Point of View January 22, 2025 – Hour 2 : Denmark and Greenland

[00:00:04] Across America, Live, this is Point of View. And now, Hannah Dexter. Welcome back to Point of View. It's day two, at least the second full day of the Trump administration.

[00:00:26] We've been hearing a lot about actions the administration is taking, especially with regard to the subject, the huge topic of energy and climate. And a lot of it is quite gratifying. I have posted at PointofView.net a piece, Business and Energy Groups Praise Trump's Day One Actions. And I do have an expert on that issue joining me now. Her name is Carla Sands.

[00:00:56] She is vice chair of the Center for Energy and Environment at America First Policy Institute. She's also chair of AFPI's Pennsylvania chapter. And in the first Trump administration, she was U.S. Ambassador to the Kingdom of Denmark, which includes Greenland and the Faroe Islands. And her number one goal as ambassador there was to increase U.S. national security by establishing a consulate in Greenland.

[00:01:23] So we're going to discuss that. But first, Carla, thank you so much for joining me. Oh, I'm so happy to talk to you, Hannah. Well, I'm glad you're here. We had some technical issues, but just in time for my interview schedule with you. And I'm just thrilled about that because I know that you at America First Policy Institute, which has really been formulating policy for the second Trump administration.

[00:01:49] And of course, they can do whatever they want. But it seems like they're doing some great things with regard to, for instance, announced today that we're pulling out of the Paris Climate Accords. Talk about that. How much do we love that President Trump on day one pulled us out of the Paris Climate Accords and saved the American people about a trillion dollars?

[00:02:12] But it also saves good paying jobs, especially in the energy sector and in manufacturing, because Paris is going to require us to do things that we shouldn't do. We're a really good country when it comes to harvesting energy and manufacturing. We're the cleanest country in the world. We have very high standards, but we were also going to be transferring hundreds of millions of dollars, sorry, hundreds of billions to countries like China that aren't cleaning up their atmosphere,

[00:02:41] that are continuing to pollute and are opening about 100 new coal-fired plants just this year. So the other sort of part of this is the declaration of an energy emergency. What exactly does that mean? That is so exciting. I actually had to go print it just so I could read it word for word and understand what President Trump is doing. And we at AFPI helped to write that executive order.

[00:03:10] What it does is it gives the president tremendous powers so that he can and it's explicitly in your listeners, if they're interested, can go and find it online. The executive order about President Trump's national emergency, the energy. And so what he can do is he is going to corral the DOD, the Energy Department and the Interior Department to work together.

[00:03:37] And it does explicitly state in their western states and northeastern states that are not they don't have good energy policy. And what they've been doing is they've been blocking things like Pennsylvania has the Marcella shale and we have gas and we want to send it to New England. But we're not legally allowed to because New York blocks the pipeline that would take American energy to New England.

[00:04:05] So when that war broke out between Russia and Ukraine, when Russia invaded Ukraine, New England was heating their homes in the winter with Russian gas. Russian energy was being tankered to New England because America couldn't move our energy by pipe through New York to New England. And we weren't allowed to move it by vessel because we have the Jones Act has to be an American ship that does that.

[00:04:31] And we just don't have any longer the shipping capacity to send our energy from one state to another by water. We would have to use a foreign flag ship and that's illegal. So we were so New England was was not able to use domestic energy. So President Trump sees the ridiculousness in that he's a common sense president.

[00:04:52] He's going to break down all of these obstructionist governors and these laws that keep American energy out of certain areas. Look at California with their energy policy, their water policy and what that's done, the havoc it's wreaked on a beautiful state like California. And things are going to change very quickly. It seems like things are changing quickly.

[00:05:15] That's the interesting part about this, just the competency of a person who's been successful in business, who is a successful president the first term. Just this time, because there was so much prep done by your organization and others, that he was ready to begin doing these things. Now, something else is the you mentioned California.

