Point of View July 3, 2024 – Hour 2 : Mid-Week News

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[00:00:47] conversation. But I thought as a program note, I just happened to stumble onto, although I would have seen it later, something that is being actually was just being recorded and broadcast while I was coming on the air so I didn't have

[00:01:00] a chance to see all of it but most of it and it comes from our good friends at First Liberty. First Liberty Live spent some time with Tim Barton if you're not familiar with that. David Barton is his father and that is Wall Builders and

[00:01:13] Wall Builders is an excellent organization which we have had various guests on in the past but it was very interesting what they were doing and that is Stuart Shepard who oftentimes does these interviews went over to this

[00:01:28] incredible library they have in Aledo, Texas and in this building which is air conditioned they have just an incredible number of original manuscripts, books, Bibles, a variety of other things. It opens up with Tim Barton showing this proclamation from then the governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts which

[00:01:50] would be of course the guest that was there and then he talks about some of the various Bibles including the idea of the Bible that was first produced in America, the Aiken Bible. He also shows one that was actually produced under

[00:02:10] John Witherspoon who was the pastor who came to what today we call Princeton University which was New Jersey at that time the New Jersey College and it was just fascinating so you know got documents from Alexander Hamilton and

[00:02:27] John Hancock and all sorts of things. Anyway the John Hancock one I thought was kind of interesting because it goes through how they wanted to have a time of prayer after the threat on the life if you will of George Washington and the

[00:02:41] revolutionary fighters because of our Domenedic Arnold. So anyway it's just fascinating material but what I thought was so helpful is I have been to that library before, it's been almost two decades since I've been there and they've

[00:02:57] redone it a little bit but plus I would have to say that even if you weren't able to travel to the DFW area, even if you were able to drive all the way from the

[00:03:06] airport to Aledo Texas, even if you were then to be able to go there you might get a short tour at best of that incredible library that they put together and here you can actually watch it online so I think we'll try to put that post up in

[00:03:23] the future so that if you'd like to know a little bit more about some aspects of America's godly heritage it would be available. Of course we talked with Jerry Newcomb yesterday and I would certainly recommend that we work very hard over

[00:03:37] these next few years to educate first yourself and then your children and grandchildren because we have unfortunately lost a great deal of American history and as I will point out in just a minute I think some of it is

[00:03:51] due to the fact that the people doing history doing even American history if you don't have biblical literacy and if you haven't read some of the old books the older historical books and you only read the current fads which are actually

[00:04:06] politically correct you will not even understand what was in the minds and the hearts of the framers of the Constitution and the founders of this country and with that as background my commentary tomorrow really reminds us that the Declaration of Independence is a very significant document and Thomas

[00:04:26] Jefferson was actually responsible for drafting it along with a number of other people Benjamin Franklin John Adams and the rest and then a lot of people say well where did these ideas come from and Thomas Jefferson was pretty honest about

[00:04:42] the fact that many of his ideas came from a man by the name of John Locke now they also came from some other individuals as well but if you think about it was John Locke's two treatises of government which many people actually

[00:04:56] say was kind of Samuel Rutherford's Lex Rex in a more popularized form but again they talk about the fact of the law of nature and nature's God will the law of nature is common grace which we just talked about a minute ago with Roger

[00:05:12] Henderson the revelation that we have here the inalienable rights and things which are evident and then of course the law of God and of course that's God's scripture and so you have that idea being communicated as well and also I

[00:05:27] would think most people would agree that not only did Thomas Jefferson borrow from many ideas written by John Locke maybe Modiskew and a few others but also George Mason and George Mason probably best known for a couple things first of

[00:05:43] all if you've ever been to Williamsburg and I have you get to tour through his house many people see him as kind of the father of the Second Amendment but he also is the drafter probably the best known for what is called the Declaration

[00:05:56] of Rights now for a minute just recognize that this was actually published in June of 1776 of course the Declaration was ratified actually July 2nd although we now celebrate on July 4th 1776 but just listen to the paragraph of George Mason's

