Point of View June 24, 2025 – Hour 2 : Tuesday’s Headlines

[00:00:04] Across America, Live, this is Point of View, and now, Kirby Anderson. Well, once again, we have an opportunity to talk about a number of things that are taking place across the oceans, and we will come back to some other things happening here domestically.

[00:00:29] Even when we talk about Iran, as I mentioned just a minute ago, ICE yesterday was able to arrest 11 Iranian nationals here in the United States. They were here not only illegally, but they had criminal records. Now, whether they were part of what is oftentimes called a sleeper cell, although I've heard a lot of people say, I hate that term, it's, you know, either you're a terrorist or you're not, and forget the idea of a sleeper cell. Nevertheless, they are rounding some of them up, and we wanted to take the worst first.

[00:00:58] And these individuals from a dangerous country, Iran, who have criminal record, that's reason enough to remove them from any possibility of engaging in either criminal or terroristic activities. So, if you haven't heard that, just thought I'd announce that as we get into this issue. My first article comes from the editors of the Wall Street Journal. Aren't always friends of Donald Trump. Sometimes we'll give him credit. Oftentimes we'll give him a great deal of criticism.

[00:01:27] But they reminded us of how silly some of this is right now because we heard that there was a ceasefire. And then you had, of course, the fact that there's now evidence that it was broken. But let's go back to yesterday when I mentioned that there had been some missiles that had been fired at Qatar or Qatar, depending on which translation you want to use. And those, interestingly enough, were actually given some advance notice.

[00:01:57] And that is that there was a reason to actually announce ahead of time that it was coming. And so, as a result, Iran told its people, since they don't sometimes have access to outside news information, other than maybe through the Internet, that they fired 14 ballistic missiles at U.S. troops and destroyed the American air base. Nothing of the sort was actually done at all,

[00:02:23] which was in supposedly retaliation in the U.S. strikes on three nuclear sites. But I love the editor saying, here on planet Earth, the base was already substantially evacuated. The missiles were intercepted with no casualties reported. All sides said Iran gave advance notice that the attacks were coming. And this is a good example of what they call Persian kabuki theater. And it would be laughable if real missiles weren't aimed at Americans. And they pointed out it's no small matter, by the way, that they fired on Qatar,

[00:02:53] because that is one of the countries probably friendliest to Iran in that region, or that they fired these missiles at the U.S. Central Command regional headquarters. But, nevertheless, it was mocked by President Trump as a very weak response. And Iran had gotten it out of their system. So, nevertheless, that was what we talked about briefly yesterday. It was much ado about nothing, as we've said before.

[00:03:21] Now, what the editors began to do, and we're going to see a little bit more of this with some of the other articles I bring to you today, is that all the predictions they say that a strike on Iran would almost certainly result in thousands of American deaths, they put in parentheses Tucker Carlson, or set off World War III, and, boy, I can find a lot of people that were saying that, strongly signaled it doesn't want the fight.

[00:03:45] And I think you might be able to see that even though there was, during the so-called ceasefire, some missiles fired from Iran, those could have been fired in error or by hardliners who were not willing to give in. But, generally, there seems to be an uneasy and difficult to maybe maintain for a long period of time a ceasefire.

[00:04:10] We want more than a ceasefire, and even a ceasefire is, again, trust but verify, and assume that you're going to have the Iranians lie. But, nevertheless, that was the case. But, one of the things I thought I might report, which is in this article as well, is that Israel continue their bombing, but they were actually bombing very strategic areas. One that they bombed was the Ivan Prison.

[00:04:40] That is a prison. That is a prison where, oftentimes, dissidents, these would be people that the Iranian mullahs see as dangerous or somehow controversial, that's where many of those Iranian dissidents are held or tortured. And Israel went in and blew the gate off of the prison. More symbolic, but who knows?

