Defender's Office in New York City, also is a doctoral student in sociology at the City University of New York, studying the ways, this is her words, the ways black immigrants from Latin America are impacted by the U.S. criminal system and deportation. Shows you kind of where she is there. And, of course, you have had situations where she in the past has been out there in these demonstrations.

[00:06:45] One was the demonstration all out for Palestine and actually cheering on Hamas. As a matter of fact, she was one of the individuals cheering, saying 700. At that time, that was the known death toll of Israelis. Now we know it's 1,200. But at the time, she was cheering 700, 700, 700, which was the death toll of those who were killed by Hamas

[00:07:14] and making all sorts of other obscene gestures. We won't go into the detail, but you can read this article on your own. And shouting, globalize the Intifada, and even talking about trying to combat all sorts of influence there as well, including, of course, the whole idea of disinvestment. So we're talking about someone pretty radical indeed. We're going to take a break. When we come back, I want to move away from that,

[00:07:42] but in some respects go to something that is very close to that, and that is John Stossel. He, of course, puts out videos. And I watched a video the other day, and now he has a column that goes with it, in which we are seeing that many of these socialists, we'll now talk about what's going on in Seattle, are individuals that are changing whether or not people can be involved in what's called gig work.

[00:08:09] And some of these jobs involve, you know, things like dog walking, rover. My daughter, by the way, does rover. Tax Rabbit, DoorDash, Uber, Lyft, whatever. And in an effort to, quote, help those individuals involved in gig work, they basically have made it much more difficult for them to even use those particular technologies and those particular gig work opportunities.

[00:08:37] So once socialists are convinced that they're going to do good, here's a good illustration out of Seattle to show that they do great harm. We'll be right back. This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson.

[00:09:06] There's a phrase I often hear at conferences and on YouTube videos that is usually credited to Lynn Alden, author of the excellent book, Broken Money. She and others often use the phrase, nothing stops this train, to illustrate the unstoppable momentum of fiscal deficits. She borrowed the phrase from a line in the program, Breaking Bad. Ray Dalio is a billionaire hedge fund manager and founder of Bridgewater Associates. I think he might start using the phrase. He was in Washington, D.C. to meet with senior leaders on the Republican side and Democratic side about the budget deficit.

[00:09:35] He explained that virtually everyone agrees that you have to get the budget deficit down to 3% of GDP. He then asked them the logical question, why can't you make a pledge that you will get it down to 3%? They explained the absolute policies that must exist. You must make statements like, I will absolutely pledge not to raise your taxes. I will absolutely pledge not to reduce your benefits. He concluded that this is the equivalent of an absolute pledge not to change the trajectory we're on in order to have a better set of circumstances

[00:10:04] than the likely financial crash they were going to have. He lamented that they all agree about the consequences of this debt problem and they all agree that they cannot speak up about it because their constituents would throw them out of office and their political parties would exert enough pressure on them that it is impossible to make those compromising statements and actions that bring together the revenue and expenses to produce a good budget. You know, we have a $39 trillion national debt and nearly $2 trillion deficits each year.

[00:10:33] Ray Dalio's conversation with the political leadership illustrates that Congress can't stop the debt train. And that's why I've concluded nothing stops this train. I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view. Go deeper on topics like you just heard by visiting pointofview.net. That's pointofview.net.

[00:11:00] You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. By now you've probably figured out that the theme of socialism is going to be around for a while. If for no other reason, then we've seen the election of certain candidates, but also just the kind of policies that have been implemented. Let's go to the city of Seattle. The mayor there, Katie Wilson, but this was actually implemented by the Seattle City Council,

[00:11:26] which is made up of some pretty radical individuals as well. And John Stossel, in his piece, which we've posted for you to read if you would like, or you can watch the video, says, not long ago, new kinds of jobs appeared. And these are what are called app-based gig work. And I mentioned a few, Rover and DoorDash and Uber and Lyft and all the rest. But over time, some of the so-called workers' rights advocates, and especially many of the socialists,

[00:11:55] have said, wait a minute, if people are involved in what's called gig work, they don't necessarily vote with the unions. They don't even join the unions. And sometimes they're working really long and hard, and they don't even get minimum wage. So it's time to fix that. So the Democratic Socialists have a solution. Seattle City Council imposed a $26 delivery driver minimum wage. So what could go wrong?

