Point of View June 11, 2026 – Hour 2 : Resurrection and the Fear of Death, The Great American Conflict

[00:00:04] Across America, Live, this is Point of View, Kirby Anderson. Second hour today, we're going to spend some time talking with a couple of different guests. Christopher Reese is of course a friend that we've had on the program many times before, founder and editor-in-chief of the Worldview Bulletin. We're going to talk about his article, Resurrection and the Fear of Death.

[00:00:33] And then at the bottom of the hour, we're going to go to Dr. Hermos Shariat. He, of course, is an individual that we've also interviewed on this program before, talking about the ministry that he has as an individual with the Ron Alive Ministry. So we'll talk about it, Ron, for a few minutes, but a lot of it has to do with this new documentary, which you can watch on YouTube, The Great American Conflict. So a lot to cover this hour.

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[00:01:24] Christopher Reese is, again, a blogger and an expert in Christian worldview issues, author of a number of things, including 100 Old Testament quotes by Jesus, how Jesus used the Hebrew Scriptures, founder and editor of the Worldview Bulletin, and an individual that we call on from time to time. So, Christopher, welcome back to Point of View. Thanks so much, Kirby. Appreciate you having me on again. And always great to be here to talk with you about these important topics.

[00:01:54] Let's, if we can, talk about the Worldview Bulletin for this minute. I've been promoting it many times. But let's talk about the fact that just over the last couple of months, I've had a chance to interview three different authors on the issue of apologetics. And one of those authors is Dr. Jeremiah Johnston. And I saw that if you go to the Worldview Bulletin, that is one of the features that you have right now.

[00:02:21] And so it's a great way, is it not, to keep up with some things. I think we're kind of in this golden age of worldview and apologetics, maybe the golden age of archaeology. Three different books that have come out over the last couple of months. The most recent one, an interview I did with Dr. Paul Weaver. Maybe you could get him on there as well. But Jeremiah Johnston. And it does seem to me that if you want to keep up to date with what's happening in the area of worldview,

[00:02:49] what's happening in the area of apologetics, getting a subscription to your bulletin is a good way to do so, don't you think? Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, we publish at least once a week. And we try to cover a wide range of topics related to apologetics and the Christian worldview and try to keep it encouraging and interesting and informative.

[00:03:16] And so, yeah, I would encourage anyone who's interested in those topics to, you know, look for Worldview Bulletin, and Google it, and you can sign up and I would love to have you join us. Again, if you click on your picture there, we have a link to the website, a link to Facebook, and a link to X. So the way we have it now, that will just immediately take you there to substack.com slash and then Worldview Bulletin. So there you can see some of that.

[00:03:45] And, of course, matter of fact, the first thing that pops up is the Jesus Discovery book and what is hidden in the ancient burial box. So you can subscribe right there. You can look it through a little bit, get a little bit of a feel. And so we've got that link on the website, pointofview.net. Okay, resurrection. Well, this would be an obvious one for Easter, but what I think is so interesting, Christopher,

[00:04:07] is you start by talking about the importance of the resurrection, and then you jump to some of these atheists or naturalists who certainly say there is no purpose to the universe, there is no meaning to life. And to ask the question, why am I here, is really fallacious. So either the resurrection is true and there's meaning to life, or the resurrection is false and the atheists and the so-called new atheists are right.

[00:04:37] And in some respects, that's kind of why you wrote this piece, isn't it? Yeah, that's true. Kind of the main idea behind it was, like you said, contrasting the two viewpoints. You know, with Christianity, we have hope because Christ rose from the dead and conquered death and he's reconciled us to God. And that's a very hopeful view.

[00:05:02] It means that we'll have eternal life in a beautiful place and, you know, be experiencing bliss there, you know, with God in eternity. And that contrasts very much with the naturalistic perspective in which basically life ends at the grave and there's nothing beyond it.