[00:06:17] Declaration of Rights and see if it sounds familiar in the Declaration of Rights it says all men are born equally free and independent and have certain inherent natural rights among these are the enjoyment of life and liberty and

[00:06:33] the means of acquiring and possessing property and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety that sound like the Declaration of Independence it's almost a paraphrase because we certainly recognize that we are endowed by our Creator with certain what inalienable rights that among these are

[00:06:52] life liberty and the pursuit of happiness so I think one of the great arguments here is that those were some great sources but one other one I thought I'd mention and that brings me to my commentary on Friday I quote from

[00:07:06] Michael Novak I did a little bit of that yesterday but he Michael Novak points out that many of the ideas existed even before John Locke he says in his book for example on two wings before John Locke was even born the pilgrims

[00:07:22] believed in the consent of the governed social compacts the dignity of every child of God and political equality if you then look from the pilgrims to the Puritans and those covenants you can begin to see that many of those ideas

[00:07:39] that ended up first in the Declaration and later in the Constitution actually came from Christian sources the sad reality is many secular historians who aren't necessarily biblically illiterate simply kind of ignore that and Michael

[00:07:57] Novak made the case on the two wings they ignore the second wing for the eagle to fly you need both wings you certainly of course need the Enlightenment but you also needed the Christian influence and we have been told about the connection

[00:08:13] to the Enlightenment but we have pretty much ignored the connection to Christian ideas and really we need to come back to look at the two wings of history and that's just a preface to the commentary that I have coming out on Friday once

[00:08:30] again I don't want to overplay the Christian influence but unfortunately we've lived in a world that is completely ignored the Christian influence in the founding of this country and the framing of our government let's take a break

[00:08:43] though let's look at a couple things that have been taking place this week and we'll be back right after this this is viewpoints with Kirby Anderson you know when two boys are wrestling in

[00:09:04] the living room and break something a parent is sure to say this is why we can't have nice things Christian Snyder applies this to a society at large arguing we can no longer have nice things he opens with a story of the portal which is a public

[00:09:17] technology sculpture it beams live video from the streets of New York City to Dublin Ireland is one of several planned portals meant to virtually teleport people across the globe it was supposed to be a symbol of unity and

[00:09:29] wonder that draws in crowds from far and wide was built to last for centuries it only lasted six days people in New York and Dublin broadcast middle fingers and body parts this is just one example of the decline of decorum and civility in our society

[00:09:44] America's culture is fraying he talked about stores having problems with self checkout lanes some stores will limit the lanes to people who pay a $98 annual fee during the pandemic food chains set up online systems so customers could

[00:09:58] order on their phones pay for it and then pick it off the shelf unfortunately many other people are grabbing the meals off the shelf and this happened to me when I ordered dinner for my family at McAllister's

[00:10:09] recently Disneyland and Disney World had to crack down on the rapidly growing number of people who claim disability status in order to avoid long wait lines on the rides at their amusement parks apparently this trick was promoted on

[00:10:23] social media so people could game the system and as I write this a new story just dropped about climate activists disturbing another athletic event and don't even think about letting these activists into an art museum when a

[00:10:35] society is in cultural decline you can no longer have nice things I'm Kirby Anderson and that's my point of view go deeper on topics like you just heard by visiting pointofview.net that's pointofview.net you're listening to Point of View your listener supported source for truth

[00:11:03] once again if you'd like to join the conversation 1-800-351-1212 I suspect probably you're getting ready for the fourth of July weekend and you might even not be listening to this live but let me just mention that that is a possibility if you'd like to join us

[00:11:18] I will also say that tomorrow if you do happen to be listening to radio the first hour I do a teaching on the fourth of July on the Declaration of Independence on the Constitution on the Federalist Papers and some of that so that is

[00:11:33] available if you'd like to listen to it either live or later on and then the second hour we have this interview I've done with Sean McDowell I think you really appreciate that conversation and if that's not enough on Friday we decided