[00:05:07] It might have allowed for some of those individuals to escape. Israel also struck the Iranian Revolutionary Guard units because they are focused on internal security, and they also hit the headquarters of the Bajiu Mara military, which, oftentimes, are individuals used to put down some of the protests. Arab Spring was a good example and some of the others.

[00:05:37] And these, in a sense, were deliberate attacks by Israel on the regime's institutions of repression. So, I thought it might be helpful to mention that. Now, there has been quite a debate as to whether or not there's going to be regime change, and I think President Trump has made it very clear that's not the case. But on his truth social, he did, with tongue-in-cheek, say,

[00:06:05] I know it's not politically correct to use the term regime change, but if the current Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again, M-I-G-A, so now we've got MEGA and MEHA and now we've got MIGA, why wouldn't there be a regime change? And at that point, the editor said, maybe Tulsi Gabbard fainted. But, nevertheless, they said, we really don't read President Trump as proposed in another Iraq war.

[00:06:34] He says he wants peace and harmony. And, sure enough, he announced later, as we saw after the program ended yesterday, that there was a call for a complete and total ceasefire within 24 hours and an end to what he has referred to as the 12-day war. I don't know that that will stick because I don't think the war quite is over, but I do believe that we are safer than we've ever been before.

[00:07:02] They go on to say that Iran appears to have lost its nuclear enrichment and weaponization facilities, its leading military commanders and nuclear scientists, and much of its missile production and launch capacity. Israel may have liked more time to hit more targets, but it all has to worry about protecting its cities. And Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has made it clear that Israel won't return to a status quo in which Iran or its proxies, the militants, endanger its existence.

[00:07:30] And so the question is, what next? Authoritarians appear to be sturdy at the moment. Militarily, they're humiliated. My Atola Khamenei would maybe fall prey to a popular uprising, so who knows whether something like that might take place organically there in Iran. But as for Donald Trump, a ceasefire and a 12-day war is his way of assuring

[00:07:57] some of the isolationists in the MAGA movement that this won't be another Iraq and Afghanistan. Of course, each day we'll learn a little bit more, but when we come back I'll get to another article by Jeffrey Blehar, who oftentimes is quite critical of the president, but in this case I have to say that this, as he points out, is exactly why elections matter. And so we'll get into that in just a minute. If you find yourself saying, I'd like to see some of these facts and figures,

[00:08:26] I'd like to read some of these articles, they are available on our website at pointofview.net. The ones yesterday from National Review and from the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal, these from a number of different similar sources, are available on our website at pointofview.net. We'll be right back.

[00:08:58] This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson. Years ago a doctor wrote an article entitled, What's Keeping David McCullough From Sleeping? This noted historian and award-winning author had trouble sleeping because he was worrying about what was happening in the country. He was concerned that our leaders have forgotten about history, they're unaware of the past, and uninterested in how they would be remembered in the future. Timothy Gegline, who was a special assistant to President Bush, opened his article with a story to remind us

[00:09:27] how ignorant students and adults are about history. One study from years ago by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute surveyed more than 2,500 Americans. They found that only half of those adults could name the three branches of government, and only 36% of college graduates could do so. 18% of students tested could not name a single right or freedom guaranteed under the First Amendment. Turns out that the highest performing school on this civics test was Harvard University.

[00:09:55] But even this prestigious school did not do that well. Harvard scored 69%. You know, most teachers would consider that to be a D+. In other words, it would be a failing grade. A more recent study by the American Council of Trustees and Alumni found that half of all college graduates did not know how long the terms of their representatives and senators were, and 43% did not know the First Amendment gave them freedom of speech.

[00:10:23] A full third could not identify any rights guaranteed by the First Amendment. So I would suggest that you remember that all those students surveyed are now of voting age, and some may be running for public office. Yes, that can keep you from sleeping at night. I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my Point of View. Go deeper on topics like you just heard by visiting pointofview.net.