[00:05:26] And so, in many ways, life is devoid of meaning and value and purpose because there is no afterlife. And essentially we're just kind of molecules in motion, kind of accidents here. And so that's a very bleak perspective. You know, one of the things you say early on is, unlike most other religions whose teachings consist of moral and physical principles,

[00:05:55] Christianity depends crucially on the historical death and resurrection of the founder. I was listening to an atheist talk the other day and he was saying, you know, I've read some of these religions and, you know, he was sort of implying that they're all basically the same. They don't really answer the real questions. And I thought, nope, you can't play that game because you're treating religion sort of like flavors of ice cream.

[00:06:18] Well, you like chocolate and I like butter pecan and you like a cherry Garcia and you like something, you know, everybody's got their favorite. And no, because historicity is very key. If indeed the Bible is false, then and it's historically false. And if the resurrection is false, then Christianity, even according to the Apostle Paul in first Corinthians 15,

[00:06:44] is a wasted endeavor because your faith is in vain. And so in some respects, people want to treat Christianity like any other religion. Yes, it has a religious element. But I think the truth claims of Christianity go all the way back to the resurrection. And you can't really treat it like flavors of ice cream or my favorite color because either it's true or it's not true.

[00:07:12] And if it's not true, it's not worth your time. But if it is true, it by definition invalidates all the other religious faiths, don't you think? That's true. Yeah, I quote one scholar in the piece who made the point that with a lot of Eastern religions, there, you know, it's not even necessary that you can trace it back to a particular founder

[00:07:38] because it's mainly sort of principles for how to live, you know, moral living, that type of thing. And you can have those philosophies, you know, even without a particular person who founded it. But with Christianity, it's definitely different. You know, Jesus primarily proclaimed himself rather than any type of sort of belief system or philosophy.

[00:08:08] He said, I am the way and the truth and the life. And constantly told people, you know, they needed to believe in him personally. And so, yeah, Jesus is definitely unique in that sense. And like you said, without the resurrection, Paul says that our faith would be in vain apart from that. Yeah. Again, it rises or falls on who Jesus is. When we come back, I want to do a little bit of apologetics because when was 1 Corinthians 15 written?

[00:08:37] And then we'll contrast that with all these atheistic, naturalistic philosophers. We'll continue our conversation with Christopher Reese on resurrection and the fear of death right after this. This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson.

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[00:10:58] You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. Back for a few more minutes with Christopher Reese as we talk about resurrection and the fear of death. And, Christopher, for just a minute, let's go to 1 Corinthians 15, because that's really where the Apostle Paul makes the case for Christianity. But you point out something that we've talked about before with people like Lee Strobel,

[00:11:24] and that is if you read the first few verses of 1 Corinthians 15, essentially verses 3 through 7, what Paul is doing is quoting a creed, a pre-existing creed. And I think sometimes people miss all this because we'll have people say, well, when was the Bible written? When was the New Testament written?

[00:11:47] Well, it was a pre-existing creed that existed in the early church as a tradition, as you point out from one individual, say, and maybe within months of the death of Jesus.

[00:12:15] So when you talk about the gap between when Jesus died and even some of the first Gospels, or the first, if you will, epistles, you have to go back even earlier to the time just right after Christ died, because what you are reading in 1 Corinthians 15 verses 3 through 7 is a creed that existed almost immediately after the death and resurrection of Jesus.

[00:12:44] That's true. And one interesting thing, you know, as you mentioned, Paul is writing 1 Corinthians about 20 years after Jesus died, and sometimes skeptics will say, oh, the Gospels were written decades after the events, and, you know, how can we trust that? But that really betrays kind of an ignorance of ancient history. I just give an example.

[00:13:13] The best-known biography of Alexander the Great by Arian was written 400 years after Alexander died. One of the important biographies of Aristotle was written 500 years after he died. And so for ancient history, centuries is often the norm for these sources that, you know, historians put a great degree of trust in.

