Point of View June 24, 2026 – Hour 2 : America’s 250th Anniversary, Prayers & Presidents

[00:00:04] Across America, Live, this is Point of View, Kirby Anderson. Second hour today, we're going to spend some time, first of all, looking at a couple other issues in the news, then we're going to talk with our good friend William Federer. And I might just mention the particular Outlook magazine, which I'm holding up right now for those of you watching online.

[00:00:34] Of course, you can find out more about that by going to the website pointofview.net. The latest one is a special edition where we've had a number of additional writers. One of those is William Federer. And I thought, what an interesting correlation. I didn't point it out at the time, but Richard Lim was talking about how, in some respects, the founders were looking at the Hebrew Scriptures and really trying to get some principles that they could apply to this new republic that they were establishing.

[00:01:03] And this article by William Federer is entitled, Hebrew Republic Influenced Americans Founders. So, in some respects, there's a very good and very logical correlation between what Richard Lim has coming out in his book and one of the many articles in this enhanced edition. It is a very special edition, so much so that we're starting to get requests from people saying, could you give us a few extra copies? I want to give one to every one of my children.

[00:01:32] I'd like to maybe hold it up and encourage people to support Point of View and get some of the resources that you have there. So, again, it's the July issue of Outlook. One of the benefits, one of the many benefits of supporting this ministry, if you're a monthly donor, you'll receive that. Of course, if you give at the Truth Team level, you'll also receive the booklets and some really great material that we've been making available in that regard. With that in mind, I thought we'd talk about Alexis de Tocqueville for just a minute.

[00:02:02] And the reason for that is my next column really is talking about all the things happening in this country right now. Now, Selena Zito, first of all, talks about Flag Day in Pennsylvania, where you had all sorts of people gathering to see this huge locomotive. And I'm really into trains. If you were to look on my second floor of my house, you'll see a lot of HO trains and tracks and things there.

[00:02:28] But even if you're not into trains, you need to, if nothing else, type in Union Pacific's Big Boy, or probably just Big Boy. Of course, it might take you to Hamburger Joint. But Big Boy Locomotive would be enough because this is a monster locomotive. And it's one that every time it goes down the tracks, it attracts so much attention. So she says, you know, the locomotive is a reminder of what American workers, engineers, and laborers are capable of building

[00:02:56] and continuing to honor that part of the American ethos of exceptionalism. But she uses that as saying, well, sometimes you can draw a crowd with a train. You can draw a lot more of a crowd when you have the World Cup coming to North America. And in particular, of course, what has been happening here in the United States.

[00:03:16] And she says that what is so intriguing is that you have this phenomenon of European soccer fans really beginning to have all sorts of very interesting experiences, which you can see on YouTube and Instagram and all sorts of things. She talks about, for example, social media has been filled with fans such as Freddie from Germany,

[00:03:40] who has really enjoyed discovering food at Waffle House and Bucky's and going to a Walmart and all sorts of things. And she says Freddie's colorful and joyful accounts are a dramatic reversal of the conventional wisdom that Europeans have about the United States. He points out a poll, which I'd never seen before, that the European Council on Foreign Relations actually found that only 11% of European countries

[00:04:10] Europeans across 15 countries view the United States as a reliable partner, which I think is kind of interesting given the fact we sort of wonder if Europeans have been a reliable partner in this war with Iran. But nevertheless, you can see that some of them have seen a very different America than they expected. She talks about this Scottish footballer fan, Sean Hamilton,

[00:04:33] and an individual there that, of course, was, I guess, first in Boston, which is where we sent Jeff Mateer to watch the Scottish play up there in that particular game. I think we played, if I remember right, Haiti. And what was so interesting is when they were up there, the German fans referred to an individual as Alexis de Tocqueville, which is kind of a play on the words Alexis de Tocqueville. But de Tocqueville, you know, came to America in 1831.

