Tuesday, December 31, 2024
Welcome to our year end show with host Kerby Anderson. His co-host is our own Penna Dexter. Topics for discussion include the ongoing fight for Religious Liberty, 2024 in review, and they’ll discuss plans for 2025.
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[00:00:04] Across America, Live, this is Point of View Anderson.
[00:00:20] Second hour today and last hour of our broadcast of 2024, coming down to the end.
[00:00:26] Pennedexter here as well as we brought back in an individual that you have certainly heard from over the many years, Warren Kelly, who is the president of Point of View.
[00:00:36] And Warren, last hour in case people are just joining us, we did talk about the fact that we met the match and now we have a $20,000, right?
[00:00:45] We do. We have a new match. It's $20,000.
[00:00:48] So we have still the opportunity for you to double your gift giving to Point of View as long as it is today because this is only good for today.
[00:00:57] So we are so far, we've raised about, had about $2,000 that's come in toward the 20.
[00:01:03] So we've got a little ways to go so we could really use your support.
[00:01:06] We could use your help and would really love to hear from you.
[00:01:10] We've been talking about all these opportunities that the new year brings and there are a lot of them.
[00:01:16] And we talked about praying, but behind the prayer, we need people to actually dig deep.
[00:01:22] And, you know, this is the chunk that we're supposed to bite off today. Let's do it. Let's bite it off.
[00:01:27] Yes. I would think so.
[00:01:29] And again, we might just for a minute, Warren, talk about this because Kelly was going into with some detail what he wants to do
[00:01:36] and about the fact that there are going to be some significant challenges and changes, not the least of which he didn't mention,
[00:01:42] but we maybe can talk about that on Friday.
[00:01:44] Some people, Penn, as you well know, that we've known that at First Liberty there will be other places,
[00:01:49] and we're excited about that. But at the same time, those are some opportunities for him.
[00:01:54] What about our opportunities? Because we certainly do want people to know where their financial investment is going.
[00:02:00] Yes. That's one of the greatest frustrations of my job is seeing so many opportunities that we have to expand the reach of the ministry,
[00:02:08] to impact more people and bring truth to the nation and not having the resources to do them and just having to pass on the opportunities.
[00:02:16] So we have a number of opportunities going into the new year.
[00:02:20] We have in the last year really expanded our online presence and are doing a lot more to reach that younger demographic
[00:02:29] that we have not been as effective at reaching as we have in the past.
[00:02:33] And that's a tremendous opportunity that we have the new year to expand it even more.
[00:02:37] We have just, I could spend all day telling you about all the opportunities that we have online.
[00:02:43] But there's still, even in traditional radio, terrestrial radio, there are opportunities for us to expand and to grow.
[00:02:50] But again, we need the funds to do that.
[00:02:53] So we need your support.
[00:02:54] As a matter of fact, to even illustrate that, if you have access to any social media,
[00:02:58] and it could be either Facebook or it could be Instagram.
[00:03:02] Right now you will see a video that has been done already by our Vice President of Stewardship,
[00:03:09] Jana Weidler, and she's out there in Colorado with a pipe seat behind her.
[00:03:13] And then we also now have posted one by Liberty McCarter.
[00:03:16] And so these are available.
[00:03:18] And I think just a good illustration of, number one, what we are trying to produce more of,
[00:03:23] and also can give you another very good justification for why Point & View needs your support.
[00:03:28] Yes.
[00:03:30] There's no excuse, really, for not being informed today because you have so many outlets.
[00:03:35] But we would like, in a sense, you know, we've been talking in the first hour about some of the distortions
[00:03:41] that the media has allowed over the last four years, the last administration and before that.
[00:03:46] And we're the answer.
[00:03:48] I mean, a point of view because we are reliable, we're truthful, and we amass so much information
[00:03:54] that is relevant to the audience that we attract.
[00:03:58] And so, you know, that takes time.
[00:04:00] It takes money.
[00:04:02] We love it.
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[00:04:05] But as Warren has said, we need the support to do so.
[00:04:09] We do.
[00:04:10] And as Penna said, you can rely on what you hear on Point of View.
[00:04:13] I know for a fact that Kirby and Penna do the homework.
[00:04:16] They do the research.
[00:04:18] And if they're telling you something on Point of View, you can take that to the bank.
[00:04:22] That is true.
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[00:04:27] There is dozens of new articles every day giving you more resources that back these things up that you can take and use to support your argument.
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[00:04:53] So it's a tremendous opportunity for your investment, and today it can be doubled.
[00:04:58] You know, one of the things I've noticed is that sometimes we've just recently had Paul Baraka in here,
[00:05:03] and he was talking about this very excellent speaker that he was hearing,
[00:05:08] and he was telling us that we should get him on the program.
[00:05:11] And that's when my producer, Steve Miller, said, oh, yeah, we booked him for two weeks from Monday.
[00:05:15] And just the other day I was hearing about this book on Utopia, and I thought, boy, that would be a really good interview.
[00:05:21] And then Penna did the interview on that.
[00:05:22] And so sometimes you'll hear about something for the first time on Point of View because we are really working to talk about that.
[00:05:30] Even yesterday we talked about H-1B visas.
[00:05:33] You're probably not hearing that everywhere.
[00:05:35] So, Penna, lots of times, not only in terms of being cutting edge, but also getting the depth to get into some of these issues.
[00:05:41] That's what Point of View is all about.
[00:05:42] Absolutely.
[00:05:43] And I think we have people, you know, I'm not always sure, but it seems like we have people that are willing to take the next step to help,
[00:05:50] either through their finances because they know that they can't go out and give this information to people, but they can support us and we can.
[00:05:59] Or so through their finances and other ways, I just think it's important that that motivation stay there for people,
[00:06:07] and they have a reliable place they can go.
[00:06:10] We have more than one place now that they can go where they can hear what we have to say about it.
[00:06:14] And Kirby, I just have to say, too, you've been so faithful over the years.
[00:06:17] I think that's a big part of the trustworthiness of Point of View.
[00:06:21] But even beyond being reliable and in-depth information, it's always looked at from a biblical perspective.
[00:06:28] So we're looking at what you can do to apply your faith in the culture into literally every area of life.
[00:06:34] There is nothing off the table that Point of View doesn't cover.
[00:06:38] Point of View talks about everything out there and does so from a biblical perspective, teaching you how to apply your faith.
[00:06:45] I might just mention that when we come back from the break, we're going to be talking about this piece on the dream world of Joe Biden.