[00:13:42] And so decades is nothing, you know, compared to that. Right. And it's even less than decades when you start getting into something like the creed. And I think it's just an illustration that, I've said this before, you can go into a classroom on history, and professors will quote from Roman history, Tacitus Suetonius, Caesar's Gallic Wars, written by the old boaster himself,

[00:14:06] and say that these are historically accurate when the gap between the copy we have and the original is huge. And then, of course, you come to the New Testament, and they'll make fun of New Testament scholarship or whether or not we even know that Jesus existed. And they just can't be consistent because either you accept the historical reliability of the New Testament or you have to throw out all of ancient history.

[00:14:32] And I think it's a good point that you made just in passing, but let's, if we can, go to our atheistic friends. You quote from one, a naturalist philosopher, that is, he believes in nature. What is the purpose of the universe? There is none. What is the meaning of life? Ditto. Why am I here? Just dumb luck. Is there a soul? Is it immortal? Are you kidding? What happens when we die? Well, we just die.

[00:14:58] Well, that's not exactly something that's going to give you any kind of encouragement, is it? That's true. Yeah, one thing I do appreciate about that, that quote by Alex Rosenberg, a naturalist philosopher, I appreciate that at least he's honest about it. Yes. A lot of skeptics today, you know, if you try to point this out, you know, this lack of meaning on naturalism, you get a lot of pushback on that.

[00:15:25] And, you know, they'll say, oh, that's not true. We don't need God for meaning. But there's a large collection of atheists who will just bite the bullet and just admit it. So I always admire that honesty. Just, you know, don't try to sugarcoat it. You know, just kind of say it like it is. Yeah. And let's see if we can.

[00:15:52] You've got Sam Harris here said, well, I do have existential worries about death and I'm concerned about it. But let me quote from a few of his other fellow so-called new atheists. Daniel Dennett said, in the beginning there were no reasons. There were only causes. Nothing had a purpose. Nothing has so much as a function. There was no teleology in the world at all. That's pretty difficult. How about Richard Dawkins?

[00:16:18] In the universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt and other people are going to get lucky. And you won't find any rhyme or reason to it nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we would expect if at the bottom there's no design, no purpose, no evil, and no good. Nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

[00:16:46] DNA neither knows nor cares. DNA just is and we dance to its music. You know, somebody's really depressed right now and they hear just a few of these quotes. They might be tempted to end it all. But the good news is, what we're trying to say is, is that there is this deep longing for meaning.

[00:17:08] And yet the atheists who tell us, well, I can find meaning in my work or meaning in staying alive. Maybe meaning in trying to reach the singularity. The only place you're going to find real meaning is in the gospel, in Christianity, in the truthfulness of the resurrection.

[00:17:32] Because if that's not true, as the Apostle Paul says, then we're all to be pitied because it's just a vain belief. But it is not without any kind of justification. But the good news is, we can find purpose if we actually depend upon God. And in some respects, we can, as Peter even talks about, see that there's a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. That's true.

[00:18:03] You can, as an atheist or a naturalist, you can create subjective meanings for your life. Maybe you want to be, you know, the best baseball player you can be or the best plumber or teacher. But those are subjective meanings, not objective meanings.

[00:18:26] And that's kind of the key point here is, apart from God existing, there's no objective meaning. Because on naturalism, we're just sort of accidental byproducts of the universe. You know, no one put us here. There's no reason for any of it. And, you know, we just have to kind of try to manufacture our own meanings sort of out of thin air.

[00:18:55] And so that's what's completely missing on naturalism, that Christianity gives us an objective meaning because God put us here for a reason and wants to have a relationship with us. Well, let me just mention, just before I run out of time, that we do have, next to your picture, Christopher Reese, THM. We have one which is for your website, one for Facebook, one for X.

[00:19:19] If you go and just click on the one for the website, it will take you to the substack where you can see the Worldview Bulletin newsletter. Ever since Paul Copan and others that actually pulled this together, I've always said that it is a great source for news, information, worldview content. It has been a great source for my producer, Steve Miller, to find other people because I've known Doug Groteis for generations and some of the other individuals.