[00:10:53] That's pointofview.net. You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. Back once again, our second article is entitled, Trump's Iran Strike Shows Precisely Why Elections Matter. And I thought for just a minute we might put some of this in context. I might also borrow a little bit from a very good piece by Jim Denison, reminding us where we were two weeks ago and then reminding us where we were two years ago.

[00:11:21] Sometimes you fail to, in a sense, understand some of the remarkable changes that are taking place right before our very eyes. And Jeffrey Blaher, who writes this, actually puts together an edition. This is what he calls his 42nd edition of the Carnival of Fools. Most of the time he's criticizing Donald Trump, President Trump, and his administration for foolish things they're saying and doing. And usually it has to do with domestic issues. Although, to be fair, he at the very end

[00:11:50] does take a shot at Donald Trump for still not dealing with the very important issue of TikTok. We'll get to that in just a minute. But for his maybe constant attempt at finding some of the foolish things that are said or done by people in the administration, both in the Republican administration, but also in Congress, Democrats, he, in this case, has a much different tone. Because, first of all, he starts out by saying, look, I had to laugh and take a deep breath

[00:12:19] with on last Thursday, the White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt announced that Donald Trump would decide within two weeks whether to offer American military assistance to Israel in knocking out Iran's most difficult to reach nuclear facilities. He said, I had a nervous laugh, mind you. I was quietly gulping air because that, at the moment, I was suspecting the planes were already flying. And then he reminds us that everybody from the New York Times

[00:12:46] to a lot of pretty significant individuals that we've quoted over the years who were all joining in in their political commentary saying, well, this may be a good illustration that Donald Trump is on the verge of backing down or maybe he has been persuaded by some of the isolationists or the restrainers in his administration to tap the brakes on Benjamin Netanyahu. Well, you didn't fool Jeffrey Blahar. He knew what was coming.

[00:13:15] Whenever he gave you the head fake of two weeks, he knew it would probably be about two days and that's exactly what it was. So anyway, he goes on. He never made any sense to me. The inexorable logic of the military situation dictated a strike. And sooner rather than later, after a week's worth of pounding from the Israeli Defense Forces, the IDF, the Iranian regime was disoriented and defenseless, helplessly exposed to Israeli and American air superiority.

[00:13:44] And that is still the case, I might add as well. So he said, so we finished the job. It was the right thing to do. In fact, now this is pretty amazing. He says this, I will go further than that. If Donald Trump's finest movement as a politician is forever destined to be that dark day when he arose bleeding from an assassin's bullet to throw a reassuringly defiant fist to the terrified crowd, then there's good reason to think that Saturday will ultimately rank second.

[00:14:14] So he sees that as pretty significant. And he again recognizes what is unfolding right before our very eyes. He gives you the justification. He said, look, I operate by rather simple logic myself. The Iranian regime, whose unofficial motto is death to America, and which openly calls for the destruction of Israel, our sole true ally in the region, seeks a nuclear weapon to achieve this goal. So again, if the price we pay

[00:14:43] is merely a few bombs from a B-2, then the question is pretty easily answered. Iran's nuclear program has either been destroyed permanently or set back decades. The mullahs are very upset, as one imagines murderous religious fanatics tend to be, and it also seemingly shows that they are powerless to do much more than cause a temporary economic reaction by maybe, and again, I'm going to put maybe, he doesn't put that, but I put maybe,

[00:15:13] laying mines across the Strait of Hormuz. Because right now, the Strait of Hormuz, even if you were to blockade that, which I don't think they're going to do, but even if they did, it turns out that it would hurt Iran and probably China and a few other countries more than it would hurt the United States. But I'll digress, and if that comes up, I'll explain why, but that's the case. So he goes on to say, this unalloyed victory

[00:15:41] for the forces of sanity and civilization, he says, to those who point to the inevitability of an unforeseen blowback, I will remind you that Iran and its proxies have been engaging in low-level conflict with America for well over a decade now. I think in the speech by President Trump, he said 30 years, and one of the commentaries I read yesterday said 40 years. Just go back to think about some of the things