[00:06:52] And also it just illustrates again as we go through some of this what we've been through for the last four years.
[00:06:58] And as Warren, Kelly and I and Jana and others go out and meet some of our donors,
[00:07:03] the one thing I hear all the time is I'm concerned about the future of this country.
[00:07:07] And these problems don't go away January 20th.
[00:07:11] As a matter of fact, this incoming president is going to inherit some very significant foreign policy challenges,
[00:07:17] some very significant economic challenges.
[00:07:20] But if nothing else, maybe people are feeling a little bit more optimistic.
[00:07:23] And I hope that that would also encourage people to give.
[00:07:26] I hope so.
[00:07:27] There's probably an opportunity this year that there's never been before.
[00:07:32] As an important opportunity is this where things are aligned in a way that we can we can make some great accomplishments.
[00:07:39] And so, you know, I want to encourage you.
[00:07:42] I think it's a great reason for optimism and you can be part of it.
[00:07:45] Well, again, we're going to take a break and then we come back and get into some other issues in the news.
[00:07:49] Pentatextra and I will still be here.
[00:07:51] And I might just mention that you can give us a call.
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[00:07:58] I've noticed that sometimes people don't call except when we're not on the air during a break.
[00:08:03] And so that would be a good time to make that phone call.
[00:08:05] We have people standing by and, as I mentioned, even my wife is standing by.
[00:08:09] I mention that more because sometimes they'll say, well, my name's on the screen.
[00:08:13] She says, no, I'm not on a screen.
[00:08:15] I'm just answering the phone here, you know, but I'm trying to help out.
[00:08:18] So we're putting everybody to work to take your phone call.
[00:08:21] And if you would want to make that call, that's 800-347-5151.
[00:08:26] Of course, the website is pointofview.net.
[00:08:28] We do have another $20,000 matching challenge still up there as well.
[00:08:33] And this is the last hour, the last day, last year.
[00:08:38] So we encourage you to make that call right now or go to the website.
[00:08:42] When we come back, Penn and I have some things to talk about, including your commentary.
[00:08:46] All that coming up right after this.
[00:08:58] This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson.
[00:09:02] The U.S. faces a significant threat from communist China.
[00:09:05] Gordon Chang goes into disturbing detail about this threat in his new book,
[00:09:09] Plan Red, China's Project to Destroy America.
[00:09:12] It is a sobering warning about the plans China has developed so that it will be the one superpower for the rest of the century.
[00:09:19] China is preparing for war.
[00:09:21] But Gordon Chang explains that this would not just be an unrestricted war or even political war.
[00:09:25] This would be a hot war initiated to destroy the U.S. and its influence around the world.
[00:09:30] China is also waging a campaign against America and American values.
[00:09:34] The goal is to destroy American society.
[00:09:37] It is working to accomplish this goal by using both forces outside of the country as well as forces deployed inside the country.
[00:09:44] In one of his chapters, Killing Americans, Gordon Chang explains that China has been able to penetrate American society,
[00:09:51] that the Communist Party has been able to kill Americans with impunity.
[00:09:54] As you might imagine, he also talks about the pandemic.
[00:09:58] The virus was from China and has devastated other countries around the world.
[00:10:02] Meanwhile, a Chinese spy balloon drifted over the U.S. without any major response from the current administration.
[00:10:08] One of his final chapters describes China's war plans.
[00:10:11] He warns that Xi Jinping cannot stop talking about going into battle with the U.S.
[00:10:16] Of course, he is doing more than just talking.
[00:10:18] He has implemented the largest and fastest military buildup since the Second World War.
[00:10:24] He is stockpiling grain and other commodities.
[00:10:26] He is surveying America for strikes and sabotage.
[00:10:29] He is mobilizing China's civilians for battle.
[00:10:32] His final chapter details what America must do now.
[00:10:36] I pray that the incoming administration is taking note.
[00:10:39] I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view.
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[00:11:04] Back once again, if you'd like to make that call, 800-347-5151.
[00:11:08] But I thought that as you sometimes want to do year in review,
[00:11:12] and Penna and I have done those over the years here at Point of View,
[00:11:15] this one article gives you a little bit of an idea
[00:11:18] because the author talks about sort of the dream world,
[00:11:22] and it's just a little bit of a reminder, Penna,
[00:11:24] of what we've been dealing with in the past in terms of inflation,
[00:11:29] in terms of some of the other concerns that we've had about the border
[00:11:33] and about foreign policy.
[00:11:35] But he also said something that I would have gotten Kelly's comment on.
[00:11:38] And we might get to it again.
[00:11:40] That is that he's now confirmed 235 federal judges
[00:11:45] surpassing the number of judicial confirmations
[00:11:48] during President Donald Trump's administration.
[00:11:50] And these judges, as we just talked about a minute ago,
[00:11:54] will be there for a long time.
[00:11:56] And I think it's clear to say that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
[00:12:00] will pick different kind of judges than, say, Donald Trump
[00:12:04] or even some of the other people in his administration in the past.
[00:12:08] And so this, I think, illustrates that these issues
[00:12:12] that might be resolved when Donald Trump puts his hand on a Bible,
[00:12:16] takes the oath of office on January 20th,
[00:12:20] don't go away.
[00:12:21] Some of the lingering problems will continue on for some time.
[00:12:25] Kelly made the point that this time,
[00:12:27] since there's more of a margin in the United States Senate
[00:12:31] starting next in January, just in a few days,
[00:12:36] that it will be the bold appointments will be more possible for judges.
[00:12:41] And that goes down.
[00:12:43] I mean, that's going to happen with the lower course
[00:12:45] before it ever happens if it does happen in the Supreme Court.
[00:12:48] So that's going to be good.
[00:12:50] I mean, 235 judges is a lot.
[00:12:52] And Biden, we were talking about his dream world,
[00:12:56] and you posted an article from Town Hall on that.
[00:12:58] I thought it was very interesting.
[00:13:00] He, it was like last Monday, a week ago Monday,
[00:13:05] he signed 50 pieces of legislation.
[00:13:08] I mean, presidents do try to sort of, I don't know,
[00:13:12] make it harder for the incoming president
[00:13:15] if it's the opposite party.
[00:13:16] And he's definitely doing that.
[00:13:18] And when, you know, he talked about his character and the meanness.
[00:13:20] I see so much meanness in this,
[00:13:23] but 50 pieces of legislation that Biden signed,
[00:13:27] then these 235 new judges,
[00:13:29] and they really ramped up the pace here at the end.