[00:05:42] Of course, they in their plans right now is that electrical vehicles will be the only kind of car you can get within just a very, very short time. And it's just unsustainable. And that is going to change under this Trump administration. Right. That's right. He has removed the easy mandate. California was trying to make policy for our whole country.

[00:06:07] And the kind of the Western world was following suit and going electric. But because a lot of states like Virginia, Pennsylvania, Virginia withdrew from it. The governor there withdrew them from it. Connecticut, the Democrat governor withdrew Connecticut from this California EV mandate. But there are many other states that are still signed on to it.

[00:06:28] But I believe that President Trump ending the EV mandate and then he's going to end those subsidies, I believe, the $7,500 cash back that people get when they purchase an EV. Because when manufacturers make electric vehicles, they can't compete against combustion engine cars. They're more expensive to make.

[00:06:50] They also, people don't know this, they pollute more for the first 15 years of their lives than a combustion engine car. And you could say, well, how is that possible? It's because of the tons of mining and the refining. These are very dirty polluting processes just to make an electric vehicle because of all of the rare earths and the components that go into making the battery. Tons and tons of mining for every single electric vehicle.

[00:07:21] And so combustion engine cars are more popular with Americans. We know that the president, the former president, President Biden, I think he dedicated around $7 billion to build electric vehicle charging stations throughout the country. And I think they got about eight of them built for $7 billion. Government doesn't do things well. Private business does things well. And so it's very purposeful what President Trump is doing.

[00:07:49] But one of the things that the former Congress, the 118th Congress did, is they passed their first bill was called H.R.1. And it was really more than an energy bill. It did end the EV mandate. So that's already done. Yes. Wow. Okay. Let me jump in because we've got a break. But, Carla, I didn't know that one. I want you to explain what Congress did.

[00:08:14] And we also want to ask you about the possibility of some kind of arrangement with Greenland because you talk about these rare earth minerals. They've got them. And there are other reasons that Greenland and close ties with them would be positive. And you know that probably better than anyone. So I'm going to ask you about that after the break. But, ladies and gentlemen, it's good news to hear from someone who actually knows these policies and was hoping that they would be implemented. And now they are. So stick with us.

[00:08:44] We've got more explanation of them right after this. This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson. The year 1776 changed the Western world in significant ways. That is the conclusion of Andrew Wilson, pastor of King's Church in London, in his book Remaking the World.

[00:09:13] It was on my radio program to discuss his book. He explains that the big idea of this book is that 1776, more than any other year in the last millennium, is a year that made us who we are. He describes it as a year that witnessed seven transformations taking place. Globalization, the Enlightenment, the Industrial Revolution, the Great Enrichment, the American Revolution, the rise of post-Christianity, and the dawn of Romanticism.

[00:09:38] He describes this society as one relative to others past and present is weirder. Each letter is an acronym. He concludes that the vast majority of people in human history have not shared our views about work, family, government, religion, sex, identity, or morality. W stands for Western and focuses on the issue of globalization. One key event is the voyage of Captain James Cook.

[00:10:03] His travels generated certain questions like why were some natives more advanced than others? Western society began to get into the deep roots of culture and wondered why Western society developed before other cultures. E stands for educated and focuses on the impact of the Enlightenment. Obviously, the Enlightenment started nearly a century before, but one high point was 1776.

[00:10:26] That was the year that Emmanuel Kant drafted his critique of pure reason and the year that Edward Gibbon published his decline and fall of the Roman Empire. Tomorrow, we'll look at other events in 1776 that led to the remaking of our world. I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view. For a free booklet on a biblical view of genetic engineering, go to viewpoints.info slash genetic engineering.

[00:10:54] Viewpoints.info slash genetic engineering. You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. I'm Pena Dexter, and I am joined by phone by Carla Sands. She is vice chair of the Center for Energy and Environment, America First Policy Institute. I did mention that I posted something, an article on this issue at pointofview.net, the issue of energy.

