Point of View January 3, 2025 – Hour 2 : Weekend Edition

[00:00:04] Across America Live, this is Point of View, Kirby Anderson.

[00:00:20] Second and over, of course, we have Penidectra Kelly Shackelford in the studio, but of course, as we well know, on New Year's Day, a couple of things happening simultaneously.

[00:00:28] And one, what is happening first in the French Quarter on Bourbon Street in New Orleans, an individual who plowed into a number of individuals, four killed with him making it 15 individuals killed and others hurt.

[00:00:41] And then at the same time, an individual in a Tesla truck outside of the basically Trump International Hotel blows up.

[00:00:55] The argument at the time, first of all, and this is our first article, was this was not a terrorist event, at least according to one FBI agent.

[00:01:02] Shortly thereafter, said, well, maybe it is an act of terrorism.

[00:01:05] And then, of course, we're still told by the FBI that there is no definitive link between these two individuals.

[00:01:11] I love this list by Tom, Paul Sperry.

[00:01:14] He said, well, yeah, but they use the same app.

[00:01:16] They had weaponized vehicles.

[00:01:18] They had IEDs.

[00:01:19] They struck on holiday.

[00:01:20] They targeted tourist towns.

[00:01:21] They're about the same age.

[00:01:22] They both were in the army.

[00:01:24] They both were stationed at that time.

[00:01:26] Fort Bragg now called Force Liberty.

[00:01:28] They both went to Afghanistan, both anti-Trump Democrats, although now they're starting to say the one in Las Vegas is a MAGA.

[00:01:36] Don't believe that.

[00:01:36] And both on suicide missions.

[00:01:38] But just a remarkable coincidence.

[00:01:41] And I think it gets back to this piece, Kelly and Penna, about Noah Rothman, because, you know, Penna, we've talked about sometimes we just aren't getting a lot of transparency sometimes from people in the government.

[00:01:54] And that's why Noah took the time not only to talk about the reaction from the FBI, but took us all the way back to Anthony Fauci and back to a variety of other times in which we are just told one thing when our common sense tells us something else.

[00:02:09] Yes.

[00:02:10] I mean, I just think it takes a lot of, I guess, boldness to go out and be an official in New Orleans and say this was not an act of terrorism so quickly, so soon.

[00:02:19] And it's funny, in this particular situation, things are happening too quickly.

[00:02:24] Like, for instance, I thought it was weird that a reporter was giving a tour of the terrorist's apartment before they even had very much information about it.

[00:02:35] Normally, we have no information.

[00:02:37] Now we can see.

[00:02:38] We know that he was an ISIS follower.

[00:02:41] We know that he had a Koran in there.

[00:02:44] And we know that he's probably got those suicidal tendencies because he's looking to his reward.

[00:02:51] And we know, you know, marital problems and all those things.

[00:02:54] But there's so many things we don't know.

[00:02:56] And yet we saw his apartment.

[00:02:58] I thought that was weird.

[00:02:59] But, you know, somebody.

[00:03:00] The New York Post got there before the FBI.

[00:03:02] Right.

[00:03:02] The FBI hadn't even been there yet.

[00:03:04] What the heck?

[00:03:05] How are they allowed in?

[00:03:06] What's wrong with this picture?

[00:03:07] Sure.

[00:03:08] But I think elected officials are going too far in trying to manipulate the public, in trying to get out there and say things.

[00:03:17] And they end up saying things that aren't true.

[00:03:19] And so, you know, okay, there's a balance there.

[00:03:23] There's, you know, just look back to the drones of a few going on for a few weeks.

[00:03:28] We know nothing.

[00:03:29] We don't know anything yet about it.

[00:03:31] They haven't told us nothing.

[00:03:33] And so, you know, to me, that's not transparent enough.

[00:03:36] I think in this situation, it's not transparent enough, but it's also too soon in making definitive statements.

[00:03:43] So, you know, that doesn't engender any more trust than not saying anything.

[00:03:48] Yeah.

[00:03:48] I think there's – it's a real problem.

[00:03:50] Right?

[00:03:52] It really all started during COVID.

[00:03:56] I think most of us trusted medical officials, you know, to only say what they could say, even though – I mean, again, I think I've told this story, but I think of my wife having breast cancer, stage 3B breast cancer.

[00:04:11] And at the end of all that chemo and radiation and just – she got hit with everything.

[00:04:17] At the end, all they would tell her is there is no evidence of disease.

[00:04:21] Not the cancer is gone.

[00:04:23] There's no evidence of disease.

[00:04:25] Because they were being scientists.

[00:04:26] They were being doctors.

[00:04:28] And we lost that with Fauci who was intentionally lying at times.

[00:04:33] And people started to not trust there.

[00:04:37] And then you had, I think, you know, especially when Biden came in.

[00:04:42] I mean, Biden has had a – I mean, this is just who he is.

[00:04:45] He has prevaricated his entire life.

[00:04:49] He started out, you know, saying he was finished at the top of his class in law school when it was the bottom of his class.

[00:04:57] And he stole people's speeches and had to drop out of presidential campaign.

[00:05:02] And he's always had a problem telling the truth.

[00:05:05] And it just got so bold and so blatant so that we're telling people that really the economy is good when they knew it was a lie.

[00:05:15] And, I mean, it all came to a head in the election.

[00:05:18] But there were so – and we could go through a hundred of these types of things.

[00:05:23] And then to have the situation with the drones and to never tell anybody the truth, I just –

[00:05:53] And he got convinced as president not to do it.

[00:05:58] But he promised again he would do it next time.

[00:06:01] I think he's learned his lesson that, you know, the deep state can, you know, can tell him things and lie and bring up information and all that.

[00:06:12] I think he's going to be more open and more transparent.

[00:06:15] But we'll have to see.

[00:06:16] There's a temptation when you're in charge not to be.

[00:06:19] But I do think – I just don't – I think the drone thing, I don't see Trump letting that go.

[00:06:24] I think he would say, look, here's the answer.

[00:06:27] Or if he didn't know, he'd say, shoot it down.

[00:06:29] Shoot him down or whatever he had to do because I just don't – I mean, that became really, really acceptable with this administration to just lie about things over and over again.

[00:06:42] Even that people knew in front of their eyes it wasn't true, that's going to be over.

[00:06:48] That's just bad politics, right?

[00:06:51] I mean, that's a way to lose support as the Democrats showed in this last election.

[00:06:56] So I don't – I think that is coming to an end on January 20th.

[00:07:01] I really do, and I think that's a great thing.