[00:05:03] We're just shy about 200 years of that. And he was astonished, as many of these modern Europeans are today, because he had the expectations and the comments from many of the elites in Europe about America. And he was really amazed. He wrote in his book, for example, Democracy in America, that Americans of all ages constantly unite.

[00:05:29] He went on to say, not only do they have commercial and industrial associations in which all take part, but they also have a thousand other kinds, religious, moral, grave, feudal, very general, very particular, immense, and very small. And interestingly enough, de Tocqueville visited the United States when we were in the midst of an era of rapid change.

[00:05:52] That was, in a sense, the very significant beginnings of the Industrial Revolution, which had come from, of course, Europe to the United States. At the same time, there were people moving westward, not necessarily deciding to live in cities, but willing to go out to the west, build these transportation systems, including the trains which we talked about, and roadways and canals and things of that nature.

[00:06:19] And in some respects, what she says is, does this sort of sound familiar? Because we're in a moment of rapid change as well. No, we're not building highways. We're building high-tech superhighways. No, we aren't involved in an industrial revolution. We're involved in a digital revolution with artificial intelligence and the Internet and things of that nature.

[00:06:44] And if nothing else, this industrial revolution is really having a political and cultural impact. And so it's really interesting because she said, you know, Freddie and Sean likely had no idea what to expect when arriving here. If they read the European press or read the Atlantic, at least she could have even put in the Telegraph, they probably had some pretty dark sense of what America was.

[00:07:09] And what de Tocqueville found instead were Americans who were constantly developing ways and tools for creating associations, both large and small, associations with widely different interests from small local sports and community or religious groups with little or no internal order or vast networks. And you can think of the Rotary Club and you can think of the Elks Club and Grange and 4-H and Lions and all the rest.

[00:07:38] And so in some respects, there is a sense in which people have said the very interesting infusion for a relatively short period of time of all of these soccer fans, or they would call it football fans, or they would call it football fans in the World Cup, are reminiscent of the 1830s when de Tocqueville came to this country. And maybe someday we'll spend a little bit of time talking about his book, Democracy in America,

[00:08:05] because some of the things he found there illustrates again why America even then was seen as exceptional and why certainly today it is seen as exceptional. So I thought it was a delightful little piece that pulled together a little bit of American history, but also reminded us of what is taking place right now.

[00:08:28] And if you have not gone out on social media, go to TikTok, go to Instagram, go to YouTube, just type in World Cup or Europeans. Some of these are just delightful stories of people that are just amazed at what they can find at a Texas Roadhouse or a Buc-ee's. We'll be right back.

[00:09:00] This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson. I've talked about the male crisis in previous commentaries, but it is encouraging to find an op-ed in USA Today by an author who begins by quoting a feminist. Nicole Russell quotes a feminist who concluded, If civilization had been left in female hands, we'd still be living in grass huts. Men are not optional, even though the current culture has made them feel that way.

[00:09:27] She observes that a culture that repeatedly devalues men should not be surprised when so many struggle to find purpose, confidence and direction. To quote C.S. Lewis, We make men without chests and expect them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. She points to a recent New York Times discussion on a podcast in which the participants lament that young men are in crisis and don't find any encouragement from the left.

[00:09:53] Therefore, they head to the far right who are welcoming them with open arms. While that may be overstated, the direction is clear. Why spend time with liberals or even vote for liberals if they refer to your masculinity as toxic? Speaking of toxic, I would recommend the book by Nancy Peercy, The Toxic War on Masculinity. Three years ago, I interviewed her on her book and appreciated her sound biblical perspective. She discovered that men who attend church regularly shatter all the negative stereotypes.

[00:10:22] They're more loving to their wives, more emotionally engaged with their children than any other group in America. They're less likely to divorce and less likely to commit domestic violence. Men are essential unless you want to live in grass huts. They need to be encouraged and can find that encouragement in the church. The first step is to get men back to church. I'm Kirby Anderson and that's my point of view.