[00:11:21] And one quote, the American Energy Alliance cataloged over 250 actions that former President Biden and his team took to make the production of American energy harder and more expensive. Carla, these are being undone piece by piece, aren't they? Yes, or chunk by chunk. I mean, President Trump is rolling back a lot of President Biden's executive orders.

[00:11:46] He is clawing back that Green New Deal money that taxpayers don't want to spend. It's mostly cronyism where, you know, President Biden was giving deals to his buddies, often Democrat donors, kind of like Cylinder 2.0. We don't want that in America. We actually want our government to stay in its lane and do what it's supposed to do, defend us, make sure the roads and bridges are working well,

[00:12:14] and more or less stay out of our lives and certainly leave our faith alone. And I think that President Trump is reasserting a traditional American government. And I think this is the most consequential presidency since George Washington's because of what he's doing and how our country was really on the wrong track,

[00:12:37] profoundly off course and becoming something that for people like me, adults, fully formed adults, I didn't even recognize our country and what the government was mandating and doing. And it was really scary to me because I have a daughter that I care about. She's in her 20s, and I want her to be able to enjoy the freedoms that I enjoyed growing up. And so I really feel like President Trump is bringing our country back on course.

[00:13:05] And I think because of this, he will help to bring the world back on course because the world is on fire right now. And the Biden administration and Obama administration before that administration was sending a lot of, I would say, un-American and certainly anti-faith stuff around the world and tying aid and trade to anti-American, anti-traditional American concepts.

[00:13:34] You mentioned the Congress already passing H.R. 1, is it? Yes. Well, 118th Congress passed H.R. 1. Okay. And it was about unleashing American energy. And it had things like reducing permitting time so people that want to do a project can get that project okayed. And they don't do something called denial by delay, where they just keep delaying a project so you can never get there.

[00:14:00] It limits the lawfare, its lawsuits, you know, as war against energy projects or also development projects by these green groups that are sometimes funded by leftist billionaires or foreign governments that want to stop American progress. Remember, the left, the real left, like the Biden administration was, is really anti-human and about deindustrializing America and the West.

[00:14:28] They didn't want good energy projects. They didn't want our country to be great. And right now we are on track to become even greater than we were. Yes. I mentioned before you joined me that the Davos World Economic Forum is going on right now. In fact, it started the day the president was inaugurated. And there's a whole shift in attitude there among leaders. Some of them aren't madly in love with some of the policies, tariffs, and different things that Trump has announced.

[00:14:57] But they also realize he starts big and there's a negotiation to be had. But many of them saw the results from the first administration. And they also see the way he's hitting the ground running. And many of them seem very optimistic. Well, I heard the statements by the German Prime Minister Olaf Scholz. And he basically said, look, we have freedom of speech in Germany, but not freedom of speech for the far right.

[00:15:26] People that want to limit immigration are considered far right by him. People that want legal immigration in Germany. Germany is changing as a country. Its culture is changing. Its demographics are changing because of the international organizations like the UN that are forcing Western countries, including the U.S., no longer, but were forcing us to have unlimited, unbridled immigration.

[00:15:51] And we were taxpayers were paying for that illegal immigration to bring folks in, to pay, to give them a roof over their heads, food, social benefits, free education, a free cell phone, and then cash cards. Well, that stopped on President Trump's watch. And I believe that's why European elections are changing. You know, governments are changing in Europe because of the illegal immigration largely.

[00:16:20] You know, and they're not coming from majority Christian countries like American immigration has been. It's mostly Muslim-majority countries. And so that's also, you know, upsetting the culture of these European countries that are nominally Christian still. Carla, you may have to say no to this, but I'm wondering if, because we actually, our interview is supposed to end at the bottom of the hour.

[00:16:46] I wonder if you could give me 15 more minutes because I have so many things to ask you. I can give you about five more. Okay. Good. Okay. So when I was ambassador to Denmark, the Kingdom of Denmark, about 3% of the Danish people go to church on a weekly basis. It is the least Christian country in Europe. Oh, that must have been fun for you. Well, it was interesting.