[00:12:24] I mean, again, the argument would be, well, gig workers don't make enough money. So we'll just make sure that they get paid more. But you know, if you know anything about economics, what's going to happen next? Because what you then had to do is that DoorDash and Uber Eats had to add at least a $5 fee to consumers to help cover the cost of these regulations.

[00:12:51] And then you started getting complaints from the various residents of Seattle saying, I ordered a $12 sandwich. First of all, it's amazing to pay $12 for a sandwich. But we'll set that aside. And that grew to $32. Imagine thinking that it wasn't so long ago that I could pay $5 or $6 for a sandwich. Okay, I'll put up with $12. But I'm not expecting to spend $32 for a sandwich.

[00:13:21] And this resident said, well, you know what? I just deleted the app. And guess what? Nobody should be surprised. If you know anything about economics, work became so slow that DoorDash received 1.7 million fewer orders from Seattle. This, of course, is what happens when politicians dictate wages. Well, one of the people that John Stossel interviewed was Judge Glock.

[00:13:51] That is his name. Although we will be talking about now California trying to ban the sale of Glock guns. But that's a different story. We'll get to that another day. And he said, first of all, obviously, when you're increasing cost to businesses, you're going to, by definition, increase the cost to consumers. And so instead of saying, okay, maybe this was a mistake to impose a $26 delivery driver minimum wage,

[00:14:21] instead of saying we made a mistake, the former Seattle City Council president, that would be Sarah Nelson, said, well, we created a problem, and it's our responsibility to fix it. But instead of repealing the harmful law, they said, no, we just need to readjust the numbers. If we had gotten the minimum pay standard right, we would not see a decline in the revenue. These people live on a world that is convinced that money grows on trees.

[00:14:50] Price controls never work. John Stossel points out flexible pricing does. And again, Judge Glock says, you know, we get these smug politicians think that if they can just get the price right, then everything is going to work out. And they're not going to have any improved well-being for the people. Instead, what they find is a lot of people that depended on the so-called gig work had to go somewhere else.

[00:15:14] And lest you think that Seattle is a one-off, I will now pick on maybe Zoran Mamdani, the mayor of New York City. And in this particular case, they have a similar minimum wage, which is, again, for apt-based drivers. And again, Judge Glock said, the decrease in tips and the increased competition for jobs offset all the gains that the imposed minimum wage would have provided.

[00:15:44] It's this continual whack-a-mole tendency, he said. The market responds, so politicians try to pass a new regulation to try to prevent that response. They think the next regulation will somehow squelch the greed out of the system. But it's just not going to happen. So again, this is a piece that just reminds you that the economic system works when you allow the economic system to work.

[00:16:08] And the economic system fails when you try to impose your desire to force prices and wages in a way that simply doesn't make economic sense. Which brings me to my last piece, which we'll probably talk about a little bit more tomorrow, by Byron York. Republicans hang on.

[00:16:27] He points out that by most estimates, we know historically that the president's party almost always loses House seats during midterm elections. Since the 1930s, you've only had like two exceptions to it. And when you look at the direction of the country, you have 59 percent, almost 60 percent, almost six out of ten people saying the country is going in the wrong direction.

[00:16:55] And so they may, for one reason, blame members of Congress or the president. The economy at the moment isn't doing as well as it could be, although I certainly see the stock market going up, prices of oil going down. But, of course, you have that whole history as well. And so, again, one of the writers, Byron York, for, of course, his newspaper, points out that if you put everything together,

[00:17:22] it would seem that you would have at least a massive Democratic victory. But why not a blowout? And he says, well, there's plenty of reasons for it. We've just been talking about that. He says, you know, there's some serious problems that Republicans might have. But the biggest problem, he points out, is the voting public's low regard for Democrats.

[00:17:50] In the real clear politics average, the favorability of the Democratic Party, you ready for this? Thirty seconds, 36 percent. The unfavorable is 56 percent. Now, again, I'm not saying that Republicans are doing much better. But if you both do not like the Republicans or the Democrats, it's maybe a little less likely that they're going to want to vote for either party.

