Point of View February 5, 2025 – Hour 1 : 40 Day Stand For Marriage Restoration

[00:00:04] Across America, Live, this is Point of View, Kirby Anderson.

[00:00:20] Marriage is our topic today and one of the things that I say on this program with some regularity is almost every day couples go to the divorce courts over issues that other couples decide to work through and bring about greater intimacy. So we're going to be talking about whether or not we can stand supernaturally for marriage restoration.

[00:00:43] What are some key verses that might be appropriate? What are some faith filled declarations that might be helpful? And most importantly, we're going to talk about some of the testimonies that already have taken place of restoration. And to do that, we are going to spend some time talking with Jason Carver, who is a pastor and founder of Standing Supernaturally for Marriage Restoration. We have a link to the website.

[00:01:08] We also have a link to his YouTube channel, which I think you can see some great videos there as well. He's got an incredible, as I've shared before, about marriage restoration and his vision. He lives in Waco, Texas with his wife and his two daughters, and also, by the way, teaches tennis at Baylor University. Jason, welcome to Point of View. Hello, thank you so much for having me. Okay, one day, your wife says as you are heading off to church,

[00:01:36] why don't you give the girls a kiss before you leave? Seems a little bit unusual, but okay, I'll do that. You come home, you now have to file a missing persons report because your wife is gone, your daughters are gone, and you don't see them for, what, about 30 days. Can you tell the story? Oh, yes. It was actually Mother's Day, and you said it exactly right.

[00:02:00] I was heading to church to get things set up, and that was the last time I saw my wife or children for a month. I had no idea what was going on, but had an idea a few days into it, of course, when there was no contact. Christine left her cell phone on the kitchen counter and couldn't get a hold of her, and that started what I call a stand for my marriage.

[00:02:25] I had no idea, but my world just turned upside down, and my wife then shortly after that filed for divorce, and I got served divorce papers a little long after that, and that pretty much broke the ice. That's kind of one of the first contacts I had from her. And right then, Kirby, I just knew what was happening was not the Lord's plan. I knew that what was going on was just the effect of brokenness. It's just the effect of sin.

[00:02:54] My sin, my brokenness, her sin, her brokenness. I mean, just whatever the enemy was showing on us, that's what happened. And I just knew this wasn't the Lord's plan. And there weren't quite biblical grounds as we look at what the Scripture says. So I'm like, wait, none of this is making any sense. And that started a journey, almost a two-year journey of me praying and believing that God would heal and restore my marriage.

[00:03:20] And again, we'll talk about the success part of it, but part of the healing came from kind of a prophetic picture or vision that you had. And I would say that some people right now say, well, I'm not married, so this probably doesn't apply to me, or the divorce has already taken place, and that's old news. In some respects, what you're talking about here is have you had this plan for the future, and the plan for the future is about as distant as you can imagine from the current reality.

[00:03:48] So whether you're married or not married, whether you've never been married, you've been married and divorced, I think in some respects what we're going to be sharing is really helpful because it really helps you stand supernaturally for whatever it might be. In this case, of course, we're talking about marriage restoration. But I think some of these principles apply to everybody. Oh, absolutely. You know, you're mentioning an aspect when I was standing and believing and just confused. I didn't know what was going on.

[00:04:16] But I knew that the reality that I was facing and that was happening with my family and in my life, I just knew this wasn't God's plan. I knew this wasn't the promise. I knew this wasn't the picture. I knew this was a picture, and I just had the decision, what am I going to do? Am I going to believe? Am I going to stand? Am I going to say, God, you have something better for me? I know the current reality isn't looking good, but you've got something in store. And there was a moment then I was just crying out to God, really complaining to God, if you will.

[00:04:45] And just, you know, just saying, God, why haven't you brought my wife back yet? Why haven't you done this? And just kind of crying out to him. And in that moment, I saw this vision. I saw this picture in my mind, and I don't see a lot of vision, things like that, but I knew it was the Lord. And it was such a strange picture. It was a picture of a construction site, and in the construction site were all these angels, and they were wearing hard hats.

[00:05:13] And it was a very odd-looking thing. And I just heard the Lord say to me in my spirit, Jason, your family isn't finished. It's just under construction. And right then, I just said, okay, Lord. And he just walked me through some things and said, okay, here's how we walk through this, and here's the dangers. You know, he kind of used that metaphor of a construction site, of where the danger parts are, what do you need to do. And it just kind of put me on a journey, and I just said, okay, Lord.