[00:17:13] Whenever I would post something on social media that was pro-faith, I would get the most hate and vitriol would be when I would post things like that. All right. Well, speaking from your ambassadorship, I do want to talk about, because along the way, before this recent election and since then also,

[00:17:35] there's been this interest expressed by President Trump in having some sort of, well, buying Greenland or having some sort of arrangement with Greenland, which was under your purview or at least part of your responsibilities there when you were ambassador. And, you know, some people just thought it was crazy, but it's not a bizarre idea, is it? Well, it's not. He's the third U.S. president to propose this.

[00:18:02] And Denmark is a kingdom, so it has three countries in its kingdom. It has Denmark, the small country in northern Europe, and then Greenland, the world's largest island. It's just off our northeast coast, and it's a third the size of the continental U.S., with only 57,000 people residing there. And then there's the Faroe Islands, and they're just north of Scotland, up in the subarctic region.

[00:18:30] Wow. So Greenland, I guess I didn't realize that it was that large, a third the size of the United States. We did buy the Virgin Islands at one point from Denmark. So, you know, buying Greenland is one thing, or you could have an arrangement. Yeah. Just a little over 100 years ago, we bought the U.S. Virgin Islands from Denmark for about $100 million.

[00:18:57] But Greenland is semi-autonomous, so it doesn't belong to Denmark. But Denmark has the competencies for its security and for its foreign policy. And the problem is why I got concerned when I got to Denmark as ambassador was that Greenland is not protected by Denmark because they don't have the capacity.

[00:19:21] It would be like saying to Colorado about the same-sized GDP and population, okay, go protect Greenland. They just can't do it. They don't have the money or the resources, the manpower. And they have never developed Greenland. It's been languishing up there in the Arctic. And there's not even a road between two towns in Greenland. There is zero development.

[00:19:46] Most of the development there, buildings and things like that, whatever ports they have, were built by the U.S. military when we occupied Greenland during World War II and then kept a presence there through the Cold War, to the end of the Cold War. So the airports were built by us. Now, in the last few years, they've built a couple of airports that were financed by Denmark because Greenland really does want to be developed.

[00:20:14] It wants to have successful mining, successful tourism. They told me that when I was ambassador, and I worked to help them by getting resources from the State Department to make that come true, those dreams they had. But the fact is that the Chinese Communist Party tried to finance and build those airports that Denmark ended up financing for them because they were trying to pull Greenland into their Belt and Road initiative.

[00:20:42] China says, and this is the Chinese Communist Party, that they're a near-polar nation, near-Arctic nation, but there's no such thing. And they believe that because they have the population they do, that they're entitled to the Arctic riches, but they don't have any Arctic land or sea. So they're very presumptuous. Let me jump in because we've got a break.

[00:21:06] So China is encroaching in the Arctic, and there's another strategic reason that the United States has got to do something with regard to this, and Greenland would be a good way to do that. Carla Sands will be with me for a few more minutes, so stick with us for more of Point of View. It almost seems like we live in a different world from many people in positions of authority.

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[00:22:52] You are listening to Point of View. The opinions expressed on Point of View do not necessarily reflect the views of the management or staff of this station. And now, here again is Penna Dexter. Ambassador Carla Sands with me for a few more minutes. I've resumed on your time, Carla, but let me just ask you this question.

[00:23:19] We can talk a little bit after you have to go about some of the advantages of a relationship with Greenland. Greenland, but I want to know from your experience there, what is Greenland's attitude to a closer relationship with the U.S.? You said that you sense positivity, but also, I guess, what about Denmark?

[00:23:41] Are they willing to make a change in the way they relate to this huge and well-endowed island? Well, I guess Carla can't hear me. Our little technical issues are cropping up again, I think. No, sorry. Oh, hi, Carla. Hi, Carla. Did you hear my question? Yes, I could.