[00:13:32] And also the economic policies
[00:13:37] and the statements about his policies
[00:13:41] with the spin on it that, first of all,
[00:13:45] I should have been reelected.
[00:13:47] That was a mistake of the Democrats to, you know, throw me out.
[00:13:51] It would have been so,
[00:13:52] I probably would have won if I'd stayed in the race,
[00:13:54] all of that kind of delusional dream,
[00:13:57] dream.
[00:13:58] But the other part is that we have immigration
[00:14:01] and economic policies that have been disastrous for our country.
[00:14:09] Inflation due to spending,
[00:14:11] his spending,
[00:14:12] because there was a lot of spending done in COVID
[00:14:14] and no more needed to be done on COVID,
[00:14:17] but it was.
[00:14:18] So inflation really ramped up then.
[00:14:20] Also, so that's resulted in Americans taking on more debt
[00:14:24] because they can't,
[00:14:26] I mean, do you remember at the end or during COVID,
[00:14:29] during the thick of it,
[00:14:30] people had more money.
[00:14:31] For some reason,
[00:14:32] a lot of Americans had more money.
[00:14:33] They weren't spending it.
[00:14:35] They weren't,
[00:14:35] credit card balances were being paid off.
[00:14:38] Well, how quickly it's changed
[00:14:39] because things are so expensive because of inflation.
[00:14:42] They can't afford Christmas.
[00:14:44] People took on more debt in Christmas this year
[00:14:46] than they have other years.
[00:14:48] There's been this increase in housing prices
[00:14:50] and if you own a house,
[00:14:51] that's great for you.
[00:14:52] But for a whole generation of young people,
[00:14:56] for retirees who would like to get out of their home,
[00:15:00] sell it and get something smaller,
[00:15:02] to get something smaller is,
[00:15:04] you know,
[00:15:04] way more expensive now
[00:15:05] and they maybe can't afford it.
[00:15:06] So it's really,
[00:15:07] it's gummed up the system and the economy
[00:15:11] and we do have issues.
[00:15:13] And then the other issue is because of the,
[00:15:15] partially because of inflation
[00:15:17] and also the culture of,
[00:15:19] I think,
[00:15:20] easy drugs.
[00:15:21] We've got so much homelessness.
[00:15:23] So these are some of the things,
[00:15:25] I mean,
[00:15:25] when Joe Biden tries to paint this dream world,
[00:15:31] they're not,
[00:15:32] he's not dealing with reality
[00:15:34] partly because he's just political
[00:15:36] and partly because I don't even think he's aware
[00:15:38] of the devastation that had been caused
[00:15:41] by some of his policies.
[00:15:43] Well,
[00:15:43] again,
[00:15:43] you mentioned the economic ones.
[00:15:45] He is convinced
[00:15:46] and some of the people
[00:15:47] that have been in his administration
[00:15:49] are convinced
[00:15:49] that we can spend money
[00:15:50] and it has no net effect.
[00:15:52] Right.
[00:15:53] And this article goes on to remind us
[00:15:55] that during his time in office,
[00:15:57] we have increased the national debt
[00:16:00] by $8.5 trillion.
[00:16:02] Now,
[00:16:04] you and I are old enough to remember
[00:16:05] that when we finally reached
[00:16:07] a trillion dollars in national debt,
[00:16:09] that was just shortly after Jimmy Carter
[00:16:12] left office
[00:16:13] and during the Ronald Reagan administration
[00:16:16] and at the time we were lamenting
[00:16:18] that we'd accumulated
[00:16:19] $1 trillion of national debt
[00:16:22] from George Washington to Ronald Reagan
[00:16:24] and we were lamenting that.
[00:16:26] Now we added $8.5 trillion
[00:16:28] to the national debt
[00:16:30] just under Joe Biden's four years
[00:16:34] and the impact that that can have
[00:16:36] is that Donald Trump
[00:16:37] is inheriting a problem
[00:16:39] and this is an article
[00:16:40] which maybe we'll post for Friday
[00:16:42] in which Donald Trump has even said
[00:16:44] if we don't turn a few things around,
[00:16:46] we could face a depression
[00:16:48] that looks a little bit like 1929
[00:16:51] and that sort of got my attention
[00:16:53] but you have even right now
[00:16:54] the Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen
[00:16:57] saying that they are going to have
[00:16:58] to take extraordinary means
[00:17:00] if we don't find a way
[00:17:02] to increase the national debt,
[00:17:04] the debt ceiling.
[00:17:04] That's an issue.
[00:17:06] You have housing starts
[00:17:07] that are dropping dramatically
[00:17:09] and again,
[00:17:10] this one goes into more
[00:17:12] than just the economic issues
[00:17:13] but again,
[00:17:14] as you pointed out
[00:17:15] just a minute ago,
[00:17:16] we found that
[00:17:17] this holiday season
[00:17:19] more than a third of Americans
[00:17:21] incurred an average debt
[00:17:22] of more than $1,000
[00:17:23] for their Christmas gifts
[00:17:25] more than 13% higher
[00:17:27] and we now recognize
[00:17:29] that more than a quarter
[00:17:31] or 28% of Americans
[00:17:32] have not paid off the balances
[00:17:34] from their purchases.
[00:17:36] That's what it looks like.
[00:17:38] This is what it looks like
[00:17:39] when people are really struggling
[00:17:41] and if you have
[00:17:43] even a little bit
[00:17:44] of an economic downturn
[00:17:46] after Donald Trump
[00:17:47] has been in office
[00:17:48] a month or two,
[00:17:49] everybody's going to be
[00:17:50] pointing fingers at him
[00:17:51] but they should be
[00:17:52] pointing fingers
[00:17:53] on what's been happening
[00:17:53] over the last four years,
[00:17:55] don't you think?
[00:17:55] They should
[00:17:56] and I think that's
[00:17:57] part of the reason
[00:17:58] behind all these
[00:17:59] public statements
[00:17:59] that are being made.
[00:18:00] It was funny,
[00:18:01] the Wall Street Journal
[00:18:02] had a little editorial,
[00:18:03] regrets,
[00:18:03] Biden has too few
[00:18:04] and the things
[00:18:06] that he regrets
[00:18:06] are the wrong things.
[00:18:08] I mean,
[00:18:08] our communication strategy
[00:18:09] was wrong.
[00:18:10] Well, how about
[00:18:10] your policies being wrong?