[00:05:39] And then in another moment after that, I heard the Lord say to me so powerfully, he says, Jason, bringing Christine home is easy. I finally have you in a place that I have been waiting for, and I'm not going to wait for that opportunity. And I was just like, oh, okay, Lord. You know, like I trust you. But I was like, Lord, start with me. You know, start with me, whatever it is, whatever's going on.

[00:06:04] And so instead of me trying to defend myself and saying, I didn't do this, or this isn't as bad as it is, or this isn't, you know, I kind of stopped doing that. And I just said, Lord, I need you to start with me. And I was just saying to any of your listeners, whatever you're praying for, whatever you're believing for, of course God's going to do the miracle outside that believe. But, man, but what if we just say, start with me? You know, in our book that we wrote, the first chapter, the first day devotional is called, it's titled Nothing is Impossible with God. No, it's Luke 137.

[00:06:33] And it's about the power of God and what he can do. But the second day, very next, it says, start with me. And we've got to start with us. So that would be something I would tell you, let's trust the Lord, but also allow him to move because he has an amazing plan in your life. Let me just mention that, of course, it is a 40-day stand. I love the idea that you talk about construction because I just mentioned a minute ago you live in Waco. And a lot of people know about a couple that does a fixer-upper there in Waco.

[00:07:02] We've gotten national and international attention. And that is the case. But let me just, since we're going to a break, mention that we do have information about this. We have StandingSupernaturally.com. You don't even have to type all that out because we have that link there. And so you can find out more about the book. There is a lot more to this. There is a standing assessment quiz. There is all sorts of 40-day stand courses. There's just a lot of material. We're going to work through all of that as well.

[00:07:31] So as you might imagine, since we're talking about 40 days, there are 40 chapters. And each one of these chapters, interestingly enough, then begins to talk about biblical truths, various kinds of prayers. Then lies to recognize and reject, daily truths to declare, and even daily activations. So, again, we have spent some time with other books talking about what you could do over the next week, what you could do over the next month.

[00:07:59] Here is something you can do over the next 40 days. So we do have a link. First of all, you can go to it right now or you can simply go to the website, pointofview.net, and it will take you to Standingsupernaturally.com. You can see all the material that is there quite a bit, everything from quizzes and sermons to one-on-one counseling and much, much more. But also, some of you might want to see a video or two. So if you scroll down, you'll see a section that we take you to the YouTube channel for Standing Supernatural.

[00:08:29] I've watched one or two, and I would encourage you to do that as well. Maybe have your spouse watch those. And when we come back, we're going to work through our 40 days and see what we can do to turn around some of these marriages that we've been talking about here on Point of View. We'll be back right after this.

[00:08:58] This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson. As I mentioned a week ago, President Joe Biden warned of the rise of oligarchs in one of his farewell speeches before leaving office. Apparently, the issue of oligarchs and big tech leaders is a theme that some in Congress plan to use this year. Senator Elizabeth Warren and Senator Michael Bennett sent a letter to OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. They criticized him for contributing to President Donald Trump's inauguration fund.

[00:09:26] The senators reminded him that big tech companies have come under increased scrutiny from federal regulators. They expressed to him their concern that your company and other big tech donors are using your massive contributions to the inaugural fund to cozy up to the incoming Trump administration. Sam Altman was quick to reply on X. He said, funny, they never sent me one of these for contributing to Democrats.

[00:09:49] He went on to explain that this was his personal contribution, as you state, which is why he was confused about the questions given that my company did not make a decision. Both points are relevant. He didn't remember that any of his contributions to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris triggered such a letter. In fact, the editors of The Wall Street Journal reminded us that President Biden's 2020 inaugural brought in $62 million. And the presidential campaign for Kamala Harris raised over $1 billion.

[00:10:17] Second, he was making a personal contribution to the inauguration and had nothing to do with his company. Of course, the senators knew that but wanted to bully a big tech leader who has changed some of his giving habits. When most of big tech lined up behind Democrats, the Biden administration and Democrats in Congress were thrilled. Now that some are reconsidering their previous support, they're likely to get similar letters. I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view.