[00:10:49] Go deeper on topics like you just heard by visiting pointofview.net. That's pointofview.net. You're listening to Point of View, your listener supported source for truth. In just a few more minutes, we'll get a chance to talk with our good friend William Federer. And we have posted a very good piece that he has posted just recently on his American Minute about Patrick Henry.

[00:11:17] So I thought that would be a great story to hear. Might also get his thoughts about the article he wrote for us in the Outlook magazine, which has now just come out and should be arriving at your mailbox. If you don't already have it, just be looking for it. The Hebrew Republic influenced America's founders. But before we do that, while we're talking about America, it would be appropriate, I think, for just a minute to go to a commentary that I wrote just a few days ago called Keeping Our Republic.

[00:11:44] And it is a piece that really comes from Robert George. He is a professor at Princeton. He's been on the program with us before. Individual that we have such great respect for. Interestingly enough, he reminds us of, of course, this famous story that on the very last day of the Constitutional Convention, Benjamin Franklin walked out, was asked what form of government was being proposed for the United States. And, of course, his famous reply was, a republic, madam, if you can keep it.

[00:12:14] Now, he admitted right off the bat that some of the reasons we've been able to keep it is because, and I'll hold up my copy of the Declaration and Constitution, which we still make available free of charge for anybody who would like to get a copy of it. Some of that has to do with some of the things we just talked about a minute ago with Richard Lim. And that is, we do have some limits, for example, on the president in Article 2. And so he acknowledges that, look, many presidents have pushed the limits of their power in office.

[00:12:44] But he reminds us that as we commemorate the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, we also celebrate a quarter millennium without an American Caesar or a Napoleon. That's something. It's certainly not what other countries have endured. Once they've written a constitution, it only lasted for a short period of time. But it brings us back to a comment I made just a few minutes ago with Richard Lim.

[00:13:12] And that is George Washington. Again, he comes up time and time again. Observed in his first inaugural address that the preservation of the sacred fire of liberty. And we're going to be talking about the sacred fire book that has been out for many years and get into that again.

[00:13:30] But he says the preservation of the sacred fire of liberty and the destiny of the Republican model of government are justly considered as deeply, perhaps as finely staked on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American people.

[00:13:47] In other words, reading through some of the convoluted 18th century grammar, basically the reason we are going to be successful or when we won't be successful is to recognize that we have put this in the hands of the American people. And if the American people are helpful in building the republic and leading to flourishing of this republic, then it will last.

[00:14:14] If indeed the people take advantage of that and their graft and their corruption, their ambition, their avarice, that will destroy the country. And so it led to some pretty good quotes. And one of which I just used in this commentary was well known from John Adams, who said, Our Constitution is made for a moral and religious people, and it is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

[00:14:44] Professor Robert George put it this way. He said, Because a people lacking in virtue could be counted on to trade liberty for protection, for financial security, for personal security, for comfort, or just even having their problems solved. And so in some respects, the argument he makes, and really the argument the founders made, was keeping our republic depends on a virtuous citizenship.

[00:15:13] Now here's the challenge that Robert George, as a professor at Princeton, no doubt reflecting on some of the students that he had under his teaching. He says, This is a challenge, he laments, because many Americans don't even know what a family is anymore, let alone how to be part of one or how to properly start one. And of course, church attendance has been dropping.

[00:15:39] We've talked about some of the small, but still somewhat significant reversals in that, but very small, unfortunately. And so if we're experiencing a decline in America, it's not because we have a problem with the constitutional order. It's not flawed. The political system isn't necessarily broken. The people are broken.

[00:16:30] The people are providing a pink slip to some of the people that need to go. So I think it is, once again, incumbent upon us not to always blame people in Washington, D.C. or in your state capital, whether it's Tallahassee, Florida, Sacramento, California, Austin, Texas, Albany, New York, Springfield, Illinois, wherever it might be. That is, I think, a mistake.