[00:07:03] And let's hope – let's pray that the new administration will follow through with that and not be pulled in to the D.C. thought of not telling people what they can't handle and trying to control that in the public.

[00:07:16] It's really damaging for our law enforcement like FBI, I think.

[00:07:20] I'll just say very quickly on this one, there have been a lot of reports in recent months about possible terrorist activity.

[00:07:27] And so U.S. officials have noticed a lot of chat on military and social media sites.

[00:07:36] And so they have issued warnings about this.

[00:07:40] And so perhaps they're trying to like – sort of the FBI was trying to kind of like cover their bases because of this.

[00:07:50] And I did hear that in New Orleans there were some barriers that had been placed in that area in 2017, and they were being – they were down because they were being repaired.

[00:08:00] And that throws egg in the face of the city because they should have had it up by the time of New Year's Eve, by the time there's going to be crowds there.

[00:08:08] Yeah, they were going to actually repair them so they're getting ready for the Super Bowl.

[00:08:12] But we had a sugar bowl there that got postponed.

[00:08:14] So a good point.

[00:08:16] Real quickly, I just might mention one of the best lines here is, is the FBI would do its best to try to avoid trust sapping 180-degree reversals like this.

[00:08:26] That should have been his least article because it's really the whole issue here.

[00:08:31] Every time you begin to cause people not trust you, it is a long time to get it back again.

[00:08:38] And that's what we see in that first article.

[00:08:40] More to talk about with terrorism.

[00:08:42] All that coming up right after this.

[00:08:58] This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson.

[00:09:04] More than three decades ago, I wrote and recorded a week of radio programs on the decline of a nation.

[00:09:08] One of the days, I focused on the decline of the family and quoted J.D. Unwin.

[00:09:13] I was encouraged to see that in a recent Breakpoint commentary, John Stonestreet quoted from this Oxford sociologist who published a book in the 1930s summarizing his research.

[00:09:23] In it, he described 80 tribes and six historical civilizations over the course of five millennia.

[00:09:29] His focus was on whether sexual restraint or sexual liberation was a positive factor in these civilizations.

[00:09:35] The pattern was repeated many times.

[00:09:38] Marriage and family may have varied, but usually was based on mutual consent and lifelong association.

[00:09:43] But decline came when marriage and commitment faded and sexual restraint was abandoned.

[00:09:49] He concluded that the whole of human history does not contain a single instance of a group becoming civilized unless it has been absolutely monogamous.

[00:09:58] Nor is there any example of a group retaining its culture after it has adopted less rigorous customs.

[00:10:03] Whether you're talking about sex or finances, a person who is able to delay gratification will be more successful.

[00:10:10] Sexual liberation becomes sexual anarchy and eventually social anarchy.

[00:10:14] We shouldn't be surprised that a sex-saturated society is in decline.

[00:10:17] J.D. Unwin looked at this merely from a practical perspective and even said he had no opinion about the rightness or wrongness of what he studied.

[00:10:24] But the Apostle Paul looked at the moral implications and warned us in Romans 1 about those who exchange the truth about God for a lie and worship and serve the creature rather than the creator.

[00:10:35] There is a price to pay for abandoning biblical principles about human sexuality.

[00:10:40] I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view.

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[00:11:04] Back once again, Ben and Dexter Kelly Shackelford.

[00:11:06] I thought for just a minute I put something on the table about this idea of terrorism because you go all the way back to a time when we had the FBI Director James Comey.

[00:11:15] Okay, we don't necessarily always say positive things about him, but when he was speaking a number of years ago to the National Association of Attorneys General,

[00:11:23] he was talking about how ISIS has this spider web of contacts.

[00:11:27] And some of that has gone away, but some of it has been rekindled.

[00:11:32] And he talked about this idea of lone wolves.

[00:11:34] He sometimes called them city wolves in which you would actually get homegrown jihadists.

[00:11:41] Isn't that at least what we're seeing with the one in New Orleans?

[00:11:45] Maybe not the one in Las Vegas.

[00:11:47] We'll find out more later.

[00:11:49] And, of course, he was also saying that this is a problem because, number one, we have an open border.

[00:11:54] I want to come back to that in just a minute.

[00:11:56] But he also reminded us that we have the returnees.

[00:11:58] Some of these individuals, primarily maybe Somalians in Minnesota and other places, actually are U.S. citizens, went and fought with ISIS.

[00:12:08] But because they're American citizens, came back.

[00:12:11] So you add to those, and then you have, as we were talking about earlier in the week with Alan West,

[00:12:19] now it's probably tens of thousands of people from, men from China who are military age.

[00:12:26] And as he said, you can't imagine Xi Jinping would allow these military age men to leave and not serve in the military.

[00:12:32] You begin to say between these returnees, open borders, and then the fact that some of these individuals are being radicalized either at the local mosque or through social media.

[00:12:46] We've got quite a bit for Kash Patel or whoever is the head of FBI to really address, don't you think?

[00:12:53] Yes.

[00:12:54] I read that this week is the week that Joe Biden is letting more detainees out of Guantanamo and repatriating them home.

[00:13:04] And then we have our open borders, as you said.

[00:13:07] And these two situations of terrorism, it doesn't look like they came in from the southern border.

[00:13:13] But the reality is that our law enforcement is stretched thin across the country for that reason because of illegals coming in.

[00:13:24] And also because ever since 2020, different parts of the country, especially blue areas, have been kind of attacking their police forces, defunding their police forces.

[00:13:37] And they're finding out now that that is not a good idea and they shouldn't be doing that.

[00:13:41] So you have that.

[00:13:42] You mentioned the lone wolves and they can come out of nowhere.

[00:13:46] You don't see much warning for what they're going to do.

[00:13:50] And so that makes it much more lethal.

[00:13:52] And the tactic that was used in New Orleans to just drive in in a truck, that's just one of the most surprising, jolting kinds of terrorism that you can have because you just don't expect it to happen.

[00:14:06] I thought it was very sad.

[00:14:07] I was reading the stories of some of the victims, some of the people that died in that.

[00:14:11] Me too.

[00:14:12] Every single one of them was in their 20s that I read about.

[00:14:16] I'll tell you, you know, one of the things that you don't see a lot of discussion about, but I think is connected to all this.

[00:14:22] And I think the New Orleans situation at this point is different from Las Vegas because.

[00:14:29] Yeah.

[00:14:29] Treat them separately.

[00:14:30] Yeah.

[00:14:30] Yeah.