[00:19:49] But it seems to me that there are other people that are sort of rising stars or people writing about worldview and apologetics. And if you want to kind of be on the cutting edge and learn more about that, you can certainly go to the website, pointofview.net, or simply go to the Worldview Bulletin. So if nothing else, thank you for writing this article. Thank you for diligently being the editor-in-chief all these years. And thank you for joining us today here on Point of View.

[00:20:17] Thanks so much for having me, Kirby. God bless you. Let me just mention again, if you go to that link, the one that we provided right at the moment, where you can just see one of those, is just about the ossuary. It is actually called the James Ossuary, and it talks about James, the brother of Jesus. It's one of the ten significant archaeological evidences that Dr. Jeremiah Johnston has in his book about the Jesus discoveries.

[00:20:47] And so you could actually see that particular one and read it even without necessarily reading the entire newsletter. And this is another way for you to find out about very good books and movies and resources that will help advance your faith. We're all about apologetics. We're all about worldview. And we have always appreciated the good work that they do there at the Worldview Bulletin. So check that out. We come back, though. Iran has been in the news.

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[00:23:04] The opinions expressed on Point of View do not necessarily reflect the views of the management or staff of this station. And now, here again, is Kirby Anderson. You know, we started the program by talking about some of the developments in the Iran war. I wanted to end by talking about what is happening in Iran, especially to Christians that are there, and the outreach that exists through this wonderful ministry called Iran Alive.

[00:23:31] You can go to IranAlive.org or follow the links. From Compassion to Christ, when crisis strikes, compassion opens hearts to Christ. 120,000 documented salvations since 2001, which is when Dr. Hermos Shariat, who was born into a Muslim family in Iran, founded Iran Alive Ministries, came to Christ while earning his Ph.D. and of all things artificial intelligence,

[00:24:00] one of the topics we've addressed here so often here when he was at USC, and he has developed this technology through Iran Alive Ministries using satellite TV to reach millions of lost and broken people in Iran and throughout the Middle East, broadcast the gospel 24-7 from right here in Dallas to Iran and the Middle East. Dr. Shariat, welcome back to Point of View. Well, thank you for having me, Kirby.

[00:24:29] I might just mention we have not only a link to IranAlive.org, which I want to talk about for a few minutes, but then to this film that people can watch on YouTube, The Great American Conflict, The Clash of the Cultures, which includes you and Brigitte Gabriel, who's been on the program, a variety of other individuals. But let's talk about your ministry for just a minute, because all of our eyes are focused oftentimes on what is happening in Iran,

[00:24:58] but you probably have a better perspective on what is happening than anyone else. What can you share? Yes. I'm in touch with people in Iran. As you mentioned, we have been broadcasting satellite and social media the last few years, and I'm in touch with the believers in Iran, our leaders, our underground churches. So what's happening in Iran is very painful for the people of Iran,

[00:25:26] the massacre of 40,000 people in January, and then execute those prisoners every day. I mean, because it's every day, it's not in the news anymore, because it's repetition. They're killing these young people a few every day. Last year, it was an average of six people per day that they executed. So there is a lot of miserable misery in Iran. The war has made it worse. People are hopeless,

[00:25:54] because they were hoping that these aerial attacks by U.S. and by Netanyahu, by Israel, who bring down the government. It didn't. They're surviving. And then they're talking about negotiations. So the people of Iran are very desperate, very hopeless. We need to pray for them. At the same time, we see an openness, openness in the hearts of Iranians. As you know, in our lives, the more suffering we go through, the more open we become to the Lord.

[00:26:24] And that's what's happening in Iran. A lot of suffering, but open heaven spiritually in Iran. Let's may talk about your ministry for just a minute, broadcasting the gospel 24-7 across the Middle East, pastoring an online church of one million Iranians, and then also training Christian leaders in that country. Can you tell us a little bit more about that? Yes. You know, media is powerful. So God,

[00:26:50] you helped us and inspired us to use media over 25 years ago. But I want to encourage your audience. Hey, media is the language of today. You have to learn that. You have to use media to communicate the gospel. So we use media, satellite television, as signal goes over the heads of the mullahs into people's homes. And because the signal comes from the sky, the government, the mullahs cannot stop it. So here,

[00:27:20] what an amazing opportunity to go in the homes of millions of people. According to an independent survey, we have 7 million viewers every day. So going to 7 million people every day in their living room and talk to them, eye to eye, heart to heart, about the love of Christ, which they are seeking. They're sick and tired of the outlaw who is cruel and a distant God. And they're looking for a true God, which is love and forgiveness.