[00:24:06] Denmark is very upset about this because Greenland makes Denmark a player. It's the world's largest island. It's very important, and it's geostrategic for the United States. We have a base on Greenland. It's above the Arctic Circle. It's our most northern base. In the world. And so Denmark hates this. It's very upsetting, but the fact is, if they could defend it, they would.

[00:24:35] And if they could develop it, they would have. They haven't done anything. They've done as little as possible. They send around $600 million as a transfer payment to Greenland every year, but they benefit from Greenland a lot. They have, you know, fishing. There's a lot of fishing around Greenland. That's the main export. All of the flights historically have gone through Denmark. The shipping has gone through Denmark historically.

[00:25:00] Now, I know Greenland wants to change that and be more independent, but they're very linked together, and there was oppressive things that Denmark did to the Greenlanders over the centuries. So, Greenland doesn't really like Denmark that much. Denmark likes having Greenland. Greenland just wants development. They just want to be – they want to have income for their people, have great-paying jobs, and be secure.

[00:25:29] They really don't care where the money comes from. They just say money doesn't have – there's no color to money. Money is money. They don't really care. And so they don't understand the national security implications. Perhaps the leaders do, but I'm not sure the folks do. Well, go ahead. No, I was just going to say United States is the only nation, you know, friendly, that can really secure the region. It's part of North America. This is Greenland now.

[00:25:58] And I think that President Trump will get to a good place with Denmark, which is a great NATO ally. And with Greenland, I think that he'll work out a deal. He's a dealmaker, and it'll be a deal where everyone comes away, you know, with something. But I do think that it's upsetting to the Danish people. They have an asset they can't afford to own, basically. Yeah. Oh, Carla, thank you for explaining that.

[00:26:28] I don't think people understood. And it does sound like that it could actually be good for all parties. And, you know, if there's a president that can make that happen, it's probably President Trump. Yeah. He'll get it to a good place. That's right, Hannah. All right, Carla. I just want to thank you for staying a little longer and for your input here. And definitely next time I have you on, I'm going to have you for a full hour. I'm going to find an hour of yours, and we're going to do it. So thank you. Awesome. Thanks, Hannah. Take care. All right.

[00:26:57] That is Carla Sand. She was ambassador to the Kingdom of Denmark. So she knows a lot about Greenland. And, you know, the issue ever since Inauguration Day, we haven't heard the issue of Greenland, but I think we will again.

[00:27:09] And so, you know, just to recap a little bit of the advantages of having some sort of relationship, and I'm not necessarily saying buying, but perhaps just some other way of mutually benefiting one another and also benefiting Denmark.

[00:27:28] Because, you know, I guess Carla made the case that Denmark really couldn't afford to take full advantage of Greenland and its relationship with them. So the United States could afford to take full advantage of the United States. So the United States could afford that, and perhaps it could benefit both countries. But one thing that's there, you've got the Chinese encroaching in the Arctic.

[00:27:49] And so it would provide, having this strategic relationship with Greenland would provide security against attacks from the north. And also Greenland has a lot of raw materials, minerals like cobalt and copper and nickel. And China has a lot of these also, and they control the processing of them. And they want to remain in control of that.

[00:28:15] So they would love to, you know, have that from Greenland also. But it would be beneficial to the United States to have those needed minerals. And then you also have Russia making little incursions in the area also. So you've got a security situation where the United States, we already have, I think we have some troops there. But I'm not sure if we still do. She mentioned that we did until the end of the Cold War.

[00:28:46] And so that is there. And so, you know, another good reason, national security, having sort of a base of operation in the Arctic would be good. Trump is becoming more and more serious about this, about having some arrangement. And it sounds like the Greenlanders would benefit greatly. And probably he has to convince Denmark that it would be good for them too.

[00:29:13] And one other benefit that I read about was that it would provide vital communications between the United States and Europe. And you could have a purchase. You could have a free association agreement. But it has been said that whoever controls Greenland will have an inside track on controlling the Arctic. So that's another very interesting part of it.