[00:14:31] And but I think that, you know, we talk a lot about how Biden's weakness and what it caused in our respect internationally and definitely, you know, the Afghanistan and just so many mistakes internationally.

[00:14:46] But I think that that sort of lack of respect also leads to things internally.

[00:14:53] I mean, even things like let's remember what was happening.

[00:14:57] You know, you know, that Biden was was kind of not being as strong with Israel.

[00:15:03] And and, you know, then you have you have October 7th.

[00:15:08] Yes, we do.

[00:15:09] Right.

[00:15:09] Weakness.

[00:15:09] And of course, you know, the the weakening of Iran and their money under Trump and then Biden opening up all the cash flows again, which is a heavy part of what was behind October 7th.

[00:15:23] But even on our own campuses, I mean, we had on our own campuses, there are federal laws against discrimination with education.

[00:15:34] And the idea that they were allowing these terrorists connected groups who were using, you know, foolish college students along with them to persecute Jews.

[00:15:50] I mean, the government should have been all over that.

[00:15:52] And instead, they just let it go.

[00:15:54] And by that, I don't just mean the universities.

[00:15:56] I mean, the federal government.

[00:15:58] This is a violation of federal civil rights laws.

[00:16:01] And there were Jewish people who could not get to class when you do that.

[00:16:07] It excites people like ISIS and Hamas and these other terrorist groups.

[00:16:12] So I I think that's going to change as soon as Donald Trump's comes into office.

[00:16:18] I I I think that whole attitude and that sort of invitation will change.

[00:16:24] And I think it will lead to to what would have been more.

[00:16:28] However, on the other side, we've got all these people who have been let in that we don't know anything about them.

[00:16:36] We know that, like, there's no sense for tens of thousands of Chinese nationals of military age coming in.

[00:16:44] Twenty thousand or thirty thousand this year is the estimate.

[00:16:47] It's it's start adding all the other places.

[00:16:51] I mean, there's there are people here who, you know, are not here for good reasons.

[00:16:56] And so that might create some situations.

[00:16:58] But I do think a a Trump approach will lessen what it what it would be, because they're going to be tough on that stuff.

[00:17:08] And and there are going to be a number of these people that we're going to start deporting.

[00:17:12] And so so it's it's it's going to be I think that's part of why these things are happening, though, is because we've we've somewhat invited it by our weakness, which hopefully is going to change on January 20th.

[00:17:25] You mentioned the role of Hamas and then, you know, people reacting to the attack on Israel here in in the way that we wouldn't expect the wrong way.

[00:17:36] But also I think a huge piece of it is the withdrawal from Afghanistan, which really signified our weakness.

[00:17:43] And because we're not in Afghanistan, we aren't able to monitor ISIS there.

[00:17:49] So we've lost all of that.

[00:17:51] True.

[00:17:51] And ISIS then there's one expert that said 2024 was a breakout year for ISIS K, which has flourished in the U.S.

[00:18:01] since we departed from Afghanistan.

[00:18:02] Afghanistan. And this was the flag that in New Orleans was on his truck or just by the side of his truck after he was shot dead.

[00:18:12] And let's remember under Obama, ISIS was JV.

[00:18:16] Yes.

[00:18:17] Under Trump, he unleashed.

[00:18:19] They basically decimated ISIS.

[00:18:23] And then now here we are under Biden.

[00:18:25] And now we have these things coming back.

[00:18:28] So I again, I think that people don't think about, you know, they're mainly even even they voted for Trump.

[00:18:34] They didn't probably do it because of international.

[00:18:36] They did it because of, you know, inflation and the border and things like that.

[00:18:41] But I think it makes a big difference what we're doing internationally when it comes to terrorism.

[00:18:47] Well, when we elected George W. Bush, his issues, his campaign was on domestic issues.

[00:18:54] And boy, did he become an international foreign policy president.

[00:18:58] And, you know, Trump likes to not, you know, verbally at least take a side sometimes.

[00:19:04] And he may be forced to take the right side in various hot spots around the world.

[00:19:09] Talking about being tough.

[00:19:10] Do you think Tom Holman is going to do something?

[00:19:12] I watched an interview you did the other day in which he explained something I never thought about before.

[00:19:17] We have 2.2 million gotaways.

[00:19:20] But he explained that if you're a gotaway, you have to pay more to the cartel because they don't want to let you go at Eagle Pass or Laredo or wherever.

[00:19:31] They want to sneak you in.

[00:19:32] So you have to pay more.

[00:19:33] Then when you get here, you don't get free transportation.

[00:19:36] You don't get housing.

[00:19:38] You don't get free housing.

[00:19:39] You don't get three meals a day.

[00:19:40] So of those 2.2 million, I'm thinking a lot of those are individuals that don't want to be caught and are going out of their way not to be caught.

[00:19:51] And if you don't think that some of those individuals have some evil intentions, well, I think you've got to think again.

[00:19:58] So it just illustrates again what we're up against.

[00:20:01] And January 20th just can't come fast enough.

[00:20:05] Is that what you're thinking?

[00:20:06] Absolutely.

[00:20:07] Absolutely.

[00:20:08] We need – I mean it's all exacerbated by the fact that we've got a president who really – I mean every time he gets up and speaks, it just invites people to take advantage of weakness.

[00:20:21] And I mean even just the other day when he got up and spoke about the terrorist attack, he's just not really fit for office.

[00:20:29] I mean they said he wasn't fit to stand trial.

[00:20:31] They couldn't go after him criminally.

[00:20:32] This is his own federal prosecutors because he wasn't competent to stand trial.

[00:20:37] And yet he's the guy in there allegedly controlling things.

[00:20:42] And we just need to get to a real person who's running the government.

[00:20:46] We're going to look ahead for that because we do have some of the confirmation battles coming up.

[00:20:51] I have the short list of all the things even in the 11th hour that Joe Biden is doing.

[00:20:57] And that's in addition to the 1,500 different pardons and the 37 different commutations and all the rest.

[00:21:03] You won't believe this list.

[00:21:05] And then we'll get into some of the other things to look forward to.

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[00:23:10] And now, here again, is Kirby Anderson.

[00:23:13] Back once again, Pennedexter, Kelly Shackelford.

[00:23:15] Let me just mention in passing that one of the other articles we posted here, won't really talk about it too much, by Mark Lewis.

[00:23:21] Why do terrorists rarely hit China?

[00:23:24] And part of the reason, as Kelly was just alluding to, when you seem strong, then you probably are going to be less likely to get attacked.

