Point of View January 27, 2025 – Hour 2 : International Holocaust Remembrance Day

[00:00:04] Across America, Live, this is Point of View, Kirby Anderson. Second in order today, let's get back into some of the issues in the news. It is hard to believe, but it was just this time last week that we had a new President of the United States.

[00:00:29] And as we've warned you before, or prepared you for, however you want to look at that, he wanted to hit the ground running and has indeed done so. We have of course now confirmations for the Secretary of Defense and Secretary of Homeland Security and a variety of others. I think very quickly we're going to have the Secretary of Treasury and a variety of others confirmed. We'll see how those unfold over the next couple of weeks.

[00:00:55] But I think we are starting to see that indeed what was predicted and what was promised is coming to fruition. Which is why I decided to pull this particular article. It is our first, I guess it's actually our second article by Rich Lowry. And that is, this is what democracy looks like. Now Rich Lowry isn't necessarily pro-Trump in a lot of ways. As a matter of fact, if you read through by the time you get to about the second page,

[00:01:23] you can see some of the concerns he has with, of course, the personality of Donald Trump and even some of his actions. But he, I think, is writing this to maybe some of the Democrats who, as he said, were campaigning against Donald Trump as a threat to democracy. And that in some respects, while they were campaigning against him and saying that he was a threat to democracy,

[00:01:48] he was, and this is Rich Lowry saying it, no fan necessarily of Donald Trump, was building a democratic mandate to govern. He says the hallmark of President Trump's initial days back in office have been that he's been doing exactly what he said he would do. You've heard the old phrase, promises made, promises kept. And his cabinet picks, and again, Rich Lowry has to put this in here, his cabinet picks, for better or sometimes worse,

[00:02:17] because you can see he probably didn't like all of them, reflect the kind of people who are around him in the campaign, and his priorities have, by and large, been the ones he campaigned on clearly and consistently. You're going to hear over the next couple of weeks, people starting to take a shot on the president. And again, that is the case. I'll get to you a little bit later. A pretty contentious interview between CBS's Margaret Brennan and the Vice President J.D. Vance. She's allowed to ask tough questions.

[00:02:47] Frankly, she's allowed, since it's her program, to ask even unfair questions. But he's also right to come back and criticize her or maybe reformat the question. And the point is, is that if somebody says, this caught me off guard, well, you weren't paying attention. We said this years ago when Barack Obama was elected. People were saying, I didn't know Barack Obama was going to do that.

[00:03:12] And I said, you have to go back to the website and some of the campaign promises to know that's exactly what Barack Obama said he was going to do. You shouldn't be surprised. OK, I think it's fair to say that I voted for somebody might say Joe Biden. But I didn't know he was going to be so radical in some of his statements.

[00:03:33] But even on this program, we pointed out that he had sort of made his peace with a variety of people like Bernie Sanders and AOC. And so we expected some of this more so with Donald Trump. And that is the case. So, again, Rich Lowry says, look, by and large, the priorities he campaigned on are the ones that he indeed has implemented. One of the examples that he uses is this.

[00:04:00] No one can say they are surprised that Trump has dealt a hammer blow to DEI, move quickly to secure the border and begin large, large scale deportations, even rolling back some of the green energy mandates or pardoning the January six rioters, among other things. DEI a good example.

[00:04:21] And I think even on our Friday weekend edition might have actually given Jeff mature a little better understanding of how significant those DEI rollbacks were. He all of a sudden I could see the light go on saying, wait a minute, that's going to even affect some of the individuals we've been defending in the court. Yes, Jeff, this is more significant than I think even the mainstream media understands. Large scale deportations. Well, that's going to be a hot topic.

[00:04:51] It'll be a future topic for sure for those of you that receive our Outlook magazine. But again, one of the things Rich Lowry does is go back to some of the criticism of Donald Trump that came from Democrats and from opponents. Because he said one of the accusations against Trump in his campaign was that he pledged to be a dictator beginning on day one. Even Rich Lowry said, now, come on, this was always a witless smear.

[00:05:19] Trump joked about not being a dictator except on day one, referring to his planned barrage of executive orders. How many did we have on Monday? I think 200. I forgot. The count's gotten out of hand now. And then on here we are day one through six. And he hasn't established a dictatorship. He has issued a lot of executive orders. And I posted, of course, the piece by George Will on Friday that went into that in some detail.