[00:18:12] And, you know,
[00:18:13] I do hope
[00:18:14] that this kind of vibe shift
[00:18:15] that people have noticed,
[00:18:18] the optimism,
[00:18:19] the idea that,
[00:18:20] you know,
[00:18:22] people just don't,
[00:18:24] they've heard
[00:18:24] Bidenomics is good
[00:18:25] so long
[00:18:26] and they've seen
[00:18:27] that it's not.
[00:18:28] So some of that stuff
[00:18:29] is starting to sink in
[00:18:30] and I'm hoping now
[00:18:32] that, you know,
[00:18:34] the optimism
[00:18:35] just doesn't kind of
[00:18:36] fritter away
[00:18:37] and drain out
[00:18:38] of the national psyche
[00:18:40] but instead
[00:18:41] that it turns into
[00:18:42] just pulling up
[00:18:44] your bootstraps
[00:18:46] and getting to work
[00:18:47] in whatever place
[00:18:49] in the culture
[00:18:50] in your family
[00:18:51] in ministry
[00:18:52] or whatever
[00:18:52] God has given you
[00:18:54] go with optimism.
[00:18:56] I mean,
[00:18:56] at least you're not
[00:18:57] going to be hamstrung
[00:18:58] by restrictions
[00:18:59] on your religious liberty,
[00:19:01] restrictions
[00:19:01] because you're,
[00:19:02] you know,
[00:19:03] one race
[00:19:04] and not another.
[00:19:05] You have opportunities here
[00:19:07] and so,
[00:19:08] you know,
[00:19:08] we want to encourage you
[00:19:10] in the power
[00:19:11] of the Holy Spirit
[00:19:12] to go out
[00:19:13] and do whatever
[00:19:13] God has for you to do.
[00:19:14] That's another thing
[00:19:15] I hear from people.
[00:19:16] not only have I been
[00:19:17] concerned about
[00:19:17] the future of the country
[00:19:18] but I love to listen
[00:19:19] to point of view
[00:19:20] because I have some hope
[00:19:21] because if I didn't
[00:19:22] listen to point of view
[00:19:23] I wouldn't know
[00:19:23] that we'd had all these
[00:19:24] religious liberty victories.
[00:19:25] I wouldn't know
[00:19:26] that we've been able
[00:19:27] to turn some things around
[00:19:29] in terms of the fact
[00:19:30] that DEI is starting
[00:19:31] to die,
[00:19:32] D-I-E
[00:19:33] and some things like that
[00:19:35] and all sorts of others
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[00:19:37] I think,
[00:19:37] going to be important
[00:19:38] in this next year
[00:19:39] because we're going to,
[00:19:40] I think,
[00:19:41] see the administration
[00:19:42] hitting the ground running.
[00:19:43] I don't think
[00:19:44] Tom Holman's going to be
[00:19:44] waiting to deport individuals
[00:19:46] and don't think
[00:19:48] that Vivette Ramashwamy
[00:19:49] and Elon Musk
[00:19:50] are going to wait
[00:19:51] too long
[00:19:51] before they start
[00:19:52] talking about
[00:19:52] whole areas
[00:19:53] of the government
[00:19:54] to cut
[00:19:54] and we're going to be
[00:19:55] dealing with a lot
[00:19:56] of things simultaneously
[00:19:57] and so again
[00:19:58] that's one of the reasons
[00:19:59] why as we come
[00:20:00] to a break
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[00:20:09] spend a little bit of time
[00:20:10] just talking about
[00:20:11] the two commentaries
[00:20:11] we've posted today.
[00:20:13] Mine is a little bit
[00:20:14] discouraging
[00:20:14] because we talk
[00:20:15] about China
[00:20:16] but we talk
[00:20:16] about those things too
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[00:23:20] there was another
[00:23:21] part of what
[00:23:22] we've talked about
[00:23:23] here at Point of View
[00:23:24] and that is
[00:23:24] these commentaries
[00:23:26] and Penna
[00:23:26] you know how
[00:23:27] difficult it is
[00:23:28] to write a weekly
[00:23:29] commentary
[00:23:29] or in my case
[00:23:30] a daily commentary
[00:23:31] but I think
[00:23:32] these have been
[00:23:32] so helpful
[00:23:33] because so many
[00:23:34] people appreciate
[00:23:35] the fact that
[00:23:36] we give them
[00:23:37] some bite-sized
[00:23:39] ideas or information
[00:23:40] and the one
[00:23:41] we've posted
[00:23:42] today
[00:23:43] is disappearing
[00:23:44] dining rooms
[00:23:45] and as soon as
[00:23:46] I saw it
[00:23:46] I wrote back
[00:23:47] and said
[00:23:47] oh how true
[00:23:48] and you've had
[00:23:49] other people react
[00:23:49] as well
[00:23:50] because you say
[00:23:51] on Christmas Day
[00:23:51] as I rushed
[00:23:52] to set up
[00:23:52] my dining room
[00:23:53] table
[00:23:54] I felt a strange
[00:23:55] sense of gratitude
[00:23:56] for the table
[00:23:57] and for the dining room
[00:23:59] because there's an article
[00:24:00] in The Atlantic
[00:24:01] talking about the fact
[00:24:02] that you know
[00:24:03] Americans now tend
[00:24:04] to eat in spaces
[00:24:04] that double as
[00:24:05] kitchens or living rooms
[00:24:06] and that whole idea
[00:24:07] of having a dining room
[00:24:08] has kind of changed
[00:24:09] hasn't it?