[00:27:49] So that's why we are getting such a great result. People are open to the gospel. And I want to share the power of media, you know, that they have changed their mind about Christianity. They used to be very, Iranians used to be very negative about Christianity 25 years ago, when it started. And they say, oh, they're infantiles. I mean, not just infantiles, they're adulterous people. They're always drunk and all that, but they have changed. And now with social media,

[00:28:19] you know what we can do? And we are doing with social media. It sounds like television. You go into the living room, but with social media, with these mobile phones, you're going to their bedrooms. And may I say, even to their bathrooms to talk to them about Jesus. Amazing time to use technology. And salvation is the start for us. It's not the end. People come to Christ, but God's use to make disciples. So we are discipling, we are training leaders,

[00:28:46] and we are planting online churches and underground house churches. Again, all of that is available. If you go to Iran, alive.org. And since you were talking about the number of people that are coming, whether it's you or Joel Rosenberg, or a variety of others, I think you're all saying the same thing. And that is greater number of Muslims coming to Christianity in these last few years than any time in the past.

[00:29:13] So a very significant time to strategically broadcast this message to individuals in Iran or all through the Middle East. That's right. Openness in Iran is supernatural. God has opened our hearts. And, of course, signs and wonders, visions and dreams also have had a part. Media had a part. But Jesus himself opening their hearts. And he's appearing to many, many Muslims. So this is a time.

[00:29:42] This is a historical time to work in Iran. And I ask everybody, at least pray, because what happens in Iran is not going to impact just Iran. And not just the Middle East, but the whole world. I mean, if Iranian government has a nuclear bomb, with the recklessness that we saw, you know, they attacked missiles, their neighbors, Kuwait and Dubai and every country. What if they had a nuclear bomb? They will have no problem using it. So this is not just an Iran issue.

[00:30:12] That's a world issue. We need to pray that this government will change and the people of Iran will be set free. Let me just mention again, we have a link to your website, a link to Facebook, to X, as well as Instagram. So any way that you would like to connect up with Dr. Shariach, you can do so. But we also have a link to the great American conflict, the clash of the cultures. Now, this is more than just helping us understand what is happening in Iran. In some respects, Dr.

[00:30:40] Sherrod is really helping us understand what's happening here in this country. The other day, I was invited to speak to a rotary about the issue of Islam and Sharia law. And of course, you live in this area as well. So you're well aware of the fact that more and more people are concerned about some of the mindset and some of the worldview and ideas that some of the more radical Muslims have. So bringing into even this country. Can you explain? That's right. You know, that's, that's another issue.

[00:31:10] We're working in Iran, but let me tell you the story. The last few years, we, we already come from Muslim background. We have Christians living in Iran, those who serve here and headquarters in North McKinney. So we felt a burden for America. I said, they have this nation. It's so great. It has blessed many nations because I came to Christ here and they helped me to reach out to my nation. And then we got sad. You know why?

[00:31:38] Because we saw Islam has a plan for America, has a plan for Texas. And most Americans, Christians and non-Christians, kind of like oblivious. They're half asleep. They're not seeing it. Because of that love for, for America and for love, Muslim, we love Muslim. So that's why we started. We said, we got to do something to help American churches and Christians, at least Christians to see what true Islam is.

[00:32:05] The Islam that they introduced in the West is not true Islam. True Islam is what is practiced in Iran, in Afghanistan and by ISIS. That's the true Islam. So, but they have such a, such a strategy. You mentioned Texas. Did you know over 50 mosques were started in DFW the last two years? New. A few years ago, only one or two mosques were in whole Texas.