[00:05:44] And he says that on the other side of the ledger, again, Rich Lowry, thank you for being honest. Democrats displayed, he says, a contempt for the voters and the democratic process. Because, first of all, the conspiracy to try to reelect Joe Biden after attempting to hide his marked decline from the public.

[00:06:02] And then having a small group of elite aides try to call the shots, get Joe Biden to step down, swap him out for Kamala Harris, was a wholly, again, Rich Lowry says, undemocratic in spirit. And, of course, by the first debate we saw what was taking place. Now he goes on to give some of the criticism.

[00:06:26] He talks about Trump's MO method of operation, mode of operation, however you want to say it, are troubling. And sometimes he over-personalizes the view of government and maybe isn't always appreciative of all of the constraints of the constitutional system. Points out that that's why we have checks and balances, why we have a Senate and a variety of others. And then goes on to be critical of Trump for trying to save TikTok by rewriting the TikTok ban.

[00:06:54] So you can go into the rest of that in which, of course, as you might imagine, he was critical of some of the actions already by Donald Trump. But the point he's making is a really good point. This is what democracy looks like. I would hope that this would be a pattern for future candidates, whoever they might be, Republican or Democrat, saying, this is what I'm going to do, and then to go out and to do it.

[00:07:20] And there's been, unfortunately, too many people in the past, you could probably come to kind of have various individuals come to mind, who said one thing and did quite another. And I think it is clear that if you are going to represent Donald Trump as a threat to democracy, you can't say that he didn't tell you he was going to do these things. Whether you like what he did or not is, of course, another conversation, which we'll talk about after the break.

[00:07:51] But he did tell you on many of these things that he was going to do that. And there's really no surprise. What's so interesting is oftentimes instead of taking seriously what he posted on the various campaign website, Democrats tried to deflect that by pointing out some of the things that were on the Heritage website and saying this is what he was going to do. There was an overlap.

[00:08:17] But there were some things on the Heritage website that Donald Trump did not and was not going to do. You certainly, if you spent any time at all looking at the website of Kamala Harris and the website of Donald Trump, have a pretty good idea what those first 100 days would look like. And I think, to be fair, that's what Donald Trump said he was going to do. And so far, over these last now almost seven days, that's what he's done. We'll be right back.

[00:08:58] This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson. Charles Cook recently asked, are Californians nearing the tipping point? He asked that question because of the reaction from many in Southern California to how politicians handled the devastating wildfires. He begins by saying that he loves California and explains that he isn't just saying that because he's about to criticize many of the political leaders in California. He devotes many sentences to list the many positives about the state and its citizens.

[00:09:26] He then focuses on how California is badly run. He also says that this isn't just because he disagrees politically with California politicians. He explains he doesn't agree with the politics of Massachusetts, but he acknowledges that Massachusetts is pretty solidly governed. With those two disclaimers out of the way, he concentrates on what California does poorly.

[00:09:46] The state is run by people who are incompetent at the task of taxing and spending, passing and enforcing laws, representing their constituents, and dealing with emergencies. Put another way, its politicians have forgotten how to do the basics. One can get away with a great deal of ideology, wastefulness, and self-indulgence. If the schools are good, the roads are smooth, the police are allowed to do their jobs, the housing is affordable, and the natural disasters are addressed swiftly and sanely.

[00:10:14] Charles Cook isn't the only person wondering if California voters are at a tipping point. Of course, it is too early to tell if a disaster in 2025 will affect an election in 2026 or 2028, but we have seen how a poor performance in a presidential debate last year changed everything in the 2024 elections. I predict that a big issue in future elections will be competence. Voters might be willing to get rid of incompetent politicians. I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view.

[00:10:46] For a free booklet on a biblical view of anti-Semitism, go to viewpoints.info slash antisemitism. Viewpoints.info slash antisemitism. You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. Back once again, let's talk about executive orders for just a minute. You know, trying to get an accurate number on how many executive orders have been signed is a bit difficult.