[00:18:19] And so we'll see where that comes. But I think it is very interesting to see that as well. There's another factor, of course, and that is gerrymandering, which we've been talking about for some time. And again, one strategist put it this way. The whole map has been gradually gerrymandered to the point where 80 percent of the congressional races are won entirely in the primaries. I just alluded to that a minute ago. That's true on the Republican side. It's true on the Democratic side.

[00:18:49] There was a time when people would say things like, I vote for the man, not the party. The middle was as high as 25 percent of the vote. Now the middle or the so-called swing voters may be about 12 percent. So the harsh reality is if you're a Democrat running in a Democratic majority congressional seat in district, probably going to get reelected.

[00:19:14] Now, a couple of these individuals have been able to unseat incumbents, but they're still Democrats. So they're still in Democratic seats. When you look at the Republican side, the same thing. These have been gerrymandered as well. And as a result, as I've said before, it was more likely to remove a member of the Soviet Politburo than to remove some of the individuals from some of these districts. So we'll see where it goes.

[00:19:42] Historically, it has been very much the case since the 1930s that the president's power, that would be the Republican president's power, a party, actually loses in midterm elections. There actually were a first two times in which you had, of course, in 1998 during Bill Clinton's impeachment. Again, in 2002 and the aftermath after the 9-11 terrorist attacks.

[00:20:07] But most of the time you see that in this case, because you have a Republican in the White House, Republicans would lose seats in the House. We'll see how that goes. But as Byron York points out, Republicans hang on.

[00:20:23] And one of the reasons is the topics we just addressed a minute ago, whether it's socialist candidates winning in the District of Columbia, in the New York primary, or even in, of course, places like Seattle and New York City and all sorts of other places, or even the policies that have been implemented. It certainly has changed the equation in a remarkable way.

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[00:23:05] The opinions expressed on Point of View do not necessarily reflect the views of the management or staff of this station. And now, here again, is Kirby Anderson. Back once again in this last half hour, we are privileged to have with us once again Robert Knight, a good friend of this ministry, author and regular weekly columnist for The Washington Times. Of course, we have a link to his website and, of course, an individual that has served as a news editor for the Los Angeles Times

[00:23:32] and a variety of different venues as well. We have posted his piece more recently, The Clock is Ticking and Iran Knows It. Also thought we would get into a couple others that he's talked about in terms of how various mobs have begun to take over churches and the rest. Author of many books, Liberty on the Brink, The Coming Communist Wave. And, Robert, I would be remiss if we didn't, for a few minutes, get you talking about communism and socialism.

[00:24:00] Because it does seem to me, whether you're in Washington, D.C. or the state of New York, it seems like, or even Seattle, Washington, everywhere we go we're picking up someone else that is a socialist taking over our government. What are your thoughts? Well, you're probably referencing the recent election in New York, Kirby, which shocked the Democratic Party because the farthest out leftists won all the races,

[00:24:29] at least the ones in New York City, three congressional races, and they're in Democratic districts, so they will win in November. And the three people who won are all the way to the left. They want government takeover of health care. They want free child care. They're anti-capitalist. One of the most shocking things is that they are anti-Israel. They're openly anti-Semitic. One of them talked about wiping her hands on the American flag,

[00:24:57] and that this country, you know, she hates this country. And these are people who previously in America wouldn't have a whisper of a chance of being elected to anything, much less Congress. And yet there we have it in New York City. New York Mayor Mandami, Zoran Mandami, endorsed them all, and he's happy as can be. And he's a far leftist.

[00:25:27] He's an Islamist. He's anti-Israel. He has people around him who are openly anti-Semitic and call for eliminating Israel. And the hardest thing to believe, Kirby, is this is happening in New York City. It has the largest Jewish population in the world. It's amazing. Isn't it amazing? Well, I'll tell you what explains it. The Democrats have perfected the turnout, especially among Muslims.

[00:25:56] There are now hundreds of thousands of Muslims now in New York City. And I understand that 93 percent of them voted as opposed to maybe, I don't know, 40 percent of the Jews in New York. So if you have a sizable minority that wants to throw its weight around, you could end up with basically Islamist slash communist congressmen. And again, just pick out one. We're going to spend some time tomorrow talking about that.