[00:24:09] It's changed
[00:24:11] and it's really changed
[00:24:12] and we don't live
[00:24:13] as formally anymore
[00:24:14] that's one thing
[00:24:15] that's true
[00:24:15] but this
[00:24:16] think of our mothers
[00:24:17] yeah think of our mothers
[00:24:19] and I actually adopt
[00:24:20] some of the things
[00:24:20] that my mother did
[00:24:21] I try to put a few
[00:24:22] of them in
[00:24:22] but a lot of times
[00:24:24] it's just easier
[00:24:24] to make things
[00:24:25] much more casual
[00:24:26] this author though
[00:24:27] at The Atlantic
[00:24:28] wrote this piece
[00:24:29] in The Atlantic
[00:24:31] his name is
[00:24:31] M. Nolan Gray
[00:24:32] and he's a city planner
[00:24:34] and he's also concerned
[00:24:35] sort of about
[00:24:36] the culture
[00:24:37] and so
[00:24:38] you know
[00:24:39] kind of the
[00:24:39] phenomenon of loneliness
[00:24:41] which is increasing
[00:24:42] in the country
[00:24:43] and so
[00:24:44] that's why
[00:24:45] he wrote about it
[00:24:45] and I thought
[00:24:46] it was
[00:24:46] so interesting
[00:24:47] it's just
[00:24:48] I read it last summer
[00:24:49] and it just kind of
[00:24:49] came back into my mind
[00:24:50] I went and found it
[00:24:52] at Christmas time
[00:24:53] when you are
[00:24:53] entertaining more
[00:24:55] and what's happening now
[00:24:56] because he also
[00:24:57] interviewed
[00:24:59] a real estate
[00:25:00] sort of person
[00:25:01] that
[00:25:02] this person
[00:25:04] specializes
[00:25:05] in how places
[00:25:06] are laid out
[00:25:06] as they're built
[00:25:07] and we are
[00:25:09] certainly
[00:25:09] in a demographic
[00:25:10] area
[00:25:11] where you have
[00:25:12] smaller and smaller
[00:25:13] families
[00:25:13] I mean maybe
[00:25:14] in the Christian world
[00:25:15] if you go to church
[00:25:16] you're not seeing it
[00:25:18] but in the culture
[00:25:19] really families
[00:25:20] are getting smaller
[00:25:21] there's more
[00:25:22] single people
[00:25:23] living
[00:25:23] all by themselves
[00:25:25] than ever before
[00:25:26] and it's
[00:25:27] growing
[00:25:28] and so
[00:25:29] some of these
[00:25:30] newer places
[00:25:31] are built with nothing
[00:25:32] I mean they don't even
[00:25:33] have like
[00:25:33] a little space
[00:25:35] off the kitchen
[00:25:36] or maybe they don't
[00:25:37] even have an island
[00:25:38] a lot of them
[00:25:39] you just really
[00:25:40] go to the couch
[00:25:41] or you go in the bedroom
[00:25:42] and you eat your meal
[00:25:43] and you know
[00:25:44] that's okay sometimes
[00:25:45] I do that sometimes
[00:25:46] but
[00:25:47] it's
[00:25:48] in a sense
[00:25:49] it's discouraging
[00:25:51] it's discouraging
[00:25:52] to entertaining
[00:25:53] bringing people in
[00:25:55] eating with someone
[00:25:55] if you live alone
[00:25:56] and so
[00:25:58] that was what
[00:25:59] you know
[00:25:59] I was kind of lamenting
[00:26:01] in this commentary
[00:26:02] and
[00:26:02] I know that
[00:26:04] sometimes it takes
[00:26:05] a little bit of
[00:26:07] jumping out of
[00:26:08] your comfort zone
[00:26:09] to invite someone
[00:26:09] in for a meal
[00:26:11] first of all
[00:26:12] there's so many places
[00:26:12] that you can have
[00:26:13] food delivered
[00:26:14] or you can go get it
[00:26:15] and you don't even
[00:26:15] have to cook
[00:26:16] if you're not a good cook
[00:26:18] but I was just
[00:26:18] kind of encouraging
[00:26:19] people
[00:26:21] if you don't have
[00:26:21] a dining room table
[00:26:23] then use your
[00:26:24] kitchen table
[00:26:24] if you don't have
[00:26:25] either kind of a table
[00:26:26] then use your
[00:26:27] coffee table
[00:26:28] or your end table
[00:26:29] and invite a person
[00:26:31] in
[00:26:39] you've known me
[00:26:39] long enough
[00:26:39] I've thrown a
[00:26:41] tablecloth over
[00:26:41] electrical spools
[00:26:43] to give another
[00:26:44] place to eat
[00:26:45] or another place
[00:26:46] to gather
[00:26:47] and so
[00:26:48] just to get into
[00:26:49] that mindset
[00:26:50] I think
[00:26:50] because there are
[00:26:51] so many forces
[00:26:52] in the culture
[00:26:53] right now
[00:26:53] that are increasing
[00:26:55] our isolation
[00:26:57] and our loneliness
[00:26:58] well I wanted to
[00:26:59] get to that
[00:26:59] for just a minute
[00:27:00] because one of the
[00:27:00] things that we
[00:27:01] like to talk about
[00:27:02] on Point of View
[00:27:03] are the cultural
[00:27:04] issues
[00:27:04] and the family
[00:27:05] issues
[00:27:06] and of course
[00:27:07] one of the booklets
[00:27:08] that I put out
[00:27:08] a while back
[00:27:09] was on loneliness
[00:27:10] and that goes
[00:27:11] all the way back
[00:27:12] to a man by the
[00:27:12] name of Robert Putnam
[00:27:14] he wrote a book
[00:27:14] called Bowling Alone
[00:27:16] and the Collapse
[00:27:17] and Revival
[00:27:18] of American Community
[00:27:20] and we've lost
[00:27:21] this idea of community
[00:27:23] and this is one
[00:27:23] of the things
[00:27:24] you're talking about
[00:27:24] here
[00:27:25] the need for us
[00:27:25] to once again
[00:27:27] recognize that
[00:27:28] if we're Christians
[00:27:29] we should be willing
[00:27:30] to reach out
[00:27:30] to individuals
[00:27:31] and we certainly
[00:27:33] have lost that
[00:27:34] and there is
[00:27:35] I think
[00:27:35] a need for us
[00:27:36] as believers
[00:27:38] to engage
[00:27:39] in hospitality
[00:27:41] I've known your
[00:27:41] mother for a while
[00:27:42] when she was alive
[00:27:43] and what a gracious
[00:27:44] hospitable individual
[00:27:45] she was
[00:27:46] my mother was
[00:27:47] that way as well
[00:27:48] and we have lost
[00:27:50] that I think
[00:27:50] for a whole generation
[00:27:51] and part of it
[00:27:53] has to do with
[00:27:54] just even the way
[00:27:55] architecturally
[00:27:55] we put these homes
[00:27:56] together
[00:27:57] there's almost
[00:27:58] no need for a
[00:27:59] dining room
[00:28:00] because we're not
[00:28:00] formal anymore
[00:28:01] and as a result
[00:28:02] we sort of
[00:28:03] buy into this
[00:28:04] idea that we're
[00:28:05] living alone
[00:28:06] and so whether
[00:28:06] it's Robert
[00:28:08] Putnam
[00:28:08] more recently