[00:10:46] For a free booklet on a biblical view on big data, go to viewpoints.info.com. That's viewpoints.info.com. You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. Once again, Jason Carver with us. And again, if you'd like to join the conversation later, feel free to give us a call, 1-800-351-1212.

[00:11:11] And again, we're talking about 40-day stand, a 40-day journey empowering you to stand supernaturally for marriage restoration. And Jason, before going any further, it might be good to talk about your own success story because in some respects I want to give people hope. And you have a whole section on testimonies of restoration, yours being one, but many other people. Because you know as well as I do, if you've ever been in ministry, and you are and I am,

[00:11:38] you run into people who say all the time, well, there's just nothing I can do. That's it. You know, it's broken. And I recognize that people are free moral agents. You can do everything right, and they walk off. Those of us that have had marriages or children or prodigal children or business associates or ministries or colleagues, even close friends that one way or another decide to make a choice that we don't agree with, you know, you can't do everything.

[00:12:06] But you do have some incredible stories of restoration, don't you? Absolutely. You know, our story is that. It is a God of resurrection as well. So I was standing and believing and praying that God would heal my marriage. And I was praying and had people praying and other pastors praying with me and believing that we wouldn't get divorced, that divorce would not be finalized. And so we just prayed and prayed and prayed and believed and believed and believed.

[00:12:33] But about a year and a half after almost two years of just kind of standing and waiting and being separated, the divorce did go through. And the state of Texas said that my marriage was dead. But, Kirby, nothing changed for me. I knew, okay, so it's just a small little change for me. Instead of praying for restoration, now I'm praying for resurrection. Because the very foundation of the gospel is what? The very basic of our faith is there was someone dead, but he rose again.

[00:13:03] And he overcame it. And I was like, okay, Lord, I'm believing for the power of your resurrection. And so I just stood and I just kept praying and I kept loving. And I just kept, you know, being whatever. I could be there for my spouse, for my wife. And then two short months later, Kirby, after the divorce was finalized, my wife came back home and we got remarried four days later. And now it's been almost eight, nine years now. And so, yeah, so our marriage was dead.

[00:13:28] So anyone who's listening to this and you're saying, well, my spouse is telling me to move on. My spouse is telling me we're never getting back together. And I'll tell you, Kirby, that was my story. You know, the famous song from, you know, the pop artist Taylor Swift, one of her big singles was, we're never, ever getting back together. I mean, that was my wife's anthem. She's like, we're never getting back. You're losing your mind. You're just optimistic. You're in la-la land. She told me God told her to divorce me. She told me that, you know, God, you know, is moving, you know, having us move on, going to give us something better.

[00:13:59] I heard everything, that it was never happening. But I just knew how to small whisper in my heart. I was like, God, this is what you do. And I just stood the course, stood the course. I kept loving. And God did the miracle. And so if anyone's listening and you're hearing from your spouse, and maybe there is someone else. My wife had someone else. She actually had a boyfriend the very day she came home. And we were remarried four days later. So I understand it might look dark. I understand it might look hopeless.

[00:14:26] But if I could tell you one thing, I believe the number one enemy, the number one thing the enemy is doing across marriages. And so many aspects of life. It's probably one word if I had a word, if I had to sum it up. I believe it is just hopelessness. Yes. That is what the enemy is trying to give. That's why my wife left. She just, she lost hope that we could be good again. She lost hope that we could be healed, that we could be restored, that the future could be better than the past. Why do people kind of move on from their relationship as well?

[00:14:56] Well, they lose hope that God can do the miracle. I mean, so, and there is something about the enemy throwing hopelessness. And here, I just want to encourage everyone. A verse that the Lord just showed me so much. It just jumped off the page. It was Psalm 71, 14 that says, Ask for me, I will always have hope. I will praise you more and more. And so I just want to encourage everyone to have encounter. Romans 15, 13 says, May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace.

[00:15:25] And so I want everyone to have hope. Nothing is impossible with God. And that's my story. We got remarried. We were divorced. It was dead. We have story after story. In the book, for the 40 days, every single day, we have a testimony of a marriage that was restored. Because it's not common. I mean, so, you know, serving on pastoral staff, I'm fully aware that even in the church, it's, you know, when we kind of, oh, divorce has happened or it's happening, we kind of turn into kind of shepherd mode, which is good, which is great. We want to shepherd.