[00:16:54] We have to recognize that the people are, in some respects, the ones that are going to hold the sacred fire. And we will be talking about that next week as we get back into that book. But as I'm talking about a commentary, my one today, as I mentioned just a few minutes ago, but it's worth mentioning again, is on the male crisis, in which, again, we have Nicole Russell writing in USA Today about the fact that, if nothing else, we have a male crisis.

[00:17:23] And she quotes from C.S. Lewis. As a matter of fact, I quoted C.S. Lewis yesterday. Let's quote him again today. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. And so she points out the real need for us to make sure that we have strong men, men of integrity.

[00:17:47] And, of course, also the whole issue of toxicity, which is one of the things we'll get into tomorrow with our guest. I do mention, again, Nancy Pearcey's book, The Toxic War on Masculinity. And so there's a real need for men to show up. And that relates back to a commentary I wrote last week, and that is one in which we talk about the fact that there's a great deal of idleness in America.

[00:18:16] As a matter of fact, I titled the piece American Idol, I-D-L-E, because it's a play on words, because Jason Riley writes about this issue as well. Because according to the Department of Labor, one in three men were neither working nor looking for work the last time we measured that. Now, that's something we've talked about before. I've quoted Mike Rowe.

[00:18:41] I've quoted more academic Nicholas Eberstadt in his book Men Without Work. And it turns out that, again, just again, it's worth mentioning, we're not talking about people that are looking for work but can't find it. Because there are more jobs, I think, than maybe employees right now in certain sectors in our economy. These are men who are not only not working, they're not even looking for work.

[00:19:08] And if you dig into the numbers, you realize that this issue of joblessness, male joblessness, doesn't really stem from an inability to find employment. There are jobs available. It stems, in some cases, from a complete unwillingness of able-bodied men to search for work. And so this is one of the things we've been talking about for some time.

[00:19:33] I did a booklet a while back and, again, glad to make it available to you, a biblical point of view on work. Because the Bible says a lot about work. And it talks about supporting your family. And it talks about the need for us to address this issue. And Jason Riley points out that we, unfortunately, have a social safety net now that is full of really generous government benefits, which allow a lot of men to subsist and thus have to work.

[00:20:01] And it does seem to me that the solution is for the church to begin to speak to the issue. My commentary today, I even end by saying the first step is to get men back to church. Well, in my previous commentary, I've also said it may be a time for church leaders and pastors to preach and teach about a Christian work ethic. So those are some topics that we have been addressing for some time.

[00:20:26] And it, I think, ties all the way into the return of the republic and nothing else to make sure that we can keep our republic. But just before I take a break, I did put out a commentary the other day in which we talked about how important our freedom is. And our freedom is tied to our moral character, which is, of course, where you heard that quote I gave just a minute ago from John Adams. And also the need to educate people about what freedom is.

[00:20:55] And so if there's ever been a need for what we do at Point of View, it is certainly right now. As you heard just a few minutes ago, Richard Lim encouraged you to support this ministry. And you can do so by simply going to the website, pointofview.net. Go down to the banner there that says Restoring America's Godly Heritage. You can click on the banner and give. Of course, you can also give us a call. That number is 800-347-5151. 800-347-5151.

[00:21:24] One of us here at Point of View would be glad to take your call and chat with you. We'll be back with William Federer right after this. To pass the torture freedom to the next generation, the first thing we need to do is restore America's moral character. The founders knew that people need checks and balances. And that is why our federal government has three branches. But what about internal checks and balances?

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[00:22:50] Point of View will continue after this. You are listening to Point of View. The opinions expressed on Point of View do not necessarily reflect the views of the management or staff of this station. And now, here again, is Kirby Anderson.