[00:23:33] But here he has three reasons.

[00:23:34] One, China doesn't have the DEI stupidity.

[00:23:37] And I thought it was kind of interesting.

[00:23:40] I did not know this until I read this.

[00:23:42] The New Orleans police chief was an FBI instructor for bias in diversity.

[00:23:47] That city's branch of the FBI recently held a diversity recruitment event.

[00:23:52] And its ex-account posted a message about the FBI knows that diversity makes us strong.

[00:23:57] No, it doesn't.

[00:23:58] And I was on a program today earlier with American Family Radio.

[00:24:02] We got talking about DEI, which needs to D-I-E.

[00:24:05] But nevertheless, that was one of those.

[00:24:07] I guess New Orleans didn't get the memo that companies all over the country are ditching DEI.

[00:24:12] That's right.

[00:24:13] Second reason is China rarely has terrorist attacks is that terrorists know that China doesn't tolerate terrorism.

[00:24:20] That's, of course, the Uyghurs.

[00:24:22] And another one is China is a totalitarian state without freedom.

[00:24:25] You know, it is much easier to avoid a terrorist attack when you don't allow people very much freedom.

[00:24:32] Unfortunately, Pena, when you are allowing freedom, which we do and we're grateful for it,

[00:24:37] it is oftentimes exploited by terrorists or even by criminals.

[00:24:41] And if you have freedom, then you need to have a moral country with a moral core and a moral base.

[00:24:47] And the less of that you have, the more you have to have sort of a central, powerful government.

[00:24:52] That's the line that we have to walk here.

[00:24:54] And when we don't deal with that lack of morality and, you know, lack of standards,

[00:25:01] then we're very vulnerable to attack inside and out.

[00:25:05] And I feel like one of the things that's kind of encouraging about trends in the United States,

[00:25:10] because we don't usually say that about a lot of things,

[00:25:12] is there seems to be a spiritual move going across the country.

[00:25:18] There are a lot of these college campuses are breaking out with pretty big revivals.

[00:25:27] There's been a 22% increase in the purchase of Bibles.

[00:25:32] I've seen numerous stories where clearly, I mean, if you watch even the college football playoffs, right?

[00:25:39] I mean, it's amazing how many of these players now are really strong in their faith and speaking out.

[00:25:48] I mean, I know the Boise State, for instance, right?

[00:25:51] I thought you were going to talk about Boise State.

[00:25:52] Go ahead for that, yeah.

[00:25:53] The coach?

[00:25:54] The best running back, really, in the country.

[00:25:57] And he was baptized just two weeks ago, right?

[00:25:59] The coach spoke out.

[00:26:00] The Ohio State quarterback, the first thing he says after the victory is,

[00:26:05] I first want to start by thanking my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

[00:26:09] You used to see that in the old days, and you haven't recently.

[00:26:13] You're seeing it really across the board now.

[00:26:15] And I do think, like Penis says, I mean, this, and as our founder said,

[00:26:21] this country of freedom was meant for a moral and religious people.

[00:26:25] Right.

[00:26:25] And it doesn't work otherwise.

[00:26:27] And so to see that beginning to come back is a really good sign as well.

[00:26:34] And so that's something to be watching,

[00:26:36] something for everybody to be involved in some way in how the gospel

[00:26:40] and discipleship is really growing across the country.

[00:26:43] You know, in an administration that's marching towards soft totalitarianism,

[00:26:49] you do see, you know, people get lazy.

[00:26:52] They depend on the government.

[00:26:54] They, so some of the virtue that would have been built up just because of hard work,

[00:26:59] like you mentioned men and the crisis of men working isn't there.

[00:27:04] And so, you know, there's just so many trends that have been,

[00:27:08] I really feel like getting worse and worse since the 60s.

[00:27:12] And now I think we are coming to a reckoning and we're seeing how, you know,

[00:27:18] we have really been on the precipice, I think, of losing the type of constitutional government

[00:27:25] that we so cherish and so need and we've thrived with.

[00:27:29] And this election made so much, I mean, now we've got to take advantage of the election

[00:27:35] and what we accomplished, but it really is pivotal.

[00:27:39] I mean, you know, it could be very pivotal if we take some of the right steps.

[00:27:45] And I think today getting a speaker so that the Congress can move forward,

[00:27:50] perhaps with some good legislation right away, is a good step.

[00:27:54] I would, you know, people think about praying,

[00:27:56] and I don't know how many people are thinking about this,

[00:27:58] but I would highly encourage there ought to be a movement of intercessors on praying about.

[00:28:04] I mean, my little vision, think of the spiritual warfare that is behind what's about to happen.

[00:28:12] You've got entrenched, really, the deep state, the federal government, the Washington, D.C.

[00:28:22] I don't know what kind of demonic stronghold is there,

[00:28:24] but it's obviously pretty big because everybody gets eaten by it.

[00:28:29] And you've got a president coming in with a specific stated purpose to reform,

[00:28:36] to actually cut, I mean, things that haven't been done.

[00:28:41] I mean, we're looking at all this from the human standpoint,

[00:28:45] but if we had spiritual eyes and could see the spiritual battle that's about to occur,

[00:28:50] I think we would be sending all our prayers there

[00:28:53] because there's about to be a major, major war.

[00:28:58] And we really need to pray for the people.

[00:29:00] I mean, can you imagine if you go in there and you're in charge of some agency

[00:29:04] and you're trying to clean it up,

[00:29:05] and there are people trying to destroy you left and right in secret,

[00:29:10] and they've had years of practice and entrenchment and everything else.

[00:29:14] I mean, all these people who are going in trying to do good things,

[00:29:18] they get eaten up a lot.

[00:29:19] And we really need to pray for our country because what a great thing

[00:29:23] if we could move things back to the purposes of our government,

[00:29:29] the Judeo-Christian principles, the less government,

[00:29:32] more as Penn is talking about people doing things on their own

[00:29:36] and learning their own,

[00:29:38] working out their own understanding of living life

[00:29:41] and working and creating character and things like that

[00:29:44] versus sort of relying upon the government when it's unnecessary,

[00:29:48] which happens in so many situations.

[00:29:50] So there's going to be like a million battles going on,

[00:29:55] and it's kind of new and different,

[00:29:57] and it's something we don't usually think about praying about,

[00:29:59] but I think that's a great thing for the prayer list.

[00:30:01] I don't think so.