[00:28:09] you had
[00:28:10] Senator Ben
[00:28:10] Sasse wrote
[00:28:11] a book called
[00:28:11] They
[00:28:12] in which the fact
[00:28:13] that we aren't
[00:28:14] reaching out
[00:28:14] to them
[00:28:15] because we're
[00:28:16] kind of
[00:28:16] in our own
[00:28:16] little silos
[00:28:18] and we're
[00:28:18] sort of isolated
[00:28:19] I thought this
[00:28:20] was maybe
[00:28:21] starting with
[00:28:22] a conversation
[00:28:23] about dining
[00:28:23] rooms
[00:28:24] but it ended
[00:28:24] with a real
[00:28:25] admonition for
[00:28:26] people to engage
[00:28:27] in hospitality
[00:28:28] Yes
[00:28:28] and there's
[00:28:29] a report
[00:28:30] that came
[00:28:30] out recently
[00:28:31] from the
[00:28:31] Surgeon General's
[00:28:32] office
[00:28:33] and it
[00:28:35] found that
[00:28:36] social isolation
[00:28:37] increased by
[00:28:38] about 24
[00:28:40] hours per
[00:28:40] month
[00:28:41] I don't know
[00:28:42] I didn't
[00:28:44] write down
[00:28:45] the period
[00:28:45] that was
[00:28:46] studied
[00:28:46] but social
[00:28:47] engagement
[00:28:48] with friends
[00:28:48] has dropped
[00:28:50] I think this
[00:28:50] is under the
[00:28:51] Biden administration
[00:28:52] during those
[00:28:52] years
[00:28:53] this is the
[00:28:53] Surgeon General
[00:28:54] in the
[00:28:54] Biden
[00:28:54] administration
[00:28:55] that authorized
[00:28:57] this report
[00:28:57] but he says
[00:28:58] social engagement
[00:28:59] with friends
[00:29:00] dropped 20
[00:29:00] hours per
[00:29:01] month
[00:29:01] that's a lot
[00:29:02] a companionship
[00:29:04] dropped by
[00:29:05] about 14
[00:29:06] hours per
[00:29:06] month
[00:29:06] so that means
[00:29:07] people are
[00:29:07] alone
[00:29:08] not with
[00:29:08] a companion
[00:29:09] and if you
[00:29:10] live alone
[00:29:10] you are
[00:29:10] alone a
[00:29:11] lot
[00:29:12] some people
[00:29:13] are very happy
[00:29:14] being alone
[00:29:15] it's not to
[00:29:16] say that you're
[00:29:16] not happy
[00:29:17] that you're
[00:29:18] alone
[00:29:18] but I
[00:29:20] think
[00:29:20] after a
[00:29:21] while
[00:29:21] everybody
[00:29:22] needs
[00:29:24] interaction
[00:29:25] with other
[00:29:25] people
[00:29:26] and so
[00:29:27] it's important
[00:29:27] to try
[00:29:28] to push
[00:29:28] yourself
[00:29:29] out of
[00:29:29] maybe a
[00:29:30] fear of
[00:29:30] doing that
[00:29:31] but there's
[00:29:33] another man
[00:29:34] named Ryan
[00:29:35] Burge
[00:29:35] and he publishes
[00:29:36] these charts
[00:29:37] and these studies
[00:29:38] about different
[00:29:39] religious phenomenon
[00:29:40] and he says
[00:29:42] as income
[00:29:43] increases
[00:29:43] if you have a
[00:29:45] higher income
[00:29:46] you're less
[00:29:47] likely to
[00:29:48] feel lonely
[00:29:49] because
[00:29:50] well he says
[00:29:50] the likelihood
[00:29:51] of feeling
[00:29:51] never or only
[00:29:53] lonely
[00:29:54] goes up
[00:29:54] dramatically
[00:29:55] as your income
[00:29:57] goes up
[00:29:57] people at the
[00:29:58] bottom end
[00:29:58] of the
[00:29:58] socioeconomic
[00:29:59] spectrum
[00:30:00] seem to be
[00:30:02] falling through
[00:30:02] the cracks
[00:30:03] of civilized
[00:30:04] society
[00:30:04] so to me
[00:30:06] that says
[00:30:07] okay
[00:30:07] if you're going
[00:30:08] to increase
[00:30:09] your own
[00:30:09] hospitality
[00:30:10] think of
[00:30:10] some of
[00:30:11] the people
[00:30:11] that are
[00:30:11] maybe
[00:30:11] falling
[00:30:12] through
[00:30:12] the cracks
[00:30:14] and you
[00:30:15] know
[00:30:15] maybe
[00:30:15] include
[00:30:16] them
[00:30:16] or reach
[00:30:17] out to
[00:30:17] them
[00:30:17] or encourage
[00:30:18] them
[00:30:18] in the
[00:30:19] area
[00:30:19] of
[00:30:21] hospitality
[00:30:21] entertaining
[00:30:22] you know
[00:30:22] hospitality
[00:30:23] is a
[00:30:23] biblical
[00:30:24] concept
[00:30:24] and it
[00:30:25] doesn't
[00:30:26] mean
[00:30:26] it has
[00:30:26] to be
[00:30:26] fancy
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[00:30:41] feel
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[00:30:43] once
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[00:30:43] while
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[00:30:44] these
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[00:30:45] issues
[00:30:45] beyond
[00:30:46] the
[00:30:46] political
[00:30:47] area
[00:30:47] often times
[00:30:48] we say
[00:30:49] politics
[00:30:49] is
[00:30:49] downstream
[00:30:50] from
[00:30:50] culture
[00:30:50] and
[00:30:51] certainly
[00:30:51] we want
[00:30:52] to look
[00:30:52] at these
[00:30:52] cultural
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[00:30:53] as well
[00:30:54] and I
[00:30:54] thought
[00:30:54] that was
[00:30:54] a good
[00:30:54] one
[00:30:55] my one
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[00:30:57] to do
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[00:30:57] plan
[00:30:58] red
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[00:30:58] already
[00:30:58] sort
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[00:30:58] mentioned
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[00:30:59] but
[00:31:00] it's
[00:31:00] another
[00:31:00] one
[00:31:01] of
[00:31:01] those
[00:31:01] challenges
[00:31:02] that
[00:31:03] this
[00:31:03] incoming
[00:31:03] administration
[00:31:04] is
[00:31:04] going to
[00:31:05] have
[00:31:05] to deal
[00:31:05] with
[00:31:05] gordon
[00:31:06] chang
[00:31:06] has
[00:31:07] been
[00:31:07] sitting
[00:31:07] in
[00:31:07] that
[00:31:07] chair
[00:31:08] before
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[00:31:08] been
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[00:31:09] us
[00:31:09] by
[00:31:09] phone
[00:31:09] and
[00:31:10] he
[00:31:10] wrote
[00:31:10] the
[00:31:10] book
[00:31:11] plan
[00:31:11] red
[00:31:11] china's
[00:31:12] project
[00:31:12] to
[00:31:13] destroy
[00:31:13] america
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[00:31:15] as
[00:31:15] you
[00:31:15] read
[00:31:16] even
[00:31:16] my
[00:31:16] commentary
[00:31:17] you
[00:31:17] were
[00:31:17] saying
[00:31:17] this
[00:31:18] pretty
[00:31:18] sobering
[00:31:19] stuff