[00:23:16] As I've been promoting, we are privileged now to bring back to the microphone William Federer. Bill Federer is a good friend of this ministry, an individual that speaks at about 100 cities a year, has about two dozen books. And again, I thought I might just mention a couple of things, because as we have been pointing out, our July issue of Outlook on Understanding America's Christian Heritage has a number of writers, in addition to writers here at Point of View,

[00:23:43] Jerry Newcomb, Mark David Hall, Timothy Gagline, and William Federer. And Bill, if nothing else, your piece on the Hebrew Republic-influenced America's founders correlates very well with the interview I did last hour for a while with Richard Lim, because he has a book coming out on Refusing a Crown, How George Washington Changed the World. But he was talking about how many of the founders tended to look at the Hebrew Scriptures,

[00:24:11] the Old Testament, especially during the time of Judges, and that was their model. And I see that you have, of course, written a very good piece for us in the Outlook on the influence of the Hebrew Republic on the American founders. Yeah, you know, we don't appreciate the Book of Judges, but when you compare it to all the world's history, it's Nimrod, Pharaoh, Caesar, Kaiser, Sultan, and Zahr. The default setting for human government is gangs,

[00:24:40] and a gang leader with enough weapons we call a king, or a Pharaoh, Caesar, Kaiser, Sultan, and Zahr. The name changes, but it's that same fallen nature, a king, kill, and able. You know, when you look at Noah's Ark landed on Mount Eret, down the mountain is the Mesopotamian Valley between the Tigris-Euphrates, and Nimrod building his tower. And that's the first instance of a gang leader king who wants to control people. Josephus, the Jewish commentator, said Nimrod wanted to build his tower so high

[00:25:10] that if God destroyed the world again with a flood, he could survive on top. And he made everybody in town bake bricks and bring them, or he would kill them. He wanted people to fear him rather than fear God. And so, since the population of the world is there, right, that's where most archaeologists and anthropologists and etymologists who study to spread a language said that it started in this fertile crescent, and Nimrod wanted to control it. In a sense, Nimrod was the first globalist. He was the first one-world government guy.

[00:25:40] God comes down, confuses the languages the people scatter into language groups that turned into nations. In a sense, nations are God's way to postpone a one-world government. Take the population of the world, break it into subgroups, they'll sort of cancel each other out. But every generation you have some king that wants to conquer other nations. And if left unchecked, he'd have been happy to conquer them all. And so you've got pharaohs and kings of Assyria and kings of Babylon

[00:26:08] and Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar and Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan. The kingdoms keep getting bigger until finally the king of England had the biggest. In a sense, the king of England was a globalist. He was a one-world government guy. And America's founders broke away and flipped it and made the people the king. And as you mentioned, where did the founders get their ideas? Well, a little Age of Enlightenment, a little Magna Carta, a little Roman Republic with 600 senators, maybe a little Athenian democracy with 6,000 citizens.

[00:26:38] But really, the first instance of millions of people and no king was ancient Israel, around 1400 B.C. to 1000 B.C. when they come out of Egypt. Here they are illiterate. They can't even read. They've been slaves. And on Mount Sinai, they get downloaded this most unique form of government, so contrary to human nature, where the power, there is no king,

[00:27:04] and it's based on every citizen being taught the law and being personally accountable to God to follow the law. And so you have an opportunity to steal. Nobody's around. And then you think, God is watching me. He wants me to be fair. He's going to hold me accountable in the future. Maybe I should hesitate stealing. And it creates a tiny thing in your head called a conscience.

[00:27:30] If everybody in the country believes this, you can maintain order with no king who rules through fear. That's right. And it worked in ancient Israel for 400 years until the priest went woke. He went rainbow church. I mean, here's the high priest, Eli. His own sons are sleeping with women in the tent where the Ark of the Covenant is. Another Levite with a silver graven image. Another Levite with a concubine who Sodomites abused and she dies. And by the time you're grossed out, you read the line, every man did that which was right in their own eyes. Why?

[00:27:58] Because the priests fell down on the job. They stopped teaching what was right in the Lord's eyes. It turns into chaos. They asked for a king. Why is this story important? Kings of Europe looked to the Bible for their authority, but they looked to the King Saul and after. And the pilgrims and Puritans looked to the before King Saul, part of the Bible. That's why they taught Hebrew, Yale, and Harvard. James Madison graduated from Princeton 1771, goes back for an entire year just to study Hebrew. He was fascinated with their political philosophy.