[00:32:32] Now it's almost 400 mosques are in Texas. They have targeted Texas because of the friendliness here. They, they find a way that they can practice it. Now, some people say, so what's wrong with this? You know, we worship in our churches. Let them worship in their mosques. But the problem is, Islam is more a political concept, a political theology than spiritual. In those mosques, they have a plan,

[00:33:01] and they, they are implementing the plan to impact and to destroy the American culture. Even in DFW, they are pushing for, as you mentioned, for Sharia law. They say, we don't want to follow your law. We want to have a parallel court. We want to follow our laws. And you know what Sharia law allows? Child marriage. None of your business. If you allow it, multiple marriages, and, and the husbands beating women, they come to us and we, we take care of that. So.

[00:33:33] Let me just take a quick break because there's some more that you certainly want to cover. And we, if you're interested, have a link to Iran Alive Ministries. And you can find that on our website. We'll continue our conversation right after this. You're listening to Point of View,

[00:34:01] your listener supported source for truth. Once again, you know, one of the questions that sometimes people ask is, well, if we have people wanting to promote Sharia law, how do we respond to that? And on our booklet that we make available, we wrote one years ago, but updated it because of all things happening right here in the United States. And not far from where this broadcast is taking place in the state of Texas, I say, well, remember three numbers. One, eight and 14. One stands for the first amendment. And that is that we should not have an establishment of religion,

[00:34:31] but Sharia law would establish Islam as the major religion. So there's a problem. Eight stands for the eighth amendment, which is a prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment. And I think you can understand if you know anything about Sharia law, that that would be a violation of the eighth amendment. And then 14 stands for the idea of equal protection. That each individual has equality before the law. But under Sharia law,

[00:35:00] Muslims have more rights than Muslims. Men have more rights than women. So for a number of reasons, Dr. Hermos Shariat, Sharia law is not compatible with constitutional law, which is why you see more and more state legislatures actually passing some kind of rules, regulations, or laws prohibiting the use of Sharia law, even in civil courts, much less as criminal courts.

[00:35:29] And this is something that you've been talking about for some time, haven't you? Yes. Unfortunately, most people do not know the true Islam. The Islam in the West is a deceptive. And by the way, deception is a value in Islam. And Muhammad, the prophet did that. And the Quran is encouraging that for the cause of Allah, you can deceive. And you can, and then the result is kill, steal, and destroy, which we know who does that.

[00:36:00] So we have to be aware. Our goal to produce that documentary, Iran's Great Awakening, is a documentary we just released. Our goal was to bring fear to the heart of people, but awareness. And not hatred towards the people, towards Muslims in the heart of people, but love. Some people say, are you Islamophobic? I said, no, I'm not Islamophobic. I'm Islamophilic. I love them. It's you who are afraid of them. And it's you who are afraid to tell the truth.

[00:36:30] One of my friends, let me tell you this. One of my friends who was a Muslim, came to Christ in America. He told me this. He said, Americans don't know what's going on in this mosque. I was there. I was a part of a mosque. And they don't even dare to ask. He said, in our mosque, they don't come, U.S. government, they don't come and say, what are you teaching here? He said, did you know in our library, in the mosque that I used to go,

[00:36:57] there were books about subverting America, how to take over America. There were books there, there were classes there, in my mosque. But U.S. government, does not dare to go and say, what are you preaching? What are you doing? What is in your library? He said, that's what's happening. Islam is political, has a plan, long-term plan for America. Is that a hype? Is that a hypothesis? Am I just making a small thing big? No, no, no. Just look at Europe.