[00:30:03] You know, Penn was talking about the idea that this next generation

[00:30:06] maybe is a little bit different,

[00:30:07] and we talk about, you know, hard times create strong men,

[00:30:10] strong men create good times,

[00:30:11] good times create weak men,

[00:30:13] weak men create hard times,

[00:30:14] and we're kind of in what some people have called the fourth turning.

[00:30:18] Neil Howes talked about that in his book,

[00:30:20] The Fourth Turning is Here,

[00:30:21] and this is sort of the fourth turning generation,

[00:30:23] and you look at the revivals.

[00:30:24] Who would have thought about revival in Ashland College

[00:30:28] and Texas A&M and Boise State,

[00:30:31] and the list is really quite long of those,

[00:30:34] and I think there is something happening at the generational level,

[00:30:37] and then Kelly's talking about the other part of that,

[00:30:39] something happening at the spiritual level.

[00:30:41] So a great time to be alive.

[00:30:43] You know, we just lost Jimmy Carter,

[00:30:45] and it makes me think back to his presidency

[00:30:48] and how bad things were in the aftermath of his presidency,

[00:30:55] and so many bad trends were kind of spawned in the 60s

[00:30:59] and going on into the 80s,

[00:31:02] and then there was the Jesus Revolution that took place,

[00:31:06] which, you know, that was, I think,

[00:31:08] was that all about in book and movie?

[00:31:10] Did it come out this year?

[00:31:11] And, you know.

[00:31:12] Jesus Revolution.

[00:31:13] Yes, and, you know, it was young people, again,

[00:31:17] it was young people who saw, you know, despair,

[00:31:21] and many were in the drug culture,

[00:31:23] and so here we are again,

[00:31:25] and now it's the adults in the room

[00:31:27] who are spawning the drug culture,

[00:31:28] trying to make money off it.

[00:31:30] So, you know, we have similar problems,

[00:31:33] and a lot of them are even a lot worse now,

[00:31:36] and now, you know, I don't think Trump is Reagan.

[00:31:40] They're very different,

[00:31:41] but they are refreshing, both of them,

[00:31:44] and they could bring a lot of good.

[00:31:47] I mean, I just think of these dramatic things

[00:31:49] that are being talked about,

[00:31:51] and the question is, can they make progress?

[00:31:54] I mean, you know, there are a lot of people

[00:31:57] making a lot of money off of things

[00:31:59] that are not good for people.

[00:32:01] Right.

[00:32:02] And I'm not talking about...

[00:32:03] Like transgender surgeries.

[00:32:04] Yeah, or, I mean, let's go even simple,

[00:32:07] our food.

[00:32:08] Yeah.

[00:32:08] You know, medicine, Big Pharma,

[00:32:11] all them, look, Big Pharma does great things

[00:32:13] in coming up with new medicines,

[00:32:15] but when you have, like, a monopoly

[00:32:18] and you control everything,

[00:32:19] you also will do things for your own benefit

[00:32:21] that are not good for people.

[00:32:24] And like we're talking about,

[00:32:26] more transparency.

[00:32:28] You know, I think, you know,

[00:32:29] the reason that there's all kinds of things

[00:32:31] going on about what the COVID vaccine is doing

[00:32:34] is because there's no open transparency

[00:32:36] about, really, why don't we see testing?

[00:32:39] And there's lots of people that had the vaccine

[00:32:41] and people who didn't.

[00:32:42] Why aren't we running?

[00:32:44] Why aren't we seeing lots of things come out on this?

[00:32:46] I think there's a lot of great things

[00:32:48] that can happen that really will save lives,

[00:32:52] will make people healthier,

[00:32:54] will give them more money in their pocket,

[00:32:56] all these things,

[00:32:58] if they're not crushed by these forces.

[00:33:02] And so it's going to be a really interesting time

[00:33:05] that can really bless a lot of people

[00:33:08] in a lot of different ways.

[00:33:09] That should encourage you,

[00:33:11] and if nothing else, encourage you to pray.

[00:33:14] And this is some comment I thought I might make

[00:33:17] as we go to the break.

[00:33:18] We do have a Pray for America button,

[00:33:20] and I just looked at the Pray for America piece

[00:33:23] that's going out,

[00:33:23] and actually it's very similar

[00:33:25] to some of the things we've just talked about.

[00:33:26] So if you're not on that mailing list,

[00:33:29] we encourage you to be on, of course,

[00:33:30] the First Liberty Insider list,

[00:33:32] and, of course, our list,

[00:33:33] and even to get the commentaries,

[00:33:35] but there's also the Pray for America list,

[00:33:37] and we send that out once a week,

[00:33:38] and I think we've identified

[00:33:40] some really good prayer targets.

[00:33:41] Let's take a break.

[00:33:42] We'll come back with one more segment

[00:33:44] right after this.

[00:33:55] On Christmas Day,

[00:33:57] as I rushed to set my dining room table,

[00:33:59] I felt a strange sense of gratitude

[00:34:01] for the table and for the dining room.

[00:34:03] More and more Americans don't have them,

[00:34:06] and in my opinion,

[00:34:07] they're missing something special.

[00:34:08] In an article for The Atlantic,

[00:34:10] city planner M. Nolan Gray

[00:34:12] wrote of the disappearing dining room,

[00:34:14] Americans now tend to eat in spaces

[00:34:16] that double as kitchens or living rooms,

[00:34:18] a small price to pay

[00:34:20] for making the most of their square footage.

[00:34:22] He points to housing scarcity and regulation

[00:34:25] as reasons many new apartments

[00:34:27] lack even a space to put a table and chairs.

[00:34:30] Residents are eating on their couches

[00:34:32] or in their bedrooms,

[00:34:33] and hosting a meal has become

[00:34:34] virtually impossible.

[00:34:36] The unfortunate result,

[00:34:37] says Mr. Gray,

[00:34:38] is that we're designing loneliness

[00:34:40] into American floor plans.

[00:34:42] For his article,

[00:34:43] Mr. Gray spoke with real estate developer

[00:34:45] and floor plan expert,

[00:34:47] Bobby Fugion,

[00:34:48] who told him,

[00:34:49] the reason the dining room is disappearing

[00:34:51] is that we are allocating

[00:34:52] our limited space

[00:34:53] to bedrooms and walk-in closets.

[00:34:56] Consumer preference,

[00:34:57] lack of housing supply,

[00:34:58] and certainly zoning codes

[00:35:00] are all behind

[00:35:01] what Mr. Gray describes

[00:35:02] as the death of dining space.

[00:35:04] So is demographics.

[00:35:06] Shrinking household size

[00:35:07] is a huge factor.