[00:28:27] And, of course, Madison's called the chief architect of our Constitution. Yeah. And the architect of the Constitution. Also, you talk about the idea of covenant and some other things. I want people to read that. But one of the things I wanted to do, Bill, is to encourage people to go to your website, AmericanMinute.com. Of course, we have a link there. And I pulled one from just the other day, Patrick Henry. Because if you think about this, of course, you have the Declaration list, 27 abuses and usurpations of King George.

[00:28:57] And then you have this famous message, this very dynamic speech by Patrick Henry, which he gives to the Second Virginia Convention. And, of course, everybody is familiar with the last line, but they need to read the ones before. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God. Because most people only know the last part.

[00:29:22] I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death. Now, you have a much more extensive quotation of the Declaration, why that was the case. But if you can, share that with us. Because I want people to go to your website. They can sign up, get some of your books. But you have, on a regular basis, The American Minute. And this one on Patrick Henry is a great story that I think we need to tell everybody today. Yeah.

[00:29:52] So the British took over India beginning in 1714 with a trading post in Bengal. And they had a famine in 1770 and 10 million died. And the British East India Company was going bankrupt. And so they needed a government bailout. And so Parliament says, okay, you can tax the colonies. And so they begin to pass all these taxes against the American colonies.

[00:30:19] The sugar tax, the tea tax, the stamp tax, the quartering act, the chloratory act, all these acts, and they're tightening the screws. And we don't even have a representative in Congress. And so instead of them saying, okay, we'll let you have a representative, they just become stricter. And so that was the background for what was going on. And you have Thomas Jefferson.

[00:30:50] He was a delegate in Virginia. And he proposes a day of fasting and prayer when the British blockade Boston's harbor, June 1, 1774. And George Washington writes in his diary, went to church, fasted all day. British Royal Governor Lord Dunmore views this day of fasting as a veiled protest against the king,

[00:31:16] so he cancels the Virginia legislature, their House of Burgesses. He tells them all to go home. And instead they go down to Raleigh Tavern. In the back room they decide to have a Continental Congress in September of 1774. And so, but Patrick Henry was in the Virginia legislature.

[00:31:40] And he was so popular that after Lord Dunmore got chased out, right, Patrick Henry led a militia to Williamsburg and they captured the gunpowder and then Lord Dunmore retaliates and then they give him the gunpowder back, but it keeps stirring up. And finally Lord Dunmore flees. And Patrick Henry becomes the first governor of Virginia. He's re-elected five times.

[00:32:10] Yes. He gets, you know, supplies and sends them to George Washington. Matter of fact, at Valley Forge, Washington didn't have supplies, and they find out that this guy named George Milfin is in charge of the supplies. He was putting them in a barn. And lo and behold, from what it looks like, he was part of the Conway Cabal where they were trying to get rid of Washington and they wanted him to fail on purpose. Patrick Henry finds out about it. And he's like writing to George, I've been sending stuff.

[00:32:40] Why aren't you getting it? And then Patrick Henry like puts his foot down and says, you know, where is this stuff? And basically they find it and George Milfin like resigns. But Patrick Henry was a key leader. And his speech, everybody that was there said that it stirred their hearts so much, the one George Mason. Let me take a break real quick. I've been doing a match and break. I want to talk about that speech, the reaction to it,

[00:33:10] and maybe even the fact that there was an individual that was hearing that speech who was another individual, John Peter Gabriel Muhlenberg. And I do want to get to that. So let's take a short break. But when we come back, we want to talk a little bit more about this famous speech by Patrick Henry, how in some respects that really charged not only those in the room, but actually had a very significant ripple effect across the colonies. And we're with William Federer.