[00:15:54] We want to comfort. We want to help people walk with God in the disaster. We get it. But I'm telling you, there is something else available that God is a God who restores and God who resurrects. And, yeah, and so we just believe it. We've seen it. And I just want to just let everyone know, fix your eyes to Jesus. Watch what he does. He's better than you think. I might just mention, too, the word hope shows up all the time. Of course, day 15, process of hope. Day 16, the price of hope. Day 18, day 19, always have hope.

[00:16:24] On and on and on. But I did not, when I was introducing, you mentioned that you also are board-certified Christian counselor, which brings us to day two that you mentioned just a minute ago. Because oftentimes, when you go to counseling, oftentimes they'll let you talk for a while about all the problems with your spouse or your colleague or your children or whatever. And they say, well, what are you going to do about it? And day two, as soon as you get past the nothing is impossible, day two is start with me.

[00:16:50] And so even if you could not change Christine's mind, God wanted to change you. And I think that's the first starting point, isn't it? It's a launching pad. And you said something so powerful, Kirby, about how I couldn't change Christine's mind. Well, Kirby, it's not from a lack of trying. Let me tell you that. I tried to take control. I did, you know, I put on my little junior Holy Spirit hat. I tried to convict her. I sent her sermons. I sent her Bible verses. I mean, I told her, you're a destroyer.

[00:17:20] I mean, I did everything. So I tried everything, and none of it worked. Because the Lord is like, Jason, I can do, I know my daughter. I can perfectly communicate with her. Bringing her back is easy, is what he told me. But I had you finally in a place. And he just revealed to me just that my areas of brokenness and the things that Christine told me about for years, you know, for years that she wasn't happy with in the marriage. And I just discounted it. Because I just didn't think it was that big of a deal.

[00:17:47] Or, you know, our personal story is just kind of, she thought I was angry. And she thought I was, you know, always just, you know, verbally abusive. And just, she was like, everything was so loud. And everything was, you know, I'm always upset and angry. And I'm like, I'm not angry. Because I'm over here like, you should see my dad. I mean, like, my dad, he was so loud. He was so angry. And he, and I kept comparing myself to my dad.

[00:18:16] And I kept just justifying. No, no, no, Chris, I'm not angry. I'm not upset. I'm just, you know, I'm just, I'm passionate. You know, whatever we want to call it. But I discounted it. And my wife was telling me, Jason, I don't feel, I don't, I don't like this. I don't like how you talk to me. I don't like how you're communicating. And I just discounted it. Because I was comparing myself to my dad. Christine, her dad, was the most soft-spoken, gentle man. Never raised his voice. And here I am, grew up in a loud Texas family. And I'm like, well, this is normal communication.

[00:18:44] But it was killing my wife inside. And what was my problem? I just discounted it. I was just saying, no, Chris, you're the problem. You're too emotional. You're too sensitive. And I just was breaking her heart more and more. And it was in my stand for restoration when I was once again complaining to God. And God, you know, she says I'm a level 10 anger. She thinks I'm so angry. And I remember telling God, I said, God, I'm not a level 10. I'm a level 2. You know that. And I heard the Lord tell me.

[00:19:14] I heard the Lord say, Jason, let's just put whether you are a 2, let's put that on the shelf for a second. Because that's very debatable. Let's not even go there. But then he told me this. Jason, you're confessing with me right now that you're a level 2 anger. And he says, I have called you to love your wife like I love the church. To love her perfectly with my love.

[00:19:41] Level 2 dysfunction is unacceptable if you want to represent me to my daughter. And he just convicted me. And I'm like, wow. And I just dropped the defenses out. I'm like, okay, Lord, help me. Ephesians 5.25. Help me love my wife like Christ loves the church. And I just dropped my defenses. I dropped what I wasn't doing. And I just started, okay, Lord, start with me, Lord. So powerful. We've got to do that. Yes. Let's take a break.

[00:20:09] And when we come back, we're going to talk about another issue. One, of course, is the issue of hope, which we just mentioned. But destroy. That word shows up a lot. But day six, Jesus came to destroy. And then whole chapters, which are based upon 2 Corinthians 10, 4 through 5, about the idea of destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God. Because not only do you need to change some things, you need to destroy some things. And you need to really replot the direction that your marriage might be going.