[00:16:10] that have taken place there, as we have well documented. He says then, here's the key point to his title, none of this would have happened if Kamala Harris were president. I think that's pretty clear. Instead, President Harris would be sitting atop a Democratic coalition, which would certainly not approve of this in any significant way. And so he says, would this be something that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, David Hogg,

[00:16:40] a variety of other names he mentions there, would they even go along with this? And he says, to ask the question out loud is to answer it. No. For that reason alone, it is no exaggeration to say that the shape of the world perceptibly turned for the better on the outcome of last November's election. You can draw a straight line, he says, between Donald Trump's winning the 2024 race and Iran's nuclear weapons program now being best described

[00:17:10] as a series of different sized craters. Pretty strong line there. He says, as a writer primarily concerned with domestic matters, the sorts of actors who keep the carnival of fools freshly stocked on a weekly basis, I'm disinclined to break character for a sober foreign policy decision. He then recommends some people, including Noah Rothman, who we quote quite often. But he says, I'm proud to be an American today and happy to give credit to Donald Trump

[00:17:39] for genuinely living up to his self-billing as the indispensable man in this case. Well, just so that he didn't look like he was such a fawning toady, he did go on to say, there is one issue that we've got to take concerns with, and that is Donald Trump has once again announced with little public fanfare or media commentary, that he once again was not executing the terms of the TikTok bill,

[00:18:09] which was passed into law and signed by President Biden. Again, remember that this was something that was signed in the previous administration, and it was one that was supported by Republicans and Democrats, and Donald Trump and said decided to invent a 90-day extension and then return the issue in September, but here we keep postponing what is actually something that was passed by Congress

[00:18:38] and should be implemented. So, he does take at least one shot at the end. And again, if you want to try to put some of this in perspective, of course we had a ceasefire, and then you had a situation in which Iran fired some more missiles, so Israel went back and Donald Trump used a naughty word, which he rarely does in front of the cameras today because he was so frustrated with what's going on in the Middle East. So we'll see whether we have an on-again or off-again

[00:19:05] particular ceasefire. But our good friend Jim Dennison reminded us of just even two weeks ago that before Israel launched its surprise attack on June 13th, targeting some of these key Iranian military and nuclear facilities, many doubted that the Jewish state would even try such a venture, and here we are now, and to recognize that both the U.S. and Israel

[00:19:33] risks possible repercussions, you know, the Strait of Hormuz we mentioned a minute ago, launching missiles, asymmetric attacks, sleeper cells, and cyber attacks. But, that's two weeks ago. If we want to go back two years ago, in the run-up to October 7th, 2023, the Hamas leader, Yahashinwar, predicted the destruction of Israel at the hands of Hamas, that this would be the fulfillment of Quran,

[00:20:03] chapter 17, in which the enemies under Islam will be utterly destroyed and fall into their hands. That didn't work out. And, if you want to also look at Hezbollah, you have Hassan Nasr, Israel, who basically said, Israel may have nuclear weapons, but it is actually a country that is weaker than a spider's web. And, Israel may appear strong from the outside, but it will be easily destroyed

[00:20:32] and defeated. Well, it just didn't quite turn out that way, did it? And so, if nothing else, we are seeing a remarkable change in the Middle East. And, though, there will be their naysayers, I think we see some remarkable changes that we should applaud. And so, as we come to our break, let me mention again that if you appreciate some of the kinds of things we talk about here on Point of View, including posting some of these articles from Wall Street Journal, National Review,

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[00:23:01] The opinions expressed on Point of View do not necessarily reflect the views of the management or staff of this station. And now, here again, is Kirby Anderson. Back once again, let's see if we can talk about some things domestically. We've spent enough time certainly talking about what's happening overseas. We'll continue to do that. But this last half hour I wanted to do two things. First of all, to look at what is happening right now to the left and even the Democratic Party. We've got one article by Victor Davis Hanson,