[00:26:25] And I did before you came on in the 13th Congressional District. Daryl, he's a Vila Sheva there. But here is an individual that not only has talked about wanting to destroy Israel and was one of the ones shouting 700 because that was at the time how many they thought had been killed in Israel by Hamas. But wants to actually seize the means of production, abolish the police. She made it very clear. We're not just defund the police. We just don't want to have police at all. Don't want to have prisons. Don't want to have borders.

[00:26:56] These are very radical. And as an individual who grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area, yes, we had candidates like that ran every once in a while for the Communist Party. They didn't win. These candidates, whether it's her or Claire Valdez or Zoran Mamdani or just a few minutes ago we were talking about what is going on in Seattle. You have the mayor there, Katie Wilson. These are beyond the pale. These are true democratic socialists, are they not?

[00:27:26] Yeah, and the term democratic socialist doesn't really explain how far out they are. They are communists. They want the government to own the means of production. Once you do that, there's no freedom left because the government can do what they do in communist China, which is have a social credit system where if you step out of line and challenge the party in any way,

[00:27:49] they use centralized bank digital currency to cancel any transactions you have. So say you criticize a government official, suddenly you can't get on a train, get on an airplane, buy food for your family. I mean, this is the totalitarian nightmare that these people have been advocating for the United States. I mean, it's hard to believe, but here we are. We are.

[00:28:17] My guest in the first hours is talking about how they have some Chinese students that are waiting to get their actual visa, but the visa is waiting because they're checking the social credit score of these Chinese students, and if by chance they'd said anything critical of the government, that was enough to revoke some of those. So that is already a reality in certain parts of the world, and it shows where we're headed.

[00:28:41] So I'll hold up our booklets here on capitalism, socialism, and even on the road to serfdom, because these are the kinds of things we'll be talking about even tomorrow. Of course, our February issue was on our Christianity and socialism compatible, and I got a feeling we got a preview to a future Robert Knight column, so we will certainly post that when it comes out. But I did want to do a little bit of time talking about this piece that you did write,

[00:29:10] The Clock is Ticking and Iran Knows It, because people are saying, why can't we resolve what's going on in Iran? And Iran leaders know, and I've actually seen one place where they actually gave an English translation of some of the things that one of the leaders was saying. We know that we can push them because things like elections and midterms and all the rest prevent them from actually being able to be successful.

[00:29:39] We're not big enough to stand up to them, but we know that their weakness is, and you've been writing about the fact that the clock is ticking, and Iran is well aware of it, aren't they? Yeah, Iran is a totalitarian regime like communist China, and they don't have to face elections, and they know that our representatives do, including President Trump's party. The Republicans are in the ballot on every House seat in the country in November,

[00:30:07] and people are upset about gas prices. You know, they went back up over $4 a gallon. Of course, people forget that under Joe Biden, they went as high as $5 a gallon. But, and the inflation we're dealing with, well, this is on top of the 20% inflation over the four years of the Biden administration. So people have very short memories, and the Iranians, like any good totalitarians,

[00:30:35] are counting on the attention span of the American public to say, oh, stop the pain. Do whatever you have to do. Sign anything. Sign anything. Just make sure oil gets cheaper again, and I can show up my car. You know, I think President Trump has to do a couple things. One, I'd prefer he did more to arrange regime change, because I think if he leaves in place the Ayatollahs,

[00:31:02] we're going to just go down and have to do it again in a couple years. The other thing is he has to explain to the American people why he bombed in the first place, sparing us from a nuclear Iran. I mean, this is a group that's so radical, they're trying to bring about an apocalypse. They're 12th Twolvers, which is a reference to the 12th Imam, who is supposed to be alive today and will be brought back to end the world

[00:31:31] if they can generate enough chaos. This is not like dealing with even the Chinese or the Russians. We're dealing with people who, if they got the nuclear bomb, would use it, first on Israel, then us. So President Trump did the right thing. He went after their nuclear capacity, and they started picking on shipping in the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz.