[00:11:45] to maybe not actually do a live show as well so we will be playing an interview I've done with Lee Strobel the first hour with Chris Thurman the second hour so those are some things that are available to you and of course we'll be back live on Monday

[00:11:58] ok we are a week past a presidential debate one of my guests said off air and might as well say it on air he said when the debate almost began I said I don't know why anybody's watching this it won't change anybody's mind

[00:12:16] he said boy was I wrong and that is the case my first article is from David Harsanyi I actually quote from him with some regularity and he just reminds us of how in less than a week we've gone from

[00:12:29] misinformation to fact when it relates to President Biden's mental decline and so he reminds us that on CNN and this I believe was on Monday so this is two days old but the article came out yesterday

[00:12:47] he was talking about Carl Bernstein and he's best known for of course one of those individuals that broke the story about Watergate with Washington Post well anyway Carl Bernstein reported that people close to Joe Biden people who

[00:13:01] loved him have supported him and among them some people who would raise a lot of money for him that's a direct quote from him say that his debate performance he put it as the disastrous debate performance was wasn't a one-off there

[00:13:17] were some that say well I just had a bad night you know everybody can have a bad night not necessarily because he said according to these insiders there are at least 15 or 20 occasions in the last

[00:13:29] year and a half when the president had appeared somewhat as he did in the as he said horror show that we witnessed and David Harsanyi said yeah we know but again remind everyone that even this time last week we were being told that

[00:13:46] these were misleading Republican videos these were deep fakes these were highly edited videos and now we've gone from this is just a lot of misinformation disinformation deliberate video editing to yeah I guess it's a fact and again

[00:14:07] that one of the things that David Harsanyi talks about here is the same network CNN you had Oliver Darcy attacked what were called the glaring problems with a very well-sourced Wall Street Journal article which I talked about yesterday which detailed a litany of various slips by the current

[00:14:30] president Joe Biden and even before that you had CNN ran a piece and I'm giving you the quote right-wing media outlets use deceptively cropped video to misleadingly claim that Biden wandered off at the g7 summit these are the kind

[00:14:49] of things that were actually quite standard fair until last Thursday night and so again before the debate we even had an article this comes from NBC misleading Republican videos of Biden are going viral the fact checks have

[00:15:08] trouble keeping up by the way I'm going to talk about fact checks before we're done here as well and this goes into some of the issues another one NBC News a deceptive Biden g7 video was quickly debunked but it kept going viral anyway

[00:15:23] so the press and the push and all of the argument was is that don't take any of the things you see video wise seriously there is a great little comic bit now by some comedian suggesting in a world of AI and deep fakes why haven't they just

[00:15:44] created some AI deep fakes making Joe Biden look good and then he goes on with some interesting lines about what would or wouldn't be said but again there was a real attempt as David Harsanyi says to hide the truth that this was just a good

[00:16:02] example of mega misinformation and the rest and how only a couple weeks have made a difference actually just the last week or so has made a difference in terms of how we were once told that these were issues that you're actually

[00:16:19] reading too much into everybody occasionally has a mental slip every once in a while somebody can't remember a name that's nothing you know yes people sometimes trip but it's you know you're trying to make too much out of

[00:16:34] too little and there have been some times when I quite frankly think that press looking for some kind of information whether it's a politician or even just think of all the celebrities where if there's just one little glitch

[00:16:52] here or there it begins to be magnified so that is certainly the case but again at the very end David Harsanyi reminds us of Politico which in some respects he calls one of the worst offenders in the Biden decline cover-up is now turned into

[00:17:12] a mouthpiece because they are actually now saying we've all enabled the situation sources within Biden's inner sanctum suddenly tell Politico it's like you can't include that that will set him off and as a result they say they really

[00:17:29] can't even necessarily bring some of the press some of the military and security briefing to him because that might set him off and so now all of a sudden people are starting to say he really isn't a very pleasant man