[00:23:30] another one by Byron York, which remind us that again, some of these successes are coming in the direction of Donald Trump or maybe some future successes in terms of a Republican House and Senate, although we still will continue to watch more of that, the status of the big beautiful bill as they call it. That will be something we'll look on in this segment. And then, I just thought before the end of the program today, I would certainly as maybe a celebration,

[00:23:59] remind us of the fact that today is, if you will, the third anniversary of the decision that came down on the issue of abortion, the Dobbs decision. June 24th, 2022, and now, of course, is June 24th, 2025. And I may make some brief comments about that in the last segment, and then we'll come back to it maybe Thursday in our second segment because Liberty McCarter will be with us and I want to get her thoughts about the issue of pro-life

[00:24:29] and a number of other issues as well. So let's get into it. Victor Davis Hanson just asked the question, can the left ever stop its craziness? He uses a couple of Democratic leaders to use the illustration. Number one, he talks about Alex Padilla, and of course, we've talked about that before. A senator from the state of California, crashed the press conference with Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noem, barged forward to the podium shouting about deportation. Got his media moment because the Secret Service

[00:24:59] agents, who apparently had no idea who he was, forcibly removed him. Number two, he mentions Senator Cory Booker from New Jersey who actually attempted a, if you will, he calls it a pseudo-filibuster speaking nonstop for 25 hours straight. Not to delay legislation, but just to fixate on President Donald Trump. And then number three, a Democratic state representative, Dave Julie Van Hoffen, I think is how you pronounce the name,

[00:25:29] is posted on social media, something I was unaware of, a bloody guillotine, which then bore the title, In these difficult times, some cuts may be necessary, and juxtapose that with an image of a hanging, beheaded Donald Trump, who, by the way, was the target of two failed assassination attempts. Didn't know about that one. Think that maybe some people in the press should really criticize

[00:25:58] that more so. But you also then begin to say, whose side are you on? And he gives us five very good illustrations. You know, are we on the side of illegal aliens who spit on the American flag, who burn the American flag while waving Mexican flags? Or number two, do we really want to take on Kilmer Obregado Garcia, who we now know was not only

[00:26:28] an illegal alien, but also was an accused domestic abuser, a gang leader, probably also a human trafficker. They also, number three, he talks about Mahmoud Kahili, who is the pro-Hamas student who helped organize and even defend some of the anti-Semitic demonstrations in Colombia. Then just take it out of the protest, just even some of the left have actually lionized the individual Luigi Mangione,

[00:26:58] who was the individual that killed the CEO of the United Healthcare CEO. And then others talk about this illegal alien, Mohamed Sabri Solomon. And so he just goes through all sorts of examples of, are these the people you really want to put front and center to illustrate what you are believing in, what you're backing, and all the rest? And then ask, I think, a very important question. If you at least

[00:27:27] can find some areas of agreement, couldn't there be some places where Democratic leaders would at least cooperate with Donald Trump, with other Republicans? They say, for example, couldn't they at least partner with Donald Trump to allow green cards to illegal aliens who have no criminal records, who have not been on public assistance, who are now employed and are residing in the United States and have been there for at least five years? Another example, he says, couldn't Democrats

[00:27:56] meet with the president to express bipartisan support for Israel and for this war with Iran? And the answer seems to be, well, not yet anyway. And so finally, he just asked the, I think, fundamental question, why is this happening? And that, of course, gets us into the piece we'll talk about with Byron York because he says, you know, part of it is Democratic leaders are exasperated because they don't really control any of the levels

[00:28:25] of political power. Congress, the White House, the Supreme Court, they're frustrated because they need to maybe appease some of the more radical parts of their party and also they may be frustrated because it seems like everything they've tried against Donald Trump this time, you know, last time it was Russia, Russia, Russia, but this time smear him with a label of being a fascist or a dictator and he actually in the latest YouGov survey

[00:28:55] showed him gaining public support on securing the border and deportation. Label him as a racist and then you find the latest Rasmussen tracking polls, Trump garnering 54% approval from African Americans, 53% from Hispanic Americans and as he ends his article says, the counter-revolution under Donald Trump seems to continue, the people cheer and the Democrats seem to be what? He's not barking at the moon.