[00:20:39] So we're going to take a break. And when we come back, this would be a good time for you to, first of all, check out a few things. You can go to Standingsupernatural.com. And you'll notice that they even have a challenge coming up. And I think that would be something you might want to know about. There's counseling. There is a whole training hub. There's a quiz that you can begin with. And that's all available. Scroll down a little bit. You will also see that there is a link to their YouTube channel. And then you can watch some of the videos.

[00:21:08] And I think those will be very convicting as well. But we'll come back and continue our 40-day stand, a 40-day journey empowering you to stand supernaturally for marriage restoration. Our guest is Jason Carver. We'll continue with him right after this. The Bible tells us not to worry.

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[00:23:02] The opinions expressed on Point of View do not necessarily reflect the views of the management or staff of this station. And now, here again, is Kirby Anderson. Continue your conversation today with Jason Carver as we talk about 40-day stand, a 40-day journey empowering you to stand supernaturally for marriage restoration. And Jason, one of the things I wanted to focus on, we talked about hope, but it's amazing how many times the word destroy comes up. And, of course, that's a biblical concept as well.

[00:23:32] And every one of your chapters for every one of the days, you have a section called lies to recognize and reject. So it does seem to me that sometimes the problem isn't just that you need to change in terms of behavior. It is that you've accepted various, as again using Paul's idea, lofty things and various structures raised up against the knowledge of God.

[00:24:00] There is a real need for us to not only change our behavior but to change our mind. Absolutely. You said it so perfectly. We have to remember that we are in a spiritual battle. And there is an attack against you. There is an attack against our spouses. I mean, I don't need to – I mean, this isn't a great revelation to say that marriage is under attack under our nation and throughout the world. Why?

[00:24:28] Because the enemy hates marriages. And if you can think about it, just if you take a step back theologically, why is that? Well, that is the one institution that God compares this with him and his church. We are the bride of Christ. He's throwing a wedding feast of the Lamb. And so he says, love your spouses like Christ loves the church. So Jesus gives us this picture of marriages, and he's like, hey, this is how I love my people.

[00:24:54] And the enemy would love nothing more to destroy the very thing that cares – that Jesus cares the most about. And so he's after marriages, and he's after you. He's after your spouse. And he will do that, and he will tell us things in our mind. He will speak lies to us. He will open up those little thoughts, and just – he will absolutely do a number on us. And so we are called – 2 Corinthians, you know, chapter 10 you mentioned earlier.

[00:25:21] It tells us we don't walk in the flesh. You know, so we're not going to – though we walk in the flesh, we don't wage war according to the flesh. Where it says, for our weapons are not of the flesh. But here's the key. But has divine power to destroy. And that's what you said. So we've got to remember, yes, things are happening. And, yes, there's things in the natural that we need to change. And, yes, I absolutely had to learn how to be more compassionate, more loving, and a better husband, even though we were married for 15, 17, I forget how many years we were.

[00:25:51] Yes, I had to learn some stuff. But I also had to say, okay, what spiritual warfare is coming against my family, coming against me, coming against my wife, that I can take my divine power that God has given me to destroy the strongholds? Because so much of this is strongholds, thoughts that the enemy will put in my mind, thoughts that the enemy will put in our spouse's mind. And that's where it says, you know, we destroy strongholds and every lofty thing that's raised up.

[00:26:18] And then at the end of that verse, that's where we get the famous verse, take every thought captive. And it's so important. Let's get back to that because, of course, we've already talked about 2 Corinthians 10. But how about Ephesians 6? Because, again, Paul says the same thing that our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against rulers and against authorities and powers of the dark world. And so you have a chapter and a day in which you focus on knowing the enemy.

[00:26:44] But then you follow that up later with actually using peace as a weapon because in Romans 16, verse 20, it tells you that the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet. And so how does that all fit together? We certainly need to know our enemy. We certainly need to know spiritual warfare. But you want to talk about even using peace. Can you help us with that? Oh, absolutely. And it is a little backwards.

[00:27:10] I mean, it doesn't make sense to us because if we talk about destroying or going to war, the opposite is peace. But if you remember, things in the kingdom of God, they're a little upside down to the world. You know, what does Jesus say? If we want to be first, what do we have to be? We've got to be last. If we want to receive, what do we have to do? We give. And so we see this paradigm, this scripture, you know, just like it's upside down.