[00:11:11] I've gone out to a couple different websites, and I'm sure before the dust finally settles, we'll have an accurate number. And I think it would probably be fair to say that this president has signed more executive orders than anybody else in the time, in a short amount of time. I have seen some comparisons to the number of executive orders signed throughout their presidency. And Donald Trump, again, probably fewer than some of the other individuals.

[00:11:41] But nevertheless, you've heard us already talk about the fact that executive orders are supposed to be kind of internal documents, not necessarily policy initiatives. This was started a little bit by Bill Clinton, but really accentuated under Barack Obama and has continued since that time. And I think there is a real problem. But let me talk about a couple of executive orders. And the first one, which we posted here, and it's actually our first article,

[00:12:11] about the number of federal workers who are really upset about this executive order. Matt Vespa puts it this way. It's a circus, but it's so much fun to watch. Not long after being sworn as the 47th president of the United States, Donald Trump signed an executive order. Are you ready for this? Mandating all federal workers return to office. He says, the reactions are gold.

[00:12:38] Some are considering quitting over being forced to come into the office. If you start looking at social media, I don't recommend it for the faint-hearted, but if you do, you will see complaints about some of these federal workers saying, I'm concerned about child care. How am I going to do daycare? And all the rest. And Matt Vespa, you know, picking a reference to a film. Welcome to the party, pal.

[00:13:07] Because he asks, don't you think working families don't go through the same hurdles? And he's very concerned that some of these individuals that have been there for so long and were able to work from home because of the pandemic, and I always thought some of that was really sort of wrong-headed. Nevertheless, is the case. One EPA appointment says, we're already done with version 2.0.

[00:13:34] Trump, within hours of returning to power, issued a slew of executive orders seeking to overhaul how the federal government operates from removing job protections, tending remote work, to implementing a hiring freeze. The reception inside the federal government has been uneasy. There's a better word for that, but we'll use the easy one. But especially worse than for some employees was the decision to eliminate some of these other programs. And, of course, we can get into that in some detail.

[00:13:59] But you can imagine, even in your own company, if you have been used to for quite a number of years working from home, all of a sudden being told that you have to go back to work and actually go to the office, the difficulty with all of that. And I will not betray a confidence, but I've had some experts in this studio who have worked with people in the federal government

[00:14:26] that have told me incredible stories about the fact that they come into one of these particular areas in the federal government, and every time they've come in, they've met a guy at this one desk, and they say, every time I've been here, nobody's over in that other desk. And he says, yeah, that's whatever, Joe. And, gosh, we haven't seen him in a long time, and we don't know if he's still working here or not. And you can't imagine that happening at a place like Amazon or Federal Express or anything like that.

[00:14:56] But one individual told me about there was an individual that claimed that actually he was working undercover with the CIA. I think he was in Homeland Security or something like that. And so that was a justification for him traveling and running up such expenses. And it turned out he was not working for the CIA. He was just wanting to use the freedom that the government has provided to him to actually travel around the world.

[00:15:25] So do we mean that all federal workers are like that? No, of course not. But I think it is interesting that when sometimes they say if you're an essential worker, you need to come back to work, even on a snow day or even when we have not passed an increase in the debt limit, and there's a fuss about them, you can say, okay, maybe those are ones that Elon Musk

[00:15:48] and the Department of Government Efficiency might want to think about encouraging them to seek employment elsewhere. The issue of executive orders came up this weekend at CBS. As I said before, CBS's Margaret Brennan, she can ask any question she wants. It's her program. And, again, when she's asking of the vice president, he also can respond as he wants to.

[00:16:18] I think some of these were unfair, but you'd be the judge. I thought of bringing in the audio, but since they cross-talk across each other, I think it would be simpler for me to explain that Margaret Brennan started out part of her questioning with this. You campaigned on lowering prices for consumers. We've seen all these executive orders. Which one lowers prices? Okay, that's maybe not the fairest question, but we'll leave it as it is.

[00:16:47] So, J.D. Vance, vice president, said, well, first of all, we've done a lot. There's been a number of executive orders that have caused already jobs to start coming back into our country, which is a core part of lowering prices. You know, again, bringing jobs back, having more jobs, that's going to be helpful. And he talked about the fact that we then have more capital investment, more job creation. This is going to empower consumers to be able to afford what they need.