[00:31:19] especially
[00:31:20] when
[00:31:20] you
[00:31:20] have
[00:31:20] one
[00:31:21] of
[00:31:21] the
[00:31:21] chapters
[00:31:21] which
[00:31:22] has
[00:31:22] the
[00:31:22] title
[00:31:23] killing
[00:31:23] americans
[00:31:24] how
[00:31:25] china
[00:31:25] has
[00:31:25] been
[00:31:25] able
[00:31:26] to
[00:31:26] penetrate
[00:31:26] american
[00:31:27] society
[00:31:28] and
[00:31:28] how
[00:31:29] the
[00:31:29] communist
[00:31:29] party
[00:31:29] has
[00:31:29] been
[00:31:30] able
[00:31:30] to
[00:31:30] sometimes
[00:31:30] kill
[00:31:31] americans
[00:31:31] with
[00:31:31] impunity
[00:31:32] of
[00:31:32] course
[00:31:32] we
[00:31:33] talk
[00:31:33] about
[00:31:33] the
[00:31:33] virus
[00:31:34] we
[00:31:34] talk
[00:31:34] about
[00:31:34] the
[00:31:35] all
[00:31:36] sorts
[00:31:36] of
[00:31:37] other
[00:31:37] issues
[00:31:38] that
[00:31:38] have
[00:31:38] violated
[00:31:39] our
[00:31:39] airspace
[00:31:40] whether
[00:31:40] it's
[00:31:40] those
[00:31:41] drones
[00:31:41] or
[00:31:41] not
[00:31:41] it
[00:31:42] certainly
[00:31:42] was
[00:31:43] the
[00:31:43] spy
[00:31:43] balloon
[00:31:44] and
[00:31:45] we've
[00:31:45] got
[00:31:45] of
[00:31:45] course
[00:31:46] a
[00:31:46] march
[00:31:46] issue
[00:31:47] coming
[00:31:47] out
[00:31:47] on
[00:31:48] china
[00:31:48] and
[00:31:48] that
[00:31:49] is
[00:31:49] one
[00:31:49] of
[00:31:49] those
[00:31:50] dangers
[00:31:51] that
[00:31:51] this
[00:31:52] administration
[00:31:52] is
[00:31:53] really
[00:32:01] yeah
[00:32:02] they
[00:32:03] wanted
[00:32:03] to
[00:32:03] do
[00:32:04] everything
[00:32:04] they
[00:32:04] possibly
[00:32:05] could
[00:32:05] to
[00:32:05] divert
[00:32:06] our
[00:32:06] attention
[00:32:07] from
[00:32:07] that
[00:32:07] and
[00:32:08] you
[00:32:09] know
[00:32:09] as
[00:32:09] we
[00:32:09] talked
[00:32:09] about
[00:32:10] in
[00:32:10] the
[00:32:10] very
[00:32:10] first
[00:32:10] segment
[00:32:11] of
[00:32:11] the
[00:32:11] second
[00:32:11] segment
[00:32:12] of
[00:32:12] the
[00:32:12] program
[00:32:12] today
[00:32:13] there
[00:32:13] are
[00:32:13] now
[00:32:13] pictures
[00:32:14] coming
[00:32:14] out
[00:32:14] of
[00:32:14] the
[00:32:14] national
[00:32:15] archives
[00:32:15] that
[00:32:15] show
[00:32:16] Joe
[00:32:16] Biden
[00:32:17] with
[00:32:18] Hunter's
[00:32:18] business
[00:32:18] partner
[00:32:19] business
[00:32:19] associates
[00:32:21] so
[00:32:22] the
[00:32:22] fact
[00:32:23] that
[00:32:23] Joe
[00:32:24] Biden
[00:32:24] said
[00:32:24] he
[00:32:24] knew
[00:32:25] nothing
[00:32:25] about
[00:32:25] Hunter's
[00:32:26] business
[00:32:26] and
[00:32:26] didn't
[00:32:26] know
[00:32:27] where
[00:32:28] that
[00:32:37] China
[00:32:39] is a
[00:32:40] threat
[00:32:40] there
[00:32:40] are
[00:32:40] so
[00:32:40] many
[00:32:41] ways
[00:32:41] in
[00:32:41] which
[00:32:41] China
[00:32:41] is
[00:32:42] a
[00:32:42] threat
[00:32:42] but
[00:32:43] reading
[00:32:43] it
[00:32:43] in
[00:32:43] Gordon
[00:32:44] Chang's
[00:32:45] book
[00:32:46] and
[00:32:46] seeing
[00:32:47] your
[00:32:47] commentary
[00:32:47] about
[00:32:48] it
[00:32:48] today
[00:32:48] kind
[00:32:49] of
[00:32:49] jolted
[00:32:50] me
[00:32:50] a bit
[00:32:50] and
[00:32:51] I
[00:32:51] realized
[00:32:52] that
[00:32:52] that's
[00:32:53] an
[00:32:53] area
[00:32:53] that
[00:32:53] our
[00:32:54] government
[00:32:54] is
[00:32:54] going
[00:33:00] to
[00:33:00] support
[00:33:01] point
[00:33:01] of
[00:33:01] view
[00:33:02] how
[00:33:02] much
[00:33:02] have
[00:33:02] you
[00:33:03] heard
[00:33:03] about
[00:33:03] China
[00:33:03] in
[00:33:04] other
[00:33:04] venues
[00:33:05] NBA
[00:33:05] is
[00:33:05] not
[00:33:06] going
[00:33:06] to
[00:33:06] talk
[00:33:06] about
[00:33:06] it
[00:33:06] because
[00:33:07] their
[00:33:07] most
[00:33:08] significant
[00:33:08] market
[00:33:09] is
[00:33:09] in
[00:33:09] China
[00:33:09] a lot
[00:33:10] of
[00:33:10] businesses
[00:33:11] aren't
[00:33:11] going
[00:33:11] to
[00:33:11] talk
[00:33:11] about
[00:33:12] it
[00:33:31] point
[00:33:32] of
[00:33:32] view
[00:33:32] dot
[00:33:33] net
[00:33:33] we'll
[00:33:33] come
[00:33:33] back
[00:33:34] with
[00:33:34] some
[00:33:34] final
[00:33:34] comments
[00:33:35] all
[00:33:36] that
[00:33:36] coming
[00:33:36] up
[00:33:36] right
[00:33:36] after
[00:33:37] this
[00:33:56] you're
[00:33:56] listening
[00:33:56] to
[00:33:57] point
[00:33:57] of
[00:33:58] view
[00:33:58] your
[00:33:59] listener
[00:33:59] supported
[00:34:00] source
[00:34:00] for
[00:34:01] truth
[00:34:01] back
[00:34:01] for a few
[00:34:02] more minutes
[00:34:02] you might want to give us a call
[00:34:03] 800-347-5151
[00:34:05] then I thought we'd mention just for a minute here this piece by American
[00:34:09] Spectator because it's a reminder of how controversial things used to be
[00:34:13] it says when the electoral college met on December 17th and confirmed Donald Trump's victory over Kamala Harris most commentators concluded that the congressional certification of the results would be a mere formality as political said Trump's victory has made January 6th boring again but there will be probably a few people that will fuss about that and I did a commentary which will come out on Monday to remind us
[00:34:37] that well if you go back eight years ago you recognize that at that particular time there were people actually suggesting that those electors should have voted for Hillary Clinton rather than Donald Trump remember that you had various Democratic leaders and people in the media and there was a protest about that and even in that election you had what was called faithless electors you had 10 individuals who either voted for or attempted to vote for a candidate other
[00:35:07] other than one for whom they were pledged three were dismissed because of the states having a faithless elector law but the other seven did vote for other people I don't think we're going to see anything quite like that but again you talked about the need for us to pray and I don't anticipate a lot of disruption I do anticipate some really inappropriate comments being made probably a little bit on Friday when they vote for Speaker of the House and certainly