[00:29:24] Which brings me to the other piece by Byron York because he also is trying to remind us where we were not so long ago. He starts his piece by saying that eight years ago in the first year of Donald Trump's first term as president, you already had the Russian special counsel, the special counsel on Russia, that would be Robert Mueller, who had already been appointed and was investigating Trump and already done so by this time for a month. And he said on the other side you had the

[00:29:54] Democratic strategy of attack, attack, attack, and you had the major news organizations, cable news producers and others that would speculate about a Trump-Russia connection every hour of every day. and he says by the third paragraph, the reason I bring this up is to contrast the situation with what we have today. Democrats seem distracted and back on their feet. The party's engaged in some bitter infighting. We'll talk about that in just a minute.

[00:30:23] And they haven't really come up with a coherent and unified strategy at this point. And he says part of that goes back to Democrats being in a state of shock, even going back to last summer when an internal coup resulted in President Biden's departure from the re-election campaign. But they really don't have a big unifying cause right now. And we've seen if nothing else the actions which gets back to the piece

[00:30:53] interestingly enough which overlaps very much with Victor Davis Hanson of a number of Democrats especially leaders who have decided to use what he calls a 1960s style civil disobedience particular strategy in which they want to get themselves detained arrested handcuffed and in one way or another bring attention to what is taking place. Byron York says it's kind of funny but not really it's an indication

[00:31:22] of the Democratic Party's impotence on part of Trump's presidency and then points out some of the problems that Democrats are facing right now. And I did not know this until I read this article. First, the Democratic National Committee has fallen behind substantially in the money race. If you look at what has been raised in terms of the DNC about 18 million cash on hand

[00:31:52] what about the RNC the Republican National Committee that's almost 68 million so there is a striking difference here in that regard. somebody close to the Democratic National Committee told the New York Post we're six months in and we are drowning. We have no clear path or plan. The midterms are going to come before we know it and then we're really going to and he uses some words we don't use on the air. And then this is where

[00:32:21] Byron York reminds us of some of the infighting between the DNC chairman Ken Martin and at the time the vice president of the DNC David Hogue and that has been I think another one of those issues. So they don't have the money but they also don't have the issues because he also says that Democrats still are on the wrong side of a lot of issues like immigration wokeism national security and the rest and if it's

[00:32:56] that right now it looks real possible that in the Democratic primary for the New York mayor's race you will have a Democratic socialist that might indeed win Zohran Mondani who is actually affiliated with the Democratic Socialist of America and this is certainly not going to be helpful if you will for the national brand of the Democratic Party

[00:33:26] maybe in the future maybe we'll do this on Friday talk about all the things that he has proposed and I would imagine some of those are so extreme that even Alexandria Cosa Cortez is saying can we tap the brakes on some of this but we'll see where that goes let's take a break come back and talk about abortion right after this you're listening to point

[00:33:56] of view your listener supported source for truth back for a few more minutes let's if we can remind ourselves that three years ago today is when the Supreme Court ruled in the case of Dobbs v. Women's Health Organization and that was a case which overturned Roe v. Wade and the editors of National Review wanted to make sure that we considered that I'll send maybe we'll spend some time talking about that again on Thursday

[00:34:26] when Liberty McCarter is in studio but nevertheless the editors put it this way pro-lifers have been so understandably preoccupied with the new challenges and difficulties of the post-Roe America that they have insufficiently celebrated the fact that we're now living in America that this America that we live in today does not start out with the assumption that abortion is routine for nearly 50 years they said