[00:29:39] But Danish officials, though, if you kind of dig into this a little bit, CNN reports that they fear that Trump is much more serious about acquiring the territory. He did mention this in his first term. But then he was in the first term. But they're being warned by Trump allies and advisors that he's much more serious.

[00:30:00] And the ecosystem, one senior Danish official said, the ecosystem supporting this idea is totally different now than it was in 2019 when Trump first proposed it. This seems much more serious. And Trump has said we need Greenland for national security purposes. And then, of course, I didn't ask Ambassador Sands about this.

[00:30:26] But apparently there's some confusion on whether Greenland, whether Denmark has a legal right to the country. If they do, Trump says they should give it up because we need it for national security. And, of course, as she said, it would benefit Greenland more than the relationship with Denmark does. Asked about Trump's comments.

[00:30:53] Outgoing Secretary of State Anthony Blinken said that the idea expressed about Greenland is obviously not a good one. But maybe more important is not going to happen. I wouldn't put anything past Donald Trump. I really, truly wouldn't. And after hearing Ambassador Sands talk about the benefits to Greenland, to the U.S., and perhaps even to Denmark, that makes that even a little more apparent.

[00:31:22] Trump warned that Denmark could face steep tariffs if it does not give up control of Greenland. And so, you know, there may be a little bit of that kind of back and forth negotiating going on, too. So anyway, Greenland possibility, not one of the things being talked about in these first two days of the Trump administration, but certainly something that will be discussed in the future.

[00:31:51] And that's certainly a possibility. And so, you know, that's great. President Trump inherited a financial and monetary mess. This was written by Kevin Warsh last week in the Wall Street Journal. He's with the Hoover Institution. He's also a former member of the Federal Reserve Board. The federal government is spending – the spending of the federal government is about 52 percent higher than in 2019,

[00:32:20] and the budget deficit has risen by $849 billion. Since January 2020, the national debt is up more than 50 percent. We have to remember this. So this is the – one of the, I think, election issues, is certainly something that the Trump administration and the U.S. Congress is expected to deal with.

[00:32:46] Congress and President Trump can cut inflation with, Kevin Warsh says, strong regulatory policies and certainly getting rid of a lot of regulations and also cutting back on government spending and certainly getting these tech titans on board, shifting away from censorship, is also something that he actually inherited. It all began to be discussed right before the inauguration.

[00:33:16] So that situation is going to be a lot better for this president. Well, next up, we are going to talk about something that was announced today, that DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion, will be banished from the federal government. It might take a little time, but maybe not so long as we think. Stick with us. We'll be right back.

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[00:34:07] or ask a question. So if you want to try to get through right now – I'm not even sure about our technical issues, so try. I didn't want you to think I forgot. You may not be able to get through because I'm just not sure about our technical issues, but also – oh, we can't take any. Okay. All right. Never mind. Forget that. We'll do that another day. We'll let you weigh in some other day.

[00:34:35] I think I'm hosting next week because I do want to hear from you on what you're thinking here. I feel like a weight's been lifted, or a lot of weights have been lifted, and some regulations have been lifted. Maybe that's why. But here's another executive order that was already acted upon. It has to do with DEI, Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. And this article came out today.

[00:35:02] Layoffs loom as Trump administration orders federal DEI workers on leave. The administration took aim at DEI programs. They're throughout the government, by the way. And the employees will be placed on leave, and all the DEI employees in the departments that are advancing that in the federal government, they'll be placed on leave no later than today. The offices will be closed down by tonight.

[00:35:32] This directive will eventually lead to these employees being laid off or reassigned, but right now they're getting paid leave. And there were a couple of executive orders on DEI that he mentioned and announced on Monday. And he called these programs radical and wasteful. They're wasteful. You pay these people a lot of money to implement this stuff, but it's also radical and detrimental

[00:36:00] because hiring people based on their race or their gender identity doesn't always get you the best people. It might get you good people, but it's not the criterion that should be used for bringing in people that are going to do the country good. It's merit. It's merit. That should be the reason people are hired, because they either have good experience,

[00:36:28] they have good knowledge on the subject matter and whatever department they're being hired for, not because they are a certain color or a certain gender identity. Charles E. Zell sent out the memorandum, and he's in the Office of Personnel Management in the government.