[00:37:27] Look at U.K. U.K., where it is, it's where U.S. will be if we don't do anything. But Muslims are taking over the cities in U.K. they're implementing Sharia Allah, and it happens gradually. Let's be careful. Let's be watchful, not hate Muslims. Actually, I want to, when people who see this documentary, getting, of course, you know, become aware, but at the same time, be motivated to reach out to Muslims

[00:37:56] with love of Christ and share the gospel, because many of them are open. So, watch this documentary, share it in your church, bring awareness to America, but not to cause hatred, but to cause love, and not to cause fear, but to cause love. Perfect love casts us fear. Liz McCann, talk about what is available. First of all, we have a link to the trailer, and I know that busy people right now might just simply say, okay, let me just kind of see what it's going to be like,

[00:38:25] and you've got a couple of interviews there that give you a pretty good understanding of that, but then if somebody wanted to show the film to their family, to their church, or something like that, it does seem to me that there is a way in which they can connect up with you, and how can they do so? Yes, we make a request. If they go to our landing page, we just added that option too. Now, just watch the film. We added the option that I want to show this in our church or our group,

[00:38:55] and number three option, we have a few staff that are passionate about America and helping America. These are all Muslim background believers living in the U.S. We have great speakers that can come to your church that show the film, but teach and talk about and train about Muslim evangelism and evangelism in general. So, you can watch the film, you can show it in a group, or you can even ask for a speaker from our team to come and share that in your church or group.

[00:39:25] And let me just mention again that you can go to the website, go all the way to the bottom, and it has Iran Live, and then it has the email, it has the phone, it has some of the ways in which you can contact, and if you want to support the ministry, you can do so as well. But I think the first step is simply to go and watch that short video that is a trailer. And then I was remiss in pointing out the fact that while I was also talking

[00:39:53] about the website of Iran Live, we also have the website, your own personal one as well. And people don't have to know how to spell your name because we have that link there as well. So we have two different websites, Facebook, X, and Instagram, all sorts of great opportunities. And if you really are concerned about what is happening in Iran, and you should, I think you should pray for this ministry, pray for the believers in Iran, pray for a change. And again, there are just all sorts of issues

[00:40:23] front and center that have reminded us of the fact that Iran could not have a nuclear weapon, should not have a nuclear weapon. And of course, we're engaged in a military action there as well. So Dr. Sheriot, it's always good to have you on the program. I appreciate the great work that you are doing. And I encourage people to go to your website. We've got all the links in our newly updated website, of pointofview.net. So thank you for being with us today here on Point of View. Well, thank you so much, Brother Kirby.

[00:40:53] You're doing a great part in your mission to bring awareness to Americans. And you are a perfect choice for the Lord to do this. Well, thank you very much. Just before we go, let me mention that tomorrow is our Friday weekend edition. One of the other things you will find on our website, which of course, so we've always had, is my daily commentary, which actually today is based on this new book by Gattsad. Dr. Gattsad has been on the program before. Matter of fact, I've heard from my producer, Steve Miller, who's going to try to get him on again.

[00:41:23] We talked about his previous book, but this newest one, Suicidal Empathy, Dying to be Kind, is a good connection to that because, for example, even in the latest PragerU video, he talks about how in Germany, the German Chancellor Angela Merkel brought an open-door policy, brought in all sorts of Muslim migrants who had no intention of assimilating into their host society. You can see the same thing as we just talked about in England and other places, and as a result,

[00:41:53] this is a classic illustration of what he calls suicidal empathy. Yes, empathy is a virtue, but unchecked, it can be a vice when instead you shut off your rational mind and you no longer think through the implications of some of your political policies, you pay a price. So my commentary today is based really primarily on this very good PragerU video with Gat Sad. I've got the book, actually just waiting so we could do

[00:42:22] an interview with him because it is very concerning about the fact that if you want a flourishing of Western civilization, we need to end this suicidal empathy right this very day. You can find all that on our website at pointofview.net. But first of all, let me thank Megan for her help engineering the program. Steve, thank you for producing the program. If you find yourself saying I'd like to know a little bit more about some of the things Christopher Reese has written about,

[00:42:52] Omar Sherriot has written about, some of the things we talked about in terms of the Iran war, or even our very good piece by Victor Davis Hanson about stop destroying civilization, all available at the website pointofview.net. That's all we have for today. Look forward to seeing you tomorrow right here on Point of View. Will the American experiment endure? As we approach the 250th anniversary for our nation,

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