[00:17:14] So then Margaret Brennan pops off with, so grocery prices aren't going to come down, which I think was a little unfair. And then J.D. Vance says, well, no, Margaret, prices are going to come down, but it's going to take a bit of time. Then he reminds her, the president has only been president for five days. I think that in those five days he's accomplished more than Joe Biden did in four years. Okay, a bit of hyperbole. It's been an incredible breakneck pace of activity.

[00:17:44] But he said, okay, you specifically asked what executive order is going to bring and lower prices down. And he says all the stuff that we've done on energy to explore more energy reserves, to develop more energy resources in the United States. He goes on to say that one of the main drivers of increased prices under the Biden administration is that we had a massive increase in energy prices.

[00:18:09] Donald Trump has already taken multiple executive actions that are going to lower energy prices. And I do believe that means consumers are going to see lower prices at the pump, at the grocery store, but it's going to take a bit of time. I think that was a very reasonable answer. How would I answer it? Well, I'd point out the fact that energy is the basis because food is going to be expensive. Why?

[00:18:32] Because it takes more expense of energy to grow the crop, to plant the crop, to harvest the crop, to transport the crop, to manufacture that, and then to distribute it to the grocery store. So all the way through, the price of energy shows up in the price of groceries. There's one example. Also, of course, the price of energy lower at the pump. That's going to be helpful.

[00:19:00] I mean, you can begin to think that through. Now, one thing he can't say is one of the reasons inflation went up is because the Federal Reserve had to create more money. And you have more money and the same number of goods. That's called what? Inflation. I think he could say we're going to do all we can to make sure that we try to balance a budget so that we don't have to print more money.

[00:19:23] But nevertheless, that is, I think, a reasonable answer to that, I think, question at CBS. We'll each day try to cover a couple other executive orders, but I think you can get the idea. And I'm going to see the pushback going back and forth all the way. Let me also mention that there is another resource here that we wanted to make available to you. And it's a piece by Katie Pavlich. And that is, it's entitled, Yes, De-Banking is Real.

[00:19:52] Last week we talked about the World Economic Forum. Interesting enough, Donald Trump spoke. And at one point in the midst of his presentation, he said, I hope you start opening your bank to conservatives because many conservatives complain that the banks are not allowing them to do business with the bank. They don't take conservative business. Of course, you've had, of course, the Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan was there. And we have all sorts of examples in this article.

[00:20:19] I have provided to you a number of commentaries that go into this. And, of course, the reaction, of course, as Bank of America says, we have more than 70 million clients. We welcome conservatives. But then you have all sorts of quotes that Katie Pavlich has pulled together, one from Eric Prince, another one from, interestingly enough, the individual who was at Silicon Valley. And that's Mark Andresen.

[00:20:47] We've talked about this in previous commentaries. And so this is another kind of four-page article to remind us that, yes, we've had the problem of debanking, not just in England, not just in France, not just in Germany, but here in the United States. And I think Donald Trump knows something about it because I talked just a week ago and documented it in one of my commentaries that Melania Trump talks about it in her latest book.

[00:21:14] So if you are maybe wanting to get some facts and figures about this phenomenon of debanking, that's another article we've posted for you on the website at pointofview.net. We come back, we're going to talk about debanking and anti-Semitism right after this. In 19th century London, two towering historical figures did battle, not with guns and bombs, but words and ideas.

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[00:22:52] You are listening to Point of View. The opinions expressed on Point of View do not necessarily reflect the views of the management or staff of this station. And now, here again, is Kirby Anderson. Back once again, let me just mention, we're going to be talking about anti-Semitism.

[00:23:16] This booklet that I'm holding up, for those of you watching online, on anti-Semitism, is available free of charge. We had it come out before, especially after the attack on October 7th and the impact that that has had on not only our culture, but even on college campuses, which we'll be talking about in just a minute. It is Holocaust Remembrance Day, and certainly that is another reason to talk about this issue. Jack Werfel has been with us before.

[00:23:42] He was born back in 1932 in Germany to his Jewish mother and Catholic father. Lived in Austria until about 1936, but anticipating Hitler's invasion of Austria, his parents sent Jack and his brother Peter back to Germany to live with their Jewish grandparents in Berlin. As the persecution of Jews intensified, Jack's grandfather was able to sneak the boys into hiding in a children's summer camp in a resort.