[00:36:54] He sent it to federal department and agency heads instructing them to inform all employees of DE offices by 5 p.m. Today they're being placed on paid administrative leave, effective immediately. And agency heads must ask employees if they know of any efforts to disguise these programs. Some of them are being renamed so that they may escape the cutting of DEI,

[00:37:21] but they're going to try to dig into that and make sure that we don't have renamed DEI departments that are still existing in the federal government. So that's what's happening, and that was announced. And so some people are packing up their boxes right now, and they are going to get their paychecks. But dismantling DEI was the subject of Jason Reilly's column in the Wall Street Journal today, and he said that President Trump, quote,

[00:37:50] wants to prevent, to pivot from its predecessor's obsession with radical differences, as do millions of Americans of all political stripes. Biden called for equity, which for a long time ago used to mean equal treatment regardless of race, but it became a progressive euphemism for group preferences.

[00:38:16] And what it really means in practice is decriminalizing, discriminating, I'm sorry, can't read my own writing here, discriminating to achieve racial balance. So it's discrimination. It's reverse discrimination in one sense. Discrimination used to be a bad thing against blacks or Hispanics or whatever,

[00:38:44] but now it's discriminating against whoever is in the majority, which is whites. And so the last administration did indeed, as President Biden announced early on, make equity the business of the whole of government. He said he wanted to do that. He did. That's one thing that President Biden really succeeded at. They brought DEI into just about every department of government,

[00:39:13] and that's what's been taking place. Diversity, equity, inclusion, DEI programs throughout the government, implementing mandates for hiring according to race and also gender identity. There's been a regime with regard to pronouns, and if you misgender someone with regard to their pronouns,

[00:39:35] you can face a lot of hostility and just maybe some kind of punishment. President Trump got more support from minority voters than past Republican voters. So it's not as if the minorities are demanding DEI. I really think it's more of a totalitarian Marxist idea,

[00:40:01] and it's those people with those types of sensibilities that have been implementing these programs. Of course, it's all over the business world too, but many companies are now turning against it, and it's a good thing that the federal government is doing so. Jason Riley, of course, he's a black. You can tell I read his columns all the time. He's wonderful, and he doesn't always write about these issues. He writes about all kinds of issues.

[00:40:31] He's a really, really smart guy, and he definitely, he is very much against DEI, and many minorities are against this. Nearly half of Latinos and a quarter of black men voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden. So this was the time. The time was right now to purge the government of this,

[00:40:57] and he says, Jason Riley in the Wall Street Journal says, this makes common sense. He says, changing the targets of government discrimination, say to whites, which is kind of what's been done, won't undo the past. There has been past discrimination, but that doesn't mean we should have present discrimination of another race, and it just makes no common sense. And finally, common sense, you know, may begin to reign.

[00:41:27] The evidence has been piling up that the country wants to move past race in ways that the political left continues to resist. So there will be resistance on this, and, you know, they will have to make sure that some of the departments don't hide themselves away from this mandate, this directive from the federal government. But ladies and gentlemen,

[00:41:55] thank you for putting up with a couple of difficulties we had. We did miss out on one guest, and hopefully a couple of guests, actually. So hopefully we'll be able to reschedule them. I'm sure we will. But thank you for putting up with that. And tomorrow, I don't remember who's hosting. Maybe Kirby will be back. I think he probably will be back, and I'm getting the thumbs up on that. And then on Friday,

[00:42:23] you'll have a lot of fun with the group that's going to be here on Friday because just think how much is going to be announced in the next two days that are going to be fulfillments of some of these executive orders. And then on Friday, we'll have a lot of fun. And then on Friday, And then on Friday, And so I just want to really thank you for listening today and putting up with a couple of glitches here

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