[00:35:37] certainly on Monday when they then finally ratify the electoral college so I posted this one just so that it could remind you of some of the turmoil we've been through over these last eight years simply because nobody expected Donald Trump to be elected in 2016 not sure they were expecting him to be elected in 2024 but here we go with a new president in 2025
[00:36:05] I did not expect what happened on January 6th to happen at all and I think a lot of people did not expect that they really they thought there would be you know a mass of people and protests but not riots right and so when when some people entered the Capitol when there was damage done and all of that and you know I think now people are just there's a little jitteriness
[00:36:31] Kelly Kelly Kelly made a really good case for why it's going to go as well it's going to go better I mean the electoral count act was one thing right that was shored up after 2022 and after January 6th and all that it's now going to be less possible to do what Donald Trump wanted my pants to do right it's less possible now because they passed a law in Congress to make it so it's called the electoral
[00:37:00] it's a it's got the word reform in it so it's a reform yes so that's that's true but also you know the whole idea we talked about a little bit earlier today the idea of insurrection
[00:37:12] Trump was never accused of insurrection no one ever really accused him for that form formally he's certainly never been convicted of it and so when people try to bring that back
[00:37:22] now I don't think they have much cachet to be able to do it even not as much as four years ago again if you want to read this on the third page it does talk about the electoral count
[00:37:32] reform act of 2022 and gives you a little bit of a background so if you've been thinking I wonder what's going to happen this January 6th we again give you some information that you probably can get nowhere else but we will
[00:37:44] fortunately have both penedecture and kelly shackleford here on friday so we'll see how we go in terms of the vote and I'm hoping that that will be somewhat perfunctory too for the election of Mike Johnson so we'll see how that goes but I thought just for a minute we'd get an update on how we're doing and so we brought Warren Kelly president point of view back into the studio
[00:38:06] we've seen a number of gifts that have come in during the show today and we're very grateful for those but we are still moving kind of slow we've got that $20,000 match on the
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[00:38:31] you know it's kind of good right now to think about the things that we're hoping for next year
[00:38:35] yes and uh there's there's one thing I think that I'm really hoping for and that is for families um I hope that more people get married have children but I hope that the parents who do have children and love their children are given maybe tools or helps to fight against some of the incursions into their freedoms that happen and one of the first concerns I think was a big concern of voters in the in the elections and one of my big concerns is the whole transgender agenda
[00:39:05] uh and the idea that children um aren't being protected from authorities that think it's great to you know change their their gender or mutilate their bodies that's such an outlandish idea that we started to kind of dribble into the mainstream I hope that we just I hope that along with DEI we just nip them in the bud
[00:39:27] well again we see a lot of pushes in the right direction you know backlash and pushback on those kinds of things so I hope that we can be part of the reason for that
[00:39:38] and again that gets us into the fact that sometimes Pena we have people that come up to us and say I know this is wrong but I don't know how to make the case
[00:39:47] and uh transgenderism is a good example of a new issue kind of like the issue when first we heard legalized abortion people said I know I'm against abortion but I don't know how to make the case for life
[00:40:01] this is one of the things I really want us to be able to help and equip you to do so that in your sphere of influence you can really have an influence in that regard
[00:40:10] that's true because most media does a lot to convince you that you don't really have the right to say things that follow along with your religious beliefs
[00:40:20] because that sort of delegitimizes you and here at point of view we're quite the opposite from that in fact we can bolster most of our positions on things
[00:40:29] with either the word of God or uh the wisdom of God that we know to be true
[00:40:35] Warren you know that lots of times I say that we not only want to help you know how to articulate a biblical worldview
[00:40:40] but how to defend a biblical worldview and I think that's another reason why you're encouraging people to support point of view
[00:40:45] it is and that's something that you know I mentioned before that Kirby puts a tremendous number of resources
[00:40:51] new resources on their website every day we have the booklets the magazines all those things but
[00:40:57] just the content of the program there's so much content that we provide for you and it's a great way for you to be able to articulate your
[00:41:06] views on a biblical perspective on things that are happening in the culture but also to be able to back that up with facts and figures and things that you need
[00:41:15] for those that maybe they're not going to accept a biblical perspective but they will accept
[00:41:19] the other news sources that you're going to be able to gather from the website
[00:41:24] and again you just sent out an email actually it was something that included a comment from an individual from South Africa of all places
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[00:41:44] you have no idea all the booklets that aren't on the website and all the other resources and outlook materials that are there as well
[00:41:52] but even in South Africa you're saying this is what I've been looking for so that I can make the case
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[00:42:27] Penn and let me say happy new year to you and Warren
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