[00:24:12] And so there, Jack and Peter lived for 12 years, surviving bombing raids and SS police surveillance and all sorts of things. Their mother died in Auschwitz. Father, a political prisoner, eventually died after his liberation. Eventually, though, there was an opportunity for Jack and his brother to come to the United States.

[00:24:36] And as a result, Jack took night classes to learn English, found a job in an insurance company after serving two years in the U.S. Army, got involved in a number of other activities, founded Diversified Insurance Industries, which was really one of the most successful, and has been with us before to certainly talk about his own experience. But also, we're going to talk about one of these revised anti-Semitism policies at the institution of Harvard University.

[00:25:05] So, Jack, welcome back to Point of View. Thank you. Thank you. Can you maybe remind us? I'm sure I left a little bit out of your story, but I think it's a really great story. And I think it's, if nothing else, an opportunity for people to begin to think about how important this day is, Holocaust Remembrance Day, isn't it? Yes, indeed. Can you maybe share a little bit more? What did I leave out? I'm sure I left something out here.

[00:25:35] Well, no, you did a pretty good job. You did pretty well. Okay. It's just that I lost my entire family, but you mentioned my mother and my father and so on. But my grandparents, my uncles, my aunts, we lost everybody except my brother and I stayed alive. Yeah. What a sad story. Anyway, we do have a link to your website in case people would ever like to hear your story, have you come and speak.

[00:26:00] But one of the things I thought we might address is we don't have a Holocaust taking place in America, but we have seen a number of young people marching in the streets to actually support Hamas. And in many cases have been even willing to attack Jewish students, prevent Jewish students sometimes to going to class.

[00:26:25] And then when we've had some of the presidents of some of these institutions, and I'm thinking Harvard, MIT, University of Pennsylvania, certainly the ones that many people have focused on, we've seen a level of anti-Semitism. Can you speak to that issue? Because you have certainly probably seen that even more so than many of us have.

[00:26:47] Yeah, that was amazingly disappointing to myself and I'm sure to others, to other Jewish people. It's hard to believe that someone like Harvard University could not understand the proper definition of anti-Semitism.

[00:27:13] And well, they now change their mind because the head of Harvard University went to Congress and had nothing good to say about the Jews and what happened there.

[00:27:29] So the guy who, the person who ran Harvard University was asked to leave the school and Harvard University now has changed their definition of anti-Semitism. So hopefully people will understand it a little better.

[00:27:55] You know, anti-Semitism was a phrase that was first coined back in the 19th century in which at that time they were noticing the hostility towards the prejudice against Jewish people. But of course, the anti-Jewish mentality goes all the way back much earlier than that as well.

[00:28:16] And of course, the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance uses a definition for anti-Semitism which calls for a number of things. But it would involve calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology. It includes making, these are some of their words, mendacious, anti- or dehumanizing or demonizing stereotypical allegations about Jews.

[00:28:43] And it does seem to me that that is something that needs to happen, not just at Harvard University, but other places. And it is still amazing to me when we look at this, Jack, that if you were to say some of the same kinds of things that are being allowed to be said about Jewish students,

[00:29:06] if you were to say that about Muslim students, about black students, even about women that are on campus, those would be denounced immediately. But there seems to still be kind of a pass on allowing individuals to make pretty outrageous statements sometimes about Jewish people. Is that what you see? Yeah, I do see that.

[00:29:32] And, you know, to me, that's a big possibility because ever since I was a little boy, I always ask, what is the definition? What does anti-Semitism really mean? I mean, the Jewish people that I knew were very fine people, very nice people. They were very productive people. They were very intelligent people. They were teachers. They were doctors. They were everything, you know, that they did such a wonderful job everywhere.

[00:30:02] And in addition to that, in most countries in which they lived. And it was just a total puzzle to me that this could happen in October 19, you know, 83, October the 7th. It was absolutely amazing.