[00:31:56] And people of Iran have been slaughtered in the streets. It's really time for this regime to go. But President Trump only has, what, six months, five months to the next election. And people, he's got to get those gas prices down. So let me float this idea, Kirby. Could it be that what he has up his sleeve is, okay, we're going to have this memorandum of understanding,

[00:32:26] which nobody likes, and then wait for the midterm elections. And then after that, maybe I can deal with Iran the way I really want to. Yeah, I'm wondering about that. Yeah. See, we can postpone it. And at least, as you point out in your column here, you're hoping that you're not talking about a Senator James Tallarico or Senator Graham Plattner. So we will get into that after the break. And also, I just thought I might mention something we wanted to talk about when we didn't get you on last time.

[00:32:54] What's a little mob attack on a church service? And that reminds us of the fact that sometimes people think, well, I'm safe because I'm not speaking about these political issues. Well, it doesn't make any difference. Some of them thinking that there were some ICE agents that had actually been in that church was enough to have this poor church in St. Paul, Minnesota, attacked. And that's another piece by Robert Knight. If you'd like to know more about Robert Knight, of course, as we always do,

[00:33:23] we have all sorts of links to his website, to his other social media. And, of course, we have a couple of the columns that we've posted so that you can read those. I would certainly encourage you to do so. And we'll come back and continue our conversation with our good friend Robert Knight right after this.

[00:33:40] You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. Back for a few more minutes with Robert Knight.

[00:34:06] And, again, if you'd like to know more about him or a variety of different organizations that he's involved with, we certainly have all those links on the website at pointofview.net. But, Robert, I thought for just a minute we'd go back to something you wrote still in this last month. You wrote it in June. But you were talking about something that happened in January at Cities Church in St. Paul, Minnesota. And the reason you did so is, first of all, we need to talk about what happened.

[00:34:33] You called it What's a Little Mob Attack on the Church Service. And so, first of all, we have talked about this. As a matter of fact, we oftentimes talk about your columns even when you're not on. But the reason for the column in June, because that was back in January, is then the decision by the city attorney to dismiss the case. So if you want to actually encourage more people actually disrupting church services, keep deciding not to press charges.

[00:35:03] And it does seem to me that your piece that you wrote just earlier this month is a warning to every church in America. But give us the background and why you thought this was something you needed to write about. Well, in January, a mob broke into Cities Church in St. Paul and disrupted the service, scared children, left them in tears, mobbed the people. It wrecked the service, and then they harangued them as they exited.

[00:35:33] Just something out of 1930s Nazi Germany. And they were charged with all kinds of charges. And then in early June, the St. Paul City attorney, Irene Cowell, dismissed all the state charges, saying, quote, the right to peacefully protest is protected, as is the right to exercise one's religious beliefs. Balancing these equally important rights is paramount to our decision today. And I ask, what do you mean balancing?

[00:36:02] This mob comes in and wrecks their freedom of religion. Nobody has the right to come into a private property, and that's what churches are, and disrupt a service. And she's saying, yeah, they do, because it's free speech. And she's a Democrat, of course. So she's all for exercising free speech at the expense of churches and doesn't see anything wrong with it.

[00:36:31] I like what Phil Donahue said, the head of the Catholic League. And he said, if people of faith cannot practice their religion without intimidation and interference, it means their First Amendment right to religious liberty means nothing. And he said about her, he said, you know, if your workplace was invaded by a mob,

[00:36:57] I don't think that it would stop you from screaming to high heaven if protesters invaded your space. But you don't seem to have any problem when it's a church being invaded. This is serious stuff, because if you don't push back, it just gets worse. Let's look and broaden it a little bit, because we've had Kelly Shackelford on most Fridays, or someone else from First Liberty. Because, as you point out, we're not just talking about churches. How about synagogues?

[00:37:23] Think of all the anti-Semitic incidents, not only in this country, but especially overseas. Then let's also talk about mosques, because they're not immune either. And so, in some respects, once you start a precedent that says, I can step into your service, and it could be a synagogue, it could be a mosque, or it could be a church, it could be Protestant or Catholic. Once that's allowed, once I then reward bad behavior,

[00:37:51] I think you're going to get more bad behavior, don't you think? Yeah, that's what we saw on college campuses during the anti-Semitic protests. Nothing happened to the protesters, and they were making Jewish students terrified, telling them they're not welcome on campus anymore. Until the Trump administration stepped in and went after the college administrators, nothing happened. The protests got worse.