[00:33:38] We'll continue our conversation with him right after this short break. You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. Back once again with William Federer.

[00:34:07] And Bill, let's see if we can set the scene because we're talking March 23rd, 1775. They're meeting in St. John's Church. Back then it was a parish church, but that's its name today in Richmond, Virginia, because, of course, you were mentioned just a few minutes ago, the royal governor, Lord Dornmore, was giving them difficulties. About 100 individuals in their delegates, and we're talking about a veritable who's who. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and others.

[00:34:32] And this speech is, again, one of the really famous speeches that precedes the American Revolution, but in some respects turns the tide. Can you tell us more? Right. So George Mason was a Virginia delegate, and he said, Patrick Henry is by far the most powerful speaker I have ever heard. Every word he says not only engages but commands the attention,

[00:34:59] and your passions are no longer your own when he addresses them. He is, in my opinion, the first man upon this continent, as well as in abilities as public virtues. Had he lived in Rome about the time of the Punic Wars, Mr. Henry's talents must have put him at the head of the glorious Commonwealth. And so they're all stirred up, and then that's when they vote for a militia.

[00:35:24] At that event was a 29-year-old Lutheran pastor, John Peter Buhlenberg, and he goes to George Washington, who was there, and he says, I want to help. And Washington said, I'm going to make you a colonel. Go get your men. And so he goes back to his church, and he preaches out of Ecclesiastes. There's a time for all things, a time to gather stones, a time to scatter stones, a time to preach, and a time to fight.

[00:35:53] And he takes off his black clerical robe, and underneath he has a uniform of a continental officer. And he has an altar call, and 300 men of his church and the surrounding churches kiss their wives goodbye right off to become the 8th Virginia Regiment. He's promoted to general, and after the war he's elected to Congress. And his statue is in the U.S. Capitol Statuary Hall with his black clerical robe halfway off, and then underneath is a uniform with his sword.

[00:36:20] So just an amazing story of this speech that just crystallized. You know, one message can change people's lives. And, of course, the ultimate message is the gospel. But I tell people the most important thing is to preach the gospel. The second most important thing is to preserve the freedom to do the most important thing. Let me just mention real quickly that, again, if you would like to read this, we have posted it, but also, of course, have a link to American Minute.

[00:36:49] And, again, there is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations. Later on, his life's so dear, peace so sweet, as to be purchased to the price of chains and slavery. Forbid it not, almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death. And, of course, not only John Peter Gabriel Muhlenberg, but his brother, who at the time was resistant to it, or later ended up being the first Speaker of the House.

[00:37:16] And just the number of ripples that came from that speech is significant. But what I thought we might do for just a minute is really talk about what is available on your website, because you and I have known each other for a long time. As a matter of fact, last time we talked about the fact that I think when we first met you, you had just published your book, America's God and Country, which, by the way, I think I've now read over a half a million copies exist, so congratulations. But now all these books, you're invited to speak everywhere.

[00:37:45] But I'm hoping that, if nothing else, as people support point of view, they can see that this has been a great opportunity to give more people a chance to know about people like Bill Federer, who have been just doing an excellent job recounting American history. And you have found, I think, as you've traveled to many of these cities, that there's perhaps more of a need to talk about America's heritage and founding than ever before. Haven't you? Well, definitely.

[00:38:12] There is a socialist tactic called deconstruction, where you separate people from their past, get them into a neutral where they don't remember where they came from, and then you brainwash them into the future you have planned for them. It's actually a sales technique. If I was a toothpaste salesman, the first thing I'd do is say negative things about the toothpaste you're currently brushing with. You're still brushing with that stuff? Haven't you readily eat the enamel off your teeth? You're like repulsed by it. Now I have you in a neutral. You're open-minded. What are all the toothpastes out there? Then I give you my pitch for this brand-new,

[00:38:41] tartar-controlled breast freshener toothpaste. So that's what they do. They go into the classrooms, and they intentionally tell the kids negative things about the founders. They took land from Indians. They sold people into slavery. Forget the fact they gave you a country where you are in charge of your own life, and together we are in charge of the country. Forget all that. They're bad. And so now the kids are in the neutral. They're open-minded. And it's like, oh, let's have a comparative religion class and start with Islam, and oh, the semester's over. We never got around to Christianity.