[00:30:21] And what was even as much amazing to me was the fact that someone like would run a university, like Harvard University, one of the finest in the world, that that person who ran that school, when he was asked to come before Congress and talk about what was happening between the war,

[00:30:47] between Israel and Hamas, he could not really talk about anti-Semitism. He couldn't even, he did not sympathize with the Jewish people at all. So now, finally, I guess he, they did change the definition, their definition, Harvard's definition of anti-Semitism.

[00:31:16] Let me just mention, too, we're going to take a break and come back and talk about it a little bit more. Nearly every survey, and we talk about this in our booklet, that has been taken the last few years has shown a growing problem with anti-Semitism. So even before October 7th, and what happened, of course, now 18 months in round numbers, or 15 months since that time, we've seen an increase. But that was going on for some time.

[00:31:43] And I've pointed out before that if you were to look at how many times there are speakers, oftentimes, even in the Democratic Party, although they've had people in their own Democratic Party that have sometimes made some pretty unbelievable and outrageous comments, but even with various individuals, Republicans or Democrats, a lot of them have been Democratic leaders, cite the fact that there's been a rise of hate crimes.

[00:32:08] They never mention the fact that the rise in hate crimes have been the rise in anti-Semitism, because nearly half of all of the anti-Semitic incidents that are listed as hate crimes, or I should say almost half of the hate crimes are actually anti-Semitic incidents, and the number of anti-Semitic incidents on campus now in the last year plus have jumped significantly as well.

[00:32:36] And if you think about this just from a statistical point of view, there are probably at best 18 million Jewish people in the world, and in round numbers about 6 million plus in the United States, about 6 million in Israel, it's not exact, but about 6 million in the diaspora, or put another way, the Jewish population in America, 1.8%,

[00:33:06] just less than 2% of the population are Jewish, and yet almost all of the most egregious examples, seemingly, have been anti-Semitic incidents, even the hate crimes that are sometimes listed, some of those are even fake hate crimes, and so you're recognizing that the real issue of hate crimes in America today is anti-Semitism. Let's take a break, though. We'll continue our conversation with Jack Werfel,

[00:33:34] and we'll continue that right after these important messages. You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. Continue our conversation for a few more minutes with Jack Werfel.

[00:34:03] I might just mention, again, it was about this time last year that Claudine Gay, the president of Harvard University, stepped down, and we now, of course, have a much more significant statement from Harvard University. They say, quote, We are resolute in our efforts to confront anti-Semitism and will continue to implement robust steps to maintain a welcoming, open, and safe campus environment where every student feels a sense of belonging.

[00:34:30] Today's settlement reflects our dedication to this mission. Again, this is an attempt to certainly have a broader definition of anti-Semitism. You, of course, have a couple of things going on. First of all, you have Harvard University now willing to settle two lawsuits having to do with anti-Semitism, one which was calling Harvard a bastion of rampant anti-Jewish hatred and harassment, and then you have the Brandeis Center

[00:35:00] and Jewish Americans for Fairness in Education also agreeing to settle the Title VI litigation. So there also were some litigations involved with that. As we've said before, sometimes if people don't see the light, they feel the heat. So, Jack, I wanted to come to you for another minute or two because it does seem to me that this provides a model. Okay, Harvard didn't get it right, and I'm willing to say that was a mistake.

[00:35:29] Like, Claudine Gay wasn't very good in trying to understand the needs and the concerns of Jewish people and his particular Jewish students, but I think now what Harvard has put together provides maybe a model for other universities to follow. Follow, what do you think? Well, let's hope so. I hope so. I think there are one or two other universities where their heads were asked to leave because of this. Yeah, MIT and Penn, yeah.

[00:35:59] Yeah, exactly. And let's hope that it will help, you know. I just don't understand why these universities and even public schools, why don't we teach in this country our students in our schools? Why don't we teach them what this was all about?

[00:36:27] What happened during the Third World War? What happened to six, seven million Jews that were killed in a short period of time, you know? 1945, yeah, to 1939. I mean, it's a very short period of time to kill seven million people. And it's just unbelievable to me, you know, that this could even happen. And I just hope,

[00:36:52] and I just hope that this is not in any way happen again. And that's when I wrote my little book, My Two Lives. Yes. I'm trying to point out certain facts in that book that today this could happen again. And these, Harvard University is a classic example of what I'm talking about, you know.