[00:27:34] And so it makes sense in the kingdom that the Lord tells us that the God of peace crushes. I mean, those words are right there next to each other. Peace crushes Satan. Absolutely. And so our battle is won by peace. And so what can that look like in your marriage? What can that look like? Well, the enemy wants so much for you and for me whenever our spouses do something that's upset us

[00:28:00] or do something that's just, you know, not good or not healthy, wants us to get angry, wants us to get vengeful, wants us to get mad. Especially maybe if you're in a situation like I was and maybe you're separated. Maybe you're divorced and maybe she is or he is with someone else. We want to get vengeful. We want to get this. And we want to just start, you know, God, give them judgment. God, show them this. And we forget. Wait a second. The scripture also says it's kindness that leads to repentance.

[00:28:26] And so we now come into the spirit realm and now I begin to bless those who persecute me, right? This is all biblical concepts that Jesus taught us. So I start going into the spirit realm and my weapons are not of this world. And the weapons of how we destroy Satan is the God of peace. I release peace over my wife. I release peace over them. The person that, you know, they might be involved with. God, I bless them. God, there is someone for them that you have a divine assignment and they're not my spouse, oh Lord.

[00:28:54] Out of just for their goodness. God, move them on away from my family so they can walk into their divine destiny. And now I'm partnering with the God of heaven who loves his children and no isn't happy what's going on. But now I'm releasing peace over them. And because the God of peace crushes the demonic hold. So I would just encourage every one of your listeners, yes, you don't have to like what's happening.

[00:29:18] And I know it's not fun, but I encourage you, watch what happens when we start releasing the shalom of heaven over our adversaries, over the negative situations. This is where I believe the standing, the supernatural part begins to come in. And now, then we find out this is how we get God really fighting for us. There's a scripture in the Old Testament, 2 Chronicles, where it says that the eyes of the Lord are searching to and fro throughout the whole earth to strongly support those whose hearts completely is.

[00:29:48] And I just believe that if we can just begin to live the love of Christ, begin to release the peace of God, begin to fight in the spirit realm and not just against our spouse, but pray over them and declare peace over them, declare hope over them, declare kindness over them. Because kindness leads to repentance. I believe the God who's searching throughout the earth, I believe he will find us and he will strongly support us. So spiritual warfare is real. It is there. But I'm telling you, the God of peace crushes Satan. Again, how to stand supernaturally for marriage restoration.

[00:30:18] And Jason, since we've talked about hope, we've talked about destroying, we've talked about peace, you did say something in passing. And that is some might find a situation where I can't actually change the circumstances because my spouse has gotten divorced. They've gotten remarried. But even when you're going through that, I was so grateful that you put a chapter in there on it's okay to grieve. Jesus did. And even this last week, I was with somebody who said, you know, I was grieving the loss of my husband. And then my sister was saying, well, no, you know, just get out of it.

[00:30:48] And I think grieving is certainly possible. It is inevitable. And it doesn't mean that you don't have faith or hope. It's just simply an understanding that grief is part of that process, too, isn't it? It is. I'm so glad you brought this up because that was a hiccup for me. If I'm going to be honest, when I was really standing and believing, I was almost resisting it because for me, I was linking incorrectly. I was linking grief with almost surrender. You know, like, oh, I guess it's not going to happen.

[00:31:17] I guess the miracle is not going to get in place. And then the Lord showed me in the passage of the story of, you know, the most famous, the shortest verse in the Bible is these two words. Jesus wept. Well, what did he weep over? Well, he wept over Lazarus, his friend dying. Well, what happens just a few verses later? He resurrects Lazarus. So I'm like, so did Jesus not know he was going to resurrect him and just he was emotional? And but but the Lord just said, no, no, no.

[00:31:44] Grief and weeping is just a natural part of how he created us. And remember, Jesus runs to the brokenhearted. He saves those crushed in spirit. So we are to agree. We are to pour out, pour out. You know, we cry out to the Lord in our anguish and he will meet us. He won't judge us. And it's really important. We don't push it down. We don't just ignore it. We don't deny that there's brokenness around us. We invite God into the brokenness. We don't deny our heart was broken. There's many nights during my stand that I did.

[00:32:14] I did cry myself to sleep. But what did I do? I was crying. Say, God, will you come in here with me? My wife is not next to me in bed. But will you be next to me in bed, God? And I felt the presence of Jesus come in and just hold me as I slept. So I agreed with the Lord. I wept with the Lord. And he met me there. And at the same time, I never stopped believing for me that this resurrection was possible. And it happened. So we don't have to link the two as grief and unbelief. We don't have to link them.