[00:38:21] And you have to push back on this stuff. You can't just sit back and hope it goes away. And we've seen what's happened in Great Britain, where a lot of immigrant Muslims have been doing terrible things to girls and women, and the authorities have been afraid to do anything, because they don't want to be called racist or Islamophobic.

[00:38:49] So thousands of girls have been victims. And I won't get into how bad it was, but the news media have ignored this. All major networks in the U.S. have ignored this major report that was just issued by a member of parliament that's just eye-opening. And we're seeing a pattern now, and this will be my next column, Kirby, about these huge major stories that the media are ignoring, because they're not happening.

[00:39:18] It looks like Soviet news coverage, where they only print things that push their agenda and nothing else. Yeah, I mean, on her way out the door, the head of national intelligence gives all this information about Anthony Fauci. And not only does the Washington Post not cover it, they do a hit piece on Tulsi Gabbard two days later, and nobody covers it. So I'm looking forward, as I always am, to every Robert Knight column.

[00:39:44] And it is amazing how many times these stories come out, and the mainstream press or the legacy press doesn't cover it at all. This was a huge story. She's got chapter and verse of how Anthony Fauci arranged for taxpayer funding of the Echo Health Alliance, which then funded bat virus research in Wuhan,

[00:40:07] in the laboratory, which has pretty much been identified as where the COVID virus was hatched and escaped, and lied about it before Congress. I mean, this is huge. Of course, you know, on his way out, Joe Biden issued an auto pen pardon of Dr. Fauci. But still, this is a major story, because COVID affected the whole world. And we had lockdowns. We had people dying.

[00:40:35] We had vaccines forced on people. I mean, this is huge. And they're saying, nothing to see here. Well, again, we did cover it just the other day, and we cover these stories. And just before we wind down today, we're in the midst of our fiscal year end, and I thought for just a minute you've appreciated the fact that we do cover the kind of stories that you try to write about, but the mainstream press ignores. What would you encourage our donors to do if they would want to support this ministry?

[00:41:03] Oh, look, folks, the media have gotten worse and worse. And I used to be in it. I was at the L.A. Times and several other papers. And I've never seen it this bad, where they are so dedicated to a left-wing agenda, and they hate President Trump so much that they skew everything. You need to get other sources for your information. And Point of View is one of the best out there. Kirby does a heck of a job.

[00:41:30] I've listened to him over the years, and I've been on the program. And he's right up to speed on everything. And you can get stuff you're just not going to get anywhere else. So if you like this option and you should take advantage of it, you really ought to donate to Point of View. Well, again, Robert, I appreciate your encouragement. And always great to have you on here. Let me just mention that we do have a banner there that says Restoring America's Godly Heritage. There's a green, excuse me, a red button.

[00:42:00] We've got some green ones, too. But the Give No Out button is a green, a red button that you can click on. And, again, that is at the website, pointofview.net. Of course, you can give us a call at 800-347-5151. Well, I know what I'm going to be posting as soon as it comes out, and that is your next column. So, Robert Knight, it is always a delight to have you on the program. Thank you for writing about issues that many of the people in the mainstream press are ignoring. And I look forward to the next opportunity.

[00:42:30] Okay, Kirby. It's always good being on Point of View with you. Well, let me just real quickly mention, again, we have that button that says Give Now. It's a red button. And, again, you can also go to the website, pointofview.net. You can also give us a call. Even though we're going off the air, we'll answer the phone, 800-347-5151. Of course, we have a match on the table, a dollar-for-dollar match, so we'd love to hear from you.

[00:42:54] As always, I thank both of the Megans for engineering the program and producing the program. Looking forward to our Friday weekend edition right here on Point of View. To pass the torch of freedom to the next generation, the first thing we need to do is restore America's moral character.

[00:43:22] The founders knew that people need checks and balances, and that is why our federal government has three branches. But what about internal checks and balances? Human beings need an internal sense of accountability to something greater than themselves, to someone who motivates them to respect the law and love their neighbors. And that's why we believe that America needs to recover and restore biblical values.

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