[00:37:20] I was talking about this before I even knew what Harvard University was doing. Right. But this is exactly what I had in mind, you know. There is no education to our students and to our universities that teaches the most important part of our history, history of mankind. Where else in those few years have people killed seven million people? Now, why aren't people being taught this

[00:37:49] in those schools? That's what I'd like to know. Let me just mention that we do have a link to your book because I think some people, if they were not with us the last time we did the interview, we do have a link to My Two Lives. And again, one of the things that we also have is a link to your website in which you talk about we really have a disappearing generation. One of my guests that was in studio before this actually is at a Jewish center and he said each year they used to actually do a program

[00:38:19] on the Holocaust with some of the survivors, but all the survivors of the Holocaust that were in the Jewish center where he is located, they're all gone and they've all died. And so we really are losing an entire generation and if we don't say always remember, we're going to have it happen again, aren't we? Yes. Exactly. That's what I'm afraid of. Yeah. That's the point I'm trying to make by my book

[00:38:48] and by these interviews that we are having with you. And again, I might just mention in your piece, which again, I would encourage people to go to, a section, many Americans know little about the Holocaust. A survey done by Pew Research found that indeed even asking adults whether or not they know about the Holocaust fewer than half could really answer some basic kind of multiple choice questions about the Holocaust.

[00:39:18] So on this day of Holocaust remembrance, I certainly wanted to spend some time talking about that. And if you find yourself saying, well, how can I maybe celebrate this? How can I maybe educate my children and grandchildren? We do have a link to your book, My Two Lives, in which it tells an incredible story. You can get it in hardback or Kindle. You might be able to find it in your local bookstore. We've made it very easy for you to find. Also, you can go to the link

[00:39:47] that we have for Jack, which again, gives you some videos and some other resources. And it does seem to me that we maybe can lament that some of these individuals are not being taught about this in the public school system. Well, we can certainly do what we can to educate our children and grandchildren. And that's why we wanted to have you on today. So, Jack, thank you for your incredible testimony. Thank you for coming on again to talk about this new, revised

[00:40:16] anti-Semitism policy at Harvard. We pray and work that maybe that will be generated some enthusiasm and maybe become a model for what other universities need to do. So, thank you for joining us today on this very important day. Thank you so much for making a point of all of this and letting me talk to you on the phone about this. I appreciate it very much. Let me just mention before we go

[00:40:45] that in our booklet on the issue of anti-Semitism, of course, talk about the growing problem of anti-Semitism. And I'll, of course, even remind you that if you go to the book of Esther, you know that there was a desire by Haman to actually destroy all the Jews, the people of Mordecai throughout the whole kingdom. And, of course, you know the rest of that story. We also know that after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem and the exile of Jews,

[00:41:15] A.D. 70, some Christians oftentimes, I think, wrongly misunderstood that the Jews are responsible for the death of Jesus. You have everything from the blood libel to all sorts of other ideas being presented. And so, this is an attempt to try to answer some of those questions and to remind us that if anything, we as Christians really want to stand with Jewish people and any kind of persecution

[00:41:44] for any reason is inappropriate. And so, that's one of the reasons why during this Holocaust Remembrance Day, we wanted to spend a little bit of time talking about that as well. Let me just, before I say goodbye for Monday, recognize that my commentary today is called Tipping Point and it's asking a question, with all the fires there in California, are Californians nearing the tipping point? Of course, you have President Trump going out there

[00:42:14] as well. And so, again, you can read the commentary. It's a piece that reminds us of some of the comments made by Charles Cook related to that as well. But most importantly, I hope that you'll take the time to find some of the resources we've posted today. I would certainly recommend any of the resources from Joe McElhaney and the Medical Institute for Sexual Health. We, of course, also mentioned Jack Werfel's book, which again is available, and some of the commentaries dealing

[00:42:43] with some of these executive orders. And at the very end, I'll also mention real quickly some good documentation about how debanking has been taking place and even President Trump raised it when he talked to those at the World Economic Forum. As always, I want to thank Megan for help engineering the program. Steve, thank you for producing the program. We'll see you back here tomorrow, right here on Point of View. It was not that long ago

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