[00:17:45] David Harsanyi again says and this is new because anyone who's followed President Biden or in this case Senator Joe Biden's 40-year career has seen how unpleasant he could be at times and the example that oftentimes Jeremy Dice likes to use when

[00:18:04] we talk about somebody like Clarence Thomas or Joe Biden is how he that is Senator Joe Biden was actually misrepresenting to Clarence Thomas what the hearing was going to be like and then blindsided him and then during the

[00:18:21] hearing at one point Senator Joe Biden just goes off on a reporter that asked a very legitimate question about his educational background and of course there are stories that have been circulating for some time about that but

[00:18:37] now all of a sudden it's become at least legitimate for the press to actually talk about the fact that there's been a mental decline and there's been even a legitimate for the press to talk about how in many cases he or even sometimes

[00:18:53] his family can be very unpleasant to be around which causes some people to ask another question why the switch everybody was certainly in lockstep up until last Thursday whether you were talking to a Democratic leader a member

[00:19:10] of the DNC a member of Congress that's a Democrat whether it's a person in the White House or anybody that was with NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC sometimes Fox News would stray a little bit but mostly everybody was pretty much saying I think he's fine

[00:19:27] now you see the split well the split makes sense that is if you're in the Democratic Party you say I don't know that we have a good alternative to Joe Biden so we have to keep up saying that you know he had a bad day had a cold

[00:19:43] he'll do better next time but the media they've been embarrassed because they've been covering it for so long so what before was almost a sort of lockstep statement you see a split that I think is going to get worse and worse as time

[00:19:59] goes on and of course we'll see whether or not we do have a Joe Biden who will be nominated and ultimately confirmed as the nominee for the presidency in August but there are weeks before that takes place just before take a break though I

[00:20:17] wanted to once again mention that we do have a take action item for you we have sent out an email explaining it it's a piece of legislation Ted Cruz has put forward called take it down act and it would require social media platforms to

[00:20:33] remove explicit images of individuals who have been victimized by what we call pornographic deep fake images oftentimes referred to as revenge porn this all comes from a very sad story of a young lady Elliston Barry who also lives in Aledo Texas where I just mentioned a minute

[00:20:55] ago wall builders and was victimized by this and how difficult it was to actually get social media big tech to remove the sexual material that was exploitative as a result this is why this piece of legislation is being

[00:21:12] proposed you'd like to know more you can click on the button that says take action and let your two United States senators know you think that's a good idea let's take a break have a lot more to cover will do that right after this

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[00:23:04] view do not necessarily reflect the views of the management or staff of the station and now here again is Kirby Anderson back once again for about a half an hour and then we're going to encourage you to enjoy your fourth of

[00:23:18] July weekend as I mentioned before but let me mention again I will be doing a teaching tomorrow in the first hour then we'll be doing an interview that we've already taped with Sean McDowell on Friday Lee Strobel will be with us and

[00:23:32] Chris Thurman and then we'll be back to a great week of broadcasting next week so I think you'll appreciate all that we have posted if you just joined us and I know people kind of tune in and tune out first of all we did a very good

[00:23:44] interview with Roger Henderson and Steve Miller on the artistic sphere let me again encourage you to maybe think about what you might want to do to encourage people within your church that have an artistic bent one of the free

[00:23:58] materials that we make available is this book that I'm holding up by Steve Miller on imagination this by the way is a shorter version but a quite very readable version of a longer essay and you can follow that essay to get its in

[00:24:11] in its entirety but it would be something you might want to get a copy of and pass it on to somebody who's in the arts and as we had Roger really encouraging you to do follow your calling you know there is a calling to

[00:24:24] every position and every area and if you have an artistic ability I hope that you will use it to the glory of God and yet sometimes in the church let's just be

[00:24:35] honest if you have a musical ability if you can sing oh we got a place for you in the choir you got maybe ability with an instrument well we might have a orchestra although a lot of your churches maybe just have a guitar player