[00:35:09] Lower marriage rates

[00:35:10] and lower birth rates

[00:35:11] mean fewer people

[00:35:12] are living together in families.

[00:35:14] Mr. Gray cites U.S. Census figures

[00:35:16] showing that the share

[00:35:17] of one-person households

[00:35:19] more than tripled

[00:35:20] from 1940 to 2020.

[00:35:22] Of necessity or,

[00:35:23] by choice,

[00:35:24] people are more isolated

[00:35:26] and often lonelier.

[00:35:27] M. Nolan Gray,

[00:35:29] the urban planner,

[00:35:30] wants to know,

[00:35:30] how many more dinners

[00:35:31] would be shared

[00:35:32] if we had the space

[00:35:33] to host guests?

[00:35:35] Do you live alone?

[00:35:36] Invite someone in for dinner.

[00:35:38] No dining table?

[00:35:39] No kitchen table?

[00:35:40] Use the coffee table?

[00:35:41] An end table?

[00:35:42] Or even an electrical spool

[00:35:44] with a cloth over it?

[00:35:46] Voila!

[00:35:46] You have a dining room.

[00:35:48] For Point of View,

[00:35:49] I'm Penna Dexter.

[00:35:55] You're listening to

[00:35:56] Point of View,

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[00:35:59] source for truth.

[00:36:00] Okay, you've heard

[00:36:01] us say it a few times.

[00:36:02] Might as well say it

[00:36:02] one more time.

[00:36:03] Can't wait for January 20th

[00:36:05] to come fast enough.

[00:36:07] Around the table,

[00:36:08] I'm sure Penna remembers this,

[00:36:09] I'm sure Kelly

[00:36:10] probably does as well

[00:36:11] when the staffers

[00:36:12] for Bill Clinton,

[00:36:13] when they left

[00:36:14] the White House,

[00:36:15] they took the W's

[00:36:15] off the White House keyboard

[00:36:16] and trashed out some things.

[00:36:18] But this is worse

[00:36:20] because, first of all,

[00:36:21] we've talked about

[00:36:22] how Joe Biden

[00:36:23] has issued

[00:36:23] all the pardons,

[00:36:25] 37 different commutations

[00:36:27] of people on death row,

[00:36:29] but now is trying

[00:36:31] to push through

[00:36:32] a difficult-to-resend

[00:36:33] ban on new oil

[00:36:34] and gas drilling

[00:36:35] in large sections

[00:36:36] of the Atlantic

[00:36:37] and Pacific Oceans,

[00:36:39] enacted some last-minute

[00:36:41] changes to the H-1B

[00:36:42] and H-2 visa programs,

[00:36:45] which we've already

[00:36:46] been talking about

[00:36:46] a little bit this week,

[00:36:48] locked in the hybrid

[00:36:49] work protections

[00:36:50] for tens of thousands

[00:36:51] of staffers

[00:36:52] at the Social Security

[00:36:54] Administration,

[00:36:55] set a new Paris

[00:36:56] Climate Agreement goal,

[00:36:58] and attempted to

[00:36:59] hinder efforts

[00:37:00] to increase U.S. exports

[00:37:01] of liquid natural gas.

[00:37:04] And the list goes on

[00:37:06] and on and on.

[00:37:07] Penna?

[00:37:07] And didn't he nix

[00:37:08] the steel merger?

[00:37:11] And finally,

[00:37:12] he's been threatening

[00:37:12] to do that.

[00:37:13] Yes.

[00:37:13] He's going to try

[00:37:14] to do as much damage

[00:37:15] as he can

[00:37:16] in this lame duck period,

[00:37:17] and that's another reason

[00:37:20] because I think

[00:37:21] there's going to be

[00:37:22] so many demands

[00:37:23] upon the new White House

[00:37:24] and the new Congress

[00:37:25] to get some change going,

[00:37:28] and they're trying

[00:37:29] to hamstring us

[00:37:30] at every turn.

[00:37:31] You know,

[00:37:32] I really think,

[00:37:33] I mean...

[00:37:33] This may be the worst

[00:37:34] presidency in modern times.

[00:37:36] Is that fair?

[00:37:36] Sure.

[00:37:36] Definitely.

[00:37:37] Yeah.

[00:37:38] But, you know,

[00:37:39] I just...

[00:37:39] I mean,

[00:37:40] unless there's a major revival

[00:37:42] and people get their character...

[00:37:44] People with character

[00:37:45] come back again,

[00:37:47] we need a constitutional amendment

[00:37:50] that in this lame duck period,

[00:37:52] we used to...

[00:37:53] Just because people

[00:37:54] were decent enough,

[00:37:55] they didn't do

[00:37:56] this type of stuff.

[00:37:57] Right.

[00:37:58] And now,

[00:37:59] it's like,

[00:38:00] it's just a flaunt

[00:38:01] in the face

[00:38:02] of the American people.

[00:38:04] They just voted

[00:38:05] for someone other than you.

[00:38:07] And so you decide

[00:38:08] you're going to take

[00:38:09] everything you can

[00:38:10] and try to force things

[00:38:11] that the American people

[00:38:13] didn't vote for.

[00:38:15] Again,

[00:38:15] we used to have

[00:38:16] the decency

[00:38:17] where people would

[00:38:18] restrain themselves.

[00:38:19] Right.

[00:38:19] They don't anymore.

[00:38:20] And so I really feel

[00:38:21] like we need to

[00:38:22] go in and, like,

[00:38:23] put a limit on...

[00:38:24] The president can basically

[00:38:25] do nothing of import

[00:38:26] absent, you know,

[00:38:28] the Congress

[00:38:28] making it...

[00:38:30] Defining it

[00:38:30] as a national emergency

[00:38:32] by, like,

[00:38:33] some large number

[00:38:34] because what he's doing

[00:38:36] is really...

[00:38:37] I mean,

[00:38:37] it affects foreign policy.

[00:38:39] It's affecting our economy.

[00:38:40] It's affecting

[00:38:42] energy production.

[00:38:43] Everything that

[00:38:44] the people don't want

[00:38:45] these things

[00:38:46] that he's doing.

[00:38:47] But he's doing it

[00:38:48] because, hey,

[00:38:49] nobody can stop me

[00:38:50] and I've got,

[00:38:50] you know,

[00:38:51] a few days left

[00:38:51] before the new

[00:38:52] president comes in.

[00:38:53] I think it's horrible.

[00:38:55] So does that

[00:38:55] give opportunity

[00:38:57] for states

[00:38:58] to sue

[00:38:59] the federal government?