[00:39:07] And then they give their push for transgenderism and LGBTQ and socialism and Islamism. And Europe went through this. It went from a Judeo-Christian Europe with 1,000 years of Catholic cathedrals, Protestant reformation in Jewish neighborhoods, to a secular Europe with the French Revolution, free sex, anything goes. And now it's turning into an Islamic Europe with Muhammad being the number one name for newborns. So in a sense, the whole secular gay agenda is a temporary transition phase

[00:39:37] from the Christian past to the Islamic future. But that's why it's important for us to remember our Christian past. It gave birth to this concept called the individual. Every other form of government in the world, your worth is dependent on what group you belong to. Are you a Muslim male? Are you a Brahmin in the highest caste? Are you a CCP member? In America, you're worth something simply because you're made in the image of God and he is not a respecter of persons. It's birthed to this idea that you have worth as an individual.

[00:40:07] Again, I would encourage people to go to AmericanMinute.com. You mentioned Islam in passing. I've heard you speak on Islam. I've written two books on it. But even as I've heard you speak, sometimes you've filled in some gaps and some things. And I just, again, commend people. So many different books that you have. You have the miraculous milestones, courageous Christianity. Of course, you talk about socialism. You talk about Islam and much, much more. And I might just mention, since we just a minute ago were talking about the American Minute,

[00:40:36] the one today is talking about these colonial pastors who influenced American government. You mentioned John Wise, Thomas Hooker, John Witherspoon, who, of course, we talked about just the other day, and many others. But just before we went out of time, we were in the midst of raising funds for the end of our fiscal year, June 30th. And you've been with us for, I guess we could say now, honestly, decades. And you certainly see what we are doing here at Point of View.

[00:41:04] What would you encourage our listeners to do in terms of supporting Point of View? Yeah, please give. There's no other ministry. I remember Point of View 30 years ago has always been on the forefront of cutting edge, talking about what's really happening behind the scenes, really mobilizing people. And I just can't say enough good things about Point of View and the great work that it's been doing, it's continued to be doing with you, Kirby.

[00:41:32] And so I'm going to ask the listeners, a little bit out of your pocket, God will multiply. So please give. This is a ministry that is awakening people, that is causing this awareness of our Christian godly heritage to spread so that we can preserve it for the next generation. You know, I look at the, in the Constitution it has a line

[00:42:00] that securing the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity. It's like, that's the future generation. We have to preserve this. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance. And so please give. Please be generous in giving to Point of View, a radio talk show. One last time, let me just mention again that we have the link to American Minute. We also have a link to the prayers and presidents,

[00:42:27] which we've talked about with Bill Federer on our National Day of Prayer. And, Bill, you've been a good friend, and we've known each other literally for decades, and it is just a delight to see how God has blessed you and how much of success that you have and so many venues where you're speaking. So thank you for joining us today here on Point of View. Well, thank you, Kirby. And sometimes people say, well, what's history going to say about you? And it's like, you know what? If we don't save the country, there won't be any history. They'll rewrite it. I mean, here is George Washington, all these great leaders.

[00:42:57] They just rewrite them and turn them into bad guys. We have to get involved. We have to get involved. I want to thank both Megans for producing the program and engineering the program. Look forward to seeing you tomorrow right here on Point of View. America's founders called this nation an experiment. 250 years later, the question for us is, did the experiment work?

[00:43:26] Well, let's look at the history. Though not perfect, America has continued moving toward the promise of the Declaration that all men are created equal. Our nation has enjoyed amazing success and providential survival. So has the experiment succeeded? Well, yes. But will it succeed going forward? That depends on you.

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