[00:34:55] the Supreme Court has pretended that the Constitution protects abortion from democratic regulation notwithstanding the lack of support for the proposition in the text the logic and even the structure or the original understanding the justices who renounce that lie in Dobbs versus Jackson Women's Health Center expose themselves as they remind us to scurulous criticisms and even threats to

[00:35:25] their safety they merit praise for striking a blow for constitutional fidelity and for human rights rightly considered I might also add as we did just a minute ago this is another great illustration of elections have consequences the justices that made that possible for that decision to come down were individuals who were either appointed by one of them George Herbert Walker Bush another one

[00:35:55] George W. Bush or then Donald Trump and that I think is a reminder of how elections do have consequences they go on to then point out a few issues the great danger at that moment was of a political backlash and they even point out abetted by furious media and other kinds of politicians who were arguing that this will now lead to a national abortion law

[00:36:24] and reestablish a role in that regard they go on to remind us that didn't happen in the first elections after Dobbs Republicans regained control of the house every pro-life incumbent won in the senate and governor's races while the latter group included people who signed on to a law major protections for the unborn in the red and even some purple states politicians can enact such protections

[00:36:54] and thrive and I might point out that right after the decision came down we did have some special elections and on many of those special elections where the only issue on the ballot was abortion and where there was an incredible amount of money brought in it looked like there would be a real backlash and this would ultimately not prevail but as we now have the hindsight of three years

[00:37:23] we can see that that did not take place now they did point out that some of the political setbacks that pro-lifers did experience tragic though they were are also in need to be put in context of the effective legalization of abortion at any state of pregnancy so the bottom line is in some of these states they've actually gone even beyond Roe vs. Wade and the point that the editors are making is there's nowhere to

[00:37:53] go but up the states that have legislated in favor of abortion since Dobbs largely stuck with the status quo or defeated entirely disorganized opposition nearly two dozen other states have restricted abortion to some degree and even in the states that afford no legal rights to the unborn it remains possible to persuade voters to change their minds with no federal mandate for abortion shutting down the debate before it begins so again some great points that they were making here

[00:38:23] a couple of other recommendations first of all they say in every state pro-lifers should be pushing for the most life-protecting regime of law that can be politically sustained and that must include dispelling the dangerous and legal misinformation that supporters of abortion have been promoting no pro-life laws anywhere in this country require doctors to wait for pregnant women undergoing a medical crisis

[00:38:52] and again I think there has been a real need for good messaging in that regard they go on to say that both states and the federal government as appropriate should also join churches and private charities in supporting mothers children and their families in meeting economic needs this can and should take form in a number of different ways from making catastrophic health insurance available on the market to giving parents tax relief

[00:39:22] and just a number of other things they mention as well they finally mentioned that of course with Roe versus Wade gone the federal government continues to undermine states ability to stop the violence of abortion it entirely refuses to enforce the ban already in law by shipping abortion pills interstate and even to states where using them for abortions is illegal and so that I think is another battleground and we'll talk about that more maybe on Thursday with Liberty who has written two

[00:39:52] of our booklets on the issue of the abortion pill finally let me just mention that they also say pressing forward with this agenda will require some adjustments in the relationship between pro-life activists and politicians for politicians many of them would prefer to be done with this issue and are complaining that sometimes activists make unrealistic demands but nevertheless this is a problem that can be solved in a noble cause that unites us

[00:40:23] and requires no less so nevertheless editors the Wall Street journal talking about three years after the Dobbs decision and we find ourselves there today as we wind down let's if we can encourage you to pray as you go to the website pointofview.net you're going to find many of these articles we've mentioned including of course information about the book by Kevin Lehman and Kristen Lehman O'Reilly be a great

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[00:41:22] taking place and we see in Ephesians 6 verse 12 that we are and should be fighting a spiritual battle because the spiritual forces of evil are in the heavenly places we're also to stand firm and we are to pray at all times in the spirit you know Michael Yosef spent on the program and he said you know in these uncertain days Christians around the world must unite in prayer we easily forget that there are many Christian believers in Iran right now

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