[00:24:48] but whatever and so we can kind of fit you in there if you're a painter or a sculptor or a dancer or you know you think of all the other arts well we're not quite sure where to put you and we're not sure how to encourage you and

[00:25:04] yet I think one of the reasons why we want to continue doing broadcast here on how Christians can think about the arts you would certainly benefit not only from this booklet by Steve but also we mentioned for example the

[00:25:18] Francis Schaeffer book art in the Bible we mentioned Hans Ruckmacher and his book and many of the other resources so take advantage of those because we think that the arts are a very important aspect of the Christian life and

[00:25:34] sometimes a very neglected part which is why we're trying to do our part here on Point of View. Again I mentioned the action item and if you have not taken the time to just learn about it very quickly and click on that button that

[00:25:48] says take action I have my viewpoints commentary but I thought I'd pick up something that we did post yesterday which was called the March of Dimes syndrome I did mention it about a week ago but it's worth coming back to because

[00:26:02] I think John Tierney has done a good job if you're not familiar with it those of us that ever had to take a class in government and I took many as you might know we always learned about the March of Dimes scenario or the March of Dimes

[00:26:20] syndrome because what happened is that the March of Dimes created in the 1930s with the idea of raising funds and there each person would contribute a dime back then when a dime was worth something and this was an idea that we really

[00:26:38] eventually want to eradicate polio well I remember by the 1950s my dad word it worked in the pharmaceutical area and I remember us all getting our oral polio we had polio shots and I of course have one person on my staff that has polio but

[00:26:55] nobody else I mean anybody under the age of 60 probably has never even really thought about polio and yet that was something that struck Franklin Delano Roosevelt and others so you know really by the 1950s certainly by the 1960s

[00:27:10] polio was a non-issue so the March of Dimes went out of business oh no they just transition to another cause and we talk about that in government because there's good examples we have for example I still think in the government a

[00:27:25] rural electrification or agency I think we've got electricity to most of the people in the rural areas and a variety of other examples that I could give you of agencies that really don't need to exist but you are really hard put to

[00:27:43] sometimes get rid of them well John Tierney came up with it in a different way and I really appreciate that and that is sometimes when you have an organization a social movement a social justice movement that is trying to fight

[00:27:58] for the rights of LGBTQ for the rights of African-Americans whatever it might be climate change or whatever sometimes at the end when you get a level of success that doesn't cause them to say okay I think we need to go do something

[00:28:16] else and he gives a couple of examples one is that if you were to just pay attention to the human rights campaign last year they declared a national state of emergency for LGBTQ people and as I point out in my commentary you know

[00:28:33] anti-sodomy laws were erased decades ago same-sex marriage has been legalized by the Supreme Court and supported by frankly most Americans gay characters can be found in TV and movies and commercials matter of fact if you even

[00:28:47] dare bake a cake for somebody and decide not to maybe bake it for a gay couple you know you're gonna be in court and again the argument is well they're victimized and I'm telling you you cannot tell me that a group is

[00:29:01] victimized when they get their own month you can't tell me that they're victimized when they get their own flag and you can't tell me they're victimized when even a nominee to the Supreme Court when asked to define a

[00:29:14] woman can't give you an answer that tells you a lot right there and another example I give is of course the Southern Poverty Law Center which at some time used to bring suits against the Ku Klux Klan I haven't run into a whole lot of people

[00:29:28] that are KKK members of you probably not so they started then saying well we'll just label anybody we disagree with all sorts of conservative groups all sorts of Christian groups as hate groups and you can see this phenomenon and it's

[00:29:44] just a reminder as we talk about so often here on Point of View the need for to have some discernment the more shrill sometimes the accusations probably the greater illustration that they're looking harder and harder to find an

[00:30:02] example for their justification and when the supply is less than to demand that's when you start getting these fake hate crimes and all sorts of other issues so I just thought I'd put that on the table real quickly but one of the other

[00:30:16] articles I thought I would mention real quickly is the fact that here Noah Rothman says you know with all the things happening with Joe Biden you would think that at this point there would be maybe some introspection and