[00:39:00] Will there be

[00:39:01] a lot of lawsuits

[00:39:02] here at the end

[00:39:02] of the year

[00:39:03] or the beginning

[00:39:03] of 2025

[00:39:05] to stop some

[00:39:06] of this stuff

[00:39:07] that's been done?

[00:39:08] They could.

[00:39:09] They could try.

[00:39:10] Ken Paxton

[00:39:11] would be first

[00:39:12] on the limits

[00:39:13] because he's probably

[00:39:14] got the record number.

[00:39:16] Texas has a bigger

[00:39:17] attorney general's office

[00:39:18] and more money

[00:39:20] got a lot

[00:39:20] of these lawsuits

[00:39:21] that they've been

[00:39:22] very successful

[00:39:22] including the border

[00:39:24] materials.

[00:39:24] Right.

[00:39:25] They stopped Biden

[00:39:25] from selling any more

[00:39:26] of those border

[00:39:27] materials off

[00:39:28] which is ridiculous.

[00:39:29] We announced that

[00:39:29] earlier in the week.

[00:39:29] Yeah.

[00:39:30] So, yeah,

[00:39:31] it's really,

[00:39:32] I just,

[00:39:33] you know,

[00:39:33] it tells us something

[00:39:35] about our character

[00:39:36] of our people

[00:39:37] that we've got leaders

[00:39:39] like this

[00:39:39] who would do

[00:39:40] this type of thing.

[00:39:42] This didn't used

[00:39:42] to be a problem.

[00:39:43] No, it didn't

[00:39:44] used to be.

[00:39:44] And it is now.

[00:39:46] And so,

[00:39:46] you have to create laws

[00:39:48] when people's character

[00:39:49] doesn't restrain them

[00:39:50] like it should.

[00:39:51] And I don't know,

[00:39:52] we might have to do that

[00:39:53] because this is really

[00:39:54] dangerous when you

[00:39:55] have a president

[00:39:56] that just is going

[00:39:56] to do whatever

[00:39:57] they want

[00:39:58] because they didn't

[00:39:59] get reelected.

[00:39:59] Well, we have a Senate

[00:40:01] that has been confirmed.

[00:40:02] We have one Republican

[00:40:02] not actually there.

[00:40:04] So now you could

[00:40:05] begin to look at these

[00:40:06] various confirmation battles.

[00:40:08] One of the articles

[00:40:09] here talks about

[00:40:10] Tulsi Gabbard,

[00:40:11] Pete Hegseth,

[00:40:13] Kash Patel as five.

[00:40:15] I'll just pick those three.

[00:40:16] Although Robert F. Kennedy,

[00:40:17] I guess we should pick

[00:40:17] at least four of the five.

[00:40:18] And I'd love to go

[00:40:19] around the round table.

[00:40:20] Maybe, Penna,

[00:40:20] you can give us

[00:40:21] some thoughts

[00:40:22] and Kelly can as well

[00:40:23] because there are

[00:40:25] a lot of these

[00:40:25] confirmation battles

[00:40:26] that are going to be

[00:40:27] pro forma,

[00:40:28] I would think.

[00:40:29] A perfunctory.

[00:40:30] Not necessarily

[00:40:31] even a big controversy.

[00:40:33] But there are

[00:40:33] going to be a few

[00:40:34] and these four or five

[00:40:36] are ones that

[00:40:37] we're going to be

[00:40:38] watching, aren't they?

[00:40:41] And I think some of the ones

[00:40:43] that looked like

[00:40:44] they were in trouble,

[00:40:44] like Pete Hegseth,

[00:40:46] is now,

[00:40:47] he's worked hard

[00:40:48] to get his own persona out

[00:40:51] and, you know,

[00:40:52] some of his history

[00:40:53] thinks he has accomplished

[00:40:55] and done.

[00:40:56] And so,

[00:40:58] I think he has

[00:40:58] a better chance

[00:40:59] than we probably thought

[00:41:00] maybe even a month ago.

[00:41:01] And then Robert F. Kennedy,

[00:41:03] well, Republicans

[00:41:04] are starting to sort of

[00:41:06] embrace parts

[00:41:07] of his candidacy.

[00:41:08] And so,

[00:41:09] I'm not as skeptical

[00:41:11] about him either.

[00:41:12] I think he may be

[00:41:14] confirmed.

[00:41:14] I don't know enough

[00:41:16] about Tulsi Gabbard.

[00:41:17] I really don't.

[00:41:18] You know,

[00:41:19] I look at her,

[00:41:19] I love listening

[00:41:20] to her speak sometimes.

[00:41:22] Sometimes she stands

[00:41:23] on sides of foreign policy,

[00:41:25] especially,

[00:41:25] that I don't agree with.

[00:41:27] So,

[00:41:27] and I think that

[00:41:28] she is going to experience

[00:41:29] some,

[00:41:30] this article says this too,

[00:41:31] she's going to experience

[00:41:32] the most questioning

[00:41:33] and pushback

[00:41:35] and trouble

[00:41:35] and I don't know

[00:41:36] if she'll make it.

[00:41:37] Yeah,

[00:41:38] I feel like the Hegseth,

[00:41:41] I just don't under,

[00:41:43] I don't see anything

[00:41:44] against him.

[00:41:45] I mean,

[00:41:45] really what,

[00:41:45] let's be honest,

[00:41:46] what's against him is

[00:41:47] he's not part of

[00:41:49] the military industrial

[00:41:50] complex.

[00:41:51] He's not from that world,

[00:41:53] the establishment.

[00:41:55] He's just a guy

[00:41:56] that got a couple

[00:41:56] of bronze stars,

[00:41:57] served our country

[00:41:58] and you know,

[00:41:59] what were they coming at?

[00:42:00] Well,

[00:42:00] he's also an Ivy League

[00:42:01] educated media

[00:42:04] expert too.

[00:42:05] And he worked at Fox

[00:42:06] so,

[00:42:07] oh,

[00:42:07] you can't allow that.

[00:42:09] What they've been

[00:42:10] attacking him for

[00:42:11] at the beginning,

[00:42:12] I've kind of heard

[00:42:12] this go away,

[00:42:13] is that,

[00:42:14] you know,

[00:42:14] like he was a womanizer

[00:42:16] and he drank too much.

[00:42:19] So,

[00:42:19] let me get this straight,

[00:42:20] somebody who was

[00:42:20] like a war hero

[00:42:22] comes back

[00:42:23] and is drinking too much

[00:42:25] and is a womanizer.