[00:32:43] Let me again take a break. And when we come back, we'll talk about how to use this book. Maybe some of the resources on the website. You might want to check that out. But again, 40 chapters. Each chapter has a whole section on standing on biblical truths. I've just given you a couple of the verses, but there are so many more. Then standing supernaturally in prayer, a suggested prayer. Then what we've just mentioned, lies to recognize and reject. Very important. Sometimes those are what keeps us from moving forward.

[00:33:11] Then daily truths to declare. Then daily activations for your stand. And then usually a testimony from a couple that has actually been through the program or has some kind of testimony in that regard. So if you would like to know more about that or if you know someone who would benefit from this, you can certainly take the time to go to the website, pointofview.net. Click on that red button that says watch or listen. Maybe send it on to them as well.

[00:33:37] But when we come back, Jason's going to talk about how we can use these materials on the website and on his book. We'll talk about that right after this. You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth.

[00:34:07] Back once again while we're talking about 40 Day Stand and Jason Carver with us. And Jason, we might for just a few minutes have you talk about what is on the website and some of the resources that people might want to take advantage of. Absolutely, yeah. So as we mentioned, there's an assessment of just, as we call it, the standing for your marriage assessment. Just to see how you're doing. Maybe you're in this situation and you're believing for your marriage to be healed and restored. It's just a quick little 20, quick fun little question to ask. How are we doing on that?

[00:34:36] You know, how are we doing? And so there's a quiz you can take there. We've got all the videos there. We have access to our training hub. We call that training hub. That's just kind of a Netflix-style site we built. It's got all types of videos and resources and downloads, and our courses are all there. And then, of course, we have our YouTube channel that has pretty much the same videos that are on our training hub if you want to access that. We do have a resource coming up that I'd love to mention in just less than three weeks. It's just the perfect timing to be on the show.

[00:35:05] So we do something called the Standing for Your Marriage Five-Day Challenge, and that's where we do a live event, five days of live preaching and handouts and workbooks. And that just take you through really just standing for your marriage and how to really walk in power and hope. And that actually begins on the February 24th, and they're on the website, and you can register for that. And so it's just we do this only twice a year, and so we would love for anyone who just wants more hope for their marriage to be restored. Can it really happen?

[00:35:35] Man, I'd invite you to join us for our Standing for Your Marriage Five-Day Challenge, and that's right there on the website, standingsupernaturally.com. And we also have – I'd love to give your listeners a free gift. It's a handout of 40 individual prayers and declarations that you can pray over your spouse, and you can just go to standingsupernaturally.com slash gift, G-I-F-T.

[00:35:59] And for all your listeners, you can download just a PDF for free and just give you 40 prayers and declarations that you can begin to pray and declare over your spouse. They're all based on biblical verses. And so we're just here. Our passion is to equip. Our passion is to train. And we want to release and impart hope that God is restoring marriages. No matter how bad it looks, this is what he's doing. And if we can walk alongside you just to empower you, be a voice of encouragement, point to you the scripture of how good God is, that's our mission.

[00:36:28] So our website has all that available. This week, Ken, talk about how people can use this because obviously if you're already in a situation of crisis, you may have to go through this book on your own. If there's a willing spouse, the two of you can go through it together. And so I'd love to have you talk about that. But then just a minute, I also want to talk about maybe you're just engaged and you're thinking, well, I probably don't need this.

[00:36:55] But anyway, maybe we should go through this now just to avoid any kind of 10,000 or 20,000 wheel alignment checkup that we might want to do or something like that. So talk about how different kinds of groups and individuals and spouses and partners can go through this. Absolutely, yeah. So when we wrote the book, the main thing we wanted, and we've said the word many times, is we just want to impart hope. We want to point people to Jesus.

[00:37:22] We want to point people into the power that he possesses and how God does transform even broken situations. And so if you're in it right now by yourself and your spouse has left you or they're massive distance, maybe the divorce is going through. Maybe it's happened. Like for me, we did get divorced. And you're like, can God really heal my marriage? I'm telling you, give us 40 days and get into the word, get into the book, get into the devotionals. Let's break off the lies that I'm sure the devil's telling you.