[00:30:33] probably not what he actually argues is that sometimes Democrats have actually become what they really hate and that is one of the I think legitimate arguments sometimes about Donald Trump and people that were around him is that the

[00:30:50] arguments would be that well this is going to destroy the America this is going to kill the American dream that Democrats are going to dismantle police departments by the way I think each one of those had some truthfulness to them

[00:31:06] and so some of the extreme statements some of the what were called lies during the debate or even what were used back from 2016 to 2020 2016 2020 by President Donald Trump now you have people supporting Joe Biden that are doing the

[00:31:29] same thing they used to criticize him for for example that democracy is at stake and we will eventually descend into an autocracy that we will have a permanent dictatorship of Donald Trump is elected and as again he points out to

[00:31:51] the uninitiated ear this sounds like hyperbole fueled by hyper partisanship panic and a limited familiarity with the court's rulings but the push and the shove and the warning in all the rest is a little bit reminiscent to some of the

[00:32:09] things we talked about just a minute ago in terms of the March of Diamond Dimes syndrome and that is we can't win the argument by simply saying here are the positive policies we've implemented we have to always criticize the other

[00:32:26] side and we've seen it on both sides in pretty significant ways and so as a result of one of the other articles I've posted for you is by Gerard Baker that indeed one of the reasons why Joe Biden was picked in the first place is that he

[00:32:45] would be very loyal to Barack Obama he would provide a little bit of credibility foreign policy credibility and as a result that would be his service and then was pretty much planning at the end of 2016 and 2017 to

[00:33:05] pretty much go into a comfortable life but his party called him back out and that's where I saw something the other day where Tucker Carlson had even announced before he'd even run against Donald Trump that many people that were

[00:33:22] part of his family had said that he was suffering from dementia so it turns out that in 2019 or 2019 actually even before he announced his candidacy there were people saying I don't think you should run because of dementia and now

[00:33:38] we know they knew that back then and we were told for essentially four years that no it's just a figment of your imagination you read the article it is fascinating you're listening to point of view your listener supported source for truth back

[00:34:01] for a few more minutes let me just mention that again we're going to run tapes Thursday and Friday but you don't want to miss Monday we got Jay Warner Wallace with us and we'll be having a really good week of interviews I would

[00:34:12] matter of fact we're going to talk about Bible translation we also have I think Christian Overman talking about this new video they've produced just some really great material that will be taking place next week but I thought

[00:34:22] just before we and next week we are probably not going to be talking about the debate I don't know it's hard to figure that out but even after the debate on Friday I always like to do a little bit on fact-checking because

[00:34:36] after all both sides both Donald Trump and Joe Biden said some things which I think we could legitimately call exaggerations or course the media likes to call them lies and I thought this piece by John Goodman would be very

[00:34:52] appropriate now John Goodman if you don't know him used to be the head of the NCPA that was a National Center for Policy Analysis Ivy Nichols who used to be with us used to work there as a matter of fact

[00:35:05] Alan West came to work there and John Goodman was the boss for Dr. Merrill Matthews so if you want to try to see some connection there he used to be Dr. Merrill Matthews boss when they were both at NCPA John Goodman now has the

[00:35:20] Goodman Institute and he did a piece on fact-checking the two presidents and he pointed out something that I was really thinking we need to address he says although news articles often called Donald Trump a liar he says I don't

[00:35:37] think I've ever seen the term used when discussing Joe Biden and it got me thinking really and so then he gives you a couple of examples here of various news outlets accusing Donald Trump of numerous falsehoods but they couldn't

[00:35:52] find a single Biden falsehood which is amazing because if nothing else just days before Joe Biden used the classic illustration from Charlottesville that Donald Trump said these good people were neo-nazis he did not even Snopes which

[00:36:09] is kind of a left-of-center fact-checker said that's not true you can come up with those also that he claimed that the inflation rate was 9% when he took over when everybody can document that it was 1.4% even the New York Times said that