[00:42:26] Shocking.

[00:42:27] Okay,

[00:42:28] give me a break,

[00:42:29] right?

[00:42:30] And then he had

[00:42:31] a conversion

[00:42:32] and a commitment

[00:42:33] of his life

[00:42:34] to Christ

[00:42:34] in a whole new way

[00:42:36] and none of those

[00:42:37] problems have ever

[00:42:38] been even alleged

[00:42:39] since then.

[00:42:41] So,

[00:42:41] I think he was really,

[00:42:43] I mean,

[00:42:43] they were coming up

[00:42:44] with what they could

[00:42:45] but I don't think

[00:42:45] they have anything

[00:42:46] on Pete Hedzip

[00:42:47] and I think

[00:42:48] he's going to be fine.

[00:42:50] I think Cash Patel

[00:42:51] too,

[00:42:51] his background

[00:42:52] is so impressive.

[00:42:53] I mean,

[00:42:54] he's got,

[00:42:55] you just don't have

[00:42:55] anybody that has

[00:42:56] the variety of,

[00:42:58] you know,

[00:42:59] attorney worked

[00:43:01] in the Congress

[00:43:03] on these issues,

[00:43:04] you know,

[00:43:05] for Devin Nunes

[00:43:07] and including

[00:43:08] at a really significant

[00:43:09] time

[00:43:10] when there was

[00:43:11] high controversy

[00:43:12] going on,

[00:43:12] saw the misuse

[00:43:13] of government.

[00:43:14] I mean,

[00:43:15] just the different

[00:43:16] aspects that he has

[00:43:18] make him really,

[00:43:19] I think,

[00:43:19] a good candidate

[00:43:20] for this.

[00:43:22] So,

[00:43:22] I agree with Penn.

[00:43:23] I think the,

[00:43:24] and RFK is certainly

[00:43:25] going to be very fascinating

[00:43:27] because he's,

[00:43:28] I'm sure he said

[00:43:29] lots of things

[00:43:29] that he might not

[00:43:30] even agree with himself

[00:43:31] now,

[00:43:33] but I think he's

[00:43:33] going to promise

[00:43:34] to do,

[00:43:36] you know,

[00:43:36] to basically,

[00:43:37] let's just have

[00:43:38] this stuff looked at.

[00:43:39] I'm not going to,

[00:43:40] I don't want to force

[00:43:40] anybody to do anything.

[00:43:41] I just want to give

[00:43:41] them information.

[00:43:42] I think that's going

[00:43:43] to be his approach

[00:43:44] and I think he'll get

[00:43:45] through.

[00:43:45] And Tulsi Gabbard

[00:43:46] is I think the one

[00:43:47] who's,

[00:43:47] who's,

[00:43:48] will be the most

[00:43:49] interesting because

[00:43:49] I think more

[00:43:50] will come out there

[00:43:51] that most of us

[00:43:53] aren't aware of.

[00:43:54] If RFK is confirmed,

[00:43:56] we have to hold

[00:43:56] his feet to the fire

[00:43:57] on abortion

[00:43:58] and the sanctity

[00:43:59] of human life.

[00:44:00] And Kash Patel,

[00:44:01] I understand that

[00:44:02] when he's gone in

[00:44:03] and spoken to lawmakers,

[00:44:05] many have come back

[00:44:06] very impressed with him.

[00:44:08] And so,

[00:44:09] you know,

[00:44:10] he's kind of,

[00:44:10] he and Pete Hegseth

[00:44:12] both are,

[00:44:13] you know,

[00:44:13] they're doing the work

[00:44:14] that needs to be done

[00:44:15] to convince people

[00:44:16] to vote for them

[00:44:17] or to support them.

[00:44:19] So,

[00:44:19] you know,

[00:44:20] I do think a president

[00:44:21] deserves his nominees,

[00:44:22] but I don't think

[00:44:23] that you,

[00:44:24] that we need to be careful

[00:44:25] if there's someone

[00:44:26] among these people

[00:44:27] that is going to cause us

[00:44:29] to make maybe

[00:44:31] some dangerous moves

[00:44:32] in the country.

[00:44:33] So we'll see

[00:44:33] how that unfolds

[00:44:34] and it looks like

[00:44:35] we now have

[00:44:36] Speaker of the House

[00:44:36] and so pretty soon

[00:44:37] everybody will be

[00:44:39] swearing in

[00:44:40] in the House of Representatives

[00:44:41] already happened

[00:44:42] in the Senate,

[00:44:43] so hit the ground

[00:44:44] running on Monday,

[00:44:45] right?

[00:44:45] So,

[00:44:46] very good.

[00:44:46] Thank you both

[00:44:47] for coming twice this week.

[00:44:49] It's great to see both of you

[00:44:50] and let me also mention

[00:44:52] that we appreciate

[00:44:53] Doug coming in again

[00:44:54] and engineering the program.

[00:44:56] Thank you for helping out

[00:44:57] while our producer is away,

[00:44:58] which means the producer today

[00:44:59] is Megan.

[00:45:00] So,

[00:45:01] enjoy the weekend.

[00:45:02] There'll be some other

[00:45:04] professional football games

[00:45:06] to watch,

[00:45:06] but we will see you back here

[00:45:07] on Monday

[00:45:08] right here

[00:45:08] on Point of View.

[00:45:10] It almost seems like

[00:45:12] we live in a different world

[00:45:13] from many people

[00:45:14] in positions of authority.

[00:45:16] They say men can be women

[00:45:18] and women men.

[00:45:19] People are prosecuted

[00:45:21] differently

[00:45:21] or not at all

[00:45:23] depending on their politics.

[00:45:25] Criminals are more valued

[00:45:26] and rewarded

[00:45:27] than law-abiding citizens.

[00:45:29] It's so overwhelming,

[00:45:31] so demoralizing.

[00:45:33] You feel like giving up,

[00:45:34] but we can't.

[00:45:36] We shouldn't.

[00:45:36] We must not.

[00:45:38] As Winston Churchill

[00:45:39] said to Britain

[00:45:40] in the darkest days

[00:45:41] of World War II,

[00:45:42] never give in.

[00:45:44] Never give in.

[00:45:45] Never,

[00:45:45] never,

[00:45:46] never.

[00:45:46] Never yield to force.

[00:45:48] Never yield to the apparently

[00:45:50] overwhelming might

[00:45:51] of the enemy.

[00:45:53] And that's what we say

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[00:46:08] the darkness.

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