[00:37:49] And I know he told me these lies, and we just got to break them off and watch hope being part of it. And then for the couples out there, we understand there's tough times. There are difficulties. And we need to know that God is for this. We need to hear the testimony that God did restore. God did heal these things, and these are the tools that really you guys can stay hopeful that you guys are going to get through this. And the stats are actually on our side. God is restoring families. God is healing marriages. It's there.

[00:38:17] It's not talked about a lot, but it is happening. It is becoming more mainstream. So we want to impart the families who just want to keep building their faith, hey, let's stay encouraged. This is what God is doing. Hey, these are some openings that we want to make sure we're not giving the enemy as well. And I think the same thing for those engaged. You could read that and just get encouraged about that as well. But that's what the book is there for. We're here to empower you.

[00:38:41] We've actually right now, and it will probably get released next month, but we've actually just turned the book into a video small group curriculum with a workbook and a leader's guide for churches. We've had churches ask us, they want something as an alternative to divorce care. They're like, you know, is there something else? Maybe someone's going through divorce, but what if they're still believing for restoration? There's really nothing in churches. So we've developed it. There's a video. It's a teaching for me. It's a nine-week video curriculum workbook.

[00:39:11] Everything involved that I know that's about to get released for curriculum, for churches to have as an alternative to divorce care. And I've heard some, even as maybe a prerequisite for divorce care. Hey, before you do divorce care, how about you do this first? And let's see if God might give you some hope. Could God heal this? And so we just want to empower people to look to God. He is the restorer. He has given all of us the ministry of reconciliation, 2 Corinthians 5.18. We all have it. And so we just want to help you and empower people to walk it out. Yes.

[00:39:40] Again, you're fulfilling a need that I think has always been there, and I really appreciate that. And let's end with that because you talk about the fact in one of your chapters there, 2 Corinthians 5.14, the fact that it is not your love but Christ. And even earlier you talk about not by might but by his spirit from Zachariah. So even though we've been talking about the fact that we're talking about standing supernaturally for marriage restoration, this is more than a self-help book.

[00:40:08] It is a dependence upon the Holy Spirit in your life to change individuals, yours first and your spouse's next. And so, again, I think it's important to recognize that this is more than just a to-do list. It is certainly being dependent upon him to bring about healing and restoration. Absolutely. You mentioned the verse. It says it's Christ's love that moves us. It's Christ's love. It's the love of Jesus inside you and me that's going to change the situation.

[00:40:38] What's going to change my spouse's heart to come back when they begin to feel the love of Christ coming from me, when I begin to love them truly? And maybe you've lost hope. Maybe you haven't been the best spouse. And maybe you have been a little bit of a jerk. Okay, well, let's now, God, I need your love to fill me up. And that is, and I'm so glad you mentioned it because that's everything we're standing on. This is not in our own strength.

[00:41:01] We are completely reliant, and I'll be the first to say, we are completely reliant on the power of Jesus and the Holy Spirit to come and transform this thing. And so we just want to learn, okay, well, how can I tap into that? How can I surrender it more? And how can you flow through me with greater power? And how can I be filled with the love of Christ? One of the verses I just love, I'll just, we can wrap up with this if you like. In Genesis, it mentions of how he served for seven years. He got his wife seven years.

[00:41:30] How did he serve? Because of his love for her. That's what the Bible says. He waited seven years. Well, he actually waited more than that. He got seven years, and he got tricked into marrying the wrong one. And then, yeah. I mean, so, but he says, how did he do it? He says, and then here's what the Scripture says. It felt like just a few short days, and as a comma, because of his love for her. If we can fall in love by Christ's love that powerful, I'm telling you, everything can change.

[00:42:00] Jason Carver, thank you so very much, first of all, for sharing your own testimony. Thank you for writing the book. Thank you for making available to our listeners some of the free material. And you can go to the website, standingsupernaturally.com. Don't even have to remember all that. It's our first link on our website at pointofview.net. Jason, thank you for what you do. And, again, we wish our listeners to take the time to apply some of these principles and to restore their marriages. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you for having me.

[00:42:29] We are going to take a break. But just before we do so, let me just mention that, again, we have information about the book. We have information on the website. And if you want to begin to restore a marriage or maybe just even avoid some of the pitfalls, it would be certainly a resource that we wanted to put in your hands. That's why we've devoted an hour today talking about 40 Day Stand.

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