[00:36:24] but let's be honest Donald Trump would do himself a real favor if he would just add two words to many of his claims really because lots of times he'll say I have the largest tax cut in American history if you could just say I had one

[00:36:43] of the largest tax cuts in American history I don't think you could challenge that you might say for example you know we have the greatest number of people crossing the border in history probably but again you would be able to protect

[00:36:58] yourself if you just said one of the worst examples of immigrants crossing the southern border do you see the point there's he just doesn't help himself because he is given to hyperbole he's given to exaggeration and it's of course

[00:37:14] I don't know anybody that works with him but I would just say Mr. President if you could just add the words one of instead of the I think of some of these so-called falsehoods would actually evaporate very quickly but again John

[00:37:31] Goodman takes on a few and in the interest of time only pick out a few first of all immigration first of all he reminds us that back in January President Biden claimed I've done all I can do to secure the border and yet he

[00:37:46] actually has taken 300 executive actions on immigration in many cases rescinding many of those that had been implemented by Donald Trump and so that is the case and then of course follows that up with if Congress would just act

[00:38:05] and give me the power of acts asked for from the very day I got into office and yet these are the same congressional laws that presidents Barack Obama and Donald Trump had before so that is the case now when Donald Trump tries to be

[00:38:21] inflammatory and says that innocent girls have been raped and killed again is that true has that happened yes is that a lot or is it many it makes it very easy for fact-checkers to say well he's just making it sound like anybody

[00:38:37] crosses the border no but again were there examples of individuals that have been raped or killed yes was that the best way to say it no does that end up as a fact-check that shows that he was lying yes but again I come back to the

[00:38:54] point that John Goodman raised and I had not really paid attention to that yes Donald Trump does exaggerate facts he says but in so doing he sometimes does not really put the issue together the abortion issues another good example

[00:39:09] because again he made it sound as if all the stated position of the Democratic Party was abortion up till birth if you listen this program you know that essentially that is essentially what has been proposed for example by a governor

[00:39:28] in Virginia Democratic governor but again maybe it is a little too extreme to make that case a better way to have said that would be for Donald Trump to say I believe as he said before that I think the state should actually make the

[00:39:45] decision through an extended debate but I do want to ask President Biden is there ever a time when you think abortion should be illegal I think that would have been a good question might have even been one for the panelists to

[00:40:00] say you know the question I think you should ask my opponent for just a minute is is there ever a time when this president would say abortion should be illegal if he can't give you any examples then what I just said I think

[00:40:13] would be true again it's a different way to look at that and of course then you have the other kinds of claims Donald Trump saying there would be no war in Ukraine had he been president there would probably have been no invasion of

[00:40:28] Hamas into Israel if he had been president ok that's obviously a lot more than you might have there but again the issue is I think so interesting that when you look at this particular article and it

[00:40:43] goes on for four pages by John Goodman he reminds us that we have fact-checkers in major institutions the New York Times Wall Street Journal others that can accuse Donald Trump of many falsehoods lies and that's certainly appropriate

[00:41:01] for some of the things he said but they couldn't find a single Biden lie when there were some that were easily established so again the whole issue is we need to have some discernment and when we even get down to the whole issue

[00:41:18] of the budget I love this last one about deficit spending again there are people that have pointed out how much has been accumulated in terms of the deficit each year of those questions certainly need to be asked but the bigger question and I

[00:41:36] will give credit to the moderators is given the fact that the national debt keeps going up and as we've said on this program whether you have a Republican president or a Democratic president whether you have a Republican controlled

[00:41:49] Congress or Democratic controlled Congress what are either of you going to do and of course neither give you an answer and that's I think the sad commentary on where we find ourselves today but one last time let me mention

[00:42:03] that if you'd like some of these articles on fact-checking the president or a pilot how we went from misinformation to established fact simply because of one presidential debate or if you'd like to know a little bit more about this book the artistic sphere which I would highly recommend

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